6.20a.m. on Saturday morning and I'm watching a tutorial on how to calculate paint weight! I need to get a life! Seriously, another one of your excellent tutorials which always show a better way to do things than I would ever have thought up on my own. Thanks Neil.
Soz - reuploaded to fix an error, nothing new in here if you've already watched it! BTW the paint I'm referring to is pretty thick paint used for subsea vehicles, obviously normal commercial/domestic paint isn't 3mm thick but you can still use this technique for it and use a thinner shell. Or you can use this technique for other types of coatings. Further update - I'll show a photo of the paint as a few people are doubting that paint can be that thick, I'll post what it is next week.
Hi Neil, I work in a design team creating sewage treatment plants for cruise ships. Biggest I worked on was 9 metres square and 3 metres high with a base frame and both internal & external structure. The material was steel so a lot of paint was needed. This is a very interesting topic and if I ever get a bit of free time I'll give it a go on a current project. Your tutorials are superb. Thanks again. Jim
That's an awesome video! I design pressure vessels, which are mostly painted. This is a definitely help. Not just for weight of paint, but also for determining volume of paint needed for a particular job! Every time I watch your videos I think you should have a set of training courses. I really enjoy your delivery style and I get a lot from your videos. Thank you!
Thanks for all the great videos on inventor man! You propose a lot of great ideas and I appreciate the tips to help me get to the next level in modeling and design!
A standard paint coat of primer and finish is roundabout 120 microns/micrometers (0.12 mm) - a really thick coat for something like offshore use is roughly 250 to 400 microns. 3 mm are equal to 3000 microns - a paint coating of this thickness I have never heard of. You are a bit off in your assumptions of coat thicknesses here. Then again - with all your brilliant videos, you are more than entitled to a little error. Thanks for all your great videos. I watch and enjoy every single one. Keep 'em rolling!
Thanks. I literally held a sample of the peeled off paint in the office earlier today - it was measured at roughly 2.7mm thick, I'll find out exactly what it was and post an update next week.
Great video. A potential workaround to maintain adaptivity: I assume you needed to break the link in order to assign a material to the shrinkwrapped part? Inventor considers shrinkwrapped parts to be substitutes for their parent assemblies. Materials and physical properties may not be assigned, they are inherited from the parent assembly. To get around this, derive a second part from the shrinkwrapped part and proceed with the shell etc.
I think I know why It is that heavy, and is maybe because 1 mill is not 1mm, the correct conversion is something like this 1 mill = 0.001 in = 0.0254 mm, mill is a measure of thickness generally for paint... Of course the method to calculate the weight is still awesome. I write this just for info.
Hang fire I'm going to report back on the type of paint used here, it really is 2-3mm thick I held a sample of it - it might be a mixture of paint and some kind of protective coating but I'm finding out the name of it and will report back.
Well you'd have to shrinkwrap an assembly into a part to isolate the painted surface area - so you might as well go the rest of the way and let the software do the calculations. But yes you could do it by hand. You could do a lot of stuff by hand instead of using technology to do it!
mryoutuser that method is more than good enough unless you're paint system is absolutely dialed in. The thickness is going to vary more than you realize building in the bulk of your error.
What I meant is doing that using inventor, just get the model area form its properties ( make sure it has no voids because their surfaces area will be count), then multiply it area with the coat thickness * coat density using calculator or in line inventor expression evaluation (still using technology). I give it a try and results were close by 99%. Thank you for you amazing videos and your work is really appreaciated.
3mm is .118in. WOW! You bet the paint gets heavy. neil does great video's but using this .12" thickness could really blow our wieght estimate budget. I am having a heart attack here with 1000lbs of paint in my 14,000lb Truss. 7.1%
6.20a.m. on Saturday morning and I'm watching a tutorial on how to calculate paint weight! I need to get a life! Seriously, another one of your excellent tutorials which always show a better way to do things than I would ever have thought up on my own. Thanks Neil.
Soz - reuploaded to fix an error, nothing new in here if you've already watched it! BTW the paint I'm referring to is pretty thick paint used for subsea vehicles, obviously normal commercial/domestic paint isn't 3mm thick but you can still use this technique for it and use a thinner shell. Or you can use this technique for other types of coatings.
Further update - I'll show a photo of the paint as a few people are doubting that paint can be that thick, I'll post what it is next week.
Hi Neil,
I work in a design team creating sewage treatment plants for cruise ships. Biggest I worked on was 9 metres square and 3 metres high with a base frame and both internal & external structure. The material was steel so a lot of paint was needed.
This is a very interesting topic and if I ever get a bit of free time I'll give it a go on a current project.
Your tutorials are superb. Thanks again.
Jim
That's an awesome video! I design pressure vessels, which are mostly painted. This is a definitely help. Not just for weight of paint, but also for determining volume of paint needed for a particular job! Every time I watch your videos I think you should have a set of training courses. I really enjoy your delivery style and I get a lot from your videos. Thank you!
Thanks for all the great videos on inventor man! You propose a lot of great ideas and I appreciate the tips to help me get to the next level in modeling and design!
A standard paint coat of primer and finish is roundabout 120 microns/micrometers (0.12 mm) - a really thick coat for something like offshore use is roughly 250 to 400 microns.
3 mm are equal to 3000 microns - a paint coating of this thickness I have never heard of. You are a bit off in your assumptions of coat thicknesses here.
Then again - with all your brilliant videos, you are more than entitled to a little error.
Thanks for all your great videos. I watch and enjoy every single one. Keep 'em rolling!
Thanks. I literally held a sample of the peeled off paint in the office earlier today - it was measured at roughly 2.7mm thick, I'll find out exactly what it was and post an update next week.
I believe this video is just to get an rough idea what we can do out of it
Man! Wow just wow.
I wish that you were my lecturer 🍻
Keep these up🖤
Nice video mate,Autodesk FAQ brought me here
Would love to see a video on proper Center of Gravity of parts and assemblies. Love the videos! Thanks!
Great video. A potential workaround to maintain adaptivity: I assume you needed to break the link in order to assign a material to the shrinkwrapped part? Inventor considers shrinkwrapped parts to be substitutes for their parent assemblies. Materials and physical properties may not be assigned, they are inherited from the parent assembly. To get around this, derive a second part from the shrinkwrapped part and proceed with the shell etc.
3mm of paint would probably be Car underboy sealant and I think you said that. This was just an example & a very good one. Cheers !
I think I know why It is that heavy, and is maybe because 1 mill is not 1mm, the correct conversion is something like this 1 mill = 0.001 in = 0.0254 mm, mill is a measure of thickness generally for paint... Of course the method to calculate the weight is still awesome. I write this just for info.
Yeah i was thinking the same thing
Hang fire I'm going to report back on the type of paint used here, it really is 2-3mm thick I held a sample of it - it might be a mixture of paint and some kind of protective coating but I'm finding out the name of it and will report back.
what visual style do you use for your models. They always look nice. My edges look to hard or thick or something
Awesome, thanks mate!
Can't we just calculate the surface area and multiply it with coating height then by coating density
Well you'd have to shrinkwrap an assembly into a part to isolate the painted surface area - so you might as well go the rest of the way and let the software do the calculations. But yes you could do it by hand. You could do a lot of stuff by hand instead of using technology to do it!
mryoutuser that method is more than good enough unless you're paint system is absolutely dialed in. The thickness is going to vary more than you realize building in the bulk of your error.
What I meant is doing that using inventor, just get the model area form its properties ( make sure it has no voids because their surfaces area will be count), then multiply it area with the coat thickness * coat density using calculator or in line inventor expression evaluation (still using technology). I give it a try and results were close by 99%. Thank you for you amazing videos and your work is really appreaciated.
What if you just want to know the area you need to paint? Does anyone know how to do this?
How would you make such a calculation for hollow profiles welded frame?
Jakub Struszczyk remove internal voids when you create the shrinkwrap.
very nice video
Why was break link important for this task?
Can i do this with fusion 360?
Not sure who this Karl is but he seems to know his shit! Mate.
Wait, why not just measure the surface area with the measure tool and basing calculation off of that instead?
3mm is .118in. WOW! You bet the paint gets heavy. neil does great video's but using this .12" thickness could really blow our wieght estimate budget. I am having a heart attack here with 1000lbs of paint in my 14,000lb Truss. 7.1%