How we set up our RV Solar Panels, Inverter and Batteries - Ep. 36 - Full Time RV Living
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Our Solar system set up, is one of the biggest questions we get asked about. For those of you that have asked....we have finally put together a video just for you! We dive into the details of our solar set up, our solar panels, our inverter, our chargers, our battery banks and how and why we installed this system. We discuss how it works, how we did it and even how we would change it (looking back in hindsight). This is a very informational video out "techy-things" and RV solar, so it is a little different from our normal travel videos. Hope you enjoy it!
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I like it! Keeping the solar system separate makes it simpler and no accidental wiring screw ups. More power to you.
Thank you for a simple run down of how and why on your solar panel set up.... The simple way you explained even I could understand what you did and why... Praying blessings your way...
Basically you made a solar generator! Excellent I love it! I'm stealing your idea, it's simple and it's what I've been looking for. Thank you for sharing!
Happy to help! I also listed all supplies and items I used to make this set up in the description portion of this video. It will take you right to the links of what I used. Hope this helps and good luck!
Nice set up. Just gotta make sure the fridge is on "gas only" when using inverter, in "auto" it always chooses shore power and in this case the batteries. May wanna invest in Trimetric battery monitor, best thing ever. Best wishes to you and your family and thank you for the videos. God bless you guys.
You are correct I did not mention that the fridge and the electronic water heater both should be turned to gas only. Thank you!
I have a lot to learn about solar, but, I LOVE the flexibility of having the solar panels on the ground to position them just right to get the maximum amount of power from the sun. Thanks for sharing.
HI, noticed many rv's place the panels on the ground. some even they them flat without the framework. I got tired of that and now rigged up plastic arms with connectors and use 2 panels as window awnings to block sun from the rig. they are angled to capture more sun . so the rig stays cool and provides solar without getting the panels all dirty. they just lift off when closing up. just another choice. I love your pvc pipe frame however.
Excellent ideas for setup. I've struggled with how to minimize the house battery, inverter and charger loop...while keeping it hassle free. You've solved that dilemma.
Love your videos and what you and your family are doing. Bless you in your travels and your missions.
See you on the road.
A little something that can help keep all your batteries up when towing is a Battery isolator , It allows all the batteries in your system to be charged from the tow vehicle when running. It connects from the Alternator to each battery in your system. I installed one on own John Deere motor-home to keep Motor starting, Generator and cabin batteries fully charged.
Finally! I've been spending days trying to find someone that set up a system like yours. I want to set one up the same way.
I have to agree with Mark. But I also learned something new by how you setup your flex-panels into the PVC frame...OUTFREAKINGSTANDING!
Glad you liked it, thanks!
Johnson Longman I would be much better to roof mount your panels. They are not producing anything while traveling.
Excellent video! I ordered the same wifi router, already have a yagi for it, and got the same cell booster! Looks like I just found my solar setup! Love the AGM's, bet they were $$$....I'll go all Trojans, have a 5th wheel with a generator spot I'll be using. Thanks so much for all your videos....Stay safe, happy travels.
We all find ourselves calling it 110, 115, 120, truly it’s 120/240 in the US but splitting hairs anyway. It’s cool how many different ways things can be done.. I don’t think charging the front batteries from the back batteries is the most efficient way, plus taking 12v to run an inverter, to charge front batteries and a 12 volt converter definitely has huge losses, but you have fair reasons to do what you’re doing and in the end, it’s free power from the sun anyway. Enjoyed your video.
Excellent video. Excellent ideas. I'm just getting started on a solar system for my 20 foot trailer. I think I'll be watching this video at least a couple of times.
I like your system having separate battery configurations. I think I'll fashion mine after yours with the exception of adding a Blue Marine Switch (1,2,1+2, off) after the charge controller to select what set of batteries to charge, the stand alone, the original coach batteries, or both at the same time. Nice video...thanx!
I really like the way you have your solar system setup with two independent battery system. That is a great idea. I am going to try to do the same with my Travel Trailer. I use Trojan AGM batteries and have them all inside under the couch up front. The reason why I like to keep all the batteries inside is the seasonal temperatures varies so much here in Utah that keeping the batteries outside on the tongue of the trailer really give the batteries some heavy abuse making their life shorter. Keeping the batteries inside, the temperatures aren't as hard on the batteries because the trailer keeps them from the elements. With the room I have up on the tongue now, I mounted a tongue tool box where I can keep outdoor essentials in them. I just hate to see your Trojan T105s have a shorter life because of the Seasonal temperatures. I hope this idea help.
That's the first time I've seen it done that way and it makes sense!
i like how you wired your inverter to plug your camper into it never seen that. im wanting. solar that would do us fine . thanks for that idea
Nice setup. I like how you have the 12VDC loads completely separate from the inverter batteries. Very clean installation! Safe travels...
Very informative! Thanks for taking the time out to explain your "solar system" lol! God bless you guys! Love your work with Samaritans Purse. They are a great ministry.
I think you should not run the 12V converter from the inverter, add up the conversion loss on the inverter plus the conversion loss on the 12V charger for the front batteries, you're probably looking at 60% loss. You'd do better with a dual battery charger and split it between the front and the AGMs, and you can set for "A" charge, "B" charge, or priority charge 1 fully then the other. Your conversion loss from solar to the battery charge would be around 30% total through the dual-bank charger. Charging batteries from batteries is almost always hugely inefficient.
I was thinking the same thing. I simply turn off the breaker for the converter as well as the refrigerator and A/C when I am running off the inverter.
Definitely. Wasting power through all of thhe chargers and inverters. Just use the power that you have as separate systems. There is really no logic in using one battery system to charge another like that. I like the idea of trying new things but this idea is very ineffective and supremely inefficient.
You knw what ur talkin about
I love it I want to set mine up the same way so I can take the solar system with me to a new rig
With this hook up you're running the converter which is drawing a lot to charge the front batteries. That's eating a lot of power. A marine AB switch is in order to draw off the desired bank. The draw gauges are more accurate with a shunt. Your system needs just a little more splitting to become efficient.
Nice video. Informative and very good use of links in the description for more info. It was not boring but then again I love this stuff and am an electrical engineer so I have that going for me. Haha
Great system, and smart to separate the two systems! I would suggest you not charge your front batteries from the rear - you should be able to isolate the charger on the front and still power the rest of your RV through the shore power plug. Going 12v, inverter to 110v, then converter/charger to 12v again is a huge waste of power. You'd be better off getting another small solar panel (even 40w) and small charge controller, to charge your front batteries (if you're sitting for a while), rather than that very inefficient 12-110-12v process. I assume your truck also charges your front house batteries while you are driving? If so, you may not even need a small panel for the front unless you are parked for more than a few days, especially if your lights are LED.
Excellent advice and a great idea I've been thinking of adding a front solar panel to the system. Thank you!
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I think the only advantage of this system is that it's easy to take out and doesn't integrate with the RV at all. It's very inconvenient to have a system like that unless of course you're mostly staying in places with full hookups. Personally I'd rather go with a fully integrated system by combining a MPPT charge controller with a hybrid charger/inverter and a control module so the system automatically distributes the various inputs (shore, generator, solar, batteries) to the rv where it's needed. Hybrid charger/inverters also combine multiple inputs to meet higher energy requirements, i.e. you're hooked up with a regular 15 amp extension cord at a friends house but you want to run the induction cooktop or the AC. The right inverter/charger can automatically supplement the 15amp shore power with solar and/or batteries to accommodate the power requirements for the AC unit without blowing your friends house fuse.
I really like your system. Great for boon docking. Thanks for sharing.
Ohhhh I think this is so smart! Is this how most RVers power their house with aftermarket solar? -- by plugging the hook up into an inverter??? I haven't seen that mentioned before! So many ideas.
Good idea! I may have to do that to my rig. I've been thinking about Solar that I could move to another MH.
Thanks for sharing.
Roll on.
I was wondering why you didn't run the cables on the outside of the camper through a conduit and then into the storage bay, instead of running them down the roof and into the bathroom and adding to the amount of holes you have in the roof. Also, have you considered adding a bug shield for the front of the panels to keep them clean and a little more aerodynamic?
Great video - thank you. It was exactly what I was looking for.
Just found you on RUclips... Love your Concepts and ideas. Thank you for educating me because I don't have any understanding how about solar or inverters and how they work together
Greetings, my system is very similar. I also run 3 systems (110, 12v & 24v) I went with 24 volt for efficiency. I have 1,000 watts of solar that I ground deploy. I also didn't want to impact the house battery because it powers the jack and supplies power to the breakaway switch. My inverter is 3,500 watts and has a built in transfer switch. So it is hard wired between the 110 shore power and the 110 side in my panel.On shore power or generator, it is a simple pass through otherwise the inverter kicks in. The inverter also charges my 24 volt bank when on shore power or generator.I do not use the house battery to power any other other DC loads. I have 4 AGM 6 volt batteries in series to give me 24 volts. I also have a step down transformer wired into the DC side of my panel that gives me 12 volts to power all other DC loads. The factory converter was disconnected from the DC panel, however I still feed it 110 from shore or my generator. I do not use the inverter to power the converter. Since I'm not using the house battery, it only charges on generator or shore power. Has worked out nicely.
Great video for us beginners! Would love to pick your brain for the changes we are making to our Class A. Thanks for sharing.
Just discovered ur RUclips channel, and it is great. I too don’t understand about using all plugs in trailer with new solar setup. I understand how u wired the female 30Amp connector directly into the inverter, but am missing how the other end of a loose cord works with all your existing presided AC outlets. I have a B+ (not a trailer), so that may be where confusion occurs. In my motor home, my shore power connection is fixed on side of motor home, and I plug one end of my 30 A cord to it, and other to campsite hookup box. Is the other end of your cord plugged into your shore connection on your trailer? Because, it looks like it is just rolled up in that compartment?? Please expound on that part of connection. Thanks.
Love your Idea!!!! I think something like this is better for me. I just want to Boondock sometimes. Nothing long term. This will make it easier for me to maneuver and set up without extensive work on my trailer. Are you still enjoying this setup? What (if anything) do you wish you did differently? And, if you don't mine sharing, how much did this setup cost you? Thanks for the video. It is very informative and helpful.
So, would you run the generator for a while overnight to charge either the front or bank banks back up to full? At 60-70%, that doesn't leave you a lot of 12V power left for the night, if I understand it right.
This helped me so much! I want to be able to plug my trailer into the inverter and have access to all the power in the trailer but didn't know how to do it without creating that charging loop. Now I know! although we leave our trailer unattended for all week as we can only access it on the weekends so I need to make sure my batteries are always charging. So if I do the front battery system, maybe I should do separate solar so I don't need to leave my inverter on all week?
Again another great video, I'm new to the r v solar world and I think you set you is a great idea. Question of another topic, your wifi and cell booster, what brand names are they? Where did you pick them up and would you recommend them? Thanks for all the videos, keep them coming!!!
Nicely done. Thanks for the info & ideas.
Good Morning. Thank you for the youtube. That is a good idea. Storage of the panels is the one think i think about. Jack
Very nice job. Nice and simple. Love your DYI solar panels My only concern is putting that much weight in the back of the trailer could cause sway. You need enough tong weight to prevent sway.
You are correct and this was a concern, but we also knew we were adding a lot of additional items for full time living. So with some careful thought to balance we kept heavier items in the front and did not add anything else heavy to the back of the trailer. I will even move things around sometimes when our tanks are full or empty to help compensate for the changes in weight. Its become a balancing act but have not had any problems. We try to be more tongue heavy when ever were not sure. This trailer also allows for 200lbs to be added to the very back on the extended rear bumper/bike rack which we do not use.
Excellent video and the clarity is a plus; what type of video blogging camera are you using?
Awesome set up!
Thank you thank you. This validates my Frankenstein Solar Generator system I created.
Nice setup! You might want to look into a Bogart TriMetric 2030-A battery monitor ((flush mount) they are very accurate and do several functions.
Like the way you set up you solsr. Did you have yo reinforce the floor in your pass through storage?
Great video BTW, like the setup.
Wow, great! Can you use water pump and furnace from rear batteries? I'm thinking no? Unless you wired them to AGM batteries? Or do you just turn on front batteries when you need water and furnace heat? Questions, questions... Thanks! Watched again, think I figured it out; of course, front batteries are always connected to water pump and furnace all the time! Like they say, duh. Well, I'm back 4/13/17, watching for THURD time. I ain't right. Marc and Julie, of RV love, has a new video in their solar and it made me want to, see yours again. I still don't know how much I will spend for solar/generator, etc. Gotta have power!
6:24 I'm curious why you bought those bus bars and your not using them? They are intended to be used in such a fashion as to avoid putting all the wires on the same post. Each screw along the length of the bar is meant to take a wire of its own thus eliminating the need to gang them up on the "feeder" lug of the bar.
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Very cool, I seen a video of people using lithium Ion batteries. Was wondering if you seen any of these and if it's something you might use in the future? I'm not even sure if they're even compatible with solar.
Love your videos, thanks for sharing. I'm sure you've shared this elsewhere but I'm curious about your rig. What is the dry weight of your trailer? Actually, what is the make and model of the trailer. Also wondering about your tow vehicle. What is the vehicle make and model? And what is the tow rating?
Great video and I really like your logic as to having 2 separate systems! Ihave a couple of questions though.1 Your AGM battery charger for the AGM batteries, Does the power for this AGM charger come from when you are hooked up to shore power or a generator? and can you charge the AGM batteries using both solar and shore/generator at the same time.2 can you give a link for the AGM battery charger please?3 Can you give a link to the video where you installed the RV plug into the inverter.thank you again great video.
What is your big antenna used for? Cellphone, tv? Also which batteries operate your refrigerator?
I really liked the video thanks. Gave me some good ideas. Just wondering. Do you feel you have a lot of power loss by stepping up the power from the solar panels through the invertor and then stepping that down again to charge the front batteries?
Just so you know it's ok to say 120v or 110v. It's the same thing. In fact in a house power actually fluctuates from 110-130 depending how far out of town you are and distance to the nearest transformer. Also, 220v & 240v are the same. Take a look at regular lightbulbs sometime. Some say 120v while others will say 115v and if you look at lightbulbs listed as "rough" service they will say 130v. Those aren't the voltages they require to operate, those are the max voltages they can tolerate without blowing or failing. This is why the "rough" service bulbs cost more and also why you should always use them if you live out of town and/or use them in portable work lights. The filaments are stronger. By the way I love your set up but I have to agree with several of the comments about doing the 12v-120v-12v being inefficient.
Did I miss something? How do you charge the four batteries when you have shore power?
I'm looking at the 320watt system with about 500ah of batteries. Gota love COMM UPS batteries.
Now, do you have a video that shows more hands on illustration? Thanks for sharing.
Im sure for others that like your videos, the "commercialization" factor (music montages, drone flyover shots etc) work for them. However there are a bunch of us that like the more bare bones approach to information about what you did or are doing.
Nice set up wow!!!
Very informative video. I like your setup.
That was a long haul from Baton Rouge to Comstock. Did you stop overnight on the way?
We did stop in Lake Conroe, Texas to see some other full time friends we have
I am still in the planning phase for our solar set up. Hoping to install in summer of 2018. Your approach is very interesting. I was thinking about keeping the original battery in the camper as a back up with an A/B switch and separate charger. Currently running 2 six volt, and will be installing two more in a couple weeks. Totally off topic but where did you get your flag pole mounted to your ladder?
Thanks for watching! We love the Flag Pole company and you get the link right to it off our link in the description area above!
I see your paralleled your solar panels. Wouldn't they be better in series with that long wire run? Can your solar controller handle the higher voltage input?
With an easy start will it turn on your AC?
can you tell me which video you show how to wire the 30 amp plug into your inverter?
So you all were in my hometown of Baton Rouge Louisiana.
Great system, especially the solar panel frame/support. I can't figure out how you get T fittings on the top pipe, then are able to rotate it.
I am getting ready to do this this weekend. I can see that if you glue the frames then no glue on the T's it should work great
U can watch RV with Tito and he shows step by step how to do this PVC frame that he suctions to windows.
Thanks for posting!
Was it absolutely necessary to hardwire a 30A receptacle to the inverter? Wouldn't using an adapter on your shore power cord accomplish the same thing?
Rodney Gravenor I Was wondering the same thing since there is no way I would attemp to wire a 30A receptical myself ugh
Wondering the same thing. Can't you use the same adapter that you would use from generator to shore power cord?
What is that thing you have off of the ladder? it almost looks like a PVC pipe? How come you don't have a can Antenna for the Wi-FI? Then flash the router to a dd-wrt so that way you can adjust the RF power to the router. Then from the router install some either net RJ-45 jacks and run them from the back of the router.
Do you have any plans to install a wind turbine for cloudy but windy days?
How did you connect the voltmeter? Why doesn’t it have clips or connectors? Looks like a splice job. Is there a similar one with connectors?
I like your solar set up. I may copy what you did to add solar to our rig. What brand of AGM batteries do you have?
Hi Mike thanks for watching! I put all products and items I used (with direct links to each product) in the description portion of this video, hope that helps!
I was wondering the same thing, mainly cause I canN't see them in the links area
So when running off the inverter you are also charging the front batteries through the trailer converter.. Correct ?
Cant seem to find your video that you referenced or mentioned converting or rewiring your inverter to the shore power plug? Which episode is it?
Talk about your boosters for cell phone and tv, thanks
I watched this earlier then I just watched it again. I like the idea of using solar to recharge the "House" batteries without tying them directly into the solar panels. It is safer and makes the system easier to disconnect and keep when you sell the trailer.
Is two solar panels enough for your system? I would think you'd need at least 4 to keep your battery bank full.
This is not to criticize but very important. So you use 200 w solar to the charge controller to charge the large battery bank. Then use the inverter to power another charger for the separate house battery's. Its very inefficient due to panels only put out 90% of rating, PMW controller looses 30%(MPPT only10% loss) Inverter looses 5-10% , your panel wiring is too long for #10awg conductors loss of 8% as you have them connected in parallel, series for you would be better. And Ohms law calculations (180 watts divided by 21.7 open circuit volts = 8.29 Amps show that it is impossible for you to ever get 15 - 18 amps , your controller read out has to be wrong if you claim this much amperage. Also correct conductor sizing and fuse size and placement are needed for fire safety. I have engineered systems for years and it boggles my mind that someone would advise you to do this. I have showed it to my colleges and they are just as puzzled.
I think charging your front battery from the back batteries by changing power to 120 V then back to 12V you loose to much. I think a switch that you can charge all battery from solor without changing it to 120V. A switch will keep them different or together..
What switch?
What swicth if you please?
Thank you
the 2000 watt inverter is really high price, silky questions are other inverters able to be rigged like you did putting the female 30a you wired in?
Gary Hallas Sr. yes. you can use other inverter as long as it has a panel on the inverter. to hard wire it. make sure you get a sin wave inverter
In which video do I see how you hardwired your inverter? Thanks
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So the best I can tell, your battery output to the Inverter is 24VDC and your charging your batteriers with 12VDC from the panels and the charge controller? I say this because your listed Inverter ( Samlex PST-2000-24 PST Series Pure Sine Wave DC-AC Power Inverter, 2000W Continuos Power Output), requires 24VDC input. I think something is wrong here maybe.
I was wondering the same. Looks like he has the AGM batteries wired in series for 24vdc to the inverter.
very smart idea thanks
I was thinking about running my 30 amp with 15 amp adapter and plug into my 1000 watt inverter hooked to battery up front to run the tv as its 110. I this a good idea to do it the way I said?
Like your setup. Would duplicate it for sure.
How much did the entire setup cost you?
Great info
What do you run your fridge off of ?
are you going to show how you wired your inverter to plug into the camper?
If you watch the video at 5:24 I show the trailer 30 amp plugged into the inverter female 30 amp plug. If your wondering about how I wired the plug into the inverter that's in another video, here's the link....
ruclips.net/video/LxHw7IgKrCA/видео.html
I show it at 7:50 into the video.
Hope that answers your question
Why do you have a battery charger? Doesn't your solar panels charge your AGM batteries?
Would this set up work on a motor home {class c}?
Can you run indefinitely on this setup or would you need more panels and batteries?
Thats a good questions I don't think with this set up we could run indefinitely. We would need lots of sunny days in a row and at least 1 or maybe even 2 more panels. But we have done up to 7 days with no problem. Its all about how much you conserve and how many hours of sunshine you get.
Great videos, by the way...Thank you.
What happens if you run too many amps, does the converter just shut off, or do you blow a 110 fuse that you can trip and reset?
The inverter has an alarm that will ring when you are drawing to many amps and will shut down before there is any damage. Once you lower the usage you can turn it back on and your good to go
thanks for sharing
Aren’t you still looping your system?
What does that set up do to your converter.
Thanks
Why not use 12v instead of 6v batteries?