Hi Peeps. Thanks for watching. This is our last video from the Peak District for a while. Loads more filmed and lined up in the coming weeks. Stay tuned!
@@richardpettet9996 that's always a tricky one Richard. It's a balance between showing the station and hoping that people appreciate the picture on its own, but also trying to get the captions in as well. Appreciate the feedback.
Paul, might I suggest 5-6 seconds minimum, depending on how many words you're putting on screen? In my videos I try for between 4 and 7 seconds of "on screen wording" when doing such.
Another great trip! Historically, railroads have always followed canals because the canals followed the easiest, most level route. In the same way, modern highways and roads have replaced earlier canals and railroads. Here In New York state where I live, the New York Central RR followed the route of the Erie canal, which in turn The New York State Thruway follows. In fact in Rochester after the canal was relocated away from downtown, they used the Erie Canal aqueduct as a bridge. The old canal bed to the east was also used for the expressway leading into the city. This is a tribute to early 19th century surveyors who did such a great job laying out the original routes! Without the benefit of modern technology they did a fantastic job!
@@pwhitewick Ah, before everything else there were the foot paths of people walking from village to village. I used to live on a road that followed an Iroquois Indian path that stretched from Niagara Falls to Albany. In England you can still find the cattle trails that are now sunken trails closed in with heavy brush, and your roads follow ancient paths as well, and Roman roads. I know this because I've watched every episode of "Time Team" and the "Time Team" specials! Phil Hardin and Tony Robinson have taught me more about England then all the books I've ever read. On one episode they showed how early surveyors did their job with metal rods and chains for measuring. Plus all the marvelous videos of forgotten Victorian railroads in England. Some people (not all!) tend to forget our past in the rush to get to the future, and thus miss out on the lessons learned that have gotten us this far.
Have been around the Fernilee and Goyt reservoir areas many times and could barely believe those steep inclines, now roads or tracks, were once used by trains. Immersive vid as usual. Thanks.
I was born and raised in the area and I've done the high peak trail countless times, walked and cycled... I never take the stunning countryside of Derbyshire and the Peak District for granted... thanks for sharing your trip. 😊
Thanks for taking me along on your journey. I'm not sure what i enjoy the most the scenery or how you interact with each other and It's a cold snowy day nothing better than watching a lovely couple having fun Thanks
When I was a tacker (sorry Cornish term) little lad, there was either a 2-4-0 or 0-6-0 engine which my dad always called the chopper. I was later told it was a north London tank engine. On the road between Wirksworth and Middleton there was a bridge at an angle and I wondered how an engine was going to get up that slope not knowing it was a cable wagon way. Before the bridge was a quarry and I remember in the 1950s seeing a box like engine and asking if it was a diesel and being told it was a Sentinel. I was none the wiser. Enjoy your walk.
Fantastic video reminds me of the tramway near to us. It was the missing link between two ends of the canal and saved an expensive viaduct over the ribble
@@pwhitewick en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancaster_Canal_Tramroad The rebuilt bridge over the ribble is unsafe and closed its caused a real stink in the papers. It seams to have used steam winch to get the carriages up at the Town end. There is also the en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_and_Longridge_Railway That started close by to the top of the incline sadly most of it is not open to the public
I work this area with many hauliers so often pass these old lines & stations, I’ve been in Dowlow quarry recently, huge place where they take the bulk of the stone out by rail. I need to cycle 🚲 these old lines like you pair. Thanks for another good video.
If you follow the path down the Shallcross incline you can follow the old railway route to the canal basin in Whaley Bridge. The route is crossed by the Buxton-Manchester line so you have to leave the path where it goes under Chapel Road and head over Old Road to rejoin it at the incline down to the canal basin where the old transshipment building is. The Shallcross incline was only opened a few years ago. Before that, my dad used it as a chicken run!
So nice to see the area I now call home on here. Buxton Half Marathon goes past quite a lot of the old HPR; good race for railway and running enthusiasts!
The thing to bear in mind is that early railways built before the introduction of efficient and relatively powerful self-propelled steam engines, had to rely on a combination of horses and cable-hauled inclines powered by stationary engines such as the one at Middleton Top. For a line such as the Cromford & High Peak designed to join two canals it made sense to make the horse-drawn sections level and to concentrate the gradient changes into as few inclines as possible. It also left open the possibility of converting the formation to a canal, if and when funds allowed. So perhaps the builders of the H&CPR weren't quite so stuck in their ways as one might think.
Been watching your vids for a while now. This one is particularly atmospheric with the combination of the weather, scenery and music. Well made, and as always very informative.
Another great video! You've just had me covering the lounger floor with OS maps following where you were. I drove down the road which used to be the Bunsall Incline the other day and had no idea it was once the Cromford & High Peak Railway! I must go and explore next Summer!
According to the OS - 25 thou map the line at Harpur Hill station is part of cycle route 68, so it is walkable right through this area, did it from Brierlow Bar to Ladmanlow some years ago , no problems. But you are watched by CCTV on the HSE section.
Tut tut. Not more than 2 miles from my house and never came for a brew. Another excellent production and one I can relate to very much. My sister used to live at Sterndale Moor which is where Hindlow Quarry is (she is much older than me) and my nephews are my age. We used to roam those fields where the suspicious cow was and that line was still open right through to Ashbourne. Brilliant, now you’ve reminded me how old I am. Keep up the good work you two, it saves me a lot of walking.
Hahaha.... Cheers Don. A brew would have been very much appreciated. You should have instinctively known we may appear at random places and locations and made a brew just in case... 😉
Great video, love the rugged landscape, rail route and canal so interesting followed the C@HP on google maps a couple of times full of interest. thank you Paul and Rebecca. xx
Absolutely loving the new videos. Especially as you are doing such amazing history and this is a place I visited a few years ago. Hurdlow we drove past purely by accident and that is what led my son and I to walk the Tissington Trail starting at Parsley Hey.
@@pwhitewick Hehe, I totally understand. I'm saving for a drone at the moment but the idea of it just dropping out of the sky or hitting a tree or something terrifies me!
Another interesting video the book shop is always a must nice cake and if you stop in Cromford try Scarthin book shop also good food. Anyway keep the videos coming always good for a smile
I love watching you guys. I had no interest in old stations and trackbeds, but now I get it! It's fascinating. Love your photography too - very professional.
Great video, interesting that they treated the railway like a canal, it's just like some of the early coaches on the trains were treated like stagecoaches.
Resolving the Wednesday Friday equilibrium slowly. Very interesting inclines which has sparked an interest. Nice to see the Wellingtons made from the back of the car, I speculate that the warm waterproofs were in there next to the not required torch. Always educating guys and with a fair dollop of humour. Keep keeping on.
Always glad to see your videos whichever day they are published! This is an interesting counterpoint to the video you did with Martin Zero on the other side of the peaks. Really didn’t know railways stretched back that far and on my home patch. Always thought of early railways being a northern thing not a midland. Thanks for making this one! Lovely to see the Goyt valley in familiar weather too! 🤣🤣🤣😂👍😁👊🐜
Cheers Ant. Yup until we started researching this we assumed Stephenson was the Dad of everything. Turns out there were countless plateways underway anywhere there was a coal field!
Hi to both of you. Only discovered your channel a few weeks ago, but am hooked (and subscribed) thanks to Mr Zero (even though he comes from 'the other side of the big hill' (clue to my location). Love the 'shape shifting footware' - when you are on top of the hills and embankments, you wear wellies and when you go to a valley full of water, they change to boots/shoes - magic! Keep up the good work! Steve ;-)
Haha.... Not sure what the shape shifting software is?? Yes we are always getting the footwear wrong which you'll not from the next few videos too! Glad you are enjoying the channel.
Went to college in Harpur Hill and used to walk up near where you have the station located, there is nothing left up there as the quarry has dug the whole area out so don't think you would have found much if you did get up there.
On the trackbed to Burbage tunnel where the two embankments are, there is a culvert underneath them, but the waterway is virtually invisible and the culvert is very overgrown but working. I do believe (although I've not looked that closely) that there isn't a break between the two.
@@pwhitewick The culvert doesn't open out between the two embankments. It's as if when they built the new embankment the extended the culvert under the original one to go under it. I do need to get down between them to check for sure because the sage grass is a bugger for turning small waterways into a natural culvert until you tread on it........LOL
hey paul and rebecca , another great video , well thats one way to make sure you get up lol , awwww poor rebecca @ 3.26 lmao, this one was interesting as normal , great work both in yuk conditions lol :)
Another well put together and informative video from you two👍 Shame everything isn’t accessible but that’s the way it goes these days. Looking forward to watching more and thanks for making an aircraft enthusiast have a little more interest in our forgotten railway infrastructure 🤔 👍
Edited this now I’m back home...so, quoted from ‘The Cromford Canal’ by Hugh Potter. ‘The Cromford & High Peak Railway was originally planned as a canal but it was soon realised that the limestone over which it passed would never hold water..so a railway was built instead with long level stretches linked by inclines. Opened in 1831.
Aha, Wednesday, the new Friday!!!! Good old Peak District - Fog & Rain, lucky it cleared for you.🌧 All those tracks on the map, no wonder the HSE (sorry, Dept. of Common Sense) have their offices there!!!! 👍
Another really interesting video. I visited the area last year and took a few photos around Dowlow quarry (from the bridge in the background of your clip), I don't think the links will work from my website and it's difficult to tell from my photos and google maps but I suspect that any trace of Dowlow Halt has vanished as the quarry site has developed over the years. Simon.
Couldn't agree more. The fog felt very fitting. Worked for us. Music that we use is paid for on a monthly subscription. Lots to choose from, hours if listening to get the right tune!
Thank you for another interesting film. It has brought back many memories of an old stamping ground. May I suggest a future linked production would be from Parsley Hay to Ashbourne and Uttoxeter.
Very interesting as usual with you both fighting the cool weather. Please slowdown the tag line exposure - not long enough time on screen for us "oldies" - but keep up the great work of finding old railways.
@@pwhitewick Thank you - by the way, I forgot to mention your great use of drone shots as I love "getting off the ground to see the lay of the land" - just makes docus more interesting. Have you thought of wandering along the old track from Cheltenham Spa to Kingham via Andoversford & Bourton on the Water? My neck of the woods.
Nothing like a wee bit of English fog! You're getting to know your country pretty well. I wonder if they have the same amount of antient railroad lines in Scotland.
Thanks Shaun. We think that most stations in a passenger capacity where open between 1874 and 1877. Mainly owing to an accident in 1877 on one of the inclines
the reason you most proberly could not get on the site of the old Harpur Hill station area is because it used to belong to the MOD and they used to carry out tests
Another fab vlog guys very interesting to see you on another disused railway that’s gone forever.... such a shame. I have noticed that you sometimes seem to forget certain things concerning the history of the line you are exploring, if I may be so bold as to make a suggestion..... why not add to the “Notes” section on your smartphone important info and or facts about the railway in question prior to setting off and then once filming you can easily refer to your notes..... hopefully this will help.
Cheers Peter always welcome feedback. Yup we do have a big notes page but sometimes we just forget or I clip it out if the edit in error. Lots to learn!
Nothing like a midweek video to keep interests up! I love the "Every Disused Station" hoodies (and t-shirts)! Are you planning to release them for sale like Geoff Marshall did for "All the stations?" I certain hope so!
Thanks Paul, but there seems to be a problem tonight. 🤔 I clicked on your link and got an odd page that says "Want your own website? Get online with Website Builder" Odd... 🤔
Another interesting & informative video ... tks :-) Can't decide whether I watch these videos because of my interest in the history of our trains or because I have a crush on Rebecca lol ;-)
The stopping on the inclines was it seems the problem, shortlived station as Paul mentioned. Personally I would like to see all the features on the one line, stations, tunnels goods yards etc in one vid. Gets a bit confusing, particularly here on the other side of the world
I agree LDN. Tricky as there is soooo much to explore here. I think we missed a tunnel and didn't have time to see all the inclines. Perhaps we will come back.
No, locomotives was NOT used to pull train uphill. Carriages was attached to line at bottom of incline and pull by stationary steam engine. At the same time other carriage giong down the hill at another end of line to compensate some weight. by Wikipedia: High Peak Junction lies at the bottom of the steep Sheep Pasture incline (some 1320 yards in length at a gradient varying between 1:8 and 1:9), and following a runaway in 1888 a catch pit was constructed, the two lines passing either side of it. In this accident (of which there are a number of varying versions), it would seem that a wagon loaded with lime and a brake van containing gunpowder broke free from a train, hurtling down the incline at speeds of up to 120 mph. Failing to take the bend at the bottom, they then ran across the site, jumping across both the canal (damaging the bank) and the double tracks of the Midland Railway before one of the canisters exploded in the adjacent field. Minutes later the London passenger train passed.[8][9] Wreckage seen in the catch pit today dates from a further runaway in the 1950s.
Hiya just to say your in my area - meaning where I have explored on my Mountain bike!!! - @ 6:08 to 612 - I have cycled along that bit about a year ago!!! @6:17 Harper Hill means your Near Buxton - At Harper Hill is Solomon's Temple - Here are a few links that might interest you!!! ;) Solomon's Temple 360 View - ruclips.net/video/7VOih5nnPvE/видео.html & Tower With Great View (Solomon's Temple) ruclips.net/video/xsQ3-S2Vs2U/видео.html Also interestingly enough @ 7:55 at the H. S. E. Site there is actually a bit of the old Track now a path way were you can cycle & walk along goes past the H. S. E. & you can see they have built about 100 meters of there own track & placed an old 1960's (I think) London underground Train - I did make a video but I can't find it - other wise I would of sent you the Link!!!
No Problem - well if you are prepared to venture in to Derbyshire & to the Cromford and High peak railway & Harper Hill - then you might aswell venture a little further to the Monsal Trail (it used to be a Midland Railway line until it closed in 1968!!!) - why??? because there are a few abandoned Stations along it :- Blackwell Mill - (this is near the Buxton End of it!!!) all there is left of it are 2 platforms & a Navies Hut complete with a small stove!!! (There is a gate you have to climb over marked "Private" though to get to it - not sure if you want to do that though???) There is also a Cycle Hire here aswell - Lovely helpful folk who run it :) (Not being rude or funny but the short about 110 meters between Cressbrook Tunnel & Litton Tunnel is called "Water-Cum--Jolly"!!! & yes it is actually spelt that way!!! ;) lol) - A few years ago I was cycling along that section & this old respectable looking lady stop me & ask me where was "Water-Cum--Jolly" is - but I don't think that she realised that it was spelt the rude way may be spelt "Come" instead!!! I didn't have the heart to tell her that - didn't want to shock her - so I just chuckled to myself!!! lol Millersdale Station - (In it's day used to be the biggest on this Planet - NO not really!!! Just the biggest on this line only!!! It used to have 5 platforms - only about 3 remain now!!!) Now has a Café in it & the Engine Shed (next to it) is now under Restoration!!! Monsal Dale Station - all there is left is 1 platform (with a gap behind it where there used to be a siding!!!) & opposite that platform (if you can find them in the weeds & a little to the right) you can see the remains of the wooden platform supports!!! (Check out the View @ Monsal Viaduct (just before you head into the Tunnel!!!) then also just before you head into the tunnel go up the VERY steep path on the left & @ the top not only there is a better view of the Viaduct, but make sure you get some thing to eat & Drink @ the Monsal Head Hotel (cos that is just where I happen to work! :) !!!) Great Longstone Station - The Station building is now a Private residents but @ least you can still walk along 1 of the Platforms (The left 1 & half along the right platform!!!) Hassop Station - Now been turned in to a Café, book shop & a Cycle Hire place!!! & lastly there is Bakewell Station - Now turned in to offices!!! There is an info sign with photos of it how it used to look like, (apart from the passing Train in the Photo) play a game of "spot the differance" & see what has gone since the photo had been taken!!! Look out for all the info boards (most of them have old b/w photos on them) along the M. T. (Monsal Trail) - ok I said that the Station were abandoned - that was a little white lie - sorry - some are (some have been repurposed) - some not but it is worth your while to walk along all of the 8 & 1/2 miles of the Trail with the Stunning View along it & places to eat (Like the Monsal Head Hotel aka "The Monsal" or "Monsal Head"!!! I thank you :)
It would be good if you had a plan/organised access instead of just ticking stations off without actually visiting, just saying cause it’s a waste of my time.👎 this wouldn’t happen with Martin Zero🤔🏴
All the stations on this line were closed in 1877. The remains of some are on an active railway, the rest we either got to (such as hurdlow) or couldn't get to because they were on HSE land. Which stations in particular would you have preferred us to have got closer to and how? Thanks in advance.
Hi Peeps. Thanks for watching. This is our last video from the Peak District for a while. Loads more filmed and lined up in the coming weeks. Stay tuned!
Paul sometimes your screen captions are too quick for us old 'uns to read. Thanks.
@@richardpettet9996 that's always a tricky one Richard. It's a balance between showing the station and hoping that people appreciate the picture on its own, but also trying to get the captions in as well. Appreciate the feedback.
Paul, might I suggest 5-6 seconds minimum, depending on how many words you're putting on screen? In my videos I try for between 4 and 7 seconds of "on screen wording" when doing such.
Without wishing to come over as patronising, there is always the use of the pause facility by clicking anywhere on the screen, click again to resume.
True, but not everyone thinks of that!
Another great trip! Historically, railroads have always followed canals because the canals followed the easiest, most level route. In the same way, modern highways and roads have replaced earlier canals and railroads. Here In New York state where I live, the New York Central RR followed the route of the Erie canal, which in turn The New York State Thruway follows. In fact in Rochester after the canal was relocated away from downtown, they used the Erie Canal aqueduct as a bridge. The old canal bed to the east was also used for the expressway leading into the city. This is a tribute to early 19th century surveyors who did such a great job laying out the original routes! Without the benefit of modern technology they did a fantastic job!
Love it. Thanks for sharing. And what about before the canal routes?
@@pwhitewick Ah, before everything else there were the foot paths of people walking from village to village. I used to live on a road that followed an Iroquois Indian path that stretched from Niagara Falls to Albany. In England you can still find the cattle trails that are now sunken trails closed in with heavy brush, and your roads follow ancient paths as well, and Roman roads. I know this because I've watched every episode of "Time Team" and the "Time Team" specials! Phil Hardin and Tony Robinson have taught me more about England then all the books I've ever read. On one episode they showed how early surveyors did their job with metal rods and chains for measuring.
Plus all the marvelous videos of forgotten Victorian railroads in England. Some people (not all!) tend to forget our past in the rush to get to the future, and thus miss out on the lessons learned that have gotten us this far.
What a wonderful railway. Brilliantly engineered. Superb factual video guys. Thanks very much
A bookstore café is a super idea!
Have been around the Fernilee and Goyt reservoir areas many times and could barely believe those steep inclines, now roads or tracks, were once used by trains. Immersive vid as usual. Thanks.
Thanks Nick. Yup we never knew these inclines existed in such abundance before we visited here.
I was born and raised in the area and I've done the high peak trail countless times, walked and cycled... I never take the stunning countryside of Derbyshire and the Peak District for granted... thanks for sharing your trip. 😊
Thanks Teri, we had a great time here, a very enjoyable trip
Thanks for taking me along on your journey. I'm not sure what i enjoy the most the scenery or how you interact with each other and It's a cold snowy day nothing better than watching a lovely couple having fun
Thanks
Thanks Lawrence. Perhaps a mix of all of those things! That's definitely what we aim for. 👍👍
10:00 There are no culverts because the bedrock is limestone and the water drains through - great video.
When I was a tacker (sorry Cornish term) little lad, there was either a 2-4-0 or 0-6-0 engine which my dad always called the chopper. I was later told it was a north London tank engine. On the road between Wirksworth and Middleton there was a bridge at an angle and I wondered how an engine was going to get up that slope not knowing it was a cable wagon way. Before the bridge was a quarry and I remember in the 1950s seeing a box like engine and asking if it was a diesel and being told it was a Sentinel. I was none the wiser. Enjoy your walk.
I think I know the bridge!
Fantastic video reminds me of the tramway near to us. It was the missing link between two ends of the canal and saved an expensive viaduct over the ribble
You have got me. To. Start to look into it more on line
Cheers Nick. Which one is that?
@@pwhitewick en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancaster_Canal_Tramroad
The rebuilt bridge over the ribble is unsafe and closed its caused a real stink in the papers. It seams to have used steam winch to get the carriages up at the Town end. There is also the en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_and_Longridge_Railway
That started close by to the top of the incline sadly most of it is not open to the public
I work this area with many hauliers so often pass these old lines & stations, I’ve been in Dowlow quarry recently, huge place where they take the bulk of the stone out by rail. I need to cycle 🚲 these old lines like you pair. Thanks for another good video.
Thanks Nick. Much appreciated. Yup get that bike out, well worth the trip.
If you follow the path down the Shallcross incline you can follow the old railway route to the canal basin in Whaley Bridge.
The route is crossed by the Buxton-Manchester line so you have to leave the path where it goes under Chapel Road and head over Old Road to rejoin it at the incline down to the canal basin where the old transshipment building is.
The Shallcross incline was only opened a few years ago. Before that, my dad used it as a chicken run!
Thanks for uploading Rebecca & Paul.
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Just a perfect mix of history, filming and humour make you so good to watch
Thanks Herb. That is what we are aiming for. 👍
So nice to see the area I now call home on here. Buxton Half Marathon goes past quite a lot of the old HPR; good race for railway and running enthusiasts!
I know a few of those!
The thing to bear in mind is that early railways built before the introduction of efficient and relatively powerful self-propelled steam engines, had to rely on a combination of horses and cable-hauled inclines powered by stationary engines such as the one at Middleton Top. For a line such as the Cromford & High Peak designed to join two canals it made sense to make the horse-drawn sections level and to concentrate the gradient changes into as few inclines as possible. It also left open the possibility of converting the formation to a canal, if and when funds allowed. So perhaps the builders of the H&CPR weren't quite so stuck in their ways as one might think.
Been watching your vids for a while now. This one is particularly atmospheric with the combination of the weather, scenery and music. Well made, and as always very informative.
Thanks Jon, we loved making this one and the area certainly lent itself to a nice video.
Thanks for trip enjoyed walking with you. Just love everything railway
Thanks Linda. Us too. 👍
Another great video! You've just had me covering the lounger floor with OS maps following where you were. I drove down the road which used to be the Bunsall Incline the other day and had no idea it was once the Cromford & High Peak Railway! I must go and explore next Summer!
According to the OS - 25 thou map the line at Harpur Hill station is part of cycle route 68, so it is walkable right through this area, did it from Brierlow Bar to Ladmanlow some years ago , no problems. But you are watched by CCTV on the HSE section.
I can image that's the case. Cheers Iain
Great stuff again - I just love you two
Cheers Robin. Glad you are enjoying the vids 👍👍🎥
Tut tut. Not more than 2 miles from my house and never came for a brew. Another excellent production and one I can relate to very much. My sister used to live at Sterndale Moor which is where Hindlow Quarry is (she is much older than me) and my nephews are my age. We used to roam those fields where the suspicious cow was and that line was still open right through to Ashbourne. Brilliant, now you’ve reminded me how old I am. Keep up the good work you two, it saves me a lot of walking.
Hahaha.... Cheers Don. A brew would have been very much appreciated. You should have instinctively known we may appear at random places and locations and made a brew just in case... 😉
Oh Becca! what we´ll gonna do without you! may be Martin will be wandering trouugh the british meadows for ever... .Haha.Nice video !.
Sorry ,I must put Paul... .
Great video, love the rugged landscape, rail route and canal so interesting followed the C@HP on google maps a couple of times full of interest. thank you Paul and Rebecca. xx
Keep watching night be a bonus time lapse out later today 👍
Absolutely loving the new videos. Especially as you are doing such amazing history and this is a place I visited a few years ago. Hurdlow we drove past purely by accident and that is what led my son and I to walk the Tissington Trail starting at Parsley Hey.
Thank you. Yup it's a fantastic area full of history. Could quite happily live in this place.
Another great video, love your enthusiasm. Keep up the good work.
Cheers Griff. Much appreciated.
Fantastic viewing, great scenery. Great job as always.
Thanks Andrew.
I have a minor obsession with Ladmanlow and the section to Whaley Bridge so thanks for posting. Good choice of car too.
Hi can fully understand why! Beautiful area.
Walked up Sheep Pasture Incline just this weekend with my son. What a fantastic area, with so much history all around....
We could easily have spent a week here. Hope your boy enjoyed it too.
@@pwhitewick Thanks, he certainly did. Hope you found the time to explore the worlds first factory at Cromford Mills while you were there.....
Hartington to Ashbourne is cracking on your bike, get a right beak on 🤣dust trail on a summers day 👊
Glad you liked Derbyshire, some happy memories of your area from my time in Tidworth, early 70s. Half a lifetime ago.
Yeah Hampshire and Wiltshire are full of ancient history.
Another great Peak District video, and really loving the drone shots. They're so cinematic!
Cheers. All depends on braveness factor and weather but we are getting better with it.... 👍👍
@@pwhitewick Hehe, I totally understand. I'm saving for a drone at the moment but the idea of it just dropping out of the sky or hitting a tree or something terrifies me!
@@hullhistorynerd yup completely with you there. That's us in a nutshell.
Brilliant really interesting about the Canal/railway
Cheers Martin. Gutted you could make this one. Yup such a bizarre notion now, but probably quite a normal thought before the railways took hold.
Loving the Peak District videos. Thank You
Cheers. Sadly the last one from us from here for a while.
Another interesting video the book shop is always a must nice cake and if you stop in Cromford try Scarthin book shop also good food. Anyway keep the videos coming always good for a smile
The Hindlow Book shop was amazing. I think we were there for a couple of hours!
I love watching you guys. I had no interest in old stations and trackbeds, but now I get it! It's fascinating. Love your photography too - very professional.
Thanks Chris. Really pleased it's working for you. Much appreciated
Whitewick's Abandoned Railways Cheers guys!
Short but sweet. Love your drone shots. Already looking forward to your next upload on Tuesday!
I'm not sure Tuesday is the next Friday....
@@pwhitewick Oh no, I'm going to have to wait over a week for my next fix!
Great video, interesting that they treated the railway like a canal, it's just like some of the early coaches on the trains were treated like stagecoaches.
Ah of course. Makes sense.
Resolving the Wednesday Friday equilibrium slowly. Very interesting inclines which has sparked an interest.
Nice to see the Wellingtons made from the back of the car, I speculate that the warm waterproofs were in there next to the not required torch. Always educating guys and with a fair dollop of humour. Keep keeping on.
Cheers Owen. Glad the clock is settling. Wellies to appear in the next video much to my feets disappointment. 👍🎥👢
Another fascinating film very informative and fun to watch
Cheers Richard. Glad you enjoyed it.
Always glad to see your videos whichever day they are published!
This is an interesting counterpoint to the video you did with Martin Zero on the other side of the peaks. Really didn’t know railways stretched back that far and on my home patch. Always thought of early railways being a northern thing not a midland. Thanks for making this one! Lovely to see the Goyt valley in familiar weather too! 🤣🤣🤣😂👍😁👊🐜
Cheers Ant. Yup until we started researching this we assumed Stephenson was the Dad of everything. Turns out there were countless plateways underway anywhere there was a coal field!
Very interesting video as always. I was trying to picture what this would have been like in the winter? Brutal at times I would imagine.
Yes, I e since heard a few tales from drivers suggesting it was extremely tough
Hi to both of you. Only discovered your channel a few weeks ago, but am hooked (and subscribed) thanks to Mr Zero (even though he comes from 'the other side of the big hill' (clue to my location). Love the 'shape shifting footware' - when you are on top of the hills and embankments, you wear wellies and when you go to a valley full of water, they change to boots/shoes - magic! Keep up the good work! Steve ;-)
Haha.... Not sure what the shape shifting software is??
Yes we are always getting the footwear wrong which you'll not from the next few videos too! Glad you are enjoying the channel.
I so enjoy your interesting videos thank you from New Zealand
Thank you New Zealand. 👍👍
Nice one guys. always enjoyable
Cheers Martin. 👍👍
Went to college in Harpur Hill and used to walk up near where you have the station located, there is nothing left up there as the quarry has dug the whole area out so don't think you would have found much if you did get up there.
Ah cheers Wills. That makes me feel a lot better about missing it.
Been in that bookshop and made impulse railway book purchases. You are near to my hometown Leek there.
I loved that shop!
On the trackbed to Burbage tunnel where the two embankments are, there is a culvert underneath them, but the waterway is virtually invisible and the culvert is very overgrown but working. I do believe (although I've not looked that closely) that there isn't a break between the two.
Ah that's interesting. When you say a break between the two, what do you mean?
@@pwhitewick The culvert doesn't open out between the two embankments. It's as if when they built the new embankment the extended the culvert under the original one to go under it. I do need to get down between them to check for sure because the sage grass is a bugger for turning small waterways into a natural culvert until you tread on it........LOL
@@TIMMEH19991 ah I see what you mean. Let us know how you get on!
Always enjoyable!
Thank you 👍👍
Interesting video as always. Keep on the good work
always fun , keep up the great work 👍😀
Cheers Peter.
Great Video - again nice to see some areas I've been walking before.
Cheers Ian. Lovely area, definitely becoming back again one day soon. (Monsal)
@@pwhitewick Yes! Start at Rowsley, through Bakewell, through the tunnels and over the viaduct at Monsall Head then on to Buxton! A great walk.
@@ianellis4276 we've cycled it before but that was pre #EveryDisusedStation so an excuse to do it again!
Another great video you pair, plenty of history scenery even it looks abit bleak out
Cheers Neil. Yup it was a tad foggy but also easy to forget we were 400m up.
Try Higham to Strood in Kent, the canal that became a railway, and tries to return to being a canal when it rains too much.
😂😂
Thank you for another really interesting video.
Thanks Stephen, glad you enjoyed it.
hey paul and rebecca , another great video , well thats one way to make sure you get up lol , awwww poor rebecca @ 3.26 lmao, this one was interesting as normal , great work both in yuk conditions lol :)
Cheers Davie. We were all set for a hot day but the fog didn't clear!
Another well put together and informative video from you two👍 Shame everything isn’t accessible but that’s the way it goes these days. Looking forward to watching more and thanks for making an aircraft enthusiast have a little more interest in our forgotten railway infrastructure 🤔 👍
Thanks Buzzard. Glad we are giving you a little insight into this subject.
Edited this now I’m back home...so, quoted from ‘The Cromford Canal’ by Hugh Potter. ‘The Cromford & High Peak Railway was originally planned as a canal but it was soon realised that the limestone over which it passed would never hold water..so a railway was built instead with long level stretches linked by inclines. Opened in 1831.
Aha, Wednesday, the new Friday!!!! Good old Peak District - Fog & Rain, lucky it cleared for you.🌧 All those tracks on the map, no wonder the HSE (sorry, Dept. of Common Sense) have their offices there!!!! 👍
Yup that plus lots of military history I think. Role on next Friday's..... Wednesday's....
Good work,thanks
Cheers Simon.
Another really interesting video. I visited the area last year and took a few photos around Dowlow quarry (from the bridge in the background of your clip), I don't think the links will work from my website and it's difficult to tell from my photos and google maps but I suspect that any trace of Dowlow Halt has vanished as the quarry site has developed over the years. Simon.
Cheers Simon. I am sure you are right, most traces have now gone, but feel free to share any links you like.
@@pwhitewick Link as follows: sisuktrainpix.smugmug.com/2018/Peak-Forest-2/
I did like the subliminal advertising of the EDS hoodies - very subtle guys !! 😎😅
I assume one is swinging its way to you Stephen 😉
@@pwhitewick I promise I will buy one as soon as I can (well at least a t-shirt !!) 😎
Oh if you think that is a good bookshop. Just wait till you get to Barter Books in Alnwick. Can’t wait for that line as I know it so well.
I'll make a note!
Love it. All of it.
Lovely country, up there. The gray sky suits the landscape, somehow. In other news- whoever does the music for your videos deserves a pat on the back!
Couldn't agree more. The fog felt very fitting. Worked for us. Music that we use is paid for on a monthly subscription. Lots to choose from, hours if listening to get the right tune!
Thank you for another interesting film. It has brought back many memories of an old stamping ground. May I suggest a future linked production would be from Parsley Hay to Ashbourne and Uttoxeter.
Thanks Philip. Yes, most definitely, a trip up the Tissington is very much on the cards.
Or former NSR line in the churnet Valley.
@@edwilson5416 And not to forget the Leek and Manifold either.
Fantastic 👍🏻
Cheers Dan.
Love the video
Thank you John.
Very interesting as usual with you both fighting the cool weather. Please slowdown the tag line exposure - not long enough time on screen for us "oldies" - but keep up the great work of finding old railways.
Thank you. Yup we wizz through them quickly sometimes, will work on it.
@@pwhitewick Thank you - by the way, I forgot to mention your great use of drone shots as I love "getting off the ground to see the lay of the land" - just makes docus more interesting. Have you thought of wandering along the old track from Cheltenham Spa to Kingham via Andoversford & Bourton on the Water? My neck of the woods.
The old photo and new photo was good
Thanks Caroline.
Another great video. Your work should be paid by english heritage and a few other channels should do too for all this work!
Well we are definitely open to sponsorship 😁
Nothing like a wee bit of English fog! You're getting to know your country pretty well. I wonder if they have the same amount of antient railroad lines in Scotland.
We have some big plans for Scotland next year. Fingers crossed for the weather.
Nice video
Great video Paul and Rebecca,is that right the last two stations you visited were only open a couple of years?, beautiful place as well 👌😀👍
Thanks Shaun. We think that most stations in a passenger capacity where open between 1874 and 1877. Mainly owing to an accident in 1877 on one of the inclines
@@pwhitewick thanks Paul 👌
the reason you most proberly could not get on the site of the old Harpur Hill station area is because it used to belong to the MOD and they used to carry out tests
Yup makes sense. Combined with the HSE?
Another fab vlog guys very interesting to see you on another disused railway that’s gone forever.... such a shame. I have noticed that you sometimes seem to forget certain things concerning the history of the line you are exploring, if I may be so bold as to make a suggestion..... why not add to the “Notes” section on your smartphone important info and or facts about the railway in question prior to setting off and then once filming you can easily refer to your notes..... hopefully this will help.
Cheers Peter always welcome feedback. Yup we do have a big notes page but sometimes we just forget or I clip it out if the edit in error. Lots to learn!
Nothing like a midweek video to keep interests up! I love the "Every Disused Station" hoodies (and t-shirts)! Are you planning to release them for sale like Geoff Marshall did for "All the stations?" I certain hope so!
Cheers. Yup check out the website Paul whitewick.co.uk it has the link on the front page 👍👍👍
Thanks Paul, but there seems to be a problem tonight. 🤔 I clicked on your link and got an odd page that says "Want your own website?
Get online with Website Builder" Odd... 🤔
@@tobys_transport_videos try this paulwhitewick.co.uk/
Where on earth do you get all your energy from?
Love the videos.
Haha, not quite sure Lynton!
Another interesting & informative video ... tks :-)
Can't decide whether I watch these videos because of my interest in the history of our trains or because I have a crush on Rebecca lol ;-)
Glad you enjoyed the Video
@@pwhitewick ... Tks for taking my comment in good heart & in the light-hearted manner in which it was meant, Have an epic weekend :-)
@ 2.50, "that's not something you see every day of the week Maisie!"
My thoughts entirely.
Hi, did you leave DISUSED behind? and upgrade to abandoned Stations/Railways/Tunnels?
😂...... Appealing to the RUclips god that is the "Algorithm". For it must be obeyed.
Cracking video as ever. When is the Monsal Trail getting done?
We covered it around a year ago (ish), check out "The Peak Line" video. 👍👍
@@pwhitewick I will thanks once I've finished listening to Wildwood Kin's new album.
Good
Thank you. 👍
Sir can you elaborate the accident happened in the last station. I always wait for your videos. All the best team
Thank you. I believe the accident happened on one of the inclines and a number of passengers where killed.
7:10
you can get up there , if you ever do a video on this again hit me up il show you ,
Have you heard of Monkton Farleigh !
Were the locomotives at that time powerful enough to cope with those inclines, or did they either hook up a 2nd one or split the train for two runs?
The stopping on the inclines was it seems the problem, shortlived station as Paul mentioned.
Personally I would like to see all the features on the one line, stations, tunnels goods yards etc in one vid. Gets a bit confusing, particularly here on the other side of the world
I agree LDN. Tricky as there is soooo much to explore here. I think we missed a tunnel and didn't have time to see all the inclines. Perhaps we will come back.
No, locomotives was NOT used to pull train uphill.
Carriages was attached to line at bottom of incline and pull by stationary steam engine.
At the same time other carriage giong down the hill at another end of line to compensate some weight.
by Wikipedia:
High Peak Junction lies at the bottom of the steep Sheep Pasture incline (some 1320 yards in length at a gradient varying between 1:8 and 1:9), and following a runaway in 1888 a catch pit was constructed, the two lines passing either side of it. In this accident (of which there are a number of varying versions), it would seem that a wagon loaded with lime and a brake van containing gunpowder broke free from a train, hurtling down the incline at speeds of up to 120 mph. Failing to take the bend at the bottom, they then ran across the site, jumping across both the canal (damaging the bank) and the double tracks of the Midland Railway before one of the canisters exploded in the adjacent field. Minutes later the London passenger train passed.[8][9] Wreckage seen in the catch pit today dates from a further runaway in the 1950s.
@@stanley3647 Thanks, I'd forgotten they used cables & stationary steam engines for inclines.
s'oooo interesting.
Cheers Keith. Glad you liked this one.
Hiya
just to say your in my area - meaning where I have explored on my Mountain bike!!! - @ 6:08 to 612 - I have cycled along that bit about a year ago!!! @6:17 Harper Hill means your Near Buxton - At Harper Hill is Solomon's Temple - Here are a few links that might interest you!!! ;) Solomon's Temple 360 View - ruclips.net/video/7VOih5nnPvE/видео.html & Tower With Great View (Solomon's Temple) ruclips.net/video/xsQ3-S2Vs2U/видео.html
Also interestingly enough @ 7:55 at the H. S. E. Site there is actually a bit of the old Track now a path way were you can cycle & walk along goes past the H. S. E. & you can see they have built about 100 meters of there own track & placed an old 1960's (I think) London underground Train - I did make a video but I can't find it - other wise I would of sent you the Link!!!
Hey Jimy thank you and thanks for sharing the links and information.
No Problem - well if you are prepared to venture in to Derbyshire & to the Cromford and High peak railway & Harper Hill - then you might aswell venture a little further to the Monsal Trail (it used to be a Midland Railway line until it closed in 1968!!!) - why??? because there are a few abandoned Stations along it :-
Blackwell Mill - (this is near the Buxton End of it!!!) all there is left of it are 2 platforms & a Navies Hut complete with a small stove!!! (There is a gate you have to climb over marked "Private" though to get to it - not sure if you want to do that though???) There is also a Cycle Hire here aswell - Lovely helpful folk who run it :)
(Not being rude or funny but the short about 110 meters between Cressbrook Tunnel & Litton Tunnel is called "Water-Cum--Jolly"!!! & yes it is actually spelt that way!!! ;) lol)
- A few years ago I was cycling along that section & this old respectable looking lady stop me & ask me where was "Water-Cum--Jolly" is - but I don't think that she realised that it was spelt the rude way may be spelt "Come" instead!!! I didn't have the heart to tell her that - didn't want to shock her - so I just chuckled to myself!!! lol
Millersdale Station - (In it's day used to be the biggest on this Planet - NO not really!!! Just the biggest on this line only!!! It used to have 5 platforms - only about 3 remain now!!!) Now has a Café in it & the Engine Shed (next to it) is now under Restoration!!!
Monsal Dale Station - all there is left is 1 platform (with a gap behind it where there used to be a siding!!!) & opposite that platform (if you can find them in the weeds & a little to the right) you can see the remains of the wooden platform supports!!!
(Check out the View @ Monsal Viaduct (just before you head into the Tunnel!!!) then also just before you head into the tunnel go up the VERY steep path on the left & @ the top not only there is a better view of the Viaduct, but make sure you get some thing to eat & Drink @ the Monsal Head Hotel (cos that is just where I happen to work! :) !!!)
Great Longstone Station - The Station building is now a Private residents but @ least you can still walk along 1 of the Platforms (The left 1 & half along the right platform!!!)
Hassop Station - Now been turned in to a Café, book shop & a Cycle Hire place!!!
& lastly there is Bakewell Station - Now turned in to offices!!! There is an info sign with photos of it how it used to look like, (apart from the passing Train in the Photo) play a game of "spot the differance" & see what has gone since the photo had been taken!!!
Look out for all the info boards (most of them have old b/w photos on them) along the M. T. (Monsal Trail) - ok I said that the Station were abandoned - that was a little white lie - sorry - some are (some have been repurposed) - some not but it is worth your while to walk along all of the 8 & 1/2 miles of the Trail with the Stunning View along it & places to eat (Like the Monsal Head Hotel aka "The Monsal" or "Monsal Head"!!!
I thank you :)
👏❤️😁Xx
Mind the gap, between what Paul says and the actual name of the railway.
The....High....Peak and Cromford... No wait. Cromford and Peak High!?!? 😳
@@pwhitewick Yep, it's definitely one of those. But which one?!!!!!!
You couldn't film near the Lab because...?
Quite a few scary signs up. Didn't have a good feel about the place and no real reason to stick around there.
🖖🏽👍🏼😊 🚂 I
Leaky lime stone so no culverts required on that part of the line!!
Ah so the water is already well under the surface away from the embankments?
Another name could have been the disused stations that didnt want to be shown, lol
Yup. Only open for around 3 years and close over 140 years ago!
Sorry Robin Jones...but I just have to echo you.......
It would be good if you had a plan/organised access instead of just ticking stations off without actually visiting, just saying cause it’s a waste of my time.👎 this wouldn’t happen with Martin Zero🤔🏴
All the stations on this line were closed in 1877. The remains of some are on an active railway, the rest we either got to (such as hurdlow) or couldn't get to because they were on HSE land. Which stations in particular would you have preferred us to have got closer to and how? Thanks in advance.
Not safe to show your children in Videos.
Because? (And they aren't actually in this video).