OH MY GOD I JUST REALIZED If flowey is a metaphor for disconnecting with fiction over time Then gaster is a metaphor for getting lost in fiction They are both mirrors of what a player can become
Gaster was tasked with freeing the monsters from the underground. So it only makes sense that he would create a world where they live freely on the surface.
just realized that the fact that "gaster" is specifically six characters may have been intentional considering his stats and the fun value of mystery man
Oh my god wait. Castle town is essentially just Disney world. Of *course* other darkners can’t exist in other dark worlds (like how Ariel can’t really exist in the Star Wars universe) but they *can* exist in *only* in Castle Town (Disney World), a place named after its founder (the player/Walt Disney) a place where everyone can exist harmoniously, *the happiest place on earth*. A place where you can meet your favorite characters, go on rides, eat their food, even *sleep* there, there’s even a *castle!* A place where you can forget all your everyday problems, *a place where dreams come true*.
@@TheSkyGuy77 that reminds me! one of the pieces of dialogue in Castle town (I think it’s from the same rudin that tells you that castle town is named after the player?) says that (if I remember correctly) “this place runs on dreams, so make sure they’re good ones!” Or something to that effect. That *on top of* the fact that castle town is named after the player, which in and of itself is interesting since Ralsei was the only one in castle town before we came along, so it would make perfect sense (along with his weird 4th wall knowledge) for him to name it after us, and since Disney is named after its founder, that’s gotta mean *we literally made castle town*. Which makes me wonder if this will be revealed at a later point? Idk, I’m starting to ramble 😅
I’m probably just thinking too much about this now, but isn’t it interesting how Gaster takes over Toby’s accounts. Gaster overtakes his creator. Darkness overtakes its creator. Fantasy and fiction become blurred.
8:48 Wait so does this mean that the Dark Worlds are trying to entice and lure people in so that they can’t get anything done in the Light World? IS EVERY DARKNER IN ON THIS!? IS LANCER SECRETLY EVIL? Nah I’m just kidding but it would be an interesting take. Great first episode by the way, can’t wait to see where it goes from here.
@@ChadRepson That is actually a really good point, I forgot about that dialogue where he “banishes” Kris and Susie from Castle Town until they finish their project.
16:15 heres the thing, we know gaster is important, but theres something i don’t think people thought of: which gaster is doing what in deltarune? we cant really know, but we dont know if every gaster is doomed to shatter, or just undertale? if its just undertale where is deltarune gaster? and also which gaster is doing what? is undertale gaster (or a piece of him) doing this or deltarune gaster (or if shattered a piece of him) is at the beginning (yes its not proved, no i dont care)
I think Gaster didn't create the worlds of Deltarune themselves. I think he created the device (program) that connects us to it. Why? Because he wants to change a linear narrative into one with multiple endings. One that wasn't originally written by him. In essence, Gaster is a fanfic writer. Or an alternate universe creator.
Tippiest toppiest tier deltarune theory video presentation, period!!!! The care you take with ordering, introducing, and explaining new information is world class. This video barely felt 40 minutes long; it remained relaxed and easy to follow, yet packed in a lot of important points. I love that you so clearly tie in lesser known facts that have actually have huge implications into the larger picture, and alongside supporting and more widely known info. On top of everything, just knowing first two topics of this series, the subjects of your videos are far from cookie cutter, yet you were able to bring up so many key pieces of lore detail. I don't believe the subject of darkness has been covered from the angle you've presented (or at least one this lengthy and thorough), and people don't seem to have too much to say or speculate on when it comes to sans' and papyrus' connections to gaster. Also, I don't know if anyone has said this, but I wouldn't listen to anyone who may say that you cater too heavily to people who barely know anything about the games, I can tell this series will be EXCELLENT for those people and it's Not a bad thing to assume your audience has almost no knowledge. Anyways, I'm so excited hearing that you plan to have more than several installments expected in order to say your full piece about deltarune from every angle/with every topic you deem distinct and significant. Best of luck with everything, this channel should blow up should you choose to continue! ^w^
Another sip of Deltarune theory to keep me alive during this drought of new lore until Chapter 3+4 Thank you blessed theorist, cannot get enough of these vids🙏
I like the idea of if sans has a connection to gaster The comment of " I know your type" can also serve to us as a reference to gaster himself and some characterization. Weather or not intentional it's fun to think about. Parallels will be made even if they are canonical or not
Here's one thing I think could be REALLY important about the parallels between Deltarune's prophecy and Undertale's intro: In Undertale's intro, the character who is intentionally depitced to look like you, is in fact NOT you (well, it's not the character you CONTROL throughout the game). If we are to take that as a parallel too, then perhaps Kris, Susie, and Ralsei are not the heroes of the prophecy after all. I mean, after all- Ralsei isn't REALLY a "prince" of anything, is he? You know who IS? Lancer, as dumb as it sounds. We also know of one other human form that looks SHOCKINGLY similar to Kris- the Goner vessel created at the start of the game. We ALSO know of another monster who is relevant to the prophecy of the Delta Rune, Noelle. Point is, Deltarune can have MULTIPLE depictions of the same prophecy and still have it be technically true. This is where I believe the "only one ending" of the game is going- the ability to depict the prophecy of deltarune in different ways under different circumstances.
dope video! I definitely think Gaster is gonna be an ACTUAL character in Deltarune. And not just some weird entity we oly hear about. idk about him being the final boss though, but it's not completely impossible.
I haven't watched the video yet, but i just want to say that i really really like the thumbnail. it caught my eyes immediately somehow will watch the video now!
love it, thanks for talking about your thoughts on deltarune! recapping all these mostly-agreed-upon themes and theories is super helpful, and hearing your insights gave me a new perspective i didn't have before.
Amazing Video. The Part where you compare Determination and Darkness was very interresting because that was the first time in have ever Seen Someone do it and the conclusion of the meaning of Darkness in Deltarune was really good. I am very excited for the following Parts.
hearing the opening to downwell idea when i clicked this video made me freak out. I HAVEN'T EVEN WATCHED THE REST OF THE VIDEO BUT I KNOW THIS WILL BE GOOD! or at least, it'll be an interesting watch... let's see what i think!
so i'm not the only one who's made the connection between Darkness in deltarune and the Void aspect in Homestuck, right? the game is so completely Voidbound
I love the use of Mother Cognitive Dissonance music!!! That OST deserves more respect than it gets. :)))) Also this video as a whole is incredible, you did a great job!
dude just found your channel witht his theory. and hearing my favorite Homestuck song at 7:19 was whiplash I thought I left my playlist going and accidently turned it on. Love Deltarune/undertale and Homestuck gonna check out the other Videos and 100% sub for the future content.
Deltarune!?!? You have my attention!!! I've already binged all JaruJaru and a few other theorists. Another guy named Chaos something I think? I'm looking to hyper fixate on more Deltarune.
15:50 okay, i know that these notes are from umbral ultimatum (and that it's the motif from doctor playing there) but i got jumpscared by it because the penumbra phantasm deltarune theory made my brain rot a bit too much
Honestly, I don’t really agree that Deltarune’s main theme is getting lost in fantasy. There’s just not a lot of evidence to me that this is the thing our main characters struggle with. I’d say escapism is a minor theme, with the main theme being control and and choice. After all, Kris struggles with the player controling them, Susie notably defies being controlled, Ralsei thinks his only purpose is to serve lightners, Noelle’s arc in chapter 2 is not letting herself be controlled by Queen, the secret bosses being themed around this, etc. I feel like the recurring line “kill or be killed” and “your choices don’t matter” both point to the major themes of the game, Undertale’s being violence and Deltarune’s being choice. But we only have 2 chapters out of 7 so this is hardly a full analysis of course.
18:36 huh, something about the way you said that just clicked something in my brain I'm not sure how i didn't see before. I don't think it's particularly relevant to this video but I'm gonna note it here before i forget anyway... Could HIM also be a pun on _Hymn_ ? With all the talk about this angel and their heaven in DR and some suggestions that angel may be or have something to do with Gaster, his "theme" being a hymnal would make sense 🤔
I just had a revelation that probably means nothing. So religion is a prominent part of hometown. What if the naming scheme of Him and Another Him is meant to sound like hymn? If Gaster is tied to the angel and the prophecy, is his theme like a prayer?
Hehe, glad you like it! You can find a full music list on the google doc linked in the description, but the specific song you're looking for is called "Moonsetter". It's from homestuck :)
@@thatredjevil6137 The song is called "Downwell Idea", and it was composed by DELTARUNE's creator! You can find a list of all the songs in a google doc linked in the description.
![[PART 1] Purpose that needs to be Fulfilled || DELTARUNE [Theory/Analysis]](/img/1.gif)
Wake up babe new deltarune microcelebrity just dropped
About time! It was three weeks too long for our deltarune fix!
OH MY GOD I JUST REALIZED
If flowey is a metaphor for disconnecting with fiction over time
Then gaster is a metaphor for getting lost in fiction
They are both mirrors of what a player can become
Seems about right to me.
are you saying im gaster?
@@brastionskywarrior6951 I am going to push you into the core.
@@brastionskywarrior6951
YES
Isn't that awesome!?
The real Gaster were the friends we made along the way
3:54 I like to say Deltarune isn't a sequel or prequel to Undertale, but a secret third thing - an equal.
Take my like. That’s clever and makes a lot of sense.
Clever, very clever 😂
Gaster was tasked with freeing the monsters from the underground. So it only makes sense that he would create a world where they live freely on the surface.
Man, this reminds me of old theories when chapter 1 just released, one of them even being the plot of dont forget story mode (or at least the demo)
just realized that the fact that "gaster" is specifically six characters may have been intentional considering his stats and the fun value of mystery man
I was gonna like your comment but then I realized it had exactly 6 likes
If we meet gastsr in chapter 6 everyone is going to go mad, or if the intro music for chapter 3 is called G.ogg
@@minestar2247 chapter 4 is a.ogg chapter 5 is y.ogg chapter 6 is a.wav and chapter 7 is ss.ogg
6 characters, like the goners from Undertale...?
It feels even more intentional since Gaster is just the 'Aster' font with a 'g' tacked on.
Oh my god wait. Castle town is essentially just Disney world.
Of *course* other darkners can’t exist in other dark worlds (like how Ariel can’t really exist in the Star Wars universe) but they *can* exist in *only* in Castle Town (Disney World), a place named after its founder (the player/Walt Disney) a place where everyone can exist harmoniously, *the happiest place on earth*. A place where you can meet your favorite characters, go on rides, eat their food, even *sleep* there, there’s even a *castle!*
A place where you can forget all your everyday problems, *a place where dreams come true*.
that reminds me, there’s a line in chapter 1 where susie compares the empty castle town to an abandoned theme park
@@sunrise.system Exactly! It’s *so weird!*
And what does Disney World do? It seeks your money and time.
What do dark worlds do for Lightners...? Seeks their soul and time. 🤔
@@TheSkyGuy77 that reminds me! one of the pieces of dialogue in Castle town (I think it’s from the same rudin that tells you that castle town is named after the player?) says that (if I remember correctly) “this place runs on dreams, so make sure they’re good ones!” Or something to that effect.
That *on top of* the fact that castle town is named after the player, which in and of itself is interesting since Ralsei was the only one in castle town before we came along, so it would make perfect sense (along with his weird 4th wall knowledge) for him to name it after us, and since Disney is named after its founder, that’s gotta mean *we literally made castle town*.
Which makes me wonder if this will be revealed at a later point? Idk, I’m starting to ramble 😅
@@Ongle_Spongle
Are we (the player) Gaster? 😂
Gaster, a _fictional character_ , created another fictional world, inside of another one.
Darker yet Darker
Fictioner yet fictioner
A fiction made of darkness
A darker yet darker fiction if you Will
Wow 🤯
the multiple personality has developed its own multiple personalities...
Reminds me of Metaverse Enterprise Solutions. The guys who created Doki Doki Literature Club
The power to build a world comes from your mind.
But the power to change the world comes from your heart.
"I don't know why I felt letting you hold the mic was a good idea"
"You're just a pair of eyes"
"You're just a pair of eyes"
"You're ju"
This is the most comprehensive theory crafting I think I've seen thus far in the Undertale/Deltarune community.
Nice work 👍
this isnt much of a theory yet, more like an overview of deltarune.
@@glareninja
It's still quite well made
@@TheSkyGuy77 definitely
Him falling into his creation... could be his own obsession with fiction, interesting!
I’m probably just thinking too much about this now, but isn’t it interesting how Gaster takes over Toby’s accounts. Gaster overtakes his creator. Darkness overtakes its creator. Fantasy and fiction become blurred.
8:48 Wait so does this mean that the Dark Worlds are trying to entice and lure people in so that they can’t get anything done in the Light World? IS EVERY DARKNER IN ON THIS!? IS LANCER SECRETLY EVIL?
Nah I’m just kidding but it would be an interesting take.
Great first episode by the way, can’t wait to see where it goes from here.
Ralsei is the one good one cause he kicks them out till they do their homework 😈
@@ChadRepson That is actually a really good point, I forgot about that dialogue where he “banishes” Kris and Susie from Castle Town until they finish their project.
shiiit the dark worlds do seem like unhealthy escapism fr tho
16:15 heres the thing, we know gaster is important, but theres something i don’t think people thought of: which gaster is doing what in deltarune? we cant really know, but we dont know if every gaster is doomed to shatter, or just undertale?
if its just undertale where is deltarune gaster?
and also which gaster is doing what? is undertale gaster (or a piece of him) doing this or deltarune gaster (or if shattered a piece of him) is at the beginning (yes its not proved, no i dont care)
to simplify
which gaster where, what, why, when, how, and current state?
I think Gaster didn't create the worlds of Deltarune themselves.
I think he created the device (program) that connects us to it.
Why?
Because he wants to change a linear narrative into one with multiple endings.
One that wasn't originally written by him.
In essence, Gaster is a fanfic writer. Or an alternate universe creator.
Wait you made this so well, I’d love to see you cover some deltarune args like Staggering Winds and Ash-Veil Lane and Unaltered
Tippiest toppiest tier deltarune theory video presentation, period!!!! The care you take with ordering, introducing, and explaining new information is world class. This video barely felt 40 minutes long; it remained relaxed and easy to follow, yet packed in a lot of important points. I love that you so clearly tie in lesser known facts that have actually have huge implications into the larger picture, and alongside supporting and more widely known info. On top of everything, just knowing first two topics of this series, the subjects of your videos are far from cookie cutter, yet you were able to bring up so many key pieces of lore detail. I don't believe the subject of darkness has been covered from the angle you've presented (or at least one this lengthy and thorough), and people don't seem to have too much to say or speculate on when it comes to sans' and papyrus' connections to gaster. Also, I don't know if anyone has said this, but I wouldn't listen to anyone who may say that you cater too heavily to people who barely know anything about the games, I can tell this series will be EXCELLENT for those people and it's Not a bad thing to assume your audience has almost no knowledge.
Anyways, I'm so excited hearing that you plan to have more than several installments expected in order to say your full piece about deltarune from every angle/with every topic you deem distinct and significant. Best of luck with everything, this channel should blow up should you choose to continue! ^w^
Another sip of Deltarune theory to keep me alive during this drought of new lore until Chapter 3+4
Thank you blessed theorist, cannot get enough of these vids🙏
Continue to cook, I will be exited for the other parts
I like the idea of if sans has a connection to gaster
The comment of " I know your type" can also serve to us as a reference to gaster himself and some characterization.
Weather or not intentional it's fun to think about. Parallels will be made even if they are canonical or not
Mann, this outro was a banger! Can't wait for the next episodes
👏👏 Incredibly well put together. This is what Game Theory could have done all along. Can't wait for the next video in the series!
Here's one thing I think could be REALLY important about the parallels between Deltarune's prophecy and Undertale's intro:
In Undertale's intro, the character who is intentionally depitced to look like you, is in fact NOT you (well, it's not the character you CONTROL throughout the game).
If we are to take that as a parallel too, then perhaps Kris, Susie, and Ralsei are not the heroes of the prophecy after all. I mean, after all- Ralsei isn't REALLY a "prince" of anything, is he? You know who IS? Lancer, as dumb as it sounds. We also know of one other human form that looks SHOCKINGLY similar to Kris- the Goner vessel created at the start of the game. We ALSO know of another monster who is relevant to the prophecy of the Delta Rune, Noelle. Point is, Deltarune can have MULTIPLE depictions of the same prophecy and still have it be technically true.
This is where I believe the "only one ending" of the game is going- the ability to depict the prophecy of deltarune in different ways under different circumstances.
This is an amazing video, going over what we know so far about the game, i'm looking forward of seeing the second episode
dope video! I definitely think Gaster is gonna be an ACTUAL character in Deltarune. And not just some weird entity we oly hear about. idk about him being the final boss though, but it's not completely impossible.
I haven't watched the video yet, but i just want to say that i really really like the thumbnail. it caught my eyes immediately somehow
will watch the video now!
love it, thanks for talking about your thoughts on deltarune! recapping all these mostly-agreed-upon themes and theories is super helpful, and hearing your insights gave me a new perspective i didn't have before.
Amazing Video. The Part where you compare Determination and Darkness was very interresting because that was the first time in have ever Seen Someone do it and the conclusion of the meaning of Darkness in Deltarune was really good. I am very excited for the following Parts.
39 minutes and 5 seconds? oh yeah this is gonna be good.
hearing the opening to downwell idea when i clicked this video made me freak out. I HAVEN'T EVEN WATCHED THE REST OF THE VIDEO BUT I KNOW THIS WILL BE GOOD! or at least, it'll be an interesting watch... let's see what i think!
so i'm not the only one who's made the connection between Darkness in deltarune and the Void aspect in Homestuck, right? the game is so completely Voidbound
It all goes back to HS, baybey.
COMMENTING BEFORE YOU'RE FAMOUS. this one ate amber frl!!!!
This video was really well put together and I love your voice, looking forwards to more in the future!
I love the use of Mother Cognitive Dissonance music!!! That OST deserves more respect than it gets. :))))
Also this video as a whole is incredible, you did a great job!
dude just found your channel witht his theory. and hearing my favorite Homestuck song at 7:19 was whiplash I thought I left my playlist going and accidently turned it on. Love Deltarune/undertale and Homestuck gonna check out the other Videos and 100% sub for the future content.
omg tyy for telling me where its from i was searching for it
5k celebration moment, this one do numbers!!
custom commissioned outro music? swag alert!
We do a little DARK, DARKER, YET DARKER.
The darkness keeps growing 🕳️
love the homestuck music playing in the background too
i have finished the video, the lore summons and i answer
I love the use of Homestuck music! Also, your voice is very pleasant to listen to. :]
This is awesome! Can’t wait for the next one!
THIS IS AMAZING!
so called "actually i dont feel like watching more deltarune theories" when it discusses things in a way i hadn't prior with moonsetter as the bgm
oh my god its all homestuck
28:00 wait what if why we dont see certain characters in undertale is because of flowey?
this is the most polite way to put it.
I'm always down for a new theory vid recommendation.
Deltarune!?!? You have my attention!!! I've already binged all JaruJaru and a few other theorists. Another guy named Chaos something I think? I'm looking to hyper fixate on more Deltarune.
YOOOOO MOTHER COG DIS MUSIC IN THE BACKGROUND LETS GOOOOOOO!
15:50
okay, i know that these notes are from umbral ultimatum (and that it's the motif from doctor playing there) but i got jumpscared by it because the penumbra phantasm deltarune theory made my brain rot a bit too much
I'm pretty sure we will finally, finally meet gaster in chapter 6 considering it's the penultimate chapter and also he has a thing with the number 6
I unironically think you just solved Deltarune. Like, this feels like I’m listening to *spoilers* it’s that good
spongeboy me bob a new deltarune theory dropped !
hii
i found you off of r/deltarunediscussion
this is awesome! great job.
I LOVE DOWNWELL
The dark fountains have some kind of magic 🪄 that the ligh world lacks
Honestly, I don’t really agree that Deltarune’s main theme is getting lost in fantasy. There’s just not a lot of evidence to me that this is the thing our main characters struggle with. I’d say escapism is a minor theme, with the main theme being control and and choice. After all, Kris struggles with the player controling them, Susie notably defies being controlled, Ralsei thinks his only purpose is to serve lightners, Noelle’s arc in chapter 2 is not letting herself be controlled by Queen, the secret bosses being themed around this, etc.
I feel like the recurring line “kill or be killed” and “your choices don’t matter” both point to the major themes of the game, Undertale’s being violence and Deltarune’s being choice.
But we only have 2 chapters out of 7 so this is hardly a full analysis of course.
berdley centric video when. we all know im the #1 berdley expert
The homestuck music tho 🙏🙏❤️
dope video, love the homestuck music
I subscribed for the Queen Ripple Pfp but i'm sure this video will be great
it's time to listen to the entry 17 for 5000th time 🤤🤤🤤
4:18 deltarune is its own thing tho. in fact it’s probably more so you dont get undertale spoilers, rather than the story wont make since.
the spoilers being: asgore, asriel, sans being ness, and just character behavior.
A most joyous occasion
18:36 huh, something about the way you said that just clicked something in my brain I'm not sure how i didn't see before. I don't think it's particularly relevant to this video but I'm gonna note it here before i forget anyway...
Could HIM also be a pun on _Hymn_ ? With all the talk about this angel and their heaven in DR and some suggestions that angel may be or have something to do with Gaster, his "theme" being a hymnal would make sense 🤔
Phenomenal video
Bacon sandwiches are the truth. Never forget this.
7:34 moonsetter jumpscare
👀
no frickin way
this is an amazing video!
the only thing I would recommend is to work on sound balance, because very often the music drowns out your voice
MOONSETTER JUMPSCARE WHAT
Oh... My DARKNESS FOUNTAIN is big.....
You need help
@@the10ofdiamondscarda lot
Anyone else taken to jokes end by this outro music?
amazing video
The "evil route" aw come on.
I just had a revelation that probably means nothing. So religion is a prominent part of hometown. What if the naming scheme of Him and Another Him is meant to sound like hymn? If Gaster is tied to the angel and the prophecy, is his theme like a prayer?
That feeling when you're desperately trying to smash subscribe without taking your eyes off the video
Here from WeaselWeaselW
Subscribed :3
7:34 WHAT IS THIS MUSIC I NEED IT RN
Hehe, glad you like it! You can find a full music list on the google doc linked in the description, but the specific song you're looking for is called "Moonsetter". It's from homestuck :)
@@AmbientRainfall Thank you!
Cool
Unrelated topic but are you a Kirby fan? I see your profile picture is of the Ripple Star Queen.
Hi bro you're awesome youtuber,I got request for you ''poof's killergarten ''from nevrycards, I would be so hyped for it 😄
What is the song in the beginning?
@@thatredjevil6137 The song is called "Downwell Idea", and it was composed by DELTARUNE's creator! You can find a list of all the songs in a google doc linked in the description.
Woah...
DOWNWELLL
Your background music is too loud at times, I feel
Edit: At least on speakers
what is the game in the background in the beginning?
@@7x143 It's called Downwell!
sic ngl
Why is your mic so terrible??? I thought it was on purpose at first, it sounds like you're recording this through a school intercom
I'm poor ;P I make these videos with a four year old gaming laptop, and I'm currently in a living situation which prevents me from getting a job
Wow this kinda reminds me of device theory tbh
wgat is trhie even abiyr
so true my friend
im sorry but i thought you were chris chan for a second
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