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Sounds like the solder on the circut board is coming apart. Expanding and contracting with the cold. Maybe take a shot at reflowing the solder on the board and cleaning all the connectors. I don't imagine used circut boards for a flex Grand C are just growing on trees.
Scotty my Toyota Camry SE 2015 has 280,000 miles and it just start burning 1/4 of engine oil every thousand mile what should I do? It running smooth no noise at all.
Jesus is King. He died for u and me for our sins simply bc he loves us. And he rose from the dead meaning he defeated death. Whoever believes that the Lord Jesus is the Christ and his resurrection is true and real than u will be saved.
Because they were overbuilt, Jeeps at one time could easily do 700K-1M miles with little more than regular maintenance. Not anymore I'm afraid. Yes, I really miss the old 4.0L I-6. They were damn near bulletproof.
...and yet the 4.0 in a Wrangler was the single worst gas hog for its displacement and load that I have ever had, in addition to mediocre systems reliability. I was always told I should expect a minimum of 16 mpg while actual was much closer to 12 no matter what was done to it. I have never bought another vehicle since from Chrysler/Daimler/FCA/Stellantis (keeps trying to survive under different ownership). The electrical on the models like Scotty features here reminds me of my mother-in-law's 1978 Rabbit. By the time it was 4 years old, the dealer had given up trying to get the random buzzers and shorts fixed in that piece of quality German engineering.
my dad still swears by them too, he said they were solid and rarely had the issues we see today, and if you did have an issue, they were much easier to work on yourself
It’s a good vehicle but doesn’t have an enthusiastic following like some other Jeeps. Have an 05 manual Liberty. Still going pretty strong at almost 17 years old.
2004 Liberty here. No big problems. 180K. Change the oil every 3000 miles to keep the 3.7 clean. Easy as pie to work on and change fluids without jacking it up. After about 2008, Jeep started with the electrical and harness problems. Parts and mods are plentiful and inexpensive. Documentation of anything you can imagine is all over,online and written. The KJ's and KK's have a fairly large following. Check out the KJ/KK forum online.
@@SSN515 You obviously have never worked on one. The oil filter is a pain in the arse to change. Blown head gasket you might as well junk the vehicle because it costs more to fix than the vehicle is worth. Putting an under powered overhead cam complex sensor driven motor with a suspect CPU and wiring system is the epitome of to many striped hat engineers trying to drive the train from the caboose. Just sayin.
@@everettcalhoun8197 Interesting comment. I now own 3 of them. Lifted 2 of them. If you have a "problem" with the oil filter, you aren't a very good mechanic. Even with the skid plates on it's easy. Never had a head gasket problem, and I've rebuilt the 3.7's a couple of times, just for giggles. I replace the water pump just as a preventative and install the HD cooling package. Main cause of head gasket failure is overheating due to the plastic impeller on the water pump failing. Radiators eat themselves if you don't use Zerex or the equivalent. Replace the lower front ball joints with Moog Problem Solvers.They are getting harder to find now at reasonable prices. The word is out about them. Have a nice day.
I had a 2015 jeep grand Cherokee bought with 160k miles had it until 270k miles sold it and bout a brand new one. I say they’re very reliable. Just oil and brake btw for the old one.
I guessed TIPM before watching. I warned my daughter because her hubby drives a JEEP. BTW Scotty you are so right about how crappy MB is. We have a bunch in our fleet. The Sprinters are all going to the dealer for ADBLUE pollution control issues. The head mechanic told me that every bill for repairs on MB SPRINTERS has been $6 000 CAD or more. The biggest bill was an astounding $16 000 CAD for one repair bill. I am SO SO SO GLAD I AM POOR and can only afford Toyota.
@They Call Me Jared I can afford a Toyota BECAUSE they rarely break. Wife and I had 97 Taurus. It needed 2 engines, 3 transmissions and a Costco shopping cart of other parts. With Toyota, you buy new and mostly just maintenence. My 13 Tacoma cost me about $2000 in 8 years. 1000 of that was replace rear springs which was my choice. Having owned GM and FORD, trust me, Toyota is great for poor people. Just change oil, other fluids, brakes and filters as required.
@@mikefoehr235 I really like Toyota's as well, but don´t know Mike, guess a lot of factors influence about the life of a car (but yeah, quality construction and materials is a most), my family has had mostly Ford's, a 95 F150, 06 Fiesta, 06 Escape and a 04 Explorer, all of them wonderful vehicles, except for a thermostat housing change on the Fiesta which comes plastic from factory haha otherwise, routine maintenance.
@@mikefoehr235 Heard that one recently hahaha well man, it's ok, I wouldn't say I love 'em neither I hate 'em, in fact that apply to any brand. Simply, if the car runs good, looks good and it sounds good, it's all that matters for me.
I have a 1992 Jeep Comanche. My Jeep has been with me through 5 jobs! I bought it brand new in 1992. It's weathered, (because my Jeep has been more loyal to me than all the freakin jobs I've had). I love my Jeep. When I die, I want to be buried in it.
I’m the same way about my 04 rubicon, I’ve been riding in it since I was 4 months old back in 2003! (Father bought it brand new) was my first vehicle and she’s 150,000 miles strong
My husband had a Comanche that he bought used years ago in 1990 I think and he finally sold it for a few hundred dollars. I heard it finally died years ago after the guy had it a few years. Since then I never see any Comanches around our area of the country in the northeast for years.
I worked with and learned from a little Japanese guy who was a master tech for Honda of Japan (he immigrated here in 1984. And he had a 1987Jeep Cherokee inline-six and a 90 CRX Si (made in Japan). The Jeep went about 585,000 before it needed it's first semi major engine work and the Rex was at 550,000 with the original clutch. I learned everything I know about Jeeps & Hondas from him and god damn AMC knew how to design that motor! Not like today 😞
I bought a Jeep Liberty in 2007. 16 years later and I am still driving it everyday. No major issues at all. The windows fall into the door but was fixed. I’m actually going to give it to my granddaughter for her first car.
That’s what my moms got! Same situation as you. She won’t get a new car, she wants to run it to its death. It’s got problems but she still loves it. We just had the starter replaced.
@@beardedgunny6987 I think so but to be honest, did you really think I would know the answer to this question? Lol. I may have known 17 years ago but I’ve forgotten many many things.
"Once you get low battery voltage all kinds of things can happen..." I just replaced my alternator because my truck lights were really dim, then would randomly brighten up and dim again. At the same time the engine would randomly rev up to around 2000 rpm when moving slowly in first gear. The reving was originally thought to be unrelated, but then I checked the battery voltage with the engine idling. The voltage was up and down from 11.9 to 14.1 completely without pattern, and never smoothed out. I figured my alternator voltage regulator was shot so I swapped it out Saturday. The truck loved it. The whole thing smoothed out and ran better with more power and, so far, no reving or random engine speed variations. So yes. I wholeheartedly agree.
3:20 "These cars are so complex, if they don't have full voltage... They'll do things that you couldn't imagine." Shows picture of transformers fighting. LOL!
its accurate though, i had a problem with alternator and when voltage was dropping , then rising then dropping etc, the steering wheel was fighting me, because it is an electrical one, so i was literally arm wrestling the car :))) , it was getting from easy to move to hard to impossible then easy again then impossible , a complete hazard on the road, first time i called a tow and not tried to drive it to a service
2006 they still had 4L I6. My 2005 jeep wrangler is still young at 100k miles. Just use it for weekends and summer driving now. Best jeep they ever made and would never buy a new one.
I've been driving daily a 1998 Jeep Cherokee for 24 years. The only thing that failed Is the alternator at 23 years and the distributor cap at 22 years. Otherwise it's run perfectly. So obviously results vary.
I love my 1995 jeep Cherokee. 303,000 miles, 4.0 HO IL6 and runs like new. Best vehicle I've owed. Plus love going off road. I wouldn't buy any new jeep aka: Fiat...
That was way back when they still made actually good cars. Anything from the 90's that's taken care of will be good. Happy to hear that old warhorse is still running strong!
I’ve got the 3.7 V6 model of the 2008 grand Cherokee which is a wk just like the one in this video and it’s got over 274,000 miles and drives great still with zero warning CELs. These wks are reliable when taken care of correctly and on time. Edit: sold this Jeep Wk with 311,400 miles to buy another Jeep
You're right, but electrical issues don't care about maintenance. Electrical issues are my biggest worry on any make/model vehicle. I love Jeep and Ram so that worry wouldn't keep me from buying one. Had a 2001 jeep grand cherokee and now have a 2019 Ram classic, and 2011 nissan maxima. All have been excellent, but the Ram is new so time will tell.
I've got a 02 Wrangler with over 200k and a 98 Cherokee with 350k+. Both 4.0 Inline 6. Both still run great, wouldn't hesitate to jump in either one and do a road trip. One of the best motors ever made in my and many other people's opinions. Love the channel Scotty!
I love how Scotty methodically works through the different diagnostic systems in a modern vehicle. But when you take your vehicle to the dealership repair center, they can keep a vehicle for several days, use it, put miles on it, and still never fix it!
Scotty is a mechanic, with decades of experience. Your dealership hires young kids, pays them poorly, and puts them to work under a senior mechanic, who is often too busy to check on everyone. These kids, jr apprentices really, are just hooking up your car and seeing what the codes are, then going to a manual and replacing the recommended parts. If there's a systemic problem, they will never see it like Scotty can, and you'll be several miles down the road when the light comes back on. Back you go, pissed now and the dealership will take 10% off the next bill. LOL. Oh, and you get a free cup of stale coffee.
@@soldat2501 One dealer I believe just let my vehicle sit and never touched it. Meanwhile I'm miles away without a vehicle. Another actually used my vehicle for their personal use and ran it back and forth to their home to move or haul some things. Both were GM dealerships.
@@chickenfarm09 would u rather they wasted gas Tryng recreate the problem? Seriously they get ppl come n for stupid stuff like it vibrates but only on one back rd between this cow am fence. Ugh maybe it's the rd? Naw gta be aligned right? Lol
My Jeep is just great. It was built in 1940, and yes it's had a few new pistons and bearings fitted in the past 80 years, but thats 80 fkin years old and still running perfectly, because it's worth spending the money to keep it running perfectly.
I have 1995 V8 Jeep , and won't part with it for anything, 1993 BMW 740 and 77 Dodge camper van, always do my own spanner work .......wouldnt touch any vehicle built after 1999, as they're an electronics nightmare. Flashy money pits designed to dump you in any fast lane anytime. Great computer system Scotty, Great entertainment always with you ..
Been driving classic Jeep Cherokee's for 35 years (as well as many other vehicles) ...put 285K on an 1989 for 14 years ... then bought a 2000 Sport, still have it, it has 257K, looks and drives like new, but of course it has been well maintained ... both had the 4.0 in them ... never had either of these vehicles towed ... terrible gas millage hauling around a cast iron AMC engine designed in the 40's ... but a hell of a lot cheaper than most cars today that barely last 5-6 years
A Friend had a Mercedes that was doing crazy things. Battery tested fine voltage at the ECM was fine but when I got to the BCM the voltage was very low. After several minutes of head scratching & curse words, ran a jumper from the battery to the BCM everything worked great. After further inspection the battery cable at a split point was corroded. Replaced the terminals & cable problem solved.
Yep, tapping on the ICM is the fix for the new Jeeps. I have a 2015 (56k miles). I was constantly getting a message that the shifter was not working (or something like that) and auto start stop was disabled. Having a look at the Jeep forums I run across a guy that said he reseated everything in the ICM. All the relays and fuses. I simply opened it up and pressed on everything in there. I've only had one shifter error in 3 months and 3 Auto start/stop in the same amount of time, where I used to get them every time I drove the car. I simply can't see myself buying a Jeep again after this. If it was an isolated issue or something that Jeep was taking care of then it would be a different story. But there seems to be a lot of people having the issue and Jeep will blame everything else on the car except that part when you take it in under warranty. It's a shame because outside of the ICM it's a great car.
I drive a 98’ ZJ for utility work right yet. It now has 460k miles logged on it with only a knock in the engine. Doing rebuild this year. Perfect body, not a spec of rust. Perfect interior. Good transmission (it’s not a manual so not perfect). Routinely change the oil, fix things by the moment they break, and know what you are doing. Oh, and don’t buy modern garbage. That stuff is just garbage. This is how you have a nice car even when you have no money like me.
If you can open that up to the circuit board; look for weak or cold solder points. Sometimes a little solder in the right place can fix it. Sounds like an temperature expansion/contraction problem.
Carried to an extreme idea of low voltage, my former '03 Jeep GC had the alternator go out. I tried to limp it home, but was forced to stop halfway. By the time I had got it safely parked, the whole dash was blinking erratically, and the gauges made no sense, doing random stuff. Scotty brought that to mind when he talked about low voltage confusing the computer.
I bought a 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7l v8 hemi with 170k miles, endless problems… the power steering pump went out twice the transmission had to be fixed, it wouldent shift passed 3rd gear had to change all 16 spark plugs and a few ignition coils since it was misfiring 30 miles from the dealership. Worst vehicle I’ve owned
I have a 2002 Grand Cherokee and I love it. It is such a good driver but it should be in the OPEC hall of fame. Loves gas. It only has 127k miles but I am selling it. The 4.0L engine is great. Everything works - now.
My 92' XJ limited still runs like a top to this day. Most cars this old can't say the same. One of the best vehicles ever made. Super capable along with great longevity. R12 ac still works.
Yea my Lincoln Townie of 1992 runs great still too. But the newer Jeeps and cars weren't made near as well. But due diligence on individual models and years reliability can save you alot of time money and headaches !!!!
@@tinamcgarrah7794 indeed. Those towncars were something special. I didn't care for the looks of them but Ford built those cars well. Had a few buddies that owned some. The newer cars of just about any make are inferior to how they used to build them, especially anything dodge/jeep. The beauty of the XJ Cherokee is its really an AMC and not so much jeep. Tractor motor and a Toyota tranny. Is really why they last so long. Then dodge had to mess up a good thing and kaboom.
The low voltage could indicate a bad ground connection. Battery and charging ok....look at the ground connections to the chassis. I don't have a Jeep but in the Ford factory service manuals, all the chassis ground connections are identified.
I think I would check the integrity of the battery cables before I would buy a new power module. Just to be sure they aren’t corroded. I’ve seen battery cables look real good on the outside but were corroded on the inside.
I had an '05 WK with the 3.7L V6 in it. It was my first new car. The timing chain broke at 44K miles. Toyota vehicles from that point on and no problems from that point on.
My last vehicle was a 2001 Jeep Cherokee. I loved it. The only thing I ever did to it was oil changes. Then I got into an accident and it got totaled. The vehicle I got after that, and am still driving today is a 2005 Jeep Liberty. At the time, I wasn't aware Jeep got bought out by Chrysler. I've stuck almost as much money into fixing it as I paid for it. I went through 3 batteries in 3 years. I had my alternator tested and that was fine, but something was killing my battery. I had some lights inside my dash, and thought that might be the problem. I got rid of the source, and haven't had any issues since, but this video was still very helpful if it happens again.
The newer Jeeps have more plastic on them than ever. I had to replace my oil pump and head gaskets on my 2014 Jeep Cherokee about five months ago due to a major oil leak. No leak now, but I know it will eventually happen again if I keep this Jeep for another 100k miles. I was surprised to find out (after I purchased the used Jeep) that the new styling of the 2014 model came with a redesigned oil pump that was made more of plastic than metal.
Scotty, many people use the wrong terminology when they talk about electrical issues. An electrical, "short", will cause heat to build up, or a fire if it's a direct short. What is happening with that Jeep is likely a high resistance connection, or partially open connection, or just a poor/bad connection.
Sometimes if the battery is good but your systems are not working well, there could be a bad ground from the battery. Happened to me with my truck, I thought I had real big problems, make sure your grounds are proper.
Once you get low battery voltage, all kinds of crazy stuff can happen. As an electrical engineer, I can assure you that this is the case. If those circuits have low power, the computer makes incorrect decisions.
I always laugh when I see someone with a new Gladiator or Wrangler and they think they’re cool. Such junk. My old Tacoma that has 245k miles original alternator and AC compressor still runs fine.
Lol my 2007 patriot runs perfectly fine with 212k miles. It has never left me stranded but it did attempt to when my Ignition coils went out. I drove on those for 20-30mins because I'm not waiting in st Louis on no tow truck. Also I fixed the burning oil problem.
Had several Toys, good transportation. Jeep has always carried their weight as a corporation. Have a Rubicon LJ, iconic 4.0 I6, and 6 speed, had to save my son 2 years ago, his new 2019 Tacoma hit a small limb that popped his fuel pump power wire, he was sure Disappointed…
@@MotorcycleEnjoyer01 well it must be good because my radiator fluid power steering and windshield fluid is easy to access. Shoot autozone even found a spot for my funnel
Had a 1994 Wrangler, then a 2002 Grand Jeep. It's at 195K. But I bought a 2023 GJ-L. I love the luxury upgrade. Keep. 2002 for towing. I'm a Jeep girl and love them.
I fear their niche is being destoyed by CAFE 2.0. Companies now have to sell thousands of junk cars [4 banger + poor steel] to rollout a few hundred rugged vehicles with decent horsepower. Help me out here: is "managing manufacture of personal conveyances" an enumerated power to the federal government, or are they just making everything up as they go along now?
i see wranglers all the time with over 200k miles and still bring big money. if they were junk as you and scotty imly, then first..they wouldnt be getting over 200k miles...then they wouldnt have some of the very best resale values. same goes for grand cherokee
@@healthyamerican I own one, 2020. Build quality is worse than my JK. Tj was built much better. The price is for people wanting to use them off road. Land rover is expensive too, dosen't make it well built.
So glad I just bought a TJ this last April. Best vehicle I’ve ever had! Maybe not the best on gas... but good Lord... each mile is more fun than the one before it!
My 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4, 4.0L straight-six, has 255,462 miles on it. I would still jump in that vehicle today and drive anywhere, and trust it to get me there and back. The only real issue I had with it was the starter had to be replaced at 181K miles, and the timing chain was replaced at 220K miles. The vehicle isn't perfect, but is my most reliable, along with my most-reliable 2005 GMC Sierra 2500HD Duramax/Allison with 356k miles, and my 2008 Chevy Express 2500 van with Vortec 6.0 /4L80E xmsn and 147K miles. American GM vehicles are still the most reliable in my opinion, especially their engines and transmissions on their vans and trucks. I've had the most reliability problems with Mercedes Benz: air conditioning (twice), transmission, wiring harness (twice), fuse box, vacuum pump (twice), steering linkage, sun roof.
I had the ‘06 Grand Cherokee with a 5.7L Hemi, but never dealt with an electrical issue. At 117K, what got me was the transfer case and the evaporator. They’re solid cars, and will last a long time if you garage keep them. Flex fuel would have been nice so it wouldn’t take me 2 full tanks of gas to drive to school, but can’t beat the power and the sound of a Hemi😎
Have a 2006 myself replaced a lot of stuff lately but is has well over a hundred thousand miles on it and yes it’s a hemi got some real balls under the hood one of the few people that make it to work when it snows love the dam thing
10 volts when it should be 14 volts could just be slightly corroded connections. One or more. Sometimes you can just take a connector apart and reinstall it and that breaks through the corrosion enough to make things right again. But the problem will come back quickly if you don't clean the connections. If you suspect micro-corrosion is the problem then use some sort of contact cleaner on connections were safe and feasible. That way it'll take longer before the problem returns.
Low voltage is easy to isolate - as long as Jeep provides a detailed schematic and test points. But Jeep saves a few pennies and does not design in test points.
I have driven old jeep cherokee's over a million miles with straight 6's in every kind of weather including flooded streets delivering pizza. My brothers fiance has a 2005 grand cherokee 5.7, if there is a bad ground it makes the computer wig out check all the grounds. It is fast as heck tho and has 180,000 miles on it and still pulls like a fright train. What extra things do they have on a flex fuel vehicles computer? All I had to do to my 1987 chevy van to run a 50/50 mix of e85 was put in a new o2 sensor, that's it have been running it for two years now with no issues. I also ran it in my 1999 cherokee without any modifications for eight years it still runs great.
@@Fauxkerykes Any of my trucks just open up another barrel & keep right on trucking. Worse come to worse you just shift down to a lower gear & get the RPM`s higher.
2014 Patriot S with 5-speed. Found the one guy in town to rebuild the manual transmission out of warranty at 40k for $3000. Now at 58k and the transmission is giving out again, and has a bad a/c blender door motor that bangs in the dash every time I open the door
I have a 2011 VW Jetta that is having electronic issues. Sometimes it won't start as if the battery is dead. But as soon as it is boosted, electronics are fine. I have had the battery tested and it's fine. The alternator is good because there is no loss of power when I use it. It also will then start normal for a period of time, then suddenly need to be boosted again. So I may have a similar problem as this Jeep.
We just inherited this exact Jeep except for the flex fuel part...I was reading that the integrated module can have bad ground wiring sometimes causing the vehicle not to start, people spliced a new ground and it starts right up. Anyone else have the mystery flickering headlights/dash lights???
@@hypocriticalharambe8274 put a new battery in today, 3 minutes later it was flickering again….I’ve seen many threads on it and no one seems to have a definitive answer and many seem to have the same issue.
I got a 2005 Grand Cherokee and absolutely hated it. I even had it break down randomly in a Drive Thru!!! The kids inside had to help me. Forget it. I junked it and got an 80s Buick. I'll take Detroit iron over anything new these days
About a year ago my 2004 Toyota 4Runner was in the shop for front end suspension bushing work. I rented a 2020 Jeep Wrangler with 22,000 miles. What a steaming turd on wheels that was! It had a V6. It had so much valvetrain noise I thought it was a Diesel for a minute. The build quality was crap! For the life of me I couldn't imagine anyone test driving that pile and telling the salesman, "I'll take it." I couldn't wait to get back in my good old 4Runner!
I don't get why anyone buys a modern American vehicle when Honda and Toyota equivalents exist. (Which excludes affordable and fast sports cars of course). Same goes for European. A Tiguan, really? Have you never heard of Honda/Acura?
By hitting the cover of the module suggests there is a loose connection in the module or the plug connecting it. This could be rectifed by replugging it in ,attention to corrosion of contacts as well.
Scotty, check the yellow wire on the starter that it isnt corroded. I have one of these jeeps and i think the yellow wire on the starter reads the voltage for the computer from the battery there…stupid. ( the big positive wire from the battery to starter solenoid)
I have a friend that has a jeep cheerokee, it's only 4 years old and stays broke down, his auto mechanic keeps telling him to get rid of it, it's not worth the money he is spending on it.
I had 1999, 2002, 2005 and 2016 . Never had any electrical issue. Yes there were some minor problems but overall I was very happy with them. The only reason I stopped buying Jeeps is because now they cost way too much.
Domestic cars in general are crap in my opinion. Exceptions….. old school, due to simplicity. Brand New , due to competition and people catching on that they’re trash.
@@sorrowcat2724 Problem is; I already put so much money into it I cant afford another vehicle. And as it stands currently it's not running so I don't think I'd make much selling it. It's been a disaster.
The bad thing about watching car videos on youtube is that you get negative about buy any car at all when all cars have their general problems if you have bad luck with them
Why have we built so much needless complexity into our vehicles? This proves to me that I need to hang onto my 2012 Toyota Tacoma (with crank up windows & no infotainment system or lane keeping assist) as long as I can. Because you just can't buy simple, reliable, and easy to repair vehicles anymore.
He didn't say that. He said they're useless for the problem that car was having specifically. Computers can have wrong data due to a myriad of reasons skewing the data. His point is that valid. If values in fuel were that off that car wouldn't even run.
@@christiantaboada no, he said what I quoted and it can ALSO be applied to the car he is using as an example. That car isn’t the only car with electrical problems where the sensors are useless. Like I said. I have a Chevy Impala doing the same thing right now
Meanwhile, my '08 Commander with 4.7L has 236k miles and has never had a failure. Still has original TPMS sensors and OEM battery. No check engine lights, nothing. Remote start always works, heated seats, A/C, everything. It owes me nothing...will keep it on the road as long as I can...as its a beast in the snow.
Jeeps have always been crap. When I bought a new Jeep CJ5 in 1974 it was a mishmash of parts from GM, Ford, and Chrysler. The government told the big three (GM / Ford / Chrysler) that if they didn't help American Motors / Rambler to survive they would start antitrust cases against them and break them up into smaller competitive car companies. So GM's Buick division sold AMC Jeep. Then Cryselor supplied them with transmissions, GM's Saginaw divisions supplied them with steering columns and other components, and Ford's Autolite division sold them window glass. So the big three created a Frankenstein vehicle called Jeep. And in recent years Fiat got involved and the old Jeeps started looking much better by comparison.
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Sounds like the solder on the circut board is coming apart. Expanding and contracting with the cold. Maybe take a shot at reflowing the solder on the board and cleaning all the connectors. I don't imagine used circut boards for a flex Grand C are just growing on trees.
I can attest 2 that I've owned 3 models..a 97 a 98 and a 2000..all ran great with high milage
Scotty my Toyota Camry SE 2015 has 280,000 miles and it just start burning 1/4 of engine oil every thousand mile what should I do? It running smooth no noise at all.
Jesus is King. He died for u and me for our sins simply bc he loves us. And he rose from the dead meaning he defeated death.
Whoever believes that the Lord Jesus is the Christ and his resurrection is true and real than u will be saved.
btw Jesus is returning soon
Because they were overbuilt, Jeeps at one time could easily do 700K-1M miles with little more than regular maintenance. Not anymore I'm afraid. Yes, I really miss the old 4.0L I-6. They were damn near bulletproof.
...and yet the 4.0 in a Wrangler was the single worst gas hog for its displacement and load that I have ever had, in addition to mediocre systems reliability. I was always told I should expect a minimum of 16 mpg while actual was much closer to 12 no matter what was done to it. I have never bought another vehicle since from Chrysler/Daimler/FCA/Stellantis (keeps trying to survive under different ownership). The electrical on the models like Scotty features here reminds me of my mother-in-law's 1978 Rabbit. By the time it was 4 years old, the dealer had given up trying to get the random buzzers and shorts fixed in that piece of quality German engineering.
@Reflected Miles “nah”
@@ReflectedMiles I drive a 4.0 03 wrangler. Nowadays I try to stay under 2000 rpm and coast down every hill I see 😂
Same here I drive like a grandma and it’s all paying off love my jgc
my dad still swears by them too, he said they were solid and rarely had the issues we see today, and if you did have an issue, they were much easier to work on yourself
The 97-01 Cherokee with the 4.0 inline 6 was a great vehicle.
I've had 4 of them with the 4.0 and always looking for a good used one. Took 3 to 350k+miles
Awesome vehicles
Nope
Easy to hot wire
Agreed 💯
I bought a 2006 Jeep Liberty in 2008. Bought a bumper to bumper warranty for $850. After almost $10,000 in warranty repairs it's not a bad vehicle.
It’s a good vehicle but doesn’t have an enthusiastic following like some other Jeeps. Have an 05 manual Liberty. Still going pretty strong at almost 17 years old.
2004 Liberty here. No big problems. 180K. Change the oil every 3000 miles to keep the 3.7 clean. Easy as pie to work on and change fluids without jacking it up. After about 2008, Jeep started with the electrical and harness problems. Parts and mods are plentiful and inexpensive. Documentation of anything you can imagine is all over,online and written. The KJ's and KK's have a fairly large following. Check out the KJ/KK forum online.
02 Liberty 187000 running great, off-road adventures almost every weekend.
@@SSN515 You obviously have never worked on one. The oil filter is a pain in the arse to change. Blown head gasket you might as well junk the vehicle because it costs more to fix than the vehicle is worth. Putting an under powered overhead cam complex sensor driven motor with a suspect CPU and wiring system is the epitome of to many striped hat engineers trying to drive the train from the caboose. Just sayin.
@@everettcalhoun8197 Interesting comment. I now own 3 of them. Lifted 2 of them. If you have a "problem" with the oil filter, you aren't a very good mechanic. Even with the skid plates on it's easy. Never had a head gasket problem, and I've rebuilt the 3.7's a couple of times, just for giggles. I replace the water pump just as a preventative and install the HD cooling package. Main cause of head gasket failure is overheating due to the plastic impeller on the water pump failing. Radiators eat themselves if you don't use Zerex or the equivalent. Replace the lower front ball joints with Moog Problem Solvers.They are getting harder to find now at reasonable prices. The word is out about them. Have a nice day.
I had a 2015 jeep grand Cherokee bought with 160k miles had it until 270k miles sold it and bout a brand new one.
I say they’re very reliable. Just oil and brake btw for the old one.
I guessed TIPM before watching. I warned my daughter because her hubby drives a JEEP. BTW Scotty you are so right about how crappy MB is. We have a bunch in our fleet. The Sprinters are all going to the dealer for ADBLUE pollution control issues. The head mechanic told me that every bill for repairs on MB SPRINTERS has been $6 000 CAD or more. The biggest bill was an astounding $16 000 CAD for one repair bill. I am SO SO SO GLAD I AM POOR and can only afford Toyota.
How exactly can you be poor and own a toyota at the same time?? Have you seen the price of them??
@They Call Me Jared I can afford a Toyota BECAUSE they rarely break. Wife and I had 97 Taurus. It needed 2 engines, 3 transmissions and a Costco shopping cart of other parts. With Toyota, you buy new and mostly just maintenence. My 13 Tacoma cost me about $2000 in 8 years. 1000 of that was replace rear springs which was my choice. Having owned GM and FORD, trust me, Toyota is great for poor people. Just change oil, other fluids, brakes and filters as required.
@@mikefoehr235 I really like Toyota's as well, but don´t know Mike, guess a lot of factors influence about the life of a car (but yeah, quality construction and materials is a most), my family has had mostly Ford's, a 95 F150, 06 Fiesta, 06 Escape and a 04 Explorer, all of them wonderful vehicles, except for a thermostat housing change on the Fiesta which comes plastic from factory haha otherwise, routine maintenance.
@Marcos Guardia I hate Ford. I despise the brand. FORD...FAILURE OF RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT
@@mikefoehr235 Heard that one recently hahaha well man, it's ok, I wouldn't say I love 'em neither I hate 'em, in fact that apply to any brand. Simply, if the car runs good, looks good and it sounds good, it's all that matters for me.
I have a 1992 Jeep Comanche. My Jeep has been with me through 5 jobs! I bought it brand new in 1992. It's weathered, (because my Jeep has been more loyal to me than all the freakin jobs I've had). I love my Jeep. When I die, I want to be buried in it.
I’m the same way about my 04 rubicon, I’ve been riding in it since I was 4 months old back in 2003! (Father bought it brand new) was my first vehicle and she’s 150,000 miles strong
My husband had a Comanche that he bought used years ago in 1990 I think and he finally sold it for a few hundred dollars. I heard it finally died years ago after the guy had it a few years. Since then I never see any Comanches around our area of the country in the northeast for years.
I have a 2006 Commander.
A gas station, yes, but reliable.
I worked with and learned from a little Japanese guy who was a master tech for Honda of Japan (he immigrated here in 1984. And he had a 1987Jeep Cherokee inline-six and a 90 CRX Si (made in Japan). The Jeep went about 585,000 before it needed it's first semi major engine work and the Rex was at 550,000 with the original clutch. I learned everything I know about Jeeps & Hondas from him and god damn AMC knew how to design that motor! Not like today 😞
My '88 has that 4.0L six. Bulletproof engine!
The inline 6 was one of the dying breed of honest reliable American engines.
I had 2 Cherokees with the 4.0L engine. Had no problems.
I’d love to have a mid 80’s Scrambler with the 258 and a 5 speed, the original Gladiator
Any good info you would like to share that you learned from him?
My wife wanted to lease one, it had two serious recalls before the first oil change was due. We dumped it as fast as we could.
Sounds like the jeep version of the Minority Report.. your wife wanted to lease one, then dumped it before she did. 👍👎😭🤔
I’m glad you’re alive and well! God Bless!
I bought a Jeep Liberty in 2007. 16 years later and I am still driving it everyday. No major issues at all. The windows fall into the door but was fixed. I’m actually going to give it to my granddaughter for her first car.
❤
That’s what my moms got! Same situation as you. She won’t get a new car, she wants to run it to its death. It’s got problems but she still loves it. We just had the starter replaced.
Does it have the 3.7 V6??
Yeah I love Jeep. 2008, bought it in 2011. About 16 years old and it runs very well given I haven’t done the best maintenance on it over the years.
@@beardedgunny6987 I think so but to be honest, did you really think I would know the answer to this question? Lol. I may have known 17 years ago but I’ve forgotten many many things.
Still rocking my 03 Grand Cherokee for off road expeditions through Europe. Hasn't missed a beat...
During our most recent snow the family enjoyed watching a 2021 Cherokee with low side tires sliding sideways down the street.
"Once you get low battery voltage all kinds of things can happen..." I just replaced my alternator because my truck lights were really dim, then would randomly brighten up and dim again. At the same time the engine would randomly rev up to around 2000 rpm when moving slowly in first gear. The reving was originally thought to be unrelated, but then I checked the battery voltage with the engine idling. The voltage was up and down from 11.9 to 14.1 completely without pattern, and never smoothed out. I figured my alternator voltage regulator was shot so I swapped it out Saturday. The truck loved it. The whole thing smoothed out and ran better with more power and, so far, no reving or random engine speed variations. So yes. I wholeheartedly agree.
3:20 "These cars are so complex, if they don't have full voltage... They'll do things that you couldn't imagine."
Shows picture of transformers fighting. LOL!
Lmaooooo I was dying
its accurate though, i had a problem with alternator and when voltage was dropping , then rising then dropping etc, the steering wheel was fighting me, because it is an electrical one, so i was literally arm wrestling the car :))) , it was getting from easy to move to hard to impossible then easy again then impossible , a complete hazard on the road, first time i called a tow and not tried to drive it to a service
@@adriandobre9366 youre lucky it didnt transform. Who knows what sort of mayhem would of ensued!
On a serious note, that does sound like a huge pain.
The pics are the best! 😂
Up to 2004. Jeeps 4.0 were great. My 04 jeep sounds strong still at 238,000. Shifts fabulous too!
My 95 Wrangler was a POS. Nice South Korean Trans in it went.
Ran 4.0’s thru 2006 model year, bought one of the last ones…
2006 they still had 4L I6.
My 2005 jeep wrangler is still young at 100k miles. Just use it for weekends and summer driving now. Best jeep they ever made and would never buy a new one.
I have 2003 jeep grand Cherokee Larado 4.0. still going strong. 😂
4'7 187.k overland....Bull
I've been driving daily a 1998 Jeep Cherokee for 24 years. The only thing that failed Is the alternator at 23 years and the distributor cap at 22 years. Otherwise it's run perfectly. So obviously results vary.
I love my 1995 jeep Cherokee. 303,000 miles, 4.0 HO IL6 and runs like new. Best vehicle I've owed. Plus love going off road. I wouldn't buy any new jeep aka: Fiat...
But you know what they say, even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time.
My brother in law drove a 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee with a 4.0 straight six to 258,000 miles without major issues.
That was way back when they still made actually good cars. Anything from the 90's that's taken care of will be good. Happy to hear that old warhorse is still running strong!
@Sonic Sony 5 like comparing a '16 VW Golf GTI to a '87 Golf GL (bulletproof).
same brand doesn't mean similar durability.
I’ve got the 3.7 V6 model of the 2008 grand Cherokee which is a wk just like the one in this video and it’s got over 274,000 miles and drives great still with zero warning CELs. These wks are reliable when taken care of correctly and on time.
Edit: sold this Jeep Wk with 311,400 miles to buy another Jeep
You're right, but electrical issues don't care about maintenance. Electrical issues are my biggest worry on any make/model vehicle. I love Jeep and Ram so that worry wouldn't keep me from buying one. Had a 2001 jeep grand cherokee and now have a 2019 Ram classic, and 2011 nissan maxima. All have been excellent, but the Ram is new so time will tell.
My 2013 GC blew it’s TIPM not even a year into my ownership of it
2010 wk with 145, runs solid. Regular maintenance and decent owners not digging in the wires make a difference
My 07 GC has 198000 still strong
Great to hear I have a 3.7 also
I've got a 02 Wrangler with over 200k and a 98 Cherokee with 350k+. Both 4.0 Inline 6. Both still run great, wouldn't hesitate to jump in either one and do a road trip. One of the best motors ever made in my and many other people's opinions. Love the channel Scotty!
I love how Scotty methodically works through the different diagnostic systems in a modern vehicle. But when you take your vehicle to the dealership repair center, they can keep a vehicle for several days, use it, put miles on it, and still never fix it!
Scotty is a mechanic, with decades of experience. Your dealership hires young kids, pays them poorly, and puts them to work under a senior mechanic, who is often too busy to check on everyone. These kids, jr apprentices really, are just hooking up your car and seeing what the codes are, then going to a manual and replacing the recommended parts. If there's a systemic problem, they will never see it like Scotty can, and you'll be several miles down the road when the light comes back on. Back you go, pissed now and the dealership will take 10% off the next bill. LOL. Oh, and you get a free cup of stale coffee.
@@soldat2501 Exactly. Inexperience is a big problem at "dealerships". Customers end up paying for EACH symptom and then fix the real issue.
@@soldat2501 One dealer I believe just let my vehicle sit and never touched it. Meanwhile I'm miles away without a vehicle. Another actually used my vehicle for their personal use and ran it back and forth to their home to move or haul some things. Both were GM dealerships.
@@youngdredz8784 Inexperience and that just don't care attitude that many people have.
@@chickenfarm09 would u rather they wasted gas Tryng recreate the problem? Seriously they get ppl come n for stupid stuff like it vibrates but only on one back rd between this cow am fence. Ugh maybe it's the rd? Naw gta be aligned right? Lol
I bought a new Jeep once...it didn't go well! Switched to Honda and vehicle problems are
now just a bad memory.
Really? Cuz I could tell you a completely opposite story my 04 has been the best suv I have ever owned daily driven for 18 years now in the north east
That depends on the Honda. Their automatic gearbox history isn’t too great
My Jeep is just great. It was built in 1940, and yes it's had a few new pistons and bearings fitted in the past 80 years, but thats 80 fkin years old and still running perfectly, because it's worth spending the money to keep it running perfectly.
👍👍👍❤️❤️❤️. I love my 2017 JK
I have 1995 V8 Jeep , and won't part with it for anything, 1993 BMW 740 and 77 Dodge camper van, always do my own spanner work .......wouldnt touch any vehicle built after 1999, as they're an electronics nightmare. Flashy money pits designed to dump you in any fast lane anytime.
Great computer system Scotty, Great entertainment always with you ..
Been driving classic Jeep Cherokee's for 35 years (as well as many other vehicles) ...put 285K on an 1989 for 14 years ... then bought a 2000 Sport, still have it, it has 257K, looks and drives like new, but of course it has been well maintained ... both had the 4.0 in them ... never had either of these vehicles towed ... terrible gas millage hauling around a cast iron AMC engine designed in the 40's ... but a hell of a lot cheaper than most cars today that barely last 5-6 years
this is the toyota kilmer channel. only jeep bashing and toyota drooling allowed
A Friend had a Mercedes that was doing crazy things. Battery tested fine voltage at the ECM was fine but when I got to the BCM the voltage was very low. After several minutes of head scratching & curse words, ran a jumper from the battery to the BCM everything worked great. After further inspection the battery cable at a split point was corroded. Replaced the terminals & cable problem solved.
Yep, tapping on the ICM is the fix for the new Jeeps. I have a 2015 (56k miles). I was constantly getting a message that the shifter was not working (or something like that) and auto start stop was disabled. Having a look at the Jeep forums I run across a guy that said he reseated everything in the ICM. All the relays and fuses. I simply opened it up and pressed on everything in there. I've only had one shifter error in 3 months and 3 Auto start/stop in the same amount of time, where I used to get them every time I drove the car.
I simply can't see myself buying a Jeep again after this. If it was an isolated issue or something that Jeep was taking care of then it would be a different story. But there seems to be a lot of people having the issue and Jeep will blame everything else on the car except that part when you take it in under warranty. It's a shame because outside of the ICM it's a great car.
I drive a 98’ ZJ for utility work right yet. It now has 460k miles logged on it with only a knock in the engine. Doing rebuild this year.
Perfect body, not a spec of rust. Perfect interior. Good transmission (it’s not a manual so not perfect).
Routinely change the oil, fix things by the moment they break, and know what you are doing. Oh, and don’t buy modern garbage. That stuff is just garbage. This is how you have a nice car even when you have no money like me.
If you can open that up to the circuit board; look for weak or cold solder points. Sometimes a little solder in the right place can fix it. Sounds like an temperature expansion/contraction problem.
I have a96 toyota t 100 with 300,000 miles on it. It runs so good. I bought it because you said that they were good vehicles. And I love it!!!!
Carried to an extreme idea of low voltage, my former '03 Jeep GC had the alternator go out. I tried to limp it home, but was forced to stop halfway. By the time I had got it safely parked, the whole dash was blinking erratically, and the gauges made no sense, doing random stuff. Scotty brought that to mind when he talked about low voltage confusing the computer.
I bought a 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7l v8 hemi with 170k miles, endless problems… the power steering pump went out twice the transmission had to be fixed, it wouldent shift passed 3rd gear had to change all 16 spark plugs and a few ignition coils since it was misfiring 30 miles from the dealership. Worst vehicle I’ve owned
I have a 2002 Grand Cherokee and I love it. It is such a good driver but it should be in the OPEC hall of fame. Loves gas. It only has 127k miles but I am selling it. The 4.0L engine is great. Everything works - now.
Have you had any problems with the transmission?
My 92' XJ limited still runs like a top to this day. Most cars this old can't say the same. One of the best vehicles ever made. Super capable along with great longevity. R12 ac still works.
Yea my Lincoln Townie of 1992 runs great still too. But the newer Jeeps and cars weren't made near as well. But due diligence on individual models and years reliability can save you alot of time money and headaches !!!!
@@tinamcgarrah7794 indeed. Those towncars were something special. I didn't care for the looks of them but Ford built those cars well. Had a few buddies that owned some. The newer cars of just about any make are inferior to how they used to build them, especially anything dodge/jeep. The beauty of the XJ Cherokee is its really an AMC and not so much jeep. Tractor motor and a Toyota tranny. Is really why they last so long. Then dodge had to mess up a good thing and kaboom.
My Javelin AMX 304 V8 ran forever. Loved that motor.
The low voltage could indicate a bad ground connection. Battery and charging ok....look at the ground connections to the chassis. I don't have a Jeep but in the Ford factory service manuals, all the chassis ground connections are identified.
After listening to Scotty......I NO LONGER WANT A CAR OR A TRUCK !!! 🤓
Ha haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Why your 10 speed bicycle is crap! -Scotty
Watch his videos. The trucks he recommends are the only good ones. Toyota and Honda. I'm a happy 4Runner owner
Well if you don’t need one
@@lobdsk but I do need one...I'm 30 miles in the woods from the nearest Wal-Mart! Lol...😂
I have a 98 Grand Cherokee w/4.0 inline six 250k and still going strong!!! Jeep started to decline with v6engine!!!
Shoulda stuck with the good ol 4.0 inline 6
Love how scotty doesnt just show u how to fix it, shows u how to test every possible issue for future reference
I think I would check the integrity of the battery cables before I would buy a new power module. Just to be sure they aren’t corroded. I’ve seen battery cables look real good on the outside but were corroded on the inside.
I had an '05 WK with the 3.7L V6 in it. It was my first new car. The timing chain broke at 44K miles. Toyota vehicles from that point on and no problems from that point on.
must have been under warranty, right?
My last vehicle was a 2001 Jeep Cherokee. I loved it. The only thing I ever did to it was oil changes. Then I got into an accident and it got totaled. The vehicle I got after that, and am still driving today is a 2005 Jeep Liberty. At the time, I wasn't aware Jeep got bought out by Chrysler. I've stuck almost as much money into fixing it as I paid for it. I went through 3 batteries in 3 years. I had my alternator tested and that was fine, but something was killing my battery. I had some lights inside my dash, and thought that might be the problem. I got rid of the source, and haven't had any issues since, but this video was still very helpful if it happens again.
The best thing about this video is that I know who Scotty is because my Jeep has endless problems and I watch his videos to learn how to fix😂😂
Jeep could sell more SUVs if they included a DVD of Scotty telling how to fix them in the first place.
@@MAGA_EXTREM1ST Angry Jeep owner verified. 🤣🤣
@@jaymoar3561 jeep 8s actually very reliable now. Hes talking about the products from 15 years ago
@@haveagoodone5830 jeeps are actually very good now. There were a few years where they were bad yes.
Yeah my 2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee v8 hemi is just constant issues one thing is fixed the next thing breaks
Happened on my 2008 Wrangler, Got one on RockAuto for $250 and took 20min to replace. 100% worth it over a $700 Stealership bill.
😂😂😂...stealership 😂😂😂. Awesome 😎👍.
The newer Jeeps have more plastic on them than ever. I had to replace my oil pump and head gaskets on my 2014 Jeep Cherokee about five months ago due to a major oil leak. No leak now, but I know it will eventually happen again if I keep this Jeep for another 100k miles. I was surprised to find out (after I purchased the used Jeep) that the new styling of the 2014 model came with a redesigned oil pump that was made more of plastic than metal.
How many miles do you have it now? I was looking at a 2014 Cherokee Overland with 90K on it. Do you think it's worth getting one these days?
Scotty, many people use the wrong terminology when they talk about electrical issues. An electrical, "short", will cause heat to build up, or a fire if it's a direct short. What is happening with that Jeep is likely a high resistance connection, or partially open connection, or just a poor/bad connection.
Sometimes if the battery is good but your systems are not working well, there could be a bad ground from the battery. Happened to me with my truck, I thought I had real big problems, make sure your grounds are proper.
Amen Brother….
Love my 2017 Jeep GC… 109k miles and running strong. Plus, it’s just a super comfortable drive. 26.7 mpg combined city/hiway.
Car Owner: "Sure, you can film my car! What's the video going to be titled?" Scotty: "Well..........." 😂
I have family with a 2016 jeep Cherokee. The aluminum ground wire had serious corrosion after one winter.....
Once you get low battery voltage, all kinds of crazy stuff can happen. As an electrical engineer, I can assure you that this is the case. If those circuits have low power, the computer makes incorrect decisions.
It's crazy that even though Scotty is not an electrical engineer he can make a pretty accurate diagnosis and TLDR tell you the car is junk lol.
@@christiantaboada A low electrical system doesn't make a car junk, just have to fix it or sell it.
Sounds like my freightliner cascadia.
New Jeep’s are poor. Yet I have a 1999 Cherokee that is bull it proof. 4.0 liter that had 299 k on it. Still runs great.
I always laugh when I see someone with a new Gladiator or Wrangler and they think they’re cool. Such junk. My old Tacoma that has 245k miles original alternator and AC compressor still runs fine.
Lol my 2007 patriot runs perfectly fine with 212k miles. It has never left me stranded but it did attempt to when my Ignition coils went out. I drove on those for 20-30mins because I'm not waiting in st Louis on no tow truck. Also I fixed the burning oil problem.
Had several Toys, good transportation.
Jeep has always carried their weight as
a corporation. Have a Rubicon LJ, iconic
4.0 I6, and 6 speed, had to save my son 2 years
ago, his new 2019 Tacoma hit a small limb that
popped his fuel pump power wire, he was sure
Disappointed…
@@MotorcycleEnjoyer01 well it must be good because my radiator fluid power steering and windshield fluid is easy to access. Shoot autozone even found a spot for my funnel
Can't take the doors and top off of a Tacoma. Lol YOLO
Love my '15 manual JK, but hoping to get a V8 Tundra next. Not a fan of Fiat owning Jeep. The new stuff has way to many electronics.
Had a 1994 Wrangler, then a 2002 Grand Jeep. It's at 195K. But I bought a 2023 GJ-L. I love the luxury upgrade. Keep. 2002 for towing. I'm a Jeep girl and love them.
Early 2000s and back were real jeeps. RIP Jeep, sad for such a historic brand, to see the lack of build quality increase year after year.
I agree with ya brother
I fear their niche is being destoyed by CAFE 2.0. Companies now have to sell thousands of junk cars [4 banger + poor steel] to rollout a few hundred rugged vehicles with decent horsepower. Help me out here: is "managing manufacture of personal conveyances" an enumerated power to the federal government, or are they just making everything up as they go along now?
i see wranglers all the time with over 200k miles and still bring big money. if they were junk as you and scotty imly, then first..they wouldnt be getting over 200k miles...then they wouldnt have some of the very best resale values. same goes for grand cherokee
@@healthyamerican I own one, 2020. Build quality is worse than my JK. Tj was built much better. The price is for people wanting to use them off road. Land rover is expensive too, dosen't make it well built.
So glad I just bought a TJ this last April. Best vehicle I’ve ever had! Maybe not the best on gas... but good Lord... each mile is more fun than the one before it!
Visitor: What''s that noise outside?
Neighbor: Oh that's Scotty Kilmer yelling at a video camera.
Val Kilmer’s dad is wild
"You gotta replace the whole f*&^%ing thing."😂🤣😂
My 1999 Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo 4x4, 4.0L straight-six, has 255,462 miles on it. I would still jump in that vehicle today and drive anywhere, and trust it to get me there and back. The only real issue I had with it was the starter had to be replaced at 181K miles, and the timing chain was replaced at 220K miles. The vehicle isn't perfect, but is my most reliable, along with my most-reliable 2005 GMC Sierra 2500HD Duramax/Allison with 356k miles, and my 2008 Chevy Express 2500 van with Vortec 6.0 /4L80E xmsn and 147K miles. American GM vehicles are still the most reliable in my opinion, especially their engines and transmissions on their vans and trucks.
I've had the most reliability problems with Mercedes Benz: air conditioning (twice), transmission, wiring harness (twice), fuse box, vacuum pump (twice), steering linkage, sun roof.
I had the ‘06 Grand Cherokee with a 5.7L Hemi, but never dealt with an electrical issue. At 117K, what got me was the transfer case and the evaporator. They’re solid cars, and will last a long time if you garage keep them. Flex fuel would have been nice so it wouldn’t take me 2 full tanks of gas to drive to school, but can’t beat the power and the sound of a Hemi😎
You do realize that e85, or any blend with more ethanol than standard e10, would _worsen_ your fuel mileage, right?
Have a 2006 myself replaced a lot of stuff lately but is has well over a hundred thousand miles on it and yes it’s a hemi got some real balls under the hood one of the few people that make it to work when it snows love the dam thing
Fifteen year old vehicle, and the problem is typical of any vehicle of that age. But if course as it isn't a Honda/Toyota, it's crap.
Everyone I know who has or had one has complained about electrical issues.
10 volts when it should be 14 volts could just be slightly corroded connections. One or more. Sometimes you can just take a connector apart and reinstall it and that breaks through the corrosion enough to make things right again. But the problem will come back quickly if you don't clean the connections. If you suspect micro-corrosion is the problem then use some sort of contact cleaner on connections were safe and feasible. That way it'll take longer before the problem returns.
A priceless education from a master mechanic, amazing what someone can learn watching Scotty.👍
He's a blow hard. I've been driving Jeeps since 1998 and never had these problems.
Low voltage is easy to isolate - as long as Jeep provides a detailed schematic and test points. But Jeep saves a few pennies and does not design in test points.
I owned a 88 jeep 4.0 straight 6 sold it for 1,500.00 with 485,000 on it and didn't use a drop of oil. Great vehicle!
I have driven old jeep cherokee's over a million miles with straight 6's in every kind of weather including flooded streets delivering pizza. My brothers fiance has a 2005 grand cherokee 5.7, if there is a bad ground it makes the computer wig out check all the grounds. It is fast as heck tho and has 180,000 miles on it and still pulls like a fright train. What extra things do they have on a flex fuel vehicles computer? All I had to do to my 1987 chevy van to run a 50/50 mix of e85 was put in a new o2 sensor, that's it have been running it for two years now with no issues. I also ran it in my 1999 cherokee without any modifications for eight years it still runs great.
I miss the good old days with a carb.
Till you go up a steep hill. 😂
@@Fauxkerykes
You're missing the point.
@@mavericmorph5358 just being silly, I was. Simpler times I know. I work at a shop and everything almost requires a computer now.
@@Fauxkerykes Any of my trucks just open up another barrel & keep right on trucking. Worse come to worse you just shift down to a lower gear & get the RPM`s higher.
2014 Patriot S with 5-speed. Found the one guy in town to rebuild the manual transmission out of warranty at 40k for $3000. Now at 58k and the transmission is giving out again, and has a bad a/c blender door motor that bangs in the dash every time I open the door
"Don't get your car fixed by Scotty unless you're ok with him climbing in your trunk."
"what!?"
He doesn't do it to every vehicle
The only Jeep I would buy has to have the AMC ( American Moters Corp) 4.0L Straight 6 Those AMC Straight 6's will run forever.,
Love the investigative process of these videos. So entertaining and always learn lots, thank you Scotty.
I have a 2011 VW Jetta that is having electronic issues. Sometimes it won't start as if the battery is dead. But as soon as it is boosted, electronics are fine. I have had the battery tested and it's fine. The alternator is good because there is no loss of power when I use it. It also will then start normal for a period of time, then suddenly need to be boosted again. So I may have a similar problem as this Jeep.
How many miles?
We just inherited this exact Jeep except for the flex fuel part...I was reading that the integrated module can have bad ground wiring sometimes causing the vehicle not to start, people spliced a new ground and it starts right up.
Anyone else have the mystery flickering headlights/dash lights???
Test the battery dodge Chrysler and jeeps love having the dash flicker if the battery voltage is low mostly when you rev the engine.
@@hypocriticalharambe8274 put a new battery in today, 3 minutes later it was flickering again….I’ve seen many threads on it and no one seems to have a definitive answer and many seem to have the same issue.
@@laserworm2293 Chrysler dodge jeeps are trash
@@laserworm2293 TIPM is trash... New ground can't fix internal TIPM short circuits.
I had the flickering headlights/dash lights on my 2007 WK 3.7L and it was the ignition switch.
I got a 2005 Grand Cherokee and absolutely hated it. I even had it break down randomly in a Drive Thru!!! The kids inside had to help me. Forget it. I junked it and got an 80s Buick. I'll take Detroit iron over anything new these days
About a year ago my 2004 Toyota 4Runner was in the shop for front end suspension bushing work. I rented a 2020 Jeep Wrangler with 22,000 miles. What a steaming turd on wheels that was! It had a V6. It had so much valvetrain noise I thought it was a Diesel for a minute. The build quality was crap! For the life of me I couldn't imagine anyone test driving that pile and telling the salesman, "I'll take it."
I couldn't wait to get back in my good old 4Runner!
My buddy bought brand new 2018 wrangler . it cought on fire and burned to the ground
I don't get why anyone buys a modern American vehicle when Honda and Toyota equivalents exist. (Which excludes affordable and fast sports cars of course).
Same goes for European.
A Tiguan, really? Have you never heard of Honda/Acura?
until you get off road...and the wrangler climbs where the 4runner cannot. thats the part you missed
@@healthyamerican LMAO , you got jokes . I guess you have never seen 4Runner offroading
@@healthyamerican Lol, yeah right. Why is it you don’t see Jeep’s in the harshest places on the planet?
By hitting the cover of the module suggests there is a loose connection in the module or the plug connecting it. This could be rectifed by replugging it in ,attention to corrosion of contacts as well.
I’m glad 😃 my Jeep is an older Jeep. And the 4.0 Straight Six motor. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽💪🏽
I had a Grand Cherokee with that engine. Loved that thing. Wish my exwife never traded it because she wanted something "new and safer" lol Women.
I spray wd 40 or contact cleaner on connectors on the module
and tighten everything, haven't had issues with mine, use WD-40
Love ur vids Scotty.
My 2015 GC 3.6 Overland still running smooth at 92k miles with only normal maintenance done.
Scotty, check the yellow wire on the starter that it isnt corroded. I have one of these jeeps and i think the yellow wire on the starter reads the voltage for the computer from the battery there…stupid. ( the big positive wire from the battery to starter solenoid)
That's the first item I would have checked.
I have a friend that has a jeep cheerokee, it's only 4 years old and stays broke down, his auto mechanic keeps telling him to get rid of it, it's not worth the money he is spending on it.
I had 1999, 2002, 2005 and 2016 . Never had any electrical issue. Yes there were some minor problems but overall I was very happy with them. The only reason I stopped buying Jeeps is because now they cost way too much.
Domestic cars in general are crap in my opinion.
Exceptions…..
old school, due to simplicity.
Brand New , due to competition and people catching on that they’re trash.
They were also simply crap.
My neighbour has a 2012 Grand Cherokee V8, last year required $14,000 engine rebuild at 50,000 miles.
This is why I drive trucks from the early to mid 90,s.
get a '97 Celica.
When I was wrenching we called Jeeps “Heaps”. When they were made by AMC we called AMC “Ain’t MyCar”!
He could try sanding the grounds on the module and rest of the car. It can help somewhat
My 1995 Grand Cherokee has a 318 5.2. 200k full time 4x4 power door,window,seats cruise all still works..
Scottie keeps himself warm in that 16 ° weather by waving his arms.😅
Just recently bought a 96 Jeep Grand Cherokee; in the two months I've owned it it's been towed three times. THREE.
I had an 03. Broke down every time I drove it. Sell it or junk it. Not worth repairing.
@@sorrowcat2724 Problem is; I already put so much money into it I cant afford another vehicle. And as it stands currently it's not running so I don't think I'd make much selling it. It's been a disaster.
Loved my Jeep, had the i6 engine, super tough engine.
Like the old tube TVs , if it acts up whack it on the side for a quick fix
We had an old Magnavox we used to do that to for years until we bought an RCA.
My neighbors all have Jeeps, I don’t think they’ll watch this video 😂
You know people who don't watch TV don't have flu problems, so, with that logic, pray those Jeep owners don't watch Scotty.
Not all jeeps are bad, some are better than others. Just do your maintenance and you'll be fine
The bad thing about watching car videos on youtube is that you get negative about buy any car at all when all cars have their general problems if you have bad luck with them
😂😂😂 The editor 👌👌👌, "wjen the voltage is low they do things you cant even imagine" transform into robots 🤣🤣🤣
Why have we built so much needless complexity into our vehicles? This proves to me that I need to hang onto my 2012 Toyota Tacoma (with crank up windows & no infotainment system or lane keeping assist) as long as I can. Because you just can't buy simple, reliable, and easy to repair vehicles anymore.
‘The data you’re getting from the sensors are useless’ -S Kilmer
I honestly think that’s a really for every car with electrical problems
He didn't say that. He said they're useless for the problem that car was having specifically. Computers can have wrong data due to a myriad of reasons skewing the data. His point is that valid. If values in fuel were that off that car wouldn't even run.
@@christiantaboada no, he said what I quoted and it can ALSO be applied to the car he is using as an example. That car isn’t the only car with electrical problems where the sensors are useless. Like I said. I have a Chevy Impala doing the same thing right now
Meanwhile, my '08 Commander with 4.7L has 236k miles and has never had a failure. Still has original TPMS sensors and OEM battery. No check engine lights, nothing. Remote start always works, heated seats, A/C, everything. It owes me nothing...will keep it on the road as long as I can...as its a beast in the snow.
Jeeps have always been crap. When I bought a new Jeep CJ5 in 1974 it was a mishmash of parts from GM, Ford, and Chrysler. The government told the big three (GM / Ford / Chrysler) that if they didn't help American Motors / Rambler to survive they would start antitrust cases against them and break them up into smaller competitive car companies. So GM's Buick division sold AMC Jeep. Then Cryselor supplied them with transmissions, GM's Saginaw divisions supplied them with steering columns and other components, and Ford's Autolite division sold them window glass. So the big three created a Frankenstein vehicle called Jeep. And in recent years Fiat got involved and the old Jeeps started looking much better by comparison.
jeeps may not be for you, but they are the very best off road vehicle from the factory for the past 80 years... too bad you missed that part
This happened on my sister's Nissan Sentra I changed the main computer which was located in the engine bay for some reason lol. And it fixed the car.