WATCH exclusive bonus content where *Michael* answers audience questions. CLICK the link: triggernometry.locals.com/ CHAPTERS 👇 00:00 Intro 01:38 Michael’s Thinking Behind ‘The White Pill’ 05:04 Was Society Not Educated Enough on Communism? 11:52 The West’s Obsession with Comparing Today’s Issues with Past Atrocities 20:45 Our Distrust in Modern Media 23:39 Sponsor Message: Manscaped 25:00 Identifying Today’s Problems & Fighting Against Them 28:43 Why We Mustn’t Be Cynical 37:13 Are People Buying into Systems Too Easily? 40:01 Sponsor Message: EasyDNS 41:05 What’s Wrong with the Education System Today? 43:41 Our Need for Hope and Positive Change 53:57 What’s the One Thing We’re Not Talking About?
I find it very annoying that Michael hasn't done a thought experiment of "what if people stop saying this is like communism" because it's obvious to me that we have to call out what these things are, which is they are akin to things similar to NK. Sure it's not as extreme but the people that do it would go that far if they could. that's the issue. not pointing it out would invite them to do the atrocities in the west.
Noticing that the brakes are giving out is worth telling everyone who is on the train with you. In the US the brakes are giving out. We might not be Soviet Russia but I don't want to keep inching closer until it's too late and we arrived quietly in the night.
I'm ukrainian. My grand grandmother survived holodomor. Her 4 brothers and sisters didn't. She died at the age of 101. With severe dementia. In her last few years she thought she is 12 years old.I remember, she was always hiding food everywhere. Always was asking us for food, even after full lunch. It's like she was scared that food can disappear or someone is going to take it away.
That's so heartbreaking. . . And too few people in the US or UK even KNOW about the holodomor! I'm American and a lot of public schools here don't even mention it. They teach about the horrors of fascism, but they neglect to teach about the horrors of communism.
The pictures from Ukraine during Holodomor are startling. People completely disinterested and just walking by and around corpses because it is so common it does not shock.
@@zxyatiywariii8 Sadly, American schools are staffed by deluded "educators" who believe that socialism/comunism has just never been done properly. They know better and the next time it'll be perfect... as long as they ignore 100 years of historic abject failure and subsequent horror. They hide behind their dogma so that they can be victims of the only cutures that allow their delusions to fester.
cool whats the solution? how do you prove to me the parent that you are actually teaching my kid anything? instead of just doing bare min babysitting...
@@117Ender maybe you should know your kid, and teach them what you find they are missing. A grade on a test is a poor metric for performance, and a grade in the typical public school class is typically more of a sign of obedience and subservience rather than intelligence.
@@117Ender First, the parents start children off by loving reading and books. You do that by reading to them every night when they are very young. Then they learn to read properly. Then basic math, and the ability to do simple math problems in their head. That linked with critical thinking skills, leads to someone who loves learning itself. Which is exactly why the existing "educational" system doesn't do that.
i was rather turned off when i worked at a school and the vicehead said that they are teaching them to/for a certain low level. no enthusiasm or care, just so-so
I am Russian. Lived first 30 years of my life in USSR, and the next 30 - in US. When Michael asked if people talking about wonders of communism made the guys consider violence - this sure rang a bell. Every time I hear another snotnose expound on the wonders of socialism or communism - which here in California is unfortunately far from a rare event - I feel that very need for violence Michael asked about. Usually telling myself something along the lines of 'it's not their fault that they don't know WTF they are talking about, they aren't bad kids, just ignorant and dumb' works best to calm down. 🙂
If - and only if - you feel comfortable sharing even small snippets of info on the reality of communism, with friends, neighbors, etc. that you can trust to not fly into a rage and start screaming woke rhetoric at you, please do. It's important to keep the truth alive, and it will continue to spread. Trust me - people LOVE to be able to say "Yeah, well I know a real person who lived through that and here's the reality of how that actually works out!" It's not your responsibility or burden. You've been through enough. Just something to consider. I'm thrilled you got out of that and sorry you had to endure it at all. All the best to you :)
As a reformed socialist, you're exactly right. It's a religion that relies on ignorance to sustain itself. What really broke me out of my red stupor was Thomas Sowell asking the simple question: "How much should a load of bread cost?"
Except for the fact that it IS their fault! They are self entitled scum who have never struggled for anything and want to talk about the struggle. I'm so SICK of these no nothings preaching what they think is best for everybody else. It's insufferable and it makes my blood boil!
Do not confuse Socialism for Communism nor all shades of each. Capitalism is toxic as shit and crushes the average person, and is the reason we are looking at a rise in fascism on the Right and anarchists on the Left. Socialism literally means the the PEOPLE control the means of production. That can be *DEMOCRATIC socialism*. The only true difference is that the Capitalist don't get to set policies that benefit the few, rather policies are set to benefit the populace. If it doesn't apply that goal, it isn't *really* socialist, it's just a name to sell a product.
As a Cuban who lived 20yrs under that regime when I was younger and suffered their oppression, I almost feel ill when American leftists tell me that they want the US to be like Cuba. That they call it wonderful or a marxist paradise when they don't know anything about except propaganda, probably the funniest comment I've ever got from an American lefty is that I was racist for being opposed to the Castro regime and that somehow I was evil for living in Miami and that my family were slave owners and that I was one LOL when I'm a black dude and slavery was abolished in Cuba in the 1800s. You can't have an argument with these people, they're completely crazy and believe their own made up BS.
If you’ve ever watched “The Killing Fields”, that was the journey my parents had to take. We watched that film quite a few times, with my parents reiterating that such atrocities were quite real. That was my warning as a child. As an adult, I’m seeing those atrocities begin to seep into American society. We fled to the US in the 70s to escape the madness, and the madness has now spread through the US. Yet each time I warn people, they disbelieve. That’s where we’re at.
We have to get people to start speaking up about this and focusing less on the effects. People are so caught up in what's happening that they are missing why it's happening and how much danger we are in. Thank you for commenting this and please continue to warn people, even if some won't understand
@@jefftheriault3914same here, and I look sometimes pretty pathetic, but I made this my duty to share my story and maybe that will start to observe things around
Starting? Anyone who let them in met the same fate. Let's just say the good guys lost WWII and most of what you thought you knew about them was absolute nonsense.
I'm Polish. I finished The White Pill on February 24th, my 31st birthday, which means I was born when the ugly corpse of USSR was barely cooled. Yes, we are taught about the evils of communism, but this book was just on another level. I've never felt so moved by a non-fiction before. I felt super depressed while reading about the communist regime, but it was the stories of all those victories (slow, then sudden) that really made me cry. I've told the story about senior Germans digging their tunnel to freedom over a dozen times and my eyes still get wet when I think about it. Thank you for this book, Michael.
Thank you for your valuable insights. I admire those from Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea and the former Iron Curtain-captive countries who tell us the truth. They know what socialism really is.
I live in eastern Germany and while a lot of people in the east are extremely sceptical of any totalitarian tendencies in the government, the people in the western part of the country seem to welcome those tendencies very much. The worst part is that no one is trying to listen or understand those in the east and their reasoning, listen to the parallels they see to the sowjet times. Our media just labels those people as uneducated, racist bigots. I'm from the western part of the country but I find it utterly disrespectful to what people in eastern Germany have been through.
I’m a millenial. It is in equal parts shocking & horrifying how many in my generation in the UK PROUDLY call themselves Socialists, denounce ANYONE on the right as a far-right fascist, & will cut you off for not politically aligning with them. I remind them of the USSR, Germany, Venezuela, North Korea, China … the list goes on. Nope. Nothing shifts them. I’ve lost many friends & I do think, in part, it’s because my personality, values & ideologies shifted to being more centre-right. My school was VERY left-leaning but, thankfully, my history AS-level teacher was very critical of Stalin and the Tsars (both doing awful things in their own ways).
@@xmathmanx Tbh this teacher was good, very objective in her approach, I could never tell her politics. Looking back actually she was pretty darn great as a teacher. You could tell she loved history & respected critical analysis.
It’s odd isn’t it? I am Asian and live in a very Asian dominated suburb in Australia. What shocked me was.. there were communists’ propaganda flying all over the local shops and I’m kinda shook because I thought the mainlanders that migrated over would never ever want this kind of idealogy planted in a place of “freedom”! I’m not so naive to believe that there are zero “plants” but I’m just surprised the majority of them (aunties and uncles - ppl who have lived through more shit than the younger ones) are ok with it.
If people wonder why this has occurred IMO: - Age (we know younger people are always more left-leaning) - School, Malice has a point there FOR SURE. - Linked to the previous point, many stay in uni to “avoid the real world & work as long as possible” so that could extend holding these ideologies in echo chambers unless they’re in a degree that depends upon critical analysis. - The left’s call to “kindness” and “compassion”. The media plays a heavy role in this. - Centrists, Libertarians and Conservatives having terrible PR 😅 It’s just not seen as “fun” - Linked to the above, not wanting responsibility or accountability. On a podcast recently a young woman defined feminism as “getting to do what you want” … I think that summarises it well. Having to work hard & earn your way isn’t what they want.
well of course your school isn't going to be very right-leaning/ultra-capitalist unless it was private? why would they vote for systems that wanted to shut them down and let you starve to death in a Mad Max way if they had the chance? There is a reason why Blake describes dark, satanic mills in the song Jerusalem, and it had nothing to do with the horrors of Stalin's socialism.
I’m used to seeing Michael Malice being sarcastic and joking. I think this is the first time I’ve seen him this sober and serious, and it was riveting. What a great conversation, I learned a lot.
@@hebber1961 "Gas-lighting" to describe someone's perceptual engine you disagree with brings as much information currency to a dialogue as shouting "Witchcraft!" at them does. Cheers.
@Malice His brand of trolling isn't to have fun, it's specifically to piss off the powers that be and their citizen lackeys who love to flex their bootlicking on you and are proud to display how well they can mimic their owners by using the same talking points, insults, and even manner of speaking. From inflection down to phrases like "You DO know that (blank) right?" or "Yeah this guy totally believes (horrible thing) is *checks notes* (insert strawman)". If it is grating to you then you should examine what about it specifically is grating to you, cuz the only people it should piss off are those who are programmed to be annoyed and angered by it. Not trying to dig at you, just trying to get you to understand, people who truly are not mentally enslaved by the corporate press in any way, are the ones who really appreciate Malice's brand of interacting with people who do not understand him or his ideals and refuse to try to understand. That's also why he gets aggressive and interrupts and shits on people in convos cuz while Malice is perfectly capable of sitting down with people who disagree with him, he is not going to let people misrepresent his ideals, and he is not going to play patty cake with disingenuous cretins that are no better than the enemy of the people, the corporate press. Like Malice says, the day the average journalist is treated the same as the average tobacco executive, is the day true progress is made.
People want a radical shift in the system, as the system has not been benefiting them for quite some time (for the younger generations, the system has never been beneficial to them). So it's not surprising that people aren't concerned. However, that shouldn't eliminate hope. People just want change, and if society makes good changes rather than bad changes it will still appease them.
Speaking as a cynic, here is my problem... I cannot find a group of Americans who are educated enough about current affairs, or who are even willing to understand the problems facing us, that my default position is that we are screwed!
It's so strange. Biden bombed Syria today and nothing no otrage no ww3 is coming. When Trump killed that Iranian general everyone was freaking out. Dems just don't care
I was raised on family stories. Those stories effected how I could listen to the stories for hours. My folks' stories of being children during the Great Depression and the wars. My maternal grandmother was German raised in America. She spoke of Germany before during and after WWII. In the 1960's, my grandmother took me on errands around the San Francisco Bay area. She would translate and deliver letters from East Germany to relatives in the area. We would wait while she wrote a letter back to their families. She would often get gifts like loaf of bread or a roast. I remember one lady who showed me her tattooed number. In broken English mixed with Yiddish she told me that "they" took everything but they did not take her mind. She encouraged me to have a strong mind. I didn't really understand.
yeah try pushing back with the slightest breeze of disagreement on twitter and see how false your assessment is. hell, try to build on his own words, but in a way he hasn't thought of. 100 bucks says he's got a top 5 longest block list for people who only block manually.
He literally acts like J6 was 9/11 and has said as much. The grifter can rot in hell for all i care. We dont need him in America, he can take his wothless self back to Poland.
The truth pill is the one to take. it’s the inoculation against all that will kill us slowly; endless lies, eating away at us from the inside. The courage to just turn and face the truth breaks the chains … and the scales fall away … the truth will out! All that is needed is the courage to face it. So if we are no longer tempted by lies, we are walking away from temptation … ?? Lead me not in to temptation … the Lord Prayer give us the courage. It’s the very reason we have it… Now is the time to live for goodness’ sake, for without it we are & have nothing. We have a choice
I’m a high school history teacher from upstate NY: please know we’re not ALL left wing nut jobs trying to indoctrinate kids. Critical thinking is the number one skill I try to help my students develop. We just spent an entire month on the authoritarian regimes of the 20th century; not just the names and dates and people (basic history stuff), but the psychology of authoritarianism itself, and what gets people to buy into authoritarianism. Hopefully I’ve done a good enough job that, as these kids grow up and enter the world, they will be able to recognize authoritarianism as it appears in their own lives.
Yes. There was a period of time where we were finding job postings for "quarantine facilities" in Canada and the USA that gave us a very very bad feeling. I saw the people of my community in a new light as they publicly hoped for the suffocating deaths of those who chose not to be injected. It was scary. We didn't know if it would get worse and worse or die down. We don't know now if there is a part 2 coming.
The mayor of Longmont, CO (Boulder County) asked that an ordiance be drafted banning residents from the neighboring County (Weld) from being admitted to the Longmont UC Health hospital because Weld County wouldn't require all citizens to get the jab. Our newly reelected Governor, Jared Polis said, " You're either on the side of the virus or the side of Coloradoans...To undermine, with no real authority, the state's efforts to save lives ultimately amounts to dangerous free loading and jeopardizes lives."
I am from Hungary and my great grandparents were also Kuláks, besides losing their land (weren't rich by any means just had some land and animals) my grand father also had to change his name not to be identified as a Kulák and have a future. My other grandparents (from my mothers side) lost a big portion of their land. Lands and possessions were taken and melted into the possessions of the government and then people worked for the government. Everyone had to be equal, but in reality, equality was more like everyone had to be equally poor. But this is just a small portion of what communism is and I am so glad you guys are talking about it. It completely blows my mind that westerners want to communism. I worked in a few western countries, but I had a coworker in the UK who flat out told me that she was a communist! I told her she does not know what she was talking about. Keep up the good work and keep educating the west about communism, it is scary what is going down.
My grandparents left Hungary in 1929 during the Great Depression. My paternal grandfather was a very strong tough guy and worked the coal mines in Nova Scotia and believe it or not saved enough money to purchase a farm in Hungary as my grandmother missed her family and wanted to return. They were going to return in 1948 after the war but the communists took everything. All his hard work just evaporated. They were much better off staying in Canada!
All people have to do is read 1984 to want to stay lightyears away from "egalitarian" societies! Yet the fascination with Communism aka Socialism continues and has even escalated. Will never understand, although I've learnt in the last few years that some people actually enjoy authoritarianism, oppression, the breakdown of societal structures and suffering......
Before the Berlin Wall fell a friend’s family sponsored a family from the Soviet Union. We live in a small town close to Austin, Texas. The immigrant man couldn’t believe our local grocery store wasn’t so well stocked unless “the officials must shop here”. So we took him to the poorest area in Austin, drove around so he could see the houses in the neighborhood and assure himself that there weren’t any probable elites shopping at the store. When we went in and the stock of everything matched the stock in our local store, he was shocked and stunned. The shelves were full, the produce was fresh, the floor was clean, and the people freely filling their baskets with whatever they wanted without rationing.
@Sudenim s I can’t imagine what it would be like to not have food to give my family. I’m afraid I might turn into a tyrant too. I’m thankful for you finding your voice. Keep speaking and seeking truth.
Malice is legit the only famous person I’m glad moved to Texas. Btw, you can thank my uncle Robert Conquest for the numbers on the Holodomor- no one believed him until Alexandr Solzhenitsyn asked to meet him immediately upon his release. I grew up hearing about the horrors of the Soviet Union. Unimaginable horrors
According to michael, the US government is equally evil to stalin's USSR during the holodomor. All states are equally evil in the imaginations of AnCaps
I grew up during the Cold War in what is now the European Union, and I agree with him wholeheartedly, with a heavy heart. There was never a guarantee that it would all stop on a certain day, or in any year in the future. The day the Berlin Wall fell and was torn down by everyday people with hammers and their bare hands, all of us got to finally experience what it meant to be truly free to choose and make decisions. I still fill up with tears of joy, when I remember seeing the Wall come down, and family and friends were finally able to embrace each other.
I have several blackpilled Facebook friends who once in a while make a statement of doom. I always shake a finger at them and give them some encouragement. I'll definitely read Michael's book. What alarms the black-pilled among liberty lovers is that there are signs that are more pronounced than before of a blatant abandonment of reason, of a new target of racism, shamelessly pursued, that scores points among certain people who claim to be anti-racist, and a targeting of children in the race and gender "wars". These issues have to be taken seriously, confronted, and defeated. And they can be. But many people who do take it seriously burn out over it. Also, many people do not have the skills or the temperament to fight unrelentingly and effectively. They, themselves feel impotent, and that makes for a sense that everything is hopeless. They need to be offered ideas of how to participate in the fight according to their own stamina and talents. The danger of the kind of cultural changes we've been seeing is that incremental destructive steps prepare people for a totalitarian end by getting people used to an ever creeping loss of liberties. A little arsenic at a time isn't so bad, until it is. But giving up on liberty is not an acceptable option, and as long as we have the freedom to speak, we must do it fearlessly. We also must continually hone our communication skills and emotional control.
This dumpster fire of a banana republic doesn't deserve to be saved, the founder's would agree. I'm going to a country that I have faith in and have faith in the people and their future.
I absolutely agree that our opponents in this "war" are not the evil geniuses many assume they are - the proof: just look at the absurd things they believe in; they have mediocre minds at best. Another point Michael made that I agree with is that things can change fast, often very unexpectedly and just because things look bad now it doesn't mean things will not be completely different in the not too distant future. Finally, I can't stand defeatism - I get annoyed whenever I read a comment like "England's finished"; you're bound to lose if you give up when the fight's barely begun - if we all thought like that it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
No doubt you get annoyed, but it’s true. Only a completely different system of education, courts and civil service would even begin to slow down the damage to England, let alone halt or reverse the process. Facts are facts. You have a growing immigrant class that hates you, supported by the entire government and media apparatus. Half your country still supports unrestricted immigration and increased oppression of those who oppose it. Unmarried males from hostile countries are arriving by the thousands every week, aside from the official number of a million legal immigrants a year. The numbers of English willing to actually risk anything by open oppposition, let alone action, is tiny. How on your view is the enormous change going to happen?
There are 2 replies to You comment that I am not able to view - could be a glitch or YouToube decided to shadow ban them. Non of the worst totalitarian monsters were some evil superhuman geniuses. And this is a banal point that things can always get better, but they can always can get worst too. I do not see how a banal truth like that can help except yea it is very important not to give to despair - but You do not need 56 min to tell a banal truth like that.
As MM rightly says, cynicism is corrosive, but I'll add, to turn a blind eye to what's going on is cynicism too. "Cute Authoritarianism", Ewan Morrison - well worth a read and leaving a comment.
I live in Canada, and I, among many other Canadians, were forced to lose our incomes until who knows when, we were turned into second class citizens, and we were literally prisoners in our own country if we didn't take the jab, despite our personal health risks... I've been talking about how totalitarian our country became, and I had some lefties dismiss what I was saying like this type of treatment is not totalitarian and how I could not bring up totalitarian regimes that committed atrocities to so many people... But the Canadians that I met who fled communist China or the Soviet Union and other countries were talking about how this is far too similar to what they experienced and fled from. I mean, when you prevent someone from keeping their source of income, and you prevent them from receiving employment benefits because not taking the jab was listed as being off work due to "misconduct" how is that not totalitarian? Trudeau was trying to starve us out by cutting off our ability to have an income and preventing us from leaving the country... I don't know, if what we were forced to live through doesn't open more people's eyes, I don't know what will.. There is so much in this interview that I relate to... A lot of the tactics used by our government to force people into compliance by shutting the dissidents out was definitely influenced by soviet style tactics. It's actually a bit hard to listen to at times because it brings back many memories..
I've had the same warnings from people from those countries in the US. Commonly it's " this is how it starts". I'm going to take them seriously. Comparing what's going on currently to how bad it got in those countries is wrong. Warning that this is leading in that direction I don't believe is.
@@debanydoombringer1385 I agree, because people tend to dismiss the beginning stages and the warning signs, but I believe those are some of the most important parts to acknowledge. Otherwise, things go too far and at that point you're screwed. I also truly believe that if it wasn't for our Freedom Convoy, we would be in a much worse position than we are now. The Freedom Convoy and the attention it brought to our country helped immensely. It also forced our opposition parties to start opposing Trudeau and force him to end some of the mandates and allow people to go back to work. Though our Healthcare workers who didn't get the jab still have not been allowed to get back to work..
@@wyleecoyotee4252 it was coercive at the time. If you didn't comply, you lose your source of income, cant access your employment insurance benefits, are shut out of society, almost entirely.. Did someone come to our door and force everyone to take it? No, not yet, but it was a huge concern and it very likely could have led to that because our Public Health wanted to force every single person to take it. I have a genetic condition that puts me at huge risk of the jab, but my doctor wasnt even allowed to write me a letter of exemption because as she said, my "condition isn't listed as one of the government approved reasons" for her to write me an exemption. She could have lost her license if she chose to write me a letter anyway. The reasons listed for an exemption were if you could prove that you have a deadly allergy to one of the ingredients in the jab, or if you took a previous dose and almost died. Though some people were in that position and still could not get an exemption. But sure, we were able not to get it. Just try to destroy our lives, psychology torture us for years, shut us out from society, prevent us from leaving the country, force our children to endure being shut out of society, sports, and get shunned by those around them, including friends... plus so much more. And as the PM of the country, insult us and dehumanize us, calling us racists, homophobes, etc for not complying, then publicly ask if they should tolerate these people. You know who said that before things escalated and led to a genocide?
@Krisa You do realize that Covid was at it's highest mortality just before they started with the first vaccinations. Only after the first doses were issued did infections and deaths decrease. Are you in denial of these facts? I worked as a healthcare professional through the pandemic and had no issue with the vaccines or boosters. Most employees got the vaccine. Only a small percentage didn't even after the extended grace period. It was a choice. I'm sorry your condition wasn't on the list. They didn't want people taking advantage of exemptions.
My grandparents emigrated from Italy to Venezuela in 1949. They were destitute on arrival, but, like the many Italians and others there, built a life for themselves through hard work and dedication. They had bakeries, pizza shops, diamond cutting labs, and a law firm. The photos from Maracaibo of my mom in the 1960s and 70s, shows a Venezuela full of construction cranes, cars, parks, families living happily, no weird racial or social tensions, and it looked vibrant and alive. By the time Chavez was in office for a year, my families businesses, homes, bank accounts and passports were seized. They were deemed, after almost half a century, as unwelcomed bourgeoisie, and had all their work disintegrated within about a year or so. Gangs of uniformed men would go door-to-door in affluent neighborhoods to literally sack them. The notion of forced equality inevitably requires theft from those who worked for what they have, and gifts to those that have no merit for them. I will forever be against any sort of notion of equality as policy, as my family has had to escape it, twice. I'll be damned if it'll happen to me, here.
Michael does give me hope when he talks about these things, which I appreciate so much. I'm Canadian and right now things are not good, my doctor is closing her practice, I have a 1 year old, and the list to get a new doctor is literally years long. Without a GP you cannot get tests ordered, the clinics are basically places to get antibiotics, if you want to get a test done you have to wait at the ER for 18+ hours. I say all of this only because I'm feeling more and more angry toward my own country, it doesn't feel like we are a first world country, and it feels like we are crumbling.
I have a friend who has post surgical complications, they drove her around to 4 different hospitals before one would take her while she's potentially bleeding to death in the ambulance. 3+ hours. They couldn't call ahead? We desperately need more options for health care. Our government is too corrupt and incompetent to handle the system the way it is. You can throw all the money you want at it, it's not going to fix it. Go ahead and build 2 new hospitals, good luck finding the people to work there. We have too many immigrants, our system can't handle the strain anymore.
I wish more Americans understood this. Twenty years ago we had a friend coming down from Canada because he wanted his father to get an operation to remove cancer and would have to wait six months in the Canadian system. He lamented how fortunate he was to have the money to do so. Twenty years ago. Now this. There were doctors losing their licenses just two years ago here because they wanted to treat their patients with a Nobel winning wonder drug that wasn't the vaccine. Things can get a hell of a lot worse. Remember when Mengele was considered the personification of evil? Now our current regime has convinced parents to be the cruel experimenters in their children. Okay, I'm spinning over here-enough.
I have loved Malice’s No Korea book! Now I just ordered this new one. I’m amazed at the lack of reading, especially history among younger generations. I’m 73 and have been passionately opposed to any form of totalitarianism since at least 13. I read as a teen 1984, The Gulag Archipelago, The rise and fall of the third Reich, Several by Ayn Rand and more.
I've just finished reading 1984 for the first time. I know it's a cliche to say that every bleak situation is just like 1984. But honestly, if you read it you'll realise that that book was not fiction. It was a premonition. And a lot of the seeds of dystopia that that book talks about, is being sowed with gleeful abandon in todays modern progressive society. Please be forewarned and read that damn book. I'm a fast reader, like 200,000 words a day fast. 1984 is 89,000 words and it took me three weeks finally get to finishing it because 1.) it's so bleak and 2.) it's a very real reflection of the end point to all of the progressive bullshit that were being forced to comply with. Read 1984.
I first read it as a teenager and I enjoyed the story but it didn't impact me in the same way as when I re-read it recently. It's mind blowing how many things he predicted would happen. A couple of weeks ago I got talking to a guy who was reading it for the first time and he was at the end of the book and struggling with the bleakness near the end. It's certainly not a feel good story.
@@jeradkiester698 I plan to, but I'm going to hold off on reading bleak books one after the other, maybe interperse some hopeful books in between before diving back into dystopian novels.
I'm a Sri Lankan. Our country (or island lol) used to be socialist in the 70s which made out country suffer terribly. Education was bust, networks was bust, new technology was rejected, homelessness was rampant. It was an absolute wasteland in the 70s and my grandparents still say stories about this in an explicit manner, and when I try to show this to a socialist I'm simply dismissed as being 'ignorant' or 'bigoted' or 'brainwashed.'
What I've learned for my very limited experience on such matters in the past, was going up against people who not only believe they're right, but have utter contempt for anyone who doesn't agree with them, and thus feel entirely justified in not only not debating anyone who doesn't agree with them, but being ruthless in their pursuit of crushing those who challenge them into silence. They believe they don't have to explain or justify anything. They are right, and that's all there is to it. Agree or be silenced. I've since come to understand this is tyrannical thinking.
My daughter has four kids in an elementary school in California. She got an intradistrict transfer for them as the school closest to her house has lower test, scores, etc.. Recently her fourth grade son told her that the teacher had read the book “It Feels Good to be Yourself” to the class. He was very confused by it, and my daughter was very unhappy that this had been introduced to the class. The book suggests that you (the child reading it) might be transgender too. My daughter spoke to the principal about it, and was told that she was the first parent to complain and that she (the principal) had not read the book. About a month later my daughter receives a letter stating that due to absences, her kids might lose their transfer. The letter stated you have to have a much higher attendance percentage, when you are attending by transfer. My daughter spoke with her oldest child’s teacher, who was very surprised and said she felt like her attendance was fine. She has been going to that school since kindergarten. My daughter and her husband are feeling like this is probably due to their complaint about this book. Things like this are happening and I don’t understand why he says in this video that it is wrong to say “that’s like communism” or something like that. It’s a slippery slope. When are you allowed to say something like that? Do you want to just wait until we are full-blown Russia? I agreed with a lot of things he said, but I just don’t get this.
This is a great conversation. I remember as a kid my dad managed an exhibition of Soviet space exploration in Britain and thorough that made some great Russian friends. The up-shot was we as a family played host to some of the organisers on the Soviet side. Now, we lived in the suburbs of a large English city. We were not rich. We were not overtly political as a family. There's a moment that made an indelible mark on me. Shortly after the first guest we had arrived we took her along to do the weekly grocery shop. Bear in mind this is a provincial High Street in the 1980s. Our Russian guest was awed by the the amount of food and the choice of food available. She was clearly moved. The last stop was the butcher's shop at the end of the High Street. She stood outside the shop-front window looking in crying her heart out at the abundance of food available to everyone. That moment, as a child, communicated to me all I needed to know about the abject failure of the Soviet project. So as discussed in the video, until you have experienced the impact of life behind the iron curtain from a person who lived it, then you can never truly understand the reality of having nothing and being lied to about how great that is. Even if it's something as basic (and perhaps in some ways as superficial) as being chronically hungry and the psychological damage that does. I shudder to imagine living the deeper horrors of such an actually oppressive (compared with the snowflake version in the West), tyrannical regime such as the USSR really was.
@@hufficag The Great Reset, with the now famous quote from its author Schwab, "You will own nothing and be happy," has the hallmark of a communist dystopia on a global scale.
but there are plenty of British people that cannot afford that abundant food in the shops...bit soon to to be patting ourselves on the back about how perfect our system is... its fine of you have cash to buy that food ...like Soviet Russia if you dont
Couldn't agree more. One of those rare intellectuals that can make me feel optimistic about the future and splash some water in my sometimes cynical face.
My grandfather was a prisoner in Siberia for 4 years (1945-1949) , we talk about a Romanian willage,and his story's about those days was terrible and I still don't understand how he survived
Here's the thing about Michael,and I want to preface this with the fact that I love him and own all of his books. He doesn't understand the rural mindset, and more specifically he doesn't understand the southern and western rural American mindset. He moved to Austin, but that is really not the real Texas and he won't understand until he gets in touch with us. He has no clue how hard it is to live outside of the cities. The small, rural towns that comprise the majority of what you call the "flyover states" are the only thing keeping this country from slipping into full authoritarianism. You can live in your cities with your virtue signaling and blinders on, and still survive. FOR NOW. You touched on the Kulaks, but didn't comprehend the misery associated forevermore with that tag. We have serious fears out here in the country about what you are allowing to happen in the city, honestly it's the reason the majority of us don't want to live there.
Russia is actually doing just fine under sanctions. They've been sanction proofing their country since 2012. They have massive stores of gold which if we all remember is what money used to be based on. Russia being kicked out of SWIFT allowed them to get off the petro dollar - the same petro dollar that's worth less and less by the day. Because as it turns out when you just continue to print money it's worth less and less. Scarcity. Basic economics. Etc. The US dollar is the reserve currency of the world - yet the US dollar is collapsing. Russia getting kicked out of swift just spared them the economic pain the rest of the world that depends on the dollar is about to see. US banks are failing if you havent noticed. Inflation is at a 40 year high. Tribalism and hating whoever your TV tells you too is a big part of why the world currently looks as it does.
I get Michael's point about us being able to turn woke ideology off by reading a chosen book, listening to music or watching sports. But it only goes so far. Woke ideology creeps in nearly everywhere, and to avoid it for even just a whole day takes, if not considerable gymnastics, at least not doing a lot of things you would otherwise. It is insidiously taking over _everything,_ let's face up to that.
Yes, I'm not sure why he doesn't understand that. He dismisses the situation today in the West as nothing compared to the atrocities of the 20th century, which is true, but he doesn't seem to quite get the insidious psychology of totalitarianism, what some have called 'soft' totalitarianism. I think it's because as an anarchist he's got bigger fish to fry, like getting rid of the education system altogether.
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@@aranisles8292 He understands it too well. His point is most people in the West cannot comprehend what total 1984 is. As having similar background as him, I can relate.
This sounds a bit like how I was raised....My stepfather was a physically violent alcoholic..he would go off at any moment. I lived in constant fear..even when I would be asleep he would come in and begin to yell and sometimes more. From the age of 8 to 16 I was in hell. I have been diagnosed with PTSD and manic depression.. I am now 51 years old and I still have a hard time around people. I can relate to his description to an authoritarian regime to an extent but on a smaller scale.
I am so sorry I suffered under my father. Everyday. I should have ran away at 14 instead of 17. Good luck to you. The way of this world is difficult. Almost everyone gaslights our reality. The few who have it made never could understand the lives of the many. They speak about us as if we are unnecessary.
@elektromanyaro thank you for your response..I felt the similarities were astonishing. Sharing our experiences with those who never went through this is a route to healing. Peace and healing to you as well.
@@artandculture5262 agreed...I think most of the people who want this style of government have never had to work and believe its an easy way out of responsibility.
This type of info must be spread far and wide. The general masses must know where this leads and how bad it can get. If this were happening prior to the internet, I’d be black pilled. But the internet even with its censorship is still getting the info out there. Hell we’re listening to former New Yorker on a UK podcast while I’m sitting in the pnw. I’m optimistic for the future
About 2/3 of the way through, systems and paradigms were mentioned and how so many people get caught up in believing in them, and not allowing their brains to think outside the box. That really summed it up for me. I really appreciate Michael Malce's intellectualism as well as these two guys in TRIGGERnometry. Also, the discussions of negativity and cynics, and how we must not allow ourselves to fall into that. After only listening to two or three of this channels programs, I am a big fan and I will be ordering Michael 's new book. Probably several copies. So I can give them to friends that I believe may read them and actually learn something from his work.
Discovered Malice back around 2015 on The Tom Woods Show, the very failed podcaster. Found Triggernometry around the time of the pandemic. Them together is a Christmas present! Love from Australia.
Large parts of the left have never been very keen on exposing the history of communism. Not least because there were clearly ideological ties. And I remember socialists (not communists) arguing that the soviet or chinese systems despite having their flaws were aiming at the correct goals. I also met at lot of socialists who flatly denied the imperialistic character of the Sovietunion because in their view socialism or communism could simply not be imperialistic by definition..
Back in the 80's Bernie Sanders was extolling the virtues of the USSR and Cuba. Intellectual dishonesty from the progressive/communist/socialist sphere knows no bounds.
It forever disturbs and perplexes me how so much of the Western population are somehow massively naive to how lucky we've been and how bad things can get if we keep heading down the road of "Cancel Culture". Don't they watch movies? That's all I've ever needed as a good supplement to viewing States in context of time and ideals.
@D M. Yes there is a lot of ignorance in tge free world. Search RUclips where people are asked to locate the U.S. or any other country on a map. Also they are asked what the Civil War was about or who was president then. In the tearing down of Civil War statues a few years back, Lincoln's statue was torn down. I suppose they just figured he was an old historic guy and thus needed "cancelling". These naive people should spend a few days visiting North Korea, but then they would have "minders" steering them around.
I listen to his podcast and have seen him as a guest on many podcasts but never read any of his books. He's an awesome writer and this is a powerful sobering book of relatively recent history which people have already forgot but shouldn't!
I was a student at Vanderbilt in Nashville in the 1970s and for some inexplicable reason there was a Soviet consumer electronics exhibit in town. (It seems so random now--in Nashville!?!) Today I'm impressed there were any consumer electronics from the USSR but being ignorant then, we just assumed everyone had the same things we had, so this stuff had to be their vintage stuff, historic. When we learned it was state of the art USSR, we experienced pure cognitive dissonance. Nearly vertigo. This sad stuff was meant to...what? Impress us? We were aghast. European stuff was strange but generally recognizable and had some panache. This stuff was pitiful. It filled us with disbelief. And pity. Perhaps youthful ignorance is no more vast today than it was then. Mr Malice is doing us all a great service.
I would guess The Soviets weren't putting up their state of the art stuff on display. They were probably using it as an excuse to see our state of the art electronics.
I cannot be confident about where the line between skepticism and cynicism is, and I am certainly both skeptical and cynical about much of the so-called positively spun political stories I hear and read, but Michael does have a very good point about cynicism. I also think his point that training people not to expect, and therefore not to bother working towards, a better life is a very strong point. It reminds me a bit of the idea of newspeak. If people are not talking about something, they are almost certainly thinking much less about it. Thank you all.
I grew up in Communistic Poland for the first 15 years of my life, and its a soul crushing life. You have no idea what it means to live in society where there is no hope. I was beaten by Zomo special Police, when I was 13 years old. This Police force was used for riots and its members would receive injection of what was called "Stupid John", which made you insensitive to other humans suffering. Under its influence Zomo police men were capable of killing their own parents if it served the system. Its not what you want int he west, let me assure you.
During Glastnost, the US had a pilot swap program with the Soviets. Our company makes F-15’s and F-18s. My buddy was an escort to one of the Soviet pilots and took him to a super market. He couldn’t believe that it wasn’t a government store. So my friend takes him to a phone book, pulls out the yellow pages and said, pick another one. They go there and it’s the same. A place of bounty.
I never actually thought I'd miss the Cold War, but as far as the west was concerned, the obvious looming danger of the Soviet empire created a disciplined and organised reaction in the west which made life a hell of a lot better in terms of individual liberty than under the Maoist Red Guard bullying that's going on today.
I often feel the same way. It was easier in a way to figure out how to survive a nuclear apocalypse, believing our own government was on our side, then today where our supposedly democratically elected seem to hate us.
Your voices are a light in the darkness we are being cloaked in. You have been there and understand what is happening and just how bad things are going to get if we don't change course.
Hey Guys, this is certainly one of your best analysis and actually I found it inspiring. Just started reading the The Gulag Archipelago to better understand what "bad" really is/was!! I also TOTALLY agree with not letting the present narrative change my being a "good citizen" and a good person.
I remember in the 50's my family kneeling on the floor daily, to pray the rosary and it was frequently dedicated to the Berlin Wall coming down. Also many masses at church were dedicated to the same request.
@@jamesalexander8872 I think you’re right. I thought I was around 8 or 9 when we were doing that but my oldest sister who is 92 thinks I would have been more like 12 or 13. When I was 8 or 9 we were praying for Communism to fall. My bad.
@@Anastasia91000 I don't blame you! That was a long time ago. I wasn't even born until 1978. It was probably the 60s. I think the wall was built in 1961. I remember it coming down in 1989. We still had " duck and cover " drills in school in the 1980s. The wall did come down so your family's prayers were answered! We still need to keep praying today though!
I think it was Angelo Codevilla who said that when he visited the USSR in the 1980s you could tell who was connected directly to the Communist Party because they had access to good food, oranges, bananas, etc. They were the generals and the people at the top. He said they looked like Americans. But as you moved down the classes and got further away from power, you could tell they looked worse, paler, thinner, greyer. Ironically, a totally class society, in a society that was trying to get beyond classes! When Roger Scruton visited Poland at about the same time, he visited a Polish couple. They were so poor they would only offer their guests an onion.
Schooling has always been to “make good citizens,” as Michael said. But we do not always see good citizens as docile sheep accepting an elite narrative. For many teachers (I was one) a good citizens is widely read, well-informed, armed with critical thinking skills and an inquiring mind. Now that so many schools have become indoctrination mills, these values can be hard to see. But some teachers do continue quietly to do actual teaching.
I feel we all had a small taste of this with the lockdowns and now the attack on free speech and praying etc. People have been terrorized by our own government for the past 3 years afraid of losing their jobs and having to take part in a medical experiment while being ostracized by their friends. However the Dutch farmers have just won the majority in their Parliament so good things do happen too.
No,not a majority,they are just the biggest party now. They got 16 out of 72 seats in our "senate". But the leading coalition lost the majority and will have to make deals with some new parties,not necessarily Farmers Party. And Farmers Party can not make big enough coalition to rule without some of the "WEF" parties. And those were municipal elections,not a big deal.
I lived and worked in Cambodia from 1998 to 2017. I married my Cambodian wife in 2002. She was in her 50s then and suffered through Pol Pot/Khmer Rouge. Her story makes people cry.
Michael, people upset about Bloomberg's soda ban wasn't unjustified. We should balk at and push back on stuff like that. Americans get a whiff of any of type of authoritarianism and we sniff it out. Because we're not used to it. And we don't want it to turn into something worse. Michael acts as if the people's reaction was overblown. Nobody compared it to Venezuela or North Korea.
He's an anarchist and most of his actions are those of a trojan horse. Happy he's in Texas so he can help ruin that state just like his ilk ruined New York and so many other places.
I have friends who fled Czechoslovakia when the Soviets sent in the tanks August 20, 1968. Today they have real concerns now as an entire generation who has not experienced socialism is embracing what their grandparents fought to overcome.
I don't see a white pill. "Here's where the authoritarian trend goes, it's way worse than you thought." I get that he's saying "we're not there yet, so be happy things aren't so bad", but a real white pill would be reasons to believe the trend won't continue.
He gave them. The trust in media is gone, the trust in politicians is going, now it's the trust in the intellectuals that needs to go. Without trust and people listening to them, they lose any real power.
Many people born in the developed world after fiat currency arrived and the sexual revolution and irreligiousity went mainstream are adrift. The times haven't been hard though. They've been a gradual incremental comfortable slide. If we stray further off track - more control, less freedom, more skewed wealth distribution and so on, resistance will increase. The attempts to suppress it will make some scared, but others angry. Every action ultimately has an equal and opposite reaction, eventually. The old adage applies - hard men make good times, good times make soft men, soft men make hard times. Then comes the real test. Are you, as a soft man raised at the end of the good times, going to remain a soft man who looks at what once was and is slipping away with sadness and weeps, and then shrugs his shoulders and gives up... or are you going to take the hard road to lead others back?
it seems a mistake to label these things 'evil', not because they arent, but because in a lot of people they dont understand how that evil manifests... in other words, the people prosecuting and supporting this evil, were, for the most part not actually evil themselves, and did not actually consider what they were doing as evil. they had good intentions. an important part of that, is that they labeled THEIR enemies as evil, and they themselves were convinced their opponents were evil, and that is key, because if someone thinks something is evil, then there are no longer any barriers as to what actions are acceptable... I see this now, with the left, painting anyone they disagree with as evil... they are making the first step towards rationalizing atrocities. dehumanize the enemy. anything we do is ok, because we are good, and our enemies are evil....
I know Michael minimizes the small things the right calls authoritarianism but that is how it starts. If we can't identify and stop the small stuff we'll never be able to stop it when it really starts.
45:46 damn man ya know what youre right...even shit i had a hard time getting theough i got through...damn man...thanks for that little boost in confidence
Excellent show in my view this is the kind of discussion we all need to having and the fact that some wish to block or make illegal such discussions tells us who and what they are! To stay positive is to stay free!
"In the 1970's Britain was considered a bit of a joke, I don't think people are saying that today" Not too aware of modern British politics or the position Britain is currently in, is he.
But the thing is, I think many of us do in fact, "understand how bad things can get.". Because Michael & Triggernometry duo, we also have read, and are able to comprehend history. Many of us have talked to people from communist or fascist countries where tyranny came about in the name of, "common good over the good of the individual". We know the horrors the come from any attempts to force uniformity. Some of us are aware of the writings of past Soviets in the past, and the book the 'Gulag Archipelago'. The writer of those personal first hand accounts of the atrocities of communism in practice, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, famously & in his 1978 book with pinpoint precision, accurately described the process in how the deterioration of a free society into a communist hellscape takes place & comes about & I quote, "Liberalism was inevitably replaced by radicalism, radicalism had to surrender to socialism, and socialism could never resist communism. And if we take the next step to it's logical conclusion, communists in power can never resist tyranny. Which is why most of us understand by our 20s that while socialism in theory seems moral, in practice it is immoral & rotten to its core. I respect the hell outta Malice. But in this appearance with Triggernometry I just feel like he's acting as if many of us in the audience are naive. Like we don't understand how bad it can truly get. And it's frustrating because it's so dishonest. Yes we do!!! We just don't wanna wait til it gets to full blown tyrannical state level madness. So yes, some might use hyperbole & say things like this is like 1984. But it's hyperbole. But we understand these things don't happen ova night. That there is process. And right now is only the beginning. The US isn't immune from tyrannical monsters taking hold. Do we want to be free or not. Because every decade the list grows longer & longer of things we can't do, things we can't say, etc. in the name of safety & saving hurt feelings. Enough with this DEI & identity politics BS, enough of heaping you're own unattainable virtues unto others(which used to be the issue with the right & still can be in future if peeps aren't careful who they elect). Radicals on either side are clearly not good. But at least in 2023, it's clear far more danger is coming from left & it's not even close. These are the slave owners in past. We know this cuz of how ok they are with racism as long as it's towards whites. These white leftists are quite literally the blacks in the 1700s who would sell out own race for a seat in the house & some perceived benefits & power. And black leftists are showing that they would've acted the same way & not only been slave owners but treated the slaves disgustingly. Theyve shown their true colors & it's not debatable. Proof is in their words/actions. We need to embrace individualality & just try our damndest to enforce equal opportunity under the law & hold onto the freedoms we have left that we haven't sold out. And make the best of life with what we can. "Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free" ~ Solzhenitsyn ~
My family escaped Albania at the end of WW2. Other family members were not so fortunate. I had one cousin executed for writing a sad poem. You can't be sad in a Marxist utopia, you see? Two other cousins were sent to concentration camp for being related to us. One cousin was released after many years. We still haven't found the remains of the other cousin.
I was in Northern Germany as an exchange student in 1983. On the train heading north, we went by the densely forrested border with East Germany: guard towers on every hill top and two barbed wire fences lining the borders with 100 yards of open mined area between containing anti tank barriers. Quite an eye opener!
My husband and family were stationed in West Germany during the late 80s and early 90s. We took trips into free Berlin, exercising our right of transit from West Germany through East Germany into the allied section of Berlin. Then we’d travel into occupied Berlin. What an eye opener. Unless you are around totalitarianism, you can’t even understand. We always breathed easier when we were back in West Germany. We were also there for the fall of the wall. What an incredible time.
@@naydee - My wife and I were newly married when the Berlin Wall fell. We both cried tears of joy watching people tear it down. At the dinner table several years later as my wife and I were discussing the wall, my 8-yr old daughter asked, “What’s the Berlin Wall?” At the time, I loved that communism was so defeated that she didn’t know about the Berlin Wall. Now, I’m worried… because so many of our young romanticize communism.
The problem in the US is that after 1990 we stopped discusing it here. School kids here barely even heard of it. Like it never happened. Germany did everything to smooth over E. Germany's return and Eastern Bloc nations were busy trying to create functional societies again. Since only military personnel spending months on end on alerts in W. Germany even caught a glipse of what the threat was. The rest was theater and politics. Only those like you that lived through it understand, but honestly, almost no one spoke up. Even if it happened, the government and media didn't want to upset the new regimes. Sadly, the new regimes were essentially the old regimes. The cycle starts again. I'm amazed how politicians and citizens alike who are old enough to remember the Bider Mienhoff gange, riots in Germany over Pershing Missles and the justifiable fear of MAD simply ignore the lessons. It's like people truely learned nothing in those 40+ years.
Malice's central point seems to be that people shouldn't be black-pilled because there are examples of things being worse before, but you could say that about almost anything. I'd like a solid reason for hope beyond just saying 'this too shall pass'.
He regularly says there is no guarantee that freedom will win, but being black pilled doesn't help anything. Look at the people leading and calling for things in the US, they aren't some formidable oppenent that can't be beat. They're a joke most of the time. It doesn't take the whole nation to change things as well, most people aren't going to notice or care. It only takes a small amount of dedicated people. You're here, I'm here, that's something. Signals are going out. We can very well lose, but I'm not going to let them black pill me though, fuck them.
There is no reason. For one he is ideolog and see all thru his ideology. Second I think that he doesn't want to think about horrible things that will happen when system collapses. Normalcy bias.
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01:38 Michael’s Thinking Behind ‘The White Pill’
05:04 Was Society Not Educated Enough on Communism?
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20:45 Our Distrust in Modern Media
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I find it very annoying that Michael hasn't done a thought experiment of "what if people stop saying this is like communism" because it's obvious to me that we have to call out what these things are, which is they are akin to things similar to NK. Sure it's not as extreme but the people that do it would go that far if they could. that's the issue. not pointing it out would invite them to do the atrocities in the west.
"Everything that irritates us about others can lead us to a better understanding of ourselves." C.G.Jung
Noticing that the brakes are giving out is worth telling everyone who is on the train with you. In the US the brakes are giving out. We might not be Soviet Russia but I don't want to keep inching closer until it's too late and we arrived quietly in the night.
I'm ukrainian. My grand grandmother survived holodomor. Her 4 brothers and sisters didn't. She died at the age of 101. With severe dementia. In her last few years she thought she is 12 years old.I remember, she was always hiding food everywhere. Always was asking us for food, even after full lunch. It's like she was scared that food can disappear or someone is going to take it away.
Why do Ukrainians hate lgbt people so much?
Not an unreasonable belief to hold. Just difficult for us to appreciate.
That's so heartbreaking. . . And too few people in the US or UK even KNOW about the holodomor! I'm American and a lot of public schools here don't even mention it. They teach about the horrors of fascism, but they neglect to teach about the horrors of communism.
The pictures from Ukraine during Holodomor are startling. People completely disinterested and just walking by and around corpses because it is so common it does not shock.
@@zxyatiywariii8 Sadly, American schools are staffed by deluded "educators" who believe that socialism/comunism has just never been done properly. They know better and the next time it'll be perfect... as long as they ignore 100 years of historic abject failure and subsequent horror. They hide behind their dogma so that they can be victims of the only cutures that allow their delusions to fester.
As a former teacher, I can confirm that teaching to the test is standard. Children can achieve A grades in exams while being functionally illiterate.
Later they discover cheap drink and get As in incontinence. I did. 💩
cool whats the solution? how do you prove to me the parent that you are actually teaching my kid anything? instead of just doing bare min babysitting...
@@117Ender maybe you should know your kid, and teach them what you find they are missing. A grade on a test is a poor metric for performance, and a grade in the typical public school class is typically more of a sign of obedience and subservience rather than intelligence.
@@117Ender First, the parents start children off by loving reading and books. You do that by reading to them every night when they are very young. Then they learn to read properly. Then basic math, and the ability to do simple math problems in their head. That linked with critical thinking skills, leads to someone who loves learning itself. Which is exactly why the existing "educational" system doesn't do that.
i was rather turned off when i worked at a school and the vicehead said that they are teaching them to/for a certain low level.
no enthusiasm or care, just so-so
I am Russian. Lived first 30 years of my life in USSR, and the next 30 - in US. When Michael asked if people talking about wonders of communism made the guys consider violence - this sure rang a bell. Every time I hear another snotnose expound on the wonders of socialism or communism - which here in California is unfortunately far from a rare event - I feel that very need for violence Michael asked about. Usually telling myself something along the lines of 'it's not their fault that they don't know WTF they are talking about, they aren't bad kids, just ignorant and dumb' works best to calm down. 🙂
If - and only if - you feel comfortable sharing even small snippets of info on the reality of communism, with friends, neighbors, etc. that you can trust to not fly into a rage and start screaming woke rhetoric at you, please do. It's important to keep the truth alive, and it will continue to spread. Trust me - people LOVE to be able to say "Yeah, well I know a real person who lived through that and here's the reality of how that actually works out!"
It's not your responsibility or burden. You've been through enough. Just something to consider.
I'm thrilled you got out of that and sorry you had to endure it at all.
All the best to you :)
As a reformed socialist, you're exactly right. It's a religion that relies on ignorance to sustain itself.
What really broke me out of my red stupor was Thomas Sowell asking the simple question: "How much should a load of bread cost?"
Except for the fact that it IS their fault! They are self entitled scum who have never struggled for anything and want to talk about the struggle. I'm so SICK of these no nothings preaching what they think is best for everybody else. It's insufferable and it makes my blood boil!
Why are you still in California? You fool.
Do not confuse Socialism for Communism nor all shades of each. Capitalism is toxic as shit and crushes the average person, and is the reason we are looking at a rise in fascism on the Right and anarchists on the Left.
Socialism literally means the the PEOPLE control the means of production. That can be *DEMOCRATIC socialism*. The only true difference is that the Capitalist don't get to set policies that benefit the few, rather policies are set to benefit the populace. If it doesn't apply that goal, it isn't *really* socialist, it's just a name to sell a product.
As a Cuban who lived 20yrs under that regime when I was younger and suffered their oppression, I almost feel ill when American leftists tell me that they want the US to be like Cuba. That they call it wonderful or a marxist paradise when they don't know anything about except propaganda, probably the funniest comment I've ever got from an American lefty is that I was racist for being opposed to the Castro regime and that somehow I was evil for living in Miami and that my family were slave owners and that I was one LOL when I'm a black dude and slavery was abolished in Cuba in the 1800s. You can't have an argument with these people, they're completely crazy and believe their own made up BS.
If you’ve ever watched “The Killing Fields”, that was the journey my parents had to take. We watched that film quite a few times, with my parents reiterating that such atrocities were quite real.
That was my warning as a child. As an adult, I’m seeing those atrocities begin to seep into American society. We fled to the US in the 70s to escape the madness, and the madness has now spread through the US.
Yet each time I warn people, they disbelieve. That’s where we’re at.
We have to get people to start speaking up about this and focusing less on the effects. People are so caught up in what's happening that they are missing why it's happening and how much danger we are in. Thank you for commenting this and please continue to warn people, even if some won't understand
I've read my history, I'm in there talking about it too. Don't give up, we need you.
@@jefftheriault3914same here, and I look sometimes pretty pathetic, but I made this my duty to share my story and maybe that will start to observe things around
Starting?
Anyone who let them in met the same fate.
Let's just say the good guys lost WWII and most of what you thought you knew about them was absolute nonsense.
Crap has to fall on peoples head before they will admit shit exists. 😂
I'm Polish. I finished The White Pill on February 24th, my 31st birthday, which means I was born when the ugly corpse of USSR was barely cooled. Yes, we are taught about the evils of communism, but this book was just on another level. I've never felt so moved by a non-fiction before. I felt super depressed while reading about the communist regime, but it was the stories of all those victories (slow, then sudden) that really made me cry. I've told the story about senior Germans digging their tunnel to freedom over a dozen times and my eyes still get wet when I think about it. Thank you for this book, Michael.
As an old man with some connections to pre and post war Germany, I appreciate your review, and you have convinced me to buy the book.
Poland is arguably one of the few beacons of western civilization and hopefully they never forget.
@@dcpack Poland is still today one of the most anti-Semitic nations of Europe. Is that what you mean by ‘beacon’?
Thank you for your valuable insights. I admire those from Cuba, Venezuela, North Korea and the former Iron Curtain-captive countries who tell us the truth. They know what socialism really is.
I live in eastern Germany and while a lot of people in the east are extremely sceptical of any totalitarian tendencies in the government, the people in the western part of the country seem to welcome those tendencies very much. The worst part is that no one is trying to listen or understand those in the east and their reasoning, listen to the parallels they see to the sowjet times. Our media just labels those people as uneducated, racist bigots. I'm from the western part of the country but I find it utterly disrespectful to what people in eastern Germany have been through.
I’m a millenial.
It is in equal parts shocking & horrifying how many in my generation in the UK PROUDLY call themselves Socialists, denounce ANYONE on the right as a far-right fascist, & will cut you off for not politically aligning with them.
I remind them of the USSR, Germany, Venezuela, North Korea, China … the list goes on.
Nope.
Nothing shifts them.
I’ve lost many friends & I do think, in part, it’s because my personality, values & ideologies shifted to being more centre-right.
My school was VERY left-leaning but, thankfully, my history AS-level teacher was very critical of Stalin and the Tsars (both doing awful things in their own ways).
almost all left wing people are very critical of stalin, obviously
@@xmathmanx Tbh this teacher was good, very objective in her approach, I could never tell her politics. Looking back actually she was pretty darn great as a teacher.
You could tell she loved history & respected critical analysis.
It’s odd isn’t it? I am Asian and live in a very Asian dominated suburb in Australia. What shocked me was.. there were communists’ propaganda flying all over the local shops and I’m kinda shook because I thought the mainlanders that migrated over would never ever want this kind of idealogy planted in a place of “freedom”! I’m not so naive to believe that there are zero “plants” but I’m just surprised the majority of them (aunties and uncles - ppl who have lived through more shit than the younger ones) are ok with it.
If people wonder why this has occurred IMO:
- Age (we know younger people are always more left-leaning)
- School, Malice has a point there FOR SURE.
- Linked to the previous point, many stay in uni to “avoid the real world & work as long as possible” so that could extend holding these ideologies in echo chambers unless they’re in a degree that depends upon critical analysis.
- The left’s call to “kindness” and “compassion”. The media plays a heavy role in this.
- Centrists, Libertarians and Conservatives having terrible PR 😅 It’s just not seen as “fun”
- Linked to the above, not wanting responsibility or accountability.
On a podcast recently a young woman defined feminism as “getting to do what you want” … I think that summarises it well.
Having to work hard & earn your way isn’t what they want.
well of course your school isn't going to be very right-leaning/ultra-capitalist unless it was private? why would they vote for systems that wanted to shut them down and let you starve to death in a Mad Max way if they had the chance? There is a reason why Blake describes dark, satanic mills in the song Jerusalem, and it had nothing to do with the horrors of Stalin's socialism.
I’m used to seeing Michael Malice being sarcastic and joking. I think this is the first time I’ve seen him this sober and serious, and it was riveting. What a great conversation, I learned a lot.
I don’t like twitter Michael Malice but absolutely adore RUclips/podcast Michael Malice.
He's gas-lighting here.
@@hebber1961 "Gas-lighting" to describe someone's perceptual engine you disagree with brings as much information currency to a dialogue as shouting "Witchcraft!" at them does. Cheers.
That’s why I love to watch Michael on other podcasts, but I don’t watch his actual channel
@Malice His brand of trolling isn't to have fun, it's specifically to piss off the powers that be and their citizen lackeys who love to flex their bootlicking on you and are proud to display how well they can mimic their owners by using the same talking points, insults, and even manner of speaking. From inflection down to phrases like "You DO know that (blank) right?" or "Yeah this guy totally believes (horrible thing) is *checks notes* (insert strawman)". If it is grating to you then you should examine what about it specifically is grating to you, cuz the only people it should piss off are those who are programmed to be annoyed and angered by it. Not trying to dig at you, just trying to get you to understand, people who truly are not mentally enslaved by the corporate press in any way, are the ones who really appreciate Malice's brand of interacting with people who do not understand him or his ideals and refuse to try to understand. That's also why he gets aggressive and interrupts and shits on people in convos cuz while Malice is perfectly capable of sitting down with people who disagree with him, he is not going to let people misrepresent his ideals, and he is not going to play patty cake with disingenuous cretins that are no better than the enemy of the people, the corporate press. Like Malice says, the day the average journalist is treated the same as the average tobacco executive, is the day true progress is made.
What eliminates hope for me is that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE that I know has any concern about what is going on.
That’s true for me too. So much numbness and complacency all around while we’re losing our footing at an alarming pace.
Same here
People want a radical shift in the system, as the system has not been benefiting them for quite some time (for the younger generations, the system has never been beneficial to them). So it's not surprising that people aren't concerned. However, that shouldn't eliminate hope. People just want change, and if society makes good changes rather than bad changes it will still appease them.
Speaking as a cynic, here is my problem...
I cannot find a group of Americans who are educated enough about current affairs, or who are even willing to understand the problems facing us, that my default position is that we are screwed!
It's so strange. Biden bombed Syria today and nothing no otrage no ww3 is coming. When Trump killed that Iranian general everyone was freaking out. Dems just don't care
I was raised on family stories. Those stories effected how I could listen to the stories for hours. My folks' stories of being children during the Great Depression and the wars. My maternal grandmother was German raised in America. She spoke of Germany before during and after WWII. In the 1960's, my grandmother took me on errands around the San Francisco Bay area. She would translate and deliver letters from East Germany to relatives in the area. We would wait while she wrote a letter back to their families. She would often get gifts like loaf of bread or a roast. I remember one lady who showed me her tattooed number. In broken English mixed with Yiddish she told me that "they" took everything but they did not take her mind. She encouraged me to have a strong mind. I didn't really understand.
What I appreciate about Michael is that he cares a lot about the truth and isn't afraid to call people out.
Great to hear this conversation
yeah try pushing back with the slightest breeze of disagreement on twitter and see how false your assessment is. hell, try to build on his own words, but in a way he hasn't thought of. 100 bucks says he's got a top 5 longest block list for people who only block manually.
He literally acts like J6 was 9/11 and has said as much. The grifter can rot in hell for all i care. We dont need him in America, he can take his wothless self back to Poland.
The truth pill is the one to take.
it’s the inoculation against all that will kill us slowly; endless lies, eating away at us from the inside. The courage to just turn and face the truth breaks the chains … and the scales fall away … the truth will out!
All that is needed is the courage to face it.
So if we are no longer tempted by lies, we are walking away from temptation … ?? Lead me not in to temptation … the Lord Prayer give us the courage. It’s the very reason we have it…
Now is the time to live for goodness’ sake, for without it we are & have nothing.
We have a choice
As all should
I’m a high school history teacher from upstate NY: please know we’re not ALL left wing nut jobs trying to indoctrinate kids.
Critical thinking is the number one skill I try to help my students develop.
We just spent an entire month on the authoritarian regimes of the 20th century; not just the names and dates and people (basic history stuff), but the psychology of authoritarianism itself, and what gets people to buy into authoritarianism.
Hopefully I’ve done a good enough job that, as these kids grow up and enter the world, they will be able to recognize authoritarianism as it appears in their own lives.
Thank you! There's not enough doing that anymore.
Thank you for being on the front lines teaching the next generation. Perhaps you can assign Michael Malice’s book
History is a good vehicle for critical thinking skills, if you present opposing viewpoints,
Holy crap, a male teacher? In 2023? How have you survived the HR department??
Thank you! It gives me hope for the future to know there are still some truthful, logical teachers out there.
We all got a taste of the fear of being turned in by a neighbour or friend during Covid.
Yes. There was a period of time where we were finding job postings for "quarantine facilities" in Canada and the USA that gave us a very very bad feeling. I saw the people of my community in a new light as they publicly hoped for the suffocating deaths of those who chose not to be injected. It was scary. We didn't know if it would get worse and worse or die down. We don't know now if there is a part 2 coming.
The mayor of Longmont, CO (Boulder County) asked that an ordiance be drafted banning residents from the neighboring County (Weld) from being admitted to the Longmont UC Health hospital because Weld County wouldn't require all citizens to get the jab. Our newly reelected Governor, Jared Polis said, " You're either on the side of the virus or the side of Coloradoans...To undermine, with no real authority, the state's efforts to save lives ultimately amounts to dangerous free loading and jeopardizes lives."
@@Captain_MonsterFart I don't think there were any actual quarantine centers in the US.
Not in Florida
I had a couple of my best friends act shocked that I didn't take the vaccine. I'm a fireman I know way more about it then they do.
The real horror comes not when you realize the system can get worse, but that the system desires to get worse!
I am from Hungary and my great grandparents were also Kuláks, besides losing their land (weren't rich by any means just had some land and animals) my grand father also had to change his name not to be identified as a Kulák and have a future. My other grandparents (from my mothers side) lost a big portion of their land. Lands and possessions were taken and melted into the possessions of the government and then people worked for the government. Everyone had to be equal, but in reality, equality was more like everyone had to be equally poor. But this is just a small portion of what communism is and I am so glad you guys are talking about it. It completely blows my mind that westerners want to communism. I worked in a few western countries, but I had a coworker in the UK who flat out told me that she was a communist! I told her she does not know what she was talking about. Keep up the good work and keep educating the west about communism, it is scary what is going down.
ITS JUST that SOME people are more equal than others. Comrade.
My grandparents left Hungary in 1929 during the Great Depression. My paternal grandfather was a very strong tough guy and worked the coal mines in Nova Scotia and believe it or not saved enough money to purchase a farm in Hungary as my grandmother missed her family and wanted to return. They were going to return in 1948 after the war but the communists took everything. All his hard work just evaporated. They were much better off staying in Canada!
Funny you say they weren’t rich for owning animals and land. Compare to nowadays
It beggars belief, given the lessons the last century has taught us very very clearly, that society still has this fascination with socialism.
I agree but what was learned was never taught. And the survivors, who have tried to warn everyone about the road to "hell", are ignored.
@@audreyandlinCompany
They are ignored by authoritarian socialists.
Which is the majority of the media around the world.
Who are all leftists.
@@audreyandlinCompany Ignored like the Biblical prophets of old. Some folks have to learn the hard way.
All people have to do is read 1984 to want to stay lightyears away from "egalitarian" societies! Yet the fascination with Communism aka Socialism continues and has even escalated. Will never understand, although I've learnt in the last few years that some people actually enjoy authoritarianism, oppression, the breakdown of societal structures and suffering......
@audreylin3466 ... no one had to teach me that gulags are bad
Before the Berlin Wall fell a friend’s family sponsored a family from the Soviet Union. We live in a small town close to Austin, Texas. The immigrant man couldn’t believe our local grocery store wasn’t so well stocked unless “the officials must shop here”. So we took him to the poorest area in Austin, drove around so he could see the houses in the neighborhood and assure himself that there weren’t any probable elites shopping at the store. When we went in and the stock of everything matched the stock in our local store, he was shocked and stunned. The shelves were full, the produce was fresh, the floor was clean, and the people freely filling their baskets with whatever they wanted without rationing.
That was awhile ago, hey.
Socialism will work next time tho cmon man
Have you similarly housed a Ukraninan family?
westernes take so much for granted
@Sudenim s I can’t imagine what it would be like to not have food to give my family. I’m afraid I might turn into a tyrant too. I’m thankful for you finding your voice. Keep speaking and seeking truth.
Malice is legit the only famous person I’m glad moved to Texas.
Btw, you can thank my uncle Robert Conquest for the numbers on the Holodomor- no one believed him until Alexandr Solzhenitsyn asked to meet him immediately upon his release.
I grew up hearing about the horrors of the Soviet Union.
Unimaginable horrors
Your Uncle was irreplaceable. God bless him.
According to michael, the US government is equally evil to stalin's USSR during the holodomor. All states are equally evil in the imaginations of AnCaps
How come people are always like that, you say something, they don't believe you, and then don't even invite you for lunch anymore.
@@galear1 thank you. Unsung hero. Wrote Harvest of Sorrow (Metallica song about that), the Great Terror- was a spy.
Amazing person.
God Bless your heritage
I grew up during the Cold War in what is now the European Union, and I agree with him wholeheartedly, with a heavy heart. There was never a guarantee that it would all stop on a certain day, or in any year in the future. The day the Berlin Wall fell and was torn down by everyday people with hammers and their bare hands, all of us got to finally experience what it meant to be truly free to choose and make decisions. I still fill up with tears of joy, when I remember seeing the Wall come down, and family and friends were finally able to embrace each other.
Lot of good it did you, 33yrs later and Germany's an Orwellian socialist dystopia on the verge of economic collapse and Russia is thriving.
I have several blackpilled Facebook friends who once in a while make a statement of doom. I always shake a finger at them and give them some encouragement. I'll definitely read Michael's book.
What alarms the black-pilled among liberty lovers is that there are signs that are more pronounced than before of a blatant abandonment of reason, of a new target of racism, shamelessly pursued, that scores points among certain people who claim to be anti-racist, and a targeting of children in the race and gender "wars".
These issues have to be taken seriously, confronted, and defeated. And they can be. But many people who do take it seriously burn out over it. Also, many people do not have the skills or the temperament to fight unrelentingly and effectively. They, themselves feel impotent, and that makes for a sense that everything is hopeless.
They need to be offered ideas of how to participate in the fight according to their own stamina and talents.
The danger of the kind of cultural changes we've been seeing is that incremental destructive steps prepare people for a totalitarian end by getting people used to an ever creeping loss of liberties. A little arsenic at a time isn't so bad, until it is.
But giving up on liberty is not an acceptable option, and as long as we have the freedom to speak, we must do it fearlessly.
We also must continually hone our communication skills and emotional control.
Very well said. That describes this moment well. That's why I dislike dismissive arguments about how it is worse somewhere else.
Brilliantly said.
@@qmaube1 Thank you!
This dumpster fire of a banana republic doesn't deserve to be saved, the founder's would agree. I'm going to a country that I have faith in and have faith in the people and their future.
@@funkfarmer7125what country is that? I ask so I can follow you
I absolutely agree that our opponents in this "war" are not the evil geniuses many assume they are - the proof: just look at the absurd things they believe in; they have mediocre minds at best.
Another point Michael made that I agree with is that things can change fast, often very unexpectedly and just because things look bad now it doesn't mean things will not be completely different in the not too distant future. Finally, I can't stand defeatism - I get annoyed whenever I read a comment like "England's finished"; you're bound to lose if you give up when the fight's barely begun - if we all thought like that it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
No doubt you get annoyed, but it’s true. Only a completely different system of education, courts and civil service would even begin to slow down the damage to England, let alone halt or reverse the process. Facts are facts. You have a growing immigrant class that hates you, supported by the entire government and media apparatus. Half your country still supports unrestricted immigration and increased oppression of those who oppose it. Unmarried males from hostile countries are arriving by the thousands every week, aside from the official number of a million legal immigrants a year. The numbers of English willing to actually risk anything by open oppposition, let alone action, is tiny. How on your view is the enormous change going to happen?
I think that's the goal. Demoralization. They make you feel there's no way to win, so many will give up.
There are 2 replies to You comment that I am not able to view - could be a glitch or YouToube decided to shadow ban them. Non of the worst totalitarian monsters were some evil superhuman geniuses. And this is a banal point that things can always get better, but they can always can get worst too. I do not see how a banal truth like that can help except yea it is very important not to give to despair - but You do not need 56 min to tell a banal truth like that.
They themselves…authoritarian processers think they own us. There is a tiny percentage that are not affected.
As MM rightly says, cynicism is corrosive, but I'll add, to turn a blind eye to what's going on is cynicism too.
"Cute Authoritarianism", Ewan Morrison - well worth a read and leaving a comment.
My dad brought up and explained to me the nature, and trap, of paradigms when I was a teen. He was a great man, God rest his soul.
I live in Canada, and I, among many other Canadians, were forced to lose our incomes until who knows when, we were turned into second class citizens, and we were literally prisoners in our own country if we didn't take the jab, despite our personal health risks... I've been talking about how totalitarian our country became, and I had some lefties dismiss what I was saying like this type of treatment is not totalitarian and how I could not bring up totalitarian regimes that committed atrocities to so many people... But the Canadians that I met who fled communist China or the Soviet Union and other countries were talking about how this is far too similar to what they experienced and fled from. I mean, when you prevent someone from keeping their source of income, and you prevent them from receiving employment benefits because not taking the jab was listed as being off work due to "misconduct" how is that not totalitarian? Trudeau was trying to starve us out by cutting off our ability to have an income and preventing us from leaving the country... I don't know, if what we were forced to live through doesn't open more people's eyes, I don't know what will..
There is so much in this interview that I relate to... A lot of the tactics used by our government to force people into compliance by shutting the dissidents out was definitely influenced by soviet style tactics. It's actually a bit hard to listen to at times because it brings back many memories..
I've had the same warnings from people from those countries in the US. Commonly it's " this is how it starts". I'm going to take them seriously. Comparing what's going on currently to how bad it got in those countries is wrong. Warning that this is leading in that direction I don't believe is.
@@debanydoombringer1385 I agree, because people tend to dismiss the beginning stages and the warning signs, but I believe those are some of the most important parts to acknowledge. Otherwise, things go too far and at that point you're screwed.
I also truly believe that if it wasn't for our Freedom Convoy, we would be in a much worse position than we are now. The Freedom Convoy and the attention it brought to our country helped immensely. It also forced our opposition parties to start opposing Trudeau and force him to end some of the mandates and allow people to go back to work. Though our Healthcare workers who didn't get the jab still have not been allowed to get back to work..
You had the option not to get the vaccine.
@@wyleecoyotee4252 it was coercive at the time. If you didn't comply, you lose your source of income, cant access your employment insurance benefits, are shut out of society, almost entirely..
Did someone come to our door and force everyone to take it? No, not yet, but it was a huge concern and it very likely could have led to that because our Public Health wanted to force every single person to take it.
I have a genetic condition that puts me at huge risk of the jab, but my doctor wasnt even allowed to write me a letter of exemption because as she said, my "condition isn't listed as one of the government approved reasons" for her to write me an exemption. She could have lost her license if she chose to write me a letter anyway. The reasons listed for an exemption were if you could prove that you have a deadly allergy to one of the ingredients in the jab, or if you took a previous dose and almost died. Though some people were in that position and still could not get an exemption.
But sure, we were able not to get it. Just try to destroy our lives, psychology torture us for years, shut us out from society, prevent us from leaving the country, force our children to endure being shut out of society, sports, and get shunned by those around them, including friends... plus so much more. And as the PM of the country, insult us and dehumanize us, calling us racists, homophobes, etc for not complying, then publicly ask if they should tolerate these people. You know who said that before things escalated and led to a genocide?
@Krisa
You do realize that Covid was at it's highest mortality just before they started with the first vaccinations. Only after the first doses were issued did infections and deaths decrease. Are you in denial of these facts?
I worked as a healthcare professional through the pandemic and had no issue with the vaccines or boosters. Most employees got the vaccine. Only a small percentage didn't even after the extended grace period. It was a choice.
I'm sorry your condition wasn't on the list. They didn't want people taking advantage of exemptions.
My grandparents emigrated from Italy to Venezuela in 1949. They were destitute on arrival, but, like the many Italians and others there, built a life for themselves through hard work and dedication. They had bakeries, pizza shops, diamond cutting labs, and a law firm. The photos from Maracaibo of my mom in the 1960s and 70s, shows a Venezuela full of construction cranes, cars, parks, families living happily, no weird racial or social tensions, and it looked vibrant and alive.
By the time Chavez was in office for a year, my families businesses, homes, bank accounts and passports were seized. They were deemed, after almost half a century, as unwelcomed bourgeoisie, and had all their work disintegrated within about a year or so. Gangs of uniformed men would go door-to-door in affluent neighborhoods to literally sack them.
The notion of forced equality inevitably requires theft from those who worked for what they have, and gifts to those that have no merit for them. I will forever be against any sort of notion of equality as policy, as my family has had to escape it, twice. I'll be damned if it'll happen to me, here.
Michael does give me hope when he talks about these things, which I appreciate so much. I'm Canadian and right now things are not good, my doctor is closing her practice, I have a 1 year old, and the list to get a new doctor is literally years long. Without a GP you cannot get tests ordered, the clinics are basically places to get antibiotics, if you want to get a test done you have to wait at the ER for 18+ hours. I say all of this only because I'm feeling more and more angry toward my own country, it doesn't feel like we are a first world country, and it feels like we are crumbling.
I have a friend who has post surgical complications, they drove her around to 4 different hospitals before one would take her while she's potentially bleeding to death in the ambulance. 3+ hours. They couldn't call ahead?
We desperately need more options for health care. Our government is too corrupt and incompetent to handle the system the way it is. You can throw all the money you want at it, it's not going to fix it. Go ahead and build 2 new hospitals, good luck finding the people to work there.
We have too many immigrants, our system can't handle the strain anymore.
Crumbling indeed. Canada is a shell of its former self. Born and raised. I had to leave.
I wish more Americans understood this. Twenty years ago we had a friend coming down from Canada because he wanted his father to get an operation to remove cancer and would have to wait six months in the Canadian system. He lamented how fortunate he was to have the money to do so. Twenty years ago. Now this. There were doctors losing their licenses just two years ago here because they wanted to treat their patients with a Nobel winning wonder drug that wasn't the vaccine. Things can get a hell of a lot worse. Remember when Mengele was considered the personification of evil? Now our current regime has convinced parents to be the cruel experimenters in their children. Okay, I'm spinning over here-enough.
I have loved Malice’s No Korea book! Now I just ordered this new one. I’m amazed at the lack of reading, especially history among younger generations. I’m 73 and have been passionately opposed to any form of totalitarianism since at least 13. I read as a teen 1984, The Gulag Archipelago, The rise and fall of the third Reich, Several by Ayn Rand and more.
I've just finished reading 1984 for the first time. I know it's a cliche to say that every bleak situation is just like 1984. But honestly, if you read it you'll realise that that book was not fiction. It was a premonition. And a lot of the seeds of dystopia that that book talks about, is being sowed with gleeful abandon in todays modern progressive society. Please be forewarned and read that damn book. I'm a fast reader, like 200,000 words a day fast. 1984 is 89,000 words and it took me three weeks finally get to finishing it because 1.) it's so bleak and 2.) it's a very real reflection of the end point to all of the progressive bullshit that were being forced to comply with. Read 1984.
I first read it as a teenager and I enjoyed the story but it didn't impact me in the same way as when I re-read it recently. It's mind blowing how many things he predicted would happen.
A couple of weeks ago I got talking to a guy who was reading it for the first time and he was at the end of the book and struggling with the bleakness near the end. It's certainly not a feel good story.
I first read it in the year 1984.
@@TheLadyDelirium It was the same for me, in the 80s it still seemed farfetched, today it does not.
After 1984, read Brave New World.
@@jeradkiester698 I plan to, but I'm going to hold off on reading bleak books one after the other, maybe interperse some hopeful books in between before diving back into dystopian novels.
I'm a Sri Lankan. Our country (or island lol) used to be socialist in the 70s which made out country suffer terribly. Education was bust, networks was bust, new technology was rejected, homelessness was rampant. It was an absolute wasteland in the 70s and my grandparents still say stories about this in an explicit manner, and when I try to show this to a socialist I'm simply dismissed as being 'ignorant' or 'bigoted' or 'brainwashed.'
What I've learned for my very limited experience on such matters in the past, was going up against people who not only believe they're right, but have utter contempt for anyone who doesn't agree with them, and thus feel entirely justified in not only not debating anyone who doesn't agree with them, but being ruthless in their pursuit of crushing those who challenge them into silence. They believe they don't have to explain or justify anything. They are right, and that's all there is to it. Agree or be silenced. I've since come to understand this is tyrannical thinking.
My daughter has four kids in an elementary school in California. She got an intradistrict transfer for them as the school closest to her house has lower test, scores, etc.. Recently her fourth grade son told her that the teacher had read the book “It Feels Good to be Yourself” to the class. He was very confused by it, and my daughter was very unhappy that this had been introduced to the class. The book suggests that you (the child reading it) might be transgender too. My daughter spoke to the principal about it, and was told that she was the first parent to complain and that she (the principal) had not read the book. About a month later my daughter receives a letter stating that due to absences, her kids might lose their transfer. The letter stated you have to have a much higher attendance percentage, when you are attending by transfer. My daughter spoke with her oldest child’s teacher, who was very surprised and said she felt like her attendance was fine. She has been going to that school since kindergarten. My daughter and her husband are feeling like this is probably due to their complaint about this book. Things like this are happening and I don’t understand why he says in this video that it is wrong to say “that’s like communism” or something like that. It’s a slippery slope. When are you allowed to say something like that? Do you want to just wait until we are full-blown Russia? I agreed with a lot of things he said, but I just don’t get this.
I agree Michael can be kinda blind bc he’s comparing the US to communism. It’s just a matter of degree, certainly a slippery slope.
Yes, I had the same thought/ feeling. It sounded dismissive of our concerns
Thank you for introducing Michael Malice to me. Just ordered his book to study with my teen kids. Should knock any communist delusions out of them.
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You're my kind of parent, I did exactly the same thing with my daughter!
Ha, same 😂
God willing.
Don't bet on that. Indoctrination is very powerful
This is a great conversation.
I remember as a kid my dad managed an exhibition of Soviet space exploration in Britain and thorough that made some great Russian friends. The up-shot was we as a family played host to some of the organisers on the Soviet side. Now, we lived in the suburbs of a large English city. We were not rich. We were not overtly political as a family.
There's a moment that made an indelible mark on me. Shortly after the first guest we had arrived we took her along to do the weekly grocery shop. Bear in mind this is a provincial High Street in the 1980s. Our Russian guest was awed by the the amount of food and the choice of food available. She was clearly moved.
The last stop was the butcher's shop at the end of the High Street. She stood outside the shop-front window looking in crying her heart out at the abundance of food available to everyone. That moment, as a child, communicated to me all I needed to know about the abject failure of the Soviet project.
So as discussed in the video, until you have experienced the impact of life behind the iron curtain from a person who lived it, then you can never truly understand the reality of having nothing and being lied to about how great that is. Even if it's something as basic (and perhaps in some ways as superficial) as being chronically hungry and the psychological damage that does. I shudder to imagine living the deeper horrors of such an actually oppressive (compared with the snowflake version in the West), tyrannical regime such as the USSR really was.
Excellent comment, thank you!
They'll argue that we don't need that much food. Standing in line for sausages is environmentally conscious.
@@hufficag The Great Reset, with the now famous quote from its author Schwab, "You will own nothing and be happy," has the hallmark of a communist dystopia on a global scale.
And many people who never went hungry in their lives want to live in a socialist state
but there are plenty of British people that cannot afford that abundant food in the shops...bit soon to to be patting ourselves on the back about how perfect our system is... its fine of you have cash to buy that food
...like Soviet Russia if you dont
It's always great to hear from Michael Malice.
You're swallowing the narrative of the tribe. Seek Christ.
@@j.knight9335 good bait
@@brettpid6416 Just the truth. They don't care about you, or your family. They reject Christ and hate those who love Him.
Couldn't agree more. One of those rare intellectuals that can make me feel optimistic about the future and splash some water in my sometimes cynical face.
@@sHaNeR766 Oh boy..
My grandfather was a prisoner in Siberia for 4 years (1945-1949) , we talk about a Romanian willage,and his story's about those days was terrible and I still don't understand how he survived
Here's the thing about Michael,and I want to preface this with the fact that I love him and own all of his books. He doesn't understand the rural mindset, and more specifically he doesn't understand the southern and western rural American mindset. He moved to Austin, but that is really not the real Texas and he won't understand until he gets in touch with us.
He has no clue how hard it is to live outside of the cities. The small, rural towns that comprise the majority of what you call the "flyover states" are the only thing keeping this country from slipping into full authoritarianism. You can live in your cities with your virtue signaling and blinders on, and still survive. FOR NOW. You touched on the Kulaks, but didn't comprehend the misery associated forevermore with that tag. We have serious fears out here in the country about what you are allowing to happen in the city, honestly it's the reason the majority of us don't want to live there.
Both in Russia and in China, they starved the farmers.
Are we expecting it to be different in the US?
"Russians Hungry, But Not Starving" sounds a lot like "Fiery But Mostly Peaceful."
Russia is actually doing just fine under sanctions. They've been sanction proofing their country since 2012. They have massive stores of gold which if we all remember is what money used to be based on. Russia being kicked out of SWIFT allowed them to get off the petro dollar - the same petro dollar that's worth less and less by the day. Because as it turns out when you just continue to print money it's worth less and less. Scarcity. Basic economics. Etc. The US dollar is the reserve currency of the world - yet the US dollar is collapsing. Russia getting kicked out of swift just spared them the economic pain the rest of the world that depends on the dollar is about to see. US banks are failing if you havent noticed. Inflation is at a 40 year high.
Tribalism and hating whoever your TV tells you too is a big part of why the world currently looks as it does.
I love how Konstantin's resting facial expression looks like he's holding in laughter and about to burst at any moment.
That is a perfect description of him 😆
Well, he is a comedian by trade.
My Polish cousin is the same. Perhaps it's a Slavic thing..? :-)
@@drwhatson he's a Jew, or at least not a full Slav.
I think is that cynic inside of him being held back, fortunately. 😂
Im so happy you guys and Micheal Malice exist today, my god how the world needs you people right now .!
I am Ukrainian, and I am so grateful for this interview
I get Michael's point about us being able to turn woke ideology off by reading a chosen book, listening to music or watching sports. But it only goes so far. Woke ideology creeps in nearly everywhere, and to avoid it for even just a whole day takes, if not considerable gymnastics, at least not doing a lot of things you would otherwise. It is insidiously taking over _everything,_ let's face up to that.
Yes, I'm not sure why he doesn't understand that. He dismisses the situation today in the West as nothing compared to the atrocities of the 20th century, which is true, but he doesn't seem to quite get the insidious psychology of totalitarianism, what some have called 'soft' totalitarianism. I think it's because as an anarchist he's got bigger fish to fry, like getting rid of the education system altogether.
a shameless plug for a channel that showed that the big H guy might have been the first "woke" guy.
its the ever evolving socialism, just another take on it, now its not class but "gender", intersectionality etc etc
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@@aranisles8292 He understands it too well. His point is most people in the West cannot comprehend what total 1984 is. As having similar background as him, I can relate.
This sounds a bit like how I was raised....My stepfather was a physically violent alcoholic..he would go off at any moment. I lived in constant fear..even when I would be asleep he would come in and begin to yell and sometimes more. From the age of 8 to 16 I was in hell. I have been diagnosed with PTSD and manic depression.. I am now 51 years old and I still have a hard time around people. I can relate to his description to an authoritarian regime to an extent but on a smaller scale.
I feel so sad for all the children locked in with nutjobs like this
Yes. Similar here. I say in my head “wow these people who want authoritarianism did not have authoritarian violent parents”.
I am so sorry
I suffered under my father. Everyday. I should have ran away at 14 instead of 17.
Good luck to you. The way of this world is difficult. Almost everyone gaslights our reality. The few who have it made never could understand the lives of the many. They speak about us as if we are unnecessary.
@elektromanyaro thank you for your response..I felt the similarities were astonishing. Sharing our experiences with those who never went through this is a route to healing. Peace and healing to you as well.
@@artandculture5262 agreed...I think most of the people who want this style of government have never had to work and believe its an easy way out of responsibility.
Malice is truly unique. Great collab!
This type of info must be spread far and wide. The general masses must know where this leads and how bad it can get. If this were happening prior to the internet, I’d be black pilled. But the internet even with its censorship is still getting the info out there. Hell we’re listening to former New Yorker on a UK podcast while I’m sitting in the pnw. I’m optimistic for the future
About 2/3 of the way through, systems and paradigms were mentioned and how so many people get caught up in believing in them, and not allowing their brains to think outside the box. That really summed it up for me. I really appreciate Michael Malce's intellectualism as well as these two guys in TRIGGERnometry. Also, the discussions of negativity and cynics, and how we must not allow ourselves to fall into that. After only listening to two or three of this channels programs, I am a big fan and I will be ordering Michael 's new book. Probably several copies. So I can give them to friends that I believe may read them and actually learn something from his work.
Discovered Malice back around 2015 on The Tom Woods Show, the very failed podcaster. Found Triggernometry around the time of the pandemic. Them together is a Christmas present! Love from Australia.
Lol poor tom woods. Im a fan of his failed pod cast too
Large parts of the left have never been very keen on exposing the history of communism. Not least because there were clearly ideological ties. And I remember socialists (not communists) arguing that the soviet or chinese systems despite having their flaws were aiming at the correct goals. I also met at lot of socialists who flatly denied the imperialistic character of the Sovietunion because in their view socialism or communism could simply not be imperialistic by definition..
yeah, you knew some dumb cunts, but that does not mean that left wing ideas are all bad
Back in the 80's Bernie Sanders was extolling the virtues of the USSR and Cuba. Intellectual dishonesty from the progressive/communist/socialist sphere knows no bounds.
@@hattorihanzo2275 that is a deeply dishonest statement, how ironic
100% support to all 3 of them, voices of reason during unreasonable times.
I love listening to Michael Malice - intelligent conversation - speech. Researching and challenging us with his books. This is education.
I'll never forget a college professor of mine explaining to a 70 year old Cuban man why he was wrong about Socialism.
It forever disturbs and perplexes me how so much of the Western population are somehow massively naive to how lucky we've been and how bad things can get if we keep heading down the road of "Cancel Culture". Don't they watch movies? That's all I've ever needed as a good supplement to viewing States in context of time and ideals.
@D M. Yes there is a lot of ignorance in tge free world. Search RUclips where people are asked to locate the U.S. or any other country on a map. Also they are asked what the Civil War was about or who was president then. In the tearing down of Civil War statues a few years back, Lincoln's statue was torn down. I suppose they just figured he was an old historic guy and thus needed "cancelling".
These naive people should spend a few days visiting North Korea, but then they would have "minders" steering them around.
They bought into the Skaven propaganda, unfortunately.
I listen to his podcast and have seen him as a guest on many podcasts but never read any of his books. He's an awesome writer and this is a powerful sobering book of relatively recent history which people have already forgot but shouldn't!
So dang good! I am so thankful to have witnessed this conversation. Thanks dudes!
Great interview. I remember when Yelzen visited Houston, where I grew up. He was astounded by the choices and quality of food etc.
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Probably your BEST podcast! BRAVO! ❤❤❤ "If we don't remember history, we are doomed to repeat it"
I was a student at Vanderbilt in Nashville in the 1970s and for some inexplicable reason there was a Soviet consumer electronics exhibit in town. (It seems so random now--in Nashville!?!) Today I'm impressed there were any consumer electronics from the USSR but being ignorant then, we just assumed everyone had the same things we had, so this stuff had to be their vintage stuff, historic. When we learned it was state of the art USSR, we experienced pure cognitive dissonance. Nearly vertigo. This sad stuff was meant to...what? Impress us? We were aghast. European stuff was strange but generally recognizable and had some panache. This stuff was pitiful. It filled us with disbelief. And pity. Perhaps youthful ignorance is no more vast today than it was then. Mr Malice is doing us all a great service.
I would guess The Soviets weren't putting up their state of the art stuff on display. They were probably using it as an excuse to see our state of the art electronics.
Many thanks - this channel is always insightful.
I cannot be confident about where the line between skepticism and cynicism is, and I am certainly both skeptical and cynical about much of the so-called positively spun political stories I hear and read, but Michael does have a very good point about cynicism. I also think his point that training people not to expect, and therefore not to bother working towards, a better life is a very strong point. It reminds me a bit of the idea of newspeak. If people are not talking about something, they are almost certainly thinking much less about it.
Thank you all.
I grew up in Communistic Poland for the first 15 years of my life, and its a soul crushing life. You have no idea what it means to live in society where there is no hope. I was beaten by Zomo special Police, when I was 13 years old. This Police force was used for riots and its members would receive injection of what was called "Stupid John", which made you insensitive to other humans suffering. Under its influence Zomo police men were capable of killing their own parents if it served the system. Its not what you want int he west, let me assure you.
During Glastnost, the US had a pilot swap program with the Soviets. Our company makes F-15’s and F-18s. My buddy was an escort to one of the Soviet pilots and took him to a super market. He couldn’t believe that it wasn’t a government store. So my friend takes him to a phone book, pulls out the yellow pages and said, pick another one. They go there and it’s the same. A place of bounty.
Malice nailed it: the challenge ahead is dealing with the "Academy". Thanks for another interesting interview!
I never actually thought I'd miss the Cold War, but as far as the west was concerned, the obvious looming danger of the Soviet empire created a disciplined and organised reaction in the west which made life a hell of a lot better in terms of individual liberty than under the Maoist Red Guard bullying that's going on today.
I often feel the same way. It was easier in a way to figure out how to survive a nuclear apocalypse, believing our own government was on our side, then today where our supposedly democratically elected seem to hate us.
Your voices are a light in the darkness we are being cloaked in. You have been there and understand what is happening and just how bad things are going to get if we don't change course.
Michael is always a good listen.
Great show
Hey Guys, this is certainly one of your best analysis and actually I found it inspiring. Just started reading the The Gulag Archipelago to better understand what "bad" really is/was!! I also TOTALLY agree with not letting the present narrative change my being a "good citizen" and a good person.
I have not watched these guys in a while, I forgot how funny and fantastic they are!-
great podcast!~
I get the argument that we don’t live in a country as bad as nazi Germany or the USSR but it feels as if we’re in a 1933 moment
I agree completely, from Australia
I agree completely, from Germany
A:"Things can't get worse!"
B: "Oh, yes they can."
“Michael Malice is one of the most puzzling twenty-first century Americans I have ever met.”
-Harvey Pekar
Love you guys!
Brilliant content and guests. Francis's laugh is so contagious.🙏
I remember in the 50's my family kneeling on the floor daily, to pray the rosary and it was frequently dedicated to the Berlin Wall coming down. Also many masses at church were dedicated to the same request.
I think you have your dates off. The Berlin wall wasn't built until the 1960s.
@@jamesalexander8872 I think you’re right. I thought I was around 8 or 9 when we were doing that but my oldest sister who is 92 thinks I would have been more like 12 or 13. When I was 8 or 9 we were praying for Communism to fall. My bad.
@@Anastasia91000 I don't blame you! That was a long time ago. I wasn't even born until 1978. It was probably the 60s. I think the wall was built in 1961. I remember it coming down in 1989. We still had " duck and cover " drills in school in the 1980s. The wall did come down so your family's prayers were answered! We still need to keep praying today though!
Excellent interview boys
Keep up the great work 🕊
Have so many books to buy ……
I think it was Angelo Codevilla who said that when he visited the USSR in the 1980s you could tell who was connected directly to the Communist Party because they had access to good food, oranges, bananas, etc. They were the generals and the people at the top. He said they looked like Americans. But as you moved down the classes and got further away from power, you could tell they looked worse, paler, thinner, greyer. Ironically, a totally class society, in a society that was trying to get beyond classes! When Roger Scruton visited Poland at about the same time, he visited a Polish couple. They were so poor they would only offer their guests an onion.
I love that Michael said "It's not a tragedy it's an atrocity."
Words are important
Schooling has always been to “make good citizens,” as Michael said. But we do not always see good citizens as docile sheep accepting an elite narrative. For many teachers (I was one) a good citizens is widely read, well-informed, armed with critical thinking skills and an inquiring mind. Now that so many schools have become indoctrination mills, these values can be hard to see. But some teachers do continue quietly to do actual teaching.
He is just another mouthpiece for those indoctrinations, demonizing the “enemy”.
I feel we all had a small taste of this with the lockdowns and now the attack on free speech and praying etc. People have been terrorized by our own government for the past 3 years afraid of losing their jobs and having to take part in a medical experiment while being ostracized by their friends. However the Dutch farmers have just won the majority in their Parliament so good things do happen too.
No,not a majority,they are just the biggest party now. They got 16 out of 72 seats in our "senate". But the leading coalition lost the majority and will have to make deals with some new parties,not necessarily Farmers Party. And Farmers Party can not make big enough coalition to rule without some of the "WEF" parties. And those were municipal elections,not a big deal.
I'm from Romania and I'm old enough to know how things were in Ceaușescu 's times...
I lived and worked in Cambodia from 1998 to 2017. I married my Cambodian wife in 2002. She was in her 50s then and suffered through Pol Pot/Khmer Rouge.
Her story makes people cry.
Michael, people upset about Bloomberg's soda ban wasn't unjustified. We should balk at and push back on stuff like that. Americans get a whiff of any of type of authoritarianism and we sniff it out. Because we're not used to it. And we don't want it to turn into something worse. Michael acts as if the people's reaction was overblown. Nobody compared it to Venezuela or North Korea.
He's an anarchist and most of his actions are those of a trojan horse. Happy he's in Texas so he can help ruin that state just like his ilk ruined New York and so many other places.
You’re absolutely right. I remember Bloomberg thought people’s everyday choices had to be monitored for their own good. A real Nanny state type.
i would love to see Giles Udy back on again, reading his book right now and its utterly unimaginable and people need to hear about it far more often!!
Exactly right, Michael, about academia. Those who can’t do, teach!
I have friends who fled Czechoslovakia when the Soviets sent in the tanks August 20, 1968.
Today they have real concerns now as an entire generation who has not experienced socialism is embracing what their grandparents fought to overcome.
Glad I found this channel. Amazing interviews.
I don't see a white pill. "Here's where the authoritarian trend goes, it's way worse than you thought."
I get that he's saying "we're not there yet, so be happy things aren't so bad", but a real white pill would be reasons to believe the trend won't continue.
He gave them. The trust in media is gone, the trust in politicians is going, now it's the trust in the intellectuals that needs to go. Without trust and people listening to them, they lose any real power.
Many people born in the developed world after fiat currency arrived and the sexual revolution and irreligiousity went mainstream are adrift. The times haven't been hard though. They've been a gradual incremental comfortable slide.
If we stray further off track - more control, less freedom, more skewed wealth distribution and so on, resistance will increase. The attempts to suppress it will make some scared, but others angry. Every action ultimately has an equal and opposite reaction, eventually.
The old adage applies - hard men make good times, good times make soft men, soft men make hard times.
Then comes the real test. Are you, as a soft man raised at the end of the good times, going to remain a soft man who looks at what once was and is slipping away with sadness and weeps, and then shrugs his shoulders and gives up... or are you going to take the hard road to lead others back?
@@robw7676 Ohhhh i hate that question! I hardly know where to begin to lead others when they refuse to hear.
it seems a mistake to label these things 'evil', not because they arent, but because in a lot of people they dont understand how that evil manifests... in other words, the people prosecuting and supporting this evil, were, for the most part not actually evil themselves, and did not actually consider what they were doing as evil. they had good intentions. an important part of that, is that they labeled THEIR enemies as evil, and they themselves were convinced their opponents were evil, and that is key, because if someone thinks something is evil, then there are no longer any barriers as to what actions are acceptable... I see this now, with the left, painting anyone they disagree with as evil... they are making the first step towards rationalizing atrocities. dehumanize the enemy. anything we do is ok, because we are good, and our enemies are evil....
I know Michael minimizes the small things the right calls authoritarianism but that is how it starts. If we can't identify and stop the small stuff we'll never be able to stop it when it really starts.
Exactly. The entire point of our reaction to cancel culture is we know it's trending towards that next layer. The entire point is to stop it.
Agreed. Good point.
45:46 damn man ya know what youre right...even shit i had a hard time getting theough i got through...damn man...thanks for that little boost in confidence
Excellent show in my view this is the kind of discussion we all need to having and the fact that some wish to block or make illegal such discussions tells us who and what they are! To stay positive is to stay free!
Well done CHAPS....keep going strong 👏👏🇬🇧🇬🇧
"In the 1970's Britain was considered a bit of a joke, I don't think people are saying that today"
Not too aware of modern British politics or the position Britain is currently in, is he.
Loved this. Found the part about cynicism very interesting. Much to reflect on.
But the thing is, I think many of us do in fact, "understand how bad things can get.". Because Michael & Triggernometry duo, we also have read, and are able to comprehend history. Many of us have talked to people from communist or fascist countries where tyranny came about in the name of, "common good over the good of the individual". We know the horrors the come from any attempts to force uniformity. Some of us are aware of the writings of past Soviets in the past, and the book the 'Gulag Archipelago'. The writer of those personal first hand accounts of the atrocities of communism in practice, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, famously & in his 1978 book with pinpoint precision, accurately described the process in how the deterioration of a free society into a communist hellscape takes place & comes about & I quote, "Liberalism was inevitably replaced by radicalism, radicalism had to surrender to socialism, and socialism could never resist communism. And if we take the next step to it's logical conclusion, communists in power can never resist tyranny. Which is why most of us understand by our 20s that while socialism in theory seems moral, in practice it is immoral & rotten to its core.
I respect the hell outta Malice. But in this appearance with Triggernometry I just feel like he's acting as if many of us in the audience are naive. Like we don't understand how bad it can truly get. And it's frustrating because it's so dishonest. Yes we do!!! We just don't wanna wait til it gets to full blown tyrannical state level madness. So yes, some might use hyperbole & say things like this is like 1984. But it's hyperbole. But we understand these things don't happen ova night. That there is process. And right now is only the beginning. The US isn't immune from tyrannical monsters taking hold. Do we want to be free or not. Because every decade the list grows longer & longer of things we can't do, things we can't say, etc. in the name of safety & saving hurt feelings. Enough with this DEI & identity politics BS, enough of heaping you're own unattainable virtues unto others(which used to be the issue with the right & still can be in future if peeps aren't careful who they elect). Radicals on either side are clearly not good. But at least in 2023, it's clear far more danger is coming from left & it's not even close. These are the slave owners in past. We know this cuz of how ok they are with racism as long as it's towards whites. These white leftists are quite literally the blacks in the 1700s who would sell out own race for a seat in the house & some perceived benefits & power. And black leftists are showing that they would've acted the same way & not only been slave owners but treated the slaves disgustingly. Theyve shown their true colors & it's not debatable. Proof is in their words/actions. We need to embrace individualality & just try our damndest to enforce equal opportunity under the law & hold onto the freedoms we have left that we haven't sold out. And make the best of life with what we can.
"Human beings are born with different capacities. If they are free, they are not equal. And if they are equal, they are not free" ~ Solzhenitsyn ~
Thank you for this.
My family escaped Albania at the end of WW2. Other family members were not so fortunate. I had one cousin executed for writing a sad poem. You can't be sad in a Marxist utopia, you see? Two other cousins were sent to concentration camp for being related to us. One cousin was released after many years. We still haven't found the remains of the other cousin.
We can all see half the country will support anything, including their demise.
I was in Northern Germany as an exchange student in 1983. On the train heading north, we went by the densely forrested border with East Germany: guard towers on every hill top and two barbed wire fences lining the borders with 100 yards of open mined area between containing anti tank barriers. Quite an eye opener!
My husband and family were stationed in West Germany during the late 80s and early 90s. We took trips into free Berlin, exercising our right of transit from West Germany through East Germany into the allied section of Berlin. Then we’d travel into occupied Berlin. What an eye opener. Unless you are around totalitarianism, you can’t even understand.
We always breathed easier when we were back in West Germany.
We were also there for the fall of the wall. What an incredible time.
@@naydee - My wife and I were newly married when the Berlin Wall fell. We both cried tears of joy watching people tear it down. At the dinner table several years later as my wife and I were discussing the wall, my 8-yr old daughter asked, “What’s the Berlin Wall?” At the time, I loved that communism was so defeated that she didn’t know about the Berlin Wall. Now, I’m worried… because so many of our young romanticize communism.
The problem in the US is that after 1990 we stopped discusing it here. School kids here barely even heard of it. Like it never happened. Germany did everything to smooth over E. Germany's return and Eastern Bloc nations were busy trying to create functional societies again. Since only military personnel spending months on end on alerts in W. Germany even caught a glipse of what the threat was. The rest was theater and politics. Only those like you that lived through it understand, but honestly, almost no one spoke up. Even if it happened, the government and media didn't want to upset the new regimes. Sadly, the new regimes were essentially the old regimes. The cycle starts again. I'm amazed how politicians and citizens alike who are old enough to remember the Bider Mienhoff gange, riots in Germany over Pershing Missles and the justifiable fear of MAD simply ignore the lessons. It's like people truely learned nothing in those 40+ years.
Malice's central point seems to be that people shouldn't be black-pilled because there are examples of things being worse before, but you could say that about almost anything.
I'd like a solid reason for hope beyond just saying 'this too shall pass'.
There are a lot of us and we all want freedom. And the number of enlightened people increases daily.
We will fight and win
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The last few years have been an object lesson in how few people actually care about their own freedoms. Saying it doesn't make it so.
He regularly says there is no guarantee that freedom will win, but being black pilled doesn't help anything.
Look at the people leading and calling for things in the US, they aren't some formidable oppenent that can't be beat. They're a joke most of the time. It doesn't take the whole nation to change things as well, most people aren't going to notice or care. It only takes a small amount of dedicated people. You're here, I'm here, that's something. Signals are going out. We can very well lose, but I'm not going to let them black pill me though, fuck them.
There is no reason.
For one he is ideolog and see all thru his ideology.
Second I think that he doesn't want to think about horrible things that will happen when system collapses. Normalcy bias.
@@piureczko
It does come off that way, but I thought Malice would make a better argument than that.
nice dig at tim "civil war is here, quit your job or you are not as ethical as me" pool.
But, in all fairness aren't we all headed back to this horror!