SONGS THAT DIDN'T HOLD UP (or did)
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- We check out 8 classic songs and discuss whether or not they held up.
Limp Bizkit - Break Stuff
Attack Attack! - Stick Stickly
The Offspring - Pretty Fly (For A White Guy)
Chunk! No Captain Chunk! - In Friends We Trust
311 - Come Original
Angels & Airwaves - The Adventure
Paramore - Misery Business
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Knock Me Down
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Judging by some of your reactions I think you aged horribly bro 🤣🤣🤣
Fun fact: The voice “Geunter Gleiben Glauchen Globen” at the start of rock of age by Def Leppard (and by extension Pretty fly for a white guy) is that of Mutt Lange. With this outta the way, I dig your content Finn, keep it up!
I feel the same way about the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Hated Californication. Loved their earlier stuff. Blood, Sugar, Sex Magic is a classic album.
This is kind of fun. Might have to come over to check you out on Twitch.
"Pretty Fly" is a staple now on classic rock fm stations..*hurl*
"Fred Durst is a great director" *watches his movies* "Fred Durst is a great music video director"
The education of Charlie banks is a great movie
The Travolta one is great too but for other reasons. It's what you call gesamptkunstwerk of cringe supreme
The Fanatic is a solid 6/10 comedy.
His overall description of Break Stuff leaves out a major point. This song, the band & the singer are all something that you like or you dislike. There's not really any middle ground. And it's not really a place you want to be...
Pretty fly for a white guy was a joke song...
The offspring are great.
exaclty. this dudes opinions suck loll
For real this dude said this band is awful?
Offspring fuck hard, but the whole "it's a joke!" Defense is lame. I love the song because it's so goofy and corny, but that doesn't mean other people can't dislike it because it's a joke. Intent doesn't deflect criticism
I thought it was satirizing/aping contemporary culture.
@@cultreader9751 something you don’t see these days… The Offspring fucking Rock. One of the best bands of all time.
I feel like Finn was just taking Pretty Fly for a White Guy too seriously, like the whole song and video was just supposed to be silly lol
Agreed.
Yeah I fcking love this song. Makes me feel 7 in 2001 again
Just cause something is meant to be silly doesnt mean it cant still be bad or extremely corny. Its like saying black metal is meant to be abrasive and shitty so you cant criticize its abrasive shittiness or compare it to more serious, contemporary genres
@@moko9hoko right but there’s something to be said about missing a clear gag lol
@@moko9hoko the difference is that The Offspring has serious songs and better songs than "Pretty Fly". It makes no sense to write off the entire band for that one song, especially when they have other well known songs.
Oh, and not all Black Metal sounds like the early 90s Norwegian bands. There is well-produced Black Metal.
Dawg The Offspring is absolutely legendary.
Yes!!!!
I agree!
Until they kicked out their drummer
I don't know how anyone could hear "the kids aren't alright" and not feel some kind of a way... I don't like The Offspring much, not my style, but I could never say they weren't a good band after hearing that song all of those years ago... And even still hearing it today. The message is amazing, the chorus is amazing... Hell the whole song is just amazing and almost kind of beautiful in a way. Cathartic
No. They suck.
"Pretty Fly For A White Guy" was a parody song about the white Hip-Hop guys of that Era and how ridiculous they looked & sound and the fact people never got the joke was very disappointing because Listeners don't listen to the lyrics.
I like the band but hate that song as its pure cheese and reached no1 on the UK Top 40 pop chart. I hated it then and even more since.
The Kids aren't alright however was much better 😉👍
Yep agree you folks. Good band, but this was a throwaway joke song. The Kids Aren't Alright was from the same LP and a brilliant, haunting and unforgettable tune.
Yes, this song and video were 💯 intended to be cringy! This song does not take itself seriously. The layers man, they are there.
@@Jambr380 jambr380 that's the truth The Offspring always have one or two joke songs on their Albums i agree he totally missed the point of the joke for the love of God the song is called " Pretty Fly For A White Guy" LOL
@@Jambr380
I wish he would have listened to any other song but this one. The offspring are one of my top 5 favorite bands.
I think the Offspring hate is a cover up. When no one is around Finn listens to them on full blast.
The Offspring is legit. That's just one silly song they put out that was meant to be silly.
Finn defending the white guy in the video tells you everything you need to know. Dude's whole thing is about being a business major about anarchist, anti-capitalist music genre, and talks up shitty pop punk bands that ruined the genres, and he's trying to gatekeep the only band that has actual punk, anarchist ethos?
@@Zimx02 damn, you good bro?
@@Zimx02 I get what you’re saying man he’s a total marketing fart and he’s tryna make his way as a trendsetting “influencer” I’m kind of hate watching this but I agree on some things
Dude Offspring is fucking awesome. And hell they didn't have a album in like 10 years and their new one killed it with multiple hits. Despite not making an album in a decade. They're talented as hell and Holland is awesome. Saw them in a concert a few years ago with TDG, Godsmack, etc and they were awesome.
Ppl joking in the chat about Attack Attack and The Offspring :”I hope this is what aliens find after humanity ends”
Tom Delong about Tom Delong :”I hope this is what aliens find after humanity ends.”
😂
Major plot twist, maybe aliens already found us and when they heard attack attack, they wanted to one up the humans and that's why a lot of deathcore/metalcore is over produced.
I also would pick Boxcar Racer over A&A but I do appreciate their vibe.
@@iletthedevilin828 even more major plot twist, Tom DeLonge is an alien...
@@crypticutopia7228 maybe he named his band angels are airwaves instead of aliens and airwaves so it wouldn't be too obvious
The entirety of Offspring’s “Smash” album is fantastic. And to be fair, I loved pretty fly as a kid.
Honestly offspring ignition in my opinion is a better album
Offspring Rocks. So many good songs. I don't think they meant for this song to be taken seriously. I think they were more just goofing around and ended up making a hit song.
Finn is off on is opinion on Offspring .
@@jmfernelius yeah it feels very tongue in cheek
@@billycoo7916 wayyyyy off. i made a comment about this and his only response was “what are you talking about? lmao”... you know what i’m talking about little finney
My only beef here is Pretty Fly is 0% representative of The Offspring. That album is filled to the brim with amazing songs with fantastic lyrics. I to this day have no clue what that song was doing on that album.
@@BVonBuescher K but you're not actually in the Punk Rock MBA channel
@@BVonBuescher How do you define most punk?
I think the song is kind of a joke. Lyrically its about a guy who sort of *doesnt* get it. "Friends say he's trying too hard and he's not quite hip
But in his own mind he's the, he's the dopest trip". Its about a white guy doing cringy shit trying to be a black stereotype.
@@SpicyBicycle Of course it's a joke, it's not a subtle one. But that doesn't make it any less of a cheesy song
@@hrotha if you bake with cheese, youre probably going to have cheese in it.
Proof that music is super subjective:
"Offspring is a horrible band."
"Hyper pop is the future."
Hahaha Finn is the best.
He’s right about those.
A truly appreciate that you appreciate music's subjectivity. (The subjectivity of all forms of art, for that matter.) I'm always fascinated by Fynn's disdain for one particular genre or trend relative to the stuff he's super stoked about. (The way you framed it was funnier, haha.)
I always say: "Like whatever you like, and to hell with everybody else's opinion."
No matter how corny limp bizkit may be, the bridge to break stuff will make anyone rage
Never forget, Woodstock ‘99!
@@TooEasyParanormal i was born like 3 months after that took place but i damn sure wish i could have been there! The sets for korn and limp bizkit looked nuts!
No.
@@JosephRivera588 damn.... makes me feel like I'm a fucking relic now
Limp music just immediately turns anyone hype
Limp Bizkit songs will always slam. Break Stuff especially.
Lol offspring doesn't even sound like pretty fly most of the time. It was a meme song before memes were popular
Absolutely, judging offspring by anything other than Smash and Ixnay is a sin. Hell, even Americana has Staring at the sun and The kids.
A handful of their songs aren't supposed to be taken seriously but I agree that Pretty Fly is kind of a failed attempt. I even think Why don't you get a job a funnier song
@@SergheiPopescu And No Brakes.
@@banditkeithkingofduelmonsters
No brakes is amazing!!!
@@SergheiPopescu nope nope wrong. Smash had come out and play, and Ixnay had I Choose (and fukken Don't Pick it Up :[ ). Americana is just as good of an album if not better, and pretty fly has better guitar work and more biting lyrics than their other meme songs.
Don't bend to the opinion of salty 'white guys' like Flinn. Be proud of Americana.
The Pretty Fly riff and guitar tone slays, the lyrics are on point and no one can deny it.
Limp Bizkit being starting to be socially accepted again has been really cool to witness. Their Lollapalooza appearance was fantastic!
I don't know where you get that info from, there pretty much irrelevant at this point it's not that there socially acceptable again, it's more like nobody cares about them except guys in there 40s that liked them to begin with and still think there edgy
@@nemesis8626 This comment is great because it's some loser who calls himself "Nemesis" with a skull banner calling other people edgy.
@Nemesis86 the revolver videos prove you're objectively wrong
@@nemesis8626 not exactly true.Right on about the "bro's" in their 40's but we now know he was marketing the whole thing and was his own hype man.And he still likes performing,not just dialing it in
@@nemesis8626ou obviously don’t get out much, all the mid 20s and younger kids seem to all love limp bizkit now. I couldn’t believe it either, but it’s true. Same with korn, slipknot, all those late ninety’s, 2000s numetal shit
Misery Business is still relevant. It basically is a gospel song for teens who grew up from 2008 to 2012
if Misery Business is a gospel song then Welcome To The Black Parade is scripture.
For scene/rock/alt teens anyway
That song is literally about being a whore and purposely ruining someone else's relationship to steal their man lol if that's gospel for the scene it speaks volumes about the people in it
Yeah, I was a teenager around that time and it's incredible how that song still relevant and holds up after all these years. It's one of the most streamed songs of Paramore in most digital platforms.
I use Misery Business and a stout cup of coffee to slap me out of my morning funk.
Genuinely believe that Pretty Fly is a genius song that still holds up imo. Lol
It’s intentionally cringey, lyrics still represent weird white guys today, AND it was a #1 hit that got them a bunch of money. Incredible
thats how phd brains work
Legit agree, and i personally hate the song lol
Yep. But this guy doesn't have a sense of humour. He'll never understand it was meant to be the way it is.
It’s a novelty song, but its humor is lost on typical morons.
Pretty Fly holds up specifically BECAUSE it's a Weird Al song that's Weird Al didn't write. The Offspring knew exactly what they were doing, and made a song that said everything that needed to be said before some dorky half-assed attempt from a nothing band got a 1-hit-wonder. like watch Watsky's Limo 4 Emo video as proof. even if you don't like Pretty Fly, or The Offspring, at the least game recognize game.
The offspring has a ton of good songs. But that song is a parody.
Literally everyone: “Hey dudes are you ready to…?”
All other lyrics:
Lmaooo to everyone who walked away and went " Hey, dudes are you ready to.? ? " to their dogs or something. I did LMAO
I was super disappointed that he worked on his accent during their hiatus. The cringe french accent was their main selling point lol
I looked up all the lyrics just because that was the only line I knew and it annoyed me. Guess I’m the only one.
Come on, dude! The offspring is awesome! They put so many kids into rock. I still love their sound to this very day. No shame 😂
My first rock album I listened to and fell in love was Americana by The Offspring. Before that only radio music. After Americana, it was Blink 182, New Found Glory, Jimmy Eat World, then more punkrocky bands, then some bands with some heavier sound like A Day To Remember, then some metal, screamo, melodic hardcore, Dance Gavin Dance etc. Still it all started with Americana some 20 years ago.
Yeah I think Finns in the minority here haha. The offspring is fun
True! Early Offspring and 311 is what bridged the gap from punk-rock-metal for me. The Offspring in their early days were awesome!
Anyway who doesn't think "come out and play" is worthy needs serious help
@@GastroCentrsVeseliba Dance Gavin Dance!
For me, it’s be video game/movie OST, then I’d latch on to your Three Days Graces, Linkin Parks, BMTH, I the Mighty, and Dance Gavin.
From ‘butt’ to post hardcore.
That snare sound was a 13-14"x 6" OCDP 24 ply snare with big like 3" diameter vents in it. Combine that with super tight bass drum with a sweep EQ and those late 90's Nu-Metal drums were the best.
@limelight81 definitely a big part of the appeal.
All the Nu Metal drummers got that from John Stainer. Helmet's snare sound is above all others.
Angels and Airwaves “The Adventure” always holds up. When I was in my darkest time and suicidal that song helped me so much. It really is a hopeful song and helps me now when I have a bad day. It’s beautiful.
Their first two albums always brings me to tears from the exact experience you’ve mentioned above. Those albums always help clear my head.
@@Automotive_Intervention all their albums
same. Angels and Airwaves are amazing and The Adventure was on repeat for a while during the time i felt suicidal.
It truly is a beautiful song. That intro riff is just gorgeous! And the drums in the verses will always be some of my favourite drum beats, period. Incredibly well produced too!
That album is apart of my DNA.
hates offspring, loves 311.... lol, Finn is the weirdest sometimes.
I know, right? That was a curve ball for me. I thought it would be the opposite.
#cgicartoonparrots make this a thing!
He's defending the wannabes throughout the video. It's easy. He could have been featured as the white guy in pretty fly.
Ya, and 311 moved to Los Angeles. They actually recorded I believe it was the Soundsystem album, at a studio that shared a chain link fence with my middle school in Burbank. There was a basketball hoop in the area that shared the fence and a lot of kids were stoked they would be playing basketball there on breaks and kids threw their backpacks over and got signatures. School staff made the field there off limits for a time, kinda weak. They were cool guys. They even put in their thanks section the kids at David Starr Middle School.
But I never liked their music. during PE one time I saw them playing some ball and yelled "311 SUCKS" and the 2nd singer in the band, idk what else to call him, flipped me off. It was a good day for me.
311>The Offspring
What about the entire "Smash" album from the Offspring? I think they were a great punk band for the most part 🤷♀️
"I'm just a sucker with no self esteem!"
Fearing many of these will be "guilty pleasure" songs..... 😂😂😂😂
Same.
Fearing the most of these will be guilty pleasure songs
Attack attack
The Offspring is what christian parents, who've never heard metal, think metal sounds like lol
damn that's tight, lol it fits way too well lol
This is a great series, keep doing these!!
Thank you!
As someone who loved the offspring as a kid, I just CANT hate this song, I had the greatest hits dvd as a kid and played the videos, especially this one all the time
It almost feels like Finn is taking the song too seriously. It's purposely silly to make fun of those kids who dressed like that.
Limp Bizkit's musicians most definitely hold up. Wes Borland and John Otto are so talented and clean
Fucking love Wes and his body makeup / costumes but the guy can't sing for shit. Saw him singing my way recently and came to appreciate Fred's voice 🤣
Don't forget Sam Rivers and DJ Lethal.
@@SergheiPopescu he sings in one of his site projects, black light burns, an it's great. At least recorded.
@@clothbooster didn't know that. I'll check it out
Wes is so underrated he is an incredible musician
That's one of my favorite RHCP tunes. The chorus is awesome. Mother's Milk is such a great album.
It’s garbage, with an AWFUL cover too.
Did not know Fred directed all of their videos, props to him for that he did a fantastic job.
He's also got a movie or two out that he directed.
@LESTERAMA Wow that's crazy
He also directed a movie. That was super terrible. Had John travels in it
The first snare hit from "Got the life" still gives me goosebumps and it's all about that sound. Late 90's-00's drums were fucking awesome!
Late nineties - zero zeros? 😂
It's called:
two thousands = 2000s.
I loved the offspring when I was a young teenager but mostly the albums before Americana. They started sounding different and more commercial with that album and although it has nostalgia value for me, I agree it's not the best. But early Offspring? That was pretty bomb
Offspring have faced that criticism with their every album. People didn't like Smash for being "too commercial" too. It wasn't really until RAFRAG where they really changed their sound and never came back.
I love Conspiracy of One though
@@CrisHaasbro Same! Conspiracy Of One is my favorite sound that they ever had. Songs like Dammit I Changed Again, Living In Chaos, Million Miles Away and the title track are heavy and dark compared to much of their other work. I also really love Come Out Swinging, it's one of my ALL TIME favorite Offspring songs.
@@Zimx02 Really? Smash isn't commercial sounding at all! (Except for Come Out And Play and What Happened To You.) The rest of the songs were heavy af! With breakdowns and everything. Ixnay was way more commercial sounding, with twangy guitars and Dexter singing super high notes in Gone Away and I Choose.
Beat offspring albums?
Boxcar Racer is one of the best albums I’ve ever heard. Every song is great. And the song elevator is pretty much a blink 182 song cause mark is in it lol
I feel like Stick Stickly making no sense is the best part though
It would be a bit disingenuous to act as though ‘Pretty Fly For A White Guy’ represents The Offsprings catalogue as a whole. On a couple instances, you’ve mentioned the offspring and jumped to this tune as a representation. That song is absolutely terrible. So bad. But they have a lot of other tunes not even in the same realms that are decent.
Nope, song is great. Yeah, song doesn't sound like 90% the offspring, but their sarcastic parody singles in clear disdain for the public are an important part of their catalogue. People forget that Come Out and Play is another beloved joke song. Butthurt yipipo trying to downplay the song can sit on a spike.
@@Zimx02 pretty fly for a white guy is sonically cringe and terrible. I could care less what it’s trying to do. Come out and play at least sonically works.
FINALLY, a cogent, articulate rebuttal! I had to pause the video just to laugh at all the butthurt Offspring fans. But what you stated is spot on, and I absolutely agree.
My heart sank when I saw this begin with Break Stuff and I was ready to make a case for it still being relevant. Glad to see that wasn't the case! Seriously, even the lyrics are so simple yet they perfectly capture the dumb violence of being pissed off, and isn't that what metal should be all about?
Anyone who still doesn't feel that drop I fear for
It's fair to dislike Kiedis as a person (yeah its personally been hard to like the man after learning about that whole kidnapping thing aswell). But as a musician I don't get. He writes all the lyrics to their songs and sings/raps them as well as you'd expect any one can. Without Keidis, just like Flea, there is no rhcp.
Edit: It's been a while since I've read up on the story, but Keidis didn't just self-admitedly commit kidnapping but also statutory ---- aswell. Real sick stuff.
Man I never actually knew kiedis done a kidnapping
nevermind I do remember reading it I don't actually Think he kidnapped her I think it was more or less her following them around wanting sex with kiedis they ended up taking her back to her parents that is if I remember correctly
Kiedis is a world class....... POS for that entire situation.
Bilmuri is sooooo underrated. Beartooth is also amazing
Bruh, Smash is one of the best pop punk albums of all time tho
Ixnay is pretty fucking good too
Eh
This is from Americana though.
I love Smash.
But some of the singles in the late 90's where very cheesy.
@@dennisvanopstal7360This comment was more towards his comments on the general band
@@abelsanchez2070 i understood that completly.
Really like the Offspring
Really dislike this aong and Americana
I love the offspring, smash is one of the best albums ever made, come at me! Lol
Should do Stacy's Mom if you do this series again
I’m a huge fan of fountains of Wayne n that song is good but they got WAY more good shit imo that go way harder than that one
That song is timeless.
No because milfs and mommy Milkies will always be relevant
Maybe she’s still got it going on though🤷🏻
I'd do Stacy's mom
I friggin love Paramore so much. To this day still in my top 5 most played artists. If not THE top.
The Offspring have some amazing songs, but yeah they've also had some stinkers.
And Pretty Fly wasn't one of them. All the white guys trying to downplay this song will not be tolerated.
Come Original is a classic and the Offspring are also a classic band. Saw both 311 and Offspring live five years ago and they were amazing.
I love the big ping snare. I feel like Joey Jordison got me into that sound
Oh man!
Funny how people hate it cuz if St. Anger but love it in slipknot.
The only song on this entire list that I would listen to on purpose is pretty fly lmao.
I don't know how this happened, but the best drummers and bassists came from nu-metal.
Makes sense to me, the whole genre is about the rhythm section and groove.
No way, jazz bassists, Jaco Pastorious, much better players. Check out Stu Hamm
It actually makes sense since nu metal as a hip-hop influenced genre puts more emphasis on the groove and rhythm rather than guitar skills (which is more typical of oldschool metal). Rhythm section is what provides that in the first place (hence it is called 'rhythm section'), and it includes bass and drums.
Or just metal in general.
One commendable thing that nu metal did was pumping up the bass volume in the mix
Glad to see you giving 311 props! Come Original holds up though. When they play it live the crowd lights up.
Our time finally arrived 🙌
Come Original and Homebrew walked so Down could soar.
But Come Original came last of those three...
311 in my top 5, along with a few other bands Finn hates 🤣
Yea boi! 311
It's heartbreaking to see how bad Offspring got because Smash is legitimately one of the best albums of all time.
Love smash.
Better to burn out than fade away case
Americana is just as good if not better. Pretty Fly isn't a worse song than Come Out and Play, and Americana has a lot more to say on the whole than Smash.
@@Zimx02 Come Out and Play may be the worst song on Smash, but Pretty Fly is likely the worst song in all of rock history. This is a hill I'll die on. Smash isn't just The Offspring's best record, it's an all-time all-artists great record. You can disagree, and that's okay.
Yeeeeesssss
Fred Durst can't be KoЯny, he's Limp Bizkity
I'm rollin' rollin' rollin' on the floor laughing
You might say he's doughy.
You got me tearing up, behind blue eyes.
Y’all makin me wanna justify rippin someone’s head off!
Misery Business is a banger and a scene classic. It absolutely holds. Hayley Williams is beyond amazing!
Yup. For an album made in 2007/2005 (somewhere around there) it is a solid album that DEFINITELY holds up. The video, the album, the songs, it really does
I'm not the biggest Chili Peppers fan, but this is my favorite song by them, along with Breaking the Girl, Aeroplane, Warped, and Soul to Squeeze.
@limelight81 yeah I'm one. For me predominantly Mother's Milk, One Hit Minute, Uplift Mofo Party Plan
All their stuff is great! I haven't always thought this, but after listening to all their albums including the ones from the last 10 years, they are one of the most fascinating bands on earth because of how well their quality in newer music is. They are always fresh with new stuff even though they are about to hit their 60's.
@@christophernash8166 Flea and Chad combo is just too strong, I like how they started adding some odd time signatures into their mix in recent albums (Ethiopia, Dreams of a Samurai)
@ghost mall I’m the same, pre californication 100%. Not a fan of the direction they took the band when they went with a more pop oriented sound
I've NEVER heard so much dissing on The Offspring in my life 😖 they don't take themselves, or the music, seriously. That's the whole point 🤦🏻♀️
I’m thankful for attack attack because without them we would have never gotten johnys solo project bilmuri.
His music is fantastic.
Ah man, Break Stuff even lyrically holds up. Lmao just showed this to my pop music loving coworker and he FREAKED OUT. He was like “I feel this in my bones”
Still love Stick Stickly. I think I watch this video like once a week, thanks to the RUclips algorithm and I am never disappointed. I still go WTF at all the transitions to the different styles, but can't stop watching
Damn that Offspring hate is rough. I can get hating on modern (last 20 years) Offspring but there is some killer stuff early on. Gotta love Ignition!
Man it makes me sad you think the offspring is a horrible band. Yes pretty fly for a white guy is cringe but man they have some really good albums( splinter).
He's absolutely nuts if he think the offspring are "awful". The song was meant to be silly and everyone jammed to it when it came out, and if you say you didn't your a liar imo.
@@codyscards6698 I mean I respect his opinion but I’m just not sure if he has checked out a lot of their discography because obviously this is a joke song .
I heard them 50000000 times about 27 years ago, i was in high school when smash came out
Not sure how Finn doesn’t realize pretty fly for a white guy is a joke song…
When I was a kid (in Bulgaria) when Pretty Fly was released it was insta the coolest song.
I feel like Finn making trouble with the Offspring is on par with the Offspring making trouble with bro-ness. Was he being serious??? Anyways, im done pooping.
I still think Ignition, Smash and most of Ixnay hold up to this day, Americana still had a few great songs but I swear to god they made a very conscious effort to put out the dumbest, cheesiest, most insufferable singles from then on
They were making fun that stuff in that song and video
Ignition is probably there best album but thats just my opinion
@@danehamilton3959 Joke or not, it was still a super cheesy song that they chose to release as the album's lead single. Which says a lot
@@hrotha that is true I understand what your saying
They've done that for all their albums lmao. Did you forget about Come Out and Play? Did you forget about I Choose? What's worse is that Pretty Fly is heavy as shit and just shits on white wannabes, and y'all acting like you're supposed to be embarrassed. The song rips and white guys downplaying the song get the rope.
It's funny how at age 38 I don't know most of these songs. Basically anything "mainstream" after 2004 or so is a complete blind spot for me. Anything newer (mainstream) that I've heard is because of my wife, and she's mostly into diva type pop and hip hop music, but even then most of her favorites have been around for over 10 or 15 years.
I ain't understood me any of the young'ns since nigh on old '05. Con sarn it! Whippersnappin Gen Zed!! But then, as a cranky Generation Xer of 48(!) I'll be dead soon. & the cyborg children will still be living. So the jokes on ME. As per usual...
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What are your thoughts on Enter Shikari - Sorry You're Not A Winner
I dont know how big they were in USA, but it europe they were way bigger then Attack Attack.
Enter Shikari is still killing it. {The Dreamer's Hotel} is fucking awesome!
I still play sssnakepit once in a while
Aww come on Finn! RHCP's recent albums are great! Give another shot!
Pretty fly is a terrible song but offspring aren't terrible.
Dude, the Offspring song "Gone Away" was awesome, and has a great cover by Five Fingered Death Punch. (The Offspring are an intelligent, sarcastic, deep thinking Punk Band, easily on parr with Social Distortion) The point of that song was to cringe--just as it was in their break out song. It's a snarky portrait of some character stereotypes, as described in in the song; that emerged at that time, and still exist today. The very intelligent lead singer is being sarcastic about them, I feel like you missed the subtlety? Distaste for the stereotype they lampoon and the strength of the band are different concepts. You gotta keep 'em separated.
I mean, that one The Offsprings song is exactly as you described it, some others too, but they have some insanely influential songs that definitely held up. The Kids Are Not Alright.
Also
"HEY, DUDES, DO YOU WANNA?" that song did NOT hold up, it is the essence of cheesy Easycore, even if I love it, lol.
The Adventure by Angels and Airwaves is timeless!!
Finn, you brought up a good point in the Limp Bizkit segment. Fred did a great job directing that video, especially with the celebrity cameos and the celebrities chosen have held up 20 years later. However, Limp Bizkit did not hold up 20 years later. Maybe you can do a video about the rise and fall of Limp Bizkit. Why were they so hot one minute and then fade away into obscurity over night? (BRW, I love the song “Break Stuff” but I hated the band.)
He actually talks about limp bizkit in every video they are basically the main character of the prmba cinematic universe.
Limp bizkit seems like they are making a comeback.
@@MarkyOosterveen 😤 *turns hat backwards*
I really feel like Limp Bizkit blew up again because people want to party like it's Woodstock 99
I’m not a fan of durst but I enjoy Borlands riffs. They are catchy and fun.
System of a Downs “bounce” was featured in a Pixar movie. Not with parrots but dogs.
If I'm not mistaken it was the secret life of pets.
Secret life of pets isnt a Pixar movie its Illumination
Not Pixar but yeah the metalhead poodle in secret life of pets, shit got me good
Adventure is still a classic.
Im a simple man,
I see Fred Durst,
I click.
Just hearing Finn talk about Stick Stickly...aside of the fact that it isn't a joke anymore...but rather it being a serious contbution to the artform and a real genre gamechanger...
...that blows my fifteen year old mind
Honestly Break Stuff is an amazing song. Limp Bizkit may be corny, but they have a pretty good selection of songs throughout their career. Also based on the brief interaction I've had with Fred Durst, he's actually a super nice dude.
Break Stuff = simple song to play with straight forward lyrics
Durst will be on stage this weekend at lalapolooza
This video genuinely surprised me. I never thought I would hear Finn say that he likes Limp Bizkit - "Break Stuff" and that it still holds up today, that he thinks Fred Durst is talented, that he loves the cranked up snare drum sound, that he loves 311, thinks they're talented, and has been listening to them since "Down", and that he likes old Red Hot Chili Peppers music more than their new stuff. That means Finn and I finally agree on some things and have tastes in common for once. I never thought I'd see the day. I like this new Twitch format he's doing.
Some thoughts on the video:
1) The 311 - "Come Original" music video came out in August 1999. I know JNCO was founded in 1993 only 6 years earlier, but the styles and fashions were slightly different and changed over time. People generally refer to the 90s as a monolithic thing, but the early, mid, and late 90s all had their own distinct style.
Also, you mention Nick's pseudo-ragga vocals. Come on dude, what do you expect? He's a white American, not a black Jamaican, so of course he's not going to sound completely "authentic", but Nick is a cool guy who was heavily influenced by dancehall reggae in the 90s and I give him credit for trying his best.
I think it sounds catchy, especially for the time, and makes the song what it is with the mix of styles. I hate it when critics go "hurr durr white boy reggae = cringe, bro", every time. It's always the same, tired old jab at 311 and any band that is white and plays reggae or reggae influenced music.
Does "Come Original" hold up 22 years later? Probably not, as it was a product of it's time, but IDGAF. 311 is my favorite band of all time and "Come Original" is my favorite 311 song of all time, hands down. I heard it right when it came out and I will always love it because it perfectly represents and mixes the different genres/influences into a single song.
Oh, and 311 moved from Omaha, Nebraska to Los Angeles, not San Jose.
2) The Offspring - "Pretty Fly For A White Guy", as well as "Original Prankster", are intentionally funny/joke/parody songs. "Pretty Fly For A White Guy" makes fun of white guys who try too hard to act "gangsta". So while The Offspring has funny songs, they have plenty of serious songs, including "The Kids Aren't Alright", from the same album as "Pretty Fly".
3) I always thought the girl in the "Misery Business" video looked like she was in her 40s, especially with the caked on make up. 32 is being generous in my opinion.
About that lyric: it obviously didn't age well, because it is no longer socially acceptable to slut-shame women, at least publicly and especially if you're famous. Is it a teenage revenge fantasy? Yes, but again, it's a product of its time and she was 17 when she wrote it.
It's one thing if Hayley is just tired of playing it, but that's one of their most popular songs, if not their signature song. I find it disappointing that they are not playing it anymore.
They could just change that one problematic lyric to something like "once a *bore* you're nothing more, I'm sorry that'll never change" when they play it live, for example, and there would be no issue, at least offense-wise.
Adventure is the sound of my teen years. Love angels and airwaves
Don’t like the offspring? Yeah no appreciation to what the band did for the punk scene. Pretty fly is a terrible song but your disregard for their other contribution over that period shows how bad your taste and opinions are. I kind of thought you were of the same generation as us have left us baffled as to what you actually like other than nothing
Dude, you can’t tell me The Offspring is a bad band, I know I’m just picking two massive hits here but songs like “Gone Away” and “The Kids Aren’t Alright” are timeless and legendary. Just my humble opinion
The Offspring???? Listen to Smash, Ignition, and Ixnay..... great albums!!!! The Offspring are VERY important to the 90s.
I always say, if you didn't listen to The Offspring in the 90s, what were you doing? You lived the 90s in the wrong way!
Limp Bizkit doesn't deserve any of the hate they got as a band.
But Fred durst deserves all the hate
Limp bizkit the band is great.
San Jose is a reasonable distance from Monterey Bay. Also it's a trip to hear Limp Bizkit praised and Offspring dissed is through the looking glass for me.
I'm so happy you love 311. Those guys have successfully carved out a space for themselves. I think they have only taken two summers off touring since 93
I can’t even count how many shows I’ve been too, including two 311 days and their live show is fantastic. Their growth as a band has taken some weird turns, but what good band doesn’t? But that’s what I think about Thrice too, and I already know what Finn thinks about them. 🤣
@@msaughtsix I'll alway love the 90s 311 (Grassroots and Transistor) but I do love what they have been doing lately even though some songs aren't there's. I feel they deserve to try something different after 30 years 👍
"Sheldon Core" needs to be a thing! Hahah
Sorry, but anything LB holds up really good: Their shows are an absolute blast. Music elitist: cope!
To this day their Woodstock 99 set is one of the greatest live performances of all time. That shit went HARD, that sea of humanity never stopped moving.
@@aidinexmachina4232 I know. 41 yo here lol I was there
not really saw them about 6 years back and they were a parody of themselves
Check out the woodstock 99 documentary on hbo max
@@TheCivildecay probably your experience alone. Seen them innumerable times. Still a better show better than most bands.
Hayley "dis-avowing" misery business is very lame, and I'm a big fan of hers but the song is historic and the whole "whore" lyric could be performed with a bit more tongue and cheek rather then earnestly, she doesn't need to cancel her own song.
Want you bad by the offspring and kids aren’t alright and also gone away and can’t repeat are all good songs.. can’t change my mind. Self esteem and keep em separated are ok
Sorry but The Offspring are awesome punk / pop-punk band especially the first three albums. Sure that late 2000s was some weird cringe but i think as a band they are even more important than Green Day.
“She modeled for delia’s a few years ago…”
Holy shit there’s a name I haven’t thought of in 20 years
I love The Offspring :D Rock dosen´t need to be super serious all the time :D But again each to its own. I know some of the music i hate is loved by others. Pretty fly for a white guy gets people rocking :)
"Pretty Fly for a White Guy" is on the playlist at Spencer's Gifts. I love when it comes on.
i discovered 311 after getting their sticker in a sticker vending machine at walmart in 5th grade! awe my youth, such good memories, the vending machine arguably being a piece of 90's bingo in my own game
18:16 Didn't realize nobody took Paramore seriously then. Everybody I knew seemed to be into them at the time in NKY. Crazy.
What does NKY stand for?
@@kittykittybangbang9367It's just Northern Kentucky.
@@NexusLives oh 👌
The offspring's singles are traditionally cheesy/bad/radio friendly, the non singles on the album are generally very strong