damn why y'all so mad already? Its just a compilation of idols singing, never told they're the best, never put your faves down, tf got y'all so worked up? ok anyways, looks like engagement coming my way and success going to hybe artists, while y'all remain miserable 💖
they're literally speedrunning signs of insecurity. bragging, approval seeking, jealousy, bullying, aggression; they got it all as soon as they read "hybe" anywhere-
Well “HYBE artists have been facing cristicisms just because of a few bad moments” and “it’s mostly the BIG 3 stans mad at…” sound like you mean that they don’t deserve the criticism but they truly need better vocal training.
Do you remember Jimin, JK & Jin singing Don't leave me in acapella? Yesterday i suddenly remembered it and went to watch it and their vocals sounded HEAVENLY, kpop stans who say BTS vocal line is bad are CRAZY 😭😭
I really want to see the day hybe debut a full vocal group. I’m not saying it has to be a group with only main vocalists, but still a powerhouse group like nmixx or aespa. Obviously I also hope that hybe will improve their current idols’ vocal training because there are so many hybe idols with beautiful voices and vocal colors.
frr but considering how kpop is still very much focused on dance and performance, it seems unlikely. probs if this hate train gets too overwhelming or if a release from nmixx or kiss of life become huge hits- idk really😭 but one can wish
love how people already made bitter comments before the video even started lmao. yall sure love making "constructive criticism". hilarious how bitter and hateful one can be towards a music company while ignoring the glaring flaws of their own favs label. kpop stans never fail to make me laugh.
Going through the comments realized I am the one you are referring to. I do criticize my favs company especially because I want them to hire good producers upgrade their songs. And for your info 1 of my 2 top groups in from Hybe lol
@@FlyKitty-ur9vo hello, although you also wrote comments, i wasnt talking about you specifically, tho its interesting you thought i was. most of the comments yesterday were negative, just degrading groups for no reason before the video was even out. thats why i put "constructive criticism", since they'll just say that hybe groups suck with a laughing emoji. the only point that matters: if you really care for your favs to improve, criticize those who are actually at fault. but complaining about hybe as if one guy is singlehandedly managing these idols is not only wrong but also couldn't be less productive, and thats sadly what i see most people do. have a nice day.
@@machinelearner108 i dont know how much i agree with your opinion regarding hybe groups being generally uninteresting or having no integrity. im no hybe stan by any means and dont care about most of these groups, so dont get me wrong, but at least from what ive heard and know til now, some groups do have interesting songs, and a few do participate in the process. not too confident about this as i dont stan them, but im pretty sure txt started to contribute to the writing almost since debut. its important to note the differences between groups without ignoring that they aren't just all hybe groups, but come from different labels that work under it, and will therefore have different ways of making the groups work. thats the biggest problem i see when people criticize "hybe groups". txt is not really comparable to enhypen for example. i think the biggest flaw in these people's perception is the expectation that every group under hybe will have the same authentic and involved path as bts. they really project everything that makes bts great onto these artist and shit on them for not doing it. no artist under the big 3 get so much hate for not contributing to the lyrics or help creating a whole storyline. they have this expectation, and therefore a big sense of disappointment or even betrayal if they dont fulfill them. hybe isnt on a mission to create groups to carry on bts' legacy. its not wasted, bts is still here and they'll continue doing their thing, just like all these groups are their own, they are not the next bts and dont try to be. these expectations are on the fans, not the artist or label. and like i said, i dont stan them, but i disagree that they're significantly worse than other kpop groups. the most popular groups under the big 3 are almost all a snooze fest for me, i might like a few individual songs but to me they're equally nonsensical and lacking integrity. it is just kpop after all, and bts remains as the anomaly.
@@machinelearner108 a lot of these are based on assumptions and are purely subjective, so im not sure whats there to say. making the assumption that the entirety of hybe, which again, are multiple labels working by themselves and not as one big entity, are producing music without any thought or love put in, is not a reasonable claim. just as it is not reasonable to claim that any of the examples you named do put in love, or significantly more love in it. i dont see how any of these are arguments based on reality instead of taste and preference. going on to compare txt with groups you deem better just again, doesn't seem productive for any of this. the fact is that they have some credits, that's it. its nonsensical to me to bring up groups with more credits, just as it would be to bring up groups who have 0 credits just to brag about txt's. it also doesn't matter if a group is extremely involved in writing if the finalized song sounds bad to me. the music is nothing *for you* just like 90% of all kpop groups arent for me. what i dont like is stating this as a fact, because its not. no matter from what perspective you speak, its your subjective perspective, its harmful to the discussion to pretend like its the universal truth that "there's just nothing going on." also very confused you're adding bts to that list, as they have been involved more than some of your examples and arent just making generic hits. unless of course you are just focusing on the last viral songs, in which case, thats very annoying and tiring. have you listened to the rap line? i dont see the uninvolved generic hit songs you speak of, i see a lot of integrity and love for the music. also, i too wish that jhope had more promotions, but please dont act like hybe is sabotaging him, im very tired of it. the bts members have made it clear with each of their solos that they are in control of how the promotion looks like, hence why it's different for each of them. this is part of a dance documentary, and he is not even here right now. adding to all of this, some kpop stans are still aggressively trying to get people to boycott hybe, aka bts, which didn't help either. all things considered, jhope did good and i personally couldn't care less about other groups surpassing him. i like his music so i listen to it, and thats all that matters in the end. its music.
@@black_pinksaranghe Remember Born pink concert them messing up their set was viral every other day . How do you not have anything to criticise ? Their singing , dancing , stage presence everything is lacking also their song quality going down
Really needed this because the amount of hate and bullying going towards hybe idols is appalling , the harassment is getting out of hands all big 3 stans are coming together to bully them and accusing them of payola and what not . And also if god forbid one of idols gets into depression or does sucicde wacth these same haters saying protect idols . They cant stand the fact that a group who was not from big 3 without any industry support managed to be at the top
@@black_pinksaranghe Umm no there are too many untalented idols in big3 as well such as jisoo , sehun , tzyu , yeri etc yall just dont want to accept it . And just because they sing well doesnt mean you can harass or bully them
I personally dont really care about the other groups under hype (excluding txt)but the amount of hate all the groups get for simply being under hybe is nuts. Who actively watches a group they dont like just to hate on them😐
If these groups different company they would not be receiving this much hate(aside from sm since thir only known for vocals) but other than that yg jyp if they were thier they would not get this much hate honestly.
Cause yg is a hip hop based company and they have amazing rappers if not singers and jyp live singing is the best you must be kidding if you are saying this
@@demonicfly07 I think you might be misunderstanding what I said. I ment that if the other hybe groups were under a different company they wouldn't get as much hate and dragged for countless days, that's all I'm saying.
BTS vocals are really beautiful and unique ik jimin is not a strong vocalist but his voice and vocals are heavenly beautiful ik sone people made fun of his voice calling it feminine etc and jin's vocals are in epiphany the emotions he put in his voice his voice is just perfect, Taehyung's vocals are just heavenly like how can army call him weak vocalist i dont understand he proves his vocals many times his vocals are my favourite and he is teachniqually good too specially his vocals in for us came from heaven tho and our golden vocalist Jungkook i am in love with his vocals he is main vocalist for a reason he can take anyone to heaven with his vocals 😍😍 You should use for us and Black swan for Taehyung's vocals but its also goos thanks for this video 💜💜
What make me giggle is the most is when i see hate comment about their vocals and see blackpink in their pfp like girl the audacity 💀 you stan a group that only went famous because of media play and industry support by their company there is no single member that can sing live in the group you stan .
you're right for the most part, but we can't deny Rosé is a good singer and she sang live in many stages in which the other members didn't (tho I don't personally like her voice and I'm aware her technique is hated on by many), still, she is a main vocalist for a reason
I agree that blackpink got viral due to media, but that's known as promotion, just because xyz debuted jn a privileged company, it doesnt make the less talented, and because a group debuted in small company it doesn't make them more talented, Yall love hating on blinks, as if other fandoms did not harras or literally threw the hybe idols, blackpink did the entire coachella live, only lisa can't sing which we all should admit! what makes me giggle even more is that no comment is talking about onces? Or armies who hated so much on newjeans huh?
@@Fatalhee Other fandoms did but majority of it came from blinks and except rose none of bp member can sing well . And when did once or armys hate on new jeans we literaly treat them as sister fandom and defend them from harassment from blinks go ask new jeans fans
Atleast they take the criticism and try to improve and give their best😭❤️❤️ i am a hybe & jyp fan and i am really proud of my fav grps, like they surely burn the stage when they perform🎉❤
They're great vocalists, and I think it'd help prove this point further if the compilation was only of clips in which there isn't a heavy backtrack or the vocals haven't been edited or pre-recorded. There are several videos made by kpop fans (like shanlié) on how to identify each in case you're interested :)
@@hopeflakez thank you for answering, I wrote my comment because I picked up autotune in some clips and in others there are certain parts that sound too stable for it to be humanly impossible due to the choreos. I don't mean to hate, thanks for compiling these clips and going through the efforts of editing a video to stop people's hatred.
@@nswreveexactly what i was thinking. So many of these clips seem to have autotune, as well as a HEAVY backtrack. With that being said, this is not hate but just my observation (saying this so the hybe wordshippers do not come after me-)
FINALLY....people critizing encores stage whereas those are moments where idols are supposed to have fun with the fans and not performing a whole song like wtf
It’s not like there are no Hybe idols who can sing live dear But let us criticize Hybe they have become so money hungry that they debut so many groups within the shortest time who are not well prepared. If you compare to the big 3.
need yall to understand that hybe is not comparable to the big 3 companies. these groups arent just under hybe, but made and managed by different labels. there is no "hybe way" of training or debuting like there is with sm or yg. so you can criticize the corporation hybe for being greedy, but thats different from criticizing the individual labels who make their own decisions with their artists.
@@ajlee2168 at the end of the day they are all under Hybe, even their MVs are on the same RUclips channel. When the groups are successful Hybe takes praise, they must as well take criticism if the idols they are producing aren’t well trained.
@@FlyKitty-ur9vo no, sorry thats on you. i praise the artist i like and their direct team, not hybe. if i dislike the music, i'll criticize the label/ producers, not the umbrella corporation they're part of. there isn't one big hybe man controlling every group. hybe isnt like the big 3, its on you if you dont understand that and just lump them together. saying you're aiming your criticism at hybe because others praise them isnt a logical argument either. if you care for their improvement, aim your criticism at the actual label in control of the idols. too many people dont understand this and just complain about hybe all day long as if thats gonna change anything and not just empty bitter words being thrown around. hope you understand.
And this ìs why people need to stop the Hatetrain. Deslite LSRFM's coachella performance, people literally only focus on that.. and saying "Girl.. shes a main vocal but she sounds like a roach" girl.. people are finding so many ways to hate on LSRFM and its so bogus. Also its okay to criticise but when people are saying they are only doing constructive criticism to ILLIT, its literally not even that. Its just hate. Look the girls are rookies, and hate comments literally affected Wonhee.
I came to know that bts aren't good vocalists not becuz they lacked in vocals but becuz 'x' person said that they belong to the tiers that aren't good vocalists.Never knew tiers existed up until i discovered kpop were everything is based on which tier u belong.
Tiers arent necessarily the main factor, its their vocal support that really matters the most. If you have stylistic vocalist like Jimin but have an unhealthy technique that causes you to not be able to sing the notes healthily, thats gonna be an issue.
@@emanueltheodorus1056 trust me i always find people who consider vocal support a main thing but some who doesn't, every one has something to say, the only thing is be it jimin or anyone mentioned on this video they can sing not really good but they aren't worse or bad either. I would never knew jimin is a weak vocalist (his one encore is a technical issue after that he did good in every other encore) if I didn't knew about tiers or kpop,always enjoyed music or singing of artists without criticism outside of kpop.
@@aaishaparveen2938 I'll refer to this video on why Jimin is a weak vocalist: ruclips.net/video/WKLJH4n86oE/видео.html There are obvious technique flaws when it comes to him singing because someone singing out of their supported range means that they are essentially damaging their vocal chords, and it the result would be shown on a progressive rate. The encore really just shows how bad he can sound with the continous straining on his voice.
Lmao, I watch the video, it's seems like telling grape taste to wolf .he wanted to criticize jimin but couldn't even explain a shit , couldn't even provide any clip other than 1 encore where technical issues take place in 10 years carrer , as he accepted that he was waiting for long to finally talk about him but couldn't find any single clip, if your first hate train for vocal with rape threats that he is getting since 2016 is a clip that get 40k qrt from animal name kpop stan that means he is indeed the best , also he called baekhyun from exo as a standard whe they were exposed multiple times for lip syncing at encore but they are sm , the og company who feed those creature so it's just"1 time in 10+ years carrer " as if their whole cue sheet was not MR, jimin is the one who go viral for his live singing at NPR TINY DESK, with actual music listener not self proclaimed vocal expert who is hypocrite and choose clip of encore that are MR as a standard, thank you @@emanueltheodorus1056
@@blossom6693 Lmao you aint seeing Jimin belting like ChenBaekSoo anytime soon. And he literally has other clips besides that encore. You are being purposely dense for fucks sake
Yall wanna hate so bad yall don’t know people can have bad vocals sometimes to yall act like it was a full time thing tf pls grow tf up if yall were gonna hate then why yall on here get tf on somewhere else and stop focusing on one thing
@@machinelearner108no way youre saying this when SME doesnt let any of their artists even pick up a pen.. nct the only ones who can remotely rap and even thats pushing it. svt and bts are THE selfmade/selfwritten idol groups
@@machinelearner108 txt have plenty involvement and production credits too. not comparable to skz, for example, but still i’d say comparable to twice (who are under jype) and its weird you dont consider svt or bts.. cus they are in fact under hybe. same can be said about how big bang are under YGE and write their raps and can actually rap well, had original music, meanwhile YGE also has bp who have 5 credits total and a mid discography. gidle, mamamoo, monsta x too are obviously great groups and i have so much respect for gidle especially, theyre one my ults, but none of them come close to svt or bts involvement. also for le sserafim, considering they only debuted in 2022, they have plenty credits. yunjin especially
@@machinelearner108 my favorite music comes from hybe and stray kids i just one of those groups that, although i appreciate how involved they are, that does nothing for me because i cant enjoy their music. so lets agree to disagree i guess
People are always interested in pointing out only others failures. No one considers the merits and good things that are done, only the bad is considered. It's so stupid.
who else was waiting for seventeen to pop up T-T anyway people are so pissed for no reason 💀 a few bad encores from some groups and suddenly hybe is the worst vocal company to exists. like, no
actually they can sing very well, when they perform they dance, you know hybe dance is very difficult that's why they gape while performing so their voices sound bad
Okay the parts you chose here are good. But pls do not try to defend some of the weak vocals. Bts has a really good and decent vocal line, they may not be technically top tier professionals in vocals but their live singing is godly. Txt and enhypen has decent and some skilled vocalists too. Newjeans, it's simple but clean, it suits their style and not every song needs a high note. But le sserafim clearly needs training asap. Chaewon and eunchae can handle but not consistent enough to carry all through. Fearnots can come at me idc! You can criticize the girls but don't bully them. Hybe has mediocre and below the standard vocalists "except few" . And why hide seventeen when they have one of the good vocal lines in kpop? And their live vocals are top notch, all the members are not skilled but can handle vocals really well..... In general Seungkwan, Dk and Jungkook are the top singers in hybe. I believe seungkwan is one of the top 5 vocalists of 3rd gen boy groups.
Crazy how you are defending whatever hybe is doing rn,like we all know theyre destroying kpop😭lesserafim and illit dont even have good vocals to start with,like give them damn vocal training before debuting 12 year old minors💀
@@Golden_kook yes,imagine giving them everything except vocal training? Kpop is about singing! Dancing and music come next😭hybe just debuted illit with no vocal training lol
@@Fatalheeothers are weak too, thats the point. TXT are weak, Enhypen are weak, New Jeans are weak, BTS are weak too. Not as much as the other 3 tho. And they have a strong rap line, so it's fine. Those other groups however are all vocal based, and none of them have any good vocalist. The only groups containing good vocalists (Seungkwan, DK, and Yuju) are those who debuted before HYBE was a thing.
Still they are not that good compare to others they need more training we know that they can do more better and a special request to hybe only provide a song to group which is according to their range
damn why y'all so mad already? Its just a compilation of idols singing, never told they're the best, never put your faves down, tf got y'all so worked up? ok anyways, looks like engagement coming my way and success going to hybe artists, while y'all remain miserable 💖
they're literally speedrunning signs of insecurity. bragging, approval seeking, jealousy, bullying, aggression; they got it all as soon as they read "hybe" anywhere-
People are so mad on Hybe Success, that's why they're arguing about a video that isn't even released yet.😂😂😂
Well “HYBE artists have been facing cristicisms just because of a few bad moments” and “it’s mostly the BIG 3 stans mad at…” sound like you mean that they don’t deserve the criticism but they truly need better vocal training.
Enhypens vocals are so underrated they deserve more attention 😭
Do you remember Jimin, JK & Jin singing Don't leave me in acapella? Yesterday i suddenly remembered it and went to watch it and their vocals sounded HEAVENLY, kpop stans who say BTS vocal line is bad are CRAZY 😭😭
@Jazmin22271 they are bad cause only two members have vocal support and others just strain their voice
@@demonicfly07 everytime technically good are not only good
@@demonicfly07i think it's only one of them, Jungkook who really has good vocals. Others just basic
@@demonicfly07 Jungkook is the only who had vocal support.
Btw i had to type hybe as Hayib to make the robot voice catch it correctly and not say Heeb 😭 i forgot to edit it later on.
New jeans vocals are so beautiful specially Hanni and Danielle's vocals I became thier vocal's fan from when i listen thier cover of celebrity 🩷🩷
Bts vocals>>>>
I really want to see the day hybe debut a full vocal group. I’m not saying it has to be a group with only main vocalists, but still a powerhouse group like nmixx or aespa. Obviously I also hope that hybe will improve their current idols’ vocal training because there are so many hybe idols with beautiful voices and vocal colors.
Yes me too, a full vocal group from hybe would be such a W
frr but considering how kpop is still very much focused on dance and performance, it seems unlikely. probs if this hate train gets too overwhelming or if a release from nmixx or kiss of life become huge hits- idk really😭 but one can wish
@@black_pinksaranghe I said that I hope they improve their vocal training
Enhypen improved so much!!! (Sunoo is so underrated too)
Fr!!
love how people already made bitter comments before the video even started lmao. yall sure love making "constructive criticism".
hilarious how bitter and hateful one can be towards a music company while ignoring the glaring flaws of their own favs label. kpop stans never fail to make me laugh.
Going through the comments realized I am the one you are referring to. I do criticize my favs company especially because I want them to hire good producers upgrade their songs. And for your info 1 of my 2 top groups in from Hybe lol
@@FlyKitty-ur9vo hello, although you also wrote comments, i wasnt talking about you specifically, tho its interesting you thought i was. most of the comments yesterday were negative, just degrading groups for no reason before the video was even out. thats why i put "constructive criticism", since they'll just say that hybe groups suck with a laughing emoji.
the only point that matters: if you really care for your favs to improve, criticize those who are actually at fault. but complaining about hybe as if one guy is singlehandedly managing these idols is not only wrong but also couldn't be less productive, and thats sadly what i see most people do. have a nice day.
@@machinelearner108 i dont know how much i agree with your opinion regarding hybe groups being generally uninteresting or having no integrity. im no hybe stan by any means and dont care about most of these groups, so dont get me wrong, but at least from what ive heard and know til now, some groups do have interesting songs, and a few do participate in the process. not too confident about this as i dont stan them, but im pretty sure txt started to contribute to the writing almost since debut. its important to note the differences between groups without ignoring that they aren't just all hybe groups, but come from different labels that work under it, and will therefore have different ways of making the groups work. thats the biggest problem i see when people criticize "hybe groups". txt is not really comparable to enhypen for example.
i think the biggest flaw in these people's perception is the expectation that every group under hybe will have the same authentic and involved path as bts. they really project everything that makes bts great onto these artist and shit on them for not doing it. no artist under the big 3 get so much hate for not contributing to the lyrics or help creating a whole storyline. they have this expectation, and therefore a big sense of disappointment or even betrayal if they dont fulfill them. hybe isnt on a mission to create groups to carry on bts' legacy. its not wasted, bts is still here and they'll continue doing their thing, just like all these groups are their own, they are not the next bts and dont try to be. these expectations are on the fans, not the artist or label.
and like i said, i dont stan them, but i disagree that they're significantly worse than other kpop groups. the most popular groups under the big 3 are almost all a snooze fest for me, i might like a few individual songs but to me they're equally nonsensical and lacking integrity. it is just kpop after all, and bts remains as the anomaly.
@@machinelearner108 a lot of these are based on assumptions and are purely subjective, so im not sure whats there to say. making the assumption that the entirety of hybe, which again, are multiple labels working by themselves and not as one big entity, are producing music without any thought or love put in, is not a reasonable claim. just as it is not reasonable to claim that any of the examples you named do put in love, or significantly more love in it. i dont see how any of these are arguments based on reality instead of taste and preference.
going on to compare txt with groups you deem better just again, doesn't seem productive for any of this. the fact is that they have some credits, that's it. its nonsensical to me to bring up groups with more credits, just as it would be to bring up groups who have 0 credits just to brag about txt's. it also doesn't matter if a group is extremely involved in writing if the finalized song sounds bad to me.
the music is nothing *for you* just like 90% of all kpop groups arent for me. what i dont like is stating this as a fact, because its not. no matter from what perspective you speak, its your subjective perspective, its harmful to the discussion to pretend like its the universal truth that "there's just nothing going on."
also very confused you're adding bts to that list, as they have been involved more than some of your examples and arent just making generic hits. unless of course you are just focusing on the last viral songs, in which case, thats very annoying and tiring. have you listened to the rap line? i dont see the uninvolved generic hit songs you speak of, i see a lot of integrity and love for the music.
also, i too wish that jhope had more promotions, but please dont act like hybe is sabotaging him, im very tired of it.
the bts members have made it clear with each of their solos that they are in control of how the promotion looks like, hence why it's different for each of them. this is part of a dance documentary, and he is not even here right now. adding to all of this, some kpop stans are still aggressively trying to get people to boycott hybe, aka bts, which didn't help either.
all things considered, jhope did good and i personally couldn't care less about other groups surpassing him. i like his music so i listen to it, and thats all that matters in the end. its music.
@@black_pinksaranghe Remember Born pink concert them messing up their set was viral every other day . How do you not have anything to criticise ? Their singing , dancing , stage presence everything is lacking also their song quality going down
Txt sound exactly the same as studio even singing live
Their vocals eat🔥✨
Really needed this because the amount of hate and bullying going towards hybe idols is appalling , the harassment is getting out of hands all big 3 stans are coming together to bully them and accusing them of payola and what not . And also if god forbid one of idols gets into depression or does sucicde wacth these same haters saying protect idols .
They cant stand the fact that a group who was not from big 3 without any industry support managed to be at the top
@@black_pinksaranghe Umm no there are too many untalented idols in big3 as well such as jisoo , sehun , tzyu , yeri etc yall just dont want to accept it . And just because they sing well doesnt mean you can harass or bully them
You mean a scandal and controversy filled label and bruh it's criticism since mostly their idols are just dancers and can't sing or rap
I personally dont really care about the other groups under hype (excluding txt)but the amount of hate all the groups get for simply being under hybe is nuts. Who actively watches a group they dont like just to hate on them😐
If these groups different company they would not be receiving this much hate(aside from sm since thir only known for vocals) but other than that yg jyp if they were thier they would not get this much hate honestly.
Cause yg is a hip hop based company and they have amazing rappers if not singers and jyp live singing is the best you must be kidding if you are saying this
@@demonicfly07 I think you might be misunderstanding what I said. I ment that if the other hybe groups were under a different company they wouldn't get as much hate and dragged for countless days, that's all I'm saying.
BTS vocals are really beautiful and unique ik jimin is not a strong vocalist but his voice and vocals are heavenly beautiful ik sone people made fun of his voice calling it feminine etc and jin's vocals are in epiphany the emotions he put in his voice his voice is just perfect, Taehyung's vocals are just heavenly like how can army call him weak vocalist i dont understand he proves his vocals many times his vocals are my favourite and he is teachniqually good too specially his vocals in for us came from heaven tho and our golden vocalist Jungkook i am in love with his vocals he is main vocalist for a reason he can take anyone to heaven with his vocals 😍😍
You should use for us and Black swan for Taehyung's vocals but its also goos thanks for this video 💜💜
Letsss gaurrrrrrrr .... 💃💃
What make me giggle is the most is when i see hate comment about their vocals and see blackpink in their pfp like girl the audacity 💀 you stan a group that only went famous because of media play and industry support by their company there is no single member that can sing live in the group you stan .
ATEEE
you're right for the most part, but we can't deny Rosé is a good singer and she sang live in many stages in which the other members didn't (tho I don't personally like her voice and I'm aware her technique is hated on by many), still, she is a main vocalist for a reason
The only one who can actually be a good soloist ROSÉ 🤌@@nswreve
I agree that blackpink got viral due to media, but that's known as promotion, just because xyz debuted jn a privileged company, it doesnt make the less talented, and because a group debuted in small company it doesn't make them more talented, Yall love hating on blinks, as if other fandoms did not harras or literally threw the hybe idols, blackpink did the entire coachella live, only lisa can't sing which we all should admit! what makes me giggle even more is that no comment is talking about onces? Or armies who hated so much on newjeans huh?
@@Fatalhee Other fandoms did but majority of it came from blinks and except rose none of bp member can sing well . And when did once or armys hate on new jeans we literaly treat them as sister fandom and defend them from harassment from blinks go ask new jeans fans
haerin and Hyein's tone is so underrated they are my fav voices in newjeans
Bts vocal line serving top tier vocals as always
Atleast they take the criticism and try to improve and give their best😭❤️❤️ i am a hybe & jyp fan and i am really proud of my fav grps, like they surely burn the stage when they perform🎉❤
Why are people so salty already damn😭
Just watched Le Sserafim's Coachella performance and damm my girlies slayed so hard...
They're great vocalists, and I think it'd help prove this point further if the compilation was only of clips in which there isn't a heavy backtrack or the vocals haven't been edited or pre-recorded. There are several videos made by kpop fans (like shanlié) on how to identify each in case you're interested :)
All these clips had little to no backtrack and completely live.
@@hopeflakez thank you for answering, I wrote my comment because I picked up autotune in some clips and in others there are certain parts that sound too stable for it to be humanly impossible due to the choreos. I don't mean to hate, thanks for compiling these clips and going through the efforts of editing a video to stop people's hatred.
@@nswreveexactly what i was thinking. So many of these clips seem to have autotune, as well as a HEAVY backtrack. With that being said, this is not hate but just my observation (saying this so the hybe wordshippers do not come after me-)
People are so mad on Hybe Success, that's why they're arguing on a video that isn't even released. 😂😂😂
@@black_pinksarangheSeventeen sneak
FINALLY....people critizing encores stage whereas those are moments where idols are supposed to have fun with the fans and not performing a whole song like wtf
hi. did you see Le Sserafim's coachella performance? they killed it
Yesss 😭😭 They ate so hard, the live vocals, stage performance everything was giving 🔥
TBH ! They're literally not ready for that 🚫🥸
It’s not like there are no Hybe idols who can sing live dear
But let us criticize Hybe they have become so money hungry that they debut so many groups within the shortest time who are not well prepared. If you compare to the big 3.
Hybe is a label? No?
need yall to understand that hybe is not comparable to the big 3 companies. these groups arent just under hybe, but made and managed by different labels. there is no "hybe way" of training or debuting like there is with sm or yg. so you can criticize the corporation hybe for being greedy, but thats different from criticizing the individual labels who make their own decisions with their artists.
@@ajlee2168 at the end of the day they are all under Hybe, even their MVs are on the same RUclips channel. When the groups are successful Hybe takes praise, they must as well take criticism if the idols they are producing aren’t well trained.
@@FlyKitty-ur9vo the video isn't even out, if you don't have something nice to say, keep your mouth shut flykitty
@@FlyKitty-ur9vo no, sorry thats on you. i praise the artist i like and their direct team, not hybe. if i dislike the music, i'll criticize the label/ producers, not the umbrella corporation they're part of.
there isn't one big hybe man controlling every group. hybe isnt like the big 3, its on you if you dont understand that and just lump them together.
saying you're aiming your criticism at hybe because others praise them isnt a logical argument either. if you care for their improvement, aim your criticism at the actual label in control of the idols. too many people dont understand this and just complain about hybe all day long as if thats gonna change anything and not just empty bitter words being thrown around. hope you understand.
The Hyein get up part has been stuck in my head
Yunjin ❤❤❤
And this ìs why people need to stop the Hatetrain. Deslite LSRFM's coachella performance, people literally only focus on that.. and saying "Girl.. shes a main vocal but she sounds like a roach" girl.. people are finding so many ways to hate on LSRFM and its so bogus. Also its okay to criticise but when people are saying they are only doing constructive criticism to ILLIT, its literally not even that. Its just hate. Look the girls are rookies, and hate comments literally affected Wonhee.
Can you please do a short dance ranking for hybe artist🥺 or the best in each group
I came to know that bts aren't good vocalists not becuz they lacked in vocals but becuz 'x' person said that they belong to the tiers that aren't good vocalists.Never knew tiers existed up until i discovered kpop were everything is based on which tier u belong.
Tiers arent necessarily the main factor, its their vocal support that really matters the most. If you have stylistic vocalist like Jimin but have an unhealthy technique that causes you to not be able to sing the notes healthily, thats gonna be an issue.
@@emanueltheodorus1056 trust me i always find people who consider vocal support a main thing but some who doesn't, every one has something to say, the only thing is be it jimin or anyone mentioned on this video they can sing not really good but they aren't worse or bad either. I would never knew jimin is a weak vocalist (his one encore is a technical issue after that he did good in every other encore) if I didn't knew about tiers or kpop,always enjoyed music or singing of artists without criticism outside of kpop.
@@aaishaparveen2938 I'll refer to this video on why Jimin is a weak vocalist: ruclips.net/video/WKLJH4n86oE/видео.html
There are obvious technique flaws when it comes to him singing because someone singing out of their supported range means that they are essentially damaging their vocal chords, and it the result would be shown on a progressive rate. The encore really just shows how bad he can sound with the continous straining on his voice.
Lmao, I watch the video, it's seems like telling grape taste to wolf .he wanted to criticize jimin but couldn't even explain a shit , couldn't even provide any clip other than 1 encore where technical issues take place in 10 years carrer , as he accepted that he was waiting for long to finally talk about him but couldn't find any single clip, if your first hate train for vocal with rape threats that he is getting since 2016 is a clip that get 40k qrt from animal name kpop stan that means he is indeed the best , also he called baekhyun from exo as a standard whe they were exposed multiple times for lip syncing at encore but they are sm , the og company who feed those creature so it's just"1 time in 10+ years carrer " as if their whole cue sheet was not MR, jimin is the one who go viral for his live singing at NPR TINY DESK, with actual music listener not self proclaimed vocal expert who is hypocrite and choose clip of encore that are MR as a standard, thank you @@emanueltheodorus1056
@@blossom6693 Lmao you aint seeing Jimin belting like ChenBaekSoo anytime soon. And he literally has other clips besides that encore. You are being purposely dense for fucks sake
This video was needed 🔥
BTS>>>>
Yall wanna hate so bad yall don’t know people can have bad vocals sometimes to yall act like it was a full time thing tf pls grow tf up if yall were gonna hate then why yall on here get tf on somewhere else and stop focusing on one thing
THE LAST CLIP OMG???
No doubt Hybe has the best idols
@@machinelearner108no way youre saying this when SME doesnt let any of their artists even pick up a pen.. nct the only ones who can remotely rap and even thats pushing it. svt and bts are THE selfmade/selfwritten idol groups
@@machinelearner108 txt have plenty involvement and production credits too. not comparable to skz, for example, but still i’d say comparable to twice (who are under jype) and its weird you dont consider svt or bts.. cus they are in fact under hybe. same can be said about how big bang are under YGE and write their raps and can actually rap well, had original music, meanwhile YGE also has bp who have 5 credits total and a mid discography. gidle, mamamoo, monsta x too are obviously great groups and i have so much respect for gidle especially, theyre one my ults, but none of them come close to svt or bts involvement. also for le sserafim, considering they only debuted in 2022, they have plenty credits. yunjin especially
@@machinelearner108 my favorite music comes from hybe and stray kids i just one of those groups that, although i appreciate how involved they are, that does nothing for me because i cant enjoy their music. so lets agree to disagree i guess
Wait TXT debuted before HYBE @@machinelearner108
txt are under bighit they debuted in 2019 4th march they are under bighit@@machinelearner108
People are always interested in pointing out only others failures. No one considers the merits and good things that are done, only the bad is considered. It's so stupid.
Btw would you do The Boyz dance ranking? I think Q and Juyeon are Tier 4 dancers at the very least
i think she said that Q is the best dancer, somewhere in mid tier 5
@@user-bv7rl9zj5x maybe mid-high but yeah ❤
@@hopeflakez Do you have the full list and their respective tiers
who else was waiting for seventeen to pop up T-T anyway people are so pissed for no reason 💀 a few bad encores from some groups and suddenly hybe is the worst vocal company to exists. like, no
actually they can sing very well, when they perform they dance, you know hybe dance is very difficult that's why they gape while performing so their voices sound bad
lmao
Okay the parts you chose here are good. But pls do not try to defend some of the weak vocals. Bts has a really good and decent vocal line, they may not be technically top tier professionals in vocals but their live singing is godly. Txt and enhypen has decent and some skilled vocalists too. Newjeans, it's simple but clean, it suits their style and not every song needs a high note. But le sserafim clearly needs training asap. Chaewon and eunchae can handle but not consistent enough to carry all through. Fearnots can come at me idc! You can criticize the girls but don't bully them. Hybe has mediocre and below the standard vocalists "except few" . And why hide seventeen when they have one of the good vocal lines in kpop? And their live vocals are top notch, all the members are not skilled but can handle vocals really well..... In general Seungkwan, Dk and Jungkook are the top singers in hybe. I believe seungkwan is one of the top 5 vocalists of 3rd gen boy groups.
wth this company did to them? WHY BRO
Not even surprised about BTS
But that clip of njs singing count on me omgg
Is Sakura better than Heeseung in open style?
Crazy how you are defending whatever hybe is doing rn,like we all know theyre destroying kpop😭lesserafim and illit dont even have good vocals to start with,like give them damn vocal training before debuting 12 year old minors💀
Yes le sserafim and illit are weak, what bout others? Hybe is a corporation, they ain't training the trainees, ask source music about le sserafim
Destroying kpop ? pls grow tf up
@@Golden_kook yes,imagine giving them everything except vocal training? Kpop is about singing! Dancing and music come next😭hybe just debuted illit with no vocal training lol
@@Fatalhee ask source music? It's under hybe and hybe is the ultimate company of all groups there💀
@@Fatalheeothers are weak too, thats the point.
TXT are weak, Enhypen are weak, New Jeans are weak, BTS are weak too. Not as much as the other 3 tho. And they have a strong rap line, so it's fine. Those other groups however are all vocal based, and none of them have any good vocalist.
The only groups containing good vocalists (Seungkwan, DK, and Yuju) are those who debuted before HYBE was a thing.
Still they are not that good compare to others they need more training we know that they can do more better and a special request to hybe only provide a song to group which is according to their range