I really hope this means that Sun + Moon are gonna be used in the future of FNAF. They're such a cool character and it sucks to see them so under-utilized.
I honestly have a feeling that, much like the other Glamrock animatronics (Freddy possibly having some PTSD, Montgomery having anger issues, Chica having an eating disorder and Roxanne having self esteem issues), Sunnydrop and Moondrop both have anxiety. They want to appease the public.
It's most likely an organized mess, looks like a hellhole but the person (in this case Moon and Sun) who made it knows where everything is and can easily find it Fun fact: It's also a common trait highly intelegent people have!
2:50 the glitches in these are actually really great, not just some aesthetic exterior that other creators use. like the lagging/pausing on a frame of the game and stuff made me think my internet was acting up. love how it gets REAL bad/engulfing too and seems really difficult to play. the cut to sun's face didnt seem like a cheap horror tactic at all, very fitting.
I think this suggests that the symbolism of Sun and Moon does have something to do with Glitchtrap and William Afton. I don't think it's a coincidence that Sun and Moon share models, and that the moon it still visible on Sun's face. This could be a reference to William Afton's descent into madness. In the original teasers it says the moon shines forever and ever. I think this shows William always had a dark side (The Moon on Sun's face) but after his children (The Lights) died, he became completely evil and mad. (The Moon)
👀 I think that seems pretty plausible! Also William Afton has an influence on all the animatronics in the Mega Pizzaplex (including the daycare attendant) and it may be the cause of Moon’s aggressive and not so child friendly personality!
I think its because aftons programing and not a reference to William. As moon was made by them to watch over or protect the children while the lights go out while their sleeping. But Aftons programing could be making moon more aggressive against the children and Gregory which is why you get the message about how that kid cries when the lights go out.
Funny how this is the only one of these minigames (the NOT Princess Quest ones) actually in the initial release game, as Chica's Feeding Frenzy, which is also mentioned in the messages and has an unfinished version in the files as someone discovered, isn't normally accessible and is, well, unfinished.
@@samantha-uw3ky Yeah I just figured that out today. It's still missing apparently about half its levels though, as there is a version in the files with 18 levels instead of 9, and the weirdest thing is all of those unused levels except one seem basically finished.
I honestly thought this was Clickbait, good job, I NEVER would've figured this out (unless I was randomly taking photos of everything lol) Edit: OMG, Thank you so much for the 5.7k likes... I haven't even gotten this much likes or views on my videos, Thanks!
personally, i like to believe that the balloon world arcade machine in sun/moon's greenroom is the cause of moon's hyper aggressive state. maybe moon played the minigame, getting the glitched end, and got infected by glitchtrap, while sun stayed unaffected. "good night", something moon repeats time after time again right before he charges for you. this could also be why sun seemed strangely terrified when gregory unintentionally turned the lights off
I have a theory that with the sun and moon combined, they turn into another character that hasn’t been seen. What if the solar eclipse character was supposed to be the original daycare attendant, but something went wrong and they scrapped him? Then Glitchtrap, or even possibly Vanny, helped him and tried inserting him in the game via the portals. Since we know Glitchtrap has a way of sending messages through, well, glitches, this might be a way to get the eclipse back in the spotlight possibly.
I feel like the arcade conspiracy isn’t hinting towards completing all princess quest games. I think it’s hinting towards completing every single arcade game in the entire game in one play through. To do this you’d have to glitch every arcade game and then go to Vanny at the end to complete her third princess quest. I feel like that would give you a different endijg than the regular princess quest ending
Or that it's a different set of arcade machines than the princess quest ones. The note says "the others are protecting it" and in some cases ive noticed that AFTER you break chica, roxy and monty, They stay in specific areas more often than not. (I've noticed chica mostly staying in the arcade in my playthrough after i smushed her) So perhaps there are machines in those areas that the animatronics are guarding?
@@GrimsList Indeed, maybe it’s a completely different set hidden away just like this one where you have to sneak around those animatronics and take pictures or shoot specific things to unlock other hidden doors that lead to another set of three that give you a completely different ending. The possibilities are endless now with this information
@@error8119 maybe it's talking about bb world, monty golf and the unfinished chica arcade game that was found in the files. Perhaps it was going to be an ending but wasn't finished
theres another bb world arcade cabinet you can find once you go the cannon ending route. not sure bc i haven't beaten bb world bc it takes forever to do but you maybe be able to play it once you do all other possible arcade cabinets
Really Makes me wonder why BB doesnt appear anywhere not even as just an annamatronic but just as a statue of balloon holder. Youd think in a place so big theyd want to fill it with faces kids and adults remember.
But Balloon boy was originally from the location of the bite of 87 and the location keeping the original suits holding the bodies of the dead kids, so I doubt they want anyone to remember it.
In one of the play videos. I think CoryxKenshin's, there was an area underground I believe that had these service bots gathered around a table, but they were fixed up to look like people and three of them reminded me of BB, Baby, and Ballora. I figured that was just an easter egg though.
i don’t rlly think anyone would remember balloon boy. he was from the 1987 location, and i heard that security breach supposedly takes place in the 2060s, making it ab 80 years since balloon boy was introduced. he was also last seen in the fnaf 3 location i think, which takes place in like the 2020s+ or smth, so if he was remembered by adults, they’d only remember he was apart of a horror attraction, not to mention he wouldn’t suit the whole ‘modern and futuristic’ look of the pizzaplex. i can only rlly see the elderly being able to remember him
Curiously the 'objects' floating in the glitched portals almost resemble an EEG/ECG. Possibly Glitchtrap's...'brain waves' or 'heart beat' signifying Afton's favorite phrase "I always come back" or the other which is the hidden message in the original Princess Quest "I am ALIVE!"
Was there a deleted option to redeem a glamrock character? The concept seems to occasionally be brought up in the game but never seems to go anywhere cause gregory doesnt care about them. Was there originally a plan to redeem a glamrock character but was eventually scrapped before game completion?
redeem as in rescuing one from vannys control or redeem as in bring one back? with glamrock qbonnie being heavily hinted at i was expecting him to be re-built by the player and help get us to 6am or help get an ending. might of been a scrapped idea or something for the future dlc
id very much like that seeing as how (spoilers) when you go to the control room and the robots are banging on the doors and you can shock them, that's like a center control station. you could theoretically use that to disconnect them from the network and then once they are disconnected you'd need to get back to them and manually boot them up. they would be hostil at first but you could call Freddy to defend you, and he will talk to them, doing this would remove the option to obtain there ability but allow you to use another button to call them to use it instead and they would no longer be an enemy. this would however boost the other two to hunt you even harder and be more aggressive with tactics like ripping open random hiding spots or waiting behind corners (you'd still hear there breathing if they were waiting to ambush you) to surprise you
@@ethanshihadeh5458 I didn’t buy the game, I’ve never actually played a single one. Honestly don’t think I could play SB now 😭 I’m too emotionally attached to The DCA
I just want to take a moment to compliment the thumbnail. The way you angled the passage to the arcade game to make it look like the moon and then have the sun on the other half is super neat!
I'm guessing this may be a bit of a Remnant from a past idea for the game. Maybe in the same way Princess Quest 1-3 are tied to Vanny, there were Arcade Games for each of the hostile animatronics that could also free them from Afton's control; Balloon World for Sun and Moon, Monty Golf for Monty, Chica's feeding frenzy for Chica, and then probably a racing type game for Roxy.
Technically you don't have to actually *complete* the game in order to get the achievement, just enter the glitch area. It gives you the achievement even if you get kicked back out, which is what happened to me. I still made sure to complete it, for bragging rights.
@@yourlocalcryptid9553 nah. Probably just a side quest kinda DLC. Im bot sure how more night would be possible even with DLC depending on which ending is canon (and i would guess it's the only 3 star ending)
I'm betting that's Gregory's hiding place. Like he snuck into the mall and has been living there for some time. Perhaps that's the reason why he was so distrustful of Vanessa when he saw her because he's been hiding there for quite some time and the only beings he ever sees at night are the robots. I mean Vanny's got her own hideout in the mall and that spot definitely looks like it's been occupied quite a number of times.
Yeah, that's more of Sundrops/Moondrops room. Gregory's hideout might be the space under the ship in the area beside Monty's golf. There was some snacks, clothes, and even a tv.
He doesn’t, in one of the endings (I’m decently sure it’s the one where you just leave) he goes and sleeps outside in a box. He’s homeless, also, Vanessa has apparently been working there for quite a while based on how she acts and some of the emails.
Next arcade to investigate? Perhaps Monty's Golf with the balloon Stage with all the numbers, and then see if you can use that at the Lucky star by the Daycare? We thought those numbers might be special, and the Lucky star by the Daycare is one of the only places with all the other numbers around. As well as an ATM that wants an item.
@@mamahen724 But Sun is a clean freak. I think Sun killed the person in the room after they wrecked it. The person eing the one writing the conspiracy messages.
If anybody is obsessed with the fnaf lore, like me, you might’ve noticed something. Once he beat the game, there was a leaderboard, which is already weird considering where you have to go to find the game, but then in 3rd place, is cc. Or C.C? Also known as the crying child? What if he (The crying child) went through all of this, and has done all of this already, or what if he’s stuck in there somewhere? I know it doesn’t make much sense but when I saw that on the leaderboard that was all I could think about.
I think people need to start letting go of the idea that the ghosts of the previous children are still around. It was made perfectly clear that the end of Pizzeria Sim freed their spirits and they are no longer around. The only "ghost" that's still around is Afton
@@Ashurman666 and the ghost for Golden Freddy and i think Michael too since hes technically never going to rest seeing as how William keeps coming back
@@mike-ns6sw Golden Freddy is...a special case. Mostly because people can't agree as to whom is actually possessing it, if anyone at all. Michael I don't think is around anymore, Pizzeria Sim was pretty clear in the fact that his spirit was freed and is at peace, despite William still being around since he just REFUSES to pass on, he's like a damn roach
thats prolly just sun’s or moon’s personal arcade that he dragged in there himself. the room is def not in any state for children to be in. it’s like a little nesting roost almost
Theory I think it’s “eclipse” it’s both sun and moon merging and by playing the game and completing it you merge sun and moon into eclipse which gives sun and moon a more balanced control over each other…supposedly but since the text read goodnight this could also mean that eclipse is actually just moon raking completely over and sun is no more.
I mean, it's kinda like an eclipse right? When the sun and the moon are both seen. Maybe if outside the game Sundrop and Moondrop would come out at the same time, there would also be an eclipse? However because they are not programmed to do that it would be a glitch (which would explain the glitches in the game). Maybe if Sundrop was also hacked or something would be wrong with the lights, maybe that eclipse would come out.🤷♀️
If you beat the balloon game, does the other balloon game in the room Burntrap/William Afton is change? Or maybe you can access the other arcade games you need to do(the ones the message mentions)? I bet the upgrades or the Faz Blaster or Fazcam might be use for this purpose. This is just a guess.
@@MaxwellChester232 cool! I just thought it meant he got hacked by vanny since both of his eyes are bright red instead of blue/dark red. Beacuse vanny's signature hack always includes bright red eyes for some reason (as shown In the trailer)
@@Arkivalry I personally like to believe that Sun and Moon shared the same eye color. Ik you’re gonna read that and go “what?” In the posters, and the plush, tell us that Sun once had blue eyes. The common theory I’ve seen is that the color was removed because it gave away where he was looking, and caused more trouble than good with the kids. I think that Moon’s red eyes are more like heat sensors/night-vision. Easier to find kids in the dark that way, you know. But since the person above me pointed out that Vanny hacks turn the animatronics’ eyes red, they just ended up staying red.
Idk if anyone has talked about this yet, but isnt it strange that Sun always cleans up the daycare hysterically and then his room is a complete mess? THEORY TIME :D I think its either one these: - Sun is programmed to clean up the daycare and teach the kids to not make a mess, but nobody cares abt his room. Like, he could let a bomb explode there and they wouldnt even talk abt it🌚 - Sun cares so much abt the kids in the daycare that he cleans it up anyways even though he hates cleaning - Sun's room is pretty dark, maybe he just... turns into Moon when entering his room?🤡 And Moon doesnt care abt cleaning??? Idk????? - Oh, and I just saw @Seth OfSpades commenting that it might be bc Sun has anxiety, thats a smart theory :0
My theory is that the person trying to get noticed by the princess in princess quest is Vanny, let me explain. In the mobile version of help wanted the princess quest is first introduced, when you reach the end of the game, if you’re aware, glitchtrap showed up. What would happen if we play the game once more in the plex? Would Vanny succeed in what she’s possibly planning? Keep in mind that in the secret ending springtrap came back with glitchtraps power to control things. What is the point of princess quest?
Spoilers: Princess Quest represents Vanessa's struggle resisting the influence of Glitchtrap. If you manage to pass the three games, you will unlock the best ending.
So you know how moon wasnt always evil/creepy, he was nice, I think that the sun in the game is the evil/creepy side of sun. Just a theory, tell me if you have other theories :/
@@icememe9825 A theory I’ve been hearing is that Eclipse (the creepy sun in the arcade game) was the original daycare attendant, but at a different location (probably an unlisted Fazbear location, not sure) They had four arms, very efficient. Just like how Moon got a virus, so did they. Unfortunately, Eclipse killed a baby. They did not mean to do it. But, for safety reasons, they were dismantled. I’m not sure how their codes/programming got into an arcade game, but that’s just a possible backstory theory
Some people are calling the "Sun" character during the glitch segment "Eclipse." The character looks like a very color-burnt version of Sun with a more Moon-esc face and the dialogue "Good night" which is a line Moon says. A solar eclipse is when the moon covers the sun. Maybe this represents how Moon got sick with the Glitchtrap virus, for lack of a better term, and overpowered Sun. I'm not quite certain, but that's my favorite theory.
woaah i didn't know the sun's room was actually accessible thru regular gameplay, that's so cool wtf! :o i saw it in an out of bounds secrets video and i think the dude said it was a "scrapped area" but i remember thinking that it looked a little too well put together to just be a random inaccessible scrapped room, especially since there's a whole hallway and poster door leading there thru the theatre of all places 🤔 super interesting stuff! i honestly didn't even see the portals until you mentioned it, makes me wonder how people figured could have possibly figured out about this and then also knew to intentionally take damage and follow the portal stream 😳 also wonder how many little things like this scott hid in the game that we haven't found yet. fnaf fans are a different breed when it comes to sniffing out secrets tho so i doubt they'll remain hidden for long lol 😆
Me: "Sundrop youre arcade game is scary." Sundrop: "Yeah this happens sometimes. Wait! How did you came to my room up here?" Me: "Uhm i want to have a sleepover with you?" Sundrop: "Oh yes let's do it!"
I don’t know if it’s been theorized but what happens if the princess in princess quest is Vanny? Like glitch trap brought her out to be his minion and playing all three princess quests was a way for her to go back in her game. Like it makes sense that after playing all three games then shows the cut scene and the Vanny mask just on the floor with no one to be seen
Thanks for telling me how to get into Sun's room. Now if only I could do so and have it mean anything, because I chose the Fazer Blast and the game doesn't save collectables got after choosing to stay.
I feel like the sun and moon are perhaps another person who died in fnaf. I think this arcade cabinet is significant in some sort of way, as you have to go out of your way to find it. perhaps sun is the human side of sun/moon, and moon is the side controlled by glitchtrap, as sun never directly tries to kill the player, only moon does. Similarly, Freddy also doesn't try to kill the player.
@@TimmyDaTurtle I’m not 100% certain if it’s true, but I believe Sun and Moon are both just separate AIs and not actual humans. The lore I’ve heard is that they came from The Melodies, but looked **WAY** different before being moved to the pizzaplex
What would happen if you went into one of these glitches while Moon was up? Do the glitch portal appear at night? Because I'm really curious now if you see a creepy version of Moon in the sky (He was already creepy, but could you imagine a creepier version?).
ik this is probably a popular thought but i believe that the model for "glitch" sun is based of a solar eclipse, specifically a ring of fire one where the moon covers the sun at such an angle that a ring of the sun is visible around the moon. it doesnt go extremely dark, but rather a tint of red, similar to the sky in this glitched phase
Interesting the glitch world in this video reminds me of a solar eclipse Wich can explain why at the end it says good night cuz it kinda looks like sun is being coved by moon (animatronic wize)
The only way back into the Daycare is through the slide but when you try to go through the slide Sun throws you out again making the Daycare area inaccessible.
Although I think understand this MiniGame, I could understand how the sun animatronic connects to this MiniGame, so Balloon boy must have had his own restaurant or own room stage, I think the kid possessing balloon boy used to give balloons to other people or was obsessed with balloons hence the reason for the name balloon boy, now how the sun fits in, I believe that the sun animatronic was a mascot originally used, so I believe that William Afton Used the suit to lure The spirit of Balloon Boy and then killed the child that possesses balloon boy and the sun smiling or grinning was the last thing that the spirit of balloon boy saw before he died.
The Sun was created to run the Daycare as the Attendant. William died years and years before the Pizzaplex was made. The Pizzaplex was made in the 2040s or 2050s. Afton died in the 1990s.
I do believe that's suns alternate personality that's more agreesive used when dimming the lights theorized to be when parents are more aggressive or if someone enters the daycare but he glitched and tends to kill whoever he wants.
There's a mysterious game that involves sun, and moon we can play, and it has a secret ending!
Yee haw
Great job, I haven't seen the ending of the mini game yet. So I appreciate the explanation and effort :)
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I think that when you go in the portal and where sun and moon used to be is where a solar eclipse is happening
I really hope this means that Sun + Moon are gonna be used in the future of FNAF. They're such a cool character and it sucks to see them so under-utilized.
especially since most of the fandom love both sun and moon so much! :)
Pray for Withered Sundrop
Sun eclipse and moon eclipse
Security woo woo
@ OMG WHO CARES.
for a neat-freak like sun, his room is really messy!
I honestly have a feeling that, much like the other Glamrock animatronics (Freddy possibly having some PTSD, Montgomery having anger issues, Chica having an eating disorder and Roxanne having self esteem issues), Sunnydrop and Moondrop both have anxiety. They want to appease the public.
@@sethofspades2632 probably
It's most likely an organized mess, looks like a hellhole but the person (in this case Moon and Sun) who made it knows where everything is and can easily find it
Fun fact: It's also a common trait highly intelegent people have!
Might be because there are no children to trip and fall on his mess so he doesn't bother
@@sethofspades2632 PTSD?
2:50 the glitches in these are actually really great, not just some aesthetic exterior that other creators use. like the lagging/pausing on a frame of the game and stuff made me think my internet was acting up. love how it gets REAL bad/engulfing too and seems really difficult to play. the cut to sun's face didnt seem like a cheap horror tactic at all, very fitting.
Woah. This really goes to show that there is so much hidden in this game that we haven't found yet.
It's fnaf what did you expect?
@@Slvgg1gh_B3HAv1Or yeah but this is definitely a more interactive game that encourages exploration
That reminds me, have we even seen behind the lvl 10 security clearance doors
@@AfroHayot Maybe. It's not currently accessible without using hacks or glitches.
Markiplier found this in his playthrough so eh
I think this suggests that the symbolism of Sun and Moon does have something to do with Glitchtrap and William Afton. I don't think it's a coincidence that Sun and Moon share models, and that the moon it still visible on Sun's face. This could be a reference to William Afton's descent into madness. In the original teasers it says the moon shines forever and ever. I think this shows William always had a dark side (The Moon on Sun's face) but after his children (The Lights) died, he became completely evil and mad. (The Moon)
That could work ngl!
👀 I think that seems pretty plausible! Also William Afton has an influence on all the animatronics in the Mega Pizzaplex (including the daycare attendant) and it may be the cause of Moon’s aggressive and not so child friendly personality!
I think its because aftons programing and not a reference to William. As moon was made by them to watch over or protect the children while the lights go out while their sleeping. But Aftons programing could be making moon more aggressive against the children and Gregory which is why you get the message about how that kid cries when the lights go out.
William afton, the child murderer that murders childrens because "my child die of aksident"
woah
Funny how this is the only one of these minigames (the NOT Princess Quest ones) actually in the initial release game, as Chica's Feeding Frenzy, which is also mentioned in the messages and has an unfinished version in the files as someone discovered, isn't normally accessible and is, well, unfinished.
you can do a minigame in Monty's golf where you play golf.
@@samantha-uw3ky Yeah I just figured that out today. It's still missing apparently about half its levels though, as there is a version in the files with 18 levels instead of 9, and the weirdest thing is all of those unused levels except one seem basically finished.
@@legoboy7107 can I have video of those unused 9 levels?
@@Второйслучайныйчел here, it was in Fusion's video: ruclips.net/video/M-oqLIyt3Gg/видео.html
There is this notw saying you have to glitch all games at the same time... maybe a easter egg or secret ending?
I honestly thought this was Clickbait, good job, I NEVER would've figured this out (unless I was randomly taking photos of everything lol)
Edit: OMG, Thank you so much for the 5.7k likes... I haven't even gotten this much likes or views on my videos, Thanks!
Lol
Same
Me too
1k likes and only 4 replies how?
@@Yourmatehere378 big brain
Rifle: In this room you can find a golden moon plush-
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Has anyone else noticed that it looks like a solar eclipse with the moon guy over the sun guy?
It does look like an eclipse and it makes sense.
Uh oh
Daycare Attendent 3rd Phase Confirmed?
@@davidnewhart2533 the real final boss
Yep, like how on Sun's face the moon is in front of the sun
personally, i like to believe that the balloon world arcade machine in sun/moon's greenroom is the cause of moon's hyper aggressive state. maybe moon played the minigame, getting the glitched end, and got infected by glitchtrap, while sun stayed unaffected. "good night", something moon repeats time after time again right before he charges for you. this could also be why sun seemed strangely terrified when gregory unintentionally turned the lights off
Okay but like
Moon playing an arcade game to calm down is a good idea in itself
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The “portals” seem to be a reference to FNAF world’s glitch portals.
Plus it's In a forest
@@Cheeseburger897 not always, they can be in the rocky parts (in the balloon world game) not sure if they can be anywhere else tho
@@ItsLeBridge ooooh, i thought they meant where the portals were located! sorry lol.
I have a theory that with the sun and moon combined, they turn into another character that hasn’t been seen. What if the solar eclipse character was supposed to be the original daycare attendant, but something went wrong and they scrapped him? Then Glitchtrap, or even possibly Vanny, helped him and tried inserting him in the game via the portals. Since we know Glitchtrap has a way of sending messages through, well, glitches, this might be a way to get the eclipse back in the spotlight possibly.
The sun and the moon are the same character, but different personas. They're already technically combined.
@@zacheryestrada9667 maybe theres an inbetween? Just like eclipses
@@Crobat7269 maybe when sun gets really angry after you make a huge mess moon sort of rips out of him??
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I feel like the arcade conspiracy isn’t hinting towards completing all princess quest games. I think it’s hinting towards completing every single arcade game in the entire game in one play through. To do this you’d have to glitch every arcade game and then go to Vanny at the end to complete her third princess quest. I feel like that would give you a different endijg than the regular princess quest ending
Or that it's a different set of arcade machines than the princess quest ones. The note says "the others are protecting it" and in some cases ive noticed that AFTER you break chica, roxy and monty, They stay in specific areas more often than not. (I've noticed chica mostly staying in the arcade in my playthrough after i smushed her) So perhaps there are machines in those areas that the animatronics are guarding?
@@GrimsList Indeed, maybe it’s a completely different set hidden away just like this one where you have to sneak around those animatronics and take pictures or shoot specific things to unlock other hidden doors that lead to another set of three that give you a completely different ending. The possibilities are endless now with this information
@@error8119 maybe it's talking about bb world, monty golf and the unfinished chica arcade game that was found in the files. Perhaps it was going to be an ending but wasn't finished
@@blueee0088 weird that they kept the email tho- I feel like if your gonna make something unfinished don’t put it in the game at all??
theres another bb world arcade cabinet you can find once you go the cannon ending route. not sure bc i haven't beaten bb world bc it takes forever to do but you maybe be able to play it once you do all other possible arcade cabinets
Really Makes me wonder why BB doesnt appear anywhere not even as just an annamatronic but just as a statue of balloon holder. Youd think in a place so big theyd want to fill it with faces kids and adults remember.
But Balloon boy was originally from the location of the bite of 87 and the location keeping the original suits holding the bodies of the dead kids, so I doubt they want anyone to remember it.
In one of the play videos. I think CoryxKenshin's, there was an area underground I believe that had these service bots gathered around a table, but they were fixed up to look like people and three of them reminded me of BB, Baby, and Ballora. I figured that was just an easter egg though.
@@autumnusprime88 I believe that was supposed to represent the Afton family actually
@@m_artroom That’s what I mean.
i don’t rlly think anyone would remember balloon boy. he was from the 1987 location, and i heard that security breach supposedly takes place in the 2060s, making it ab 80 years since balloon boy was introduced. he was also last seen in the fnaf 3 location i think, which takes place in like the 2020s+ or smth, so if he was remembered by adults, they’d only remember he was apart of a horror attraction, not to mention he wouldn’t suit the whole ‘modern and futuristic’ look of the pizzaplex. i can only rlly see the elderly being able to remember him
Curiously the 'objects' floating in the glitched portals almost resemble an EEG/ECG. Possibly Glitchtrap's...'brain waves' or 'heart beat' signifying Afton's favorite phrase "I always come back" or the other which is the hidden message in the original Princess Quest "I am ALIVE!"
That's a really cool observation!
Was there a deleted option to redeem a glamrock character? The concept seems to occasionally be brought up in the game but never seems to go anywhere cause gregory doesnt care about them. Was there originally a plan to redeem a glamrock character but was eventually scrapped before game completion?
in the true ending, Freddy doesn't have any of the upgrades.
redeem as in rescuing one from vannys control or redeem as in bring one back? with glamrock qbonnie being heavily hinted at i was expecting him to be re-built by the player and help get us to 6am or help get an ending. might of been a scrapped idea or something for the future dlc
Hmm
id very much like that seeing as how (spoilers) when you go to the control room and the robots are banging on the doors and you can shock them, that's like a center control station. you could theoretically use that to disconnect them from the network and then once they are disconnected you'd need to get back to them and manually boot them up. they would be hostil at first but you could call Freddy to defend you, and he will talk to them, doing this would remove the option to obtain there ability but allow you to use another button to call them to use it instead and they would no longer be an enemy. this would however boost the other two to hunt you even harder and be more aggressive with tactics like ripping open random hiding spots or waiting behind corners (you'd still hear there breathing if they were waiting to ambush you) to surprise you
It was probably scrapped, because judging by the first trailer, a lot of things were changed
i think it is becuase how sun and moon are the same bot but the portal causes a solar eclipse in the game bring about both entities out at once.
r u sure about that
@@CalamansiCalamansiOnTheWall pretty sure it is
Give this too MatPat, so he doesn’t have to struggle getting to the end of this minigame
Honestly never really was into FNAF until I discovered Sun and Moon, I freaking love them
I can’t imagine anyone who didn’t grow up with fnaf and followed along buying this . Weird
Same
@@vinnygothika7510 LITERALLY SAME
@@ethanshihadeh5458 I didn’t buy the game, I’ve never actually played a single one. Honestly don’t think I could play SB now 😭
I’m too emotionally attached to The DCA
I just want to take a moment to compliment the thumbnail. The way you angled the passage to the arcade game to make it look like the moon and then have the sun on the other half is super neat!
I would like to take a moment to compliment your shepherd pfp
@@dopadream Thank you! :3
I'm guessing this may be a bit of a Remnant from a past idea for the game. Maybe in the same way Princess Quest 1-3 are tied to Vanny, there were Arcade Games for each of the hostile animatronics that could also free them from Afton's control; Balloon World for Sun and Moon, Monty Golf for Monty, Chica's feeding frenzy for Chica, and then probably a racing type game for Roxy.
I was thinking the same theory!
Sun isn’t affected. And I think moon is meant to kill people, as in the programming in order to stop thieves or vandals.
Technically you don't have to actually *complete* the game in order to get the achievement, just enter the glitch area. It gives you the achievement even if you get kicked back out, which is what happened to me. I still made sure to complete it, for bragging rights.
sun & moon: being all weird and glitchy throughout the game
balloon boy, who just wanted to float: *girl wtf*
If you go through the portals at night do you get glitchy moon in the sky?
Maybe
I’m pretty sure it changes to sun
I don’t think the portals can appear at night?
@@violet999ab Yeah because the night time sequences are always the bats, the portals can't appear.
What if: you wanted to go to heaven
But God said: *Requires level 4 security pass*
Good one
just call freddy to help
@@mike-ns6sw FACTS MAN
Freddy: I could open these gates if I had Monty's claw-
Anybody else a little bugged that we only spent 1 night at freddy's this time?
Yeah I want more nights there
onaf basically, I want more nights
I'm calling it now. Bonnie Bowling DLC incoming for another night.
@@yourlocalcryptid9553 nah. Probably just a side quest kinda DLC. Im bot sure how more night would be possible even with DLC depending on which ending is canon (and i would guess it's the only 3 star ending)
No
I'm betting that's Gregory's hiding place. Like he snuck into the mall and has been living there for some time. Perhaps that's the reason why he was so distrustful of Vanessa when he saw her because he's been hiding there for quite some time and the only beings he ever sees at night are the robots.
I mean Vanny's got her own hideout in the mall and that spot definitely looks like it's been occupied quite a number of times.
Sun literally comes out of there mate I also got other proof too but too lazy to write em
Yeah, that's more of Sundrops/Moondrops room. Gregory's hideout might be the space under the ship in the area beside Monty's golf. There was some snacks, clothes, and even a tv.
He doesn’t, in one of the endings (I’m decently sure it’s the one where you just leave) he goes and sleeps outside in a box. He’s homeless, also, Vanessa has apparently been working there for quite a while based on how she acts and some of the emails.
@@michaelzhang9806 Yeah its a bad ending and Vanny finds him sleeping there. It doesn’t show what she does but she probably killed hin
I'd be fun if it was, but since we need the camera to get there I don't think it's Gregory's room.
Next arcade to investigate? Perhaps Monty's Golf with the balloon Stage with all the numbers, and then see if you can use that at the Lucky star by the Daycare? We thought those numbers might be special, and the Lucky star by the Daycare is one of the only places with all the other numbers around. As well as an ATM that wants an item.
At 3:21 it almost looks like it says "Hi I Vanny" in Sun's mouth.
Kinda
maybe its a code
H-I+NI H-I4NI
It said good night
vanny doesnt know how to spell ig
It says "good night".
The real question is why the hell is suns place sooo dirty?
It feels like it's a kid's room. And it would makes sense in a way, because of Sun's personality.
@@mamahen724 you're right
@@mamahen724 But Sun is a clean freak. I think Sun killed the person in the room after they wrecked it. The person eing the one writing the conspiracy messages.
It's probably all the stuff the kids gave him
@@yo.hi.. I actually love this idea so much
If anybody is obsessed with the fnaf lore, like me, you might’ve noticed something. Once he beat the game, there was a leaderboard, which is already weird considering where you have to go to find the game, but then in 3rd place, is cc. Or C.C? Also known as the crying child? What if he (The crying child) went through all of this, and has done all of this already, or what if he’s stuck in there somewhere? I know it doesn’t make much sense but when I saw that on the leaderboard that was all I could think about.
I think people need to start letting go of the idea that the ghosts of the previous children are still around. It was made perfectly clear that the end of Pizzeria Sim freed their spirits and they are no longer around. The only "ghost" that's still around is Afton
@@Ashurman666
and the ghost for Golden Freddy
and i think Michael too since hes technically never going to rest seeing as how William keeps coming back
@@mike-ns6sw Golden Freddy is...a special case. Mostly because people can't agree as to whom is actually possessing it, if anyone at all. Michael I don't think is around anymore, Pizzeria Sim was pretty clear in the fact that his spirit was freed and is at peace, despite William still being around since he just REFUSES to pass on, he's like a damn roach
In the first place it says FF which I bet stands for Freddy Fazbear , CC can be for Chica the Chicken
So the construction team have to do all of that just to get into Sun&Moon's room just to fix them when broken?
They probably have a different way to access it
thats prolly just sun’s or moon’s personal arcade that he dragged in there himself. the room is def not in any state for children to be in. it’s like a little nesting roost almost
@@bittyb0t that's so cute imagining sun/moon being sneaky,taking a whole ass arcade machine like MINE NOW~
@@properjellydontbeproper3652 can’t imagine they have much to do after the kids go home, so it makes sense
Well it looks like an eclipse so maybe if the lights are flickering really fast sun will become not moon but eclipse mixing the behaviour of both.
You're answering all my questions I never thought I had!
Im scared at the fact you can enter my room whenever you want
I lived in ur wall
@@peanut3527 shit my pants
@@CalamansiCalamansiOnTheWall cry about it
@@peanut3527 joekujoe
Theory I think it’s “eclipse” it’s both sun and moon merging and by playing the game and completing it you merge sun and moon into eclipse which gives sun and moon a more balanced control over each other…supposedly but since the text read goodnight this could also mean that eclipse is actually just moon raking completely over and sun is no more.
the line of objects in the portal syncs with the music, that's neat. the red cubes are the drums and the link dashes are the midi part
It seems kinda weird that the note that gives a hint towards the princess quest ending takes way more effort than getting that ending itself.
OK I CANT BE THE ONLY ONE THAT THOUGHT THE TUNNEL IN THE THUMBNAIL WAS A CRESCENT MOON RIGHT????
I mean, it's kinda like an eclipse right? When the sun and the moon are both seen. Maybe if outside the game Sundrop and Moondrop would come out at the same time, there would also be an eclipse? However because they are not programmed to do that it would be a glitch (which would explain the glitches in the game). Maybe if Sundrop was also hacked or something would be wrong with the lights, maybe that eclipse would come out.🤷♀️
We must get this finding to Mat as soon as possible.
If you beat the balloon game, does the other balloon game in the room Burntrap/William Afton is change? Or maybe you can access the other arcade games you need to do(the ones the message mentions)? I bet the upgrades or the Faz Blaster or Fazcam might be use for this purpose. This is just a guess.
After seeing suns room, I feel bad for him.
Is it just me or does anyone else see a possible hidden message on the glitched sun's mouth? I see a 14 and NA.
I like to call this "Glitched Sun" variation "Eclipse" because he looks like an Eclipse
I have a video idea. What happens if you don’t turn the generators on while in the old pizza complex? Does it keep you from getting that ending?
No it just makes the recharge station not work
@@The_Third_Bomb which one
I just noticed the moon plush has blue/ red eyes!
Does that mean moon actually has blue eyes on one side? Or am I just theorizing
@@MaxwellChester232 cool! I just thought it meant he got hacked by vanny since both of his eyes are bright red instead of blue/dark red.
Beacuse vanny's signature hack always includes bright red eyes for some reason (as shown In the trailer)
@@Arkivalry I personally like to believe that Sun and Moon shared the same eye color.
Ik you’re gonna read that and go “what?”
In the posters, and the plush, tell us that Sun once had blue eyes. The common theory I’ve seen is that the color was removed because it gave away where he was looking, and caused more trouble than good with the kids.
I think that Moon’s red eyes are more like heat sensors/night-vision. Easier to find kids in the dark that way, you know.
But since the person above me pointed out that Vanny hacks turn the animatronics’ eyes red, they just ended up staying red.
Glitches never automatically mean glitchtrap. The only characters shown in the game are sun/moon and balloon boy.
I'm pushing for platinum on PS5 and this would be a big help. Thanks rifle! Keep up the great work 😉👍
Too bad you can’t get the ps5 platinum
@@earholeentertainment5866 Sorry i don't remember asking for that comment. But hey! Thanks for reminding me :)
Idk if anyone has talked about this yet, but isnt it strange that Sun always cleans up the daycare hysterically and then his room is a complete mess? THEORY TIME :D
I think its either one these:
- Sun is programmed to clean up the daycare and teach the kids to not make a mess, but nobody cares abt his room. Like, he could let a bomb explode there and they wouldnt even talk abt it🌚
- Sun cares so much abt the kids in the daycare that he cleans it up anyways even though he hates cleaning
- Sun's room is pretty dark, maybe he just... turns into Moon when entering his room?🤡 And Moon doesnt care abt cleaning??? Idk?????
- Oh, and I just saw @Seth OfSpades commenting that it might be bc Sun has anxiety, thats a smart theory :0
I know this may sound silly but I think balloon boy spirit is trapped in or haunts the MiniGame.
Daycare Attendent 3rd Phase Confirmed?
It looks like an Eclipse.
Wow, they actually added the full room!
i know it's not actually even a canon character/mode yet but glitch-sun's design is giving me MAJOR Eclipse vibes tbh
My theory is that the person trying to get noticed by the princess in princess quest is Vanny, let me explain. In the mobile version of help wanted the princess quest is first introduced, when you reach the end of the game, if you’re aware, glitchtrap showed up. What would happen if we play the game once more in the plex? Would Vanny succeed in what she’s possibly planning? Keep in mind that in the secret ending springtrap came back with glitchtraps power to control things. What is the point of princess quest?
Spoilers:
Princess Quest represents Vanessa's struggle resisting the influence of Glitchtrap.
If you manage to pass the three games, you will unlock the best ending.
Princess Quest is what you have to do to get the good ending. All 3 of them.
It's sad how all the glamrock animatronics have these decked out rooms with tons of stuff, and sun lives in a literal hole in the wall lmao
So you know how moon wasnt always evil/creepy, he was nice, I think that the sun in the game is the evil/creepy side of sun. Just a theory, tell me if you have other theories :/
@@icememe9825 A theory I’ve been hearing is that Eclipse (the creepy sun in the arcade game) was the original daycare attendant, but at a different location (probably an unlisted Fazbear location, not sure)
They had four arms, very efficient. Just like how Moon got a virus, so did they. Unfortunately, Eclipse killed a baby. They did not mean to do it.
But, for safety reasons, they were dismantled.
I’m not sure how their codes/programming got into an arcade game, but that’s just a possible backstory theory
2:24 the music here is a banger
Some people are calling the "Sun" character during the glitch segment "Eclipse." The character looks like a very color-burnt version of Sun with a more Moon-esc face and the dialogue "Good night" which is a line Moon says. A solar eclipse is when the moon covers the sun. Maybe this represents how Moon got sick with the Glitchtrap virus, for lack of a better term, and overpowered Sun. I'm not quite certain, but that's my favorite theory.
The glitched out sun kinda looks like a solar eclipse, both sun and moon
woaah i didn't know the sun's room was actually accessible thru regular gameplay, that's so cool wtf! :o i saw it in an out of bounds secrets video and i think the dude said it was a "scrapped area" but i remember thinking that it looked a little too well put together to just be a random inaccessible scrapped room, especially since there's a whole hallway and poster door leading there thru the theatre of all places 🤔
super interesting stuff! i honestly didn't even see the portals until you mentioned it, makes me wonder how people figured could have possibly figured out about this and then also knew to intentionally take damage and follow the portal stream 😳
also wonder how many little things like this scott hid in the game that we haven't found yet. fnaf fans are a different breed when it comes to sniffing out secrets tho so i doubt they'll remain hidden for long lol 😆
I’m thinking this probably might explain the origins of balloon boy at some point down the line if not in this game…? Or his connection to sun/moon…?
For some reason when the song turns into a creepy eerie song I started vibing to it 🤣
Markiplier: *See's a golden plushy*
Also Markiplier: THE LOREEEEEE!!!!!!
THE LOOOORRRREEEEEE !!!!!!
Anyone else seeing the numbers 1 4 6 in the Sun mouth?
I like how Mermaid Chica is shown holding Carl the Clam.
i have a feeling the devs allow you to enter that room and play it by not coding the game so tough and have high anti cheat, making the lore even more
Me: "Sundrop youre arcade game is scary."
Sundrop: "Yeah this happens sometimes. Wait! How did you came to my room up here?"
Me: "Uhm i want to have a sleepover with you?"
Sundrop: "Oh yes let's do it!"
Maybe the game has something to do with suns and moons glitch it could be a way to fix his coding
2:37 I guess we know what a solar eclipse looks like in fnaf security breach.
5:15 That one is for the Three part PQ ending where you play them in order with the last being in Fazerquest.
“Now I think this could be glitch trap bc it is very glitchy” 😂 nice observation
We need to somehow alert DanTDM to see this so he can find all of the endings
finaly somebody that shows how to get inside of the room not just glitching into it
That is eclipse sun! I've been searching up on the topic and it appears to be a different version of sun. Kind of like a mix between Moon and Sun
I don’t know if it’s been theorized but what happens if the princess in princess quest is Vanny? Like glitch trap brought her out to be his minion and playing all three princess quests was a way for her to go back in her game. Like it makes sense that after playing all three games then shows the cut scene and the Vanny mask just on the floor with no one to be seen
I think it's been confirmed
In the security breach files the princess in princess quest 2 and 3 is Cassidy
what happens when you try to enter the daycare through suns room?
Is it possible to re-enter the daycare after getting banned through his room?
7:06 Anybody Else Think That The Bunny Cut Out Looks Strangely Alike To Glitchtrap? Same Whiskers, Same Same Ears, Same Smile...
Thanks for telling me how to get into Sun's room. Now if only I could do so and have it mean anything, because I chose the Fazer Blast and the game doesn't save collectables got after choosing to stay.
What happens if you glitch all the arcades?
I believe there are only like 3 you can play and if you glitch them all you get the good ending . I think
@@elraytaco7421 there's already a good ending in the game 2 - 3 good ending it Could be and onther secret ending
I feel like the sun and moon are perhaps another person who died in fnaf. I think this arcade cabinet is significant in some sort of way, as you have to go out of your way to find it. perhaps sun is the human side of sun/moon, and moon is the side controlled by glitchtrap, as sun never directly tries to kill the player, only moon does. Similarly, Freddy also doesn't try to kill the player.
@@TimmyDaTurtle I’m not 100% certain if it’s true, but I believe Sun and Moon are both just separate AIs and not actual humans. The lore I’ve heard is that they came from The Melodies, but looked **WAY** different before being moved to the pizzaplex
What would happen if you went into one of these glitches while Moon was up? Do the glitch portal appear at night? Because I'm really curious now if you see a creepy version of Moon in the sky (He was already creepy, but could you imagine a creepier version?).
ik this is probably a popular thought but i believe that the model for "glitch" sun is based of a solar eclipse, specifically a ring of fire one where the moon covers the sun at such an angle that a ring of the sun is visible around the moon. it doesnt go extremely dark, but rather a tint of red, similar to the sky in this glitched phase
I think this room was scrapped but left in the game for anyone that can get to it
Its not scrapped
@@grimm2143 but you are
@@KydaWoIf no u
I feel like, from the logs, you should be able to glitch some of the other arcade games along with BB world and then something might happen
Rifle is the only RUclipsr I know that has been constant for nearly 10 years and not surpassed 1mil subs 😳🤣
2:12 Creepy? I think is a Banger! it sounds cool in my opinion.
More than a glitchy sun, it looks like an eclipse (see: the ring around the edges of the face) whic would mean sun AND moon at the same time
He’s very clearly going to be called “Eclipse.” And will probably be a very significant character in the DLC.
Interesting the glitch world in this video reminds me of a solar eclipse Wich can explain why at the end it says good night cuz it kinda looks like sun is being coved by moon (animatronic wize)
Yeah but what would explain the glitching might just be glitchtarp or it’s a hint to glitchtrap and princess quest
@@sanssans8121 yeah i do agree with that part to as well ^^
I love how moon in the mini game looks like the moon from majoras mask
What happens if you go back into the daycare from that place
Nothing
The only way back into the Daycare is through the slide but when you try to go through the slide Sun throws you out again making the Daycare area inaccessible.
Markiplier: almost beats ballon boy game
SB: *actually crashes*
Although I think understand this MiniGame, I could understand how the sun animatronic connects to this MiniGame, so Balloon boy must have had his own restaurant or own room stage, I think the kid possessing balloon boy used to give balloons to other people or was obsessed with balloons hence the reason for the name balloon boy, now how the sun fits in, I believe that the sun animatronic was a mascot originally used, so I believe that William Afton Used the suit to lure The spirit of Balloon Boy and then killed the child that possesses balloon boy and the sun smiling or grinning was the last thing that the spirit of balloon boy saw before he died.
The Sun was created to run the Daycare as the Attendant. William died years and years before the Pizzaplex was made. The Pizzaplex was made in the 2040s or 2050s. Afton died in the 1990s.
I do believe that's suns alternate personality that's more agreesive used when dimming the lights theorized to be when parents are more aggressive or if someone enters the daycare but he glitched and tends to kill whoever he wants.
MatPat got one of those cut-outs by accident
Btw, if y’all don’t know this, that glitched sun was called Eclipse