Hope you're enjoying the DLC! One thing - I didn't cover the new move Upper Hand here. I'm planning to do a separate video on it, and I wanted to do more testing before including it as a buff. One more thing - WHY IS BASTIODONS TERA HAT SO TINY? 😂
Also I had no idea you could hold a sitrus berry and it proc before you switch when using shed tail. I do however know that you can baton pass a normal substitute and even an aqua ring
FINALLY I could never comprehend why they were so utterly terrible, 70 power and only a 50% chance to activate their stat drop, it was a joke for a legendary signature move
@@ShiningJudgment666now they are still weak but just by modern standards and they were where they should of been back then. Maybe they’ll be 120 bp when everyone has spammable 150 bp moves
Technician + Skill Link Cinccino is basically real now, AND it gets "Dragon Dance But Also Removes Hazards". Some crazy buffs for the little chinchilla. Regarding Supercell Slam, Luxray also gets it now which is very nice.
If there's any delusion that Luxray has suffered the worst out of any physical Electric type in terms of movepools, it has to wait until lv80 to learn Wild Charge naturally meanwhile it's Sinnoh contemporary Floatzel learns Wave Crash at lv62 and naturally has access to excellent physical water type moves with Aqua Jet, Aqua Tail and Liquidation before then, not to mention the buffs the Sinnoh starters got (the Piplup line straight up got a different and more "competitive" HA). Getting an electric type Jump Kick is novel but nothing that won't stop one of the best designed mons being stuck in ZU for yet another gen and it's pretty messed up too since Game Freak is well aware Luxray has remained a relatively popular mon ever since it's introduction (it's even used as a Tera raid example) yet the devs refuse to truly buff the lightning lynx for some reason... :/
The main to consider regarding Cincinno is that: 1. it has to actually survive an attack or utilize other team support to ever pull off Tidy Up if you want to use the Technician + Dice set, with some of said support becoming negated upon using Tidy Up (it removes screens and substitutes, for instance) 2. its main moves have pretty bad accuracy, so it has serious issues with reliability. Honestly, i'd have preferred if it got Hone Claws instead for better consistency rather than doubling down on being a gamble to use.
It makes me so happy to see Emboar, Malamar, and Cinccino get needed buffs. Also glad that both Electivire and Zebstrika have a good physical electric attack now.
Unfortunately I genuinely think that Wild Charge is a better option for both of them, as Supercell Slam just has way too many drawbacks. Yes, it's 10 extra bp and there's no recoil, but you also lose 5% accuracy, and lose 50% of your health if you miss, hit a ground type, or into an electric absorbing ability like Volt Absorb or Motor Drive. And with Tera allowing anything to become a ground type at will, it's going to happen a lot.
Shed Tail is amazing on Septile. Give that thing a sitrus berry and after 1 or two shed tails that thing will activate its own overgrowth to boost giga drain, which when done to a weakened opponent can allow for a third shed tail.
Meganium has received some new moves: Charm, Body Press, Helping Hand, Encore, Knock Off, Weather Ball, Solar Blade, Grassy Glide, Fake Tears and Zen Headbutt Finally a Meganium W
@@foofootoo to be fair a lot of pokemon that have (excuse my language) ass fighting-type coverage run jump kick which is just fighting type supercell slam.
It is just sad that we are excited for a Jump Kick clone for a physical electric move. They needed something spammable, but if there is even a single ground type on the enemy team or a motor drive/lightningrod pokemon, clicking it becomes a massive risk. At least its a decent attack in the main story, which isn’t as swap heavy as pvp.
Yeah, Metagross always had a mouth. It is underneath the “lip” area. PMD DS sprites actually have him roaring as his idle animation and his Mega makes the mouth more noticeable, especially in the PMD portraits for the mega.
Okay, so we can forget that Meganium gets now knock off, solar blade, trailblaze, zen headbutt, grassy glide, weather ball, stomping tantrum and heal pulse for doubles, with swords dance, this thing could FINALLY do something
I'm sooooo happy to hear Cinccino gets Tidy Up now. I was disappointed to realize it didn't get Rapid Spin. Minccino's Pokémon White dex entry literally says it uses its tail as broom. Can't wait to use it in whatever lower tier Cinccino ends up in. Or maybe Minccino in LC would be nice.
Considering loaded dice and Tidy up + technitian.....I am not Smogon player, but I doubt a lot of things in the lower tiers want to be at the recieving end of those tail slaps and rock blasts (or triple Axel)
Serperior got Scale Shot. It may seem counter-intuitive, because of her massive speed, but this gives her a niche in Doubles Trick Room. Your speed will be lowered, and your physical defense will be increased, making Serp a decent choice for Doubles Trick Room.
It's a very overlooked but interesting option, although its speed and access to Leaf Storm defined it as a big OU menace in previous generations, it can be used as a surprise set in doubles. Also, it's not really a buff, but a great interaction: since a lot of teams are spamming Sticky Web strats on the higher tiers thanks to Gholdengo spinblock, it'll be a nice anti-meta pokémon there.
@@gustavofelipesabrito7365 And apart from that, Serperior has nice coverage now. Tera Blast Fire/Water can come in handy depending on what you wanna smash, and Tera Blast is miles better than what Hidden Power would dream of being, offensively and defensively. Not only that, but Serperior has Glare to dent teams, Knock Off for support, SubSeed sets, and Dragon Pulse in case you wanna go All Out on sweeping and destroy the dragons that resist both of the Tera Blast options and Leaf Storm (also being a nice neutral damage tool)
@@genarftheunfuni5227 still not enough, even base 90 speed Pokémon struggle at min speed still struggle at -1. Serperior (lv 50) at min speed and -1 with a quiet nature is still at 106 speed, that’s still quite fast for trick room.
@@sterling8389 it can get it yes. Trailblaze is good cause it raises speed like flame charge but it's a good check against water, ground, and rock types.
Im still sitting and waiting for silvally to return After what they did for arceus, they gotta be charitable with silvally too All type coverage+default defensive options (recover and so on)+status move pool lottery topped off with silvallys signature attack already being a 120 base damage ALWAYS STAB attack Justice for silvally, come on
Oh yeah, dont forget eelektross getting supercell slam too, meaning that physical eelektross has more options and is more viable since it no longer has to rely on wild charge
Some move set ideas for this i have rn item: assault vest Supercell Slam Liquidation (for ground types) Drain punch Knock off (Optional: fire punch) edit: though, you could theoretically run coil and a different item like life orb on this guy so it doesnt have to worry about the accuracy drawbacks of supercell slam, not to mention the attack and defense boost
For the special attackers however: Item: Assault vest Thunderbolt Acid spray (for those SpDef drops) Giga drain (great against ground types and for the recovery) Free move slot, stuff like dragon pulse, flamethrower, or flash cannon can work here depending on what you are more worried about at the time
@@theendlessphoenix2799 forgot it could get uturn, but true (if it says something though, i like to run the offensive side of my movesets where each move is a different type, that way i have full coverage)
i for one love that gyarados got a small buff with a physical fire move so it can deal with grass types easier since before it had to use tera flying/fire tera blast to deal with grass types
FINALLY... WE FINALLY HAVE A REASON TO USE CINCCINO OVER AMBIPOM AND BASTIODON OVER... Uhhhh.... Aggron? I guess? Eh Eh, they've given us a reason to use Bastiodon at all, to be honest
@@LucasF25 dude in most gens Cincinno is better than Ambipom. Ambipom just had a bad case of suffering for success for most of its career ever since gen 5
@@LucasF25 nope. In most meta, Cincinno is preferred over Ambipom. It has Skill Link and technician sure, but it lacks the move to abuse it until like gen 7. Where it have BOTH Bullet Seed and Rock Blast tin conjunction with skill link while Ambipom only have Tail Slap, and that is DURING gen 7. Hell look it up if you don't believe it. Also it movepool is NOWHERE GOOD as you think as nose of them are either too weak, a special attacking move, or just too situational to every use it (or straight up banned like Baton Pass)
Something to note is that Temper Flare doubles in power whenever the last move failed. So if Great Tusk uses a ground or fighting type attack and the opponent switches to something immune to those types (flying types, levitate, ghost types), he will now have access to a 150 base power no drawback fire move. Add Tera fire on top of that and it will nuke anything not resistant or immune to fire type attacks.
Don't forget about Cinccino having access to Triple Axel too. With Loaded dice it only checks accuracy once and hits 3 times. It's the only Technician user that has Triple Axel and it hits crazy hard.
@@TheAngriestReptileAlive I KNOW RIGHT??? Literally the perfect Pokémon for it! It’s like they’re afraid it will be too overpowered if they give it more Speed or recoil removal… And yet they also make things like Zacian…….
Besides Glimmora as you mentioned, a few other notable pokemon would appreciate meteor beam. Lunala and Eternatus, while both Ubers (or restricted in VGC), have historically run this move in the past. Surely they’ll use it again. Armarouge in VGC might run this move to counter Incineroar and Chi-Yu.
Cinccino is actually my fav even got a plushie of it. When dlc dropped first thing i did was find a Cinccino and found out on my own Cinccino got tidy up. Was super hyped about it but was sad no one else knew. Super happy other people are talking about now ❤
I'm genuinely excited for the Cinccino buffs, especially after the King's Rock ban on Showdown that I thought was really dumb. Access to Tidy Up is also a fun bonus. I'm probably gonna shiny hunt one to use for the BB League.
Metagross also finally got Heavy Slam, which given how heavy it is will hit most targets for 120 bp. Even against heavier stuff, it still gets Psychic Fangs. Also small one for Terrakion, Loaded Dice lets it use Rock Blast instead of Stone Edge, giving it a more reliable Rock STAB.
Did everyone just forget about wild charge? I feel like I'm going crazy. Wild charge is waaay better on iron hands because the drop in BP isn't that big and YOU DON'T LOSE HALF YOUR DAMN HEALTH ON A BAD READ.
I think Cinccino will be somewhat wide spread, but due to a different move than those with 2-5 hits. Triple Axel is in total a 120P move, but it's split between 3 attacks that max out at 60. With technician, this move becomes a 180P move with no drawbacks outside of the attacks having separate accuracy checks, and 10pp.
Worth noting that with Loaded Dice, Triple Axel only has one accuracy instead of three. Basically making it V-Create with 5% less accuracy and no drawbacks beyond that.
You missed a buff on latios, Luster Purge and Misty Ball respectively have received a damage increase to 95bp, and have a 50% chance to reduce spdef or spatk respectively
@@princess_sarina_aria_elysiaother strategy that can be used is in double battle, sceptile can hold Psychic seed paired with Psychic surge indeedee, it boost sceptile special defense by one stage and activate the unburden, then you can outspeed anyone and use Shed tail at the right time
Supercell Slam has really made me wish that the Klutz Ability would prevent "crash" damage. Supercell Slam, Axe Kick, Jump Kick and Hi Jump Kick would all benefit from an ability that prevents the "crash" damage. It would be really good on Lopunny and could be a fun alternative with better move distribution for Bewear, Golurk and Swoobat. Maybe add Normal Physical, Ghost Physical and Psychic Special Moves that all have "crash" damage. Heck remake Mega Punch and Mega Kick to be the Normal Physical "crash" moves.
I'm pretty Rock Head could block crash damage as well. I'll be surprised it can't. The ability Reckless boost recoil damage moves including crash damage moves like High Jump Kick hence why Mienshao and Hitmonlee were used a bit in RU.
another notable buff for emboar is that it gets trailblaze, so now it has physical grass coverage as well, which will give it the speed to be threatening to the faster mons, as well as hard press, so it also has fairy coverage that isn't weight reliant
You could do something akin to Ting-Lu's Fissure/Stomping Tantrum combo with Fire-types. Inferno/Temper Flare. If Inferno hits, great...you just landed a 50% accurate, 100 BP, STAB move that burns 100% of the time. If Inferno misses, Temper Flare is a 150 BP STAB move to compensate next turn.
Don’t run close combat Emboar. Run hammer arm in a trick room set with a sinistcha. Not only can you now make an avatar reference by naming emboar Uncle iroh, switching in and using matcha gotcha heals emboar a ton after using Reckless attacks like Wild Charge, Double Edge, and Flare Blitz. Slap on an assault vest to shore up defenses, grab a Brave Nature and train to survive urshifu.
Hard press can deal between 1 to 120 damage. Basically what you do is divide the current hp of the enemy pokemon divided by the full hp of the enemy pokemon and then multiply the result by 120. It will always give you something between 1-120 damage as a result.
Wonderful vid No spoilers that were big reveals or anything, so thank you. I'm playing through rn and haven't had as much time, most poketubers are showing off the full DLC, and all the secrets. Where I want to experience it myself and then go back and see their thoughts. This was well thought through, concise and to the point, showing off returning mons, not a (story) spoiler in sight. Good work, will be checking out your other works for sure :)
Or a physical Rock-type attack that’s 100% accurate and at least 80-85 BP The two signature moves is a step in the right direction, but as a said those are signature moves.
I'm very glad that they gave Electivire a new STAB as well as Bulk Up and Knock Off. But it really isn't enough. It also should have gotten Swords Dance, Close Combat, Mach Punch, Drain Punch, Power Whip and Belly Drum. It would also be cool if Motor Drive interacted with Electric Terrain similar to Wind Rider.
They should just make Supercell slam and Jump kick 100% accurate, there is still Ground and Ghost types out there that could cause you to miss, and ofcourse protect. Making these moves safe to hit on non-immune mons would be neat
It is notable that Terrakion does get the Upper Hand, which can now be used as an alternative to Quick Guard and especially viable in this generation as Priority Moves are common and Psychic Terrain isn't as viable. It also gets Highhorse Power, so it doesn't need to just use EQ or Stomping Tantrum for Ground coverage as well. And from other small changes - it got Aerial Ace and Roar back. Not really needed, but it does at least somehow broaden its options. Also like all the other of its kind - it works well with terastalisation, making Justified slightly more usable.
Would you be able to Skill Swap Contrary on Victini so that it gets stat increases with every V-Create? Obviously this wouldn't happen in VGC, but maybe in Smogon Doubles?
@ 7:40 Imagine if Zebstrika had Technician. Trailblaze and Flame Charge would get a massive buff in addition to buffing a stat for it. Add in Bulldoze for some extra surprise and you’d have a surprisingly good horse!
We ideally want a slower Pokémon to use shed tail so that the sub remains intact when the new Pokemon switches in. This lets the next Pokemon setup for free
I went to grab a shiny Treecko because I'm hugely nostalgic for Sceptile, so I was incredibly happy when I saw it got Shed Tail. I meant to carch it as a nice memory of my Emerald days, instead it ended up bringing the entire team together that I built for playing through the Indigo Disk story.
I want to point out the viability of intimidate Luxray now with the addition of Supercell slam. Intimidate and twave with ice fang for coverage and volt switch? Its now very useful. Electric types alone got a lot of love this dlc. Between minus and plusle buffs, supercell slam and thunderclap, they are in a good spot.
Just waiting for Rock Blast (25BP, 90%), Tail Slap (25BP, 85%) and Pin Missile (15BP, 100%) to equal Bullet Seed and Icicle Spear (25BP, 100%) in both power and accuracy.
Regarding Cincinno, there’s a tactic I’ve been using for the DLC story, and it’s been pretty crazy. Loaded Dice Cincinno using Bullet Seed on Stamina Archaludon gives Archaludon a 3-3.5x defense boost at the cost of a tiny bit of HP, and when you pair that with Body Press, Archaludon becomes a physical one-shotting machine on top of already being a special attacking cannon. The moment I saw Stamina on Archaludon, my mind flashed back to Mudsdale and Toucannon back in Gen 7 lol it was a lot more gimmicky back then, but now it feels genuinely terrifying
Supercell Slam not being a High Jump Kick Clone just shows that Game Freak (for reasons I really dont can explain other than Pikachu) hates to create good physical electric moves.
Holy crap great tusk having temper flare could be an amazing counter to a corviknight, if corv switches in on headlong rush, great tusk can just go for boosted temper flare to OHKO it.
Hope you're enjoying the DLC!
One thing - I didn't cover the new move Upper Hand here. I'm planning to do a separate video on it, and I wanted to do more testing before including it as a buff.
One more thing - WHY IS BASTIODONS TERA HAT SO TINY? 😂
*Big head, tiny hat.*
Also I had no idea you could hold a sitrus berry and it proc before you switch when using shed tail.
I do however know that you can baton pass a normal substitute and even an aqua ring
Im not sure about a normal sized scrafty but i fought one on raid and its rock hat was MASSIVE
@@Zolraini fought a shieldon in a raid and its tera hat was also hilariously huge
@@tdog1445 its still a bad pokemon, sadly I dont think it will ever be considered good without exceptions
One more buff to the Latis is that their signature moves, Luster Purge and Mist Ball are now 95BP
Ohh nice. Yeah. They were weak and had low pp.
Oh that's pretty cool
FINALLY
I could never comprehend why they were so utterly terrible, 70 power and only a 50% chance to activate their stat drop, it was a joke for a legendary signature move
That is beautiful! I adored those moves
@@ShiningJudgment666now they are still weak but just by modern standards and they were where they should of been back then. Maybe they’ll be 120 bp when everyone has spammable 150 bp moves
Technician + Skill Link Cinccino is basically real now, AND it gets "Dragon Dance But Also Removes Hazards". Some crazy buffs for the little chinchilla.
Regarding Supercell Slam, Luxray also gets it now which is very nice.
If there's any delusion that Luxray has suffered the worst out of any physical Electric type in terms of movepools, it has to wait until lv80 to learn Wild Charge naturally meanwhile it's Sinnoh contemporary Floatzel learns Wave Crash at lv62 and naturally has access to excellent physical water type moves with Aqua Jet, Aqua Tail and Liquidation before then, not to mention the buffs the Sinnoh starters got (the Piplup line straight up got a different and more "competitive" HA).
Getting an electric type Jump Kick is novel but nothing that won't stop one of the best designed mons being stuck in ZU for yet another gen and it's pretty messed up too since Game Freak is well aware Luxray has remained a relatively popular mon ever since it's introduction (it's even used as a Tera raid example) yet the devs refuse to truly buff the lightning lynx for some reason... :/
The main to consider regarding Cincinno is that:
1. it has to actually survive an attack or utilize other team support to ever pull off Tidy Up if you want to use the Technician + Dice set, with some of said support becoming negated upon using Tidy Up (it removes screens and substitutes, for instance)
2. its main moves have pretty bad accuracy, so it has serious issues with reliability.
Honestly, i'd have preferred if it got Hone Claws instead for better consistency rather than doubling down on being a gamble to use.
@@joshuakim5240in double it's easier to set up but you're not wrong
@@lynxfresh5214its problems are the same as Flareons. Its movepool is shite and the new move isn’t enough to make it relevant.
@@joshuakim5240put him in gravity and the acc problems go away
Meowscarada now gets Tripple Axel. With protean its a pretty nice buff
It makes me so happy to see Emboar, Malamar, and Cinccino get needed buffs. Also glad that both Electivire and Zebstrika have a good physical electric attack now.
Unfortunately I genuinely think that Wild Charge is a better option for both of them, as Supercell Slam just has way too many drawbacks. Yes, it's 10 extra bp and there's no recoil, but you also lose 5% accuracy, and lose 50% of your health if you miss, hit a ground type, or into an electric absorbing ability like Volt Absorb or Motor Drive. And with Tera allowing anything to become a ground type at will, it's going to happen a lot.
@@cplpuddingpopnot only that, imagine using that, as your only stab move with iron hands in vgc, you are getting predicted every day off the week man
They should give it to Luxray
@@cplpuddingpop people still use High Jump Kick and even Jump Kick to this day, its still a very solid improvement and its still better lmao
Really good move and even better on Iron Hands. Banded sets with these pokemon would be too easy to counter though
Shed Tail is amazing on Septile. Give that thing a sitrus berry and after 1 or two shed tails that thing will activate its own overgrowth to boost giga drain, which when done to a weakened opponent can allow for a third shed tail.
That would be super cool to see
More interesting, does it pass unburden when triggering sitrus berry?
@@nicolapodgornik6644unburden is an ability so no
doesnt sceptile learn acrobatics?
True, but shed tailed banned in ou
Mist ball at 95 BP makes me very very happy like ive been fiending for that move to get buffed
Oooh yeah that was a nice change!
@@foofootooSame with Luster Purge
Luster purge also got buffed, so Latios can use it instead of psychic.
@@vivillonenthusiast781is the drop chance still 100%
@@Dp_UnkemptharoldIt was never 100%. It was always, and still is 50%- still higher chance than Psychic, but not guaranteed.
Wring Out and Crush Grip did not have a max base power of 150. It maxed out at 110-120 depending of the generation.
Oh ty that makes more sense!
Dodrio finally got Drill Run! I'm so happy that now it can hit steel and rock types better
Meganium has received some new moves: Charm, Body Press, Helping Hand, Encore, Knock Off, Weather Ball, Solar Blade, Grassy Glide, Fake Tears and Zen Headbutt
Finally a Meganium W
None of those are significant.
What Meganium needed was the replacement of Leaf Guard.
@@lachlanclark4463 ←clueless
Clearly you have not used Swords Dance Meganium before
@@lachlanclark4463 clueless!?!?!?!??
YESSS FROM PU TO NU 🤑
Agreed. Thick fat would do wonders for it. @lachlanclark4463
Delphox gets Expanding Force,Skill Swap and Scorching Sands. Wish it has Psychic Surge though...
Also Malamar would be very helpful during raids.
I'm really happy that Electivire has a better boosting move, well he still doesn't have Close Combat, but it has what it needs for being better
Yeah, stronger electric move, good coverage, and set up will really help it!
@@foofootoo to be fair a lot of pokemon that have (excuse my language) ass fighting-type coverage run jump kick which is just fighting type supercell slam.
@@beibkk0 jump kick is still 100 power, not 80 or something.
Supercell is not a very good buff to elective considering if a ground type switches in you lose half your hp
@@roadrunner5549 If you see a ground type, you know, Icepunch.
So glad the Weezing and Regigigas were able to reunite in this DLC!! though maybe that explains why Ferrothorn didn’t show up in this dlc…
Now they can also share the fun with Slaking, too
Love seeing you cover buffs! Some of my favorite things about new games/DLC. Also laughed at Inkay being interested in Emboar learning Double Edge.
Inkay when it sees an Emobar using Double Edge: 👁👄👁
Between Topsy Turvy and now Skill Swap, my love for Malamar keeps rising.
It has some really unique options!
SHUT UP NO WAY MALAMAR GETS SKILL SWAP????
you've blessed me with this knowledge
Malamar stocks are rising.
I’m sad Grapploct didn’t make it
we just need to give him spot light and encore
FINALLY AN ELECTRIC TYPE JUMP KICK! Thats an amazing buff for my Zebstrika set, cause I was dreading Wild Charge
A much better option physical electric types, they really needed it
@@manelneedsaname1773 ABSOLUTLY! Like this needed to be something four Gens ago
Just make sure to be absolutely sure your opponent doesn't have volt absorb, lightning rod, or the ground typing lol
@@zacmayes2802 well obviously. Zebstrika also got coverage buffs like Trailblaze
It is just sad that we are excited for a Jump Kick clone for a physical electric move. They needed something spammable, but if there is even a single ground type on the enemy team or a motor drive/lightningrod pokemon, clicking it becomes a massive risk. At least its a decent attack in the main story, which isn’t as swap heavy as pvp.
more tidy up distribution is cool! I played through scarlet using a tidy up furret for all the story battles, it's a fun setup move
Yeah it's such a neat move!
I was thinking tidy up was going to Chincino, it makes so much sense
@@foofootoo 🥁 (*tss (there's no cymbal emoji))
Metagross getting Psychic Fangs? That's just EVIL. I LOVE it.
Time to slap this bad boy in every team I make :D
I could never imagine Metagross is a biter
WHAT
@@SomeGuy-cf2lp one of it's Dex entries mentioned that it will pin the prey down with it's body and eat it. So he a hungy boi
Yeah, Metagross always had a mouth. It is underneath the “lip” area. PMD DS sprites actually have him roaring as his idle animation and his Mega makes the mouth more noticeable, especially in the PMD portraits for the mega.
Okay, so we can forget that Meganium gets now knock off, solar blade, trailblaze, zen headbutt, grassy glide, weather ball, stomping tantrum and heal pulse for doubles, with swords dance, this thing could FINALLY do something
I'm sooooo happy to hear Cinccino gets Tidy Up now. I was disappointed to realize it didn't get Rapid Spin. Minccino's Pokémon White dex entry literally says it uses its tail as broom. Can't wait to use it in whatever lower tier Cinccino ends up in. Or maybe Minccino in LC would be nice.
I’m not even sure if it will be low tier now. Technician + Loaded Dice at +1 Attack and Speed is no joke!
I think this mon will be UU at worst. This thing reeks of early Maushold
Considering loaded dice and Tidy up + technitian.....I am not Smogon player, but I doubt a lot of things in the lower tiers want to be at the recieving end of those tail slaps and rock blasts (or triple Axel)
lil mf will end in DOU
Serperior got Scale Shot. It may seem counter-intuitive, because of her massive speed, but this gives her a niche in Doubles Trick Room.
Your speed will be lowered, and your physical defense will be increased, making Serp a decent choice for Doubles Trick Room.
It's a very overlooked but interesting option, although its speed and access to Leaf Storm defined it as a big OU menace in previous generations, it can be used as a surprise set in doubles.
Also, it's not really a buff, but a great interaction: since a lot of teams are spamming Sticky Web strats on the higher tiers thanks to Gholdengo spinblock, it'll be a nice anti-meta pokémon there.
@@gustavofelipesabrito7365 And apart from that, Serperior has nice coverage now.
Tera Blast Fire/Water can come in handy depending on what you wanna smash, and Tera Blast is miles better than what Hidden Power would dream of being, offensively and defensively.
Not only that, but Serperior has Glare to dent teams, Knock Off for support, SubSeed sets, and Dragon Pulse in case you wanna go All Out on sweeping and destroy the dragons that resist both of the Tera Blast options and Leaf Storm (also being a nice neutral damage tool)
Scale shot raises speed and lowers defense, even if it did lower speed, at -1 it would still be to fast to function in tr.
@@FTW1230 - Speed nature and IV removing berries:
@@genarftheunfuni5227 still not enough, even base 90 speed Pokémon struggle at min speed still struggle at -1. Serperior (lv 50) at min speed and -1 with a quiet nature is still at 106 speed, that’s still quite fast for trick room.
I was excited about minior getting meteor beam. It still isn't the best pokemon, but it can do something other than shell smash atleast
It also has access to Scorching Sands now which is really great for those who preferred its special side of Shell Smash.
Another thing to point out about Emboar. Just like Electivire, it gets access to Trailblaze too! Meaning fast Bulk Up Emboar sets are real lol
Say less!
Does it not get flame charge?
@@sterling8389 it can get it yes. Trailblaze is good cause it raises speed like flame charge but it's a good check against water, ground, and rock types.
@@Its_an_Eze EXACTLY!
Im still sitting and waiting for silvally to return
After what they did for arceus, they gotta be charitable with silvally too
All type coverage+default defensive options (recover and so on)+status move pool lottery topped off with silvallys signature attack already being a 120 base damage ALWAYS STAB attack
Justice for silvally, come on
Oh yeah, dont forget eelektross getting supercell slam too, meaning that physical eelektross has more options and is more viable since it no longer has to rely on wild charge
Some move set ideas for this i have rn
item: assault vest
Supercell Slam
Liquidation (for ground types)
Drain punch
Knock off
(Optional: fire punch)
edit: though, you could theoretically run coil and a different item like life orb on this guy so it doesnt have to worry about the accuracy drawbacks of supercell slam, not to mention the attack and defense boost
For the special attackers however:
Item: Assault vest
Thunderbolt
Acid spray (for those SpDef drops)
Giga drain (great against ground types and for the recovery)
Free move slot, stuff like dragon pulse, flamethrower, or flash cannon can work here depending on what you are more worried about at the time
can still run u-turn/volt switch on these sets
@@theendlessphoenix2799 forgot it could get uturn, but true (if it says something though, i like to run the offensive side of my movesets where each move is a different type, that way i have full coverage)
Plus, it doesnt hurt to have the recovery in the case of giga drain and drain punch
Zebstrika FINALLY getting a good physical electric move and Malamar getting skill swap ❤️
Malamar might have some fun Skill Swap interactions with Scovillain, as I’m pretty sure it’s the only real Pokémon that gets Overheat AND Leaf Storm.
i for one love that gyarados got a small buff with a physical fire move so it can deal with grass types easier since before it had to use tera flying/fire tera blast to deal with grass types
What fire move is that?
@@opposumness3107I'm guessing it's Fire Fang
@@SkylineGuy Temper Flare
Yet still no Liquidation :(.
They should’ve added raging fury as well
FINALLY... WE FINALLY HAVE A REASON TO USE CINCCINO OVER AMBIPOM AND BASTIODON OVER...
Uhhhh.... Aggron? I guess? Eh
Eh, they've given us a reason to use Bastiodon at all, to be honest
Yeah exactly, it's just kinda neat that these mons have a more defined niche
@@foofootoo every mon should have a niche, even if they're pretty underwhelming
@@LucasF25 dude in most gens Cincinno is better than Ambipom. Ambipom just had a bad case of suffering for success for most of its career ever since gen 5
@@naganut9718 i kinda doubt that considering Ambipom has a wider learnset and hits harder
@@LucasF25 nope. In most meta, Cincinno is preferred over Ambipom. It has Skill Link and technician sure, but it lacks the move to abuse it until like gen 7. Where it have BOTH Bullet Seed and Rock Blast tin conjunction with skill link while Ambipom only have Tail Slap, and that is DURING gen 7. Hell look it up if you don't believe it. Also it movepool is NOWHERE GOOD as you think as nose of them are either too weak, a special attacking move, or just too situational to every use it (or straight up banned like Baton Pass)
Something to note is that Temper Flare doubles in power whenever the last move failed. So if Great Tusk uses a ground or fighting type attack and the opponent switches to something immune to those types (flying types, levitate, ghost types), he will now have access to a 150 base power no drawback fire move. Add Tera fire on top of that and it will nuke anything not resistant or immune to fire type attacks.
I just want to mention that Vileplume get weather ball now, so much welcome versatility to have a niche in other teams :)
Temper Flare could be rlly nice on H-Arcanine in VGC since it complements well with rock slide's shaky accuracy
Don't forget about Cinccino having access to Triple Axel too. With Loaded dice it only checks accuracy once and hits 3 times. It's the only Technician user that has Triple Axel and it hits crazy hard.
Doesn't hitmontop also get that?
Let’s not forget that Rampardos got Trailblaze, which helps its Speed issue!!
Yet they refuse to give it Rock Head
@@TheAngriestReptileAlive I KNOW RIGHT??? Literally the perfect Pokémon for it! It’s like they’re afraid it will be too overpowered if they give it more Speed or recoil removal… And yet they also make things like Zacian…….
I just caught a shiny one so gonna def add to my team
Besides Glimmora as you mentioned, a few other notable pokemon would appreciate meteor beam.
Lunala and Eternatus, while both Ubers (or restricted in VGC), have historically run this move in the past. Surely they’ll use it again.
Armarouge in VGC might run this move to counter Incineroar and Chi-Yu.
I'm a fierce cinccino advocate so seeing it get Tidy Up is Amazing!! Can't wait to try it out!!!
Cinccino is actually looking amazing
Cinccino is actually my fav even got a plushie of it.
When dlc dropped first thing i did was find a Cinccino and found out on my own Cinccino got tidy up. Was super hyped about it but was sad no one else knew.
Super happy other people are talking about now ❤
I'm genuinely excited for the Cinccino buffs, especially after the King's Rock ban on Showdown that I thought was really dumb. Access to Tidy Up is also a fun bonus. I'm probably gonna shiny hunt one to use for the BB League.
Metagross also finally got Heavy Slam, which given how heavy it is will hit most targets for 120 bp. Even against heavier stuff, it still gets Psychic Fangs.
Also small one for Terrakion, Loaded Dice lets it use Rock Blast instead of Stone Edge, giving it a more reliable Rock STAB.
Fluttermane looking up in sheer horror as a a giant metal behemoth meteors towards it
EVEN LESS reason to have a hidden ability Metagross now lol
ppl used ha metagross?
Gamefreak will probably buff the rock type before giving physical electric types a good 100% accurate move
The electric type move situation is much better than the rock type one
Doesn’t thunderbolt exist? Lol just Joshin you bigchungus
@@KKalon They mean melee
Did everyone just forget about wild charge? I feel like I'm going crazy. Wild charge is waaay better on iron hands because the drop in BP isn't that big and YOU DON'T LOSE HALF YOUR DAMN HEALTH ON A BAD READ.
@@uberculexyou just lose heath on everything read
This summary amde my evening, Foo! Ty
I think Cinccino will be somewhat wide spread, but due to a different move than those with 2-5 hits. Triple Axel is in total a 120P move, but it's split between 3 attacks that max out at 60. With technician, this move becomes a 180P move with no drawbacks outside of the attacks having separate accuracy checks, and 10pp.
Worth noting that with Loaded Dice, Triple Axel only has one accuracy instead of three. Basically making it V-Create with 5% less accuracy and no drawbacks beyond that.
Commenting to bump engagement, never seen this channel before but immediately enjoined the enthusiasm. Thank you for the content!
Ty very much!
I always wanted Emboar to get a buff
You missed a buff on latios, Luster Purge and Misty Ball respectively have received a damage increase to 95bp, and have a 50% chance to reduce spdef or spatk respectively
That's super strong!
@@foofootoo oh I almost forgot, they did come with a catch. Each move is only 5 pp now
@@reyth9887 They were always 5PP, this is a straight upgrade.
I love how Shed Tail Sceptile can activate both Overgrow for Leaf Storm nukes, and Unburdwn through sitrus berry
Unburden sitrus wouldn’t work because it loses the speed boost when it switches
Does it eat the berry before swapping?@@princess_sarina_aria_elysia
@@princess_sarina_aria_elysiaother strategy that can be used is in double battle, sceptile can hold Psychic seed paired with Psychic surge indeedee, it boost sceptile special defense by one stage and activate the unburden, then you can outspeed anyone and use Shed tail at the right time
Supercell Slam has really made me wish that the Klutz Ability would prevent "crash" damage. Supercell Slam, Axe Kick, Jump Kick and Hi Jump Kick would all benefit from an ability that prevents the "crash" damage. It would be really good on Lopunny and could be a fun alternative with better move distribution for Bewear, Golurk and Swoobat. Maybe add Normal Physical, Ghost Physical and Psychic Special Moves that all have "crash" damage. Heck remake Mega Punch and Mega Kick to be the Normal Physical "crash" moves.
I'm pretty Rock Head could block crash damage as well. I'll be surprised it can't. The ability Reckless boost recoil damage moves including crash damage moves like High Jump Kick hence why Mienshao and Hitmonlee were used a bit in RU.
Squinting at Emboar not getting Upper Hand. It's a fighting type. With hands. I wanna know what that thought process was there 😭
Unfortunately Emboar has lower hands
Emboar needs to learn Drain Punch
It would be funny if GameFreak sees Emboar’s hands as “hooves/legs”
Players: why doesn’t Emboar use his hands?
GameFreak: hands? What hands?
He learns it now!@@a.x.x8184
@@a.x.x8184 It did get Drain Punch this Generation. So, have fun!
another notable buff for emboar is that it gets trailblaze, so now it has physical grass coverage as well, which will give it the speed to be threatening to the faster mons, as well as hard press, so it also has fairy coverage that isn't weight reliant
You could do something akin to Ting-Lu's Fissure/Stomping Tantrum combo with Fire-types. Inferno/Temper Flare. If Inferno hits, great...you just landed a 50% accurate, 100 BP, STAB move that burns 100% of the time. If Inferno misses, Temper Flare is a 150 BP STAB move to compensate next turn.
I’ve been waiting for this! I’m so excited for Supercell Slam in particular
It should be a great option in singles. It's just a shame that it will be super limited in VGC because of how common protect is...
Supercell Slam isn’t gonna get used if you also take the damage when you hit protect and ground mons, way to easy to be countered
metagross + zen headbutt is a combo so ingrained in my brain lol, psychic fangs is awesome
I am bit mift that Rampardos didn’t really get anything. It even lost rock polish, while it’s counter part Bastiodon got a few good buffs.
Speaking of Latios, Luster Purge, and Mist Ball too, have been buffed to 95 base power!
Don’t run close combat Emboar. Run hammer arm in a trick room set with a sinistcha. Not only can you now make an avatar reference by naming emboar Uncle iroh, switching in and using matcha gotcha heals emboar a ton after using Reckless attacks like Wild Charge, Double Edge, and Flare Blitz. Slap on an assault vest to shore up defenses, grab a Brave Nature and train to survive urshifu.
So Hard Press works sort of similar to Wring Out and Crush Grip
Wring Out and Crush Grip max out at 120 BP, not 150, so I'm guessing Hard Press will be the same.
Ty for the correction!
for some reason i would've thought they would give tentacuerl mortal spin. felt like it should've made sense
Hard press can deal between 1 to 120 damage.
Basically what you do is divide the current hp of the enemy pokemon divided by the full hp of the enemy pokemon and then multiply the result by 120. It will always give you something between 1-120 damage as a result.
I heard the max damage was 100
regigigas with superpower + contrary malamar sounds interesting
That does sound hilarious
Supercell Slam is okay I guess... but why can't they just buff Wild Charge to 120 finally? lol
Thanks foo for breaking these down for us
surprised you didn't mention latios having luster purge buffed up to 95 base power from 70.
Yep came here to say this. That is huge
Latias's Mist Ball too
Really happy to see Sceptile get a buff. He's always been one of my top two favorite starter Mons.
Wonderful vid
No spoilers that were big reveals or anything, so thank you.
I'm playing through rn and haven't had as much time, most poketubers are showing off the full DLC, and all the secrets. Where I want to experience it myself and then go back and see their thoughts.
This was well thought through, concise and to the point, showing off returning mons, not a (story) spoiler in sight.
Good work, will be checking out your other works for sure :)
why is it so hard for gamefreak to just give physical electric types a 90 power move, 100 accuracy, no drawbacks.
Or a physical Rock-type attack that’s 100% accurate and at least 80-85 BP
The two signature moves is a step in the right direction, but as a said those are signature moves.
You can patch up Supercell Slam's accuracy completely with a Wide Lens. It will never miss at that point unless evasion hax happen.
2:04 “They call me…Mr.Pig!”
The Emboar is female
Love how Shed Tail could possibly give sceptile an Ubers niche
I'm very glad that they gave Electivire a new STAB as well as Bulk Up and Knock Off. But it really isn't enough. It also should have gotten Swords Dance, Close Combat, Mach Punch, Drain Punch, Power Whip and Belly Drum. It would also be cool if Motor Drive interacted with Electric Terrain similar to Wind Rider.
Also, give it Iron Fist
Meowscarada got Access to Triple Axel. Now giving it a good option against Flying Types and Opposing Grass types
Loaded Dice + Technician is basically like Choice Band + Skill Link without the choice lock (assuming all moves are multi-hit moves).
Shed tail scep tile sound so cool!
I never noticed Hitmonlee was cheeked up. 💀
😭
They should just make Supercell slam and Jump kick 100% accurate, there is still Ground and Ghost types out there that could cause you to miss, and ofcourse protect. Making these moves safe to hit on non-immune mons would be neat
I think 95% is fine but don't make them recoil on immune type, just recoil from missing. Also Supercell slam deserve 130 BP like High jump kick
It is notable that Terrakion does get the Upper Hand, which can now be used as an alternative to Quick Guard and especially viable in this generation as Priority Moves are common and Psychic Terrain isn't as viable.
It also gets Highhorse Power, so it doesn't need to just use EQ or Stomping Tantrum for Ground coverage as well.
And from other small changes - it got Aerial Ace and Roar back. Not really needed, but it does at least somehow broaden its options.
Also like all the other of its kind - it works well with terastalisation, making Justified slightly more usable.
Would you be able to Skill Swap Contrary on Victini so that it gets stat increases with every V-Create? Obviously this wouldn't happen in VGC, but maybe in Smogon Doubles?
Yup, plus you can give it to something like Kommo-o and have it boost defenses with Close Combat and boost SpA with Draco Meteor.
Vicitini didn't make it
Before Ogerpon Malamar was my favourite Pokémon so I am so glad that it got a buff
Also, Luster Purge and Mist Ball were buffed to 95 power
Cinccino is now a menace to society and I couldn't be happier
the amount of hype i had on peeking Malamar in your team for this video vs the amount of dread i had upon seeing Incineroar
Emboar is my second favorite Fire-type starter. So I'm super happy to see it getting some buffs.
Shoutout to Regigigas's boyfriend Weezing.
@ 7:40
Imagine if Zebstrika had Technician. Trailblaze and Flame Charge would get a massive buff in addition to buffing a stat for it. Add in Bulldoze for some extra surprise and you’d have a surprisingly good horse!
Zebra, not horse
The electric “high jump kick” equivalent is a cool idea
We ideally want a slower Pokémon to use shed tail so that the sub remains intact when the new Pokemon switches in.
This lets the next Pokemon setup for free
Latios and Latias signature moves, Luster Purge and Mist Ball are both buffed to base 95, so they now a bit stronger than Psychic
So mean that supercell slam doesnt have the high jump kick base power, seems like a pattern with wild charge being weaker than flare blitz too
Volt Tackle is the Electric equivalent to Flare Blitz. The problem is it's being kept hostage by freaking Pikachu.😮💨
I went to grab a shiny Treecko because I'm hugely nostalgic for Sceptile, so I was incredibly happy when I saw it got Shed Tail. I meant to carch it as a nice memory of my Emerald days, instead it ended up bringing the entire team together that I built for playing through the Indigo Disk story.
Can always count on ya for those kinds of info!
One thing I think you forgot is Gyarados getting access to Temper Flare.
Thank you for keeping the video spoiler free. I've been taking my time with the dlc but it's hard dodging spoilers lol
All spoilers have a 95 accuracy, but you managed to dodge them pretty easily.
I want to point out the viability of intimidate Luxray now with the addition of Supercell slam. Intimidate and twave with ice fang for coverage and volt switch? Its now very useful.
Electric types alone got a lot of love this dlc. Between minus and plusle buffs, supercell slam and thunderclap, they are in a good spot.
Just waiting for Rock Blast (25BP, 90%), Tail Slap (25BP, 85%) and Pin Missile (15BP, 100%) to equal Bullet Seed and Icicle Spear (25BP, 100%) in both power and accuracy.
Regarding Cincinno, there’s a tactic I’ve been using for the DLC story, and it’s been pretty crazy. Loaded Dice Cincinno using Bullet Seed on Stamina Archaludon gives Archaludon a 3-3.5x defense boost at the cost of a tiny bit of HP, and when you pair that with Body Press, Archaludon becomes a physical one-shotting machine on top of already being a special attacking cannon. The moment I saw Stamina on Archaludon, my mind flashed back to Mudsdale and Toucannon back in Gen 7 lol it was a lot more gimmicky back then, but now it feels genuinely terrifying
Ill take any buff for Emboar. Its not much, but it will do
Supercell Slam not being a High Jump Kick Clone just shows that Game Freak (for reasons I really dont can explain other than Pikachu) hates to create good physical electric moves.
Oh my god incineroar with helping hand..
As if it wasn't already wasn't going to be broken
and it got goddamn Knock Off back, contrary to popular expectations
@@goGothitaLOL bruh
Rhyperior randomly gets Supercell Slam too. A fun new toy for Reckless builds.
If Rhydon can learn that move then its Rock Head ability is more useful along with Reckless. Rock Head should block crash damage right?
@Smart1529
I don't think it negates crash damage unless it's through Magic Gaurd. I'm not sure if it's been changed to be sure, so I could be wrong.
Holy crap great tusk having temper flare could be an amazing counter to a corviknight, if corv switches in on headlong rush, great tusk can just go for boosted temper flare to OHKO it.
I’m happy that Meganium can learn leech seed by leveling up plus it get knock off in it moveset
Yeah also got Zen Headbutt but still with LeaF Guard as an ability