Pseudo trash absolute garbage . You reject every notion that not all us are complete idiots who can not question your absurd stupidity you pass off as a scientific study of your dumb ass limited construct you make out to be reality .
Fascinating watching not only the movement of stars, but also the evolution of technology that allows us to gain a better perspective on the universe. Galileo would be proud.
WOW, she is pure passion about this subject. For someone who knows nothing, or at least very, little, I'm now totally hooked after listening to her and have booked up for a night at the planetarium near Kielder, England. She has as much energy as the universe lol. Loved it.
Really? You envy them? Of what? Polluted and toxic planet? Thanks but no thanks. Think Fallout not Star trek. Toxic soil, polluted oceans, dirty rivers. Clean water will be more valuable than gold. Planet earth will be a wasteland in 200 years or sooner.
Wow, there are a lot of mean-spirited critiques here. Where's the childlike wonder that this technology deserves? It's fantastic technology. Thank you Jackie Faherty for your high-spirited presentation,
@Don Pelton, I agree, so many haters here. I enjoyed the hell out of this presentation, I'm over 60 but her enthusiasm made me feel like a kid again. These bozos are yawning and whining but I'm wishing it was 2 hours longer.
Because nobody cares about Education, society is in ignorance of the factual truths and is developing an intellect in following fake-drama. Bad time for Education in the world.
The same reason why you are talking with your husband about the weather, how kids do at school or about the new neighbors. And not about Astrophysics... Btw. I despise scientists whose first sentence during a lecture is "Are you all exited?" and who wear more jewelry then the Kardashians on the red carpet.
WOW. I love astronomy and science, been loving and following it for years now. So I'm not easily impressed but wow and indeed. Our milky way like never seen/simulated before. Great work!
I've presented to Aerospace companies for 20 years, in my former Metrology career... this Lady is one of the best presenters i've seen. Super impressive technology.
Esmerald Dedushaj .....more nonsense and lies ......you do not live on a potato rock racing through "space".....know this for yourself..... vast oceans are demonstrably level observable measurable recordable and repeatable .....Real science with real substance not pseudoscience and mathematical jargon. Good luck with that let's see how smart you really are ???? Depends if you can think yourself or not..... do not appeal to authority unless you don't mind being lied to about everything under the Sun
So with Gaia's data we can plot the distance and trajectories of stars and place each one where it SHOULD be in time without time delay caused by distance and the speed of light. For example Proxima Centauri is the closest star to Sol, but we see it 4.3 years behind where it is actually located in space due to the light speed time delay of 4.3 years. Now we can show exactly where it is in its orbit of Alpha Centauri A and B binary system as well as exactly where those two stars are in their binary orbits around each other. So we can remove the time delay of what we see in the night sky and where these and other stars are really located in the Milky Way. That will siginificantly help in persuing 1/5 or 1/10 speed of light travel to out nearest stellar neighbors for navigating to them correctly.
Pup314 Thanks for your thoughts. I had not considered time delay in visualizing these star positions. The presenter did not say whether her visualizations were corrected for time, that near stars are closer to their current positions relative to the sun and distant stars are billions of years from the positions we see them. I have spent a lot of time listening to scientific presentations and making them myself, though not on astronomy. I prefer to have each visual aid, like a graph, clearly explained, ordinate, abscissa, dimension, scale, trend lines, error bars, colors & symbols etc. In this case I kept feeling that the scale and resolution and the meaning of other characteristics of the images were left to my imagination. It can seem obvious to the presenter since they look at their data every day, but for most other people, taking time to explain what we are seeing is much appreciated. For example, early in the presentation I could not reconcile the apparent star burst pattern of bright stars which seems not to match the spiral distribution of matter in the galaxy. Could you explain for me what was being shown? Another question I had was later in the presentation of the distribution of iron rich stars represented in green. She said the more distant stars were bluer, so less iron and therefore older. But when she pulled back in the image of the galaxy, the green stars formed a starburst pattern in a small region of the galaxy. Is that because of the time factor you mentioned above. Thank you.
@@drmasroberts From what I understand the Kepler view was towards the constellation of Cygnus the Swan, and the stars we see are those stars in that direction we see from Earth. Kepler 2 mission after its gyroscopes had somewhat failed was allowed to look around the ecliptic for brief (compaired to the previous Kepler observation time) observations. So for Kepler 1 mission we are looking across a few spiral arms in a narrow area of view. Kind of like looking through a cardboard tube. we will see some near by objects and some medium objects and some distant objects in the field of view. I think (I am trying to understand this myself) the time dilation effect for the iron rich (green stars) compared to the distribution of the blue stars is not a major factor as the distances are in thousands and tens of thousands of years distant, and has more to do with concentration of super nova ejecta( heavier metalicitiy of stars formed from the super nova ejecta) towards the center of the galaxy. That sine more matter is closer in to the central black hole you will get heavyer stars that are both younger and live shorter lives, and enrich the instellar medium with heavier elements faster, as opposed to the outer rim and spirals of our galaxy where stars might be fewer in number smaller in mass on average, and thus longer lived and producing less heavy elements. I think, too, that locations of the actual spiral arms where matter is concentrated more also plays a part. I hope that helps you. I certainly do not know of all the variables in this scenario.
This is a question I've had for a long time now as well. As I hear about maps of the universe, I'm thinking that such maps are distorted by time delay. I have often wondered whether someone could construct a model of the universe, or our local area of the universe, that positions stars where we predict they should be now based on their velocity and trajectory. I've emailed several astronomers over the years with no reply to this question.
@@Knoxvilletim Maybe now with this Gaia star probe such information it gathers will make such a real time map possible? Maybe see if you can email the AMNH to find out the name of this presenter and take a look at the actual information and learn how to set it up yourself? Maybe star with the closes 10 stars to our Sun. some of shich would be Proxima Centauri, Alpha Centauri A, Alpha Centauri B, Barnard's star, to name 4 i can remember off the top of my head.
This woman is passionate about her subject matter, she knows her stuff and she breaks really complex theories into plain English so that shmucks like me can understand. Really enjoyed her presentation!!
To see the first take and use of new revolutionary data set is always very exciting. I can only imagine the implication of this new data and its uses will take decades to fully utilise. Red dwarfs are exciting and potentially enormous by way of opportunities. Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming. Its amazing to think back to Carl Sagan's cosmos as a boy and the imagery was based on theory and those shown here are based on actually data plotting paths and motion etc. Truly exciting times. For us all. Invitation accepted, thanks for the Christmas present!
Telescopic perspective is still and real, but motion drawn from other perspectives is animated, based on calculated data to be processed in millions of years. (Years?) Since time doesn't exist, I have used the term Process for time, while year is the duration of the process of Earth rotation around Sun, which is just another process like numerous other processes, such as duration of cooking food in kitchen is different from the duration of process of a year. If you still think time exists, then think of vacuum or empty space, somewhere in the infinity, without any processes, where I would imagine duration of my cooking process, you would imagine a year on Earth and someone else would imagine drive from home to office, etc, etc but in fact, there were no processes to measure in vacuum or empty space somewhere in the infinity. Now its easier to think of Eternity (timelessness) in the Infinity (limitlessness) as well, where, Processlessness aare actually the Timelessness. Thanks for reading.
Nice to see such enthusiasm. I like her presentation and I like the content. I have a masters degree but this is not my field so I guess you could say I'm a layman and I find this very interesting at this level.
These stars are moving like molecules in air , how vast the difference in scale and yet the familiarity is mindblowing ! We now have an accurate representation of the galaxies , a step towards understanding space.
What a knowledgable and clear, forthright sharing of the latest we have on star creation and mapping star/galaxy movement over accelerated timeframes. I detect no brashness or aggression from the excellent presenter whose enthusiasm drives the presentation.
Excellent presentation! In my junior year of high school I took a course in Astronomy. I quickly became an assistant to the prof and not only helping him with his projects, I occasionally helped teach class. This presentation of yours reminded me very much of the sort of things we did back then. One involved painting a scale model of the solar system ( relative to distance, but not size ) on the floor of the hallway. Another project involved a square yard of Styrofoam and hundreds of push pins to map out things in the galaxy relative to Earth. My final exam was to do my own presentation. I had the full use of the planetarium at my disposal. So I did one on how vast the Milky Way is. And I did it in relatable terms to everyday experiences. So this vid brought back some good memories. Thank you.
This is truly a groundbreaking project. A few decades from now we will know so much more because of this. After computers are able to render at higher speeds we should be able to map and project the movements off all the stars in our galaxy.
Your style and approach to explaining how the galaxy look and function is just breathtaking! Great job Doctor. As a result, I definitely will visit the museum in the near future .
Good stuff. If we replay the motions which Gaia now reveals for neighbors, are there any past near transits that might coincide with major past climatic fluctuations or extinction events?
Not quite. See, you have current position, velocity and direction for all these star. From that, you can make linear plots. What you cannot make is accurate predictions because all the stars here are constantly being influenced by the complex gravity fields of other moving objects in the galaxy. Add in the uncertainty of dark matter and dark energy, and all plotting predictions going forwards or backwards becomes increasingly erroneous in an exponential way. Watch the video at 15:30 and notice all the star pairs/groups are moving in straight lines across those millions of years. In reality, they would be moving in curves as they proceed through and with gravity of all other objects. Still, very educational and entertaining! :-)
@@valkyriefrost5301 thats a good point, but i would still be very interested to see that information. for stars that are close enough or moving fast enough, i think even a straight-line approximation would probably still be fairly informative out to several millions of years.
@@Speedj2 I wish we could target our searches towards comets (perturbed by our past millions years nearby stars passing us by). I wish we could see where we could expect oort-cloud hits, but we're nowhere near that precision. So it's still "same old" look out at every direction and hope a killer-comet is not coming from near the sun (only about four days warning period), then hope we can make difference in trajectory in few months we would have left.
@Geo Well yeah, obviously. Anything larger than ~20 km across is likely to have caused all life on Earth to go extinct! The Chicxulub impactor is only hypothesized to have been 10 to 15 km across and that (apparently) caused the entire Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event. A near transit might simply perturb Oort or Kuiper Belt objects sufficiently to "stir" them up and send a few on reoriented trajectories that impact Earth.
I know right.... Not nearly enough women have interest in something outside of a selfie; lunch with the girls.. .etc.... (So it seems anyway)... So yeah this is really a turn on lol..
Wow, wow wow. I am flashed. Makes me humble and thoughtful.... We as humans only have this world and how are we treating it! Space, we only can reach it in our dreams. Thank you for this excellent presentation.
Brilliant. Inspiring. Enlightening. Powerful. Important. Just a few words that could never do justice to an accomplishment of this magnitude. Here's two more words, "thank you."
In a million years, whatever we become will likely have the ability to move anywhere in this universe and beyond, instantly at will...Frighteningly powerful......So powerful that the only respite would be to forget start again.
It's so sad that if this was a song video or a cat putting a hat on it would a hundred times the views and comments! We are so lucky to have this brilliant mind blowing information available at a push of a few buttons. I think about the graph paper we had on our school ceiling representing time and the mobile solar systems we had hanging in our science classrooms and think who could have dreamed we would have this information in such a short period of time. The next decade and beyond is going to bring things we are not capable of even imagining!
I have to ask. Why should I be afraid? All of the scenarios the presenter said that we shouldn't be afraid of, but do be afraid anyway, won't happen for least one million years. So I have have to ask, again. Why should we be afraid?
@@MarkOden Well, basically, I think she showed star (with its own oort-cloud of comets) passing our star "soon", so you could conclude that earlier stars passing through our oort cloud would perturb stones and they would be hitting us. Nothing we can do about it now, she did not say we should advance our monitoring of space so we don't get wiped out ("like dinosaurs"). Though dinosaurs were on their way out anyhow, a hit by comet just speeded it up a bit. She didn't say it directly but add 10-10000x amount of stars to any video she showed and you may get a decent picture what's happening... We need a plan to divert stuff dropping our way.
That's why she said 'don't be afraid, but do be afraid'. Just like when you look into the Yellowstone Super Volcano or the other things that could cause extinction level events for earth in the far far future. They're things that are scary, but so far away or unknown that its not worth actually being scared about.
Justin Miller Your analogy is comparing a person with a bad heart wondering if they will ever have a heart attack to someone with a bad heart wondering if a jet plane will ever fall on them.
@@MarkOden I don't get why you didn't like his analogy. He was on point with it. What this data shows is, that stars are "constantly" passing by. This can cause asteroids or comets getting pushed into our solar system, potentially hitting earth. Before that "we didn't think" that other stars would pass us so frequently. Its scale means "Don't be afraid, this is stuff that might happen in a million years or so". Its implications mean "But be afraid" because you should always remember: The universe is very hostile towards life. The fact we're here, is dumb luck. Dumb luck can run out over night.
65 year old man here; I wish I was being born tomorrow to see what great 'stuff' Jackie Faherty discovers!! Happy to have enjoyed the Museum of Natural History for many years.
We benefit greatly from expand our consciousness beyond the smallest of petty activities in our daily lives. We are part of this living Universe. It's important to be reminded of this.
Beautifully done! I, for one, strongly believe that while scientific analysis should always be done with dispassion, presentation of such findings should always be with passion. Sadly, in most cases, we get the opposite: we get passionate research and dispassionate, boring presentations. Not so with this one! The amount of enthusiasm is so dense that it's almost tangible. How anyone can hate this, I don't understand at all. Kudos and well done! Love from S Asia!
According to the simulations, the stars seem to be travelling on something. No of them seems to be colliding into each other. More like what you'd expect if you had balls in a liquid or other fabric. They don't look like they are forming. I'd love this as one of those audio visualiser.
Gaia Sky is a wonderful app for exploring the stars that have been mapped by Gaia. It is quite beautiful and I believe offers 3D if you have the capability. Unfortunately, I do not.
Great presentation! I’m glad that she talks to the kids at the end-they’re the future generation of astronomers. I’m also glad to see it’s a she and not a he-not that I have anything against guys, but women have typically not been associated with astronomy, and it’s a welcome change in the last few years that we see more and more of them. Hopefully, this will bring more kids and more girls/women to STEM!
So cool. I cannot wait to see what and how JWST contributes to the 3D rendering of the galaxy! Also, I'm a little sad It's taken me 3 years to find this video.
Brown stars. It's like rolling over in bed and someone is there. Oh my, you are hysterical. That said, the visualizations were extremely interesting. Thank you so much and best wishes to you. (Oh, and I'm not worried about what will happen 1.2 million years from now. My daughter is getting married in June. That's enough stress for now! Thank you again.
I am a retired Oracle and SQL Server developer and I would have been thrilled to have loaded these data into a database and run statistical analyses on the data or developed queries to extract subsets of the data. Also, I think if they could have gotten a better close up of Oumuamua, they would have seen that it had "Send more Chuck Berry" printed on it.
being alive when that other star passes through our oort cloud would be even more interesting. What a sht storm of debris that will cause! It'll be epic. Heavy bombardment 2.0
I agree that this is super-Awesome. That Kepler thing @ 23:23 in the video looks amazingly regular and cube-shaped, when one would think (based on the standard model) that it would appear more random and fuzzy, if not spiral-shaped or vortex-shaped. Interestingly, this agrees with the model of Ernest Sternglass [book: BEFORE THE BIG BANG (1997, 2001)], which is available from Amazon. Best, Mark Creek-water Dorazio, amateur physics/astronomy enthusiast, Phoenix, Arizona, USA
She mentioned it was a 3D projection from the relatively flat perspective of telescopes on Earth. I suppose that means the shape isn't accurate. Not sure if that's what she was saying or not.
I am nerdy and antisocial person, so I am bad at distinguishing whether someone is sarcastic or not. For maintain my own sanity, I suppose you are just kidding now. But for the case you are not: that cube shaped picture is cube shaped, because that is the shape of multiple cube shaped CCD receievers (cameras) inside the telescope. Your comment made me think that this video, as she mentioned, "broke the internet" not because it is interesting, but because people though the same think as you. Now excuse me, I have to go kill myself.
@@TommyTMOD Hi Tommy: I was not being sarcastic, but it's true that I did not realize that the cube shaped picture is based on the shape of the cameras. However, my comment still holds true, as you might realize if you read Sternglass's book BEFORE THE BIG BANG. In Sternglass's model, the galaxies and stars form in a way which is different from the explanation given by the standard model. The book is available from Amazon.
thank you jackie.a beautiful presentation of a voyage into the dapet of the obese. life is a mouvement. everything star from one point. and everything is a living being .
mauri man I didn’t know stars had a mind of there own, cause I’ve seen a video of tens of thousands of bats flying in a real close proximity of each other and they do not collide she’s showing us nothing but CGI’s .
L T dude as she said it’s a computer projection of the future movements based on the datas collected from gaia. Do you really thought it was a video taken from an iPhone? Lol
The wonder of all of it really gets the mind racing... The SIZE and magnitude of scale is amazing... the motion simulates something familiar... I cant quite put my finger on it... can it be something real simple we are not seeing yet?
@Will Pack In case you did not know, most of the flat-earthers are very religious, and their goal is to keep the literal meaning of the "earth is flat" from the bible, thus them being against everything that proves otherwise!
Researchers at Darmstadt Technical University have now managed to stop light. This tells us that the speed of light is not a constant. Many scientists believe light is slowing down therefore the distances they have plotted for stars could be incorrect.
Wait so they are at the Museum of Natural History talking about astronomy and not using the planetarium? I was there two years ago and I had to cry when no other than the voice of Neil deGrasse Tyson made me understand the expansion of the universe while the projection on the dome engulfed me in 180° from left to right and top to bottom of pure space awesomeness. Gaia-data with that would just blow my head clean off.
Summary. Rendering of data. we have best data visualizations . We will fill in the missing data . Open up a say ahhhhh ... science , magical Oooh science, more renderings , say science again . Foundation, how far is it away ? Science, I mean extrapolation. Good grief people
yes, all that we heard was "i'm gonna"..."my"..."I"..."me flying"... presenter centric self references and then "this is science"..."science brings you"..."render"..."never before done"..."I do awesome work". In the end, nothing outside of the known.
I hope you are able to teach many other people because you are great at it. You make the information fairly simple to a wide verity of intelligence levels In terms of knowledge of astronomy. Your enthusiasm for your subject is clear and powerful. I hope we hear more from you in the future.
Jackie has extensive knowledge, enthusiasm and presentational skills.......that's what you need to be a good presenter. Oh, by the way, the answer to life, the Universe and everything is........is!........well, you know what it is!
*****snow flake trigger warning****** she thinks science is not subjective and not fake news...........................this message brought to you by the power of science
Nah.... Clearly a dumbass. (same shit I guess) By definition of "scientific theory" it's NOT fake news. Let me guess.... Your knuckle dragging dumbass is gonna highlight the word "theory" n say "see, it's jus a theory, not fact" huh??? Don't lie ya dipshit!!! Hahaha.... There's a HUGE difference between popular definition of theory, and actual "scientific theory". So.... Buy a dictionary first, then work your way forward. Ok jackass??
“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams......................
“Science is fact...science is truth.. not some fact check whatever..” then turns around and says “ we do t know if these calculations are correct...we can’t be for sure if this was its trajectory...” ummm yeah more CGI... more art.. more filling in the gap with what we think happened....
Chris Montgomery how Am stretching it? Please don’t tell me you are one of those people that believes everything he sees without doing your own research. Growing up I remember a “Theory” was science best guess. Now A theory is considered fact. At the end of the video she invites everyone to “Download” their software and play with their data, which earlier she had said they aren’t sure their data is correct. I can come to my own conclusions based on the material provided. Can I be wrong yes. But to say I’m stretching it...? C’mon bro.. by the way I work for........*************(Top secret)shhh....
You type on the product of many years of compounded accurate science built upon eachother. You have a better system of discerning truth than the scientific method? Present it.
No where in my comment did I mention I am against science, Nor did I make a claim CGI was not science. I was simply stating that a science theory was just that - “science best guess” which now a theory is considered to be the truth and if/when others oppose a theory that passes for truth you are ridiculed. We all need to look into information presented and come to your own conclusions and not be told what to think.
When time is turned on at about 12 minutes, for some reason I thought the stars would be all moving about the same speed but some of them are zooming around. And is it me or are more moving to the right than the left; and if so then why ?
@dwarfedgiant ...sorry, I can see how my comment is confusing. The data tools used in the video are not Adobe tools and Photoshop was likely not used in the animations. My comment was directed at the printed and online depictions of celestial objects atrificially colored for emphasis and marketing. Glamorizing science is a disservice to real science imho. Similar animations use Adobe products to benhance videos here on youtube. When the lines are blurred between things like videos of future missions to Mars and actual data displays the result causes misunderstanding of actual scientific accomplishments. The amazing looking posters of our Galaxy for example, inspire and cause layperson's/tax payers to think astronomy projects are more advanced, sometimes winning bids for nsf contracts for example. It helps astronomy groups attract tax money and in in some cases ecological destruction as is the case with out most sacred mountain in Hawaii. Yes regarding my use of ps and Adobe products. I like to make things appear better than reality. But I like to think I'm more honest by telling people when something like an image has been enhanced. I don't really take raw data and make it appear heavenly. Thanks for helping to clarify.
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American Museum of Natural History is an amazing adventure
Hello good or Ming 11/05/2019
Pseudo trash absolute garbage . You reject every notion that not all us are complete idiots who can not question your absurd stupidity you pass off as a scientific study of your dumb ass limited construct you make out to be reality .
Fascinating watching not only the movement of stars, but also the evolution of technology that allows us to gain a better perspective on the universe. Galileo would be proud.
This presentation is MIND BLOWING! it's nearly impossible for the human mind to grasp. I love Jackie's passion, enthusiasm and humour.
WOW, she is pure passion about this subject. For someone who knows nothing, or at least very, little, I'm now totally hooked after listening to her and have booked up for a night at the planetarium near Kielder, England. She has as much energy as the universe lol. Loved it.
There's so much we still don't know. I envy future generations.
Really? You envy them? Of what? Polluted and toxic planet? Thanks but no thanks. Think Fallout not Star trek.
Toxic soil, polluted oceans, dirty rivers. Clean water will be more valuable than gold. Planet earth will be a wasteland in 200 years or sooner.
We ARE our predecessors' future generation.
freeze yourself
Galileo probably said the same thing.
Science can take blame for some of those things we do not know.
Amazing! Thank you for sharing this presentation. Jackie Faherty has a remarkable mind!
wisdom of this realm is foolishness to our creator..
#theawakeningisunstoppable
and this is just regurgitated garbal wisdom and cgi...wake up
Wow, there are a lot of mean-spirited critiques here. Where's the childlike wonder that this technology deserves? It's fantastic technology. Thank you Jackie Faherty for your high-spirited presentation,
@MonkeyZorr Right..that's why there are so many of us are here commenting on her political jobs. lol
@Don Pelton, I agree, so many haters here. I enjoyed the hell out of this presentation, I'm over 60 but her enthusiasm made me feel like a kid again. These bozos are yawning and whining but I'm wishing it was 2 hours longer.
I'm not a child anymore.
There's the childishness! Ah... From the mouths of babes. @@CrimTube
@@CrimTube I'm sorry. I thought we were talking about mean spirited critiques.
Absolutely amazing! Thank you so much, Jackie!
Why didnt THEY PUT THIS ON THE NEWS? No, they rather flood the news with the latest drama of the Kardashian's
My favourite opinion.
PUT THIS ON THE NEWS! your fav girl is RIGHT!
Because nobody cares about Education, society is in ignorance of the factual truths and is developing an intellect in following fake-drama. Bad time for Education in the world.
The same reason why you are talking with your husband about the weather, how kids do at school or about the new neighbors. And not about Astrophysics...
Btw. I despise scientists whose first sentence during a lecture is "Are you all exited?" and who wear more jewelry then the Kardashians on the red carpet.
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I love this visualization style. As an artist I like the scale it can boggle your mind with.
Amazing work scientists and engineers.. Thank you.
...don't any of them bump into each other?!....
I am SO GLAD I came across this video. Thank you!
My feelings exactly.
did it open up your eyes
puts a lot of our "news" into a much more humble perspective. Thank you!
so amazing. sped up in the 'fly-by' animation those stars appear like motes of dust in a sunbeam. truly perspective-changing
WOW.
I love astronomy and science, been loving and following it for years now. So I'm not easily impressed but wow and indeed. Our milky way like never seen/simulated before. Great work!
I've presented to Aerospace companies for 20 years, in my former Metrology career... this Lady is one of the best presenters i've seen. Super impressive technology.
I really like her enthusiasm about space exploration and astronomy.
Esmerald Dedushaj .....more nonsense and lies ......you do not live on a potato rock racing through "space".....know this for yourself..... vast oceans are demonstrably level observable measurable recordable and repeatable .....Real science with real substance not pseudoscience and mathematical jargon. Good luck with that let's see how smart you really are ???? Depends if you can think yourself or not..... do not appeal to authority unless you don't mind being lied to about everything under the Sun
So with Gaia's data we can plot the distance and trajectories of stars and place each one where it SHOULD be in time without time delay caused by distance and the speed of light. For example Proxima Centauri is the closest star to Sol, but we see it 4.3 years behind where it is actually located in space due to the light speed time delay of 4.3 years. Now we can show exactly where it is in its orbit of Alpha Centauri A and B binary system as well as exactly where those two stars are in their binary orbits around each other. So we can remove the time delay of what we see in the night sky and where these and other stars are really located in the Milky Way. That will siginificantly help in persuing 1/5 or 1/10 speed of light travel to out nearest stellar neighbors for navigating to them correctly.
Pup314 Thanks for your thoughts. I had not considered time delay in visualizing these star positions. The presenter did not say whether her visualizations were corrected for time, that near stars are closer to their current positions relative to the sun and distant stars are billions of years from the positions we see them. I have spent a lot of time listening to scientific presentations and making them myself, though not on astronomy. I prefer to have each visual aid, like a graph, clearly explained, ordinate, abscissa, dimension, scale, trend lines, error bars, colors & symbols etc. In this case I kept feeling that the scale and resolution and the meaning of other characteristics of the images were left to my imagination. It can seem obvious to the presenter since they look at their data every day, but for most other people, taking time to explain what we are seeing is much appreciated. For example, early in the presentation I could not reconcile the apparent star burst pattern of bright stars which seems not to match the spiral distribution of matter in the galaxy. Could you explain for me what was being shown? Another question I had was later in the presentation of the distribution of iron rich stars represented in green. She said the more distant stars were bluer, so less iron and therefore older. But when she pulled back in the image of the galaxy, the green stars formed a starburst pattern in a small region of the galaxy. Is that because of the time factor you mentioned above. Thank you.
@@drmasroberts From what I understand the Kepler view was towards the constellation of Cygnus the Swan, and the stars we see are those stars in that direction we see from Earth. Kepler 2 mission after its gyroscopes had somewhat failed was allowed to look around the ecliptic for brief (compaired to the previous Kepler observation time) observations. So for Kepler 1 mission we are looking across a few spiral arms in a narrow area of view. Kind of like looking through a cardboard tube. we will see some near by objects and some medium objects and some distant objects in the field of view. I think (I am trying to understand this myself) the time dilation effect for the iron rich (green stars) compared to the distribution of the blue stars is not a major factor as the distances are in thousands and tens of thousands of years distant, and has more to do with concentration of super nova ejecta( heavier metalicitiy of stars formed from the super nova ejecta) towards the center of the galaxy. That sine more matter is closer in to the central black hole you will get heavyer stars that are both younger and live shorter lives, and enrich the instellar medium with heavier elements faster, as opposed to the outer rim and spirals of our galaxy where stars might be fewer in number smaller in mass on average, and thus longer lived and producing less heavy elements. I think, too, that locations of the actual spiral arms where matter is concentrated more also plays a part. I hope that helps you. I certainly do not know of all the variables in this scenario.
This is a question I've had for a long time now as well. As I hear about maps of the universe, I'm thinking that such maps are distorted by time delay. I have often wondered whether someone could construct a model of the universe, or our local area of the universe, that positions stars where we predict they should be now based on their velocity and trajectory. I've emailed several astronomers over the years with no reply to this question.
@@Knoxvilletim Maybe now with this Gaia star probe such information it gathers will make such a real time map possible? Maybe see if you can email the AMNH to find out the name of this presenter and take a look at the actual information and learn how to set it up yourself? Maybe star with the closes 10 stars to our Sun. some of shich would be Proxima Centauri, Alpha Centauri A, Alpha Centauri B, Barnard's star, to name 4 i can remember off the top of my head.
This woman is passionate about her subject matter, she knows her stuff and she breaks really complex theories into plain English so that shmucks like me can understand. Really enjoyed her presentation!!
OUTSTANDING PRESENTATION! I could not even sleep well last night thinking of that new data!!!! Wonderful!!!
Wow! I've played with the older data in Partiview. I would love to be able to turn on time and see the movement like this. Outstanding.
But she says your laptop will be crashed.
To see the first take and use of new revolutionary data set is always very exciting. I can only imagine the implication of this new data and its uses will take decades to fully utilise. Red dwarfs are exciting and potentially enormous by way of opportunities. Keep up the good work and keep the videos coming. Its amazing to think back to Carl Sagan's cosmos as a boy and the imagery was based on theory and those shown here are based on actually data plotting paths and motion etc. Truly exciting times. For us all.
Invitation accepted, thanks for the Christmas present!
Telescopic perspective is still and real, but motion drawn from other perspectives
is animated, based on calculated data to be processed in millions of years. (Years?)
Since time doesn't exist, I have used the term Process for time, while year is the
duration of the process of Earth rotation around Sun, which is just another process
like numerous other processes, such as duration of cooking food in kitchen is different
from the duration of process of a year.
If you still think time exists, then think of vacuum or empty space, somewhere in the infinity,
without any processes, where I would imagine duration of my cooking process, you would
imagine a year on Earth and someone else would imagine drive from home to office, etc, etc
but in fact, there were no processes to measure in vacuum or empty space somewhere in the infinity.
Now its easier to think of Eternity (timelessness) in the Infinity (limitlessness) as well, where,
Processlessness aare actually the Timelessness. Thanks for reading.
Nice to see such enthusiasm. I like her presentation and I like the content. I have a masters degree but this is not my field so I guess you could say I'm a layman and I find this very interesting at this level.
@@PersonalStash420 I would give you 10 "likes" if I could, you've said what we all think brother 😀👍
These stars are moving like molecules in air , how vast the difference in scale and yet the familiarity is mindblowing ! We now have an accurate representation of the galaxies , a step towards understanding space.
What a knowledgable and clear, forthright sharing of the latest we have on star creation and mapping star/galaxy movement over accelerated timeframes. I detect no brashness or aggression from the excellent presenter whose enthusiasm drives the presentation.
Excellent presentation! In my junior year of high school I took a course in Astronomy. I quickly became an assistant to the prof and not only helping him with his projects, I occasionally helped teach class. This presentation of yours reminded me very much of the sort of things we did back then. One involved painting a scale model of the solar system ( relative to distance, but not size ) on the floor of the hallway. Another project involved a square yard of Styrofoam and hundreds of push pins to map out things in the galaxy relative to Earth. My final exam was to do my own presentation. I had the full use of the planetarium at my disposal. So I did one on how vast the Milky Way is. And I did it in relatable terms to everyday experiences. So this vid brought back some good memories. Thank you.
This is truly a groundbreaking project. A few decades from now we will know so much more because of this. After computers are able to render at higher speeds we should be able to map and project the movements off all the stars in our galaxy.
That is beautiful. But it is hard to beat the mid pacific too. Thanks for sharing!
Had to watch twice and could watch it again..alot of work went into this and ty for opening up our minds more.
Your style and approach to explaining how the galaxy look and function is just breathtaking! Great job Doctor. As a result, I definitely will visit the museum in the near future .
Good stuff. If we replay the motions which Gaia now reveals for neighbors, are there any past near transits that might coincide with major past climatic fluctuations or extinction events?
Not quite. See, you have current position, velocity and direction for all these star. From that, you can make linear plots. What you cannot make is accurate predictions because all the stars here are constantly being influenced by the complex gravity fields of other moving objects in the galaxy. Add in the uncertainty of dark matter and dark energy, and all plotting predictions going forwards or backwards becomes increasingly erroneous in an exponential way. Watch the video at 15:30 and notice all the star pairs/groups are moving in straight lines across those millions of years. In reality, they would be moving in curves as they proceed through and with gravity of all other objects.
Still, very educational and entertaining! :-)
@@valkyriefrost5301 thats a good point, but i would still be very interested to see that information. for stars that are close enough or moving fast enough, i think even a straight-line approximation would probably still be fairly informative out to several millions of years.
@@Speedj2 I wish we could target our searches towards comets (perturbed by our past millions years nearby stars passing us by). I wish we could see where we could expect oort-cloud hits, but we're nowhere near that precision. So it's still "same old" look out at every direction and hope a killer-comet is not coming from near the sun (only about four days warning period), then hope we can make difference in trajectory in few months we would have left.
Sholz star fucked us really bad 70k years ago
@Geo Well yeah, obviously. Anything larger than ~20 km across is likely to have caused all life on Earth to go extinct! The Chicxulub impactor is only hypothesized to have been 10 to 15 km across and that (apparently) caused the entire Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event.
A near transit might simply perturb Oort or Kuiper Belt objects sufficiently to "stir" them up and send a few on reoriented trajectories that impact Earth.
I love to see hear passion in her voice and see it on her face
I know right.... Not nearly enough women have interest in something outside of a selfie; lunch with the girls.. .etc.... (So it seems anyway)... So yeah this is really a turn on lol..
@Welsh Simon you're not wrong.
@Benaiah Ahmadinejad word
I would like to see MY passion....on her face....lol
@@GabeTheGun1 I just like her cute voice
Wow, wow wow. I am flashed. Makes me humble and thoughtful.... We as humans only have this world and how are we treating it! Space, we only can reach it in our dreams. Thank you for this excellent presentation.
Wow......I actually was able to comprehend some of the presentation. What a leap forward.!
Awesome presentation, I wish science teachers could be like her!
I wonder why most intelligent science people choose not to teach?
Brilliant. Inspiring. Enlightening. Powerful. Important. Just a few words that could never do justice to an accomplishment of this magnitude. Here's two more words, "thank you."
Important was a stretch
What’s up with all the negativity? She is an amazing presenter. I’m a physics teacher myself, and I was enthralled by the whole thing.
Exactly. This was a beautiful presentation!
I think the "fake news" comment just triggered the youtube trolls. LOL!
The usual men who cant stand a woman cos she doesn't go into all the mathematical shit they want to hear cos theyre losers with no imagination.
In a million years, whatever we become will likely have the ability to move anywhere in this universe and beyond, instantly at will...Frighteningly powerful......So powerful that the only respite would be to forget start again.
It's so sad that if this was a song video or a cat putting a hat on it would a hundred times the views and comments! We are so lucky to have this brilliant mind blowing information available at a push of a few buttons. I think about the graph paper we had on our school ceiling representing time and the mobile solar systems we had hanging in our science classrooms and think who could have dreamed we would have this information in such a short period of time. The next decade and beyond is going to bring things we are not capable of even imagining!
I have to ask. Why should I be afraid? All of the scenarios the presenter said that we shouldn't be afraid of, but do be afraid anyway, won't happen for least one million years.
So I have have to ask, again. Why should we be afraid?
terb reduob Understood. But I'm still not afraid. 😎
@@MarkOden Well, basically, I think she showed star (with its own oort-cloud of comets) passing our star "soon", so you could conclude that earlier stars passing through our oort cloud would perturb stones and they would be hitting us. Nothing we can do about it now, she did not say we should advance our monitoring of space so we don't get wiped out ("like dinosaurs"). Though dinosaurs were on their way out anyhow, a hit by comet just speeded it up a bit.
She didn't say it directly but add 10-10000x amount of stars to any video she showed and you may get a decent picture what's happening... We need a plan to divert stuff dropping our way.
That's why she said 'don't be afraid, but do be afraid'. Just like when you look into the Yellowstone Super Volcano or the other things that could cause extinction level events for earth in the far far future. They're things that are scary, but so far away or unknown that its not worth actually being scared about.
Justin Miller Your analogy is comparing a person with a bad heart wondering if they will ever have a heart attack to someone with a bad heart wondering if a jet plane will ever fall on them.
@@MarkOden I don't get why you didn't like his analogy. He was on point with it. What this data shows is, that stars are "constantly" passing by. This can cause asteroids or comets getting pushed into our solar system, potentially hitting earth. Before that "we didn't think" that other stars would pass us so frequently.
Its scale means "Don't be afraid, this is stuff that might happen in a million years or so". Its implications mean "But be afraid" because you should always remember: The universe is very hostile towards life. The fact we're here, is dumb luck. Dumb luck can run out over night.
This captured beauty of a world beyond our little dot is an absolutely inspiration..Thank you for sharing!
"Science" is a method of study, not a body of knowledge.
The mind is not a vessel to be filled, but a fire to be lighted. Plutarch
Scientific knowledge is based on the scientific method.
Science literally comes from the Latin for "knowledge."
And most sciences began as religions, but that etymology does not change the definition of the term.
Science is both a set of methods for studying as well as containing a body of knowledge.
She is so friggin amazing and cool
You said it!!!!!
Great delivery, awesome knowledge and kickass energy. Showing Neil DeGrasse how its done!
@@VonSC2 I wouldn't be surprised if NDGT wasn't in the audience and every bit as awe-stricken as the rest of us!
@Benaiah Ahmadinejad bahahaha, your comment stopped me from puking at all the unwhitingly-sexist patronizing simps
65 year old man here; I wish I was being born tomorrow to see what great 'stuff' Jackie Faherty discovers!! Happy to have enjoyed the Museum of Natural History for many years.
Science is very magical.
LOL This isn't science, it is mere spectacle
Caesar Vespasian yeah, ok. Its not science huh? Are u a Flat Earther too? If so, I just wasted lots of science sending a message to irrelevant person.
Caesar Vespasian "spectacle" could be better used on a topic such as Stalins "Show Trials"....not so good here.
Very Magical is Science.🤔
We benefit greatly from expand our consciousness beyond the smallest of petty activities in our daily lives. We are part of this living Universe. It's important to be reminded of this.
Thank you.
Beautifully done! I, for one, strongly believe that while scientific analysis should always be done with dispassion, presentation of such findings should always be with passion. Sadly, in most cases, we get the opposite: we get passionate research and dispassionate, boring presentations. Not so with this one! The amount of enthusiasm is so dense that it's almost tangible. How anyone can hate this, I don't understand at all. Kudos and well done! Love from S Asia!
According to the simulations, the stars seem to be travelling on something. No of them seems to be colliding into each other. More like what you'd expect if you had balls in a liquid or other fabric. They don't look like they are forming.
I'd love this as one of those audio visualiser.
Collision is a good point of your remarks.
Thank You Jackie! You're 1000 times smarter than Neil Tyson. Anyway, Loved your presentation.
I don’t think so 🥳
Reading the comments leads me to wish that the Andromeda Galaxy was hitting us tonight
And I pray, both Faherty & Doherty survive.
I Love this woman's presentations. She is the reason I subscribed to this channel.
Love this! Thank you for sharing!
Holy fook, I can't wait to see what insights come out of the new datasets
Gaia Sky is a wonderful app for exploring the stars that have been mapped by Gaia. It is quite beautiful and I believe offers 3D if you have the capability. Unfortunately, I do not.
Give yourself a few years. She said a laptop cant handle it. It will a few years from now. It will be a mobile app before 2022.
Thank You .. Merci .. very well presented by "Jackie Faherty" of American Museum of Natural History ..!!
I love this Amazing presentation thank you!
Oh ho ho, my daughter was bit by the astronomy bug last year and she is going to love this!
Its really good she told what I should be excited about. Otherwise I would have no idea.
Doesnt look anything like an expanding universe.
surprise (to me) satellite deep in space. THE BEST CHRISTMAS GIFT EVER!!!!
Great presentation! I’m glad that she talks to the kids at the end-they’re the future generation of astronomers. I’m also glad to see it’s a she and not a he-not that I have anything against guys, but women have typically not been associated with astronomy, and it’s a welcome change in the last few years that we see more and more of them. Hopefully, this will bring more kids and more girls/women to STEM!
Dr. Faherty has great energy. Great video.
There are more stars in the sky, than all of the grains of sand in all the Earth's beaches.
💚👽
Yes , even more so. You get it. 😀👽💙 Screw all those flat earther idiots.
Vermin Killah 👽👍🏻
So cool. I cannot wait to see what and how JWST contributes to the 3D rendering of the galaxy! Also, I'm a little sad It's taken me 3 years to find this video.
Brown stars. It's like rolling over in bed and someone is there. Oh my, you are hysterical. That said, the visualizations were extremely interesting. Thank you so much and best wishes to you. (Oh, and I'm not worried about what will happen 1.2 million years from now. My daughter is getting married in June. That's enough stress for now! Thank you again.
Brilliant presentation.
I am a retired Oracle and SQL Server developer and I would have been thrilled to have loaded these data into a database and run statistical analyses on the data or developed queries to extract subsets of the data.
Also, I think if they could have gotten a better close up of Oumuamua, they would have seen that it had "Send more Chuck Berry" printed on it.
Wow, Jackie.... this is fascinating! Thank you!
this is Stellar cartography you people have an awesome job I'm jealous
Jackie is a very good presenter. I wish I had those skills and that level of knowledge.
Being alive in 2018 is awesome.
I wish I had your sentiment
being alive when that other star passes through our oort cloud would be even more interesting. What a sht storm of debris that will cause! It'll be epic. Heavy bombardment 2.0
What are you talking about?2018 should have never happened!
@@7sidedmint136 No it wasn't.
Only if you grew up before social media.... today ain't shit
i wish i was born 20 million years from now and get to explore and make new friends throughout this universe, possibly other universe as well
I agree that this is super-Awesome. That Kepler thing @ 23:23 in the video looks amazingly regular and cube-shaped, when one would think (based on the standard model) that it would appear more random and fuzzy, if not spiral-shaped or vortex-shaped. Interestingly, this agrees with the model of Ernest Sternglass [book: BEFORE THE BIG BANG (1997, 2001)], which is available from Amazon. Best, Mark Creek-water Dorazio, amateur physics/astronomy enthusiast, Phoenix, Arizona, USA
She mentioned it was a 3D projection from the relatively flat perspective of telescopes on Earth. I suppose that means the shape isn't accurate. Not sure if that's what she was saying or not.
I am nerdy and antisocial person, so I am bad at distinguishing whether someone is sarcastic or not. For maintain my own sanity, I suppose you are just kidding now. But for the case you are not: that cube shaped picture is cube shaped, because that is the shape of multiple cube shaped CCD receievers (cameras) inside the telescope. Your comment made me think that this video, as she mentioned, "broke the internet" not because it is interesting, but because people though the same think as you. Now excuse me, I have to go kill myself.
@@TommyTMOD Hi Tommy: I was not being sarcastic, but it's true that I did not realize that the cube shaped picture is based on the shape of the cameras. However, my comment still holds true, as you might realize if you read Sternglass's book BEFORE THE BIG BANG. In Sternglass's model, the galaxies and stars form in a way which is different from the explanation given by the standard model. The book is available from Amazon.
Nothing's ever in real life photos they always give us CGI and data composites
i salute Jackie Faherty
sweet exciting presentation, outstanding vision,
outstanding guide to help us feel our galactic disk swarm of stars
Exciting and brilliant speaker, fascinating and mind-blowing science!!!! Over the top!! Thanks!!
Where is the unedited version without any of the cuts? this video has several parts cut out.
she uses the word "magic" a lot, doesn't she? ;))
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Science we don't understand is magic. So it is absolutely fine, considering the audience.
and used it with the appropriate disclaimers
Blown away..... beyond words...
thank you jackie.a beautiful presentation of a voyage into the dapet of the obese. life is a mouvement. everything star from one point. and everything is a living being .
Who out in space took the pic of Gaia... lol
mauri man I didn’t know stars had a mind of there own, cause I’ve seen a video of tens of thousands of bats flying in a real close proximity of each other and they do not collide she’s showing us nothing but CGI’s .
L T dude as she said it’s a computer projection of the future movements based on the datas collected from gaia. Do you really thought it was a video taken from an iPhone? Lol
The wonder of all of it really gets the mind racing... The SIZE and magnitude of scale is amazing... the motion simulates
something familiar... I cant quite put my finger on it... can it be something real simple we are not seeing yet?
so the earth is not flat? ;)
Let’s not get too far ahead now. Earth is still flat, just the galaxy is flat here
...gosh, thats to complicated..;)
@Will Pack why dont you do the experiments for yourself and find out what shape it is? is it too hard? or you are still in the primary school?
SOOOO ....is it flat or not ???? :D
@Will Pack In case you did not know, most of the flat-earthers are very religious, and their goal is to keep the literal meaning of the "earth is flat" from the bible, thus them being against everything that proves otherwise!
Researchers at Darmstadt Technical University have now managed to stop light. This tells us that the speed of light is not a constant. Many scientists believe light is slowing down therefore the distances they have plotted for stars could be incorrect.
Wait so they are at the Museum of Natural History talking about astronomy and not using the planetarium?
I was there two years ago and I had to cry when no other than the voice of Neil deGrasse Tyson made me understand the expansion of the universe while the projection on the dome engulfed me in 180° from left to right and top to bottom of pure space awesomeness.
Gaia-data with that would just blow my head clean off.
"The Milky Way as You’ve Never Seen It Before", i think that no one really ever saw it b4
It's great to hear someone speak who is passionate about the subject.👍👍👍👍👍
Summary. Rendering of data. we have best data visualizations . We will fill in the missing data . Open up a say ahhhhh ... science , magical Oooh science, more renderings , say science again . Foundation, how far is it away ? Science, I mean extrapolation. Good grief people
yes, all that we heard was "i'm gonna"..."my"..."I"..."me flying"... presenter centric self references and then "this is science"..."science brings you"..."render"..."never before done"..."I do awesome work". In the end, nothing outside of the known.
Fantastically interesting. Imagine in 30 years what view we will have.
Correction, that is the CGI of satellite Gaia.
I hope you are able to teach many other people because you are great at it. You make the information fairly simple to a wide verity of intelligence levels In terms of knowledge of astronomy. Your enthusiasm for your subject is clear and powerful. I hope we hear more from you in the future.
Jackie has extensive knowledge, enthusiasm and presentational skills.......that's what you need to be a good presenter. Oh, by the way, the answer to life, the Universe and everything is........is!........well, you know what it is!
*****snow flake trigger warning****** she thinks science is not subjective and not fake news...........................this message brought to you by the power of science
Nah.... Clearly a dumbass. (same shit I guess)
By definition of "scientific theory" it's NOT fake news. Let me guess.... Your knuckle dragging dumbass is gonna highlight the word "theory" n say "see, it's jus a theory, not fact" huh??? Don't lie ya dipshit!!! Hahaha.... There's a HUGE difference between popular definition of theory, and actual "scientific theory". So.... Buy a dictionary first, then work your way forward. Ok jackass??
“Has it ever struck you that life is all memory, except for the one present moment that goes by you so quick you hardly catch it going?”― Tennessee Williams......................
Plasma she needs help profusely,smart ppl prove ignorance beyond doubts.
I don't always listen to most people...but when I do, I listen to the good ones.
too much talk not enough photos...blah...blah...blah..
There's a lot of selling to do.
Stick to Playboy then.
ur right too much talk and less details
Lol you are going to do great in college.....
You sound like trump at national security breifings
“Science is fact...science is truth.. not some fact check whatever..” then turns around and says “ we do t know if these calculations are correct...we can’t be for sure if this was its trajectory...” ummm yeah more CGI... more art.. more filling in the gap with what we think happened....
Now you are stretching it, Are you from CNN by chance?
Chris Montgomery how Am stretching it? Please don’t tell me you are one of those people that believes everything he sees without doing your own research. Growing up I remember a “Theory” was science best guess. Now A theory is considered fact. At the end of the video she invites everyone to “Download” their software and play with their data, which earlier she had said they aren’t sure their data is correct. I can come to my own conclusions based on the material provided. Can I be wrong yes. But to say I’m stretching it...? C’mon bro.. by the way I work for........*************(Top secret)shhh....
You type on the product of many years of compounded accurate science built upon eachother. You have a better system of discerning truth than the scientific method? Present it.
Funny, CGI IS science. I bet this type of people can't even "program" an abacus.
No where in my comment did I mention I am against science, Nor did I make a claim CGI was not science. I was simply stating that a science theory was just that - “science best guess” which now a theory is considered to be the truth and if/when others oppose a theory that passes for truth you are ridiculed. We all need to look into information presented and come to your own conclusions and not be told what to think.
When time is turned on at about 12 minutes, for some reason I thought the stars would be all moving about the same speed but some of them are zooming around. And is it me or are more moving to the right than the left; and if so then why ?
Ain't photoshop great.
@dwarfedgiant ...sorry, I can see how my comment is confusing. The data tools used in the video are not Adobe tools and Photoshop was likely not used in the animations. My comment was directed at the printed and online depictions of celestial objects atrificially colored for emphasis and marketing. Glamorizing science is a disservice to real science imho. Similar animations use Adobe products to benhance videos here on youtube. When the lines are blurred between things like videos of future missions to Mars and actual data displays the result causes misunderstanding of actual scientific accomplishments. The amazing looking posters of our Galaxy for example, inspire and cause layperson's/tax payers to think astronomy projects are more advanced, sometimes winning bids for nsf contracts for example. It helps astronomy groups attract tax money and in in some cases ecological destruction as is the case with out most sacred mountain in Hawaii.
Yes regarding my use of ps and Adobe products. I like to make things appear better than reality. But I like to think I'm more honest by telling people when something like an image has been enhanced. I don't really take raw data and make it appear heavenly. Thanks for helping to clarify.
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