FYI: These engines make 110kw (150hp) at the CRANK from stock. That’s about 88kw at the wheels (118hp). Then you have to add in the loss of power over 30years of running, it probably had about 80kw N/A at the wheels. So 32kw (42hp) gain from 3psi of boost is fricken awesome. Not to mention the torque gains. Now let’s put 10psi up her and see how she goes 😝.
That's a tiny blower for a 2l kinda wonder why not just start with an m90? Not sure how hard they are to come by there but in the USA I can go to the junkyard any day of the year and pull one off a 3800scII for 35 out the door and I know those are happy making 3-400hp don't know kw well lol.
These motors make 110kw at the crank from factory. Calculating a 20% drivetrain loss is 88kw at the wheels not to mention power lost over time being a 30 or so year old engine. So 110kw at the wheels with just 3psi boost is actually super impressive. 10psi and she'll be perfect I reckon.
What crank to sc pulley ratio were you runing here? It should do way better. Still, some gains are better then no gains, its a cool project. I too have even smaller supercharger, m62 on a larger engine. With proper calculations and map I have dynoed over 300hp, from 231 chp stock. If id use SC14, this gain would be quite bigger.
He didn’t need an intercooler because the Sc is so close to the intake right? If it was on the other side he’d wanna run the outlet through intercooler pipe and the other end of the intercooler pipe would go to the throttle body? I’m looking at buying this SC for my Camry
The aim was to not spend $$ on this build but use what I had lying round. All of those numbers are at the crank so they don't actually make that much power. The T18 feels crazy to drive now it's actually a little scary haha. 10psi will see an easy 140kw and she'll rip!
Mike, I like what you do here. If you could just find a way to hold the camera a little more still it would make everything a lot easier to watch. Thanks for the all hard work, lovin' the T18. :-)
Hey mate good videos. Give me encouragement to get mine done. I’ve got a SC14 on a 20v 4age in a 73 Corona not running yet but will hopefully after lockdown.
is your maf plugged in? i tried a positive displacment supercharger like that, maf->SC->throttle, and it didnt run very well. seemed like the supercharger was pulling more than the engine wanted, threw everything off, alpha n worked pretty good, before i blew the charger up
pretty close to what i guessed at 165hp but i assumed the sc would be running 5psi. looks like it has heaps of low end torque though, normal b20's are as bad as rb20's before 4,500rpm lol
Hello again bro,i sent you also msg at IG but propably didnt see it.. Dont use diverter valve,it makes it noisy and also has surge! Use an idle bypass valve from mini cooper! There are plenty of them at ebay,they arent pricey. With a valve like that,it drives much better,better throttle response,better fuel economy,supercharger is cooler and has linear torque output. Mine currently is running only at 1 PSI because of the small pulley on supercharger and because of the huge intake from M50. Although ruuning so little boost, it has MUCH torque from 2k rpms until 7k. After lockdown ill make a huge pulley for spinning the supercharger 18k rpms (now it spins only 11k)... Cheers and love from Greece brother! stay safe
Hey George! that's cool, thanks for the info. Remember you need a SMALLER pulley on the supercharger to make more boost, not bigger. A bigger pulley will spin the supercharger slower. 🤓
Indeed mate! But i use the AC pulley to spin the charger,so its simpler to make a bigger crank pulley, than buy or make a smaller for charger...It is 122mm,I'll make a 180mm one. Your gain at the wheels is definitely mad from only 3 psi of boost, we wait another dyno with a smaller pulley!
These motors make 110kw at the crank from factory. Calculating a 20% drivetrain loss is 88kw at the wheels not to mention power lost over time being a 30 or so year old engine. So 110kw at the wheels with just 3psi boost is pretty good. 10psi and she'll fricken party!
Ok we are spoiled in the US 😂 when I read M50 I immediately thought B25 cause that's the only M50 we have. I was so lost on how low the power was until I read it was a B20 😂
Hans Jürgen FYI: These engines make 110kw (150hp) at the CRANK from stock. That’s about 88kw at the wheels (118hp). Then you have to add in the loss of power over 30years of running, it probably had about 80kw N/A at the wheels. So 32kw (42hp) gain from 3psi of boost is fricken awesome. Not to mention the torque gains. Now let’s put 10psi up her and see how she goes 😝
Do you know how many kilometers are on the engine? I want to do this to my e46 m52tub25 but she has 295xxx kms dont know if its worth cause she might blow awesome content mike stay safe!
Hey Nolan! Not quite sure but she definitely has a lot of k's on her haha. Easily over 200k that's for sure. Do a comp test, if it's all good, go nuts!
These motors make 110kw at the crank from factory. Calculating a 20% drivetrain loss is 88kw at the wheels not to mention power lost over time being a 30 or so year old engine. So 110kw at the wheels with just 3psi boost is a 20% power increase. 10psi will see about 140-150kw
Makes less than 88kw NA. I should have done an NA dyno and an SC dyno for you guys haha. Remember 110kw stock is at the CRANK. Not wheels. 20% power loss through the driveline = 88kw. When driving it, the SC makes a HUGE difference.
FYI: These engines make 110kw (150hp) at the CRANK from stock. That’s about 88kw at the wheels (118hp). Then you have to add in the loss of power over 30years of running, it probably had about 80kw N/A at the wheels. So 32kw (42hp) gain from 3psi of boost is fricken awesome. Not to mention the torque gains. Now let’s put 10psi up her and see how she goes 😝.
What diff you run in there ?
hey mike, whats the displacement of this engine?
@@BlacknRedSN95 he said it is a m50b20, so its a 2L engine
That's a tiny blower for a 2l kinda wonder why not just start with an m90? Not sure how hard they are to come by there but in the USA I can go to the junkyard any day of the year and pull one off a 3800scII for 35 out the door and I know those are happy making 3-400hp don't know kw well lol.
@@oliverscorsim$2-800 pending condition over here.
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I dont understand... These engines make 110kw stock, how did you manage to get less kw with a sc?
These motors make 110kw at the crank from factory. Calculating a 20% drivetrain loss is 88kw at the wheels not to mention power lost over time being a 30 or so year old engine. So 110kw at the wheels with just 3psi boost is actually super impressive. 10psi and she'll be perfect I reckon.
@@itsmikelake didnt know that the power measured on dyno was to the wheel... Thanks for response
My Last m50b20 got Stock 114kw on the dyno , hmm . Without changing Something.
@@peppo7575then the dyno measured drivetrain losses through rollout and calculated crank hp
Yee cant wait till mines up n ripping too. Give me motivation! Cheers on your good work all the way over here from the states!
Cheers boys! I hope you guys are doing okay over there with everything going on. Stay safe!
We did these sorts of things back in the day before I had kids I'm thinking about getting a old school mini 2 highly modifiy
She skids well and all those cars look mint
Cheers bro! So stoked she sounds rad hey.
@@itsmikelake yeah bro can't wait to see it sideways on some streets
What crank to sc pulley ratio were you runing here? It should do way better. Still, some gains are better then no gains, its a cool project. I too have even smaller supercharger, m62 on a larger engine. With proper calculations and map I have dynoed over 300hp, from 231 chp stock. If id use SC14, this gain would be quite bigger.
He didn’t need an intercooler because the Sc is so close to the intake right? If it was on the other side he’d wanna run the outlet through intercooler pipe and the other end of the intercooler pipe would go to the throttle body? I’m looking at buying this SC for my Camry
My 2azfe long block is remanufactured with upgraded internals cost me 1670$ for the whole thing shipping 1995$
Sounds sick bro. As for power though wouldnt you be better with an m50b25 or m52 2.8? they make like 140kw stock
The aim was to not spend $$ on this build but use what I had lying round. All of those numbers are at the crank so they don't actually make that much power. The T18 feels crazy to drive now it's actually a little scary haha. 10psi will see an easy 140kw and she'll rip!
Can’t wait to see it skid. Should wrap the flares to suit the chrome trim around the windows.
Mike, I like what you do here. If you could just find a way to hold the camera a little more still it would make everything a lot easier to watch. Thanks for the all hard work, lovin' the T18. :-)
Thanks bro! I reckon i'll look into buying a new camera with stabilisation inbuilt ASAP. Appreciate the feedback 🤓.
Nice T-18! I am picking up mine on tuesday :D
Good work mate keep at it
Thank you bro!
Would you need a bonnet vent with pod filter because it's facing backwards or would it get enough air through the grill?
I'm actually going to cut in a bonnet vent 🤓
Hey mate good videos. Give me encouragement to get mine done. I’ve got a SC14 on a 20v 4age in a 73 Corona not running yet but will hopefully after lockdown.
is your maf plugged in? i tried a positive displacment supercharger like that, maf->SC->throttle, and it didnt run very well. seemed like the supercharger was pulling more than the engine wanted, threw everything off, alpha n worked pretty good, before i blew the charger up
Why didn’t you go with a m50b25 or something a bit bigger like the 328i engine? They aren’t overly expensive
This build is made from spare parts I had lying around. The aim was to spend little to no $$. I have my e36 for big power fun 🤓
Might be an exhaust leak still. After you tightened and started to put on trailer, exhaust still blew out by the front wheel
Definitely needs a new gasket for sure haha
Hell yeah just full sending it
pretty close to what i guessed at 165hp but i assumed the sc would be running 5psi. looks like it has heaps of low end torque though, normal b20's are as bad as rb20's before 4,500rpm lol
Haha you're spot on! Feels like a completely different car at 3psi. New pulley is on the way that should make 10-12psi. Should be fun 🤓.
hi check the vanos when you have to shut it down it will increase power
I'm looking to buy a T18 hard to find
Yeah they’re super rare now. Such a cool car!
@@itsmikelake yeah they look super cool slammed down, if you find one let me know bro
Do you know where to buy a smaller pulley for a good price? looking for one too
Here's where I get mine! www.ebay.com.au/itm/82mm-SC14-toyota-supercharger-pulley/250906972015?hash=item3a6b388f6f:g:SFkAAMXQtslRY65g
How did u gap the spark plugs ?? And can you do it if it has 3 point tip
Denushka De Joodt I run Bkr7e spark plugs in all of my M5x engines. They’re a single point tip and easy to gap!
@@itsmikelake how much is the gap?
Hello again bro,i sent you also msg at IG but propably didnt see it.. Dont use diverter valve,it makes it noisy and also has surge! Use an idle bypass valve from mini cooper! There are plenty of them at ebay,they arent pricey. With a valve like that,it drives much better,better throttle response,better fuel economy,supercharger is cooler and has linear torque output. Mine currently is running only at 1 PSI because of the small pulley on supercharger and because of the huge intake from M50. Although ruuning so little boost, it has MUCH torque from 2k rpms until 7k. After lockdown ill make a huge pulley for spinning the supercharger 18k rpms (now it spins only 11k)... Cheers and love from Greece brother! stay safe
Hey George! that's cool, thanks for the info. Remember you need a SMALLER pulley on the supercharger to make more boost, not bigger. A bigger pulley will spin the supercharger slower. 🤓
Indeed mate! But i use the AC pulley to spin the charger,so its simpler to make a bigger crank pulley, than buy or make a smaller for charger...It is 122mm,I'll make a 180mm one. Your gain at the wheels is definitely mad from only 3 psi of boost, we wait another dyno with a smaller pulley!
Isnt this less power then what that motor has stock??
These motors make 110kw at the crank from factory. Calculating a 20% drivetrain loss is 88kw at the wheels not to mention power lost over time being a 30 or so year old engine. So 110kw at the wheels with just 3psi boost is pretty good. 10psi and she'll fricken party!
hey Mike, awesome build, did you do anything to your ccv system while adding boost ? i believe you suppose to have that del?
Cheers John! I deleted it and ran the lines to a catch can to let the engine breathe. Hope that helps!
Underrated car
Not the swap i would do but i respekt it thank for the conten
Stay safe m8
Cheers bro! Haha weird swap I know. All made from random stuff I had lying round.
Ok we are spoiled in the US 😂 when I read M50 I immediately thought B25 cause that's the only M50 we have. I was so lost on how low the power was until I read it was a B20 😂
Original IT most habe 110kw. Whats the Problem wich dhis engine?
Hans Jürgen FYI: These engines make 110kw (150hp) at the CRANK from stock. That’s about 88kw at the wheels (118hp). Then you have to add in the loss of power over 30years of running, it probably had about 80kw N/A at the wheels. So 32kw (42hp) gain from 3psi of boost is fricken awesome. Not to mention the torque gains. Now let’s put 10psi up her and see how she goes 😝
@@itsmikelake perfekt
Do you know how many kilometers are on the engine? I want to do this to my e46 m52tub25 but she has 295xxx kms dont know if its worth cause she might blow awesome content mike stay safe!
Hey Nolan! Not quite sure but she definitely has a lot of k's on her haha. Easily over 200k that's for sure. Do a comp test, if it's all good, go nuts!
@@itsmikelake sounds good! Gonna pick up a t shirt soon! Keep up the good stuff
Needs a hard wood roof rack !!!
Ohhhh not a bad idea!
So u made a stock m50b20 power 😆
These motors make 110kw at the crank from factory. Calculating a 20% drivetrain loss is 88kw at the wheels not to mention power lost over time being a 30 or so year old engine. So 110kw at the wheels with just 3psi boost is a 20% power increase. 10psi will see about 140-150kw
Catching those m50b25s man nice little results for stage one man. Should like b25 now
Very similar! I'd say the powerband is better than the b25 because of how the SC is on from the get go. 10psi and she'll be a little animal!
Yeah diff gears will make a big difference too 👌
BMW z3 motor?
e36 320i motor 🤓
Shake that camera a bit more ay. I didn't get seasick enough!
Will try more for ya next time!
Prolly makes more power na, supeecharger is abbit small and very parasitic
Makes less than 88kw NA. I should have done an NA dyno and an SC dyno for you guys haha. Remember 110kw stock is at the CRANK. Not wheels. 20% power loss through the driveline = 88kw. When driving it, the SC makes a HUGE difference.
@@itsmikelake yeh k, i didnt realise thats how little they make stock, the sc sounds good nyway
The e12 535 motor sport engine is much more quicker😂