The problem is that when they talk about 10 black businesses they are talking about their own (and friends) black businesses. When they talk about empowering the next generation they are talking about their own kids. We did not foresee that if you lay a table of food before poor people, they will dig in without order and make a mess, half of it will go to waste. In the end those at the front will get everything and those at the back continue to get nothing.
You are so right they the anc politicians think the taxpayers ,pay tax to benefit themselves and their families Anyone that still vote and support the anc needs to go for brain surgery because corruption under the anc will never ever stop,even after another 1000 Zondo reports that points at the anc government.
Yep. It's the same in most (all?) post-revolutionary societies. By definition, a revolutionary is someone who was not part of, and rarely educated in, the running of the state or large corporations. It was also his/her mission in life to fight, to resist and to break down (often rightly so). However, because of this, and ironically so, a revolutionary is rarely the best person (or organisation) to run a country post-revolution. Add to this the power vacuum in any post-revolutionary state - and the greed of men - there is no accountability: corruption becomes a way of life. We needed the ANC to overthrow apartheid; we need something else to take us forward.
So Sexwale was not dreaming about the zeroes. This government needs a reshuffle if we want a better life for our kids. I am 32 years old and I am suffering from decisions made by these guys whilst I was in diapers.
What has all this to do with Zimbabwe! In all fairness? Begging the question. 'Whites must not comment on the current political turmoil' bcoz they're the inventors of Apartheid' (that is water under the bridge now, we won't be harping about that till eternity - it was history's mistake); 'ANC must keep quiet bcoz they opened the door for Zuma into presidency' (well they didn't have the benefit of foresight at the time, only for Zuma to disappoint); 'Mbeki denied HIV/AIDS' (so what? So he can't say anything notable?) C'mon people!!!
@@doncareanymore well that the biggest lot of bullshit, next time the country faces xenophobia, it was not because of the whites... It was because of thulathula mbeki. The ANC are the architects of revolving replacement presidents all of whom have been corrupt Arms deal, nkandla, phalaphala, state capture Don't think for a fucking minute the ANC cares about the citizens Your rant kinda implied everything I say anyway, but it's ok you won't be able to justify the ANC all your life and you will look back at your comment at some time in the future and think OMG I was dumb perhaps with the next ANC invented blackout. Ps why don't you go on a rant with the rest of the comments.... Whoopsy they aren't white... Oh dear but they say the same things
@@doncareanymore This is not about race. This is about lack of leadership in the new South Africa, don't deflect. I'm a black South African and I'm tired of Apartheid being used a "cop-out" on the current issues facing our people. If this current government cannot fix things for all South Africans, they must move aside, our poeple are struggling, we need solutions not emotional rif-raf of reminding us about apartheid, it's hurtful enough what our people are going through right now.
@@man.q9035 mayb YOU missed my point. By the way I'm debating here the very point u bringing across : 'making quotations and references to the PAST everytime there is a looming crisis', and the things people will often say in defense of such positions. I'm actually saying it's not on, it must stop. U actually agree with me.
I love how only now they are locked in committee meeting to resolve this. They are now winding in their egos and race rhetoric and get the "veterans" back to fix the electricity. Let's get real these are old white engineers that were voted the best power station in the early 2000s guys. They have been willing to help and pass their knowledge on for years.
Ummm... didn't all the electricity kak start under his tenure? I seem to remember he even apologized for not acting when white paper was given to him... Seems even he has forgotten. He is correct about the leadership vacuum. Not a single person I can think of worth a vote. Nor a good place to be but the world seems to lack proper leadership.
We will remember the words of a wise Bantustan leader "Lucas Mangope"who was wise than all this ANC leaders combined!What he built was destroyed by the ANC!
And part of that "attempt" (lol) included forbidding Eskom from building out more generating capacity that they and anyone else with half a brain could anticipate would soon be needed.
The only way this country will see improvement is if all our leaders step down and we elect new and young politicians who will come with new ideas but the dinosaurs in power would rather S.A go deeper down the sink hole than the stepping down
Does anyone remember when they were on a campaign to change names of cities, towns, streets and airports? And they thought that will magically transform the country into a "world class African country"! Well, maybe they can try to change back the names of the cities back to what they were called when we had electricity and boom, the lights will be back on! Well, they will not because they steal better when the lights are off!
Which times are you talking about? The times when the whites had everything and blacks dignity was nothing? Even if you are talking about post-apartheid South Africa, whites names for streets do not correlate a bit with this situation. You're speaking bullshit!
Thabo mbeka is one of the anc Veterans whom won't be celebrated by the people when he passes but his colleagues, all this man ever does is talk and talk down on SA citizens while elevating other ethnicities... him and Tutu always been a cancer to bantu freedom and development. thank God for RUclips and old tapes of apartheid times, and I've studied this man an he has never change his tone since apartheid.
"Mbeki admitted last month his government should have heeded pleas by Eskom several years ago to invest more in electricity generation to keep up with the country’s economic growth. “When Eskom said to the government: ‘We think we must invest more in terms of electricity generation’, we said no, but all you will be doing is just to build excess capacity,” he said in a speech. “We said not now, later. We were wrong. Eskom was right. We were wrong.”" That was on the MyBroadband website in 2008 Great leadership when he was the one that started the massive crisis that we are experiencing at the moment.
millions of people died because of his AIDS denial policies. He was the better one out of Zuma, Motlanthe and Ramaphosa, but he wasn't a "good" leader per se.
He is of no use at all,still unable to comprehend that he was part of the problem and his lack of action also compounded the disaster we face now.The man is pathetic, as are all his ANC cronies.
Exactly my point, he is acting like he was the best president, the rot of this country started with Mandela, he is also one of the architects of this rot!!!
He was the best president we ever had next to Madibe,they removed him because he wasn't corrupt and installed the most corrupt president for 10 years who raped and pillaged eskom SAA and every single Soe
MBEKI should join the only party that's South Africans hope to fix the double we are in & it won't be easy he cry about electricity everything is destroyed by ANC police Hospitals roads jobs electricity the money getting looted by the day in the ANC & those the ANC put in power of jobs to serve us but they only serve themselves not caring about our future our children this is why I will never get kids no further only D.A can rebuild D.A but I don't see the people wanting to help S.A &' the future ✌️
Speak up Mbeki, speak up about your colleague gangster Jacob and his mafia associates Guptas, SPEAK up how they brought eskom to it's knees,, SPEAK UP don't hide behind nonsense talk, just like ramaposa
Can Mbeki stop talking and just agitate for his return to government. We know his analysis and insight is accurate but the county needs him to come back and run government!
And repeat the mistakes that he made on Aids and the prohibition on new expansion at Eskom in the 2000's? We are facing this crisis because he started us on the road to ruin.
Besides his unsuitability to lead SA due to his abject failures (which may have been less abject than what came after him, but a failure he remains), he is constitutionally incapable of becoming president again as he has already served two terms.
"For failing to be proactive"... says the exact guy who forbade Eskom from building out new capacity that anyone with half a brain could anticipate (in the early 2000s) would soon be needed.
There should be an unwritten code here for former presidents, it works like that in other climes. A former president has access to whoever he wants to talk to in the country if he really wants to share something he considers very important. This way he's going is littered with torns because it's geared towards self glorification than anything. This approach has never solved anything before. There's no possibility that it will solve anything now. What I see here is the unnecessary drama that's about to ensue.
Hello this guy what is talking about he is the one cause all this he was a president at the time mlambo was minister of energy when eskom tell her they needed money because ten years down the is going to be electric problem he refuse says the will never be when it happened he says sorry he must not blaming the current leadership he is number one on all this problem we facing why blaming others he must blame himself too
To all the people in the world 🌎 South Africa was better under T Mbeki, l still miss him never this negative stories and corruption under his term when Zuma came to the seat all sit start
Look up who forbade Eskom from building out new generating capacity when they came to him in the late 1990s / early 2000s with plans to do so and why they needed to start then.
With due respect Mbekis administration was far better than his counterpart. The only misdemeanor under his administration was the fact that a lot of people died as a results of Hiv/Aids and he would have done a lot better had he not reason as if he was the scientist. Other than his administration was far much better.
@@isaacmathebula8051 Please enlighten me...what did Mr Mbekis Administration..do during his tenure....?? He inherited a performing economy of 4.2% on average, high performing eskom...and he could not take advantage of the environment...He is the Father of loadshedding...he could not produce any clear economic policy to take this country forward...
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The problem is that when they talk about 10 black businesses they are talking about their own (and friends) black businesses. When they talk about empowering the next generation they are talking about their own kids. We did not foresee that if you lay a table of food before poor people, they will dig in without order and make a mess, half of it will go to waste. In the end those at the front will get everything and those at the back continue to get nothing.
"if you lay a table of food before poor people, they will dig in without order and make a mess, half of it will go to waste." hmm!
Yip black leadership since 94 has been self serving no doubt
This is a powerful comment..big up on that.
@@andilegxelesha-maqashu7348 I felt that
You are so right they the anc politicians think the taxpayers ,pay tax to benefit themselves and their families Anyone that still vote and support the anc needs to go for brain surgery because corruption under the anc will never ever stop,even after another 1000 Zondo reports that points at the anc government.
More words with no action, ANC is to blame for all the troubles in South Africa
Exactly - talk, talk, talk, talk. Do anything? Dream on
Nothing will change only talk talk talk ....all words no action. We so used to this I got trust issues
The ANC is a curse on South Africa
c-ANC-er!!
True
Thabo Mbeki speaking facts if you look money is available the trillions just leadership
Facts bro.. Shout out to Kellz Visuals
It's easy to destroy but takes a wisdom to rebuild
Yep. It's the same in most (all?) post-revolutionary societies. By definition, a revolutionary is someone who was not part of, and rarely educated in, the running of the state or large corporations. It was also his/her mission in life to fight, to resist and to break down (often rightly so). However, because of this, and ironically so, a revolutionary is rarely the best person (or organisation) to run a country post-revolution. Add to this the power vacuum in any post-revolutionary state - and the greed of men - there is no accountability: corruption becomes a way of life. We needed the ANC to overthrow apartheid; we need something else to take us forward.
So Sexwale was not dreaming about the zeroes. This government needs a reshuffle if we want a better life for our kids. I am 32 years old and I am suffering from decisions made by these guys whilst I was in diapers.
You are a gem, if you can see this at your age.
This is the end of the anc
Please Lord
Remember when he was all thula thula on Zimbabwe, his actions are part of the problem
What has all this to do with Zimbabwe! In all fairness? Begging the question. 'Whites must not comment on the current political turmoil' bcoz they're the inventors of Apartheid' (that is water under the bridge now, we won't be harping about that till eternity - it was history's mistake); 'ANC must keep quiet bcoz they opened the door for Zuma into presidency' (well they didn't have the benefit of foresight at the time, only for Zuma to disappoint); 'Mbeki denied HIV/AIDS' (so what? So he can't say anything notable?) C'mon people!!!
@@doncareanymore well that the biggest lot of bullshit, next time the country faces xenophobia, it was not because of the whites...
It was because of thulathula mbeki.
The ANC are the architects of revolving replacement presidents all of whom have been corrupt
Arms deal, nkandla, phalaphala, state capture
Don't think for a fucking minute the ANC cares about the citizens
Your rant kinda implied everything I say anyway, but it's ok you won't be able to justify the ANC all your life and you will look back at your comment at some time in the future and think OMG I was dumb perhaps with the next ANC invented blackout.
Ps why don't you go on a rant with the rest of the comments....
Whoopsy they aren't white...
Oh dear but they say the same things
@@doncareanymore This is not about race. This is about lack of leadership in the new South Africa, don't deflect. I'm a black South African and I'm tired of Apartheid being used a "cop-out" on the current issues facing our people. If this current government cannot fix things for all South Africans, they must move aside, our poeple are struggling, we need solutions not emotional rif-raf of reminding us about apartheid, it's hurtful enough what our people are going through right now.
@@man.q9035 mayb YOU missed my point. By the way I'm debating here the very point u bringing across : 'making quotations and references to the PAST everytime there is a looming crisis', and the things people will often say in defense of such positions. I'm actually saying it's not on, it must stop. U actually agree with me.
Yes Mbheki!!!!!!!
Lost confidence in him long time. He is the major part of this down fall . A man that speaks about Adi Amin as a righteous man.
He's having an oops!!! moment..this guy speaks like he was never a president.
How was he doing in his time?
What a joke load shedding started in 2007 when he was president
Which year did he resign as a president
I love how only now they are locked in committee meeting to resolve this. They are now winding in their egos and race rhetoric and get the "veterans" back to fix the electricity. Let's get real these are old white engineers that were voted the best power station in the early 2000s guys. They have been willing to help and pass their knowledge on for years.
But they were sidelined by these crooks
Everyone is getting played, including you guys. I see EVERY skin color running in the courts and the banks
Well spoken by our former president, we really don't need foreign investment to solve this problem
Ummm... didn't all the electricity kak start under his tenure? I seem to remember he even apologized for not acting when white paper was given to him... Seems even he has forgotten.
He is correct about the leadership vacuum. Not a single person I can think of worth a vote. Nor a good place to be but the world seems to lack proper leadership.
What is the point of slamming the leadership get rid of them NOW
We need a effective leadership who has solutions to the country's problems effectively ANC has to be removed the not working
We citizens will make sure of this
The ANC have abandoned a sinking ship. None are to be seen as the waves get closer.
Now we see them for what they are.
The ANC must go!
The Somaliland, Ethiopians asked him,he opened the door for them, their populations is ridiculous.I am an African.
Valleys, rivers, canals,proteas, plants,trees, mountains roads and everything is for an African 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
2024 rest in peace ANC⛏⚰🕇👏👏
We will remember the words of a wise Bantustan leader "Lucas Mangope"who was wise than all this ANC leaders combined!What he built was destroyed by the ANC!
The problem is we don't have proper Leadership,there's no change in this Country and it's really sad
Little do people know that Mbeki is the same guy who tried to privatize eskom but failed
Guilt has got him
In hindsight, that wouldn't have been such a bad idea
To save public purse
And part of that "attempt" (lol) included forbidding Eskom from building out more generating capacity that they and anyone else with half a brain could anticipate would soon be needed.
Maybe it was relevant at the time.
@@lesegomabiletsa6458 no idiot he was ousted by Zuma and malema faction
The only way this country will see improvement is if all our leaders step down and we elect new and young politicians who will come with new ideas but the dinosaurs in power would rather S.A go deeper down the sink hole than the stepping down
Does anyone remember when they were on a campaign to change names of cities, towns, streets and airports? And they thought that will magically transform the country into a "world class African country"! Well, maybe they can try to change back the names of the cities back to what they were called when we had electricity and boom, the lights will be back on! Well, they will not because they steal better when the lights are off!
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Exactly 💯🤝
Changing names doesn't help 🤞🇿🇦
Which times are you talking about? The times when the whites had everything and blacks dignity was nothing? Even if you are talking about post-apartheid South Africa, whites names for streets do not correlate a bit with this situation. You're speaking bullshit!
Lol🤣🤣🤣yeah.south africans tryna erase colonialism and apartheid memories .while we have problems that should be prioritized .
He is the man who allowed labour brokers and our pple are being exploited
He had his chance,and missed it,he must shut up now
Thabo mbeka is one of the anc Veterans whom won't be celebrated by the people when he passes but his colleagues,
all this man ever does is talk and talk down on SA citizens while elevating other ethnicities... him and Tutu always been a cancer to bantu freedom and development. thank God for RUclips and old tapes of apartheid times,
and I've studied this man an he has never change his tone since apartheid.
Mxm Mr mbeki u have ur own agenda wena, the new leadership is not giving you access to steal money
We need leaders like mbheki
"Mbeki admitted last month his government should have heeded pleas by Eskom several years ago to invest more in electricity generation to keep up with the country’s economic growth.
“When Eskom said to the government: ‘We think we must invest more in terms of electricity generation’, we said no, but all you will be doing is just to build excess capacity,” he said in a speech.
“We said not now, later. We were wrong. Eskom was right. We were wrong.”"
That was on the MyBroadband website in 2008
Great leadership when he was the one that started the massive crisis that we are experiencing at the moment.
millions of people died because of his AIDS denial policies. He was the better one out of Zuma, Motlanthe and Ramaphosa, but he wasn't a "good" leader per se.
Like how? Root canal dentistry?
He is of no use at all,still unable to comprehend that he was part of the problem and his lack of action also compounded the disaster we face now.The man is pathetic, as are all his ANC cronies.
Taking us for a ride. President for ten years but still taking like somebody who wants us to believe that he can do something different. 🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣How clever Mbeki is now blaming people on things that he also failed to fix himself what a useless guy
Exactly my point, he is acting like he was the best president, the rot of this country started with Mandela, he is also one of the architects of this rot!!!
He was the best president we ever had next to Madibe,they removed him because he wasn't corrupt and installed the most corrupt president for 10 years who raped and pillaged eskom SAA and every single Soe
#ANCMUSTFALL
It should've fell a long time ago
Please Lord
At this stage everyone in SA is leading themselves!
He was not better either, his Administration failed dismally on HIV/AIDS
MBEKI should join the only party that's South Africans hope to fix the double we are in & it won't be easy he cry about electricity everything is destroyed by ANC police Hospitals roads jobs electricity the money getting looted by the day in the ANC & those the ANC put in power of jobs to serve us but they only serve themselves not caring about our future our children this is why I will never get kids no further only D.A can rebuild D.A but I don't see the people wanting to help S.A &' the future ✌️
Thug calling out other Thugs, same wagon, we are being made fools here.
the last decent president..... good times
ANC _Apartheid National Congress....
Mr Mbeki plz come back and b our president
I know Old president Thabo mbeki is very good
However he reacted quite to the creation of new power stations even though the idea was ok
Slams current leadership mmm what's that helping should be in jail.
Speak up Mbeki, speak up about your colleague gangster Jacob and his mafia associates Guptas, SPEAK up how they brought eskom to it's knees,, SPEAK UP don't hide behind nonsense talk, just like ramaposa
Can Mbeki stop talking and just agitate for his return to government. We know his analysis and insight is accurate but the county needs him to come back and run government!
And repeat the mistakes that he made on Aids and the prohibition on new expansion at Eskom in the 2000's? We are facing this crisis because he started us on the road to ruin.
Besides his unsuitability to lead SA due to his abject failures (which may have been less abject than what came after him, but a failure he remains), he is constitutionally incapable of becoming president again as he has already served two terms.
True.he can do better this time but return under another party no under the anc .he should join other parties to rebuild sa
We the citizens are to blame we don't want to account to anything..60% of us is not paying electricity .
THIS GUY IS A LOT OF TALK , he had 2/3 majority , but did nothing
"For failing to be proactive"... says the exact guy who forbade Eskom from building out new capacity that anyone with half a brain could anticipate (in the early 2000s) would soon be needed.
When Zuma was a president we had loadsheding and u did not say anything
There should be an unwritten code here for former presidents, it works like that in other climes. A former president has access to whoever he wants to talk to in the country if he really wants to share something he considers very important.
This way he's going is littered with torns because it's geared towards self glorification than anything. This approach has never solved anything before. There's no possibility that it will solve anything now. What I see here is the unnecessary drama that's about to ensue.
He must stop talking like he was not part of the decision makers at the time.
Stating the obvious. He was a poor leader anyway but to look for the positives at least Jan van Riebeck wasn’t accused.
Even FW,Verwoed,Botha, ETC
Hello this guy what is talking about he is the one cause all this he was a president at the time mlambo was minister of energy when eskom tell her they needed money because ten years down the is going to be electric problem he refuse says the will never be when it happened he says sorry he must not blaming the current leadership he is number one on all this problem we facing why blaming others he must blame himself too
We have loadshedding cause of his devilish decisions, so now he's blaming others forgetting that he is the cause of Eskom failure.
Which ones are those?
Isn't he part of the vacuum
To all the people in the world 🌎 South Africa was better under T Mbeki, l still miss him never this negative stories and corruption under his term when Zuma came to the seat all sit start
He is just like the rest of them. Don’t fall for it.
Look up who forbade Eskom from building out new generating capacity when they came to him in the late 1990s / early 2000s with plans to do so and why they needed to start then.
Amen Morris. Zuma was the worst thing that ever happened to us..what a shame we are
Hypocrite. He was the one that stopped development
This guy can't help us he needs to rest he is way too old. Only us young people can solve OUR problems
You young people can solve the problem? That's so funny...you are the problem!
@@fcarstens6161 exactly! only we can solve our own problems, old people must just go enjoy retirement and die in peace
says a guy who gave us Zuma....
Shame on you.
go back further CHANCELOR HOUSE!
His wife is a billionaire 😛
I love Mbeki
Duh
Please help us Mbeki, the country is in crises.
Bla bla bla ....
With due respect Mbekis administration was far better than his counterpart. The only misdemeanor under his administration was the fact that a lot of people died as a results of Hiv/Aids and he would have done a lot better had he not reason as if he was the scientist. Other than his administration was far much better.
@@isaacmathebula8051 Please enlighten me...what did Mr Mbekis Administration..do during his tenure....??
He inherited a performing economy of 4.2% on average, high performing eskom...and he could not take advantage of the environment...He is the Father of loadshedding...he could not produce any clear economic policy to take this country forward...
He talks too much he failed to run the country
you were in their shoes and you fail,now you talking too much
This guy is again fooling you
l
The ANC have abandoned a sinking ship. None are to be seen as the waves get closer.
Now we see them for what they are.