Lost Villages of Hull: Newland
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- On this episode of the Lost Villages of Hull, I look at a part of West Hull that's well-known and fascinating, and was spared much of the cramped, industrial horror of Sculcoates by being the home of many of Hull's wealthiest and most powerful people; Newland.
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The pink floyd blaring out on the avenues was me. I live on Marlborough Avenue!
Your videos are becoming more and more professional, and are as informative as ever. Enjoying these virtual trips around my old stomping grounds all the way from Recife, Brazil😊
Blimey, you're a long way from home. Glad you're enjoying the videos!
Best yet Jim. You have grown into this, it seems second nature now. Newland is well known to me, I grew up on De Grey Street, at the property now known as the Adelphi! In those days (early '50s) it was the Civil Service Sports and Social Club of which my mother was the licensee and steward. My dad looked after the snooker tables (two competition standard examples, played on by Sidney Smith, ex-World Champion, in an exhibition watched by me) and served behind the bar in the evenings. You mention an extension to the rear but all of that was there in the '50s. There was our accomodation upstairs and a 'cocktail bar' that looked out on the railway embankment. Downstairs, there was an entrance hall, table tennis room, snooker room, beer cellar and club bar. Just shows how life goes on, my middle son went to the Adelphi when he was at Hull Uni, not realising it had been my home while I went to Newland Avenue Infants school, followed by Lambert Street Junior school. He lives down Victoria Avenue now so your piece has been very personal, thank you.
That's awesome, thanks for filling in some blanks I couldn't fill about the Adelphi's past life!
Thanks for the films they are so great as I live in London these days . We moved to Ryde Ave when Harley Street Doctors surgery closed. Was best thing to happen to our family my Mum went to Newland Girls School. I went to The Hayworth music nights and Piper club..delivered papers to Adelphi and the University on my pushbike.
I went to Newland High School.Never really knew where Newland came from.Thanks
Another great video of my local area. & great to see the 'wall painting' of local celebrities at the top of my street. Thanks for all the local info 👍
Seeing the big junction threw me back to what seems a life time ago,our first home together was a flat above a post office, on Beverley rd,on the other side was Jackson's club,and does anyone remember the takeaway called Sorrento's that was also at the junction,also worked on Beverley rd at a restaurant called Ristaronte Italia,remember the area with great fondness and I've still never seen anywhere with as many cherry blossom trees 40 odd years on and hope things go well there.👍
I worked in a hairdressers on Chants Ave in early 90’s. I had Clients who had lived on the Avenues and yes, a diverse range of people. Also a lady who was then in her 80’s, she had used the same salon since being a girl and had lived in the terraces west of Chants Ave, she told me of her first perm where she was plugged into permanent wave machine, the whole process took hours.
this legend knows his stuff
No longer living in Hull but still return regularly, occasionally with friends who are amazed by my knowledge of the city’s history. 😂 Many thanks once again, always a pleasure.
I was born in and raised in Hull but now live in Australia and I find these videos fascinating. Please keep these superb videos coming HHN.
Great video as always! Victoria Ave did have a fountain once upon a time, but it was removed apparently in the 1920s/30s (little in the way of records on this, according to HCC). There’s been a local fundraising effort to restore the fountain, going on for over a decade, which finally hit its target last year. All being well there should be a beautiful (functioning!) replica fountain installed by the summer - worth a return visit :)
There was a fountain installed much later, but it didn't receive one during construction like the other three junctions. I should have mentioned that one was later built though!
Im Australian, but I lived in Newland (de Grey) for 5 years during pandemicish time. Interesting place
fantastic video as always HHN, keep them coming. I look forward to the next one, thank you
St Augustine's, 'that didn't last that long into the 20th Century', I wasn't sure if you mean it was replaced as the centre of worship, or was demolished in the early 20th Century. In any case, my parents told me I was baptised there in 1969, we lived down St Augustine's Avenue. 'The Lost Churches and Chapels of Hull' indicates that the church was demolished in 1976.
Really enjoying watching these engaging videos, thanks for giving me the food for thought.
Sorry, I meant it didn't last long as the official Avenues church before being replaced by St Cuthberts! I think I probably didn't make that by clear in the video - I was ploughing through a LOT of stuff very quickly I think!
So interesting. I used to work on Beverley Road and am familiar with Newland.
Another excellent video. So interesting and informative. I love the architecture in that area and the roundabout statues.
It is a great area to wander round and enjoy the architecture, so much variety and spread across so many periods!
Good idea to refer to the Snuff Mill Lane episode with this one. 🌟👍
Loving watching this, born on Sutton road in a prefab. Then moved to an estate off Bricknell
Ave. Went to Kelvjn Hall. My dad's family were from Hull. His grandfather was a skipper on a square rigged sailing ship that plied between Hull and Russia. Dad was in the fire brigade and I used to ride my scooter down Clough road to pop and see him at the fire station. Oh happy memories.
I hit like before I even pressed play, because I just know it will be brilliant.
Me too 😊
I really hope you weren't disappointed!
@@hullhistorynerd Not a chance, it was brilliant as expected. My grandparents are gone now but I have memories of the stories they told me about growing up before the war, Beverley road, Barmy drain etc. I love hearing all this history. Thanks for doing all this.
@@msgretrogamer Same here, my grandparents were kids during the war, grandma was evacuated to Malton. The stories they both used to tell of their lives were fascinating and from a world I couldn't even begin to imagine as a kid.
@@hullhistorynerd my grandad got evacuated to South Shields but my nana stayed throughout. Whenever there was a thunderstorm she used to go hide under the stairs. Nowadays it's known as ptsd but back then as kids we used to make fun of her :(
This brings back great memories. My girlfriend used to live on Cranbrook Avenue and I used to cycle over from Scarborough ON A BMX and we would go out down the avenues shopping, for drinks and then home or to Spiders in a taxi. Great memories. Thanks, great production as well.
Blimey, you cycled from Scarborough? On a BMX? I raise my hat to you, that's crazy dedication!
From Scarborough on a bmx Jesus she must ov been fit,was she a keeper 🤣
Thanks for another cracking vlog very interesting and nice to see a presenter looking very dapper
Why thank you, but credit where it's due, it all comes from charity shops!
Brilliant series of videos carry on making them please.
No danger of me stopping anytime soon!
Amazing you showed Grafton Street, where I used to live as a 4 - 6 year old. Went to Sidmouth Steet school until 1966. I remember it well (I think!). Many happy memories of Monica fisheries, the Monica cinema (Now the Piper club, converted in 1965 I think), trolley buses etc. Great times as a kid, lots to do see and learn. We used to pronounce the Haworth Arms as 'Howerth' by the way...
Really? I've never once heard it pronounced that way! My stepdad used to be a regular in the Haworth Arms for many years, he always pronounced it Hay-Worth. One of those local oddities with pronunciation!
Just introduced my parents, from hull to your brilliant videos, they're now hooked! 👍
Thank so much for this! I'm the vicar of St Johns on Clough Rd and I'm still fairly new to Hull so this was fascinating. Any time you want to pop into St John's let me know!
Glad you enjoyed it, and thankyou for the kind offer!
Fantastic video. I was born in Hull & lived there for 27 years & knew nothing about the city. Now I know lots.
Great video. Really interesting. I was born on Holderness Rd but moved to West Hull down Beresford Ave in the late 70’s then Victoria Avenue. In the 80/90’s it was a place for musicians and that’s what I did until finally moving to NYC in 98. Still my favorite place and lots of great memories of The Avenues including The Grass House! If you remember that😆
Thanks again for your hard work!
Chris.
I don't think I ever came across the Grass House, what was it?
Ah that house completely covered in moss! I'd forgotten all about that!
I love my home city... So much history, the people, the inventions.
Beautifully done! I personally have many fond memories of Newland and The Avenues, The Hayworth Arms being a landmark on my bus journey from Beverley to Hull Uni for music lessons and stuff.. I remember seeing what's still visible of the original interiors of some of those big old houses, lovely black & white jacquard marble floors in hallways and such.. Another great episode, and for me another sweet trip down Memory Lane! Thanks so much for this. 🌟👍
It's good to see your obvious pride and enjoyment in that area. I lived there in my teens and cycled all around there, Newland Ave being a great place for shopping and decent second-hand clothes.
In more recent years, I've discovered the David Garbutt you mentioned was a cousin of mine. Now he really was a find on my family tree!
Blimey, that is a proper family tree find! And Newland is most definitely still a great place for shopping and for second hand clothes, some cracking charity shops down there!
Said it before, but I say it again, your content and style are worthy of television, expect a call soon.
Oh I very much doubt that, but thankyou nonetheless!
Very dapper! Keep up the good work
These are better than many TV programs on currently! The quality is far greater and your attention to detail make these an enjoyable viewing. I always feel a tad disappointed at the end of each knowing I have to wait for the next episode…. Thanks HHN keep up the great work
When my dad came back from the war with his German wife (mum) thats where they lived for10 years. They told me they were very happy times.
Excellent again, can see the pride in your area shining through. Being a Lambert St lad and roaming around the area on my bike, don't think there was an apple or pear tree safe in any of the Avenue house gardens when they were in season. Came across the odd grape vine aswell. The big corner houses on Salisbury St fared particularly badly in the 70s, they have done well to survive. Christened at Newland Methodist, school at Lambert, Newland and Sidmouth, then married a Chanterlands ave girl at St Cuthberts, lived on Clumber St, to say I have roots in the area is a bit of an understatement. Thanks again for your work.
Yeah, I remember those houses on Salisbury being derelict back on the 90s, I used to walk past them as they were being renovated. I was so happy that they were being saved.
Fantastic video of amazing history Of Hull! I am glad that the fate of my life brought me to this city and the Newland area was my first district where I lived after arriving to England.
Thank you Hull History Nerd! x
Since subscribing to your channel I've become fascinated by the social history of Hull, eagerly looking forward to your videos and then visiting myself the places you show. I recently saw a programme originally shown on Channel 4 about the singer Paul Heaton which featured the New Adelphi Club. Thank you for your time and effort which you put into making these videos. I'm sure it must be a labour of love and it is very much appreciated.
It is very much a labour of love - and a probably unhealthy dose of obsession, too!
Once again, my grateful thanks, Mr. Nerd, and my greetings from Leipzig - a long way from Froghall Lane.
Nice one HN. A couple of tangential or rather very nebulous connections. Our family money lender (we had two) who used to walk the streets of an evening with a leather satchel collecting money was a Mr Etherington, who lived in Cottingham. Wouldn't risk that today! My childhood girlfriend at 10 years old was a Botterill, not a common surname, whose father was an architect. I went to school with a Garbutt, another uncommon surname...
You mentioned the demographics of Hull eventually expanding. I'm sure you're familiar with the concept that the invention of the "safety bicycle" probably did as much as anything to expand the gene pool. People no longer confined to one area of a town, or especially a village, could wander off on a push bike to meet a girl from another part of town, or another village, fall in love, get married, punch out a number of kids, who themselves continued the expansion. I know this from my own formative years. My total world was confined to a couple of streets and didn't extend much beyond where my school was, in the next street. As I grew up, it was a bicycle that cost 30 bob from a gentleman friend of my gran when I was 12 which allowed me to explore the city. And explore it I did. An entire world opened up to me and probably countless thousands of snot-nosed postwar kids in industrial towns scattered across the North. Little did I know, that only 13 years later I would board a ship and sail halfway around the world to Australia.
Funny old world when you think of it....
My great-grandad worked in Hessle shipyard, and rode on his bike all the way from Westcott Street on Holderness Road every day! It began as people moving to be close to their job, but people stayed in the same area because of family. The bike certainly improved mobility, but universal telephone ownership, easy and cheap public transport and motor cars really put the final nail in the coffin of families living within a few streets of each other. It's a fascinating series of changes and improvements to the lifestyle and mobility of working people!
Living on Newland now for 3 years for the first time in my life, moving from much newer estates like bransholme and orchard Park. This video was great it's unreal how much of Hulls history I never heard of growing up, you'd think it would have been taught in my history class at least once 😅.
Brilliant information thanks 👍
Thank you for another interesting video Jamie. You may be interested in this memory. My great uncle Tom remembers when Clough Road was pronounced Clue Road. I wonder if anyone else had come across this.
Great video Jim. Always learn new things in your videos. Didn’t know about Chants. Ave being added later and then of course you explained why there’s the dip under the railway. All makes sense now 😊
My grandma played the organ at St John’s Newland sometimes when needed. She was the regular church organist at Newland Congregational on Beverley Road at both the original spired church and the replacement which was built in the 70s.
I grew up down Heathcote Street and have always been interested in the pronunciation of Haworth Arms and the famous Howarth in Yorkshire. Thanks for another great video.
Thoroughly enjoyed that. A fantastically crafted summary of the area. I was a Thoresby kid also, so can relate to a lot of that. It always interests me when we see the old maps, and all the houses and buildings we know of today are just empty fields or dead ends.
Thanks for your efforts Jim. Always look forward to the latest Nerd Vid.
brilliant,,,,,,,, brian d.
Great video as always lad 👍
Love this! Thanks for all of your content and work!
Two of my old flats on this one!
Aye, and one of mine, too - had to fit the old place in there somewhere!
I love your videos. I was born and raised on Huntley Drive, just the other side of the railway embankment, so the area you covered in this episode is very familiar to me. It has been over three decades since I left the area to live a few thousand miles away, but seeing you walk along the avenues brings back so many memories. Thank you. Keep the videos coming.
Absolutely amazing video, I usually watch them a few times just to take in all this info!
Cheers.
Another utterley superb video , every time you just keep raising the bar ,Thank You . PS Nice to see the HnB get a mention
You'll enjoy the video on the history of Alexandra Dock coming towards the end of February...
@@hullhistorynerd Excellent can't wait
In the late 70's I was at Hull Nautical College and stayed at Marvell Hall. I met my wife of 42 years who was staying opposite in Wilberforce Hall in the refectory there and had great times in the pubs around there. As students we eventually left but returned on a nostalgic visit a couple of years ago on a trip down memory lane. Wilberforce and Marvell had had their names consigned to history but it was much the same place we knew. Off message I can't say the same about the city centre.
Very interesting and superbly made. I'll be watching it again!
great work
Fantastic video! I'm from Taiwan, and lived in Hull for 5 years, in the Avenues! It's great to see them and recognise everywhere as it was, now that I've moved further north Geordieland~ I never really paid much attention to all the variety of houses, but it is great, I've had many nice walks in the Avenues, and that roundabout with seemingly no purpose has always been amusing to me xD
I used to live almost next to that roundabout and it fascinated me for years!
Really enjoying your videos as I walk many miles with my Husky around most of the areas you so expertly give information on.
Fantastic Video in every way 👌. So interesting and well presented as always! I really enjoy your work!! Thank you 👋
A great film Jamie, thank you so much.
Long time subscriber and viewer, first time to make a comment. Every time I hear your theme music, there's a part that reminds me of Ecstacy of Gold by Ennio Morricone. In this video, the music between 0:21s and 0:27s. Adjust the speed a little but keep the variation in notes.... Once you hear it, you can't un-hear it....maybe it's just me. Anyway, loving your work and have passed it on to family and friends who are now part of your audience 🙂
I've never heard that piece before, just went away and listened to it and you're right! Those first few notes are very similar! I guess there are only so many combinations of notes to be had, eh?
@@hullhistorynerd Have you never seen The Good, The Bad and the Ugly? ruclips.net/video/ubVc2MQwMkg/видео.html
Just perfect thanks Jim you did us proud
Absolutely brilliant 😊
I really enjoyed this one, thanks. Although I never actually lived in the Newlands area, it played a huge part in my teenage years during the early 1970s, as many of my friends lived around there and the Haworth Arms was our "local". The Haworth had a reputation as a pub where 16 and 17 year olds could get served at the bar, so it was always crammed with Sixth Formers as well as university and college students. They held discos upstairs at weekends, where "grass" and other, stronger psycho-active substances were alleged to be available, but we schoolkids stuck to bitter as far as I remember! As you mention in your video, in those days, Princes Avenue was a bit run down and certainly wasn't a hub for nightlife.
Brilliant though your video is, it feels as if you've barely scratched the surface of the area. Cottingham Road, with its institutions including the college, university, Newland High School and Marist College etc would make for an interesting programme in its own right.
There was just so much to cover, as with all of the Lost Villages so far! I could have talked about the Holderness Road cinemas in the Drypool episode, the Silver Hatchet Gang in the Sculcoates one, Newland Homes, the list goes on. Ultimately I try to keep these episodes to a reasonable length and tell an overview of the story of it, but rest assured, the other areas of interest that I didn't cover will most certainly get their moment in the spotlight in future videos!
I lived down Westbourne Avenue in the early 70's when I was young and giddy. One room, shared bathroom with a coin meter for the emersion heater. Forty quid a month if I remember correctly.
My old flat down there still had an immersion heater, I only left there a couple of years ago! Some landlords, eh? Still, the place was cheap!
Actually, I put forty quid but I wonder if it was cheaper. I know my car payments were forty....which was why I worked at Grattans during the day and Mecca on a night!
Great video!, I always see you at cottingham train station :)
Very likely, I'm often jumping on a train to Beverley or Hull!
Another excellent video, I had often wondered about the non roundabout when I took a short cut through years ago when working in Hull.
Great video again! Really learning a lot from all these. Makes me wish I could travel back in time and see it all.
You're not the only one, it would be a fascinating view to see only a handful of grand houses and terraces standing in the Avenues whilst all around was still fields!
as always superb
Thank you for your work 😀
Oh wow great video 📸😊 well not I was inspecting thro I was you was doing all the avenues and streets around that area but I have learned something I didn't know about the history of the avenues and Newland is lot bigger than thought
The thing is, a video has listing and describing all the streets would get pretty boring very quickly! I find it's much more fun to tell the story of an area rather than do an infodump!
once again thanks for a thoroughly interesting film..who would have thought these lost villages could be so interesting. If every town had someone like researching and filming their histories it would be amazing..
Luckily some places do have their own history nerds! For London, check out Jago Hazzard and Jay Foreman, and for Manchester, take a look at Martin Zero! They're doing awesome work delving into the histories of those places.
@@hullhistorynerd oh thanks for your reply. Yes I have been aware of both Martin Zero, gosh he is fearless! and I used to live in Manchester..also Jago Hazzard, I used to live in London too..I now live on Tyneside and yes we have loads of fascinating history here! A couple of years ago my sister and I went to teh British Library to see the man who was the descendant of the last Burmese king and my sister spotted Michael woods and we spoke to him as well. I had been watching his history documentaries on youtube..
Another brilliant video of Hull and the surrounds places, to think Newland part of cottingham ?? All my life I've known it to be what it is today and never thought it would have been bigger
But you see your video and the houses you mention and then ones in cottingham and it makes you think now.
Excellent as always HHN 😀
Nice one - thanks!
Really enjoyed that, very informative, I've lived down there for 19 years, spent my first 16 on Bransholme, so to move to that area was a massive change! I'm away with work now (home soon) so to see footage of where ill be soon was marvellous, on a couple of occasions my house was out of shot! And sorry to say again, Victoria will have a fountain soon!
Watched your Castle Hill vid (Bransholme Castle) a while ago, was such a place for us to go as kids early 90's, tge view of swine seemed mysterious to us kids from Kinloss, looking out in the 80's
Fingers crossed for the fountain, it's been on a promise for years! I should have mentioned in the video that it did eventually get one, but then lost it again!
Apparently Nick Drake played Haworth Arms. Looking forward to the Fordyke Stream episode. Quality, as ever
How about a video on the castles of holderness. Also William Wilberforce and the Humber Bridge. Hull has so much going for it. Even golf courses are worth a little mention if not enough for a video
I've already done three episodes on the castles of Holderness, Skipsea, Bransholme and Flamborough castles! I'll be doing Burstwick Castle at some point in the future, as well as episodes on famous Hull folk like Wilberforce, the De La Poles, Marvell, etc, and, if I can get access permissions, the Humber Bridge. All in good time!
@@hullhistorynerd thanks for answering. I went to Hull University, stayed Newlands area but in Spring Bank and Hessle and weekends were spent in the Newlands pub and many others. Hull has a lot going for it if compared to many other cities in the UK. In the 1960s we use to travel through Hull to grimsby fish docks for frozen fish food for supplies in Scarborough. Hull has lead an important part in my life living in Scarborough. Ferries. Then the bridge. Mother liked the shopping in Hull better than Leeds. I also bought one of the last Hull trawlers from Newington Trawlers and landed fish from this small stern trawler in Hull many times.
Your doing a grand job on local history. Please keep up the good work and look forward to your next episodes...
Excellent!
Just catching up on your videos. They are awesome. Even got my mum watching them although i had to teach her to use YouTUBE. An idea for a video. And I'm being serious here. Probably not the greatest subject for a local history video.
They knocked down the George pub st the Spring Bank West junction of Walton Street after a fire last year and after it was cleared up of debris, there seems to be the remnants of an old public gents toilet there. The drain was visible. White ceramic drains. It would seem that there were lots of on-street public toilets for gents around Hull. Besides this one on Spring Bank West, 1 at Chants Ave railway bridge near the petrol station, one on West Parade off Spring Bank at the side of what used to be The Tap n Spile pub. Both bricked up. I'd hazard a guess and say Hull was full of these little on street public conveniences. Was Hull full of incontinent men? A lost feature of Hull streets long gone? I've seen the iron spiral toilets in Amsterdam. Did Hull once have just as many?
Welcome to the channel, glad you and your mum are enjoying. All towns were covered in urinals back in the day, it was a curious thing!
Excellent stuff as always, how a bout the once affluent boulevard next, if you haven't done it already?
Not yet, that's certainly to come in the future, though, as part of Lost Villages: Myton!
Another very enjoyable vid. I admire your positivity. Like many parts of the city never built with the clutter of the cars and wheelie bins to come. I think the most uniform row is Hardy St., a step down from the avenues in scale but must have been a proud street in the 30s.
True, there are some lovely buildings along Hardy Street!
OK I was married in St Johns,, but I must pick up on your closing lines about working people living around Newland ave,,, I remember my step aunt being hound out of her house to make way for students ,,and it was not done in a kind and caring way ,not nice for an elderly lady 1988...
I think the blame for that lies in the landlord, not necessarily the students, sadly.
@@hullhistorynerd yeah sure it was landlords ,,but would they really been so keen if there was not such a profitable market from the university.. The area around Raglan st was gutted... on another note,,Waddingham leather employed quite a few people in the 60/70s
@@lipsee100 Perhaps, but you can't blame an area for the poor behaviour of landlords. My own experiences of landlords in Newland was also fairly terrible; my kitchen wall spent 8 years with plaster falling off it after a huge blocked gutter leak slowly leaked through the bricks, and I spent most of that time trying to get her to fix it, and she spent most of that time trying to get multiple workmen to blame me for it (they never did).
I think it's safe to say that's just landlords anywhere, they're a right dodgy bunch no matter where you are. I've only ever had one good landlord in my whole life! I remember viewing a property down Clumber Street that had a massive hole in the living room ceiling up into the bathroom. The landlord said "Don't worry about that, it will be sorted when you move in". Oddly they seemed very reluctant to take up my suggestion that we get it agreed and signed as a contract that this work would be fully completed and finished to a satisfactory quality before I moved in...
Looking smart Jim. New jacket. Another great video by the way.
A great charity shop find!
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🤣🤣Tie as well.
@@karlstonehouse4600 If you're gonna go paisley, might as well go FULL paisley...
I enjoyed that, having moved up Princes from Spring Bank to De Grey Street. I lived directly across from the Adelphi, in one of those houses that were boarded-up last time I was down there. We had a fruit machine that they put-out for collection in our "living room". It has all become quite pretentious and "" Bishy Road"(a notorious area of York where all the knobs live) around there now. Was second-hand white goods shops and Jackson's when I lived there.
When I was down there filming, there was a spicehead outside Sainsbury's having a very one sided argument with a parked car, so I'm not sure you could label it particularly pretentious...
@@hullhistorynerd Ha, ha, ha-that's more how I remember it being! Back in the days of the cream-coloured Kingston Communications Telephone boxes I can remember some div starting on me because I had had my "alloted" time on the pay-phone...you should do an episode on that, not some div shouting, but how Hull Corporation ended-up running their own telephone system. I did know the story once, but I have forgotten it with time (and age...).
I thought this was going to be about Newlands near Drax for a moment haha, but of course there is nothing there
Lovely video -- so interesting to someone who lived in the Avenues in the 1960s as a student at the university and who retains great affection for the area and the whole city. The actual Avenues (Victoria, Park, Westbourne, and Marlborough) don't seem to have changed, but Newland Avenue and Princes Avenue clearly have in terms of the type of commerce. At that time, there were more shops to serve the practical daily needs of ordinary families and students, but now it seems bars and restaurants dominate. Is the Piper Club still there? And what of The Monica Billiard Hall? I recall on one occasion I was a bit strapped for cash and decided to sell my old portable typewriter. I left my flat on Westbourne Avenue via the back exit to sell it to Pooles Corner on Newland Avenue (brilliant secondhand shop, sadly long-gone). As I emerged from the ten-foot I was immediatly stopped by a policeman who thought I had nicked it. Thankyou Hull History Nerd for all your wonderful and informative videos.
Ah, I miss Poole's Corner. I bought my first synthesiser from there back in 1998! I actually don't know if Piper is still going, I remember it still being there a few years back, but I've no idea if it's still on the go. Not being a pub or club sort of guy I tend not to pay much attention to them.
I do like that Newland Ave has developed a great cafe culture, though, with great local businesses like Artisan and Planet Coffee being proper local fixtures. I spent a lot of time in both of those places meeting friends over the last decade and a half!
I never actually went to the Piper Club, but it was always a bright and prominent building and represented the entirety of the hospitality sector at that time, with the exception of a few fish and chip shops. I don't recall Newland Avenue ever having a pub in its entire length. One had to go round the corner into Queens Road, where there were two -- The Queens and St Johns.
@@andrewshepherd7429 There are loads these days, just off the top of my head I can think of Sleepers, People's Republic, Larkins and Roots, and I'm pretty sure there are a few more on top of that! It's become quite the lively place these days!
I've been watching you for a while now and I have got to say your certainly perfecting your craft settling in to your abilities. Wonderful addition to your already fantastic collection.
I thought I recognised that pub. The hours I've sat in traffic outside there on my home to Scarborough.
Oh yes, at crunch times that junction gets so slow!
@@hullhistorynerd forgot to say, excellent video as ever Mr Nerd. I always look forward to them 👍
there's a nice ten foot opposite the roundabout on marlborough ave though :)
It's sadly been padlocked off for a few years now, used to be my main way of getting to Newland Ave when I lived on Marlborough!
@@hullhistorynerd aaww no.. i remember biking down there in the 90's.. was a great cut through, i had a friend who lived on marlborough, those houses are absolutely massive
@@bazza5699 They really are, my flat was just one floor of one, and it was 2 bedrooms, and a vast living room and sizeable kitchen/diner. Very decent size! No double glazing or actual central heating, mind. Just those useless Economy 7 heaters.
@@hullhistorynerd yeah i had another friend who lived in a downstairs flat on marlborough that was massive too.. first friend though lived in a family house. which was huge compared to my family home of a terrace 2bed.. i'd love to live down the avenues.. or along bricknel
@@bazza5699 Kate was one of those who grew up in a big family house, her family history really does lay in the Avenues!
Question for you, where are the springs in anlaby? I’m guessing near spring gardens? Having grown up and lived here all my life I’ve never heard anything about them.
Not really in Anlaby itself, but more up towards Willerby. The residents of Anlaby, Cottingham and Willerby all considered the springs their joint property, from what I can gather!
@@hullhistorynerd is it still a thing do you know?
@@hughjarse4627 Very good question, I'll certainly be looking into it more when I do an episode on the medieval Water Wars of Hull!
@@hullhistorynerd thanks for the replies!
Do you think that hull will engulf hessle as it expands like it did with newland
I suspect the existing suburbs are probably safe from that fate; however, they are in danger of being expanded themselves with masses of building projects. Cottingham has had hundreds of new homes crammed into new build plots over the last decade, for instance.
@@hullhistorynerd for many years, Hull City Council campaigned to annex Haltemprice Urban District Council, as it was before 1974, comprising Cottingham, Willerby, Anlaby and Hessle within the East Riding County. They were, and still are, of course, the main affluent suburbs of Hull and were inextricably linked to the city economically, benefitting from its job opportunities and social and cultural facilities. The property tax base was very considerable, yet the city didn't benefit in the least from its suburbs. It also would have made sense in strategic planning terms to plan the entire "city-region" as a whole.
The city's big opportunity came with Ted Heath's Conservative government's Local Government Act 1972 which led to the massive 1974 local government reorganisation which established Humberside County Council. But of course political opposition from the Conservative-voting Haltemprice residents to being absorbed by the Labour-controlled city led to Haltemprice remaining separate, as part of the newly created Beverley Borough.
Now, since 1996, Cottingham, Hessle etc are part of East Riding Council, and the city of Hull remains more or less within its old, tightly drawn boundaries.
You still got phone boxes in Hull? How 20th century!
Me either
Not sure what this is referring to so I'm afraid I can't really answer it!
@@hullhistorynerd Sorry. It was referring to the comment that likes Your vidoes without having seen it..Thomas from Wettstetten (Bavaria)
@@thmeier4286 Ah, now it makes sense, thanks!
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another great video. i think you may like some of my vids!
I do hope you teach your children about the people’s republic of east Hull ! 🤣
I've never heard of that, what was that about?
Was just joking! 🤣