Well I revamped my Rochester and Friesland ( as well as commanders) to max out AAA and I can’t get a match with a carrier in it to save my life 😳. I’m just gonna play those 2 this whole update just to mess with CB and anyone who gets this ship🥸
I have had a carrier game except 2. I shot down 56 planes in Friesland and Parseval was still sending full squadrons at my teammates. I was within 3km of a DE 7 too so he must have shot down a few planes.
One game with Kaga was enough for me to know something was wrong with this update (reading the patch notes too xD), can't wait to use my Lion with a meme AA build though...
You can still shoot a metric ton down for massive XP, although yeah they'll keep coming back. Seems impossible to deplane one. Clear skies in almost every 7 game today 😆
So now the only way to win is screw cap control and go hunt the red CV right out of the gate ... and worry about caps after because the team that takes out the CV will be in control ..
I somehow got the admiralty backing from a free personal gift thing in the store which is quite nice. I can tell the airstrikes will really annoy people until they come onto an actual tech line.
Derka I have a request. Can we get a ranking of all the tier 7 US Battleships? For me my favorite is New Jersey but i realize it might not be the best I just wanted to hear what the pros think overall in an easy to reference source.
8:18 this would be cool because irl there was a battleship commander who technically sniped ships and never took damage because he used radar to hit his enemies which is cool as hell
Positive thinking. This will really force us to overthink our old ways. Maybe we all will cheer to future DDmains chasing CVs from start😂 My partially autistic brain is shocked, how easily my gaming life has been changed. Preparing for CV kills❤
I just finished it. It’s pretty fun. Teammates seem to hate it. I’ve enjoyed it. Haven’t figured out the same ship multiplier yet. I feel like peppering a target with your guns before using bombs should apply a multiplayer to the bombs and may be the trick to make them do something. Bombing little cap islands where red dd hides. Bombing a he spam in smoke. It’s fun.
Loving the new way the spotting works. No longer punished for pushing forward when only the carrier spots you. DD versus DD fights no longer give advantage to the person who smokes up with a carrier spotting for them. Haven’t played many other classes but from what I can see battleships are just cannon fodder to the cvs. CVs have never been balanced in wows because they don’t fit in with any of the other spotting or damage dealing mechanics. It can take most of a game to create cross fires in normal ships. The cv has always been able to set it up in minutes time after time
Playing low tier with CVs is basically fucking suffering Just like world of -warship- warplanes pc Have fun in your low tier cruiser and get absolutely smashed by the CVs while not being able to do anything about it, as if low tier cruiser isn't already known for being combustible, explosive and prone to being dev struck if something bigger than a fishing boat look at it then again it's not really a classic world of warship experience if an omaha didn't get obliterate within 2 minutes into the battle
From the game, before equipping modules and captains, just add the DPS up off the AA screen. Id be curious what's different, I may need to update old values. Or, Mundy needs to update his values on wowsbuilds
It looked like you spotted that fletcher DD when you threw a random air strike over the mountain. If so that could be a great way to have a quick radar that goes 12KM.
Hopefully get it for my Xbox. On pc I missed out on it and as a Dutch I really want this ship. Hopefully they also start the Dutch line soon on console.
Nice game! I decided to try out the new carriers with a game in Hermes and got three kills and 91,000 damage in a T3/4 match. It felt like I was using a T7 carrier because of the regen and airplane speed. I think the point of the crazy plane regen is so that you don't have to constantly switch back and forth in order to launch full squadrons like you used to have to do. Now, you can prioritize bombers or torpedo plane squadrons based on whatever you're targeting, being able to launch multiple full strikes of the same type in a row. That being said, I think the regeneration is too fast. You should eventually run out of one type of plane or the other, but as it stands, I don't think you could no matter how hard you tried. Overall, after only one battle, I think I like the carrier experience more now than I did before 🤷♂
The armor in term is like a floating thin waffle, once you angle you taste better for bbs, when broadside, for high velocity shells bbs would simply over-pen this thing up 10km. Unless there's something different in WG department if i could be wrong. On pc this ship gets over-pen a lot as the downside of angling gets this ship killed.
My old record b4 this update was California 56 planes shot down against a server. I'm curious to see what new records I can get shooting planes down. Atleast I cam have fun with aa ships
im hearing people in the hundreds already, i think by the end of the update, with shooting down d7p bombing runs, the number could be fudged to 150-200
For context, I've played a grand total of 2 CV games. I'm glad they are over tweeked at the moment. I really thought they'd nerved them too far. PLUS, adding CV rentals at LT, I thought they'd use the stat's to buff them. This next few weeks will be painful. Watch the meta change more than it has in 2 years. I do hope that it gets balanced a little better though. Getting 3 spotted in a full anti AA build Monty probably means that are a tad overcooked.....
Rochester has 420 out to 5km base, 8k if you fully build into it. So 720dps it’s getting on for double. The Rossi deletes entire squadrons in seconds so this thing should be insta squadron delete
Since this update, catapult fighters are completely useless. At least before they could spot, but they do not shoot down planes now. In a Zara and pushing with an Eastern Dragon, we both have fighters up with a CV attacking us. Neither of our fighters shot down a plane. What is the point of catapult fighters now?
@@DerkaGames but that proves the point of how the consequences of the changes they made were not considered. If fighters can't spot, then they have no use. Offer defensive AA as well or instead. How many Japanese and Italian ships now have a completely worthless consumable slot?
As a Japanese cv player I like this change, he bombs now can hit things as their bombers fly high and the restoration change will need a slight increase as it is decently quick.
It’s cool they are trying something different with the CV’s. BUT now I feel very pigeonholed into only playing ships with good AA. This actually makes me want to play less as I have all these ships that now I feel I shouldn’t play as the AA is bad it is just frustrating.
Every match had CVs this am. I played AA focused Rochester and Friesland predominantly in response. Id shoot down the squandron of planes as theyd make their bombing run. Watching 8 planes getting go down. It didnt matter. The enemy carrier would get full drops off. So basically, your never gonna stop a CV from dropping their full compliment of attacks. The minimap spotting only was nice. Thats the only positive i saw....
I’m basically fine with all these changes. If I do play CVs, I play them in AI. I think theses changes are good. My only gripe and I hope they revert it immediately is the no spotting of ships with fighters and spotter aircraft. Sorry but you can’t just take away the only tool some ships have for a little situational awareness. I’ve had a couple instances already where I’ve felt handicapped cause they don’t spot ships anymore. I don’t think that’s right. One other thing, I do not like carriers not spotting ships for their team, mainly dds. That’s one of their jobs. Those 2 things I am not a fan of it. I can live with the latter but leaving it the way it is now with the aircraft spotting is screwing almost all battleships and some cruisers by taking away vision options
@@DerkaGames I’m kinda nonchalant about a lot of changes. They’re always gonna tinker around the edges on these games but this one really needs to be dropped. I was playing yesterday and wanted to check whether someone was coming around the island and I was gonna have to deal with people on both sides but then I realized the fighter doesn’t spot anymore and I’m in a warspite so I have no way to get any kind of situational awareness. I don’t even care about the torpedo spotting. It’s almost a soft nerf to every single battleship without sonar/radar
hmm, has no one looked at Rochester's AA? That I know of it's the best in the game. Would have to double check it still beats Seven but it mops the floor with most everything else. I'm surprised Azuma isn't on the board either since She certainly has better AA than Atago from that list of AA-DPS tier 7 cruisers Edit: Rochester's AA is like 450 dps though I've not gone full AA build so Seven does beat it now Rochester is still good and the AA reaches pretty far too
All T7 cruisers are on that chart, just shows names on every other one, due to there being too many. Rochester AA is in a firm 2nd place with 370 DPS. It's the little bar on the chart in between D7P and Celtic
@@DerkaGames you're not wrong about the toxicity. People are PISSED. I'm used to people being upset at balances but this update, feels like WG missed the mark.
The aircraft’s are broken too far. Even in a division with all 3 boats having 600 DPS at 5km we are still getting focused and dropped on and killed!!! It’s BS! Unlimited planes coming in every 2 minutes! This is dumb!
However, legends did add cv spotting enemy ships only on the minimap and flight time limits for aircraft squadrons. These two changes have been the most requested by PC players to help balance cvs for 6 years! So maybe it will not be so bad. Love your content as always!
WG still doesn't care about it's community, how many people on WoWs (PC) actually enjoy carriers. Their restoration time is ridiculous. you see the other WoWs content contributor pgrapidz put up almost 400k damage in the the Japanese Hakuryu? It's dumb, we are on track for WG to drop subs and we can be equally toxic on both games.
Shadow nerf to all BBs, shadow buff to all DDs. Wargaming just took a DDs hard counter and made it a BBs. BBs can’t dodge their bombs/torps or shoot down their planes anymore. Not to mention BBs already dealing with insane HE spam DPM, DD players with 4.8 km concealment yolo torping them while their gearing lays smoke for the carrier at the back of the map, and the stupid overpen mechanic on broadside cruisers. Brutal blow for the few BB players out there who played aggressively/absorbed damage and survived decently long, we were a dying breed that just went extinct because nobody with a brain is dealing with this. I guess the one positive is I needed to start playing more light cruisers anyways😂
@@DerkaGames some BBs will still be viable, Massa, Bama, Repub, Foudre, all insane AA and agile enough to deal with it, but ships like Zieten will go extinct
WG is known for Creating problems, selling the solution. Look at recent times being example of Sicilia and Columbo, people wanted what Sicilia has on Columbo as they're both the same ship. soooo yeah...
Ahh thanks for clarification. Yeah....calculating these DPM increases on CVs overnight....it seems like anyone should have seen this coming that looked at the numbers.
@@David_Z220 but on PC it was exactly as I mentioned, all while on Legends it was already corrected in some form and fashion. @DerkaGames it's going to get wild later in the year or so probably, PC was like that when CV's got buffed and what not. Also as I've mentioned in another comment and possibly in another vid of yours, all the AA cruisers (Minotaur for example) and AA destroyers (Smaland and Halland for example) will play a bigger pivotable role now. Also, as mentioned in the video about waiting 4 weeks? it's already happening in my experience when it's coming to De Zeven. People/Div's are using De Zeven with Kidd, Mino, Halland, and Smaland making a Iron Curtain/Dome and then got Div's of De Zeven's Dev Striking with the air strikes at nearly 1 minute into the game. it sucks for BB players on the US line (I'm one) and IJN (again am one). lol, later in the year and next year it's going to be something...
Either double or triple AA for all ships and increase AA range, or revert the changes. What they could do is like radar or sonar, they could just put a delay for planes spotting enemy ships, like 10 seconds or so
CV's are way too strong now, playing my Z52 a midway 100% killed me out right with bombs in 2 minutes... no body else shot me, nobody else could see me, i was full health, 2 minutes later dead, with now way of survival. ive not played lengends since. CV bombs need a massive nerf, its completely unfair
I played eight games after the update. Every game had a cv and they all came top of the game. I even played the Rochester with an aa build and I was focused and sunk. Good balance NOT 😡
CV's are way over powered now it's just forcing BB's and other ships to sit at spawn's and snipe from the back from the map all ship's will have to be AA build now. The unlimited planes is just stupid. Took forever to do the Arkansas because it has no AA at all and can't have any added and the CV's know this and just farm it.
bbs has been obsolete since man could launch planes from a surface ship but yeah. WG either has to tone down the cvs or up the AA on every bb in game for them to not be getting completely ruined 2 minutes into a gamr
@@DerkaGames it's way more survivable, ap shells are phenomenal on both cruisers and battleships, the range with first slot aa is beyond 7km and with first skill as aa it farms planes and ships very reliably. overall best cruiser for AA in my opinion at the tier. Plus hp pool to take hits unlike the new ship.
Sorry was at work for the first comment, I reinstate it's better as a all around ship for use with AA not necessarily better DPS. However singled out the azuma has more HP and armor and can slug it out longer providing more planes shot down.
I have to say tho... AA is still not enough these new CVs are outrageous
They are not
Yes they are. Not only do they need to revert this update. They need to nerf carrier on top of that.
At what tiers? T7 seems strong, maybe a bit too overcooked, T5 seems perfect imo
I don't touch LT
Well I revamped my Rochester and Friesland ( as well as commanders) to max out AAA and I can’t get a match with a carrier in it to save my life 😳. I’m just gonna play those 2 this whole update just to mess with CB and anyone who gets this ship🥸
I have had a carrier game except 2.
I shot down 56 planes in Friesland and Parseval was still sending full squadrons at my teammates.
I was within 3km of a DE 7 too so he must have shot down a few planes.
The fact that the Kaga regenerates a plane every 16 seconds now is all I needed to know about this update lmao
Very busted
Graf zeppelin ain't far behind with 24 sec for bomb planes and 20 for torpedo planes
@@DerkaGamesI think for Kaga they need to increase the restoration time so somewhere around 25 to 30 seconds.
It's decent, just look how many planes he destroyed, do u think with 30 sec restoration kaga would do something?
Even with the restoration time I don’t like Kaga, it’s still hard to get more than one drop off with 12 planes
Bro posted 6 hours after the servers went live, that’s true dedication 🔥
Up early today!
One game with Kaga was enough for me to know something was wrong with this update (reading the patch notes too xD), can't wait to use my Lion with a meme AA build though...
Yeeeaaah this is wild
Sounds like my AA-Build Friesland is eating good
Naw the new carrier changes ignore all AA
You can still shoot a metric ton down for massive XP, although yeah they'll keep coming back. Seems impossible to deplane one. Clear skies in almost every 7 game today 😆
I went full AA build on Friesland. Shot down 103 planes and got 5050xp
@@LVS.. this is the way
@@LVS.. please share your commander and inspiration build captain thanks
So now the only way to win is screw cap control and go hunt the red CV right out of the gate ... and worry about caps after because the team that takes out the CV will be in control ..
Ive seen a lot of CV sniping, so youre not wrong
This new game mode needs to be seperated from standard.
Rochester was not on the AA dps graphic. It was AA king, will now have to slot in second
Rochester DPS is 370, it's on the chart in between D7P and Celtic
Ya I had gotten my Rochester set for AA range and damage for awhile now. Waiting to be a pain in the rear for CV players to deal with.
I somehow got the admiralty backing from a free personal gift thing in the store which is quite nice. I can tell the airstrikes will really annoy people until they come onto an actual tech line.
Derka I have a request. Can we get a ranking of all the tier 7 US Battleships? For me my favorite is New Jersey but i realize it might not be the best I just wanted to hear what the pros think overall in an easy to reference source.
Man your videos are so classy man. Love it
I appreciate that!
Such a fun ship... i don't know why i don't play it that often.
9:45 I love how WG gives us tons of points for being attacked by a noob CV
Why do u think people play cv? Because they are infact noobs
Free xp lol
Not every CV player is a noob. Noobs are way more likely to be in BBs. @@David_Z220
8:18 this would be cool because irl there was a battleship commander who technically sniped ships and never took damage because he used radar to hit his enemies which is cool as hell
We all love MOTORVERSTERKING
Translate to english hehe
Malta viewer spotted mad respect popcorn
@@DerkaGames Engine boost😅
@@olivercalm7020 lol gotcha
Positive thinking. This will really force us to overthink our old ways.
Maybe we all will cheer to future DDmains chasing CVs from start😂
My partially autistic brain is shocked, how easily my gaming life has been changed. Preparing for CV kills❤
I barely play theae days and making cvs busted kinda kills the fun I still had. Maybe Rochester is worth playing? Atleast for the update?
The dutch cruisers had some of the best AA on PC back in the day
Very saucy!
I just finished it. It’s pretty fun. Teammates seem to hate it. I’ve enjoyed it. Haven’t figured out the same ship multiplier yet. I feel like peppering a target with your guns before using bombs should apply a multiplayer to the bombs and may be the trick to make them do something. Bombing little cap islands where red dd hides. Bombing a he spam in smoke. It’s fun.
As the Enemy, can you see where the airdrop is placed?
Not really, you can get the just of where they may land but you have to be aware of them on the map or on your screen
Loving the new way the spotting works. No longer punished for pushing forward when only the carrier spots you.
DD versus DD fights no longer give advantage to the person who smokes up with a carrier spotting for them.
Haven’t played many other classes but from what I can see battleships are just cannon fodder to the cvs.
CVs have never been balanced in wows because they don’t fit in with any of the other spotting or damage dealing mechanics. It can take most of a game to create cross fires in normal ships. The cv has always been able to set it up in minutes time after time
BBs are like lambs to the slaughter yeah lol. Im with you though i enjoy the new spotting mechanic
Playing low tier with CVs is basically fucking suffering
Just like world of -warship- warplanes pc
Have fun in your low tier cruiser and get absolutely smashed by the CVs while not being able to do anything about it, as if low tier cruiser isn't already known for being combustible, explosive and prone to being dev struck if something bigger than a fishing boat look at it then again it's not really a classic world of warship experience if an omaha didn't get obliterate within 2 minutes into the battle
Oof that does sound aweful
Highest amount of planes destroyed in a single game for me is the Sejong with 79. Got that a lil while back now
I saw someone just post 116 😄 this is getting nuts
Derka, may i ask where do you get your info on AA-DPS from because your data is largely different from the one I refer to in wowsbuild?
From the game, before equipping modules and captains, just add the DPS up off the AA screen. Id be curious what's different, I may need to update old values. Or, Mundy needs to update his values on wowsbuilds
I am verry excited for this ship (Im dutch so i think you get why)
Oh nice! I thought the voiceovers for Karel were cool
am i the only one that noticed you got your clear sky when you reached 40 plane kills
yup, wg changed clear sky requirements. 40 shot down for clear sky now
@@ColaFr34k honestly Idk if that's achievable or not as regularly without this ship
It looked like you spotted that fletcher DD when you threw a random air strike over the mountain. If so that could be a great way to have a quick radar that goes 12KM.
Not spotted but you can see their AA, so its smart to throw random strikes looking for AA tracers
Hopefully get it for my Xbox. On pc I missed out on it and as a Dutch I really want this ship. Hopefully they also start the Dutch line soon on console.
Nice game! I decided to try out the new carriers with a game in Hermes and got three kills and 91,000 damage in a T3/4 match. It felt like I was using a T7 carrier because of the regen and airplane speed. I think the point of the crazy plane regen is so that you don't have to constantly switch back and forth in order to launch full squadrons like you used to have to do. Now, you can prioritize bombers or torpedo plane squadrons based on whatever you're targeting, being able to launch multiple full strikes of the same type in a row. That being said, I think the regeneration is too fast. You should eventually run out of one type of plane or the other, but as it stands, I don't think you could no matter how hard you tried. Overall, after only one battle, I think I like the carrier experience more now than I did before 🤷♂
91k in Hermes??? we're all doomed
my heavy AA ships are cleaning house. its a meat grinder out there!
Right on
The armor in term is like a floating thin waffle, once you angle you taste better for bbs, when broadside, for high velocity shells bbs would simply over-pen this thing up 10km. Unless there's something different in WG department if i could be wrong. On pc this ship gets over-pen a lot as the downside of angling gets this ship killed.
Yeah staying flat broad at close range isn't a bad idea, like Ochakov or Atlanata. No armor best armor
My old record b4 this update was California 56 planes shot down against a server. I'm curious to see what new records I can get shooting planes down. Atleast I cam have fun with aa ships
im hearing people in the hundreds already, i think by the end of the update, with shooting down d7p bombing runs, the number could be fudged to 150-200
I really want to play but i ended up in the hospital yesterday, happy to see some gameplay atleast
I'm sorry to hear that. I wish you a speedy recovery
Thanks for the review
You bet
The direct translation means "I attack, you follow"
Thank you for sharing, I wasn't about to try and pronounce that lol
@@DerkaGames ya.. I'm happy you didn't try.😁 It's Dutch
Well technically if you get the backing and finish it you do get an extra commander for inspirations
I had noticed Rochester was missing from your chart. Is D7 now better than Rochester in the AA dept?
Look closer, Rochester is in between d7p and celtic
For context, I've played a grand total of 2 CV games. I'm glad they are over tweeked at the moment. I really thought they'd nerved them too far. PLUS, adding CV rentals at LT, I thought they'd use the stat's to buff them. This next few weeks will be painful. Watch the meta change more than it has in 2 years. I do hope that it gets balanced a little better though. Getting 3 spotted in a full anti AA build Monty probably means that are a tad overcooked.....
Did they take the rentals away already?
i think thanks to this update cv rework finally i can unleash the friesland
Yesss
Well Aircraft carriers and planes were the dominators of the ocean in ww2. Makes sense why this happened lol
yeah they defo dominate now in this game sheesh
@@DerkaGames as they should
@@JW-ol4cp I guess next is make BB boats obsolete to Cruiser and Destroyer ATS platforms.
Pgrapidz also nearly got 400k the other day in Hakyru lol
how’s the AA compared to the Rochester
Rochester has 420 out to 5km base, 8k if you fully build into it. So 720dps it’s getting on for double. The Rossi deletes entire squadrons in seconds so this thing should be insta squadron delete
D7P stock DPS is 486
Rochester stock DPS is 370
D7P also has better range stock range by a full km. Both amazing but d7P is the king now
@@DerkaGames ok thx
So what now we need beder AA damage out put
or just nerf the restoration time and DPM back down
Since this update, catapult fighters are completely useless. At least before they could spot, but they do not shoot down planes now. In a Zara and pushing with an Eastern Dragon, we both have fighters up with a CV attacking us. Neither of our fighters shot down a plane. What is the point of catapult fighters now?
Totally agree they are pointless
@@DerkaGames but that proves the point of how the consequences of the changes they made were not considered. If fighters can't spot, then they have no use. Offer defensive AA as well or instead. How many Japanese and Italian ships now have a completely worthless consumable slot?
2:32 bro doesnt own a Rochester? (it has salem/wooster AA)
🙃 in between Celtic and d7P. Look closer my friend
@@DerkaGames i love being blind and dumb
@@Th3Mast3rL0ck I mean the charts start to not look right when there are 50 ****in ships. Wg stop making T7 cruisers lol
Is it better than Rochester? I was surprised not to see that thing in your AA table.
its on the table, in between Celtic and D7P
and yes its much better than Rochester AA
Do you think its worth to get it since ive got enough for the campaign but i dont know if i will have enough time to buy it
Hola DERKA games me podrías ayudar que comandante pondrías en el portaviones Hakuryū
Yamaguchi is really the only choice
One step forward and three steps back Wee-Gee style. Don't they test this before releasing to their clients?
It's a first wave overhaul of a change, subsequent changes are gonna be happening over time
As a Japanese cv player I like this change, he bombs now can hit things as their bombers fly high and the restoration change will need a slight increase as it is decently quick.
@@Wilsontripplets very CV centric oriented update. One way to promote sky cancer in the game.
It’s cool they are trying something different with the CV’s.
BUT now I feel very pigeonholed into only playing ships with good AA.
This actually makes me want to play less as I have all these ships that now I feel I shouldn’t play as the AA is bad it is just frustrating.
They just need to tone down the plane regen and damage I think
I just had a match in my Rochester with 128 planes shot down 😂
Holy smokes!!
What about Rochester AA? Did you forget that one?
370 dps, it's on the chart in 2nd place above Celtic, waaay behind D7P
Why didn’t you use AL Monti instead of Conrad, gives you more AA range
Wanted speed cause the boats slow af. Plus my Conrad is 16-3. ALM is only a 12 I think
Everyone who has this ship needs to focus on carriers only with air strikes 😂
I'm not opposed lol
good luck getting within 12km of a carrier with BB's slamming your broadside :)
@@JW-ol4cp BBs will be dead long before its a problem.
lol it’s funny how history of ww2 proved battleships obsolete to fight against cv’s, now the same is happening in wows legends hahaha
lol very true
I wish I had bought the admiratly backing for the last campaign 😅
oops =(
@@DerkaGames Nice video it helped me get a good idea of the ship, and I was wondering if the deal on the Wichita was a good deal?
Wichita is going down from 17,500 to 10,500
@@hms__ship8695 yeah a really good deal honestly. That's a great ship
Thx Derka!
Only viable build is aa for the update, gotcha.😂
Gg🍻
literally yes!!! sad but true
Every match had CVs this am.
I played AA focused Rochester and Friesland predominantly in response.
Id shoot down the squandron of planes as theyd make their bombing run. Watching 8 planes getting go down.
It didnt matter. The enemy carrier would get full drops off.
So basically, your never gonna stop a CV from dropping their full compliment of attacks.
The minimap spotting only was nice. Thats the only positive i saw....
Plane regen feels broken atm
The biggest problem isn't even cv rework, but the potatoes raid on update. I will skip for a week and things should return to less potato.
haha patch notes week is always bad
Everyone talking about the ship but why is he not opening the 96 crates😭
I'll open when i hit 999
Thats crazy
I’m basically fine with all these changes. If I do play CVs, I play them in AI. I think theses changes are good. My only gripe and I hope they revert it immediately is the no spotting of ships with fighters and spotter aircraft. Sorry but you can’t just take away the only tool some ships have for a little situational awareness. I’ve had a couple instances already where I’ve felt handicapped cause they don’t spot ships anymore. I don’t think that’s right. One other thing, I do not like carriers not spotting ships for their team, mainly dds. That’s one of their jobs. Those 2 things I am not a fan of it. I can live with the latter but leaving it the way it is now with the aircraft spotting is screwing almost all battleships and some cruisers by taking away vision options
Cat fighters are really useless now lol
@@DerkaGames I’m kinda nonchalant about a lot of changes. They’re always gonna tinker around the edges on these games but this one really needs to be dropped. I was playing yesterday and wanted to check whether someone was coming around the island and I was gonna have to deal with people on both sides but then I realized the fighter doesn’t spot anymore and I’m in a warspite so I have no way to get any kind of situational awareness. I don’t even care about the torpedo spotting. It’s almost a soft nerf to every single battleship without sonar/radar
Any cruiser with DFAA destroy planes, even my witchta does that
Id say this ship is worth getting just to do my kill 20 planes missions. Call me lazy but i hate doing that quest and ill take the easy button
hey im lazy as well
hmm, has no one looked at Rochester's AA? That I know of it's the best in the game. Would have to double check it still beats Seven but it mops the floor with most everything else. I'm surprised Azuma isn't on the board either since She certainly has better AA than Atago from that list of AA-DPS tier 7 cruisers
Edit: Rochester's AA is like 450 dps though I've not gone full AA build so Seven does beat it now Rochester is still good and the AA reaches pretty far too
All T7 cruisers are on that chart, just shows names on every other one, due to there being too many. Rochester AA is in a firm 2nd place with 370 DPS. It's the little bar on the chart in between D7P and Celtic
Ah, I didn't notice the bars in-between at first. That makes a lot more sense now
Another CC trolling Spartan with the thumbnail. He better not be surprised
Don't bring your drama here. No one is being trolled. Thanks
@@DerkaGames oh crap, sorry Derka - this was in jest. Not sure if you saw his vid, but he talked about thumbnails right at the start of his rant :)
@@Frateloder I'll go check it out 😄 my bad. I feel like the community has been toxic today so I took that the wrong way lol
@@DerkaGamesso understandable - and I need to be a little more careful.
@@DerkaGames you're not wrong about the toxicity. People are PISSED. I'm used to people being upset at balances but this update, feels like WG missed the mark.
The aircraft’s are broken too far. Even in a division with all 3 boats having 600 DPS at 5km we are still getting focused and dropped on and killed!!!
It’s BS! Unlimited planes coming in every 2 minutes! This is dumb!
100% agree
RIP the console version of the game is slowly turning into the PC version with the CVs.... The current state of the PC version is not great.
I sure hope not
However, legends did add cv spotting enemy ships only on the minimap and flight time limits for aircraft squadrons. These two changes have been the most requested by PC players to help balance cvs for 6 years! So maybe it will not be so bad. Love your content as always!
Currently i'm at t6
I'm cooked💀💀
WG still doesn't care about it's community, how many people on WoWs (PC) actually enjoy carriers. Their restoration time is ridiculous. you see the other WoWs content contributor pgrapidz put up almost 400k damage in the the Japanese Hakuryu? It's dumb, we are on track for WG to drop subs and we can be equally toxic on both games.
Shadow nerf to all BBs, shadow buff to all DDs. Wargaming just took a DDs hard counter and made it a BBs. BBs can’t dodge their bombs/torps or shoot down their planes anymore. Not to mention BBs already dealing with insane HE spam DPM, DD players with 4.8 km concealment yolo torping them while their gearing lays smoke for the carrier at the back of the map, and the stupid overpen mechanic on broadside cruisers. Brutal blow for the few BB players out there who played aggressively/absorbed damage and survived decently long, we were a dying breed that just went extinct because nobody with a brain is dealing with this. I guess the one positive is I needed to start playing more light cruisers anyways😂
LOL I think youre spot on. For the foreseeable future I will only play insane AA boats or CVs myself
@@DerkaGames some BBs will still be viable, Massa, Bama, Repub, Foudre, all insane AA and agile enough to deal with it, but ships like Zieten will go extinct
WG is known for Creating problems, selling the solution. Look at recent times being example of Sicilia and Columbo, people wanted what Sicilia has on Columbo as they're both the same ship. soooo yeah...
Sicilia = colombo in legends, but i understand what u say
Ahh thanks for clarification. Yeah....calculating these DPM increases on CVs overnight....it seems like anyone should have seen this coming that looked at the numbers.
@@David_Z220 but on PC it was exactly as I mentioned, all while on Legends it was already corrected in some form and fashion.
@DerkaGames it's going to get wild later in the year or so probably, PC was like that when CV's got buffed and what not. Also as I've mentioned in another comment and possibly in another vid of yours, all the AA cruisers (Minotaur for example) and AA destroyers (Smaland and Halland for example) will play a bigger pivotable role now. Also, as mentioned in the video about waiting 4 weeks? it's already happening in my experience when it's coming to De Zeven. People/Div's are using De Zeven with Kidd, Mino, Halland, and Smaland making a Iron Curtain/Dome and then got Div's of De Zeven's Dev Striking with the air strikes at nearly 1 minute into the game. it sucks for BB players on the US line (I'm one) and IJN (again am one). lol, later in the year and next year it's going to be something...
@@JunkoXan ye thats what i said too
Either double or triple AA for all ships and increase AA range, or revert the changes. What they could do is like radar or sonar, they could just put a delay for planes spotting enemy ships, like 10 seconds or so
Spotting and fuel changes are great, but DPM needs to be nerfed along with plane regen
Legends is turning in to a flight simulator and its sad.
Time to dust off HMS Cheshire.
I got a 42 plane shot down in it the other day.
I forgot how broken cheshire AA was....
CV's are way too strong now, playing my Z52 a midway 100% killed me out right with bombs in 2 minutes... no body else shot me, nobody else could see me, i was full health, 2 minutes later dead, with now way of survival. ive not played lengends since. CV bombs need a massive nerf, its completely unfair
totally agree theyre super super strong rn
Not buying campaign pass and won't play again untill aircraft carriers are fixed.
Hopefully theyre fixed fast
What do you think is wrong with them?
I played eight games after the update. Every game had a cv and they all came top of the game. I even played the Rochester with an aa build and I was focused and sunk. Good balance NOT 😡
its not great right now =(
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CV's are way over powered now it's just forcing BB's and other ships to sit at spawn's and snipe from the back from the map all ship's will have to be AA build now. The unlimited planes is just stupid. Took forever to do the Arkansas because it has no AA at all and can't have any added and the CV's know this and just farm it.
Oof Arkansas may be the worst ship in the game to play at the moment
@@DerkaGames I agree but to complete one of the missions you have to play it
Day 31 of asking for da Lexington review (i think i saw this game in the legends of wows server lol)
I thought it was day 32? You better go back and count lol
@@DerkaGames oh…
@@DerkaGames yes so it is day 32… i have like dementia or smth
Hey Derka, love your stuff, please check out my de 7 max XP, 4500XP ha ha.
This recent update has ruined the game even more, it just proves BB are obsolete. AA defence needs on all BB, CVs are so op now. New ship sucks
bbs has been obsolete since man could launch planes from a surface ship but yeah. WG either has to tone down the cvs or up the AA on every bb in game for them to not be getting completely ruined 2 minutes into a gamr
If I were to play a BB, Id would stick with american AA BBs, and spec full AA. Free XP
Weegee going down them sim path🤣🤣, by the end of ww2, BB’s were moving to the waste of resources and man power aka obsolete stage of their existence.
Rochester has better AA
Are us Europeans allowed to watch your videos. Never understood why you say you're a content creator for north America lol
No you're not allowed 🚫 🤣
Keep watching him, hes an actually good creator
@@David_Z220 thanks David lol. Matt honestly I didn't even realize i said it like that. We all play the same game, regardless of region
never been a stickler for rules so imma watch it anyway
Azuma has better aa...
Azuma DPS is 342! Pretty high but falls a little short now adays unless I'm missing something
@@DerkaGames it's way more survivable, ap shells are phenomenal on both cruisers and battleships, the range with first slot aa is beyond 7km and with first skill as aa it farms planes and ships very reliably. overall best cruiser for AA in my opinion at the tier. Plus hp pool to take hits unlike the new ship.
Sorry was at work for the first comment, I reinstate it's better as a all around ship for use with AA not necessarily better DPS. However singled out the azuma has more HP and armor and can slug it out longer providing more planes shot down.
More pay to win gotta love it
Its wowsl, haha are we surprised?
One word…uninstall. Done with this game
Don't cry man 🥺
Buy a american ship
@@ricardosilva5559 or use Mino and Brisbane and Halland or Smaland
See ya
@@ricardosilva555940% player needs to be carried by the special class for special people
Yep
And still, I like the change!
CVs used to be rubbish,, now the are competitive... I don't see the problem tbh.
CV dpm is perfect. Taking on full AA builds balances everything. BB players will have to get used to it an stop crying 😢
Take a hike Noob
We shall see what the spreadsheet says but even I'm averaging 150k in CVs now. And I haven't played a CV in literally years lol
It only balances in ships that already have good AA if the ship has mediocre AA even speccing in full AA is not going to help you.
I just rage quitted invoking every illness possible on every cv players.
lol