Air NZ said on inspection, the airline’s engineering team confirmed it was not an engine overheat, rather a minor issue with an ancillary system pipe fitted to the engine.
It doesn't take long for the anti RR brigade to break cover with an inference of fault. How dare foreigners supply engines for an American aircraft. Well, if Boeing doesn't get its act together this year, its going to be foreign aircraft as well, because there will be little alternative........
Also worth pointout out that why the engines may we be fixed, they ain't all in service yet, RR last report was 85% of the fleet had been re-engined. But yeah not a good look for RR these last few years
@@AnIdiotAboard_ Cutting edge technology often throws up problems that need sorting. The Merlin had inumerable problems in development and after. Its how you deal with those problems that either maintains a good company reputation or not. Rolls Royce was totally honest about the problem with the Trent 1000. The first commercial jet airline in history, the De Havilland Comet, was truly cutting edge. Nobody knew about metal fatigue, and the loss of aircraft destroyed a great company that had built the Mosquito during WW2. That information was shared with Boeing, which made the 707 the successful aircraft it was. Two 737 Max's go down, and is subsequently grounded, despite the fact that its just an upgraded 737, itself a development of the 707, (ie seventy year old tech) and Boeing lied about its software problems, falsely blaming pilot error, and if it had been believed, there could have been more losses. But you know all this. So there are two ways to deal with technical problems that develop with civil aircraft. The first, to be honest about it, like RR, the second is to deny all responsibility, like Boeing. Despite that, I think Boeing is a great company that will get over its problems, and I wish them well. "Not a good look for" Boeing "these last few years", but you stick the knife into RR if you have to...................
@@artrandy I don't need telling about the cutting edge hehehe I live on it in the tech world. The bleeding edge is called that for a reason blood sweat and more blood.
During a time when both AUS and NZ had closed borders due to covid. Probably mostly a cargo flight with maybe 1 or 2 passengers who were going into 2 week quarantine in NZ.
This was during the pandemic border closures. It was a cargo flight and the pax were positioning crew. The flight probably went NZ-AUS with passengers, hence with cabin crew. The flight back was freight only due to border restrictions for travellers, so the cabin crew positioned home on the same plane. The 4 digit flight number beginning with 1 = freight only. NZ6xxx would be a positioning or charter flight I.e. non-scheduled. ANZ’s jet scheduled passenger services usually have 1-3 digit flight numbers.
Another 787 NightMare Liner declares an emergency. Maybe the airlines who foolishly purchased these flying junkyards will one day wake up and smell the coffee.
Persons on board is standard ICAO phraseology - it means "number of people AND crew" There's no BS confusion about "human remains" etc "souls' is just archaic phraseology the US won't let go of because of their judeo-christian roots.
Because New Zealand's borders were closed except to essential travel and citizens, and getting a spot in managed isolation at the time was almost impossible.
Specifically Auckland was in a partial lockdown at the time too, meaning most businesses weren’t operating and entering and leaving the region wasn’t possible without a permit.
I don’t know that it makes a lot of difference on a turbofan which isn’t blowing the wing. Maybe a bit of adverse yaw but a big old rudder with plenty of airspeed margin and the dead donk is still idling.
Co pilots in Air NZ need elocution lessons. Doubt if the controller ever heard the flight # 1104 after the Air NZ prefix...other ATC clips featuring Air NZ reflect the same inability to communicate clearly . Thankfully during the brief moments the PIC was on the radio, we know someone could enunciate more than Churrrr
I agree some times. I listen to a fair amount of ATC or have done and although I can pick up a New Zealand accent it it often hard to hear. Spoken quietly and quite slow in presentation, especially when into busy traffic areas like KLAX. My friend flew for EK as 777 Captain and I would listen out for him but he was incredibly quiet compared to others. Maybe its just a Kiwi thing.
The accent is only difficult to understand if you are not used to hearing it. I often find US based ATC's difficult to understand, mainly because it is not something I hear on a regular basis.
@@Agnemons I’ve found Americans find foreign accents difficult to understand in general, which I guess makes sense given how often isolated the country can be, given most people never have the need to even communicate with people overseas due to the degree of self reliance there (Also yes I know that’s not what you were saying, but this is just an observation I’ve made, the same can be made for a lot of western nations, but most others have a larger degree of internationalism so it doesn’t apply as much).
Not with a jet, just trim it out with rudder and fly. Dead engine/dead foot is with prop, on the jet there's no P-factor or prop-wash over the wing to create asymmetric lift issues.
It’s not a general aviation light twin which barely has enough power with 2 turning. 80,000lbs of thrust from just 1 engine is enough to fly without those light twin considerations.
That tower controller has a wonderful tone in her voice. What a way to arrive! 😀😀
Enunciation... it is not as common as it once was.
Agreed! Control tower at the end was great!!
1104 cleared to land ... Chur bro! 😁
STRAYA CAN'T!!!
Wow, a 787 with 11 PoB. Covid anyone?
Nice compass in the upper right corner!
Eight souls on board; was this a re-po flight?
POB and not asked for fuel.
Welcome to Australia :-)
Well they just departed so basically full
They advised normal approach and landing with no fire service required, fuel figure not needed.
Also, NZ is only a 3.5hr flight. So that much fuel in a 787 is pretty much empty
@@TamiyaPhilippW they’re flying to NZ from Sydney, so basically empty.
Wow so cute that tower!
Remember, Rolls Royce was the one that said that engine issues have been fixed. Those were RR's words, not Boeing's words
Air NZ said on inspection, the airline’s engineering team confirmed it was not an engine overheat, rather a minor issue with an ancillary system pipe fitted to the engine.
It doesn't take long for the anti RR brigade to break cover with an inference of fault. How dare foreigners supply engines for an American aircraft. Well, if Boeing doesn't get its act together this year, its going to be foreign aircraft as well, because there will be little alternative........
Also worth pointout out that why the engines may we be fixed, they ain't all in service yet, RR last report was 85% of the fleet had been re-engined. But yeah not a good look for RR these last few years
@@AnIdiotAboard_
Cutting edge technology often throws up problems that need sorting. The Merlin had inumerable problems in development and after. Its how you deal with those problems that either maintains a good company reputation or not. Rolls Royce was totally honest about the problem with the Trent 1000.
The first commercial jet airline in history, the De Havilland Comet, was truly cutting edge. Nobody knew about metal fatigue, and the loss of aircraft destroyed a great company that had built the Mosquito during WW2.
That information was shared with Boeing, which made the 707 the successful aircraft it was. Two 737 Max's go down, and is subsequently grounded, despite the fact that its just an upgraded 737, itself a development of the 707, (ie seventy year old tech) and Boeing lied about its software problems, falsely blaming pilot error, and if it had been believed, there could have been more losses. But you know all this.
So there are two ways to deal with technical problems that develop with civil aircraft. The first, to be honest about it, like RR, the second is to deny all responsibility, like Boeing. Despite that, I think Boeing is a great company that will get over its problems, and I wish them well.
"Not a good look for" Boeing "these last few years", but you stick the knife into RR if you have to...................
@@artrandy I don't need telling about the cutting edge hehehe I live on it in the tech world. The bleeding edge is called that for a reason blood sweat and more blood.
Thanks very interesting 👏
Why so few POB?
I think it's a repo flight .. crew only
Maybe because they use something smaller traditionally
Covid. NZ Govt shut everyone out, even though rest of the world had got organised moved on for Omni.
They typically carry flocks of sheep in the cabin. Very bad for business.
CARGO flight
Man, that pilot sounds hypoxic or something. he's just barely speaking into his mic.
The Aussie controllers are un-flappable.
POB?
We have 7
Correction, we have about 11
(I have so many questions) LOL
Captain: correction, we have 11 after accounting for 4 that scared the crap outta their pants in the toilets.
Probably read the passenger count but didn't include crew first time round. Its not the first time that has happened, won't be the last.
During a time when both AUS and NZ had closed borders due to covid. Probably mostly a cargo flight with maybe 1 or 2 passengers who were going into 2 week quarantine in NZ.
Love this,
This happened a while ago
21st December 2021...
Its in the video.
Wrong, this was a live broadcast.
Your wrong is wrong. It was a live broadcast, from Dec 21, 2021…
What is POB? Passengers on board?
I believe so. So 11 passengers on board a 787 dreamliner to New Zealand.. Air Zealand be bleeding money from so little passengers.
This was during the pandemic border closures. It was a cargo flight and the pax were positioning crew. The flight probably went NZ-AUS with passengers, hence with cabin crew. The flight back was freight only due to border restrictions for travellers, so the cabin crew positioned home on the same plane. The 4 digit flight number beginning with 1 = freight only. NZ6xxx would be a positioning or charter flight I.e. non-scheduled. ANZ’s jet scheduled passenger services usually have 1-3 digit flight numbers.
It is Persons on board.
@@ganntradingsystemstimecycl2783 Were they dwarves ?
Another 787 NightMare Liner declares an emergency. Maybe the airlines who foolishly purchased these flying junkyards will one day wake up and smell the coffee.
POB instead of souls. That keeps the pilots from having to ask the FA's if the comfort animals are dogs or some other weird soulless creature.
I'll tell you straight up. ATC in the US still uses souls on board out of habit. We just can't help it
Souls on board was first used to differentiate between living people and any human remains that might be carried.
@@WarHawkAU24 They should still use souls on board
@@joyceadair3003 i don't disagree at all
Persons on board is standard ICAO phraseology - it means "number of people AND crew" There's no BS confusion about "human remains" etc "souls' is just archaic phraseology the US won't let go of because of their judeo-christian roots.
About 11POB...
10.5? 11.5?
Don't think he said About.
Two men were pregnant. Causes confusion.
Why only 11 POB??
Because New Zealand's borders were closed except to essential travel and citizens, and getting a spot in managed isolation at the time was almost impossible.
Specifically Auckland was in a partial lockdown at the time too, meaning most businesses weren’t operating and entering and leaving the region wasn’t possible without a permit.
👍✈✈👍
11 POB? Why no passengers?
New Zealand’s borders were closed at the time due to Covid-19
@@biponacci Ahhh. Thank you.
Why would a pilot accept turns into the useless engine? Does that only apply for shut off engines?
I don’t know that it makes a lot of difference on a turbofan which isn’t blowing the wing. Maybe a bit of adverse yaw but a big old rudder with plenty of airspeed margin and the dead donk is still idling.
Not a thing in jets
Also not shutdown, it was at idle power and avail.
You can fly a heading change turn, you wouldn't fly a tighter turn at low altitude
that is the correct engine to turn towards as the starboard engine is supplying all the power. You dont want to turn towards the good engine.
The left engine overheated coz can't take the fact that the pax load so light.
Cargo flight
Bruh I flew on an air NZ 787 9 Dreamliner three times this year I didn't know they had problems
All aircraft models experience the occasional problem. In this case the plane was in no danger whatsoever, and the turn back was precautionary..
Co pilots in Air NZ need elocution lessons. Doubt if the controller ever heard the flight # 1104 after the Air NZ prefix...other ATC clips featuring Air NZ reflect the same inability to communicate clearly . Thankfully during the brief moments the PIC was on the radio, we know someone could enunciate more than Churrrr
I agree some times. I listen to a fair amount of ATC or have done and although I can pick up a New Zealand accent it it often hard to hear. Spoken quietly and quite slow in presentation, especially when into busy traffic areas like KLAX. My friend flew for EK as 777 Captain and I would listen out for him but he was incredibly quiet compared to others. Maybe its just a Kiwi thing.
The accent is only difficult to understand if you are not used to hearing it. I often find US based ATC's difficult to understand, mainly because it is not something I hear on a regular basis.
@@Agnemons I’ve found Americans find foreign accents difficult to understand in general, which I guess makes sense given how often isolated the country can be, given most people never have the need to even communicate with people overseas due to the degree of self reliance there (Also yes I know that’s not what you were saying, but this is just an observation I’ve made, the same can be made for a lot of western nations, but most others have a larger degree of internationalism so it doesn’t apply as much).
This is not the same audio that the radios in the tower would have heard. These videos are not official recordings, and capture quality is poor.
The tower recording was much more clear than the aircraft, not sure why that wasn't obvious to you?
A lot of overheating lately
Global warming
@@gavinsingh4450 😂
Australia's hot as all balls
Its the vaccines
must've been a hot day😂
Air NZ, the company that lowers it's prices to collapse other domestic airlines then raises them again when there's no competition.
Fly safe buy Airbus...
Oh yeah, they never crash into the ocean.
Oh yeah, Airbus don’t use Rolls-Royce Engine
* RAISE THE DEAD. That’s what I was taught in ground school. Therefore, right turns only in this situation. Any feedback gents???
Not with a jet, just trim it out with rudder and fly.
Dead engine/dead foot is with prop, on the jet there's no P-factor or prop-wash over the wing to create asymmetric lift issues.
It’s not a general aviation light twin which barely has enough power with 2 turning. 80,000lbs of thrust from just 1 engine is enough to fly without those light twin considerations.
The sound on this is crap
Wanna provide a better version for us?
But it doesn’t smell bad like yours.
@@RLTtizME SSSSSMMMMMDDDD
@@jacobrider2143 SSSSMMMMDDDDD
mans has never heard radio comms in his life