Women and Slavery in the New Testament and Early Church: Dr. Lynn Cohick
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Lynn H. Cohick earned her PhD in NT and Christian Origins from the University of Pennsylvania. She is distinguished professor of NT at Houston Christian University, and director of the Houston Theological Seminary. She has written commentaries on Ephesians and Philippians, and books on women in the NT, including Christian Women in the Patristic World and Women in the World of the Earliest Christians. In this conversations, we talk about Lynn's latest research on freed female slaves in the New Testament world and how this shapes our reading of the household codes, and also the role and impact that women had on the church in the first few hundred years of Christianity. Register for the Austin conference on sexualtiy (Sept 17-18) here: www.centerforf... Register for the Exiles 2 day conference in Denver (Oct 4-5) here: theologyinther...
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This was great! Dr. Cohick is awesome.
Great interview Preston and Dr Cohick!
Such an engaging conversation. Thank you!
1:12:04 when I hear people bring up the issue of “God wants order,” my first thought is: so does that mean a women teaching and leading can only lead to disorder? Why would that be the case if “male and female He created them” in His own image.
I love the point she made about how Aristotelian philosophy and the Mass shaped church thinking throughout history. My orthodox friends don’t think woman are forbidden from teaching or are inferior. They just are obsessed with following precedents. Women weren’t priests in the early or medieval church, so it’s improper to stray from that pattern because their identity is in being the unchanged original Church.
Deborah is the precedent.
Men and women are perfectly equal spiritually. She was a pastor, according to the scriptures. This is how the Judges are described in Chronicles, by God.
In all places where I have walked with all Israel, have I spoken a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd My people, saying, ‘Why have you not built Me a house of cedar?’
-excerpt 1 Chronicles 17 verse 6 NASB translation
A Judge was cleared to teach from scripture as he/she gave a verdict, according to Deuteronomy. Since in Judges 4, men went to Deborah to be judged, a woman could teach men, even in the Old Covenant in a public setting.
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@@user-iz8np3vv4i I agree with you. But the Orthodox are big in church history precedents, not just biblical ones. Listen to an orthodox liturgy or lecture. They’re big on quoting Church Fathers, all of whom happened to not promote ordaining women. John Chrysostom is quoted most often from what I notice, and this is what he had to say:
“When one is required to preside over the Church and to be entrusted with the care of so many souls, the whole female sex must retire before the magnitude of the task…”
In so many ways, church history is a series of disappointments. Not one church father took a minority position?
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Because they were followers of Paul. Paul with teachings
all over the place. Two or more were serious false teachings.
That is a separate essay.
It’s simply false that women weren’t priests in medieval times and the early church. There’s actually a long list of them that we have found through archaeology and writings. There’s possibly even a few bishops that were women although they are a little more difficult to be certain. Kevin Madigan and Carolyn Osiek go over the evidence for pre-500ish AD in their book on ordained women and Gary Macy has one on ordained women in medieval times.
At 3:59 Dr. Cohick says that she sees the LXX translation as less important in the discussion because of the inherent nature of translations and she asked Dr. Sprinkle for more info on why he puts more emphasis on the LXX. He didn’t respond, though. Maybe when he is more prepared they will be able to have a conversation on the topic.
Preston: Carolyn Osiek and Kevin Madigan. _Ordained Women in the Early Church: A Documentary History_
Yes, Kevin Madigan is not available for interviews but Dr. Osiek would be great.
Andrew Bartlett's book "Men and women in Christ" is the definitive book on the issue of women in the church.
Also Kevin Giles book on women is soo good.
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