I believe it's the same as when you catch a disc with your hands, so because she had her leg under it and rotation had clearly stopped. I believe it's up.
@@willsicard8771 Wow, what a strong opinion! You two have succeeded in convincing me that the probability of this being a catch is higher than I previously thought. As the disc is falling she sort of has her hand on it for a moment, but then her hand comes off and the disc ends up on her left foot. The disc does touch the ground for a moment during the process, and she does also pin the disc between her feet/ankles at some point during the process. The key question then is: Did the pin start before the disc touches the ground? For me, it's really hard to tell just from this camera angle. After slowing it down to 25%, I feel like I could still believe either answer. It does look to me like her right foot is still making its way over to pin the disc when it first touches the ground, but it's really close. So, if you want to claim that this is a catch, I don't think I can confidently disagree with you, and I think it would be next to impossible for any defender to make a definitive case that the disc is down from their perspective. But I also don't think that it's 100% clear.
@@tnaumovitz file this under "too cool to call it not up" the cooler a potential catch is, the more sure you have to be to take it away, else the Frisbee Gods will surely punish you for your insolence
Not to take anything away from the play, but it's always seemed to me that the disc touches the ground at 0:29.
I believe it's the same as when you catch a disc with your hands, so because she had her leg under it and rotation had clearly stopped. I believe it's up.
@emuzoo0913 yeah, but she also needs to maintain possession of the disc throughout the ground contact, which I'm not convinced she does.
@@tnaumovitz she 100% does though
@@willsicard8771 Wow, what a strong opinion!
You two have succeeded in convincing me that the probability of this being a catch is higher than I previously thought. As the disc is falling she sort of has her hand on it for a moment, but then her hand comes off and the disc ends up on her left foot. The disc does touch the ground for a moment during the process, and she does also pin the disc between her feet/ankles at some point during the process. The key question then is: Did the pin start before the disc touches the ground? For me, it's really hard to tell just from this camera angle. After slowing it down to 25%, I feel like I could still believe either answer. It does look to me like her right foot is still making its way over to pin the disc when it first touches the ground, but it's really close. So, if you want to claim that this is a catch, I don't think I can confidently disagree with you, and I think it would be next to impossible for any defender to make a definitive case that the disc is down from their perspective.
But I also don't think that it's 100% clear.
@@tnaumovitz file this under "too cool to call it not up"
the cooler a potential catch is, the more sure you have to be to take it away, else the Frisbee Gods will surely punish you for your insolence