I Have Serious Concerns About Dawntrail's Story...
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- Опубликовано: 7 авг 2024
- ffxiv's new dawntrail expansion might end up being a kind of disappointing expac for a lot of reasons. it has to follow in endwalker's footsteps and i'm not too happy with the decisions they've made so far regarding the story. obviously it'll still be fun to play and yes i AM going to play it, but i do need to be a little critical about the story and the direction they chose to go in.
if you disagree, that's okay! this is all just my opinion on what i think is going to happen and i'm probably wrong anyway.
and it's all going to be debunked in like 2 days anyway so... whatever.
0:00 - Intro
1:49 - the scions gotta go
3:43 - endwalker was SUPPOSED to be the end
5:42 - character bloat
7:43 - scion civil war!!! whoa!!!
9:07 - the stakes have never been......... lower?
10:40 - leave the ascians alone already!!!!
12:26 - villains and bad guys
13:08 - THEORY BREAK
15:33 - no more references i can't take it anymore
i'm iska, and i'm an independent vtuber! i don't stream yet but maybe i will one day. for now i just make videos on things i like. i drew and rigged my own model and i edit everything myself too, so please be nice.
despite this video i like final fantasy 14 for personal computer thanks bye
sorry for any audio issues! kind of had to rush this one out for obvious reasons. 
Игры
This video is aging rather well.
When the prophet ended up being a vtuber
I feared it would be a 30 hour beast tribe quest. Turns out that it is exactly that. 😂
Just got past the train repair part, and wow, this is the best way to describe how I've felt so far with the story. Gonna be using this line. 😂
When all you have is a hammer and all...
Wrong. It's a 30 hour "Allied Society" quest. 🤣
I think we should have a Garlamald restoration before going on vacation
Agreed.
saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame
The Garleans totally should have to labour and pay off reparations for all the damage they caused before being allowed to have their own state again, which should be set further north in a ceruleum poor region, to prevent them from starting their magitech empire yet again. Instead of us feeding them, I t hink it should have been more that they are taken prisoner and we see them being conscribed as workers for Doman and Ala Mhigan restauration.
Hello from future, the writer really went ahead and did everything you told them not to do. 🙃
:(
but... most of the scions were much more in the background this expansion, it's very much the start of a new arc that relies little on previous stories, there were no characters from old expacs showing up to cause character bloat, the "civil war" did in fact turn out to be much more of a friendly competition without the scions working against each other. AND we didn't get any Ascian shenanigans
it seems to me like most of the concerns brought up in this video were avoided pretty well?
@@cyberjunk8914 it is a little unfortunate that even though we had the scions there and they *did* technically take more of a back seat...we really didn't get a whole lot of time to bond with other characters in a meaningful way, mostly because anytime we'd talk to anyone else, Wuk Lamat would push her way into the conversation and wonder why the focus wasn't on her for the last 2 minutes.
Theory: This VTuber secretly works at Square Enix and this was her trying to warn us about Dawntrail's MSQ.
Oh wow. Some of your predictions were spookily accurate.
For better or for worse… 😬
After playing through the story, I desperately wish there was more Scions in there.
Come on now, there were some Scion looking people in that story. They seemed to really look like them anyway, until they talked anyway.
Good video. I agree with most of your points ...... except for the references section. I actually think the way they reference old games is actually ingenious because they either make the references tie into the ff14 universe or they give a good reason why the original universe is present in the ff14 universe.
I didnt really play ff4 either but i thought the golbez arc was pretty cool because it essentially was an excuse to explore more of the 13th's present and past. It wasnt really about the ff4 reference so much as it was about seeing the interactions between the shards.
thank you!
yeah, i find that i do actually really like the references when they can tie it in! i enjoyed the ruby weapon series questline and what they did with that, and i do agree completely that we definitely needed to go to the 13th to tie up a lot of loose ends.
i think that the golbez arc from around 6.4-5 ended up being really cool, but i think they really missed with the fiends and the build up to it, so i spent most of endwalker really checked out of the patch cycles since it just felt like they were throwing references at me.
they CAN definitely do references well, but the times they've done it a little hamfisted makes me wary haha
This is my stance as well. All very agreeable points considering I went into this video thinking I would disagree with everything since im riding the DT hype train (since it'll be my first expansion I go into as its released).
As someone who has played ff4, when I was told Endwalker's post was a love letter to it, it actually encouraged and motivated me to keep playing. Not to say the original plot didnt do the job, but it was a huge factor in my personal enjoyment of the game. After Endwalker was finally completed, post-ew was like my "reward" for getting as far as I did.
The references definitely cater to my generation of nostalgia, cus boy howdy do I love pointing at things and going "OMG I REMEMBER THIS!" ahah, i can't beat those allegations, but I can also see how/why it wouldn't be someone elses cup of tea.
haha thanks for giving it a shot!
yeah, i can agree with that. i'm also very susceptible to being excited by seeing things i remember! but in cases where i don't really know what they're referencing it just kind of feels like everyone is laughing, but i'm not in on the joke.
I really hope we can go to Corvos or Meracydia with G'raha, I feel like either one could be pretty interesting for his character? Estinien in Meracydia could also be neat i think
I'm biased though because G'raha is my favorite character ::')
The Endless was a subject that could have filled a whole expansion. It got surface level examination and was tossed to the side. They laugh, play, fall in love, produce culture and are capable of interacting with the outside world. For all intents and purpose they were alive, but the story treats them like they weren't. It encouraged us to commit (deleting a group of people) because their existence was inconvenient. Rather than finding an alternate solution to the real issue, that was their need to kill people to survive. If their issue was they didn't have access to tacos, there would be no moral issue to letting them continue until the heat death of the universe. I guess we don't need to try because they aren't real... Much easier to just turn them off forever...
I understand your feelings however. For The Endless specifically, I felt that that was kind of the point. The point is to accept the inevitability of death, and that nothing lasts forever. To go against nature like that comes at a great cost. There shouldn't be a solution to their problem. Their entire society is built around a denial of death. Of course the solution isn't going to be "look, a sustainable way to deny death forever!!" It shouldn't be that way. You're supposed to mourn them, as you mourn people. You're meant to go into denial, bargain, hope for another way, a way to keep them around. But the reality is that.. you can't. And that you shouldn't cling to the dead in such ways. It's a very common theme in literature. Sometimes... there just isn't a solution.
@@SamF1013 When is the time to die? This very much sounds like the tar pit. In the show "Dinosaurs" they had a tradition of throwing their elderly into tar pits because they had become a burden. But civilization had advanced enough that they were able to continue to sustain them and they stopped the tradition.
I very much do not accept that a life has to end. Or that new life is more valuable than old life.
@@koatam It's great to struggle with the concept of mortality. Many people do. You're ironically exemplifying the point of that chapter of the story. But death comes nonetheless.
"The cloud-capped towers, the gorgeous palaces, the solemn temples. The great globe itself. Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve. And, like this insubstantial pageant faded. Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff as dreams are made on, and our little lives are rounded with a sleep." - Shakespeare, The Tempest (rough quote)
The concept of The Endless is simply another tale in an anthology of stories encapsulating the concept of grief. Denial, Bargaining, Anger, Depression, Acceptance. The dead are gone, you cannot hold onto them forever. Even the memories will not last forever. Everyone. The most infamous people, buildings that are said to be eternal. Everything and everyone eventually fades into stardust.
@@SamF1013 My disagreement with mortality is kind of beside the point. If I agreed that life should have an end, it's still wrong to have ended The Endless because they were still alive. The "right" thing to have done is to stop Sphene from gathering souls and let the system decay. Without the input of fresh souls they would have "died naturally."
From what I hear, the second half of the main scenario is just ripped straight from FF9, so if you aren't a fan of references, brace yourself.
Also, I hear, this is not the same writers from the more successful expansions, so it's entirely possible that this is the far less talented team.
Superficially ripped. Apart from the fusion and soul stuff it has very little to do with FF9 other than some visual cues.
This aged like fine wine
I watched this last week and now just finished the story...... I really wish you didn't have psychic powers
haha im sorry
I had low expectations but holy shit.
Yawntrail more like.
dawntrails story sucks ass, it's not even funny, this was supposed to be the start of a new era of expansions and it's super fucking cringe and miserable ...
The MSQ pace is so slow atm imo and very underwhelming. Just my personal opinion though.
How is the story? I'm playing currently level 97 but honestly i've skipped almost al of the story from th new xpac lmao
you can watch my follow up to this video to find out lol
since the announcement of dawntrail i had one big question in my head: will they address the final days? i mean: WE know what happened, but on a totally new continent, where it was not explained, what happened? and it was the end of the world! right? right? RIGHT?? burning skies, monsters and all? the whole world was affected, right? right? ...? so in the new world, no one was affected by the last days? so it was only the end of half the world? a third? for me, its a very lazy connection between the addons and it takes away from endwalker. the end of the world was never the end of the world, if other continents never heard about it, and so the end of the world was never a big thing.
I was thinking the same thing…
I was wondering about that too and thought they might bring it up but nope.
I liked Hoary Boulder and the B team!
Thank you for having hot takes! It's refreshing to escape the opinion echo chamber and hear some real worries from a dedicated FFXIV fan. Even if I have some disagreements, I do share some of the same worries you bring up. Picking out parts from your video that I agree with and others that I don't helps me sort out how I feel myself. Liked and subscribed!
Like you, I did notice that the stakes of Endwalker could not have been higher, with the fate of the universe at stake. However, I don't think this means that the story going forward will be boring. Even just low stakes dramas like trying to protect a dear friend, stop a hateable villain, or compete with an aggravating rival can be very entertaining if you ask me. It's all about the quality of the writing. I wonder what we'll get!
that's a good point! the stakes don't need to be universe-ending to feel impactful, and i'm personally hoping for another villain to be invested in. we'll see!
thank you for your response, i really appreciate hearing that!!
Swaping Krile with Wuk Lamat as the focal point and adjusting the pacing could have had the same rough story with a different focus and had it be 100x better.
The twins and Estinien made sense, every other Scion there was too much extra.
I'd trade the twins with Uriange and Thancred. The Twins didn't feel like they really had anything to do while they were with us. At the very least the dads made for a great mentor for Koana.
The Twins need to be put on the bench more than the other scions in my opinion.
Could not agree more on the points about the Scions. We desperately need a fresh Group, and I cannot imagine they're just not doing it because it would gimp the Trust System for a while
Krile has yet to have any 'arc' as you described. She's been the most boring Scion since the useless leader from ARR. She deserves her time in the spotlight. But honestly, I really could do without the twins.
i agree, i think out of all the scions krile is probably the one that deserves to come with us the most because she could definitely use some development.
Yay!!! Another video. At least it’s not a 5 month pause again! Keep going, you’ll do great!
haha thanks for your support!! i'll keep doing my best 💪
It couldn't have turnt out any worse. It's made me want to turn from a story-exclusive enjoyer into a story skipping raider out of necessity of getting my money's worth from this expansion. We're kind of masquerading with corpses of 'complete' characters, with somehow less interesting husks of new characters. Wuk Lamat is purely poorly written - I actually feel like she was scarcely written at all. Man. It sucks. Bad. I am omitting my gripes with CBU3s apparent inability to innovate their MSQ gameplay because that would be a russian novel. In summary though: after heavily abridging ARR, they somehow failed to see why they were seen as unideal, and stuck with the same formula for a dubbed 'new chapter, a beginning to a 10 year plan'.
turnt?
This aged like wine... It's terrifying how much of what you predicted actually came true.
haha it’s a curse!!
I am glad to see someone else shares a lot of my worries for Dawntrail. All I do is hope that it is building to something good and not just an xpac to be.. there
they usually manage to pull out something surprising, so... here's hoping!!
If will lost someone in Endwalker, who would be the most impactful? I say one of the twins of would hurt the most.
hmm that's a hard one!! i think losing one of the twins would be too brutal haha. honestly maybe urianger, especially after the whole arc with him on the moon.
I could see Urianger bite the bullet for some self sacrifice
ONE of the twins dying would be insane... idk how they could do that but it'd be crazy
I'm seeing this video 11 days after it's posting and as someone else in the comments said, it aged well. Natsuko Ishikawa did not write the scenario for Dawntrail as I understand it so that is most likely to blame for what we've been given. There are some new plot points that have merit and hold my interest, but over half of the msq was hard to sit through. I hope that Yoshi P is seeing/hearing the feedback it's getting and responds accordingly.
Honestly, I do share many of these opinions. Still hyped, but yeah, I think if not now, in the coming expansions they are probably going to have address this stuff.
i'm actually pretty hyped too haha, but yeah it does feel like it's just going to get worse if they keep avoiding it.
I actually wouldn't mind the scions getting pulled from msq moving forward and introducing an entire new cast. I'd rather see them be part of things like trials or alliance/normal raid stories. I can't believe how well you nailed it though, literal prophetic predictitions.
haha yeah unfortunately i was pretty spot on...
a friend of mine suggested using the scions for the role quests, and i think that'd be a fun place to put them!
I regret getting Dawntrail.
Totally agree with everything you said! I'm hoping they leave the scions behind shortly after we get to Tural
Also the Gaius side story in Shadowbringers is my favorite quest series ever!
thanks! good taste!!!
I like your opinions Vtuber lady
i hope Dawntrail is better than what we expect it to be
also ZENOS SUPPORTERS RISE UP!!
yeah!!! me too, hopefully we'll be pleasantly surprised!
Got a huge gripe with the "these are out main characters, we can't kill them off".
Also, why even care about the story having high stakes if it those stakes would never be reached.
Which is probably the real sore point for me, the good guys never really lose in the end. It's lame as hell.
This is where some main character deaths would do the story well imo.
same!! every time they get put in a situation where they MIGHT die it makes it feel cheap because you just know they're going to be fine afterwards.
I disagree. Stories that just pointlessly kill off their characters is actually pretty cringe. Like it's trying to be a rip off of game of thrones or something. Honestly even game of thrones or attack on titan kinda didn't do it properly. The "main cast" is just everyone who made it to the end. They had massive plot armor all along. There never was any stakes just the illusion of it.
I see the scions like the main crew of any TV show or anime. It gives the story an actual narrative device to show character growth in a story where the main lead is mute. Killing them off or retiring them is just a waste.
It's like having a long running TV show and then the og cast just gets replaced. Stargate SG1, Babylon 5, etc... Everytime this happens the show ends up feeling too different and gets canceled.
I mean look at what happened with the villains. Now that emet and zenos are gone what's left? You take lex luthor or the joker and toss em in the garbage. Or even if it's a redeemed one we only redeem them just to toss them in the garbage again. It's like permanently killing off Vegeta in the frieza saga.
Just boggles my mind seeing fans want to kill of characters then complain their fan favorites get killed off. Character deaths are really the most impactful at the end of a story, so they participate in it from start to finish. It's an ongoing mmo so...
Dawntrail is incredibly dry, it's taking so much active effort just to push through this ffxiv filler arc just to unlock the new high end content i continue to play for
You would think FFXIV players would get a clue and stop being dead wrong all the time by calling any msq or patch "filler" I bet so many people thought Ardbert and the warriors of darkness in heavensward was filler never to be important again, only to be slapped in the face with them while crying over Shadowbringers msq, even the void/Zero plot has already become a touching point in the new dlc already proving that there is no filler in FFXIV and everything always comes around
@@ZakharonThat's not what they said at all dude. They voiced discontent with the story and basically said the story was filler for their personal experience since they just want to do high-end content due to how flat the story was to them. Check your rage Mr. "Dead Wrong" and try to approach it again when you realize other people play the game differently than you do or have different takes. At least correctly assess someone's statement before talking down on someone needlessly with your pent up aggro.
@@ZakharonNone of this story felt important, it was filler
"We shall have to Wait and See"
just finished it, my only thought is if i should unsubscribe for a few months
pretty much the entire MSQ felt like something we already did before but worse
wuk lamat is such a lame, one dimensional character for someone who is in the spotlight the entire time
feels like they couldnt find talented writers who are on par with the previous ones
In the intro I thought this was just gonna be a bunch of doomer hot takes, but I at least see your points and wholeheartedly agree with a couple of them.
All told I *am* really exhausted with the doomerism since the lack of content drama during Endwalker and especially with the job design stuff going into Dawntrail, so thank you for not doing that.
All that said, I think Endwalker should've killed at least one Scion off for good. Let the idea of the scions rest already, give them all something else to do, and give us new characters already. I'm fine taking one or two to Tural to join us (The twins makes the most sense). But CS3 doing the whole death fakeouts at the end of EW just shows that they're stuck on these characters and so are we.
haha yeah i'm definitely not a doomer or anything! getting mad about the job design stuff is very silly.
yeah lol i agree, those scenes in endwalker felt really emotional but it kinda lessened it when you're like oh... they're never letting go of these characters, are they?
Using Raubahn's quote about victories rarely being won without sacrifice only to then undo each sacrifice the scions made to bring them all back again was pretty goofy.
I had disliked this before release.
Now after watching your recent one, I like that one and this one and instantly subbed….
I am worried about the future of the game we love…
Ironically enough, I'd have appreciated "Hey! Remember FF9?!" a heck of a lot more than what we got...
I glamoured my main into the lvl 1 catgirl armore and gonna play dt as if im playing arr for the first time.
But yeah the scions as much as i love yshtola feels pointless if we keep going back to them
Lets go for a star ocean!
Save different worlds! New people new lands new
star ocean sounds so fun!! that's what i'm hoping for now! new worlds!!
@virtual_iska imagine with yoshi p doing a moar dragon quest world where we look like a ff14 char in a world that's dragon quest art
Or a metriod world
Or like a ghibli world
One of the world's being earth
Endless choices with the right storytellin
I'm sick of the Scions as well xD
i'm glad someone agrees!!
Your voice helps me relax, it has a nice tune to it! Oh and I know it's kinda late but Solution 9 is a special attack from FF9's main guy Zidane! Dawntrail is heavily homaging FF9
haha, thank you! i've been informed about solution 9 but i don't think it's the worst reference ffxiv has done so i can forgive that one 😅
Well you were right!
I disagree with most all these points but still watched all the way through. NUMBERED LIST TIME!
1. I think the scions main problem is that they need breathing room to develop instead of just reacting to strife/conflict.
2. Having existing buddys actually makes the players more invested, rather than feeling isolated with only new characters who need time to warm up to ya. I'm personally tired of brooding npcs who take a long time to be likeable rather than just having a group of friends.
3. Character bloat hasn't stopped people from liking other characters. Feels like a very weak point when each expansion we have the scions but also other npcs who stick around for an expansion or two. I remember a jp 2019 popularity poll where the top characters are all dead ones.
4. Scion civil war, feels weak, I agree. Going to be hard to sell this one, but there's a chance they can pull it off.
5. I don't think there needs to be a universe ending plot, but the stakes have to be high. Start with making you invested in a new place, learning to love it and then threaten it. I think they're going to pour more in than usual to make you love this new world. In that case you need to start slow.
6. I honestly think we're done with Ascians. This is a good point but not likely to come up.
7. Honestly all the supposedly villains here seem really weak and this girl doesn't fit the bill for what will be a villain for this expansion. Please introduce someone not in the patch notes to fill this role SquareEnix.
8. Nothing wrong with the shard theory, I don't think that's going to be the case though. It's more likely to be the hidden top of the map had some reactivated allagan civilization or underground bunker civilization or something. I think that's more likely here.
9. References are the lifesblood of ff14, my hopes is that we get more references, not less. This is one of the big hopping on points for most people and probably the most unpopular point to go against it.
Thanks for the vid and hopefully your concerns are addressed when the expansion drops. Only one way to know for sure, see ya in Dawntrail!
very thoughtful response, thank you! see you in dawntrail, i hope you have fun!!
Now that I think about it... outside of moral issues of killing denizens of shards... With final days over there's no reason for someone not to continue the work of ascians and unite the shards with the source again.
At least to my understanding Venat shattered the source cause it was too dense in eather for it's denizens to use dynamis which turned out to be required to defeat the endsinger (LB is us using dynamis and tank LB3 is required for that fight [or at least was] even on normal)
Who's the clown now buddy?
i share a bunch of your concerns but the reality is i have doubted this team time and time again when it comes to the story and it has yet to disappoint, so im finally at the point where i can give them the benefit of the doubt
uh oh, don't jinx it!
I'm sort of the opposite and am so tired of the grand/massive scale of things and how great you are because you're the chosen one, and etc. I'm almost a little bummed out by the solution nine stuff because it's obvious something grander that an adventure story is going to happen. Whatever we'll find out tomorrow. Hope everyone has fun either way.
valid! i'm pretty tired of the grand/massive scale stuff too, but i like the visual distinction of solution nine so that wins out.
we'll see! i think it'll be fun to play at least, even if it isn't too memorable as an expansion story.
keep spitting facts. I was very pleased with 6.0 and my disappointment was immeasurable when we found out the scions disbanding was just a prank and we'd be following like 75% the same characters in the postpatch and expansion. There's only so much more you can do with them, they have to go be on their own to give the story breathing room.
thanks! calling the scions disbanding "just a prank" is honestly so funny, that's really what it felt like
its not the referencing the other games is bad its that the execution of it sucks
Thank you! Someone said what I was thinking about Scions since ShB.
Man just get rid of them pls, I beg.
I just dont agree on references.... one of the reasons its bc I love the franchise and FFIX was my childhood FF.
Plus the quests keeps the same boring formula:
Speak with Alphinaud
Speak with Alphinaud
Speak with Alphinaud again
CS CS CS
Pick some grass
Speak with Alphinaud
CS CS CS
Speak with Alphinaud
Defeat a god - end of expac.
Lemme fix it for the current state of things.
Speak with Wuk Lamat
Speak with Wuk Lamat
Speak with Wuk Lamat again
CS Featuring Wuk Lamat
Do arbitrary task that they tasked Wuk Lamat with doing
Speak with Wuk Lamat
CS Featuring Wuk Lamat where Wuk Lamat gets praise for everything you did while not being Wuk Lamat
Speak with Wuk Lamat
Oh hey, Krile's here too
Defeat a - no, wait, you aren't the main character, silly! Go back to your silly adventurin', silly.
I played FF4 TWICE and I still don't remember anything about Golbez 😅 At least his Trial was fun, at least. This EW post-patch chain is such a slog though. Worst time I've had with 14 since ARR.
EW Post patch quests aren't even close to as bad as early dawntrail.. You can skip almost every cutscene in the first two zones after the city and miss nothing.
I have no problem with the WOL being put to the side to help another, but this naw so far seems like a slog compared to all the other past expansions. It’s making me appreciate Stormblood which I initially thought was the worst.
not having a world ending thing gives a chance for the scions just being side character, and giving development to your own story and others. because if it was a big world ender or threat then the scion would have to be there again to save the day again.
true! i guess they deserve a vacation too
At the 98 quests I couldn't stand it anymore and just started skipping everything...and I have never done that since I started playing back in 2.0.
sorry to hear that! :( it made me a little tempted to skip, too
My biggest, most prevalent concern is Wuhu Lmao's behaviour, and characterisation so far. She's showing traits of the Rings of Power Galadriel, unlikeable and grating. Admittedly, we have an entire new storyline for her to develop, but her personality doesn't seem to be anything beyond: "I'm gonna be the next Hokage!"
she does feel very.... shonen lol that's a good way to put it.
Not bad points, but I do disagree with your last section (references). EW patches were handled poorly IMO, and even in context it doesn't add a whole lot to the game. It was underdeveloped and honestly needed a lot more to it. I think they can do it well, even if they do rip certain things straight out. They just need enough for the characters to stand on their own even if they are references.
The two Golbezes (Golbeese?) are effectively two different characters, only sharing some personality traits (and design of course). However, the early/mid patches just sorta waved him and the Archfiends around without giving proper development and introductions (aside from Barbariccia, who I think was the only one who they did "okay" at). It's not that they're references that's at fault, they're undercooked references. They'd still be underwhelming if they were different original characters.
Also how could you disrespect Hoary Boulder like that?
yeah, good point! references CAN be done well, but i agree, i just think the EW patches dropped the ball and made it hard to be invested when they actually got better.
golbeese lmao
rip to a real one
yeah, i completely agree, i think that the EW patches relied on FFIV a little too closely too truly stand on their own, hoping that fans of that game would enjoy the characters purely for the references. I think Zero is the only part of it that really works because she's original, but even her character development was a little underbaked.
In my opinion, a lot of it also comes down to being a patch arc that has much less space to explore than a full expansion, making everything feel even more rushed.
I think extensive callbacks like this can work well in FFXIV when they're more focused on telling an original story with distinct characters and not just namedropping and recreating events from old games for the sake of fanservice.
I think story was fine in terms of starting up a new series, the 1st half of the story was pretty par for the course adventure stuff and wasn't super exciting. 2nd half I think did a very good job on starting to touch on concepts in regards to death and memories and such.
As someone watching this after DT released, you should change your name to Cassandra because you called it.
A horrible expansion story and Wuk drove me crazy
The second half of DT picks up for me. Didn't think I would ugly cry during boring summer vacation but here I am fml.
if that man the monkeyboy from final fantasy 9 shows up in dawntrail i am going to SWAT naoki yoshidas house
it's the start of something new...so it's ARR again. going to be boring until the end of the patch stories i guess
yeah, just kind of the nature of it! i just hope they throw in some interesting new plot hooks.
Mid Lamat.
I enjoyed dawntrail though ro be fair i did skip pretty much every CS since i mostly play for the grinding
I can't see this fu**ing Scions anymore. Holy god remove them from the game I don't want them anymore after 10 years!!!!!!!!
Solution 9 is just an attack for Zidane in FF9. Enjoy the reference inception. Personally I'm kinda hype for dawn trail. We are going to America. Im wondering if we will end up losing the games to thancreds heir, the miqo'te seems more level headed than the girl. I want to see more on solution 9 and the golden city, meet the new ascians, and see what else of emet selchs spoiler speech we get to visit in post-game content.
I mean it's way more hype than whatever wow is trying to come up with. That game has no questions I care to answer anymore. They keep ruining or killing off my fav characters.
I feel like we've been playing two different games lol
midgardsormr is my favorite character!!
@@virtual_iska Well shieeettt
Niceeee! Funny enough I didn't name myself after Midgardsormr from FF14 but after a dragon in my own novel with the same name haha
it's a good name for a dragon!
Why are people saying you hit the nail on the head when basically nothing you mentioned happened in Dawntrail?
I don’t think some of these people have played it yet.
She literally called the antagonists whole goal with solution 9.
genshin impact is a terrible comparison
yeah? how so?
Story was absolutely terrible and the wokeness is becoming to real
Dawntrail is insultingly bad.
as someone who actually cares about the ff games and has played them, the golbez after patch stories mattered way more to me than 6.0 patch questlines. i can understand it being jarring if you just dont play ff games (no mention of the nier/drakengard raid tho) so a lot of the references go over your head, but thats what a theme park mmo does when it has the name of a pre-existing successful franchise. its funny you also mentioned genshin which quite literally does the exact same thing, half of their roster is JUST honkai impact 3rd characters or references or allusions. i think what youre really asking for is for someone else to make game it feels, with 0 history, 0 other games, and 0 references to anything else (good luck). if you dont care about the Final Fantasy franchise, mayhaps dont play the game surrounded by Final Fantasy?? please play a different game if final fantasy in final fantasy bugs you that much
i’m glad this video made you feel so passionately, thank you for watching!
I'll be honest almost ALL of this sounds like a you problem
I completely disagree.
"Dont take this too seriously"
"Just consider me playing devil's advocate here"
Both of these statements make me wonder why anyone would continue watching the video if you're presenting that you don't actually care that much about your opinions.
neither statement imply that i don't care, just that i'm presenting opinions that differ from the norm. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So I think it’s a perfect palate cleanser of EW and sorry… but people need to not keep thinking about EW and comparing DT to it. It’s not supposed to follow EW.
EW was the end of a narrative that went on for 10years. DT is a new story for the next 10 to come.
I'm not comparing it to EW. I'm comparing it to ARR. And ARR wins, no contest.
@@karenpojar2514 difference of opinion. It definitely does not
@@karenpojar2514well that’s what your last reply said before you deleted it
@@Wingedspace22well objectively more people dont agree with you. so it isnt just opinions now is it.
@@kamitorings that’s not true at all. Of course the majority of the people on this video. I’ve seen others that don’t agree with you at all. So saying the “majority” is a gross understatement
lmao all the smooth brains don't understand story so must be bad XD
Completely agree with the scions part, just let our WOL meet new people in an expansion where we can solve problems and not "call urianger" "call alphinaud" and then i think about trust system, who is gonna help u if the scions aren't supposed to be there, trust characters interact with the duty so making them go there doesn t make any sense, that would be a great time to meet new characters to help you, and also golbez, i played ff4 and i was like why is he here in a POST ff14 msq, i wouldn t mind if it was a secondary raid but msq?. Good video and let's see what happens
agreed! they don't seem opposed to adding new characters to the trust system, though. i feel you about golbez too haha it felt like it should have been a side quest.