ZiiGaat x Fresh Reviews Arete | Best Gaming IEM? | Review & Comparison
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024
- This video is a review and comparison of the ZiiGaat x Fresh Reviews Arete against the Softears Volume, DUNU DaVinci, Juzear 61T, Binary DynaQuattro, and Elysian Pilgrim.
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I haven't had a chance to hear these yet. I do own the Cincotres and I like them a lot. The Cincotres has the same case and eartips as the Arete, though the cable does look different. The Eletech Baroque eartips are the way to go with Ziigaat iems.
I like feauls h570, penon liquer orange and divinus wide on my doscincos.
@Hijynx87 I found the H570 pretty good. The Divinus Velvets weren't that great for me as they added a treble peak. BGVP Wide Bore and Penon Green & White tips were my other 2 tips that I liked.
I'm thinking of getting the Eletech Baroque tips since I've heard so many good things about them. After trying a bunch of different ear tips with the Arete, I found the Divinus Velvet wide bore worked best for me, especially for enhancing the treble perception. Do you think the Cincotres is bassy? Have you compared it to the Doscinco?
@Atechreviews Yes, I believe the Cincotres is bassy, but it is very tip dependent. I think the Eletech Baroque Tips really help the bass by slightly lowering the mid-bass and extending the sub-bass. It also allows for deeper insertion, which helps the treble as well.
Supposedly, there was a Stealth Re-Tune of the Cincotres. I haven't been able to confirm this for myself, but supposedly, the earlier models after initial release are warmer and bassier.
I haven't had a chance to hear the Doscinco, though many have said it is a more aggressive V shaped Performer 5. I find that hard to believe having owned a Performer 5 for a few years now.
@@hazi5961 Thanks, man. 👍
Somehow I don't like the Pilgrim , they have a tinsy , tinni sound to me , the Bass not as good quality than the Aful Performer 8, vocal timbre and Tonality are lost in comparison to P8 , although P8 isn't perfect but i still prefer the P8 over Pilgrim for sure. Thank you.
That's totally OK. We all have our preferences. I love the P8 too.
Hey! Thank you for the informative video! What DAC would work well with the ziigaat arete for iphone? Preferably a portable one if possible
Most dongles these days have low output impedance and sound great-even the Apple dongle works fine, though I’d recommend other options. Ideally, you'll want something with low output impedance, a neutral sound (not too bassy or warm), and a low noise floor.
For budget-friendly choices, I’d go with the FiiO KA11, Moondrop Dawn Pro, or Blon V1. They all perform really well for the price. If you prefer Bluetooth, the FiiO BTR13 or BTR15 are solid picks and come with EQ options too.
There are better dongles out there, but you don’t really need them unless you're after a serious upgrade. The ones I mentioned will sound great, stay neutral, and perform without any noticeable noise.
Outstanding review. Thank you ATR.
My pleasure!
You are too kind. I would personally say the cable garbage. For that price they give you junk accessories. They should be embarrassed by brands like Dunu which can provide many times better accessories even at much cheaper prices on some of their iems.
The cable isnt bad
Thanks! I think the cable is alright. I'd personally upgrade it, but it does the job.
I have the same feeling, it's not how they sound with the stock cable, it's how cheap and flimsy the stock cables look that always upset me for a not so cheap from an IEM set.
The shell looks eerily similar to my Yanyin Canon 2. Even the faceplate looks damn gorgeous, heck even the accessories are barebones, the stock cable on mine is great though.
You're right, they use the same shell design but come with different faceplates. The faceplate looks stunning IMO and much better in real life. It fits really comfortably.
Man i am also looking for an iem for gaming 😁😁 thanks for your review
No problem 👍
do you need an amp dac for it?
An Apple dongle or FiiO KA11 is great.
How do the Raptgo Hook X HBB stand up to these? Thinking to upgrade.
I haven't listened to the Raptgo Hook X HBB, so I can't comment on its sound.
Would something like the DX3 Pro pair well with this iem? It’s my main dac atm
Are you referring to the original version of the DX3 Pro? It has a low 1-ohm output impedance, which is ideal for the Arete and ensures the frequency response remains unaffected. You should have no issues, and it will sound great as intended.
@@Atechreviews sorry meant the pro+ but that’s great to hear been on the fence about getting some new IEMs
@@KillWija Oh, you were referring to the DX 3 Pro +. In that case, I'd recommend reaching out to someone who owns it or emailing Topping directly to confirm. From what I’ve heard, the Pro + might enter protection mode with headphones or IEMs that have an impedance under 20 ohms, and the Arete has an impedance of 9 ohms.
@@Atechreviews ah ok thanks for the info! Time for me to do some research one more question though in the event that’s the case do you have any recommendations that can drive IEMs with no problem?
@@KillWija These days, there are some fantastic budget dongles out there like the Moondrop Dawn Pro, Blon V1, and FiiO KA11. If you're after something with a bit more sound quality, the DUNU DTC 800 and Tanchjim Luna are excellent choices and they can handle most IEMs without breaking a sweat. What I really recommend though is the Topping L30 II. Pair it with the DX3 Pro+, and you won’t need to worry about amplifiers again, unless you specifically need balanced inputs or outputs.
Dang, your nails look perfect lol.
Hahaha, thanks!
Not a fan of those yellow eartips! Aftermarket made my doscincos sound wayyyy better. Using feaule h570 and divinus wide bores. penon orange liquere works great too, but not as good as the feaule.
I forgot to mention ear tips in the video. After trying many different ones, I found that the Arete sounds best with the Divinus Velvet wide bore ear tips.
Tonality aside, how does the technicality of this iem compare to Pula PA02? (Resolution, detail, staging, separation, etc).
I'd say the resolution and detail retrieval of both are pretty similar, but the PA02 has a bit more treble detail. The PA02 also has better separation, whereas the Arete does alright but gets a bit blurry when the track gets busy. The soundstage on the Arete isn't wider than the PA02, but it feels taller and has a sense of height. Plus, the imaging on the Arete is much better compared to the PA02.
@@Atechreviews Thank you very much for the detailed answer 🙏
@@thomasdanny7717 You're welcome!
Im currently testing the pilgrims bc they were $320. I am still only a week back into iems so my ears are a bit tender, but man, idk they are awesome for competitive gaming. I also have the supermix4, pula pa02, and tanchjim origin. This wont be the decision maker but i am curious, is anything going to beat the pilgrims($320) for competitive gaming?
You really don't need much for gaming lmao. IEMs are a music thing.
@@tom_from_myspace i always thought the same, ive tested a lot from $10 to $530, i do acknowledge the diminishing returns, but the pilgrims destroy my budget pairs in games. I know there are excellent sub $200 pairs, but something about the pilgrims scream overall package. I was hesitant at $400, but $80 off feels like a steal now
@@tom_from_myspace i used to think the same thing, but iems arent a gaming thing, but they arent just music things, they are audio things. I acknowledge diminishing returns and that is why i have a max price, but after testing over a dozen iems $10-530, i can easily say that there are jumps in performance and for $320 the pilgrim feels like a steal!!!!
To find an IEM that outperforms the Pilgrim for competitive gaming, you’ll likely have to spend a lot more due to diminishing returns. I haven't come across anything better for gaming at a reasonable price. You got an amazing deal at that price. Enjoy!
@@Atechreviews woooo, thank you for the reply😊
Thumbs up for your finger nail polish.
Hahaha, thanks!
I know this isnt a gaming channel, but can you rank your top 5 iems for competitive gaming? Any price, just best performance
I'm not an expert on gaming IEMs, but here’s my take:
1. Softears Studio 4
2. Elysian Pilgrim
3. Arete
4. 61T
5. Any planar IEM
@@Atechreviews thank you very much! I just like to hear others about their experiences and likes :)
@@schnozzola You're welcome! :)
@@AtechreviewsWhat about the SuperMix 4? I would like to know your take on them for gaming.
There is no such thing as a 'gaming IEM'. It either sounds good, or it doesn't.
Of course, a good IEM will sound great with anything, but for specific games, an IEM with certain features can give you a competitive edge or help you hear details more clearly. For example, as mentioned in the video, the Arete has an excellent sense of height, which is fantastic for gaming and movies but less useful for music. That said, you're right, if an IEM sounds good, it can definitely be used for gaming. The Arete isn’t just a gaming IEM; it performs well for music too.
@joga you are 100% wrong
@@Atechreviews True, but I would presume that I could potentially fiddle around with an EQ such that I boost specific sounds of a game. Also, if you want a better spatial awareness, nothing beats sheer size (ie. Over Ear). And you would get even better spatial awareness if the over ears are an open construction (as a rule of thumb).
I always compare these things with car centric stuff. For example spatial awareness could be compared to the torque of an engine. If you want to get big heavy things rolling, you require torque. And to get torque your engine needs size. It's the same for audio. For spatial awareness, you just need size so that the entire ear gets to experience the sound, not just the ear channel.
@@joga_bonito_aro You can't really measure it though, so comparing a hard number like torque to it is not helpful analogy at all imo. Also the closeness of iems is not particularly a disadvantage here because no detail gets missed. And at least in my case a 40$ iem feels better for gaming then my Sennheisers.
@@Jakob3xD That comment tells me you don't know how spatial audio works for humans