Thank you for the amazing video doc! Also Dr. Ben Thompson, I see that you completed your training at UCSF Medical Center, one of the best medical programs in the state of California,. My question for you is, during your training and years of practice did you ever come across other health professionals (PA, NP, MD, PT, OT, etc.) who completed their training with tinnitus or who are currently practicing? I want to pursue a career in the health professionals but with my tinnitus I have so many doubts. If you could share any success stories about professionals with tinnitus that would be very much appreciated. Thank you for all of your hard work.
You're very welcome! I'm delighted to hear that you found the update on Susan Shore's device informative. Your continued interest and support mean a lot to us, and we're committed to keeping you informed about the latest developments in tinnitus treatment.
It gets better.... the human brain, if used correctly, will make the tinnitus bearable even completely unnoticeable... it's probably not going to go away... but one day you will realize you've stopped noticing it. Stop looking for cures that's the first step.
My question is: Why doesn’t insurance cover this procedure if it is so life changing? Or here’s another one: Why is it priced so high that the people that really need it can’t afford it because insurance doesn’t cover it? I hear the same story with all the things senior citizens need: Eyeglasses, hearing aids, dentures, pain relief for arthritis, Medicare ‘scams’, etc…..why?
It is very unfortunate that insurance doesn't cover tinnitus therapy. It is our job as Audiologists to lobby and explain why this should be a covered medical expense. We have different pricing options depending on what is needed. We would love to tell you more about our process - please use the following link to schedule a complimentary telehealth consultation with an audiologist on our team. During this call, they can answer any questions that you may have! treble.health/consultation
If it works, I don't care how much it costs. They can have whatever they want. I'm 15 years in with intense T and I'll do whatever it takes to get the problem solved.
My case is precisely as you describe for somatic tinnitus. When I twist my head, slide it forward or open my mouth wide the intensity climbs a few notches. Hopefully Dr. Shore's device works and gets a thoroughly yet speedy approval. Let's keep positive, folks!
I’m seeing an audiologist that is founded under a neurosurgeon. My primary Dr has no answers. I have hearing loss from working 30 years in dentistry. I will be receiving hearing aides that are to reduce the symptoms of tinnitus. Basically it is the brain not receiving the stimulation it needs from your hearing. So it letting you know something has changed. The idea is that the audiology specialist is critically important in choosing the right hearing device for each individual and make the proper adjustments. It has to be customized. Hearing loss leads to cognitive decline… so it’s important to treat/control your hearing loss.
Hello! i have mild hearing loss in both ears.. in the low and middle frequencies. In the highs, from 10KHz to 16KHz, there is a gradual drop of db, which reaches 16KHz up to -50db.. In the remaining frequencies (low + mid), I have a loss of 10-15db at most. Not something important that is for the 18 years professional musician. Do you think I could reduce the sound of the tinnitus if I wear hearing aids? I am sure that the tinnitus in my left ear is due to exposure to high voltages. I have had tinnitus for almost 7 months and I notice that as I continue to work at live music nights, it only increases! Every 1-2 months, it goes up 1 level for sure and stays there. I am now thinking of quitting this job that I love so much. Could you give me some tips so that I can be a little calmer with this situation? What helps and what doesn't? I hope you are always well!
@@chrisk6488Do you already use musician ear plugs? I also used to do music but I stopped all alcohol and any other substances and also didn't think about getting close to my DAWs. I use an app that reduces certain frequencies from my sound monitors, phone, etc
I tried to be a participant in this study, but lived about 50 miles too far away, which prohibited me from being included completely based on their study limitations as outlined by the university.
Two things. In the last few weeks I've developed 2 new tinnitus noises. I now have multiple noies coming out of each ear. Also, when I YAWN I get a major increase in volume in my left ear tinnitus. Down this yawning effect mean that I would be a good candidate for this treatment? Thanks
Hi! This device is still in the research phase and awaiting FDA approval. Once it is approved, there will be more clarity on who would be benefit. It sounds like you have somatic tinnitus. We recommend following up with a TMJ specialist as it sounds like your tinnitus may be stemming from your jaw. treblehealth.com/somatic-tinnitus/
So is it effective for damage caused by exposure to acoustic loud & prolonged noise which creates high frequency hearing damage & tinnitus sounds & for hyperacusis?
@@IfIcouldmeltyourheart Somatic tinnitus just means that you can modulate (increase or decrease) your tinnitus by doing things such as moving your jaw, moving your neck or pressing on different parts of your face. Most (or possibly all) types of subjective tinnitus can be somatic and this includes noise-induced tinnitus. In the clinical trials, they used people that can modulate their tinnitus because it shows a clear connection between the somatosensory and auditory systems, but that connection exists for everyone, even for those that do not have tinnitus. The connection is just sometimes stronger in those with tinnitus.
When my tinnitus was new after exposure to loud sound, it would spike briefly in loudness everytime i swallow. But it has improved since then and i can no longer hear a difference in volume with head movements. Is this somatic tinnitus?
This device is not available to the public as it is not FDA approved, yet. Once it is approved, you'll see much more information available from patients themselves.
Yes! With a combination of sound therapy and personalized coaching, you can reduce the negative reactions and emotions caused by the troublesome sounds. This can be achieved in two ways: 1. A person can be slowly desensitized to the bothersome sounds by slowly reintroducing the trigger sounds into their daily life. 2. A person can be given strategies to restructure the negative thoughts and emotions that are triggered by troublesome sounds. Other treatment options include CBT, TRT and mindfulness practices. Check out this article for more information treblehealth.com/hyperacusis-misophonia/
@@mikedeliso7795 i problemi di questi dispositivi è che si ha difficoltà di trovare chi vuole investire per la produzione di massa in quanto in ambito medico come tutti noi sappiamo sull acufene la risposta è non ci si può fare niente
Io ho un bilaterale da 4 mesi. Sto facendo (da solo) noise therapy usando le cuffie da corsa della shokz che lasciano libero il canale auricolare..e mi sento molto meglio. Come suono preferisco purple noise con frequenze piú alte. Ho passato momenti brutti ma ora sto riprendendo la vita in mano completamente. Molto sta a noi. Forza.
Dr Ben can tinnitus patient use headphones or not it will make tinnitus worst or it will dont affect the tinnitus i am suffering from tinnitus can i use headphones or not using headphones will make tinnitus loude or not please reply
Thank you very much Dr. Ben for that excellent class, could this device help me if my tinnitus is due to listening for a long time with headphones? I don't have hearing loss but there is a small drop in some frequencies, etc. Kind regards.
@@awoodennail5328 It must be because they are obviously competition, there is always rivalry or medical jealousy. but each one of them worked in their own way. Kind regards.
Will it help if your tinnitus is from TMJD? I have LOUD tinnitus in left ear from TMJD. I have age related hearing loss and wear hearing aids but still have extremely loud tinnitus
hey, i m from India. I have tinnitus and hearing problem since 5 years. I used Widex hearing aids three years ago but I did not get any benefit from them. I hear normal sound but have problem in hearing communication. please suggest me what to do? please please
Follow up with your Audiologist to retest your hearing and make sure the hearing aids are functional properly. Auditory training programs, like Angel Sound, can also help teach your brain how to discriminate speech. angelsound.tigerspeech.com/
Why would the Susan Shore Oracle device be any more effective than the Lenire device which works on the same principle? For many the Lenire does nothing. Further, some who have tried the Lenire device, their tinnitus has grown worse.
jeeze i cancelled my appointment due to this reason. when i read that theres a possibilty that my t can get louder i was like wait a minute, Should i pay 4300 in NYC to test that out? NOPE.
The linear device, shocks your brain and hopes that you can get used to the sound or ignore it. Dr. shore found out that a combination of precisely timed electrical, stimulus and auditory stimulus directed at the first step of the auditory pathway (dorsal cochlear nucleus) resets these neurons to a more homeostatic potential. It calms them down, thus lowering the volume. It’s totally different scientific approach
We are still waiting for the final results to be released. You can find one of the latest Q&A's with Dr. Susan Shore here: www.tinnitushub.com/dr-susan-shore-auricle-questions-answers/
The treatment was specifically studied in individuals with somatic tinnitus, so its effectiveness for people with mild hearing loss and strong tinnitus due to affected inner ear remains uncertain. More research may be needed to determine its potential benefits for this particular group.
I’m so sorry to hear about your experience with tinnitus from fighter jets. Actually, noise-induced tinnitus can often be managed. We're here to help. Use this link to book a complimentary telehealth consultation with one of our tinnitus experts: treble.health/consultation
The Dr. Susan Shore Device or Michigan Tinnitus Device uses bimodal stimulation where mild electrical pulses are sent to the cheek and neck. You can only obtain this device with a healthcare professional. It is not sold over the counter. Visit your local audiologist for more information!
It can be really frustrating dealing with insurance. If you have any questions or need assistance exploring your options, we're here to help. Feel free to reach out!
Probably a simple rechargeable unit with jacks for ear buds and vibrating disks that will cost you thousands and make someone millions and has all kinds of attached disclaimers. In the end a placebo effect at best, hope I’m wrong and it’s the breakthrough we’ve been waiting for?
@@lukewalker1051You need to do way more research before proclaiming stuff like that. The Shore device is backed by 20 years of research, multiple peer reviewed research papers. The science behind it is logical. The Lenire device plays random noise.
It's been tested against placebo groups while lenire wasn't. Lenire was always a quick dirty scam while this has been in development for like 10 years.
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I hope the "Oracle device|" will be available in the UK.
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Any chance you can start working with people in the UK?.
Thank you for the amazing video doc!
Also Dr. Ben Thompson, I see that you completed your training at UCSF Medical Center, one of the best medical programs in the state of California,. My question for you is, during your training and years of practice did you ever come across other health professionals (PA, NP, MD, PT, OT, etc.) who completed their training with tinnitus or who are currently practicing? I want to pursue a career in the health professionals but with my tinnitus I have so many doubts. If you could share any success stories about professionals with tinnitus that would be very much appreciated. Thank you for all of your hard work.
Ben, this video is much better than the ones in the past about the device. Thank you.
Thank you for your feedback! I'm glad to hear that you found this video to be an improvement over previous ones.
Thanks so much, Ben, for this update on Susan Shore's device! I've been following this project for some time now, and really appreciate your info!
You're very welcome! I'm delighted to hear that you found the update on Susan Shore's device informative. Your continued interest and support mean a lot to us, and we're committed to keeping you informed about the latest developments in tinnitus treatment.
It gets better.... the human brain, if used correctly, will make the tinnitus bearable even completely unnoticeable... it's probably not going to go away... but one day you will realize you've stopped noticing it.
Stop looking for cures that's the first step.
My question is: Why doesn’t insurance cover this procedure if it is so life changing?
Or here’s another one:
Why is it priced so high that the people that really need it can’t afford it because insurance doesn’t cover it?
I hear the same story with all the things senior citizens need:
Eyeglasses, hearing aids, dentures, pain relief for arthritis, Medicare ‘scams’, etc…..why?
It is very unfortunate that insurance doesn't cover tinnitus therapy. It is our job as Audiologists to lobby and explain why this should be a covered medical expense. We have different pricing options depending on what is needed. We would love to tell you more about our process - please use the following link to schedule a complimentary telehealth consultation with an audiologist on our team. During this call, they can answer any questions that you may have! treble.health/consultation
If it works, I don't care how much it costs. They can have whatever they want. I'm 15 years in with intense T and I'll do whatever it takes to get the problem solved.
I HOPE IT WILL WORK!
Tests against placebo groups show it did.
Dr. Ben - please don't cut your hair, until the FDA approves the Michigan tinnitus device! YOU GOT THIS!!!
😂 love this
My case is precisely as you describe for somatic tinnitus. When I twist my head, slide it forward or open my mouth wide the intensity climbs a few notches.
Hopefully Dr. Shore's device works and gets a thoroughly yet speedy approval. Let's keep positive, folks!
I’m seeing an audiologist that is founded under a neurosurgeon. My primary Dr has no answers. I have hearing loss from working 30 years in dentistry. I will be receiving hearing aides that are to reduce the symptoms of tinnitus. Basically it is the brain not receiving the stimulation it needs from your hearing. So it letting you know something has changed. The idea is that the audiology specialist is critically important in choosing the right hearing device for each individual and make the proper adjustments. It has to be customized. Hearing loss leads to cognitive decline… so it’s important to treat/control your hearing loss.
I have the same problem. I was exposed to gas turbine and jet engine noise and also rifle blast. Hearing aids will cost you over 4 thousand dollars.
Hello! i have mild hearing loss in both ears.. in the low and middle frequencies. In the highs, from 10KHz to 16KHz, there is a gradual drop of db, which reaches 16KHz up to -50db.. In the remaining frequencies (low + mid), I have a loss of 10-15db at most. Not something important that is for the 18 years professional musician. Do you think I could reduce the sound of the tinnitus if I wear hearing aids? I am sure that the tinnitus in my left ear is due to exposure to high voltages. I have had tinnitus for almost 7 months and I notice that as I continue to work at live music nights, it only increases! Every 1-2 months, it goes up 1 level for sure and stays there. I am now thinking of quitting this job that I love so much. Could you give me some tips so that I can be a little calmer with this situation? What helps and what doesn't? I hope you are always well!
@@chrisk6488Do you already use musician ear plugs? I also used to do music but I stopped all alcohol and any other substances and also didn't think about getting close to my DAWs. I use an app that reduces certain frequencies from my sound monitors, phone, etc
Wait for Susan shore device
It’s the only way
whats that can you give me information? is it coming out? i need more information
@@mixraidenarchive It's literally what the video is about... did you not watch it or something?
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I tried to be a participant in this study, but lived about 50 miles too far away, which prohibited me from being included completely based on their study limitations as outlined by the university.
Two things. In the last few weeks I've developed 2 new tinnitus noises. I now have multiple noies coming out of each ear. Also, when I YAWN I get a major increase in volume in my left ear tinnitus. Down this yawning effect mean that I would be a good candidate for this treatment? Thanks
Hi! This device is still in the research phase and awaiting FDA approval. Once it is approved, there will be more clarity on who would be benefit. It sounds like you have somatic tinnitus. We recommend following up with a TMJ specialist as it sounds like your tinnitus may be stemming from your jaw. treblehealth.com/somatic-tinnitus/
So is it effective for damage caused by exposure to acoustic loud & prolonged noise which creates high frequency hearing damage & tinnitus sounds & for hyperacusis?
Yes, it was primarily tested on people with noise-induced tinnitus and the research used guinea pigs with noise-induced tinnitus.
@@awoodennail5328 But it says it's for somatic tinnitus, and from what I've heard noise induced T is not somatic? I may be wrong. Are you sure?
@@IfIcouldmeltyourheart Somatic tinnitus just means that you can modulate (increase or decrease) your tinnitus by doing things such as moving your jaw, moving your neck or pressing on different parts of your face. Most (or possibly all) types of subjective tinnitus can be somatic and this includes noise-induced tinnitus. In the clinical trials, they used people that can modulate their tinnitus because it shows a clear connection between the somatosensory and auditory systems, but that connection exists for everyone, even for those that do not have tinnitus. The connection is just sometimes stronger in those with tinnitus.
@@IfIcouldmeltyourheartNoise induced T can definitely be somatic, mine and many others is
When my tinnitus was new after exposure to loud sound, it would spike briefly in loudness everytime i swallow. But it has improved since then and i can no longer hear a difference in volume with head movements. Is this somatic tinnitus?
This is VERY exciting. I can change the volume of my tinnitus by flexing my jaw muscles.
Same here , but idk how and why ?
TMJ
How come there is no videos from people using these devices? All i can find is health professionals. I want to hear from the patient
This device is not available to the public as it is not FDA approved, yet. Once it is approved, you'll see much more information available from patients themselves.
Hey Dr.Ben.i was wondering if the device could be used for pain hyperacusis?thank you for your time🙏
Yes! With a combination of sound therapy and personalized coaching, you can reduce the negative reactions and emotions caused by the troublesome sounds. This can be achieved in two ways: 1. A person can be slowly desensitized to the bothersome sounds by slowly reintroducing the trigger sounds into their daily life. 2. A person can be given strategies to restructure the negative thoughts and emotions that are triggered by troublesome sounds. Other treatment options include CBT, TRT and mindfulness practices. Check out this article for more information treblehealth.com/hyperacusis-misophonia/
@treblehealth oh thank you so much Dr.Ben🙏
Hi i live in Italy Europe, i have a somatic tinnitus since One year, exept mouth guard, fisioterapy and in the end trt, what else can i do?
Ciao amico..
@@tehblizz ciao
Ciao dobbiamo aspettare che arrivi in Italia questo dispositivo.. speriamo bene
@@mikedeliso7795 i problemi di questi dispositivi è che si ha difficoltà di trovare chi vuole investire per la produzione di massa in quanto in ambito medico come tutti noi sappiamo sull acufene la risposta è non ci si può fare niente
Io ho un bilaterale da 4 mesi. Sto facendo (da solo) noise therapy usando le cuffie da corsa della shokz che lasciano libero il canale auricolare..e mi sento molto meglio. Come suono preferisco purple noise con frequenze piú alte. Ho passato momenti brutti ma ora sto riprendendo la vita in mano completamente. Molto sta a noi. Forza.
Dr Ben can tinnitus patient use headphones or not it will make tinnitus worst or it will dont affect the tinnitus i am suffering from tinnitus can i use headphones or not using headphones will make tinnitus loude or not please reply
Thank you very much Dr. Ben for that excellent class, could this device help me if my tinnitus is due to listening for a long time with headphones? I don't have hearing loss but there is a small drop in some frequencies, etc. Kind regards.
What Ben failed to mention is that most of the trial participants had noise-induced tinnitus. So yes, it will most likely work for you.
@@awoodennail5328 thank you so much
@@awoodennail5328 It must be because they are obviously competition, there is always rivalry or medical jealousy. but each one of them worked in their own way. Kind regards.
@@awoodennail5328 They are obviously competition, which must be difficult for Dr. Ben etc. Kind regards. :)
@@awoodennail5328 I don't think it's because he forgot, the problem is that they are competition. Kind regards.
Will it help if your tinnitus is from TMJD? I have LOUD tinnitus in left ear from TMJD. I have age related hearing loss and wear hearing aids but still have extremely loud tinnitus
hey, i m from India. I have tinnitus and hearing problem since 5 years. I used Widex hearing aids three years ago but I did not get any benefit from them. I hear normal sound but have problem in hearing communication. please suggest me what to do? please please
Follow up with your Audiologist to retest your hearing and make sure the hearing aids are functional properly. Auditory training programs, like Angel Sound, can also help teach your brain how to discriminate speech. angelsound.tigerspeech.com/
My dream is visiting India, but I don't know if it will be possible in my life time since I have pain hyperacusis, and in India it's too loud 😭😭😭
Hey I’m in India too and have tinnitus. Did you get the recommendation from a doctor?
@@divyanshuthakur sadly No
Any news about the device?
Dr good day,can you please answer my question please,I wanna know is this also tinnitus,my ears beat like pulse rate.
Its a shame it cant be rented instead of bought.
Why would the Susan Shore Oracle device be any more effective than the Lenire device which works on the same principle? For many the Lenire does nothing. Further, some who have tried the Lenire device, their tinnitus has grown worse.
jeeze i cancelled my appointment due to this reason. when i read that theres a possibilty that my t can get louder i was like wait a minute, Should i pay 4300 in NYC to test that out? NOPE.
The linear device, shocks your brain and hopes that you can get used to the sound or ignore it. Dr. shore found out that a combination of precisely timed electrical, stimulus and auditory stimulus directed at the first step of the auditory pathway (dorsal cochlear nucleus) resets these neurons to a more homeostatic potential. It calms them down, thus lowering the volume. It’s totally different scientific approach
Yeah I almost got snookered by a Park Avenue audiologist with Lenire
@@edfleck7264 its a real shame isnt it
No people have been taking advantage of tinnitus sufferers for 50 years. But Shore’s device will put all the scammers out of business.
Any update on this?
We are still waiting for the final results to be released. You can find one of the latest Q&A's with Dr. Susan Shore here: www.tinnitushub.com/dr-susan-shore-auricle-questions-answers/
Do you know anything about nurosym device?
I'm not familiar with this device. I'd have to do some more research.
I still did not understand. Will it work for the people with mild hearing loss, but strong tinnitus ? Obviously. Affected inner ear.?
The treatment was specifically studied in individuals with somatic tinnitus, so its effectiveness for people with mild hearing loss and strong tinnitus due to affected inner ear remains uncertain. More research may be needed to determine its potential benefits for this particular group.
I have tinnitus, with hearing loss at high frequencies. My hearing is normal. Can Susan's device help me?
One thing for sure is my ears are getting worse since I yell at my mom a lot.
Can bluetooth or wireless earphones effect tinnitus?
As long as you are keeping it at a safe listening level, they should not negatively impact tinnitus.
so another go try and see device. Meanwhile my tinnitus is laughing at me like this EE EEE EE EEE EEEE~~.
No way to get it
Why no stem cell treatments in the US?
It is something that has been researched but not successful in the tinnitus field. Maybe one day..
about $3,000 to over $4,000.
You can't modulate my extremely loud T. It was caused by fighter jets.
I’m so sorry to hear about your experience with tinnitus from fighter jets. Actually, noise-induced tinnitus can often be managed. We're here to help. Use this link to book a complimentary telehealth consultation with one of our tinnitus experts: treble.health/consultation
looking good
Thanks 👍
Hope 😄
How can one get it and how does work?
The Dr. Susan Shore Device or Michigan Tinnitus Device uses bimodal stimulation where mild electrical pulses are sent to the cheek and neck. You can only obtain this device with a healthcare professional. It is not sold over the counter. Visit your local audiologist for more information!
Yo ya lo supere hasta esperar a sus santas ganas de que creen una cura o una alivio es porlas
🙄 Of course insurance wouldn't pay...... Smh seems like insurance doesn't pay for anything
It can be really frustrating dealing with insurance. If you have any questions or need assistance exploring your options, we're here to help. Feel free to reach out!
This guy regurgitates the same stuff day in and day out pretty useless if you ask me
😮
Probably a simple rechargeable unit with jacks for ear buds and vibrating disks that will cost you thousands and make someone millions and has all kinds of attached disclaimers. In the end a placebo effect at best, hope I’m wrong and it’s the breakthrough we’ve been waiting for?
Does someone use Lenire device?
tried it for some weeks. Didn't work for me.
@@georgfriedrichhendl9881 was you trying Lenire device in Germany?
@@georgfriedrichhendl9881 was you trying Lenire device in Germany?
@@georgfriedrichhendl9881 where are you living?
@@georgfriedrichhendl9881 shit... So what works?
Another scam like Lenire
Doesn't sound very hopeful.
Because it isn't. No reason it should be more effective than the Lenire device which has been proven to ineffective.
@@lukewalker1051You need to do way more research before proclaiming stuff like that. The Shore device is backed by 20 years of research, multiple peer reviewed research papers. The science behind it is logical. The Lenire device plays random noise.
It's been tested against placebo groups while lenire wasn't. Lenire was always a quick dirty scam while this has been in development for like 10 years.