8 Secrets To Longer Forehands in Ultimate Frisbee
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
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As a basketball player who obsesses with every body mechanic involved in shooting a basketball, this video’s breakdown of each mechanic, both at wind up, at release, and post release, is exactly the kind of video I’ve been looking for to make a jump in my fourth summer season of frisbee. Thank you!
Thanks Jonathan! Basketball players make absolutely unstoppable ultimate frisbee players, from what I've seen. Being effective in the air, winning jousts, and the lateral agility are all basketball strengths which seem to transfer over nicely. Glad you like the forehand breakdown. I'm working on the backhand video now. It's taking weeks because the two are surprisingly different, and my backhand is nothing special. But I have a plan to account for that and still deliver something exciting for you guys.
@@ryanlowe6243 can't wait!
@@JonathanPaek hey man just published the backhand pulling video! ruclips.net/video/CDGubTf3EWU/видео.html
As a disc golf player who's lost their forehand distance, this video is phenomenal
I love your videos. I love how in depth they are and how well you teach the mechanics of throwing. I will definitely watch more of you videos. Keep up the good work
You are literally the best teacher. I am in the eighth grade and my coach cannot throw anything but backhand. Before I watched your video, I was the best at forehand in my team. I could pull it about 45 meters, And now, It goes well past 60! Thanks so much!
Thanks Shaurya! That's a massive forehand by the way good work!!
Ryan Lowe Thanks!
Please do a video for backhand
Hey Sam here's the backhand video! ruclips.net/video/CDGubTf3EWU/видео.html
youre a great teacher!!
I love your videos man they’re very authentic!
Thanks for the kind words Carson! Much appreciated.
This video is underrated. Those camera shots were beautiful.
Thanks!
I've know how to through a four hand for a while now but I've had a hard time teaching others. Watching this video is definitely going to help. thank you!
You're welcome! For beginners, the I. O. Drill in the Ultimate Forehand Training Video is as foolproof a system as I can think of for teaching forehands. That is, getting beginners to exaggerate the downward angle of release and incrementally scaling up the distance until they're surprising themselves with how far they're throwing. Have you tried the drill with your teammates? How is it going? If you don't have it yet, you can get The Ultimate Forehand Training Video here frisbeethrows.com/ for free.
Cheers bruv. Cool to watch your throw at the beginning again after learning how you put it together.
Thanks buddy!
Great video !! I started training /playing in Lisbon almost 2 months ago and I love it
Really fun to play :)
Thanks for the helpfull videos :)
I learn a lot of them !
great video
Subscribed bro, appreciated that.
Thanks for the sub!
Californication Intro from Slane and that tatoo, guess you're my new favourite ultimate youtuber!
Thanks man! That was a miraculous coincidence. People just hang out in the stands of that soccer field, playing music on their phones. Maybe someone was watching that Slane castle concert. Either way, a portentous moment :)
I'm french, playing ultimate since 1 year and i love this sport, i want to improve myself a lot.
This video is perfect for me.
Thanks Gatien, so happy the video helped you!
Good luck with that Gatien
Tiembla Brodie
Good stuff
Hey man, your videos are AMAZING! Up to this point all I had to show people was some really crappy Brodie Smith Videos that didn't really get enough into the mechanics. This is gonna help so much with my college team next year, thank you thank you thank you!!!!
Thanks man! If you guys have any specific questions along the way feel free to reach out!
Detail good
Hey, I've got some questions comments if interested! For my flick hucks, I rotate the disc on the tip of my middle finger and really push forwards with the webbing of my thumb joint, which gets me a bunch of extra spin and power because it's another link in the kinetic chain. Similar motion to turning a doorknob, with fingers pointing at the sky. Tight core is super important too. I generate most of my power with my forearm and really pulling through with it, but I'll be sure to experiment around with the things in this video, especially arm position. Thanks a bunch!
Bro, you saved my as*. I was getting frustrated why my throws kept of curving, and not leveling out.
Happy it worked for ya!
John Fruciante in the background
Red Hot Chili Peppers Tattoo and Slane Castle playing in the background.... Damn
Nooo dont throw cigarettes on the ground lol thanks for the great vid man and bangin music
Ha true! It's the worst when people throw cigarettes on the ground.
Have you tried doing an x step instead of a crossover to load up more rotation in your shoulders? (Stepping behind instead of in front with your right foot)
Interesting! No I haven't tried that, but you're right that I'd get more shoulder rotation that way. I'll try that next time I'm out!
Do you have any tips for a middle schooler who is just starting in a league?
Seems simple, but buy a disc and make friends with someone who likes throwing with you, then throw with them at school during breaks. The number of hours you'll stack up will contribute MASSIVELY to your throwing skills and make you a better player in games.
Rob I have a question concerning throwing long forehand. Is there a "flick" involved in the throw??? As I watched your vid, it looks like you're throwing the disk as you would a baseball or a football.
There's a ton of wrist snap at the very last moment but no, there isn't a conscious "flick" action if I understand what you mean by that. Sometimes I see people exaggerating the flick motion by also attempting to pull their arm back at the last second, like a whip. I believe it's better to develop wrist snap and follow through.
@@ryanlowe6243 You've answered my question perfectly. Yes, how you answered my question is correct and exactly what I meant; if there is a conscious flick when throwing long distance as you would when throwing short or medium distance. Now I have a better understanding of throwing a long distance forehand. Mahalo much for replying back Ryan. Aloha from Hilo, Hawaii !!!
Saw frisbee rob’s analysis of your backhand vid, where can I view that one?
Hey Carson, I'm still working on that backhand video, but I'll let you know when it's up! Rob's advice for my throw was spot on, and there's a lot for me to change in my throw. I want to make sure I've accounted for all of his technical adjustments, so I have a bit of work to do before I can publish. I'll post the link here when it's ready.
Okie!
You'll want to add an addendum where the throwing hand foot is forward, because that is how we generally release forehands in Ultimate.
I second that. Especially when throwing forehand hucks. Go watch all the great throwers in club or AUDL. In their wind-up they step to the back (right foot) and then forward to generate more distance. IMO (with 32 years of ultimate) the second most important clue, after dropping down the edge.
Good video, one thing though, lift is not generated underneath. It is generated on the top because the air travels faster to get back together after being split by the disc and the disc turns over due to precession of the focus of lift caused by the, as you mentioned, the difference in drag between the oncoming and retreating shoulders of the disc as it flies. I watched the backhand video too, nice job!
Oh crazy! I had no idea lift was generated above the disc... my whole life I've conceptualized lift as coming from below. My understanding is the air above the disc, moving faster gets "spaced out" and less dense, so there's a difference in pressure (less above the disc, more below) and so the result is a disc that moves up. Would this not mean that lift the result of forces above AND below the disc?
@@ryanlowe6243 you are correct, Poppageno's description of lift is a common misconception of how air behaves. There's nothing making the air "speed up" to meet up with itself again at the end of the disc. Lift is all about pressure differences!
@@joaolima3213 Thanks João for the insight, I really don't know anything about lift on a fundamental level.... just what I read on Wikipedia before doing the video haha!
Hey man do you have Percy’s excavatum (sunken chest)? I’m just wondering because I do too and I’m wondering how to develop a solid chest with it. Thabks
Pectus*
@@patrickbrady5457 Hey man, ya I do (or at least I think so, a doctor friend thought I did anyway). Solid chest huh... well honestly you can always do a bunch of bench pressing and explosive pushups if you want to build your pectorals. This will give your chest more size, but it will still be sunken in the middle where the muscle meets bone (like mine is).
I actually had a bodybuilder friend say he didn't mind the look of a sunken chest if the person also has strong pecs because it's kind of like man cleavage, makes the pecs look bigger than they really are haha. More shadow maybe, I'm not sure.
But if your concern is to be more attractive, I'd say work on "functional strength" and your chest will become more muscular in the process. I own an olympic bar and bumper plates for olympic-style powerlifting in my backyard.
By building olympic lifting into your routine, your entire body will become more powerful while becoming more physically attractive. By doing compound lifts (single leg and double leg back squats, deadlifts, power cleans, front squats, pistol squats etc) as well as bodyweight work like burpees, plyometric jumps and wide grip pull-ups (aiming for muscle-ups eventually) your whole body will become more athletic-looking, powerful and muscular. From a confidence standpoint (which is really what we're talking about here), it's more important to know you're capable of lifting 300 lbs than it is to see big pecs when you look in the mirror.
Nobody cares about my chest, they care about what I can do, and what kind of person I am.
I used to spend a lot of time worrying about how my chest looked worse than other guys. I'm still envious of guys with chests that barrel out. Those guys are blessed with great ribcages. But those same guys have insecurities. A big chested buddy of mine once told me he was jealous of my big feet because he has tiny feet. As a swimmer, this was a disadvantage for him and hurt his performance.
Work out, get stronger, be good to people and your confidence will grow. Eventually you'll forget you even have a sunken chest.
Start training today. I've written a post about getting stronger with bodyweight exercises you can do until you get access to weights: frisbeethrows.com/ultimate-frisbee-workout-make-you-unstoppable/
Thanks man I really appreciate that. Also, I’m looking to try out and make University of Oregon’s club ultimate team next fall and Im pretty decent at throwing forehand backhand, I’m okay at the hammer. But I have a dad bod and don’t have the athleticism to compete at a higher level. Im willing to work hard to become more athletic and a better ultimate player. Can you point me in the right direction?
@@patrickbrady5457 Wow RUclips cropped most of my reply! I had included several paragraphs in my reply and only the first one was actually posted. If you want to make the club team you need to play your ass off this summer. Club teams, at least where I live, practice several times each week and play tournaments on weekends. That's a ton of frisbee. You'll lose fat and gain muscle if you crank up your athletic output like that - so do everything you can to get onto several teams for as many nights of the week as you can through the summer. In my little town of 80k people we have a strong league with the option to play 3 nights per week (Tue, Wed, Thu). If you lived here I'd say play ulti those 3 consecutive nights, and run as hard as you can every night, in sprints. When playing, stop jogging around like everyone else and create big variation between your speeds. You're either barely running or sprinting full out. This will make you a more valuable player and a more explosive athlete. You'll be harder to cover if you can get from walking to top speed in a few strides. I've created an ultimate-specific workout that is designed to make you incredibly explosive. This type of training will also build muscle and burn fat far more dramatically than low intensity cardio. Give it everything you've got. Here's the workout: frisbeethrows.com/ultimate-frisbee-workout-make-you-unstoppable/ Don't ever give yourself more than 2 days of consecutive rest this summer. So whatever days you're not playing ultimate, those are training days. Overtraining is not a problem until you're pissing brown - and if you get to that level you've proven you're an absolute machine and the club team will have a real hard time passing you up. I'd go so far as to treat the "game days" as rest days and train on all other days. It's about contrast. Work yourself to the bone and allow yourself to rest really well during your time off for the rest of the day. My blog post above addresses recovery, take that extremely seriously as it's when you actually get your gains. Protect your sleep, and your sobriety. You can get drunk and high with your friends every weekend, or you can get onto that club team, but you can't have both. Good luck man, I'm very interested in whether or not you make the team so please keep me updated throughout the summer!
Two other things that will stack the odds in your favour: 1) track your training with a calendar. Simply mark days you've successfully trained or played ultimate with an X and hang the calendar somewhere where you see it all the time. So it stares you in the face. 2) Put money on it. Bet 5 friends you'll make the team this fall, $20 each. This way you're personally responsible to those 5 friends, who will actually be rooting for you, you'll be more compelled to work hard AND you'll be more likely to train so you don't lose that $100! When you make the team, use the $100 to celebrate with those 5 friends as a thank you for their support.
What frisbee are you using ?
It's an Ultra-Star (www.discstore.com/discraft-ultra-star) with my league logo on it (Peterborough Ultimate League)
Where is this?
Looks like an island
Ecuador
I’m here so I can be MVP in gym class hbu guys
bruh same
Where do you live now? :)
Peterborough, Ontario, Canada
Not quite sure of a the usefulness pulling with your forehand in competitive play.. Pretty sure the backhand will ALWAYS go further if you have proper mechanics for pulling.. Plus you can have more touch and accuracy with the backhand..
I played with a worlds player from BC ten years ago. His flick was so crazy he could put his pull anywhere without running up.
I reason why u throw it so far is because u have tattoos
Travel
In 30 some years of competing I have never seen anyone use a forehand for a great pull. distance yes, time aloft - not so much. I disagree with most of the "secrets".
Right!
I have. Free throws are more accurate when shot granny style. Not saying forehand is better for pulling, just saying it may be. Stay curious.
You've never seen Ken Westerfield then.