Ukraine: The Avoidable War
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To be fair, the image of the sending the KKK to Afghanistan, not with any actual armaments, just sending them to get slaughtered by the thousands by the Taliban, is pretty hilarious.
I’d much rather they did that then gave them the vote and a red hat
its gonna be like that scene in Django Unchained
bro why AREN'T they sending the kkk to afghanistan now that i think about it
Should be sending antifa and blm as well!
@@LukeeM_00 in the first 90 seconds of this video, you will see 2 clips of your president directly and totally contradicting himself. "a vote and a red hat", you're rather psychotically comparing people who had concerns over that kind of behavior to an organized lynch mob. if the united states has a problem with "toxic" people who can't be trusted to live in normal society without causing problems, you're at the top of the list. from what i understand, you're also on the side of that argument that doesn't own guns or join the military.
"what did biden know 25 years ago that he doesn't know now?"
well basically everything
"what did biden know 25 years ago that he doesn't know now?" How to speak English
reports say he just finished relearning his abc's for the fifth time
"I was SUGGESTING that we bomb belgrade!" he knew that i guess.
@@stepinside6579 new update- he can't move properly anymore
@@ali1774 I think he won't be learning his vowels anytime soon
Or anytime at all
Have you considered setting up your own central bank and printing your own currency?
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People's Republic of BoyBoy? I'm in.
To the moon?
This would be great for i did a thing!
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As a pole I am sure there is a reason why eastern europe like baltic states or Poland joined NATO and for some even more mysterious reason why it is because of russia.
yeah but hes a huge tankie so ofc he simps for putin (a far right autocrat) lmao.
Nnaaaaaah dude, have you considered america bad? None of those countries have any autonomy because uuuuhh.. muh western imperialism and stuff. Poor little Russia was forced into this position, obviously.
@@kite9629
Moldova: "Oh boy I sure do hope to be a flourishing democracy some day'
Russia: "Oh would you look at that! You now have a permanent separatist enclave, what a shame..."
And as we all know, Moldova was a very SPOOKY AND SCARY threat to Russia 🤭
So eastern imperialism is better????????? Learn a little more about how our friendly Russian liberators amended the first Polish constitution in Stalin's office. In 1999, we decided to join this terrible Western imperialism. The US is a superpower and it is understandable that it wants to maintain power in NATO to prevent its collapse. But it's the governments job to figure it out. As a person living in my country, I am happy that I am not in the Russian sphere of influence because my parents and grandparents remember how terrible it was.@@kite9629
yeah, i watched this to get a take on these guys and man the misrepresentation of history is fucking palpable.
I think the sponsor-thing is a great idea. The only thing is that they track how much their product sells through your channel (via the special links that is) and if we don't buy it, the company stops sponsoring you. So long term I don't know how well it'll work, but this sounds pretty funny!
Crappy Mobile games like Cassino legends does not care aboth that
just clicking the links up their numbers so we might just need to click the link and then fuck off
I wonder if they truly track sponsorships by how many sales they make, or if they take their data from some other indicator, such as the number of clicks they get, or how many people put in a code, etc. Maybe we could fool them by, for example putting in all of the information, confirming it, and then cancelling the order just before submitting. Or, if they offer refunds, maybe they would be fooled by making lots of sales which immediately get refunded. I have no idea how it's actually tracked, and I'm sure that either way, they would catch on eventually. I'm just throwing ideas out there.
@@MichaelDavis-zu2ko I'm pretty sure they have analytics enabled to figure that out, but the most important metric is the amount of people that actually pushed through with payment
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I watched that 1997 Biden speech, and he seemed to be arguing for the expansion of NATO throughout. Prior to the clip he says "the prospects for [NATO expansion into] the Baltics are real, but more distant." And immediately after the clip you played he says "I believe time, time meaning the next several years, will solve this. The degree to which Russia becomes comfortable with, and it is demonstrated that, expanding NATO is beneficial to their stability... Meaning within this century or early in the next, the Baltics will be admitted into NATO."
I'm not saying NATO and the US demonstrated this at all, but I think leaving the rest of this quote out is a bit misleading.
This video is unfortunately rife with statements out of context. Given the pacing it almost reads as Russian propaganda, if not for careful consideration of the arguments
@@zacablaster I wondered how long that lazy characterisation would take to be used.
@@TalynStormcrow No I agree with that, much of the video does feel exhaustingly pro-Russian. I fact checked a LOT of what they said. They didn't outright lie anywhere, but they certainly misrepresented a lot in the dime way they misrepresented this Biden quote.
For example: they grossly over-represented the power that any nazi party had in Ukraine, among many other simplifications or places where the facts were left out.
I mean, the whole video is misleading and ignores a lot of stuff that happened, the order in which it happened, how much time passed between when each thing happened, and details about why each thing happened. Then it implies that the United States has been spending the past three decades carefully maneuvering Russia to make it invade Ukraine for the enrichment of the US somehow... when the Russian invasion is very much bad for US interests. There's a lot of deliberate misinformation and there's a lot of ascribing malice to that which would be better explained by incompetence.
@@gamera5160 absolutely. Your take is the most based so far, anyone who would ignore the impact of Russian meddling on western democracy is an asshat. Sure, on the face of things, it would seem like the US wanted any of this to happen because they made a shit load of money. But the US does not like humanitarian crises, they are very bad for business. There was much more money to be made, but the Russian people could not handle a fair trade society and it collapsed. Anybody who blames the US for stopping evil with a gun™ is basically just as culpable as the asshat. You have a better policy that will accomplish your goals and not kill civilians? Why haven't I ever heard of you, or it, before?
The ultimate irony here is Australians, who share America's geographic security but not its resource riches making thier case for what a larger, more powerful nation should do. Cool take, fortunately we don't need to listen to you because you don't have any ability to enforce yourself globally. Don't even have the economic capacity to engage in tacit discontent. Maybe if Aussies weren't owned by China we would hear a different story, but they aren't and we don't.
Honestly you being so honest about the ads is so refreshing to hear, I'd say do it, everyone skips ads anyway so it's literally a win win
Agreed
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it honestly made me fall in love with this channel, the best content
Couldn't agree more with everything steamthewolf said
Being honest doesnt change the fact that he’s a layman with superficial to incorrect knowledge on the topic. While I absolutely agree that the war was unnecessary, the asshole to blame is 100% putin who is a fascist imperialist and cant accept that former soviet states doesnt want to be ruled by his shitstate and trash economy.
Generally the war can be characterized by russia choosing to rather attack and invade a country rather than letting it slip from his influence. Countries freely making a decision not to align with russia, or even just thinking about it, is not grounds for invasion. This is not a shades of grey situation. Lots of countries have done shady shit, the US is way up there with the shadiest of them, those actions in no way justify or diminish the horrific actions of russia.
This is the perfect comment I've been looking for. Just *french kiss*.
Exactly, I'm a bit disappointed in the one-sided take of the video. Refreshing to see some points, quotes etc not seen in more Ukraine-positive coverage, sure, but so many conclusions with a clear lack of evidence. Ukraine has neo-nazis gets blown up to really support the Russian narrative of them being full-on nazis - though it is a point that has yet to really be fully cleared up as they did make a battalion out of it with obvious nazi symbolism...
Dead wrong, its not about influence its about Russias security and future. If Russia does not intervene Ukraine commits genocide in Donetsk region killing all the ethnic Russians there. Ukraine blows up Crimean bridge and takes Crimea cause Russia no longer has land connection to it and cant supply the region. After Ukraine invites US fleet in place of Russia's Black Sea Fleet. Aaaand then you orchestrate coup d'etat in Belarus, and hell even take some Russian territory, Zelensky just signed a document with "historic lands that belong to Ukraine" listing there Russian border regions.
you're over simplifying it. there are many Russians living there and people who choose Russia over EU in the east of the country. It began as a civil war before Russia invaded
@@VEKSTBARABANCHIK A civil war that got initiated by very Ukrainian people like Igor Girkin who had the very ukrainian job of being a FSB-Agent.
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@@MrPaxio doomsday prep shops will go for anything
@@aaronwilson9261 I'd actually love to see a sponsorship for a hardcore doomsday prep shop
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well the thing is that NATO and Russia never signed anything to clarify NATO wont expand but the thing is that Ex Soviet and Warsaw pact nations wanted to join NATO because they knew that they are not safe with Russia
This is a big lie. The political campaigns to join NATO were sponsored by arms industry lobby groups, who were looking to profit from converting Eastern European armies to NATO equipment. This is well documented in Western media.
@@jamesrowlands8971 Come on, do you really think it would be just that simple? I'm sure that what you're describing was a relevant factor, but far from the only reason. russia's actions towards its neighbours, namely Georgia, probably played a really big role in it too.
russia messes with its neighbours, if it can get away with doing so. Joining NATO is, clearly, a really good way to make sure russia does not mess with you. It's a means to an end for most of the smaller countries bordering russia.
ps. the 70% of people wanted the USSR back was total BS, only the Russian boomers wanted it back but most of the post soviet states are happy being a free country
And when they join the other side, they’ll find that the other guy somehow cares even less about you and they just want for your position and resources. It really sucks to be a Ukrainian, they’re basically stuck between joining imperialist exploitative piece of shit alliance number one and imperialist exploitative piece of shit alliance number two.
@@GotYa the OSCE and UN concluded that Georgia was the aggressor in South Ossetia. You were also lied to about that conflict.
Please note the intentional misinformation when he says “26 million Russians died”. He means 26 million Soviets, 7 million of those being Ukrainians.
@@redundantstuff100 holy just watched that video, insane
The prevailing perception among some Western populations suggests a significant influence of cultural conditioning, leading to the dismissal of alternative viewpoints as mere propaganda. This widespread phenomenon has contributed to a climate of fear and has exacerbated sociopolitical divisions within societies. It is noteworthy that various Western governments have implemented measures to restrict access to Russian news sources, categorizing them uniformly as propaganda. This raises the question of whether the suppression of dissenting voices does not itself constitute a form of propaganda. A review of recent historical events indicates a troubling pattern; instances in which accusations of atrocities have been levied against other nations often coincide with similar actions undertaken by those making the accusations. It's time to look beyond what you have been fed and use critical thinking to be able to profoundly comment on any given subject.
Hate to break it to ya pal but Ukraine was part of Russia at the time, u know how the Soviet Union was all one country lmao
@@TN-ju4ro kind of, they actually still denoted differences to each-other for example Ukraine was called the Ukrainian Soviet socialist republic, same with Kazakhstan, Latvia etc, so they did still keep the difference between each-other noted
@@TN-ju4ro do you think the regions that USSR was broken up into just happened randomly? No the countries in the eastern block and also countries like Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan etc had their own culture and society long before the USSR. Ukrainians existed before the USSR.
"a drunk guy called Boris" is the funniest thing ever said in a geopolitical analysis of the war-profit machine.
Life of Boris Boris or ...?
@@xanmontes8715though I love life of Boris, his gaming and cooking videos are great, this is not the same boris, this video is talking about Boris Yeltson
Could also be boris johnson
@@xanmontes8715 yeees Boris, **plays cheeki breeki hardbass**
Not much about this video is a geopolitical analysis, he is clearly biased and therefore skipping important parts and blowing up others that actually have less relevance but fit his narrative. Watch actual political scientists if you want a genuine geopolitical analysis
A large amount of the comments I saw were about the sponsors not the actual video which feels odd.
Agreed
Yeah, I find this weird too. Botted?
@@ErikUden maybe, I mean you’d expect a video like this to have politically split comments everywhere
@@FirstNameLastName-gh9iw I mean, it does, but I've also noticed the disproportionately large amount of people talking about the sponsor.
I haven't watched the self-promotion section of the video, because I have RUclips Vanced, a free RUclips app that skips all ads, even inside of Videos, so I didn't see it. Maybe they asked a question in there so that people would answer to it?
Seriously, all the comments are either critical comments with about 10 likes or comments talking about sponsors with about 3000 likes. wtf
Fun fact, the Putin boyfriend song is actually a satire. And it continues soaring above heads-from east to west-to this day.
@@goluboi_tramwhychiksadly it is
@@moma8518 okay, it is, I forgot what "satire" means 😭
@@goluboi_tramwhychik Satire was banned by North Korea, it no longer exists. Just saw it on one of their previous videos
Robocop used to be satire
@@Parallelwurlds Robocop is so awesome. One of the few movies I consider to be basically perfect. The political subtext is even more relevant today.
That's crazy how eastern Europe was invaded by NATO. Oh? What's that? They begged and fought to be in NATO? huh. I WONDER WHY
Putin is NATOs best salesman
@@jakereynolds8897 For real
I’m sick of this as an argument by people who are otherwise reasonably intelligent. Blaming NATO or simply saying Ukraine should agree to never join them or the EU is the equivalent of Australia leaving the ANZUS treaty because it upsets China or Indonesia. Russia has no right to govern Ukraines foreign policy and it’s a weak and ignorant excuse.
Russia is literally cucked in the 90s and Putin even fucking wanted to join Nato in the very early 2000s.
Russia is still being slightly antagonized after the collapse of the USSR. Imagine if Nato allow Russia to join Nato when Putin asked for it.
Ukraine wouldn't be shit fest and Putin will still be a pro west mf.
NATO membership for Ukraine can only work as a cover to give the far right loons permanent control over the foreign policy there, just as it has in Poland, the Baltics and now Finland.
At the end of the cold war we had a chance to trade the US for a much weaker, more cooperative and more economically valuable partner in Russia. It would have helped Russia democratise too. Instead we're left tied to the sinking ship of that grotesque US empire and Russia is stuck as a fortified, paranoid tyrrany.
NATO's continued existence past 1991 is absolutely the most to blame for this.
I think you’re wrong about blaming the nato expansion into the east only on the US and the old NATO members.
The countries of Eastern Europe wanted to get into NATO because they wanted to save themselves from Russian influence. And judging from the events in Chechnya, Georgia and Ukraine they were damn right about this.
I live in Eastern Europe and know how it works. Usa corrupt local goverment to do things they want. For example to create hate against local russians and Russia itself. They were hateful to Russia long before war in Ukraine here. For no particular reason. It all artificially made conflicts by Intelegent services and gready corporations owners
I don't think he or "pro-Russians" have the position that Poland or the Baltics states have no right to get away from Russia. The problem we have is that it's awful for Westerners to pretend (or being extremely ignorant about) Russia having no reason to be gravely concerned by having a death-worshipping piece of filth empire like the US move their military power closer to Moscow and Saint Petersburg.
You have to remember that the decision makers in Moscow, however bad they are themselves, have to deal with the reality of the real US and NATO that manipulate and destroy foreign countries every couple of years in the Middle East or other places, and they might be next someday. Not your at-odds-with-data abstractions about the US and NATO being knights on white horses defending the weak against evils like Russia and China (and whoever US decisionmakers don't like). In the case of Ukraine that place was very politically and culturally split in a West and East side. They would not join NATO in one piece independently is what I'm saying. I don't know why you guys have a hard time accepting that the current Ukrainian state is a violently installed junta by the West that has been suppressing pro-Russian voices in the Ukraine since 2014 and the whole place is extremely corrupt and terrible. Despite the fact that the US has been doing that a hundred times around the world during and after the Cold War.
The kavkaz was Russias 9/11 moment. Russias war on terror is unrelated to the NATO question. The NATO expansion was unprovoked. Not letting Russia in was proof this expansion was a hostile attack. Russia never started a war, fascists funded by America did however now twice.
@@daseapickleofjustice7231 Not letting Russia in was proof that they didn't meet the criteria
@@JJosszz but they did
I like how everyone can agree that we all hate politicians more than politics.
Politics are among the most interesting subject in the world.. A shame no politician is ever interested in them
What we hate is capitalism. It's the power of capital held by the oligharcs that decide who are the ruling politicians. Politicians are merely puppets. What's behind them is the interest of capital. All capital wants is expanding itself through profit.
I wonder who funds these evil politicians
@@JuT11Politics is like the NFL and politicians are the players. It doesn't matters who wins or who loses and the players get paid very well regardless. None of this crap really matters, politics is a job and they're all power and money-crazy narcissists.
The average man or woman is more interested in politics than the politician
Hey Boy Boy, it would be great if you could list your sources in political videos such as these, since it is hard to verify if what you are saying is true. Just saying that with such a political topic, this would be highly advisable, at least thats what I think. But anyway, great video!
Yeah the “eastward” comment in regards to NATO was in reference to Germany and he failed to mention the far right of Russia, or that the independent nations in the east of Ukraine had state broadcasters calling out Ukraine for being in the hand of Zionism and Jewish money…
Forgets that Ukraine was independent as a Socialist nation during the civil war till the Soviets took over… like god the lack of research here is astounding, just made a video for the views it seems ngl
@@raquetdude Also ignoring the sole reason why eastern european countries want to be in NATO - Russia's constant threats and meddling in internal politics. Even now, Russia has been threatening Finland and Sweden with military action.
@@raquetdude I agree with your criticism, but you also got to remember, that this is one dude, who does this in his free time. I don't think that it is just for the views, or at least the views aren't the main objective here, but rather a tool to spread the idea, that this isn't a conflict between good (US) and bad (Russia). Still I agree that with such a topic it is nearly mandatory to do a better research, even if you are alone, because of the claims and "accusations". I also asked them to put their sources in the description.
@@hex_1733 ... Yeah and threatening because why? Because Finland is about to drop a NATO application. Thinking is allowed.
@@rintsi5689 Do you think threatening an independent nation that your country has already tried to invade twice will make them more or less likely to want to join the strongest military alliance in the world.
I wonder why every nation in the Warsaw Pact except for Russia wanted to join NATO, to the point that Poland blackmailed the Democrat party to do so.
Russia wanted to join NATO too
@@Boy_Boy Russia never formally applied to join NATO, the closest you can get to a formal application is a verbal agreement between The US and the USSR (Not Russia) - which is irrelevant as not only does the USSR no longer exist but a single member can not negotiate on NATO’s behalf - and an expression of interest in 2000.
Even if Russia did formally apply in 2000, it would’ve required several ex-Warsaw Pact nations to agree on it (fat chance) and also a majority of Russia’s population to vote on entry (unlikely).
Again, there’s a reason all of the ex-Warsaw pact countries aswell as the Baltic States were desperate to join NATO and made it a foreign policy objective of theirs.
the leftist takes on russia-ukraine are killing its credibility. please learn about it. if you need to i have provided the content in youtube video form so that you may be able to digest it ruclips.net/video/7OFyn_KSy80/видео.html@@Boy_Boy
Nice, you believe Tucker too? Russia never applied to join NATO.@@Boy_Boy
@@Boy_Boy You're only excusing Putin's justifications for invading countries of the former USSR because admitting that Russia's actions were inexcusable would force you to admit that your home country Serbia's actions against former members of Yugoslavia were also inexcusable, which would justify NATO's 1999 intervention that shaped your entire childhood worldview and sense of identity.
I sympathise that it sucks to be caught on the receiving end of a US led bombing campaign but allowing your childhood trauma to dictate your victim blaming onto the Ukrainians for having the Russians invade them just because they wanted to join the rest of Europe in peace and prosperity is a REALLY bad take and one that helps nobody, not least yourself. Even the Russians here in the comment section are calling you out ffs.
I think one important thing to note about the Euromaidan protests that ultimately led to Yanukovych getting removed from office is the fact that the thing that really triggered them was that Yanukovych had allowed russia to pressure him into refusing to sign an agreement between Ukraine and the EU (the agreement was purely diplomatic and economic in nature, mind you, and the EU is not NATO, so this doesn't have anything to do with a NATO expansion), even though that agreement had already received the support of a majority of the ukrainian parliament.
So, it's not exactly surprising that the protests against a head of state choosing to bow to russian demands rather than to the will of the people took a bit of an anti-russian turn, after all that country had actively taken measures to undermine the democratic process.
This take is bullshit propaganda. It was the EU who was pressuring the Ukrainian government into signing the EU "association agreement" under horrifically catastrophic and lopsided terms that didn't even give them full EU membership or any of the main benefits thereof but would have required them to implement far reaching neoliberal "reforms" like privatize vast swathes of their remaining publicly owned enterprises, infrastructure, and agricultural land, gut their funding for social services, kneecap the labor unions, and most crucially to cut virtually all of their extensive trade relations with Russia and become an exclusive economic vassal of the US and EU, all of which would have destroyed Ukraine's economy and further impoverished the vast majority of its population just like the same neoliberal economic policies have done in the US and all of its other satellite states around the world. Russia's proposed trade agreement had no such strings attached, and when EU negotiators introduced these new demands the choice became obvious for anyone whose brain hadn't been rotted by ultra-nationalist and Western neoliberal propaganda. Russia's government had previously even supported the EU association agreement plans for Ukraine because it would have helped both countries before it became obvious that it was just intended to drive a wedge between Ukraine and Russia for the sake of Western economic and geopolitical interests.
Especially when you consider that russia poisend presidential canidates
@@sticy5399You need to learn English before writing lies!
The original agreement of the 1991 was for the Ukraine not joining NATO. There was no EU then so if there was EU the same would had been concerning that. The agreement of 1991 had to bee followed by Ukraine because the majority of the territories before the Ukrainian Soviet Republic has been announced had belonged to Russia. So, who was trying to break the agreement - Russia or Ukraine?
Part of the issue was that the European Association Agreement (the one in question here) had reduced tariffs as one of its terms. This would allow Ukraine access to Western goods for a reduced price in exchange for Ukrainian resources.
That's all well and good. The issue arises when you consider that Russia and Ukraine already had such an agreement in place.
So if Ukraine joins both, Russia's domestic market could be undercut by a flood of cheap European goods coming through Ukraine.
Ukraine could not be party to both treaties without complications. Hence the political-economic pressure.
Russia ultimately offered the better deal short term, hence Yanukovich's backing out.
Also I wonder why half the comments are talking about the sponsorship/patron issue which constitutes less than 5 minutes of the video rather than what the topic the video us made on
because that is what he asked us for our thoughts about
I have a strong feeling that they are deleting comments. We all know that there are a lot of ppl who can't wait to share their political views on even videos that have nothing to do with politics but suddenly when there's a whole video on it, they're nowhere to be found...weird.
It’s almost like he’s deleting negative comments that call him out on being a Russian propagandist…
@@matthewharper866 I'm sorry, what?
@@matthewharper866 It's almost like you're a casual conspiracy theorist 'murican who thinks everything is pro-russian and shit if they're not with you.
I believe in that clip, Biden was actually talking about NATO expansion into the Baltics. That happened 2002-2004 and still wasn't enough to trigger an open war. Russia was actually more hesitant to respond with war than Biden's (and others') predictions.
The game of chicken just never stopped I guess.
Because back then Russia was even trying to join NATO.
Because 'NATO's expansion' it's an excuse and not a reason. Putin was preparing this invasion for years now, and would proceeded anyway, Ukraine was never really considered to be part of NATO - because everyone knows that Russia wants it for itself and so Ukraine is too risky to be included in the pact. can we stop repeating that expanding nato has anything to do with this brutal and imperialistic attack of Russia please?
@@jazy3091 why didn't he do it in say 2014-2015 then? Ukraine would not be able to put up any resistance back then. But no, he invades now, when Ukraine has been pumped full of weapons by the NATO. But nah, they are not expanding, it's not threatening at all.
@@Даниил-н8н umm, dude 2014 was actually first step of invasion. You know Russia carved large chunks of Ukraine in this year right? You know that after doing so Russia left that exact part to degrade under warlords rule. Since then Putin strengthened his worldwide propaganda, meddling in politics of so many countries, preparing for this moment. It all went so catastrophically bad for him bc he didn't take few factors into account, he truly believed he's well prepared for the invasion. Luckily he was wrong.
Ah excuse me, this is my tankie alarm going off.
ok and?
Tankies are unironically some of my favorite people
@@Fin55Fin and tankies are stupid traitors who have betrayed democracy in favor of bootlicking dictators and authoratarians
@@Fin55Fin Bro rlly thought his comment did something 😭
@@Fin55Fin Oh my god, the reddit neckbeards have infiltrated boyboy.
My favourite is when creators add 'chapters' to the timeline, to help you skip past the ads
that's a genius idea!
@@Boy_Boy petscop 2
@@Boy_Boy As long as the advertiser does not explicitly forbid it, you can add an on screen annotation which skips past the sponsored segment or a similar mechanism for users to avoid seeing the ad. You would think advertisers would have learned to require this in their contracts. You would think...
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He's paid by Putin anyway so the ads don't matter.
And straight to the ruSSian propaganda
I have quarrels with this video's over emphasis on Neo-Nazis and the media.
Yes, it is true that right-wing and far-right did had a presence in government after 2014 Euromaidan, like the Svoboda or the National Front, but make no mistake, Poroshenko was in charge the whole time, not the far-right. Governments under Poroshenko were either majority from his party (European Solidarity, which is not far-right nor right-wing mind you) and non far-right small coalition parties, or short-live in the case of the first government after Euromaidan that was dominated by far-right parties, but it lasted less than a year. And after Zelenskyy and the 2019 Rada election, practically all far-right or right-wing MPs were voted out, and Zelenskyy's government has next to no right-wing nor far-right members. People that you mentioned in the video who're far-right, Andriy Biletsky (first commander of Azov battalion), Oleh Makhnitskyi (he was in government for less than a year), Oleksandr Sych (also in government for less than a year), they weren't in government after 2019. Do you know who's still in office? Vitali Klitschko, the boxer you mentioned, who's the mayor of Kyiv since 2014 and stayed in the city throughout the Russian invasion and bombing, especially when they're mere miles from the city center, and he actively promoted the situation on the ground to us Westerners. Saying Ukraine's government is or imply it's Neo-fascist is not only wrong, as it never had majority nor significant power, but it is completely false after 2019, so it's outdated information. Plus not saying the far-right had loss their footing in Parliament plays into Putin's fallacy that he's de-nazifying Ukraine, which is just a lie.
In the case of the far-right militia, Kyiv government had nothing to do with this. They were self-organized militia groups that went to or established themselves in Ukraine after Russia first invaded in 2014, Ukraine made no effort to set up these groups. And it's not Ukraine's fault that far-right militias are in Ukraine, Russia invaded Ukraine which created battlefields, conditions that attracted these people. And what else could they do?? Groups like the Azov Battalion did help in the War in the Donbas, Kyiv could kick them out or disband them (hard to do since most of them are Ukrainian and they organized themselves without government initiative) and allow further encroachment by Putin, which is the worst case scenario, or to semi-organize them so they could keep holding Russia at bay while having some leverage over them as they're now part of the chain of command (at least on paper), which is what they did by incorporating these militias into voluntary battalions, which is part of the National Guard. And you didn't mention that they weren't the star of the show in the War in Donbas, they might be eye-catching with their flags, salutes and Neo-Nazi stands, but it was the Ukrainian Army and the backbone of the National Guard that did the hard work in the Donbas.
In the case of media, you also forgot to mention that Ukrainian media today is still dominated by oligarchs. In fact, that article you used in the video, "How Zelensky’s administration moves to dismantle press freedom in Ukraine" by Kyiv Independent mentioned this exact fact. And Zelenskyy did more than just "attack" the press, he also passed a law to have a public registry of oligarchs and ban them from owning media groups. With this info in mind, you can say that Zelenskyy is either attacking an "independent" media (independent as in not owned by the government but owned by private oligarchs), or he's trying to make this oligarch-dominated Ukraine media more independent from oligarchs.
this video is hilarious because the Ukrainian military straight up mutinied against the police force in Kiev arming the protestors to fight the oppressive police. I cannot imagine how this guy took that information and somehow concocted it to be that the Nazi's were behind it all and the west's cabal of world leaders sanctioned Neo-nazi groups. This is straight up Russian propaganda.
A fellow Ukrainian? Edit. Nvm see you refered to yourself as westerner. I had the exact same thoughts as you in your comment, thanks for saving me time writing it out haha.
To add to this, the emphasis that was put on the leaked ambassador call which could also be interpreted as trying to mediate the situation to stabilize the country versus nothing said about for example who owned the media channels Zelensky shut down, or the WAY more obvious and significant Russian meddling in our politics compared to US.
And yes the Azov situation is complicated but I think it has been handled in the best way possible: admit them into the military to take control (which many people stupidly equate to government supporting those groups), allow them to fight to both save the country at the time of military weakness and also to weed down the very ranks of hardcore nationalists.
@@Petricpwnz I find it weird how fixated pro Russia people are on the AZOV battalion when at its MAX it had 3K personnel in the battalion. Literally 3% of Ukraine's entire military was a far right Neo Nazi organization and now suddenly the whole military is Neo Nazi somehow. Makes no fucking sense.
@@Voraciouscommentary Mostly because Russian propaganda keeps working with this angle like there is no tomorrow since it's basically the only moral jusrification they can sell to their own population so it gets talked about unreasonably much. Even near the start of Azov's existence they self-reported as consisting of about 15-20% real nazis, nowadays with integration into the military it's likely considerably less due to more filtering on new recruits etc. There are even actual russians fighting in Azov because they feel it's the most effective way they can use their abilities to directly combat Putin's regime.
Overall anyone with a braincell or two can look at the factual evidence of existence or absence of popular support of nazism: far right representation in the parliament. And it's practically non-existent. In the end it all amounts to shouting loud about a nazi minority and those exist in every nation.
The one thing Russians are doing right now hovewer is breeding more NEW extremist nationalists by invading, and this time they have not just ideology they picked up somewhere, but ideology molded by having their family blown to pieces by a Russian artillery strike.
Wall of text larger than Trump's wall rip also tl;dr
As a Ukrainian living in Australia, I feel compelled to clarify some misleading and potentially harmful information presented in this video regarding Ukrainians.
The video distorts the historical context of Ukrainian collaboration with the Nazis. Although it correctly mentions that only "some Ukrainians" collaborated, the narrative misleadingly suggests that such collaboration was widespread and that Nazi ideologies were supported and "celebrated" by Ukrainians at large.
This exaggeration is akin to saying Australia is a communist country because its largest trading partner is China, implying that Australians support modern Chinese concentration camps and the genocide of Uighurs. While Australia does trade with China for national interests, it does not endorse their policies.
During World War II, small group of activists in Ukraine saw collaboration with Nazi Germany as a strategic move to gain independence from Soviet Russia, not as an endorsement of Nazi ideologies. While this still constitutes collaboration, it hardly indicates agreement with Nazi beliefs. Moreover, the Germans rejected the Ukrainian proclamation of independence, and the movement's leader was arrested by the Gestapo.
Neo-Nazism in Ukraine is a separate, modern phenomenon. The video inaccurately portrays it as a major political force, while in reality, it is a fringe movement with views not widely shared by the broader Ukrainian society.
Lastly, the video misrepresents Ukraine as divided between Russians in the East and Ukrainians in the West. All residents are Ukrainian, with the eastern half being Russian-speaking-a result of Soviet colonial policies, similar to French-speaking regions in Canada. To label these regions as "French people parts" would be misleading, just as it is incorrect to label Eastern Ukraine as "Russian."
Thanks, as much as I like BoyBoy's videos, I feel like they often exaggerate (whether on accident or purpose) certain aspects, which can lead to spreading misinformation. This should be pinned if I'm being honest.
@@okarthegreat I hoenstly think its his rhetoric on America that's giving off this weird sort of anti-west sort of thing hes got going on. As much as i love his north korea video i just cant agree with his takes.
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Your bias towards not admitting the large amount of nazis in Ukraine is understandable, but false.
Regardless, it’s not a reason to invade another country. Every EU nation has nazis. Doesnt mean its up for grabs.
@@Facerip no it's not false at all, there are literally no "large amount of nazis" in Ukraine, there are far more in Germany, France and Italy, than in Ukraine
Wow! Your take on the 1993 coup had less context than a 30 second superbowl ad. Truly jaw-dropping degrees of bias - well done, bravo! Outdone yourselves buds
Explain
He says while giving no context at all
Woah the NATO expanded cause Russia's neighbours got scared of Russia after Chechnya and Georgia! Who would've thought?
@@Idontreallyknow-i7t purely defensive bro trust me
*Created to destroy the USSR and funds genocide*
Who would have thought the breakup of the soviet union was something literally no one wanted
@@Commielover69 ye, except all of the states that wanted independence
@@27augis all the people that was part of the ussr want the union back
@@Commielover69 im from one of those countries and nobody wants that. No- bo- dy
Why was most of the former eastern block so hellbent on joining NATO? Talvisota.....
Apparently it's because NATO pressured them, and not because they have a militaristic imperialist neighbor that doesn't respect country's borders.
@@zacharychristy8928 The same reason my country joined the EU. Pressured into it, people couldn't vote on that either. Bum fucked so they have more nations to control and steal from. Keeping us poor is their main objective so they can control us. And now we couldn't vote on taking the Euro in instead of our own currency. No one wants it but "democracy" didn't let us vote and we will be fucked in 2024 onwards.
they wanted handouts from the USA
They're next to the United States?@@zacharychristy8928
Almost like centuries of living under russian rule has taught them a thing or two about their "brotherly" neighbor.
I’d have no problem seeing some sponsorships as long as we’re all in it to scam the big corporations!
The clever part is we can't *all* be in on it. And then the devious thing about ads is that they are form of psychological manipulation, after certain amount of exposure to a thing people become accustomed to it.
So even if 90% of people who watch now or would watch this channel sometime in the future agree to this "scheme" - the corps still win. Or stop money. Or they might stop money but still win in a long run.
I disagree
It all relies on you fighting every urge to buy a stupid product!
@@Makujah_ I can't buy their subscriptions if I'm forever too poor to afford them! Take that corpos! Can't take money I don't have!
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Sponsored by Putin and RT
I'm a bit late to the party, but as someone from Russia I just wanted to say that this... piece of fine media would have definitely been shown on our TV during prime time if it had been recorded in Russian.
It hits all the Russian propaganda bingo points, using all the same tactics: misrepresentation of facts, cherry-picking, and outright lying.
Great job! I've never fully lost respect for someone in just 18.5 minutes before. It's impossible to be that misinformed after going through all the cited sources unless you have an agenda behind your back.
a rare sane russian? wow
Same here and thanks for calling it out. I'm so very disappointed. This whole video is pure propagnda and I really thought this guy was relatively smart. You wanna justify invading a country (Ukraine) unprovoked and ki11 ing hundreds of thousands of people? Unsubbed, fuck that. Also the artivle he posted at 16:15 is from World Socialist Web Site (WSWS)... lol come on now
12:56 2nd Mistake. Russia has the Wagner group and Sparta battalion who are open neo nazis
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And Rusich
You mean this guy would lie ??? He would never do that
Errr, I don’t get your jump from „Russia getting sold off“ to „Russia needs a military buffer zone“.
Any country who faces genocide at the hands of the Amerikkkan regime needs a military buffer zone or else they end up like Libya or North Korea
Sure, let's assume that USA buying themselves into every government or supporting coups that they later then fight against like ISIS(keeping the war machine running nice and away from their own territory, literally making trillions from people dying abroad) is somehow not at all relevant to the whole story of the country getting sold out, the Americans being directly responsible for the economic state of russian people for decades until now.
It's clear that America wants to have their puppet hands up every politician's ass in places they have should be blocked off from for good. They went over everyone's will and then will talk about 'democracy' meanwhile they topple every government they can that's not fond of USA's fucking over the whole world for their own benefit.
It happened so many times that the USA as a country constitutes to be on par with Nazi Germany and the likes for killing millions of people to push their agenda through their sleazy backdoor deals with the opposition in countries they should have fuck all to say.
But it keeps happening, even in Ukraine, where a good portion is russian and they went on to support the nazi militias that became part of the actual army just to fuck over the government that wasn't bending over to get used by the Americans as they please.
Why would anyone in their right mind not see that as an attack on their own people who would then be at the mercy of some proper neonazis in a country virtually part of the US military industrial complex?
It's mostly because its propagandizing wank
This war is incredibly preventable; putin could've not of done it
Did you even watch the video? He in no way denies that it was preventable on Russia's end. He just states that the US is also to blame because they set the situation up in a way to allow and even encourage Russian invasion
@@imaadhaq540 This is the geopolitical version of "If she didnt want to get r*ped she shouldnt have dressed like that"
@imaadhaq540 Can't blame Cold War paranoia for all of your actions. Russian leaders could've easily seen the state of play, remain a powerful and respected exporter of resources and begun a silent revolution like the Chinese. Now the Chinese are about to rival America for technological and industrial superiority and Russia will be selling raw resources to China at a heavy discount while the average Russian suffers severely. 100,000s dead for a piece of land smaller than most US COUNTIES, "America made me do this" ☝️🤓
omg really?????
@@imaadhaq540 are you ill? All the countries that joined NATO did it becuse they wanted to, all of us from eastern europe know what happened here during Russian rule and we are all really glad that we don't have to deal with their bullsh*t alone anymore
Why did you cut off the important context on Biden speech? I though you where fair guys, you lost my trust.
Anyone can have an opinion, thats alright, but you deliberately cut out stuff, exaggerated others, and in the end, this video is just a Pro Putin video, what a shame.
he literally blames Putin in this video too, he just focuses on America because everyone watching is already against Russia, it's western propaganda that he needs to counteract
I began to have my doubts after the Brandon Herrera video but this one really sealed the deal for me.
This is not a pro-Putin video, it is a pro-Facts video. The real shame is that you are too ideologically blinded to see it.
@@dwl3006 pro fact? he twisted the context of what Joe Biden said in the clip by cutting out the part where he says the opposite of what was implied. Bruh
@@MoGumbo_ the full context is that Biden said that expanding NATO to the Baltics would create tension with Russia, though he didn't think it would be military. The even fuller context was that Biden said that he might be completely wrong about what he thinks. The part that the authors wanted to highlight was that Biden knew that expanding NATO could create tensions with Russia. That's not twisting, that's just called highlighting the part where he admits the relevant part. Lawyers do it all the time when they make a case, and he made his case. Twisting is when you leave out information that is relevant. Even if it was twisting, the rest of the video is still facts.
I'll give you a hint though, even if you think Biden's words were twisted and he was saying something else completely, there were plenty of authoritative figures like George Kennan that Biden was aware of, who voiced that expanding NATO would start a war with Russia.
Can you guys compile your research in every video and provide sources in the descriptions or on a separate website? Being able to see and use this research would be useful.
Full of fake news, god seems like kremlin Propaganda repacked
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@Chickent_Nug @miks_w when he wrote the comment it wasn't there but now it is
@@gamingastronaut517 oh gotcha
Any new variation on that view, now that a year has passed?
13:00 "the only country in the world which has full-blown Neo-Nazi formations" - Wagner group isn't coincidentially named so, but took the name from one of their founders Utkin- a Neonazi who adopted the name of Hitler's favorite composer as his nom-de-guerre. Another co-founder, Miltschakow, is a committed Neonazi, open admirer of Adolf Hitler, and known for cutting swastikas into his victims (and not in the sense of Inglorious Bastards, where the cut person is supposedly marked for the rest of their life - he marks the dead bodies, as a signature). They all know each other from, and filled their ranks with other fighters from previous Neonazi-themed ethnically motived PMCs, such as "Slavic Corps", "Russian Imperial League", and other groups which in all regularity openly display Neonazi symbols, doing group hitler salutes and so on, and were running wide net of contact to european Neonazi groups (including martial arts tournaments and so on).
What can be said is that in the post-soviet collapse, a whole lot of soviet military people jumped into the ship of hyper-nationalism, which is why you see these tendencies openly on both sides; but it can be said that proper nazism always goes together best with historic revisionism - a supposedly large and powerful political entity feeling humiliated by a loss of territory, and longing back for their "rightful place" in the world by means of expansion and military aggression. Which, you have to admit, sounds a lot more like Russia than Ukraine, who basically just want out, want to have a new future.
I find it most telling that in the country I live in, Austria, parliamentarians from the most right-wing party (FPÖ), some who actually personally took place in commemorative celebrations of the fallen SS soldiers, or were previously convicted for Hitler-saluting etc.; proper Neonazis from Hitler's birthplace so to speak, walked out on the jewish president Zelensky during a video conference, because he was supposedly representing a Neonazi government and they wanted to "stay neutral" in this conflict. Only makes one laugh at that point. On the other side, a whole number of party members stay not so neutral towards Russia - they were downright comically eager to receive russian money and support, leading to the downfall of the government they got involved in - when the vice-chancellor agreed to meet with a supposed oligarch's daughter to do shady deals, including selling off the state-run construction contracts, as well as throwing away the legal hurdles for that oligarch to create a media empire within Austria - in a private villa in Ibiza, where the whole thing got filmed as the oligarch's daughter was fake and the villa was prepped (marvellous thing, I guess you'd have loved it!). Russia in general is well-established as a supporter for basically all major right-wing and extremist groups in Europe such as Front Nationale, Lega Nord...
You have to admit, from that background, the Nazi claim doesn't quite stick so well.
Absolutely. The implication that Ukraine has more violent, racist, homophobic nationalists fighting for it than russia is complete horseshit. Even then it still wouldn't justify invading that country and killing, raping, and kidnapping tens of thousands of people. Just an insane misrepresentation of the conflict.
Dude in West Ukraine (actual Ukraine) they openly consider Stepan Bandera their national hero... There's nothing equivalent to that in Russia. The worst you can consider in Russia would be their slight rehabilitation of Stalin, but Stalin wasn't exactly some Russian supremacist, he was a cynical, murderous Bolshevik who didn't shy away from throwing many Russians in prison or worse as well.
I agree that calling your opponent Nazis was weak from the Kremlin's side, it's ironically insulting to the old Nazis to compare the Ukrainian far right losers who like to roleplay to actual competent monsters. However the threat to the population in Crimea and Donetsk where the vast majority don't want to be "liberated" by the Ukrainian Army is real and the only thing stopping them from doing that was the Russian Army.
@@uncleadi I'll sum that up: let's ignore what is actually happening and go for cheap pseudo-historic symbolism. None of this conflict was caused by Bandera nationalists, and right wing symbols like this are othwrwise entirely accepted by Russia - show me one other example where they are oh so disgusted by similiar ultranationalists. In Hungary? In Serbia? In Germany? Austria? France? Italy? Within their own army? Within their own government ministers? They always get along exceptionally well with that sort of group - just not in Ukraine. Therefore "nazis" are not the actual problem that created this conflict in 2014. And please check your chronology if you want to claim that the 2014 election caused any sort of reaction - it was a proactive russian intervention through and through, with Russia sending unmarked troops and arming separatists before the rightfully elected pro-western government had even taken office.
Please tell me this: In this conflict, which side is representing the aggressive revisionist ideology, who's breaking all international laws and regularly acts in bad faith to restore their former position of power? Which side has literally been following Hitler's Czechoslovakia 1938 playbook to the letter, and expected a Chamberlain response?
You have omitted one word in your quote of Aleksa. The actual quote is "Ukraine is the only country in the world that (!!!) openly (!!!) has full-blown Neo-Nazi formations in it's military". Here's some facts:
1 - Wagner is a Private Military Company, and PMCs are officially banned in Russia's law, same as mercenary work is criminalized in general [vs] Azov is an official battalion of Ukraine's National Guard.
2 - Wagner's leaders were recently killed in Russia after an attempted "coup" under mysterious circumstances [vs] Azov's leader POWs are actively being negotiated for and returned to Ukraine from Turkey.
So yes, now that a year has passed (and Wagner is pretty much dissolved at this point) it's even clearer that while Russia (as well as other countries, as Aleksa says) does have a bunch Neo-Nazis in their military forces (probably more than most, tbh), at least on paper they have always pretended and keep pretending that those are not official. Ukraine does not.
P.S. Disclaimer - do not judge on whose side I am based on this comment, I'm just presenting facts about a relatively small part of a much bigger and complicated conflict.
Also I feel like the same disclaimer can be applied to Aleksa's video in general, except he presents much more facts about much more parts of the war.
@@tonyhouse8500 i have to add, the Wagner rebellion happened after my post here, at the time of writing it was a perfectly accepted and propagandistically celebrated part of the russian war effort - I mean, they followed Prigoshin around on russian TV to do recruiting for his PMC inside russian prisons, for christ's sake. Therefore, as to regards of Russia "prohibiting" mercennary groups, I have to ask: is that the same kind of legal "prohibition" that they have regarding terrorist groups, meaning "it's illegal, yes, but only if it hurts our interest" (their official position regarding Hamas and other islamist extremist groups way before this recent escalation)?
when you are so anti war you start blaming the victim
Are you saying that the US is the victim? Because in no way does this video blame Ukraine. The video literally explains how both Russia and the West have fucked Ukraine over
@@noa9125 yes it does, pay attention. in practice the video explains nothing, it misinforms and outright lies about some things.
the only time the US and Europe fucked Ukraine over was in 2014 when they refused to react in any meaningful way to the annexation of Crimea.
“But Ukraine asked for this war by wanting to decide their own destiny instead of being a Russian client state like Belarus. You see war is bad, and Ukraine should have done whatever Russia wanted to avoid the war.”
Stupid line of thinking
there was no war from the time the soviet union collapsed until the maidan when the west tried to overthrow yanukovich. this retarded reasoning of "countries deciding their own destiny and can do whatever they want with no consequences" has no place in international relations. by that logic, russia decided its own destiny, to attack ukraine for antagonizing russia.@@kyrieelite
Ukraine is the only victim who can let the far right commit a slaughter for a decade and then not deserve the consequences. As an Ukrainian you westerners are played like fools. But you have no choice in this conflict, Ukraine will be saved from Hitler again.
You have some real inaccuracies in this one.
he just like
left out everything that had something to do with "hey, we would actually like to join nato"
@@Ikiloo_ average westerner who doesn't have a clue repeat this narrative
@Ikiloo_ The problem is, not all the population supported it, just the ones in government at the time. In the case of Ukraine, the Yanukovych government that decided against a path to NATO was just as legitimate as the government of Yushenko before that favoured it. Only the US didn't want to leave Ukrainian democracy swinging forever between pro-US and pro-Russia, so they forced the issue and have spent every moment since promoting propaganda that Ukraine was united behind the pro-NATO idea - which it manifestly wasn't, right up until Russia's invasion.
This kind of division has existed to varying degrees across all the old Soviet union. In the baltics, they just ran roughshod over the russian-supporting population.
And it has the effect of empowering far-right, anti-soviet nationalists who like to falsify history and erase their own countries' endemic left-wing movements.
They are scum of the same cut as Putin and NATO absolutely enables them.
@@ilmari1452
The yanukovych government didn't decide against nato. it decided against EU.
You also have to understand that the protests did not only spark cuz of yanukovychs withdrawal from the trade agreement but also because of draconian laws that were being put in to place regarding freedom of speech and freedom of protest. The US had absolutley nothing to do with that, and they did not remove anyone from government.
and since you are mentioning the far right in ukraine.
it is completley false to assume that they had any political relevance before the full scale invasion of ukraine.
there was no institutional falsefication of history. i would argue that there has been done way to little to effectivley process ukrainian history and soviet history and rather stay in that soviet nostalgia for a while longer.
you have to understand that there would have been no future for ukrainian democracy under yanukovych. it would have turned out like belarus.
Americans did a lot to apease russia in ukraine and it would be foolish to assume that they deliberatley snatched away power from the ukrainian people or something.
@@automatedrussianbotspeaking as a Lithuanian citizen, please enlitghten us esterner 😊
It's a bit to simple to say Jeltsin sold away Russia. Gorbatsjov started with that long before after ending the cold war. But Jeltsin made an art out of it.
very true!
Putin didn't do anything for the economy , he was lucky gas prices doubled when he started his presidency.
Truly an art 😂😂
Come on, Yeltsin't times corruption was a joke comparing to what is going the 23 years of Putin's reign. Tens of thousands of Russian officials of different levels live the life of Saudi Princes and show it off in instagram with no fear. The largest amount of money in all world offshores are associated with Russians, they just pump oil, gas, peoples souls and lives out of the country and save all abroad.
Holy hell its not the only misrepresentation in this video. Wow.
Pretty incredible that despite being an incredibly politically charged video every single comment is just about sponsorships hmmmmmm... 🤔
A video with controversial opinions on a charged topic, yet the comments are mostly devoid of any controversial discussion (read: giant argumentative comment chains) about it? That just doesn't happen, which leaves me with the conclusion that most opinions going against the video are just being deleted.
@@ska042 Yes - order the comments by Newest first and you’ll see the incoming comments that haven’t been deleted yet.
@@Pbairsoftman it hasn't aged at all, what the fuck are you talking about
yeah like, the soviets did narrative astroturfing around fascism like no one else. this is the continuation of that brazen attitude with some sides swapped, if moscow is fash today like they have been for centuries why wouldn't they plant the narrative ooh but ukraine are the real fascists! when mislabeling them as fascists if dissenting and russian if docile was stalins thing.
extremely sus
i would love to see a boyboy video on how the cold war affected countries in the global south. i think most people in the west only know about the vietnam war, but not many knows about the effects of the cold war in other south east asian countries and south america
and how america would manipulate basicaly a whole continent and still kindof does to this day
Yes, this! Indonesia is right to your north, a video on that history (thinking of the book The Jakarta Method) would be super interesting and I'd trust y'all could do it justice.
Or in Africa, for that matter. There were multiple Marxist-Leninist regimes on the continent that literally never get talked about in mainstream historical discussion I feel like
mostly dictatorships and concentration camps my mother almost got desapeared she was 8
@@obsessivefanboy We only learned about Angola in this context iirc
Least conspicuous Russian propaganda
This is a prime example where anti US Colonialism legitimizes Russian Colonialism. Just because the opposition is corrupt will not make Russias federation any better.
ruclips.net/video/m0p9-kjKdfY/видео.html he (Alexa) is lying through his teeth
yes, in fact he doesn't say that in the video, in fact he expresses anti-Russian points in the video, most of the time it's anti-Russian (or whoever else) colonialism that legitimises American colonialism to all the propagandised westerners, not the other way around as you suggest, that's the whole point of this video
@@tmmaster6904he still lied to make russia seem more legit: you notice how at 1:05 there is a cut in the middle of what biden said? He literally cut out the part of the sentence where biden clarified that he doesnt think the military will get involved and then aleksa acted like biden knew all along that the war was going to happen.
@@tmmaster6904 ruclips.net/video/m0p9-kjKdfY/видео.html
I get that criticising the US where most people don’t from a western point of view is a narrative which is not talked about enough. And of course there is a plan behind any foreign action the US commits to. But that doesn’t justify to pick out what you need to present a point of view which is questionable and one-sided at best.
Why is it picking points when he talks about important factors which resulted in this Conflict?
Ah yes. Cherry picking for pro-American politics is the objective truth, but presenting evidence to the contrary is a dangerous narrative that shouldn't be discussed. But yes, America are the good guys here. You know there's western academics who have shown unequivocally that the CIA was involved in the events in Kiev that first empowered the Nazis and azov battalion there?
Oh you didn't? Couldn't be because you see the world through an incredibly narrow worldview that literally only sees America as saints where the most horrific actions are handwaived away is it?
@@nekelsmusic2132not picking points, picking details while omitting major ones like the us rolling back on the "agreement" to not expand nato as an error only a few seconds later in that very same meeting
It's not one sided, and that's exactly the problem. The video highlights that the situation is more nuanced than simply "Putin bad". The issue is that it places equal blame on both Russia and Nato, while in reality, Russia is much more responsible. The video is in no way 'Pro-Russian', but it is unfairly neutral
13:00 Divisions of the Wagner Group have fascist symbols as their markings, so that satement is false. The head of Wagner also openly has an SS tattooed on his skin.
Where ? Evegeny prigozin has? Show some proofs pls only accusations
@@noone7692 I got confused, it's not prigozin, it's the founder of Wagner, Dmitry Utkin.
@@noone7692 his SS tattoo is on his shoulders, near his neck.
@@죽은_시민의_사회 i have seen 3 hrs interview of him with an interview with war gonzo and i didnt see
Any tattoos on neck nor anyone with credibility claiming he is a nazi
When you realize both sides are using Neo-Nazis for their interests, its just that one invaded the other and annexed territories.
Is this a challenge video on how much misinformation and dishonesty you can pack into 18.5 minutes of content?
Where was the misinformation and dishonesty?
@@dwl3006 there is. While the main point isn't wrong - the war was predictable, Ukraine was torn between the West and Russia etc. The details were off in places
@@dwl30061 example is the fact that the us walked back on the commitment to not expand nato literally later in the same meeting because it strayed from policy. The mere fact that wasn’t mentioned is dishonest, another quick note is the oligarchy formed because of of an upcoming coup by the former kgb, the video frames it as a proactive measure to turn russia into a subservient petro state rather than a reactive measure to make a power grab more difficult.
I don't know what's funnier: watching a bunch of your videos with the absurd, mocking ad reads and then finding out you outright told everyone not to buy the shit in the first place, or seeing that in spite of all the violence etc. this video still didn't get demonetized, yay hahha
Great job as always boys
this video is bullshit misinformation. NATO never promised not to expand "east". that was a reference specifically to EAST GERMANY. propaganda, you've been deceived.
Classic revisionism. That the transition from the USSR to the Russian Republic sucked big time is historical fact. To blame it all on the US, say that most people wanted to remain in the USSR when the other countries declared independence UNILATERALLY, and blame the US for expanding NATO when it is done on a purely VOLUNTARY BASIS, is simply old style revisionism.
By saying this not only are you rewriting history to cast Russia in a favorable light, but you’re also denying the independence of all of those « buffer states ». If Ukraine wants to join NATO, who ought to stop them? If Lithuania wants to join NATO, who ought to stop them? If they independently decide to join an alliance of nations dedicated to DEFENSE, who ought to stop them? And why were they joining to begin with? Oh yeah that’s right, because of RUSSIA. Because one country has gotten back to threatening its neighbors, funding black flag operations in neighboring regions, and now invading an independent nation.
In 1936, the same rewriting of history that russian chills are doing now was done for a different man. It didn’t turn out well.
Was it OK for Cuba to have soviet missiles?
@shnad9880 why bring up something that happened 30 years prior to the fall of the USSR? Like what does this have to do with anything in the comment your replying to.
@@shnad9880 Considering it was response to Turkey having American missiles, yes. Anyway how is that relevant?
Bros a Russian asset
literally speaks against Putin and Russia in this video, if you bother to watch, just speaks against America more
@@tmmaster6904 He lied about many things in this video. A guy called Martae debunked many of his claims
@@tmmaster6904 He's justifying Russia's invasion of Ukraine, he's cutting up Biden's speech to make him look right.
@@tmmaster6904 that's how you legitimize propaganda.
@@bogdanlaiu8309 how does nobody in the world seem to realise that the west feeds its people propaganda too, the yanks all think they're somehow immune
Im sure people would absolutely love to see a follow up about this video
this video is a load of horse shit
@@tarotakras6409I guess if you’re inclined to the worldview of America bad then sure? Otherwise it’s a pretty terrible explanation.
@firebird4491 I've come to my own conclusions after studying several wars that America is bad, and on top of that they have a fuckton of influence through pop culture I also question heavily. So no, I'm not goosefed "America bad", I am from a country that's one of USAs biggest supporters, and due to that I've also had my own encounter with the American military visiting, on friendly terms... absolutely fucking up my day... so yeah fuck the USA... on my own terms
america bad is a correct take my guy. @@firebird4491
@@tarotakras6409 I doubt you've spent any time on understanding the war since this is one of the most ahistorical explanation
You should definitely do sponsorships! We need more videos, they’re absolutely amazing. This is definitely my favorite channel on youtube and more people need to see this channel.
YES!
Thanks for giving us the bravery to sell out!
@@Boy_Boy petscop 2
Any other similar yotube channel that you would recommend?
Trogdor you should check out Second Thought. It isn’t as comedic but it’s a good channel and they cover similar topics. And if you haven’t already you should watch contrapoints because she’s great.
I just wish he’d show the full clip of Biden
leaving out the countries' desire to join nato is misleading
This dude is just a Russian and Chinese asset
because that is not what the video is about. it's about Russia's point-of-view, not NATO's
@@swoqix2892 To overlook the fact that NATO membership is a threat of encroachment to Russia shows your willingness to cherry pick and lack of knowledge regarding the discussion at hand.
From Russia's POV, it was a choice of invade when they did, or concede ground to their arch nemesis' (NATO). Their decision wasn't so much of a choice as it was them having their hand pushed by the US. Inb4 "This dude is just a Russian and Chinese asset" again. The US would do nearly the exact same thing as Russia is doing now if they were put in the same position as Russia. It's a matter of national security for Russia.
You want proof the US would carry itself the same way? Maybe try looking into pretty much every conflict they have ever had with any country involving territorial disputes. The only difference is they usually fund proxy wars instead of fighting for their own interests. They would be sending in prisoners too if they knew they could get away with it.
There are plenty of reasons to criticize Russia. The aforementioned prisoners in Wagner PMC fighting for freedom, the autocratic government and violations of human rights, and plenty more; but their reason for entering the war is as valid as it gets. The US wants you to believe otherwise because they are the ones that pushed Russia into this corner by threatening them with further NATO encroachment.
@@swoqix2892 so literal fascist imperialist apologia? Kinda cringe video then.
@@zacharychristy8928 talking about imperialist apologia, how's the neonazi propaganda you're spreading going?
Why did you cut out important context from a lot of your clips? For example in 1:05, he literally said that he didnt expect a military reaction in the 2 seconds you cut out from the original clip.
good question
What difference does this makes?
@groovie444 because it fundamentally reframes the clip they used to make him seem like he knew a military reaction was comming. If you try to say "america knew all along" and then cut out the part where they say "but we dont really expect a military reaction" then thats just lying
@@watchletter at a time russia couldn't do 'military reaction'. He knows perfectly well that reaction is going to happen. And then they've did it again and again and here we are, staring into nuclear apocalypse approaching.
I very much dislike this political realism. Does Russia have a say in whether Ukraine gets to join the EU or NATO? Is it insignificant what these sovereign countries decide?
Russia invaded Georgia and everyone in the east saw the writing on the wall that Russia can't be trusted.
The point is that the Ukrainians did not have a say in their own political affairs. Yanukovich was overthrown by a US funded and coordinated revolution (look up Nuland-Pyatt phone convo). Zelensky campaigned on a Donbas peace platform, basically promising to sign the Minsk accords, yet then the US intervened and vetoed the signing. In fact there are indications that the US even actively supported and funded the Neo-Nazi battalions fighting in Donbas. Btw western sources report over 6000 ethnic Russian deaths in Donbas since 2014.
Even when Ukraine was actively deciding its own fate, zelensky was about to sign the Istanbul peace talks mediated by Erdogan. The west sent Boris Johnson to turkey to dissuade and prohibit the signing (you can look this up, multiple sources have confirmed this, even Erdogan himself). So my question is: Where is the self determination here?
@@TheUnkownIdentity You're wrong though, the US didn't have anything to do with Ukraines elections or who they elected. You bring up the phone call as if it proves it but the fact is, it doesn't. Yanukovech went against the voted majority to do deal with the EU, and went to approve Russias deal instead, and when protests about that happened, he allowed police to shoot and kill civilians, and stated that there would be no repercussions for doing it, even saying civilians who killed protesters weren't going to be punished either. He fled Ukraine into Russia, and during the interim period, the opposition was elected to run the country. This was obviously going to happen as that's what normally happens. The phone call you preach so much had absolutely no sway on anything and the people put in charge during the interim were elected out less than a year later anyway. What you've just preached is a literal conspiracy.
You bring up thr Minsk accords as if everybody wanted to follow it and the US stopped it, but that isn't true at all.
Nobody gave a shit about the Minsk accords and there were violations on both sides of it.
@@TheUnkownIdentity To say it as a US coordinated revolution would be a completely lie unless you somehow believe that the US could get 800,000 people coordinated and none of those 800,000 people would come and talk about their American handlers, a majority of the nation supported singing the EU deal. and as for the Minsk accord blaming it on ukraine or the US only would also be a lie russia broke cease fire multiple times (as did the ukranians) so trust was already lo, and No there is no indication the US actively supported and funded the neo nazis specifically, if i remember right the US even placed weapons restrictions against the azov battalion but only lifted them once russia got more aggressive. As for the Istanbul peace talks, what collapsed them was the bucha incident where russia killed a lot of ukranian civilians and the fact that the peace deal called for the disarmament and shrinking of the ukranian military something that would weaken them against any other potential russian invasion.
no they dont. neither does the US and Eu. unfortuantely its a imperialist power and imperialist powes fix the situation around them for benefit an profits
@@TheUnkownIdentity you are spreading bullshit, hope you'll have to answer sooner or later for your lies
Have you considered the fact that, the Eastern European countries that joined NATO did so willingly. Almost as if centuries under Russian oppression made them distrustful of their neighbor.
Found Lithuanian.
?? What are you talking about? The americans backed (so meddled) politicians that favoured the americans in these countries. Its the same in ukraine and georgia. Know your history please. They also tried it in belarus. But luhkashenko wasnt to be triffled with and got support from russia as russia and putin where at this point and time regaining control of the situation... cause well.. isnt it strange that ukraine wanted to join nato even though 1/4 of their country turned against them once they rolled out anti russian policies? Idk.. like crimea and the donbass etc. Do these people just fight back just beceause?
Have you listened to the video at all?
@@evobsm2328 I'm Latvian, I know the history of my country, only the Russians tried to meddle in our politics. Most latvians are very pro-NATO, anti-Russia. Stop reading Kremlin propaganda.
@@evobsm2328as if russia literally didnt do the same thing in the middle east and africa, supporting dictators and their regimes. you are so out of touch with reality bro i live in a post soviet satelite state and of course us is a total shithole conrtolling the world but at least i can say that freely and not end up in prison. this isnt some fucking game look how people live under russia funding dictators and how people live under us i choose this every election so shut the fuck up and go touch grass omg
How much did they pay you?
he's stupid enough to do this for free
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Then why did boy boy conviently cut Bodens clip to make it suit his narrative
@@testacals FSB bot
@@testacalsat aleksa pretty clearly cut multiple of his clips in such a way to lie about what was actually said in them: for example at 1:05 aleksa cut out the part *in the middle of the sentence* where biden said he didnt expect a military reaction, to make it seem like he said that he did infact expect one. This is one of the many blatant lies of this Video
You should take up writing fiction full time. You really have a knack for alternate history. Although as a Ukrainian I must say that I find this alternate history narrative to be a bit too unrealistic.
Ukrainian civilians are effected so much more than anyone else in this :(
They have gotten the shit end of the stick for far to long. 😔
Two evil empires fighting over their country :(
@@patrickkirby6580 one evil empire
Ukraine isn't an evil empire
@@gorbachevspizzahut American
Fucking hell, the "I don't mean military" cutout is actually there. I had to go here and double check.
That is so blatantly disingenuous I can barely believe it.
I would never buy anything you guys promoted, but you would need to watch out for the sponsors influencing or restricting your content, and you'd probably end up on an advertising blacklist if all your sponsors see no purchases through your channel. Worth a try I reckon.
Yeah that's a good point! We wouldn't take on any sponsors if they wanted to change our videos
@@Boy_Boy petscop 2
get the money while the getting is good
The quote of the vote is a gross miss reprasentation. It wasn't a vote to keep the Soviet union. It was a cote to create equal states (decentralization) in some places even to create republics (wording was different in some places). It was stopped by of the cabinet because the viewed it as a loss of power. They wanted to maintain power. But the PEOPLE of Moskau stopped the Coup by standing on and in front of the vehicles carrying the soldiers who were supposed to enforce the coup.
Holy shit this video just keeps getting the same comments over and over, its pretty funny and weird. "hey great sponsorship idea bro" or "wtf this is Russian propaganda"
Has to be botted or something. Weirdest comment section I've ever seen. Also a video with 500K views and 8K comments? Wtf.
Yeah it's extremely suspicious that nearly every comment is talking about the ads/sponsorship versus the boatloads of content which is packed into this video.
Maybe all the "nato bad" comments get removed
Because it actually is a strict russian propaganda. I don’t know where he did his research, but is is everything that Russia wants you to hear. A ton of information that he stated is out of context, a lot of important information and details are missing, and there are some straight up lies through the video.
I didn’t expect it from Alexa, as I really enjoy what he is doing. But if he made a video about war, that is a really serious topic, and he straight up did it by a Russian book. What a dumbass.
@@Vajrapani108 no they don't, they get debunked by Ukrainians and other Eastern Europeans who actually have experience with Russian imperialism and chose NATO. Hopefully one day Indians will get enough empathy to realise it's still imperialism when it's not happening to them.
super "there are two sides" when it isn't. Russia attatcked for no real reason. Sovereign states are allowed to chose their own military alliances
righties when there's nuance
@@tmmaster6904 that's all you've got to say?
@@hjalmarcraite6512 what do you want me to say, he blatantly denied any US involvement and just flat out said there's only one side, those aren't arguments, they're on the intellectual level of holocaust denial, I can only be expected to take so much nonsense seriously
@tmmaster6904the guy litterally pointed out a country decides foe themself, and your answer is "nuh huh, since i don't like it"
Both patreon and sponsorships are great ideas, it’s very hard to not take part in consumerism and whilst it should be criticised you shouldn’t burden yourself too much with the thought as an individual. Getting paid for this work should be a no-brainer even in the creative field. I’d say what sponsorhips allow in the context of this channel far exceeds the negative side of them.
that's a very open-minded take on the predicament, thanks for the support!
@@Boy_Boy petscop 2
Patreon is also honestly not a terrible model at all, because people are watching your content for free anyhow, and feel good about giving back. It's a reciprocal rather than predatory relationship. Though it would be better to use some kind of service that doesn't take a massive stinking bite out of it. Has anyone open-sourced that yet?
@@Boy_Boy let me throw money at you, little bitches (Alex please don't punch me)
@@tinmanakapetscop2guy85 hahaha
You get a lot wrong.
1) In the phone call Nuland suggests keeping Klitschko out of government, while letting Yatsenyuk in, to make sure Tyahnybok, the ultranationalist, isn't the sole face of the street movement -- but her proposed reconciliation deal was REJECTED by Ukrainians who weren't ready to accede to Yanukovich and so the street movement continued on.
2) Yanukovich fled because he ordered protestors shot and his guard defected. There was no far-right violent charge into his office to try to unseat him or whatever else you're trying to imply.
3) The eastern regions of Ukraine are not "Russian regions". Every region of Ukraine is majority ethnic Ukrainian and language is not national identity (just ask Ireland). Even the supposed division between Ukrainian speakers and Russian speakers is almost completely overblown. Many people in Ukraine are bilingual and the political class for pretty much the entire last 30 years has been native Russian speakers. Zelenskyy is a native Russian speaker. The eastern battalions are mostly majority native Russian speakers. Some of the greatest Ukrainian patriots are native Russian speakers. Supposed suppression of Russian speakers is nonsense. The language law passed was quite milquetoast and aimed at preserving the Ukrainian language, and other EU official languages, and contained mainly just things like if a radio broadcast was in Russian it must also have a sister broadcast in Ukrainian. This is quite on par with language laws in, say, some EU countries or in Quebec.
4) Biletskiy hasn't led Azov since 2015. Azov is nothing like a "neo-Nazi militia" today. The questionable iconography has to some degree been left but that doesn't represent the ideology. (Azov is almost entirely native Russian speakers, by the way.) The far-right has never had even 10% of the national parliament and since 2014 hasn't even had 2 PERCENT of the national parliament -- better than Germany, France, or Italy. (EDIT: You eventually mention the election results.)
On point number 2 literally the day before he defected there were militia batallions of the right wing saying that if he doesnt defect by the next day then they will start shooting. This is on top of the snipers being said by people who were there to becoming from the Maidan occupied buildings and not the police
for 3 whatever the case for the language situation was clearly the Russian speakers in the East were feeling suppressed. You kinda suggest that people go into open rebellion just for fun.
for 4 look at literally any Azov video and you will see people with swastikas or any other kind of neo-nazi symbolism. They were made to keep it slightly hidden when the war started but still you don't have to look far to see it. Maybe you don't think they are neo-nazis but the Jewish people don't seem to agree with you
Agree.
3) Some Russian western regions include a large part of native Ukrainians, for example, the cities of Belgorod and Krasnodar.
4) Neo-nazi Bullshit cames from russian propaganda. Every Ukrainians okay with any nation or race, unless it touch russia. And this like was far far before russia invassion, soviet unions, and even russian empire. Because every life in Ukraine have at least one lost relatives because of russia or however it called.
>Azov is nothing like a "neo-Nazi militia" today
HHAHAHAHAHHAHHA
i hope they're paying you for this nonsense
@hehmda Cool story, bro. Do you have any evidence of super spooky Azov rapaciously doing hate crimes, or really anything wrong to anyone since 2015? Or are you just soying out at random images you saw and decided to pick apart with a toothpick?
this video has so much misinformation, no wonder comments are being deleted
So much in fact that you can't point out a single one.
@@Bakardi47
I just have to highjack this guys comment on whats wrong with this video.
Danil : Because this video is so blatantly stupid that its even hard to try and talk about those incorrectness and mistakes.
2:34. It's just so stupid oversimplification.... So he tells that (because of USA) Boris dissolved USSR despite 77% voted to preserve the USSR. The problem is that at that time, USSR was already in the process of decay. Baltic states already were independent and others were in the process of separating. Why then he doesn't talk about referendums for independence in those countries? Overwhelming majority voted for independence in those countries. Dissolution of USSR is too complex topic to simply say "oh yeah there was one guy who was friends with US so he destroyed Soviet Union to then sell it to the West". The process was not done overnight, it took several years and it had tons of different reasons and aspects to it.
8:16 no. It is not "split between Russians in the East and Ukrainians in the west". It is just not true. And cherry picking map of one presidential election to prove this point is just stupid.
8:24 Ukraine was never "The poorest country in Europe". It is just not true. I assume he talks about GDP per capita, in which case this almost correct, but the lowest GDP per capita was varying between Moldova and Ukraine and was on the same level as other post-soviet countries . And there are many other aspects to measure how poor the country is. His statement was again oversimplified and narrow minded.
8:37 2004 revolution was not about kicking Yanukovych out of power. It was because of unfair election. In result elections were repeated
8:43 He was not kicked out. On the second time, Yanukovych won elections in 2010.
8:53 it was not about kicking Yanukovych initially, but protesting about his rejection to sign association with EU. Which he HIMSELF promised to do. Yes, "pro-russian president" was actually for joining EU. But he sold this strategy because of russian pressure and for promise of some cheap gas.
9:19 No its not. Ukraine was not independent in that time. 9:33 and this comment is just fucking disgusting. Really? That was Ukrainians who killed Jews? Its nice to drop the fact that 9mil Ukrainians were killed by Nazis. And that 6mil of Ukrainians fought in Soviet army. Yeah he just promotes stupid Russian propaganda about how only RUSSIANS fought nazis, and all others just always collaborated with them, but nor Russians (cogh... cogh... 400k Russians in Nazi army cogh... cough...)
9:45 no. There were not a lot of them
9:59 No. Everyone fought then. Just look up list of killed protestors. And learn stories how they were killed. For some reason, they were not some insurgent Neo-nazi fighters
10:28 yeah saying that this guy eclipsed other leaders of protest is stupid. Because it is just not true. I think if you ask average Ukrainian about him, many won't even recognize his name
11:30 but he got into the government.
11:41 Paruby is neo-nazi!? I chuckled here. Interesting, he knows that he is a neo-nazi? Anyway. Idk who that Makhnitsky is, but even if he is (according to author) is a neo-nazi, he was in charge for half a year, and he was replaced by guy from some liberal party. As well as the third guy. He also was in that position not so long. Less than a year, and also was replaced by the guy from a liberal party. Really there were no Nazis in that government lol. Just look at the results of parliamentary elections. There were mostly liberal and centrist parties. Nationalist parties got almost no seats.
11:45 how can you get rid of Russian as an official language, if it was not an official language?
12:10 no, its not "oh Putin just used as opportunity". No. It was planned long ago. That neo-nazi tales and hysteria was promoted by Russian propaganda almost since the first days of the Maidan. And those tales about "nazis got to power" too.
12:15 Don't remember any case in modern history when America casually annexed some lands making 51st state.
13:04 if it even was really neo-nazi, being integrated into Ukraine military means the regiment takes orders from the military command and the Ministry of Defense, as well as ban on any ideology. It is against of the rules to be part of any political party if you are in the military and publicly declare support for any party. It is true that in 2014 some oligarchs got their own small armies, but all of those were either disbanded or integrated in the army. (again - integrated means full control by the military command as any other unit) And you really don't have any other choice if the regular army was practically non existent.
13:37 yeah, but because hysteria about nazis, which was spread from mainly Russian media, those regiments didn't get training
14:28 far right got smashed on previous elections too, as I wrote before
14:46 that's just funny. "far right battalions who refused ceasefire".... yeah... some veterans who protested against withdrawal of troops. Were not far-right. And there were not a battalion of them... They went there with their legally owned guns and claimed that they were to stay there and are against withdrawal. Got out there pretty much the next day. The leader of nationalist party ranted about that how soon 10 000 veterans will protest against Zelensky, instead of those 10 veterans, but nothing happened. And the only conclusion of that incident was a creation of a giant meme of "I'm not a loser" quoting Zelensky inappropriate attitude
@@myboysd5772 very interesting how no one in 4 months has even bothered to respond to your comment. Almost as if everything you said is basically reality and this video is a tankie circle jerk. The amount of people that mix up anti west sentiment with leftism is astounding. It's mostly westerners too, they seriously have zero idea about any of the politics happening in Europe at all. Framing Ukraine as the open neo Nazi country when Russia has literally ethnically genocided Georgians and Ukrainians and did zachistkas in the Chechen war is a WOW that's fucked up kind of opinion. Fuck this channel. Thank you for your comment, genuinely the only bright minded individual in this comment section probably.
@@myboysd5772 classic nazi cope
@@Ouiper Russia is a fascist empire and they always like to do what you`re doing now; accusing others for what they are. Russia has exactly 0 moral problems with naziz, they actively pay them to do their dirty work, you know Wagner groups leader and his nazi SS neck tattoos? These are the kind of people Russia likes to work with, if you dont like FACTS then do something about it instead of bitching in RUclips comment section. Stop projecting, please. Its embarrasing.
I'm gonna need some sauce on that description section. The comment section makes me doubtful about what you're saying, even if they don't show their source either
This video is extremly biased, especially the Azov part
I could spam you with sources but I gotta to learn
@@bosanski_Cevap what? the Azov Battallion is indeed a nazi organization and they are indeed part of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, lol
Putin almost giving himself 'scope-eye' @ 6:40 is classic. :)
with all due respect, it wasn't even close.
NATO expansion, is eastern countries choosing freely to join nato. There were elections and people mainly chose to join nato to protect themselves from Russia.
13:03 Russia has also nationalistic formations, like „Rusich” or „Kolovrat”
Did you even listen to what he was saying? Every country has those formations, but only one has them in their military
@@a55man a lot of far right formations are being officially integrated into the Russian army, they announced the integration of seperatist forces months ago
@@zebra1327 Can you please link me the source of that info or just say where can I find that? All I could find is that they cooperated with the PMC and not the government. Also separatist doesn't mean nationalist.
@@a55man You can use google, quit being a lazy dense idiot. Also, while you're at it, look up "Sparta Batallion"
Yes, Russians have them, but they don't hate Ukrainians because they are "untermench"
Hey why did you cut out the middle of the Biden quote where he says "I don't mean military"? Seems to be pretty a pretty important part of the quote to me, no?
Russia didn't try to join NATO, it was entirely a political stunt.
The US did not "plunder" Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union, I don't even know where you got the slightest idea for that from. The corruption in Russia at that point came entirely from within, from men such as Putin himself.
Ukraine wasn't at all independent under the spicy Germans.
You seem to specifically call out the wars the US was taking part in like Russia didn't invade or start wars in Georgia (4 times) Moldova, Georgia (3 times), bomb countless Syrian's and invade Ukraine (twice now)
Saying that getting rid of Russian as an official language makes it sound like the Ukrainians didn't have their own language, and speaking Russian wasn't outlawed it was just for official business, Like how an African nation would change their official language back to what it was before being colonised.
You also seem to completely ignore a countries right to self determination, the history and context of Ukraine's long struggle for independence from Russia, overblow the entire scale of the Neo Nazi problem Ukraine had, acting as if Russia is practically innocent, and are pretty obviously cherrypicking information for your argument.
The US isn't the bad guy for giving the Ukrainian's weapons to fight for their own freedom against a nation that has been hellbent on wiping out their culture, taking their land and exploiting their culture, supporting actual freedom as opposed to a annexation of much of their land and having their right to self governance stripped from them.
To be fair, Australian's aren't very good at respecting the culture and wishes of a lands natural inhabitants.
I don't think I saw anyone hit all of the Russian talking points this accurately before.
oh like the famous russian talking point "putin has a small dick, he profited of ukrainian suffering before the war even began and he carries out political persecutions"?
@@joshualamberth8966 “ Hitler has a small dick… Now let’s talk about how allies started ww2!”
@@joshualamberth8966 "It must have been the US who would want to dissolve the USSR not the millions of people in oppressed satellite states by the Soviet yoke!"
@@saladdressing2781 they did try to dissolve it democratically, but the majority of the soviet union didnt want that to happen, so three guys decided to do it illegally.
also how the fuck is that a russian talking point putin fucking hates the ussr
YESS PLEASE TAKE SPONSORSHIPS it's just one giant joke on corporations and honestly i love that, your videos are next level and the prospect of you guys being able to get paid for making them is very exciting
Thanks for giving us the bravery to sell out!
@@Boy_Boy petscop 2
@@Boy_Boy anyone who talks shit about selling out isn't worth listening to, gotta pay for things somehow and if companies are willing to give ya money for a little ad in a video it's totally worth it. People that really care about channels don't mind that sponsors are a thing cause everyone has to survive somehow
us did sign an agreement to protect Ukraine for giving up their nukes. Is the precedent we want to set that if you get nukes never give them up? Otherwise your boarder aren’t secure. Seems to me it would be beneficial if the international community was able to fallow thru on this promise in particular.
Ukraine never had nukes - all the buttons were always in Moscow. Ukraine only had some nujes on its territory but no actual control, that's why they gave it away. I don't think any country would actually give their nuke out.
@@zacnieprawisz9171I understand what your saying, but if you have nukes in your territory and you do not officially act as a vassel state for those nukes. Sooner or later you have those nukes because you have the technology to reproduce them if nothing else which seems to be half the battle
You know who else signed that agreement to protect Ukraine? Russia, what an irony
you are talking about the budapest memorandum? They just agreed to not attack or interfere and not to defend.
@@zacnieprawisz9171eh look at that Saudi and Iran just started a proxy war in Israel over nukes, called it.
What a horrible oversimplification of history. Especially the part about the dissolution of the USSR and "NATO eastward expansion"...
And why are they wrong?
@@Tmplar Because those eastern countries WANTED to join NATO on their own accord. No one held a gun to their head and said they had to join
@@danielrussell5687 Yeah sure, but the member countries should have said: “I’m sorry but, given the current geopolitical state, it’s best if we don’t let you in. Maybe we could do some external pacts where we pledge to defend you in case of attack but putting our weapons in your country seems a little too much.”
@Geek Why is Putin "worried" about Ukraine joining NATO, but when Finland is literally a billion steps ahead of Ukraine in the NATO joining process Putin literally said "meh whatever"?
@Geek What territorial disputes? You mean the territories that Russia annexed, violating their part of the Budapest Memorandum?
Calling the "claims" of genocide in this war equal to the actual one during the yugoslav wars is probably the craziest thing said by someone who actually fled because of said wars.
I think while your video brilliantly points out how unnecessary this war is and how this should have never happened, it also in some parts is a bit sensational and simplistic, as @Obimike already pointed out. I'd like to add to that because in my opinion your video fails to acknowledge the reason why many Eastern European states joined NATO.
The Russian Federation is not as powerful as its predecessor, the USSR. From Russia's point of view, the collapse of the USSR and the Warsaw pact hast robbed them of their past glory. This revisionist historical understanding paired with their great military force - that never misses out on an opportunity to engage in some saber-rattling along the Russian border - threatens the independence and integrity of countries like Poland, Baltic States and now Ukraine. In a way, Russia pushed its neighboring countries into the arms of NATO with their quest to regain dominance in the region. No matter how the Eastern European countries have been connected to Russia in the past. Their independence is now indisputable, and they have the right to choose their alliances freely and if this alliance is NATO, then so be it.
I don't want to say that NATO and this West in general made no political mistakes in the past. Of course, their actions have played a huge role in creating this mess, and I don't want to play this down. But hey, who could have thought that humiliating and degrading the biggest country in the world with access to thousands of nuclear weapons, a more and more dictatorial structure and a huge wish to regain their former power and glory could lead to such a situation...
They're surrounded by NATO bases, for Russia this is a matter of survival. Doesn't take long looking into the history of NATO and the fact all top positions were manned by previous nazi officers to see what their view of imperialist expansion is. Even now that Russia isn't communist there's enough positive sentiment about the ussr to keep NATO on mission. This video leaves out that Russia annexed a country that democratically voted in favour of it.
@@TalynStormcrow so can you tell me which imperialistic expansions NATO has done?
@@TalynStormcrow Survival? Maybe stop threatening and invading your neighbors and then they won't feel like protecting themselves by aligning with the opposition. Were neighboring states going to invade Russia and massacre thousands and displace millions? Unless that was a 100% certainty, then Russia doing that very thing to Ukraine are not justified.
@@hueban1643 Libya comes to mind also didya forget the worst imperialist of all time - the US is part of NATO?
@@ambatuBUHSURK lybia was approved by the un security council which at the time both russia and china were veto able permanent members who claim to be opposing us imperialism but did nothing in this case when they could have. Also calling the us "the worst imperialist in history" is pretty uninformed on what that history contains
A face that's never turned to ask the opinion of people who actually live in the country he's confidently spouting lies about
Hey I came here after watching the Pine Gap video which I really liked and I can’t help but feel disappointed after watching this one. As an American there are things I deeply disagree with about my country, and one of those is the way it arrogantly and ruthlessly meddles in other countries for its own interests. The way it treats Australia and the “special relationship” is particularly egregious in many ways, and of course now we are suffering our own consequences for enabling Murdoch and his cronies. The anti-democratic things we have done in the sake of our foreign policy are shameful.
But that’s what makes it so disappointing to see you criticize America for doing it in your country, but then turn around and criticize America for failing to be ruthless when it comes to the former USSR countries. Because you are correct, this was an avoidable war. 25 years ago when the ruthless bi-partisan consensus was still in full effect in America many politicians, including Biden, expressed the opinion that to expand NATO could be perceived by Russia as a threat. However, what if those states *want* to be part of NATO. Should we simply say no, should we condemn them to be a part of the Russian Kleptocracy when they are asking for the hand of friendship to help them scape it? The America that does that is no better than the America that finds a way to rid Australia of a troublesome PM.
Again, Putin did have to invade Ukraine that is true. But it’s crazy to me to see you swallow and regurgitate Putin’s lies about why he had to invade it. You really believe that proximity of NATO troops and missiles is a threat to Russia? In a world with ICBMs? You believe that Putin believes that NATO will one day decide to invade Russia? No, the reason it’s an existential threat is because the existence of a freer, Russian speaking liberal democracy on the border of Putin’s Kleptocracy, containing holy sites of the Orthodox Church, would lead to the death of Putin’s regime. If you believe that is a reason to deny Ukraine its right of self-determination to try to be a freer and more liberal country than how am I supposed to take you seriously when you complain of America suppressing Australia’s democracy?
As an American I want my country to do better. I want to stand up to Israel and Russia, and support those in the world who need help especially those who are trying to stand up for freedom and democracy. I recognize that America had a hand in the state of Russia today. I don’t think you are some amoral tankie monster, I believe you see injustice and suffering in the world and want it to stop and are trying to assign the blame where you think is right. But if you are not going to give America any credit when it does try to be better, how can I feel that your other criticisms of us are fair?
Well put. I also started watching multiple videos after the Pine Gap one. But here's it from a Europeans perspective (Not Ukrainan).
The video itself regurgitates a row of statements usually used by Pro-Russian (Russian) sources and does this from a Russian perspective towards Ukraine and the US, ignoring all other perspectives and important factors. But what is also important, is that someone from Australia is giving a lecture about Eastern Europe. I mean it's not entirely unreasonable, but then you'd have to be very well educated. This video here is absolutely horrid.
(Retrospective comment, I got tired of listing the errors so I stopped at 5)
1. The "Promise to not expand east", was not a promise and was even stated by Gorbachev that no such promise was made. The writing displayed in the video is regarding German reunification. It's out of context.
2. The wording of Bidens speech which was cut also explained that essentially expansion can happen over time, not immediately. But all of this context was cut out? Wtf?
3. The wording of Nukes 400km away from the capital? There is no place in Eastern europe within NATO which could even do that. If it really was something the US (or any nuclear power with submarines) wants to do, they could just place the submarine in the gulf of finland and achieve the same result. No "Expansion" needed.
4. The whole "Buffer" wording for Eastern Europe essentially means no Eastern Europeans can decide what they want? After years of oppression, deportations, forced language etc. Eastern Europe should behave as a buffer with no safety because Russia. A Nuclear power. Wants safety?
5. Yanukovich, the president who lost power in 2014. Like holy fuck "Something weird happened"? The president literally declined a Pro-European stance to pursue a Pro-Russian stance. After this had been agreed upon by the parliament and the people. So if a president steamrolls the people - it's just summarized as "Something weird" and again it turns into some neonazi speech? Wtf?
There's just so many errors where the Pro-Russian stance is taken and everything else is ignored. It's not even mentioned that Russia also sent its own units to fight on the side of the "separatists".
There's so many errors; simplifications from a Russian stance; cut pieces from speeches and articles - That this just looks like a propaganda video, it's sickening.
shame only eleven likes - well said
That's odd that top comments focus on sponsorship.
That's very odd yes, I see only comment about those adds plus they gets thousands of likes.
Yeah it’s kinda annoying nobody talks about what happened
political comments probably getting censored by YT
They're probably botting.
Probably z bots
Wow you just went full tankie
at what point?
@@OfficialIfunny Read some more comments and you will find out.
the whole video is such oversimplification it lost all resemblance with reality
Leftists like this will always argue that an aggressor like russia is the eternal victim, because they will support any government that opposes the west (even one like russia's, which clearly isn't in line with their beliefs at all). Unfortunate this video got so many upvotes, although they are most likely all from leftists/communists
Wtf are these comments, Redditors are brigading full strength here
This video is twitter brain.
Incorrect, Twitter libs love supporting the Nazi-NATO imperialist attack on Russia
too much cherry picking i mean every media does that but in this one its really hitting hard
Ukraine was not independent under Nazi Occupation and to say otherwise is a outright lie.
I didnt know u still worked with russia today like in the past
Found the white supremacist.
@@jamesrowlands8971 where?
@@Lislio it's you.
@@jamesrowlands8971 lil bro u dont know what that word even means, come back when u finished middle school
this is so misleading wtf
Gorbachev himself said there was no promise made to not expand NATO. Stop spreading misinformation.
Yes and the Israel Hamas war was also avoidable if Iran hadn’t given Palestinians weapons👀
And the war before that would be avoided if israel wasnt forced on palestinian lands
@@DasArtyom you mean if jews werent allowed to purchase land from palestinians causing a palestinian uprising against the jews resulting in the rest?
@@DasArtyomyes but we’re ignoring old context for Ukraine and only blaming the ppl that gave them weapons here so just staying consistent
@@DasArtyom the jews were there before them the muslims only got there after the islamic crusades
I enjoy your content, but in this case i should argue that you are not quite right.
Reasons of this conflict goes far further then end of Soviet Union and early 2000s. Basically Ukraine was occupied and oppressed by russia for a long period of time. The pro-russian part even was there just because it was artificially created by soviet government by deportations, artificial hungers, and oppression of Ukrainian language (this one goes even further, to the russian empire).
And the part about neo-nazis. Yes they are here, sure, as you said yourself, like in any other country. But they are a very very small percent of population, like everywhere else. Everyone who you mentioned got in government were there for less than a year, and were replaced by democratically elected government. And all neo-nazi parties who participated in elections got 1 seat in government total.
About war in the East of Ukraine. It was never a civil war. There were russian army there all the time. And Ukraine held its part of agreement and war was de-escalating, but russia was making constant provocations.
And just look at russia history under putin. He became president by waging a war and continued doing this ever since.
I understand that war here is beneficial for USA, sure. But they are not the reason, and neither are neo-nazis. Only putin and his bloody regime. And i am grateful to Ukrainian army and everyone who is helping them, because otherwise i would probably be shot by some russian soldier now just for being Ukrainian, speaking my language and living in my country that doesn't want to be a part of russia.
To anyone who read this all. Thank you for your time.
PS. Adam Something did a better take on this situation, please go see his video for a better understanding of this situation. No offense to boys, but they repeated russian propaganda in a lot of ways.
Thanks for taking the time to clarify what is actually happening to our neighbours. This video justifying Putin's war is an atrocity 🤮
Adam Something will be the last person I'll ask for an opinion regarding politics.
...yeah. One guy with ukranian nickname says that "if you say something against majority opinion - you are brainwashed by russian propaganda"
Охотно, блин, верю!
@@annilator3000 well, i only found his channel recently and don't know why you find him so untrustworthy, but his videos about Ukraine are the most objective ones i saw in English speaking part of RUclips and definitely more close to truth than this one.
They also didn't put Russia in a positive way. but the video focused more on the parts of the conflict that are Not talked about in the west where it's more biased against Putin so everyone is aware of their side of the bullshit.
Also, when you say at 9:32 that Ukraine's were so happy for their independence, Did you mean Independence or liberated? I know a lot of Ukraine celebrated them as their liberator's but I didn't think they got independence.
Well some Ukrainians believed that Germany would let them be independent.
and changed their mind after the Germans started shooting entire villages
After the war would end, the conquered territories were supposed to be semi-independent. Still German puppets, but technically not a part of another country. So the people who welcomed the Germans considered it to be actual liberation, while the general public was just tired of constant bullshit. I do agree that their wording isn't the best, because it expands the views of the radicals on the rest of the country, but still, they aren't exactly wrong either.
Every statement in this video is misleading to a certain point.
Historically, Ukraine was fighting for independence for centuries. So, when WW2 started, some troops thought they could create an alliance with Hitler to go against Stalin. With time, they realized they were wrong and broke it off. But they did fight alongside, also committing war crimes locally.
The same happened 8n Russia, by the way. Several regiments joined Hitler forces and fought alongside Hitler til the end of war.
So no, Ukraine did not get liberation as a result of it.
It did not have a separate government.
And also, ukrainians did not commit massive war crimes as was implied. The majority fought alongside soviet union, as the country was torn apart by germans.
16 millions killed by germans were mostly belorussians and ukrainians specifically, also something completely twisted in this video.
It's like a research was not just badly done, but there was an intent to twist everything to the core
@@薔薇-k2m how can you say they are not completely wrong, and at the same time they are expanding the views of a few troops to the whole country? Is that not completely wrong? Watch the video again, it sounds like there was some separate ukrainian government that was massively nazi and also committing massive war crimes, which makes 0 sense.
Simping for Putin has to be a new low 😂😂😂
He dunks on Putin in this very video...
this is just tankies whole ideology, basically america bad, that's it
Trying to understand a simple video like this with the small brain you have, will be a life high for you.
Well, damn
1.Borin Yeltsin wasn't elected because the USA said so, he was extremly popular in russia, winning the 1991 and 1996 elections, and succeding in the april 1993 referendum after 59% op people said they had confidence in Yeltsin and 54% supported his economc and social policy.
2. 77% of sovients didn't want to preserve the USSR, what the referendum sid is that if the people wanted equal rights for every nation inside the USSR.
3. To be fair, the russian economy was trash in the 90's, but comparing it to the USSR is foolish. The Germans invadedd the USSR, they had more land and resources than russia after the col·lapse of the union, after the USSR Russia had lost over 1/4 of the population and the many resources in it's borders (central asian gas, Ukranian wheet...).
4. My brother in christ, safety buffers aren't relevant when your nation has a nuclear deterrent, what, want to go back to the napoleonic era? Go siege a star fortres?
5. That deal for NATO expanssion wasn't binding, they never signed anything, also, that was 1989 and refering to a united Germany being able to join NATO. Hell, the Poles tried everything to join the alliance, they got Yeltsin drunk and made him sign an agreement that said that he was cool with poland joining NATO, when that didn't work they threatened with developing nukes, and when that also didn't work, they thretened the democrats, as there was a huge polish diaspora in swing states and Clinton didn't want to lose those votes
6. Ukraine was splin beetween rusians in the East and Ukranians in the west because after the Holodomor Stalin sent rusians to the depopulated areas.
7. Sayng that neo-nazis were a major forçe in the 2014 revolution is laughable, in the subsequent elections the far-right parties got a total of 6.52, between both major far-right parties, and not a single seat in parliment.
8. Saying that Ukranians were "happy for their independence" when the germans invaded is absurd, way more ukranians fought with the soviets and you are failing to realize that the Nazis thought that ukranians were "subhuman". They didn't gain independence. (exept if you consider military occuparion independence, because watching this video makes me think you are pretty damn pro-russia).
9. That phone call argument is terrible. That would be like Ursula von de Leyen saying "well, If labour wins the 2024 UK elections we would have a better relationship between the EU and the UK". That doesn't mean that the EU is funding the labour party.
10. The neo-nazis with government places were only in for the interrim government, they were swiftly kicked out after the elections.
11. The fact that Ukraine got rid of the russian language's PRIVILIGED STATUS, not oficiality, doesn't mean they are atacking russia. Ukrainian was banned and opressed for the past ouple hundred years, promoting the national langage against the language of some other country that used to opress you isn't agressive aggainst that same country and not a justification for an invasion.
12. The azov battalion was far-right, it is now integrated in the ukranian armed forçes. Every nations military has some extremists, there are extremists in the Ukranian military as much as any other.
13. The USA refousng to negotiate is not a argument against them. Putin has no right to tell Ukrain what tey can or cannot do. If they want to join NATo it's their right. Perhaps if the nation right next to them wasn't funding seperatists and invading one on the most strategic paninsulas in the country they wouldn't feel the need to be protected.
14. Of course the USA doesn't want to send men to Ukraine, that would be extremly unpopular in their own country. That doesn't mean russia is justified in invading the country.
Theis video has a very pro-russian tone, to say the least. Ukraine has a right to self-determiation, if they want to join NATO and/or the EU that isn't russias buissnes. The invaion of ukrain is unjustifiable and your "muh, america bad" arguments are shallow, to say the least.
Great comment❤
@@janjelinek9277 Thanks.
im very impressed with how you were able to explain it so eloquently!
Weird how closely the content emphasis and narrative focus of this video closely mirrors Russian state disinformation.
A few comments below on what areas make this video quite inaccurate. But a good try and a good lesson in what not to do if acting as a journalist/social commentator;
These talking points are framed very effectively by Russian state media (like RT etc) to try to bring sympathy or at least confusion to a foreign audience. This is a good case study in the Russian disinformation cycle. Their messaging is very effective. Calling eastern Ukraine "Russian supporting and speaking" is misleading. Emphasis on "far right" Ukrainian Paramilitary, whilst ignoring the global activities of Russian paramilitary, is inherently biased.
Dismissing Annexation of crimea in 2seconds of the video, ignoring Russia's constant incursions (including illegal operations in Ukraine and Georgia) show a lack of understanding and missing information.
Recommend checking out the Budapest Memorandum and the other US involvement/influence in Ukraine in the early 1990s that really set the pieces in motion. Much more context missing that makes this content misleading and easily reframed to fit a pro-Russian narrative.
Completely agree
Wow, this is one of the most dishonest and blatantly false videos on the war I have watched. Congrats on that.
Which parts? It seems pretty clear and well researched if anything it's a bit too summarized
@@ZaklnGritch there's a lot of misleading claims. For instance, at 3:42, there is NO reference to the 10 people he's talking about, none at all, the list of sources sucks
@@bucket6386 I couldn't find the specific 10 people he mentioned either but there are numerous people we can speculate it being such as Peter Munk, Martin Ebner, Timothy Barakett, Marc Rich and even George Soros. So it's not exactly wrong just vague.
You came here from Martae's video, maybe think for yourself for once
@@agrobabb4943 yes i watched his video and it was fact-based and logical and it makes sense and now i've changed my opinion on someone i once thought as a good, honest creator, isn't that critical thinking?