It sounds like you were about to say government provides lawyers for free if people can't afford it -- #1 they do not provide family law attorneys, only public defenders for criminal charges, #2 they will appoint an attorney if you can't afford, but will often still send you a bill afterward, similar situation to emergency medical care.
@@kentjohnson2243 Destiny might connect the dots given he's been on all these videos where these inane questions have surfaced. I'm just here for the algo.
The irony of a dude who constantly talks about women taking accountability for their actions (and constantly pushes back on their views) malding over the idea that as a show host he is responsible for those he hosts and not speaking out against heinous crap they say is SO on brand for these red pill chodes.
Pearl: Argues all of her points on personal anecdote. **someone else brings up a personal anecdote** Pearl: Well I don't really want to get into your personal story.
I've heard him say he's not a redpill guy. This is part of the problem I guess, these days being at all critical of modern women is basically synonymous with the red pill which is a whole ecosystem of world views
@@off6848 Then he kinda needs to understand that things like these are gonna happen when your popular and all you can really doo is explain yourself and be honest.
@@off6848his short clips literally feeds the redpill online industrial meme machine. I don’t think he gets off if he says he isn’t red pill yet all of his body of work is essential to the existence and maintenance of the online red pill industry. This is like Tim Pool calling himself a centrist, but his values don’t even align close to what is politically acceptable in the center.
@@henrytep8884 Thats because redpill has become so broad. Anything anti-conformist on the issue of men and women is considered redpill now. It used to mean something more specific. Specifically that the ways in which women and men act can be studied the same way animals can be studied and that women are slaves to their subconscious biology in their mating values. I'm pretty sure Brian is a traditionalist conservative meaning that the observations good or bad can be explained by the larger cultural morality and material conditions. Basically he thinks that modern women have a toxic worldview but can change if society permits it
@@stargazerkawaii The way people are made to sit down (red pills on one side and feminist or so the other) is not by coincidence. He as a moderator didn't happen to sit on that side rather than in the middle or so just because. Now he wants to pretend he has nothing to do, must think people are fools
He is the host. It's not his role to have an opinion but to allow others to present their own attributing anything to him makes no sense. Especially when he was focused on things aside from the debate half the time.
@@stargazerkawaii you actually can. Only brain dead people assume a person's beliefs based on what others have said. A moderator typically doesn't engage like that. He's kind of a hybrid host/moderator. He shouldn't have to push back on literally every point others make. Especially when he had destiny there to give adequate pushback. Really disappointing to see destiny doing that dumb leftist shit where you accuse someone of believing something that they never said.
That's what he's trying to do , doofus. Why tf do you think he came on the show. He literally said he knows how people are taking it. His point is that it shouldn't be that way but he does accept that it is so.
5:28 - I actually fact checked this study and it was from 2002 which is like... before internet pr0n even existed so it's irrelevant. The technology is so different these days and the data was probably taken from the year 2000 or earlier which was a time when it took like 3 hours to download a single image file. It's like how all the red pillers love to use the OKCupid study that's like 14 years old and came out before dating apps existed. They never add the nuance of that study which is that women will message the guys they perceive as below average anyway. Which kills their point of men not getting attention. And then I heard Jordan Peterson quote the OkCupid study! By the way the study DOES NOT tell you how many participants there were so we don't even know if it's enough people to describe the behaviors of hundreds of millions of people. Seriously people's ability to appropriately use/quote statistics is depressing.
51:05 Brian has said MULTIPLE times on his podcast that women initiate divorce disproportionately & disadvantage men financially afterwards. So idk why he’s acting now like it’s preposterous for someone to assume these views don’t reflect his own
Not just that but it says something about his ability to judge character. If he can join people in hosting many podcasts but doesn’t know that they can’t agree with him on something like that then his ability to pick his friends/business partners is atrocious. That probably also bleeds into his world views as well.
@@MawcDrums even if the modern iteration which is going away from its original goal is fading away the red pill wont die because the probp3ms it addressed hasnt gone away
Nah. I think this is good for the redpill. A lot of people currently in the redpill space are grifting and or aren’t entirely right in the head. This will hopefully change the redpill community for the better.
Their go-to defense is that everything was edited or out of context. They can’t specify what actually changed, they just insist that it’s edited or out of context. But sorry, too many of us saw the whole thing and they’re absolute trash.
@@uhhhfrick9767 The full clip looks worse than Melina’s edit and either way it didn’t even come close to misrepresenting them at all so if it was edited to be shorter it’s completely inconsequential. They try to act like it was edited to change what they said and it wasn’t. To be fair.
@@uhhhfrick9767 they said cheating is worse than physical abuse for the kids in a marriage. They said so many wild things in the full clip. It is so cucked that they won’t just own what they said.
Brian is the luckiest host of all time. Has no idea how to run a show but got big because he can slice and dice clips to make his podcast seem interesting. Half the time he isn’t even in his chair
And he is a TRASH debater. Frustrating to watch. Can only regurgitate repetitive remedial talking points, without the deep understanding to adjust on the fly.
To be fair they were not defending abuse. None of them would say “beat your wives!” as promotion. They were taking an extreme position in their defense of marriage by not holding abusive men to account for being degenerate human beings. A far cry from promoting it. Although you always did have brain dead takes.
I've honestly never thought I'd see a single internet "celebrity" do so much to change the landscape of the entire red-pill scene in such a good and productive way. He's pivotal.
Poor Destiny is so sick of it, every redpill podcast is exactly the same, you could replay an old episode of F&F and cal it new you wouldn’t know the difference.
15:00 --- The woman goes to the church to complain that her husband is beating her. - The church talks to the husband to ASK WHY he's beating his wife. The husband denies it, or says that the devil tempted him or some shit. -The Husband comes back home, beats the wife so hard that she'll never speak about this never again or just kills her. That's how these situations play out.
@@curtishancock432 They would like to need to detain the husband first, because no one who is beating his wife for any reason really is going to change with one conversation especially if the party he's having the convo with doesn't have any immediate power over him. What happens is that victims gets punished for speaking up.
Brian - "I don't attribute fault necessarily to the man or the woman. What I do know is that women overwhelmingly initiate divorce. Who's at fault? I can't say. " Destiny - "Well what would be the point of bringing up that women initiate divorce if you're not placing blame on them?" Destiny is a MASTER debater. He doesn't allow ANY bs to pass him by. Bravo 👏🏿
Or maybe he just had a wrong opinion, bozo? Ever think of that? Why tf is everything disingenuous with you goofy ass folk? Sometimes people are just genuinely wrong. Btw did you even watch her video?
It’s interesting that the question was IF someone IS in an abusive situation and they can’t respond to that. All they’ve done is question the hypothetical situation where a woman is abused.
Yeah their entire disagreement should have been over what constitutes abuse. A perfectly reasonable response would be “yes if you are legitimately being abused you should divorce but people are too quick to classify domestic squabbles as abuse”. Then again the _endure_ guy believes you shouldn’t divorce even in legitimate abuse so who am I kidding
This kinda thing is like when people point out that a comparison (analogy/metaphor/whatev) isn't 100% identical between the things being compared. It's like these people never passed the fifth grade.
No the problem is, that they tried to take a rare situation compared to numbers of where it doesnt happen, to make a point on relationships in total. And in no scientific studies would that be ok to make any kind of assumptions based on it. When you listen to guys like Destiny, it sounds like all women are abused by men.
@@RolaiEckolo lol it kills me when i’m like “if you had to either __ or __, which would you prefer?” and i get an answer like “neither” or “that would never happen.” 💀
@@Chrischi_Z_GermanGUI Do you believe that domestic abuse/violence is rare? Isn't it the case that like 1/3rd of woman have gone through domestic abuse at some point in their life? How far removed are you from what happens on this planet? You're simply overexaggerating their claims in order to dismiss them due to absurdity, in the ways that they explain it isn't at all the case that I've EVER interpreted it as them saying "All women are abused by men". That thought has never glanced my mind, nor is it ever insinuated by what I've heard any person ever say...
"I agreed with everything everyone on my side was saying up until when what they said effected me personally, and I don't understand why everyone is upset"
Pearl uses the fact that she's exposed to SO MANY men on these podcasts/shows as her understanding (having not ever been in a serious relationship) and that the podcast conversation experience gives her the credibility to assert her position, but she's also has a LOT of women on her shows stating their side and she just moves on/flippantly acknowledges it and counters it with a boiler-plate mansplainy/pick-me talking point.
@@sunnyta1990 She does this for clout and money. Wait till she hits 30 she will sing a different song and tell everyone she was brainwashed by the redpill. Redpill is dying so we might see that soon.
They are sick in the head or severely ignorant. They think it's better to grow up seeing the woman you love most in the world as a child getting treated like a dog or servant rather than growing up with divorced parents? They have no idea how much that experience warps your perception of the world.
@@curtishancock432divorce is far better for children than watching their mother being abused. When a child is subjected to that it’s also abusive for the child. Many times a man who would hit his woman would also beat the child.
@@curtishancock432 And he still is. Both him and his ex are crazy celebrities off their rocker and doing incredibly unhealthy, toxic, and abusive things in relationships. And emotional abuse is also incredibly damaging to children. People who end up in abusive relationships often do so because they never had a healthy one modeled for them.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 I'm with you when it comes to the general emotional abuse stuff, but you seriously haven't a single clue regarding the Johnny Depp situation. If you care about misinformation and not harming individuals, you should probably stop talking about, untill you're better informed.
@@rohanjarande The person you're replying to didn't even say any details about the Heard-Depp thing, what are you saying they "haven't a single clue" based on? Heard is clearly an abusice crazy bitch and she was the one making allegations, but I think it's pretty fucking clear their relationship was mutually abusive. Even the jurors thought so, for fucks sake.
@@rohanjarandehe case didn't prove depps innocence vs ALL ABUSE , it was specifically the black eye and lies she said to the tabloid, Depp DID ABUSE heard but not one sidedly/ unjustified
If you went back to that moment in the podcast and asked Brian what his thoughts were, he would absolutely align with his boys. He's only backtracking now because he's getting cooked by his own fans AND Destiny came off best in the podcast
Not all of his boys agreed with this take. People are just assuming the christian guy literally said if someone is getting abused you should leave them and even said he disagrees with the other guy.
@@cngotham4111 Because he did push back in any way to the person sitting next to him that said if you are getting beaten in a relationship you need to endure. If the guy next to him said "I actually think abortions at 9 months are totally reasonable I get the feeling he might have had something to say"
@@chethanx666 The fact that he didn't say anything to push back against or in any way separate his opinion from a dude saying "ENDURE! ENDURE! When asked specifically about a woman being abused by her husband". When he specifically jumped in to speak on other topics and made his opinion clear.
It's always insane to me the amount of bullets these types of people have to bite to be consistent on their view. Maybe Mel misspoke a little bit, but the fact that she got them to say "Cheating worse than abuse" was incredible to me.
That's the only thing g that matters 😂😉 everything else is bullshit no matter what they say. They couldn't answer when it came to the woman's physical safety but were quick when it came to her cheating which would hurt men's emotional states 😂
@@lavellelee5734 But women conduct violence on men more. Women initiate 70% of non-mutual and 25% mutual more than men domestic violence. Look it up. Also men and women cheat about the same rate.
In UK law, raising your voice to your spouse is abuse - I know many men being abused on the daily by their missus - But no, physical abuse is far worse than cheating - but cheating and mental abuse combined? Probably worse than physical abuse?
Melina is a strong opinionated person, but her delivery is calm and kind always. I am so confused why these guys think she’s so disrespectful and disruptive
Brian sounds as if he's just now finding out that "guilt by association" is a thing. People will absolutely judge you by the company you keep. Is it right? No. But that's how humans operate. The fact that he's just realizing this tells me that he lives in a comfy little bubble that left him ignorant and inexperienced with no idea how the world works. He's a dumb kid and he carries himself like one. If I had only ever heard him speak without seeing him, I'd have guessed him to be 17 years old. That said, he can't push back on the other guys on his podcast. They're his tribe, and he perceives himself of a lower social rank than them. A lesser male, if you will. If he deviates from the tribal doctrines or contradicts the stronger males, he'll invite their disapproval. Or worse, they'll exile him from the community.
I think both of these statements are the best way to describe Brian in this whole conversation. That said, I do feel for him a bit. He seems like a chill guy that doesn't have any bad intentions. But he's caught up in the red pill stuff even if he may not agree fully with them. And he doesn't know how to not be agreeable towards them without losing that part of his following.
@Chet Hanx I'm not sure that's the same as being with someone on a debate and not pushing back against them for their wild takes. I'm sure that if someone like Aba or Destiny was on a panel and someone from their side said something as wild as a death threat, they would stand against that pretty easily. Similar to how destiny is saying he tried distancing himself from Erin's takes on the patriarchy.
Brian is pretending to be ignorant and pathetic to avoid accountability. The Gameboy abuse line at the end was gold. Brian kept contradicting his stance that he was just ignorant in his complacency lol it was really pathetic sheesh. Destiny called him out at least twice he was enjoying it. Brian is Hella dumb lol.
Aba is so refreshing. It’s sad how rare his perspective seems these days. Maybe it’s just the courage that’s rare. These people are deranged. 😐 It’s wild that there are so many people who are okay with subjecting women to a dangerous crisis just to avoid the inconvenience of divorce.
Man, Brian was trying to alienate himself from the “endure” sht so hard 😂 dude! Your silence is enough for people to come to that conclusion. As a host, you have to keep the same energy for all topics. You let this play out without a “wow” or a facial expression. I know what you’re about. It’s crazy 😂
The Brain dude was trying so hard to convice destiny that he he's just a moderator, and doesn't agree with any of his guests views. In fact he doent even listen when the cameras are rolling. He just checks out. He was having 7 bad head aches that day too. He's doing everything to distance hinself from those comments. Hes scared lol
A woman cheating is worse for the children than it is if the dad is beating the woman? Idk, I'm thinking the kids might see the beating or the black eyes...... I doubt they are going to see their mom commit adultery
Throw in the fact that boys who grow up in a physically abusive household have like a 50-60% chance to be abusive to their future wife, last time I checked. Growing up with an abusive father, I'd rather have a higher chance at being lower in income throughout my childhood and when entering adulthood as opposed to having a higher chance of being physically abusive my future partners once I'm an adult
Oh children most of the times definitely know if their parents are cheating or not if they are older than 10...It's the spouses who mostly remain oblivious for a longer period.
@@vivek27789 they aren’t saying the children wouldn’t know, they’re saying they wouldn’t physically witness their mothers adultery the way they’d witness her being abused.
I think @whatever is not taking responsibility for his own show. You can't check out on the conversation part of a podcast, the content is more important than all the technical stuff. You need to hire more people to do the tech and be a checked in host.
I do feel he cared more about the backlash than the horrible takes those men on his side of the table were giving. Because during the aftermath, he was mad at Mels "clipping/editing" and being vocal saying he doesn't believe that stuff. But at no point does he name drop the men who said that awful stuff and bring up any annoyance with them. Which would probably be the first thing if someone disagrees with them.
I actually disagree with you on that take. It wouldnt make sense for you to say thats what he'd do. How many podcasts has he been in? How many bad takes have been said by people on his side of the table? Even as a host he doesnt need to give his own opinion on everything. Or, at the very least, we shouldn assume he agrees with it unless he's also defending it. Now, it was a long podcast and i did not watch that part yet, but unless brian supported the idea of enduring a violent relationship, i think we should cut him some slack. He's new to this and is going to get better over time. Compared to fnf, his podcast is much better and much less toxic. I was actually surprised to hear about this controversy since it didnt seem like the guests on the show were that wild tbh
@@waskarvega5301 a bad take about a relationship etc is in no way the same thing as an extremely bad take about physical abuse. Also, how is he new to this? He's in his 30s, does several shows each week which is more than the average podcaster, and has been in it for several years now has he not?
The way Brian walked back so hard after he got railed is hella funny. I actually feel bad for him haha. I think there were times where Brian was not playing “moderator” with his line of questioning but it’s clear that he wasn’t wildly religious like the others. He made that point when Mel brought up the thumbnails he uses for his livestreams.
1:29:00 Based debate tips 1. Don't let people pivot away from questions 2. Try to be well read on the subject you are debate 3. Be aware of who you are arguing with. 4. Be aware of common pitfalls or traps you can fall into. 5. Practice practice practice. 1:16:00 Interesting Equity vs Equality take
Destiny you were in the absolute right with firing back at them! People can make fun of your hair or name all they want, but in reality, no righteous brother or father would want their sister or daughter to "endure". It blows my mind using religion to fit their narrative. They are absolute hypocrites
I do not like Brian. He’s a little weasel. The INSTANT he doesn’t approve of a topic, he shuts it down and even kicks the guest out. So, yes, him standing passively by does reasonable imply he’s ambivalent at best to abuse. Just be a man and fess up to your mistake
Whatever podcast has a clip where they ask ladies to rate themselves. They pull out a bag of makeup remover after and then all of them are silent and looked defeated. I was curious how they even could come back after that. I watched full video and what REALLY happened was he pulled out the bag and all of the girls don’t even look like they care. And one girl immediately says “give me that and I’ll be an 11”. Now that’s out of context.
@@mikethepokemaster2012 Nah it's just a non white guy thing. I've seen the guys she hangs around too, almost all black men. The pasty skin, big and tall but not fat she hits that white girl spot even if she's no model
He comes off as more of a people pleaser to me than a grifter. Makes him susceptible to nodding his head and agreeing whether he does or doesn't because he isn't actively engaging with what people are saying. He's just too agreeable until it blows up on him.
Nah he isnt grifter he is dude bro like joe rogan who will just agree to most shit people say in front of him. I remember him from bb misc days he would post hes shitty pranks in misc and would get like couple thousand views just from that sub-forum alone. Never i thought of him as a grifter. Just a regular ass dude w/o a strong backbone
Funny how the people who cry about women not talking responsibility are trying to run from and obfuscate what they clearly said on that podcast. Instead of taking responsibility for what they said people like MLD are now claiming the Melina apparently doctored the clip to make them "appear" saying to endure physical abuse. They clearly said and meant it. And now that they are being called out, they are trying to shift responsibility for what THEY clearly said. Ridiculous and super bad faith.
18:23 Huh? The convo was about whether you should stay or leave in an abusive relationship. She didnt just throw abuse in the end, it was at the start.
This whatever podcast guy honestly seems like a pretty good guy with a couple misconceptions of the world. I wonder how much his views would change if he joined the orbit
I think that guy is mostly in this for the money. I watched some podcasts after the destiny one and he looks like he doesnt want to be there most of the time. All he really does is read superchats and make sure the stream is running.
One of the reason's I hate that statistic about divorce that other side always bring up is that 70% of women initiate it, as if to blame women for divorce as if initiate is the same as fault or as if they didn't have a good reason to.
Pearl will never take the side of women. No matter what, she will find a way to excuse what men do and demonize women instead. I have a brother too and I do sympathize with men but she takes it to a wild extreme. 🙄
Pearl is a griefer and I think she trolls for views. However. I want to see desinty back up more where he thinks men aren't fucked over in divorce by women these days.
I like abrían. At least he is willing to come on and be influenced by Destiny. He seems to genuinely want to be more moderate and nuanced. I hope Destiny gets involved with the show, if so, it has the potential to be so good. Props to both Brian and Destiny.
You guys don’t understand how much going viral in a negative way affects your mind state because you’re nobodies i remember even Myron was visibility stressed on camera when the whole internet was trying to cancel them saying the worst shit possible on all their socials. I don’t care about these RP guys but you tough internet nerds would lose sleep if you were in Brian’s shoes right now for something he didn’t even say.
@@lampad4549 he’s an obvious grifter capitalizing on the red pill to make money. And the funniest part is how low effort it is. He isn’t read up on any of the talking points so anything he says is mostly surface level shit and he hosts a podcast where he barely even contributes neither as host or panelist.
If he actually doesn’t agree then instead of weaseling around it, saying “I don’t agree, you don’t know what I believe” and clinging to the point that he didn’t have to openly disagree, he should disavow what they said and say what his actual beliefs are
to be fair he sort of did and can flip it on destiny and say u didnt say anything when erin was speaking so its right to assume he just agrees with her ? i agree he handled the situation extremely poorly but destiny was lowkey bad faith to clown him and say he was weaseling when he just handled the situation poorly, he doesnt seem super confrontational or anything so i dont think hes bullshitting just made a bad decision and needs to learn as a host u need to let the audience know ur stance
But destiny did say something .. rewatch the stream before commenting again. He is very much weaseling. he knows he’s in hot water and doesn’t want the heat which is why he came on destiny’s stream to plead his case.
@@Crazyconfedy no he doesnt , he waits till she gets kicked off then starts to go against her points, lowkey destiny lost a little respect on this one bc he just seems like he wants to one up every red pill guy , he noticed his point was flawed and started using extremes to prove his point instead of conceding and these guys were actually rlly cool w him compared to fnf always being homophobic to destiny, Brian seemed genuinely hurt destiny was going so hard against him, sort of messed up
I don't think one needs to say their opinion on everything they oppose, but there are some topics, and DV would be one, where the host definitely should state their opinion when the talk of "enduring" comes up. If Brian is too unwell to speak up then he should take a longer break until he can feel up to doing the job of hosting and being responsible for his own podcast.
I don't think I buy into this 'host needs to disavow' idea. If destiny has a nazi call in does he have to tell us he doesn't hate the jews? It seems like something people pick on when they don't have another avenue of attack imo
We when he has Nuck Fuentes on, he does push back. This guy can push back on girls doing exactly what men do, but he won't push back at all on such a radical stance?
Part of the problem for Brian is the physical presentation of the whole show. He has two camera angles total, and he typically puts all of the red pill people on the left side and all the opponents on the right. That set up is guaranteed to condition your viewers to have a subconscious us vs them set up. With that said, don’t be surprised when your seat placement resonates with viewer perception, ESPECIALLY as the host. Maybe try placing yourself in the middle to really drive home that you’re the moderator? Also gives you that Last Supper vibe with you being Jesus if you’re into that. In comparison, F&F actually have an interesting set up. F&F are on opposite sides of the table always, the main guest are at the head of the table front and center, and the normal guests are sandwhiched inbetween. Despite how the show is ran with all the railroading F&F do, the set up is very conducive for discussion AND it’s aesthetically pleasing. Take notes, Brian.
Brian is so scared to talk now. He deff trying to do damage control. MLB or MLD idk his name probably does abuse woman physically that's why he believes that. but Brian needs to grow a back bone n stick to what he stands for.
Brian sits on the same side of the table as all the redpill guys in every episode and he clearly grills girls about questions harder than he does guys. If he wants to appear as an impartial moderator, maybe he should sit in the middle of the two sides debating and ask difficult questions to both sides. Otherwise he just comes off as Fresh and Myron trying to dunk on girls all the time.
In total honesty I have watched a few whatever podcasts and Brian's assertion that he just sort of let the conversation flow is true for the most part, he lets things get heated as well as lets guests say what they want unless they are going to put the pod at risk. So I see where he is coming from for sure, however I agree with Steven that if that is not his stance he should have said something in that moment. Id assume this is a learning moment for him.
I work in criminal investigations. Physical abuse is only rare in well educated, financially stable homes. It's VERY common in areas where the majority of people there are poorly educated, and at financial extremes: very poor or very rich. These guys assume everyone is a college educated upper middle class person from happy homes. So it drives me crazy when these guys will claim that abuse and SA is rare based purely on perceived anecdotal experience and not on easy to look up facts. There's a reason redpill podcasts always have Onlyfans cam girls and strippers on their show and never divorce lawyers, criminal investigators, family law attorneys, cops, or doctors. I think even they know that if they have experts on their shows, all of their claims will be debunked. So remember the next time you find an influencer who's "spitting facts!", check to see if they ever have experts or specialists on their show. If the answer is no, and every claim is followed by perception "I think", "I feel", "I feel like..."-- it's bullshit.
We need to get past this age of interviewing bottom of the barrel onlyfans girls and women in open relationships. These are the exact people whose opinion will literally never matter to me.
I wish destiny drilled it into Brian’s head more how he needs to be held accountable for what his CO hosts or guests on his side of the aisle if he doesn’t want to face this backlash
Destiny is breaking down Brian's logic like Brian's breaking down the OF girls on his podcast. Who's the bit** here🤷♀️ Brian taking no accountability and is voicing his point of view when he feels "safe". Destiny's conclusion is perfectly on point
I was threatened with being accused of abuse and taking my superannuation by my ex's lawyer if I didn't hand over my house to her. Because she sent it to my workplace which was the Australian army, I was then immediately threatened I would lose my job. The worst thing is it was her who was psychologically and physically abusive towards me for years and all I ever did was threw a bed pillow at her because she just wouldn't let up about me wanting my family to come to my marchout parade for the army. Calling me a mummy's boy and being hella patronising. She also was in an an abusive relationship prior to me which I now doubt.
It's unfortunate that people understand the red pill in such a narrow scope. It's stories like these that drove a lot of men to these spaces in the past, because no one else gives a fuck about men as victims.
Destiny, do you really believe sociology researcher PHDs will get funding to do studies that would eventually be used as data which could be weaponized against actual abuse victims? Do you really not understand what a land mine it would be to “uncover” high false accusations rates, knowing that those numbers would eventually be used to try and discredit abuse victims in court? You will never see numbers and stats on false abuse accusations because those stats will 100% be used to silence real victims in the future. Please stop playing dumb and admit that we will never have good data. I have 3 friends who were falsely accused of abuse, at least one of them being the actual abuse victim himself. The truth is obvious right in front of you.
This guy literally said, "woah hey I gotta call you out on that" when it ias a girl saying she wants a guy to pay for the first date. But he will say nothing when they are talking about enduring abuse. He can't be serious. He is so biased towards his guest and anti women rhetoric. He can make a lot of excuses and claim to not be doing PR, but he's acting like a jackass. Hey buddy, we see how you act on the pod. We all watched it
This dude literally showers Destiny with compliments when he feels uncomfortable, gets pushed back, or wants to seem agreeable. This forgettable man, Byron, brings up boringass Lex, and then acts like, "oopsie, i gotta brb" and then "forgetting what the convo was about." and when Destiny just spews random Destiny things, Byron says, "I gotta give you your flowers Destiny. Master, debater." okay, guy. We get it, you're a fan. Then this Byron guy claims English is his second language , and when asked to speak French since it's his first language, Byron damn near quotes a popular part in Labelle's "Lady marmalade." Then back tracking and says, "I moved here when I was 5" when Destiny laughs and asks if he did two or three years of French in school. I'm so fucking embarrassed for this fan, lmaooooooooooooo.
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It sounds like you were about to say government provides lawyers for free if people can't afford it -- #1 they do not provide family law attorneys, only public defenders for criminal charges, #2 they will appoint an attorney if you can't afford, but will often still send you a bill afterward, similar situation to emergency medical care.
I really have to ask now... What is red pill? What is game? What is high value? What is woke? What is a man? What is a woman? What is a douche nozzle?
Silence while your fans are sending death threats??? Are you co-signing them?
@@emdo.unlimited555 i got 1 more. wtf are you talking about?
@@kentjohnson2243 Destiny might connect the dots given he's been on all these videos where these inane questions have surfaced. I'm just here for the algo.
Subjecting us to Pearl is emotional abuse.
Just endure it bro. Don’t be such a beta
Pearl unironically makes me want to off myself
Endure.
@@redacted5035is the anti farha sentiment still alive? I thought she was funny and based?
I see endure is going to be around for a long time after this segment 😂
The irony of a dude who constantly talks about women taking accountability for their actions (and constantly pushes back on their views) malding over the idea that as a show host he is responsible for those he hosts and not speaking out against heinous crap they say is SO on brand for these red pill chodes.
this
Hey Macabre!
He did speak out against later on, points for that no?
@@lampad4549 man, the standards are in the gutter aren't they
My brotha!
Listening to pearl give dating advice is like listening to a homeless man give financial advice.
ikr
You listen to him but only listen for what not to do
Or someone born without legs giving running advice
Pearl's defect seems to be how sheltered she is. A lack of genuine socialization early in her life.
Don't do the homeless man dirty like that bro
LLITREALLY!
Pearl: Argues all of her points on personal anecdote.
**someone else brings up a personal anecdote**
Pearl: Well I don't really want to get into your personal story.
Haha absolutely
HYPOCRITE
This. It’s frustrating too because her anecdote is gospel and vague
So f#@king true!!!
Omg so true!!!! I hate it
Props to Brian for enduring to save this relationship
Gottem
He operates on his love of $$$. That’s why he’s on here. Because that looked absolutely awful.
Watch it
@@IAmAllEyes For real, he got assblasted by the girls, and now he's looking for his own redemption arc so he doesn't continue to look like a POS.
@@IAmAllEyes I don't think you got the joke
It's wild to think a redpill podcaster would be scared of being canceled, bro might not be built for this.
I've heard him say he's not a redpill guy. This is part of the problem I guess, these days being at all critical of modern women is basically synonymous with the red pill which is a whole ecosystem of world views
@@off6848 Then he kinda needs to understand that things like these are gonna happen when your popular and all you can really doo is explain yourself and be honest.
@@off6848his short clips literally feeds the redpill online industrial meme machine. I don’t think he gets off if he says he isn’t red pill yet all of his body of work is essential to the existence and maintenance of the online red pill industry. This is like Tim Pool calling himself a centrist, but his values don’t even align close to what is politically acceptable in the center.
He's definitely not cut from that cloth. Dude comes off as soft overall
@@henrytep8884 Thats because redpill has become so broad. Anything anti-conformist on the issue of men and women is considered redpill now. It used to mean something more specific. Specifically that the ways in which women and men act can be studied the same way animals can be studied and that women are slaves to their subconscious biology in their mating values.
I'm pretty sure Brian is a traditionalist conservative meaning that the observations good or bad can be explained by the larger cultural morality and material conditions.
Basically he thinks that modern women have a toxic worldview but can change if society permits it
Brian needs to accept that it looked bad, disavow it and move on
You can't stay silent as the host of the show.
@@stargazerkawaii The way people are made to sit down (red pills on one side and feminist or so the other) is not by coincidence. He as a moderator didn't happen to sit on that side rather than in the middle or so just because.
Now he wants to pretend he has nothing to do, must think people are fools
He is the host. It's not his role to have an opinion but to allow others to present their own attributing anything to him makes no sense. Especially when he was focused on things aside from the debate half the time.
@@stargazerkawaii you actually can. Only brain dead people assume a person's beliefs based on what others have said. A moderator typically doesn't engage like that. He's kind of a hybrid host/moderator. He shouldn't have to push back on literally every point others make. Especially when he had destiny there to give adequate pushback. Really disappointing to see destiny doing that dumb leftist shit where you accuse someone of believing something that they never said.
That's what he's trying to do , doofus. Why tf do you think he came on the show. He literally said he knows how people are taking it. His point is that it shouldn't be that way but he does accept that it is so.
5:28 - I actually fact checked this study and it was from 2002 which is like... before internet pr0n even existed so it's irrelevant. The technology is so different these days and the data was probably taken from the year 2000 or earlier which was a time when it took like 3 hours to download a single image file.
It's like how all the red pillers love to use the OKCupid study that's like 14 years old and came out before dating apps existed. They never add the nuance of that study which is that women will message the guys they perceive as below average anyway. Which kills their point of men not getting attention. And then I heard Jordan Peterson quote the OkCupid study! By the way the study DOES NOT tell you how many participants there were so we don't even know if it's enough people to describe the behaviors of hundreds of millions of people.
Seriously people's ability to appropriately use/quote statistics is depressing.
Dang that's crazy
@@natediaz1863 Looking through their video titles it honestly amazes me they put out a comment this coherent.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 I too love only reading headlines
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 or maybe its you thats incoherent
51:05 Brian has said MULTIPLE times on his podcast that women initiate divorce disproportionately & disadvantage men financially afterwards. So idk why he’s acting now like it’s preposterous for someone to assume these views don’t reflect his own
The fact he was shook about other men being against abuse in marriage …says everything I need to know about the men that he is surrounded by.
Not just that but it says something about his ability to judge character. If he can join people in hosting many podcasts but doesn’t know that they can’t agree with him on something like that then his ability to pick his friends/business partners is atrocious. That probably also bleeds into his world views as well.
destiny alone destroying the red pill is super fun to watch
@@natediaz1863 As a mature person who has seen many of these fads come and go, it's on it's way out hard.
@@MawcDrums even if the modern iteration which is going away from its original goal is fading away the red pill wont die because the probp3ms it addressed hasnt gone away
@@natediaz1863 the redpill has existed for decades? Good one dude
Nah. I think this is good for the redpill. A lot of people currently in the redpill space are grifting and or aren’t entirely right in the head. This will hopefully change the redpill community for the better.
I just started watching a week ago and I agree lol
Their go-to defense is that everything was edited or out of context. They can’t specify what actually changed, they just insist that it’s edited or out of context. But sorry, too many of us saw the whole thing and they’re absolute trash.
@@uhhhfrick9767 The full clip looks worse than Melina’s edit and either way it didn’t even come close to misrepresenting them at all so if it was edited to be shorter it’s completely inconsequential. They try to act like it was edited to change what they said and it wasn’t. To be fair.
@@uhhhfrick9767 they said cheating is worse than physical abuse for the kids in a marriage. They said so many wild things in the full clip. It is so cucked that they won’t just own what they said.
I watched the whole thing live and Melina’s editing did not change the tone or intention of the message whatsoever.
@@uhhhfrick9767 To be fair, you're actually just wrong lol.
@@Myblacknadz How does that relate to what I said?
Brian: Dest bro please pass me a lifeline!
Dest:............
Bro was actually 1 hp death's door mode the entire convo 💀
Dest 😩
Bro was GLAZIN'
Brian is the luckiest host of all time. Has no idea how to run a show but got big because he can slice and dice clips to make his podcast seem interesting.
Half the time he isn’t even in his chair
He got big off of pranks then completely changed course into something he's not familiar with. Gets big guests because they see his sub count
And he is a TRASH debater. Frustrating to watch. Can only regurgitate repetitive remedial talking points, without the deep understanding to adjust on the fly.
He’s making hundreds of thousands of dollars so if you think its easy you do it
Yeah there are alot of times where the guest would leave for a few minutes lol
Feminism brought up so many new industries, as long as American women remain so naive these kinds of shows will prosper
If you match someone’s actions and they lose it, there is a major problem. Brian can’t handle the slightest criticism.
He’s pretty weak
Is why he dates 18 year olds when he’s 35
Funny how he shits and throws his male cohoasts under the bus time and time again. Yet doesn't like to be interrupted
@@MaryRose86
Bingo baybeeee
@Enigmatic_Nomad Myron barely pushes back on male guests too. These redpillers are all postering up and non confrontational.
@EnigmaticNomad I was thinking the same when i was watching Whateve Podcast.
I need to know Tay Zonday’s feelings on this matter.
WHERE IS JA RULE?!
Seconded
CHOCOLATE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN
SOME STAY DRY BUT OTHER FEEL THE PAIN
CHOCOLATE RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIN
@@closcer3950 🗑️
😂
Whatever host says he didn't feel the conversation was going to violate TOS but I think that people promoting ab*se is pretty close to violating TOS.
Ay i just saw think before you sleep here enjoy both of your content
I thought u hated destiny, I must of missed an arc
To be fair they were not defending abuse. None of them would say “beat your wives!” as promotion.
They were taking an extreme position in their defense of marriage by not holding abusive men to account for being degenerate human beings.
A far cry from promoting it. Although you always did have brain dead takes.
You make baller videos
100% I think he should take the red pills advice and be accountable for his own podcast smh
Destiny, puhleez do not let up on these fools. You’re single handedly fixing the internet.
These CLOWNS
I've honestly never thought I'd see a single internet "celebrity" do so much to change the landscape of the entire red-pill scene in such a good and productive way. He's pivotal.
Yes I hope destiny continues to expose these clowns
Poor Destiny is so sick of it, every redpill podcast is exactly the same, you could replay an old episode of F&F and cal it new you wouldn’t know the difference.
@TonyCox1351 I feel like myrons changed a lil 😅
15:00 --- The woman goes to the church to complain that her husband is beating her.
- The church talks to the husband to ASK WHY he's beating his wife. The husband denies it, or says that the devil tempted him or some shit.
-The Husband comes back home, beats the wife so hard that she'll never speak about this never again or just kills her.
That's how these situations play out.
Exactly, going to the church is pointless
@@curtishancock432 They would like to need to detain the husband first, because no one who is beating his wife for any reason really is going to change with one conversation especially if the party he's having the convo with doesn't have any immediate power over him. What happens is that victims gets punished for speaking up.
Brian - "I don't attribute fault necessarily to the man or the woman. What I do know is that women overwhelmingly initiate divorce. Who's at fault? I can't say. "
Destiny - "Well what would be the point of bringing up that women initiate divorce if you're not placing blame on them?"
Destiny is a MASTER debater. He doesn't allow ANY bs to pass him by.
Bravo 👏🏿
Flex of the Year: "You guys have never had death threats before?" - Destiny
Him saying Mel’s video was “disingenuous” was disingenuous …. Funny hearing him attempting damage control.
havent seen the pod yet, but what is mels video?
Or maybe he just had a wrong opinion, bozo? Ever think of that? Why tf is everything disingenuous with you goofy ass folk? Sometimes people are just genuinely wrong. Btw did you even watch her video?
What was mels video? I thought she just reacted to charlies video ?
It’s interesting that the question was IF someone IS in an abusive situation and they can’t respond to that. All they’ve done is question the hypothetical situation where a woman is abused.
Yeah their entire disagreement should have been over what constitutes abuse. A perfectly reasonable response would be “yes if you are legitimately being abused you should divorce but people are too quick to classify domestic squabbles as abuse”. Then again the _endure_ guy believes you shouldn’t divorce even in legitimate abuse so who am I kidding
This kinda thing is like when people point out that a comparison (analogy/metaphor/whatev) isn't 100% identical between the things being compared. It's like these people never passed the fifth grade.
No the problem is, that they tried to take a rare situation compared to numbers of where it doesnt happen, to make a point on relationships in total. And in no scientific studies would that be ok to make any kind of assumptions based on it. When you listen to guys like Destiny, it sounds like all women are abused by men.
@@RolaiEckolo lol it kills me when i’m like “if you had to either __ or __, which would you prefer?” and i get an answer like “neither” or “that would never happen.” 💀
@@Chrischi_Z_GermanGUI Do you believe that domestic abuse/violence is rare? Isn't it the case that like 1/3rd of woman have gone through domestic abuse at some point in their life? How far removed are you from what happens on this planet?
You're simply overexaggerating their claims in order to dismiss them due to absurdity, in the ways that they explain it isn't at all the case that I've EVER interpreted it as them saying "All women are abused by men". That thought has never glanced my mind, nor is it ever insinuated by what I've heard any person ever say...
Ahhh here we go . The standard "I was taken out of context" defense. She asked him specifically about abuse and he said "endure".
Pearl: I need specifics.
Also Pearl: *Proceeds to speak in the vaguest terms imaginable.*
"I agreed with everything everyone on my side was saying up until when what they said effected me personally, and I don't understand why everyone is upset"
It is high quality men thing I guess. I wouldn’t waste my time with this kind. Way too feminine to me.
So pretty much every Destiny Stan also?
I heard a guy call Destiny bad faith because ..instead of just having a conversation his uses facts and numbers.
I keep seeing them call Destiny bad faith, but give no examples. I swear there must be some dude with a bunch of burner accounts commenting
@@kami_1789 😅
The audacity
Pearl uses the fact that she's exposed to SO MANY men on these podcasts/shows as her understanding (having not ever been in a serious relationship) and that the podcast conversation experience gives her the credibility to assert her position, but she's also has a LOT of women on her shows stating their side and she just moves on/flippantly acknowledges it and counters it with a boiler-plate mansplainy/pick-me talking point.
Pearl also has no idea if the men she meets are telling her the truth. She hates women like crazy.
@@sunnyta1990 She does this for clout and money. Wait till she hits 30 she will sing a different song and tell everyone she was brainwashed by the redpill. Redpill is dying so we might see that soon.
They are sick in the head or severely ignorant. They think it's better to grow up seeing the woman you love most in the world as a child getting treated like a dog or servant rather than growing up with divorced parents? They have no idea how much that experience warps your perception of the world.
@@curtishancock432divorce is far better for children than watching their mother being abused. When a child is subjected to that it’s also abusive for the child. Many times a man who would hit his woman would also beat the child.
@@curtishancock432 And he still is. Both him and his ex are crazy celebrities off their rocker and doing incredibly unhealthy, toxic, and abusive things in relationships.
And emotional abuse is also incredibly damaging to children. People who end up in abusive relationships often do so because they never had a healthy one modeled for them.
@@haruhirogrimgar6047 I'm with you when it comes to the general emotional abuse stuff, but you seriously haven't a single clue regarding the Johnny Depp situation.
If you care about misinformation and not harming individuals, you should probably stop talking about, untill you're better informed.
@@rohanjarande The person you're replying to didn't even say any details about the Heard-Depp thing, what are you saying they "haven't a single clue" based on? Heard is clearly an abusice crazy bitch and she was the one making allegations, but I think it's pretty fucking clear their relationship was mutually abusive. Even the jurors thought so, for fucks sake.
@@rohanjarandehe case didn't prove depps innocence vs ALL ABUSE , it was specifically the black eye and lies she said to the tabloid, Depp DID ABUSE heard but not one sidedly/ unjustified
Every time Pearl talks I’m just ready to be gaslit
Brian needs to be a braver and more competent host rather than keeping the topics shallow and repetitive
Plant power 💪
If you went back to that moment in the podcast and asked Brian what his thoughts were, he would absolutely align with his boys. He's only backtracking now because he's getting cooked by his own fans AND Destiny came off best in the podcast
Timbah in the comments! 📌 this ASAP
Also looking forward to the next vid, hype!
Not all of his boys agreed with this take. People are just assuming the christian guy literally said if someone is getting abused you should leave them and even said he disagrees with the other guy.
@@cngotham4111 Because he did push back in any way to the person sitting next to him that said if you are getting beaten in a relationship you need to endure. If the guy next to him said "I actually think abortions at 9 months are totally reasonable I get the feeling he might have had something to say"
What makes you think Brian would endorse abuse? Or even enduring physical abuse?
@@chethanx666 The fact that he didn't say anything to push back against or in any way separate his opinion from a dude saying "ENDURE! ENDURE! When asked specifically about a woman being abused by her husband". When he specifically jumped in to speak on other topics and made his opinion clear.
"I'm just the host/moderator!"
Cue clips from his **own** channel where he's "owning" women.
It's always insane to me the amount of bullets these types of people have to bite to be consistent on their view. Maybe Mel misspoke a little bit, but the fact that she got them to say "Cheating worse than abuse" was incredible to me.
That's the only thing g that matters 😂😉 everything else is bullshit no matter what they say. They couldn't answer when it came to the woman's physical safety but were quick when it came to her cheating which would hurt men's emotional states 😂
@@lavellelee5734 Sad but true :l
@@lavellelee5734 But women conduct violence on men more. Women initiate 70% of non-mutual and 25% mutual more than men domestic violence. Look it up. Also men and women cheat about the same rate.
In UK law, raising your voice to your spouse is abuse - I know many men being abused on the daily by their missus - But no, physical abuse is far worse than cheating - but cheating and mental abuse combined? Probably worse than physical abuse?
They are disrespectful towards the women, but are more chill to the men in that podcast channel.
Dude Brian is such a hypocrite. They literally ambush girls and cut clips up to have them put on their channel lmaooo
Melina is a strong opinionated person, but her delivery is calm and kind always. I am so confused why these guys think she’s so disrespectful and disruptive
Because she should be making them sandwiches!
She made the unforgivable transgression of talking back in a clip therefore, she must be held accountable for her crime! lol
Brian sounds as if he's just now finding out that "guilt by association" is a thing. People will absolutely judge you by the company you keep. Is it right? No. But that's how humans operate. The fact that he's just realizing this tells me that he lives in a comfy little bubble that left him ignorant and inexperienced with no idea how the world works. He's a dumb kid and he carries himself like one. If I had only ever heard him speak without seeing him, I'd have guessed him to be 17 years old.
That said, he can't push back on the other guys on his podcast. They're his tribe, and he perceives himself of a lower social rank than them. A lesser male, if you will. If he deviates from the tribal doctrines or contradicts the stronger males, he'll invite their disapproval. Or worse, they'll exile him from the community.
Then destiny and Abas tribe are sending him death threats and they're guilty by association.
I think someone said in another comment that he's 35? And dating 18 year olds? But I dunno if that's factually correct.
I think both of these statements are the best way to describe Brian in this whole conversation. That said, I do feel for him a bit. He seems like a chill guy that doesn't have any bad intentions. But he's caught up in the red pill stuff even if he may not agree fully with them. And he doesn't know how to not be agreeable towards them without losing that part of his following.
@Chet Hanx I'm not sure that's the same as being with someone on a debate and not pushing back against them for their wild takes. I'm sure that if someone like Aba or Destiny was on a panel and someone from their side said something as wild as a death threat, they would stand against that pretty easily. Similar to how destiny is saying he tried distancing himself from Erin's takes on the patriarchy.
Brian is pretending to be ignorant and pathetic to avoid accountability. The Gameboy abuse line at the end was gold. Brian kept contradicting his stance that he was just ignorant in his complacency lol it was really pathetic sheesh. Destiny called him out at least twice he was enjoying it. Brian is Hella dumb lol.
Aba is so refreshing. It’s sad how rare his perspective seems these days. Maybe it’s just the courage that’s rare. These people are deranged. 😐
It’s wild that there are so many people who are okay with subjecting women to a dangerous crisis just to avoid the inconvenience of divorce.
Aba is a gem, sometimes he says weird think and a bit Red pill sauce but apart from it, he has a balanced and fair way to see things.
Aba legit just glaze's destiny tho
Aba brought me to Destiny 😁
I have to say that I am impressed how Brian is able to endure it.
He’s weak.
@@Observette misandry.
Bend over at take it Brian
@@kentjohnson2243How is it misandry. Using misandry like this is just as stupid as people who use misogyny for everything.
@@voidtempering8700 Yeah but I bet if it was misogyny you'd not have made that comment.
Man, Brian was trying to alienate himself from the “endure” sht so hard 😂 dude! Your silence is enough for people to come to that conclusion. As a host, you have to keep the same energy for all topics. You let this play out without a “wow” or a facial expression. I know what you’re about. It’s crazy 😂
The Brain dude was trying so hard to convice destiny that he he's just a moderator, and doesn't agree with any of his guests views. In fact he doent even listen when the cameras are rolling. He just checks out. He was having 7 bad head aches that day too. He's doing everything to distance hinself from those comments. Hes scared lol
Brian feels like someone's really chill uncle who's kind of old school but is trying to keep up with modern topics.
A woman cheating is worse for the children than it is if the dad is beating the woman?
Idk, I'm thinking the kids might see the beating or the black eyes...... I doubt they are going to see their mom commit adultery
Throw in the fact that boys who grow up in a physically abusive household have like a 50-60% chance to be abusive to their future wife, last time I checked. Growing up with an abusive father, I'd rather have a higher chance at being lower in income throughout my childhood and when entering adulthood as opposed to having a higher chance of being physically abusive my future partners once I'm an adult
Oh children most of the times definitely know if their parents are cheating or not if they are older than 10...It's the spouses who mostly remain oblivious for a longer period.
@@vivek27789 they aren’t saying the children wouldn’t know, they’re saying they wouldn’t physically witness their mothers adultery the way they’d witness her being abused.
Pearl, the exact type of person who discourages abuse victims from reporting abuse, saying women should report abuse 🙃
Funny how a guy who keeps cosigning on the notion of women taking accountability, can't do so when it comes to him.
Brian is destiny’s new puppy dog
Puppy and owner play.
@@Rellikan dont say it like that lmfao
I think @whatever is not taking responsibility for his own show. You can't check out on the conversation part of a podcast, the content is more important than all the technical stuff. You need to hire more people to do the tech and be a checked in host.
Yeah that was cringe
Brian sounded like he spent an hour asking destiny how handle the situation
I don't trust this persona Brian was giving off. He's doing damage control. The moment he jumped off the call his true face returned.
"I'm not a conservative, first of all" wow, I have never had someone be so adamant they weren't exactly what they were since Among Us
Wow, I heard that at the exact same time I read your comment
He's a lvl 55 Pepe poster
SCREAMING💀
I do feel he cared more about the backlash than the horrible takes those men on his side of the table were giving.
Because during the aftermath, he was mad at Mels "clipping/editing" and being vocal saying he doesn't believe that stuff. But at no point does he name drop the men who said that awful stuff and bring up any annoyance with them. Which would probably be the first thing if someone disagrees with them.
Anything but criticizing his alpha acquaintances, they might exile him from alpha orbitdom
It is the way a teenager and 20-something yr old guy would act... selfishly. He needs to grow up.
I actually disagree with you on that take. It wouldnt make sense for you to say thats what he'd do. How many podcasts has he been in? How many bad takes have been said by people on his side of the table? Even as a host he doesnt need to give his own opinion on everything. Or, at the very least, we shouldn assume he agrees with it unless he's also defending it. Now, it was a long podcast and i did not watch that part yet, but unless brian supported the idea of enduring a violent relationship, i think we should cut him some slack. He's new to this and is going to get better over time. Compared to fnf, his podcast is much better and much less toxic. I was actually surprised to hear about this controversy since it didnt seem like the guests on the show were that wild tbh
@@waskarvega5301 a bad take about a relationship etc is in no way the same thing as an extremely bad take about physical abuse.
Also, how is he new to this? He's in his 30s, does several shows each week which is more than the average podcaster, and has been in it for several years now has he not?
@T B No he used to be a prankster, that's how he originally blew up. He pivoted into podcasting recently AFAIK.
The way Brian walked back so hard after he got railed is hella funny. I actually feel bad for him haha.
I think there were times where Brian was not playing “moderator” with his line of questioning but it’s clear that he wasn’t wildly religious like the others. He made that point when Mel brought up the thumbnails he uses for his livestreams.
He's lowkey happy that his podcast is going viral with black twitter, hes just concerned about the ToS and his monetization.
He has mentioned plenty of times he is not a man of faith etc
1:29:00
Based debate tips
1. Don't let people pivot away from questions
2. Try to be well read on the subject you are debate
3. Be aware of who you are arguing with.
4. Be aware of common pitfalls or traps you can fall into.
5. Practice practice practice.
1:16:00
Interesting Equity vs Equality take
What is Pearl's argument?
Women exxagerate abuse >>> women also abuse male partners >>> therefore women shouldn't ask for divorce????
I don't think women should be allowed to vote
Destiny you were in the absolute right with firing back at them! People can make fun of your hair or name all they want, but in reality, no righteous brother or father would want their sister or daughter to "endure".
It blows my mind using religion to fit their narrative.
They are absolute hypocrites
I just die inside intellectually when someone brings god/religion/any other supernatural shit. I just ignore everything they have to say.
Most religions and religious ppl are hypocrites so it’s par for the course and should be expected
@Z. M I like destiny but he lets other men smash his wife😂 very insightful man indeed but I wouldn’t see him as the pillar of masculinity either
@@mrclean9513 kinda low value of a man to think about another man's relationship that is open...
And sinful.
I do not like Brian. He’s a little weasel. The INSTANT he doesn’t approve of a topic, he shuts it down and even kicks the guest out. So, yes, him standing passively by does reasonable imply he’s ambivalent at best to abuse.
Just be a man and fess up to your mistake
Brian has big 16 year old sitting with college kids energy
I think we are not beyond the 11 year old who are trying to impress friends and failed miserably every day.
he argues like my 3 year old
Whatever podcast has a clip where they ask ladies to rate themselves. They pull out a bag of makeup remover after and then all of them are silent and looked defeated.
I was curious how they even could come back after that. I watched full video and what REALLY happened was he pulled out the bag and all of the girls don’t even look like they care. And one girl immediately says “give me that and I’ll be an 11”.
Now that’s out of context.
He knows exactly what is happening is trying to play dumb
Destiny DO NOT let up, red pill and manosphere is suffering, everybody is calling them out, they will evaporate if this keeps up!
_These RedPill Bros are dropping harder than My Wife when Dinner isn’t ready…_
As you should. Break her down
Based
You too are a man of culture
omg thats so horrible...
It sounds like in her "documentary" she's only going to talk to people who fit her rhetoric and that seems like an extremely Pearl move
All that grifting and pandering but Pearl still can’t get a man to sleep with her.
I'd tap
coz she looks and sounds like a worn out nanny goat
@@off6848 low standards 😊
@@mikethepokemaster2012 Nah it's just a non white guy thing. I've seen the guys she hangs around too, almost all black men. The pasty skin, big and tall but not fat she hits that white girl spot even if she's no model
Well she’s definitely been ran thru by multiple guys, based on her own admission. They just won’t wife her lol
I think that Brian dude is a legit grifter. He says whatever he thinks benefits him in a given moment and doesn’t seem to hold actual beliefs
He comes off as more of a people pleaser to me than a grifter. Makes him susceptible to nodding his head and agreeing whether he does or doesn't because he isn't actively engaging with what people are saying. He's just too agreeable until it blows up on him.
Nah he isnt grifter he is dude bro like joe rogan who will just agree to most shit people say in front of him. I remember him from bb misc days he would post hes shitty pranks in misc and would get like couple thousand views just from that sub-forum alone. Never i thought of him as a grifter. Just a regular ass dude w/o a strong backbone
I think Destiny is the same way
Examples of Brian flip flopping for clout?
@@chethanx666 this video is an example wtf 😂
Funny how the people who cry about women not talking responsibility are trying to run from and obfuscate what they clearly said on that podcast.
Instead of taking responsibility for what they said people like MLD are now claiming the Melina apparently doctored the clip to make them "appear" saying to endure physical abuse.
They clearly said and meant it. And now that they are being called out, they are trying to shift responsibility for what THEY clearly said. Ridiculous and super bad faith.
Pearl's the type to see bruises on a woman and say she probably did it to herself
I may be naive or too charitable but I feel like Brian was being honest and has never been on the internet heat seat before.
Its honestly crazy how so much people shit on destiny for not having a large channel, but so many larger channels want to interact with him so bad
With how popular destiny has gotten lately idk how he doesn’t have waaay more subscribers
life of someone who just wants to grill
He might have more subscribers if his videos were shorter and not packed with so much lore
@@GoodnightJonboi yeah his videos r crazy long I didn’t think of that
@@curtishancock432 i feel like he only does that on Twitter but what he talk about is almost always consistent
Brian is pretty dim-witted for a debate show. This is like Fresh having his own podcast.
He should have stuck to the pranks
18:23 Huh? The convo was about whether you should stay or leave in an abusive relationship. She didnt just throw abuse in the end, it was at the start.
I don't understand how the Whatever Podcast is popular and how the host isn't clowned on for being so boring.
Hot chicks, superficial self-made bros, rage bait titles = click
He is his podcast wouldn't be worth watching if it weren't about him ragging on women lol.
Jealousy is not a good trait dear.
He honestly should hire another host and only intervene when it's a technical/TOS issue
@@itslordrashid3985 I criticize him for lack of personality and your response is, “You’re just jealous.”? Uhhh.. okay.
This whatever podcast guy honestly seems like a pretty good guy with a couple misconceptions of the world. I wonder how much his views would change if he joined the orbit
I can guarantee he doesn’t believe 90% of the things he says
@@erikryan8663 I think it’s pretty obvious that he does but found some of destiny’s arguments pretty compelling.
You are aware that people who hate each others guts can agree on things.
I think that guy is mostly in this for the money. I watched some podcasts after the destiny one and he looks like he doesnt want to be there most of the time. All he really does is read superchats and make sure the stream is running.
@@swisspunker94 He has very bad back issues. He's uncomfortable most of the time bc of it
One of the reason's I hate that statistic about divorce that other side always bring up is that 70% of women initiate it, as if to blame women for divorce as if initiate is the same as fault or as if they didn't have a good reason to.
Pearl will never take the side of women. No matter what, she will find a way to excuse what men do and demonize women instead. I have a brother too and I do sympathize with men but she takes it to a wild extreme. 🙄
Pearl is a griefer and I think she trolls for views. However. I want to see desinty back up more where he thinks men aren't fucked over in divorce by women these days.
I like abrían. At least he is willing to come on and be influenced by Destiny. He seems to genuinely want to be more moderate and nuanced. I hope Destiny gets involved with the show, if so, it has the potential to be so good. Props to both Brian and Destiny.
man that brian dude is being such a beta. not even a good liar.
Bryan called in just to cope
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! all that backlash got Brian SHOOK! i've never heard him sound so weak and defensive. he's like a timid deer conservative.
Lol that's his normal state of being, his affect is so childlike it's hard to even see him as a man.
You guys don’t understand how much going viral in a negative way affects your mind state because you’re nobodies i remember even Myron was visibility stressed on camera when the whole internet was trying to cancel them saying the worst shit possible on all their socials. I don’t care about these RP guys but you tough internet nerds would lose sleep if you were in Brian’s shoes right now for something he didn’t even say.
@stepfaniehawkins205 he seems more reasonable than the others what has he done besides not speaking up against his hosts?
@@lampad4549 he’s an obvious grifter capitalizing on the red pill to make money. And the funniest part is how low effort it is. He isn’t read up on any of the talking points so anything he says is mostly surface level shit and he hosts a podcast where he barely even contributes neither as host or panelist.
@lam PAd It's amazing how someone does something minorly wrong, and people want to hate every aspect of their character.
No one has to explain the difference in abuses...emotional, physical, mental and spritual abuse. ABUSE IS ABUSE!!! RUN WOMEN FROM ANY ABUSE.
If he actually doesn’t agree then instead of weaseling around it, saying “I don’t agree, you don’t know what I believe” and clinging to the point that he didn’t have to openly disagree, he should disavow what they said and say what his actual beliefs are
to be fair he sort of did and can flip it on destiny and say u didnt say anything when erin was speaking so its right to assume he just agrees with her ? i agree he handled the situation extremely poorly but destiny was lowkey bad faith to clown him and say he was weaseling when he just handled the situation poorly, he doesnt seem super confrontational or anything so i dont think hes bullshitting just made a bad decision and needs to learn as a host u need to let the audience know ur stance
But destiny did say something .. rewatch the stream before commenting again. He is very much weaseling. he knows he’s in hot water and doesn’t want the heat which is why he came on destiny’s stream to plead his case.
@@Crazyconfedy watched the whole thing, Destiny doesn’t really call out Erin’s poor behavior in the podcast. He just awkwardly laughs and ignores it
@@Crazyconfedy no he doesnt , he waits till she gets kicked off then starts to go against her points, lowkey destiny lost a little respect on this one bc he just seems like he wants to one up every red pill guy , he noticed his point was flawed and started using extremes to prove his point instead of conceding and these guys were actually rlly cool w him compared to fnf always being homophobic to destiny, Brian seemed genuinely hurt destiny was going so hard against him, sort of messed up
11 IQ take. Bozo.
Can't wait for him to duel Andrew Tate one on one in a Romanian prison cell as the final boss battle
I genuinely wanted to know Brian's take. But admittedly, I fully expected Pearl to answer the way she did even though it was a softball.
How can you be a moderator of your own podcast if you're "checked out" of the conversation?
I don't think one needs to say their opinion on everything they oppose, but there are some topics, and DV would be one, where the host definitely should state their opinion when the talk of "enduring" comes up. If Brian is too unwell to speak up then he should take a longer break until he can feel up to doing the job of hosting and being responsible for his own podcast.
I don't think I buy into this 'host needs to disavow' idea.
If destiny has a nazi call in does he have to tell us he doesn't hate the jews?
It seems like something people pick on when they don't have another avenue of attack imo
We when he has Nuck Fuentes on, he does push back. This guy can push back on girls doing exactly what men do, but he won't push back at all on such a radical stance?
Seems wild for the dude to just say he's checked out of the conversations on a show he's supposed to he hosting. Lmao
Part of the problem for Brian is the physical presentation of the whole show. He has two camera angles total, and he typically puts all of the red pill people on the left side and all the opponents on the right. That set up is guaranteed to condition your viewers to have a subconscious us vs them set up. With that said, don’t be surprised when your seat placement resonates with viewer perception, ESPECIALLY as the host. Maybe try placing yourself in the middle to really drive home that you’re the moderator? Also gives you that Last Supper vibe with you being Jesus if you’re into that.
In comparison, F&F actually have an interesting set up. F&F are on opposite sides of the table always, the main guest are at the head of the table front and center, and the normal guests are sandwhiched inbetween. Despite how the show is ran with all the railroading F&F do, the set up is very conducive for discussion AND it’s aesthetically pleasing. Take notes, Brian.
Interesting! Their set up should be like Jubilee's middle ground.
Brian is so scared to talk now. He deff trying to do damage control. MLB or MLD idk his name probably does abuse woman physically that's why he believes that. but Brian needs to grow a back bone n stick to what he stands for.
Brian sits on the same side of the table as all the redpill guys in every episode and he clearly grills girls about questions harder than he does guys. If he wants to appear as an impartial moderator, maybe he should sit in the middle of the two sides debating and ask difficult questions to both sides. Otherwise he just comes off as Fresh and Myron trying to dunk on girls all the time.
In total honesty I have watched a few whatever podcasts and Brian's assertion that he just sort of let the conversation flow is true for the most part, he lets things get heated as well as lets guests say what they want unless they are going to put the pod at risk. So I see where he is coming from for sure, however I agree with Steven that if that is not his stance he should have said something in that moment. Id assume this is a learning moment for him.
He “lets it flow” until he wants to ruin the show by interrupting the conversation because he wants to make money.
I work in criminal investigations. Physical abuse is only rare in well educated, financially stable homes. It's VERY common in areas where the majority of people there are poorly educated, and at financial extremes: very poor or very rich. These guys assume everyone is a college educated upper middle class person from happy homes. So it drives me crazy when these guys will claim that abuse and SA is rare based purely on perceived anecdotal experience and not on easy to look up facts. There's a reason redpill podcasts always have Onlyfans cam girls and strippers on their show and never divorce lawyers, criminal investigators, family law attorneys, cops, or doctors. I think even they know that if they have experts on their shows, all of their claims will be debunked. So remember the next time you find an influencer who's "spitting facts!", check to see if they ever have experts or specialists on their show. If the answer is no, and every claim is followed by perception "I think", "I feel", "I feel like..."-- it's bullshit.
JFC, Pearl is just the worst. She has a unique talent for being unlikable.
We need to get past this age of interviewing bottom of the barrel onlyfans girls and women in open relationships. These are the exact people whose opinion will literally never matter to me.
I wish destiny drilled it into Brian’s head more how he needs to be held accountable for what his CO hosts or guests on his side of the aisle if he doesn’t want to face this backlash
Destiny is breaking down Brian's logic like Brian's breaking down the OF girls on his podcast. Who's the bit** here🤷♀️ Brian taking no accountability and is voicing his point of view when he feels "safe". Destiny's conclusion is perfectly on point
Brian only reached out to Destiny because that podcast was a complete clusterfuck. It went viral and made him and his podcast look fucking terrible.
Bro they just let Pearl go on uniterrupted saying the craziest shit. That’s insane LMAO
I was threatened with being accused of abuse and taking my superannuation by my ex's lawyer if I didn't hand over my house to her. Because she sent it to my workplace which was the Australian army, I was then immediately threatened I would lose my job. The worst thing is it was her who was psychologically and physically abusive towards me for years and all I ever did was threw a bed pillow at her because she just wouldn't let up about me wanting my family to come to my marchout parade for the army. Calling me a mummy's boy and being hella patronising. She also was in an an abusive relationship prior to me which I now doubt.
It's unfortunate that people understand the red pill in such a narrow scope.
It's stories like these that drove a lot of men to these spaces in the past, because no one else gives a fuck about men as victims.
Sorry to hear that.
Sorry to hear that.
Destiny, do you really believe sociology researcher PHDs will get funding to do studies that would eventually be used as data which could be weaponized against actual abuse victims? Do you really not understand what a land mine it would be to “uncover” high false accusations rates, knowing that those numbers would eventually be used to try and discredit abuse victims in court? You will never see numbers and stats on false abuse accusations because those stats will 100% be used to silence real victims in the future. Please stop playing dumb and admit that we will never have good data. I have 3 friends who were falsely accused of abuse, at least one of them being the actual abuse victim himself. The truth is obvious right in front of you.
No wonder you couldn't keep her in line, you guys lost a war to birds before after all.
Really though, condolences mate.
This guy literally said, "woah hey I gotta call you out on that" when it ias a girl saying she wants a guy to pay for the first date. But he will say nothing when they are talking about enduring abuse. He can't be serious. He is so biased towards his guest and anti women rhetoric. He can make a lot of excuses and claim to not be doing PR, but he's acting like a jackass. Hey buddy, we see how you act on the pod. We all watched it
This dude literally showers Destiny with compliments when he feels uncomfortable, gets pushed back, or wants to seem agreeable. This forgettable man, Byron, brings up boringass Lex, and then acts like, "oopsie, i gotta brb" and then "forgetting what the convo was about." and when Destiny just spews random Destiny things, Byron says, "I gotta give you your flowers Destiny. Master, debater." okay, guy. We get it, you're a fan.
Then this Byron guy claims English is his second language , and when asked to speak French since it's his first language, Byron damn near quotes a popular part in Labelle's "Lady marmalade." Then back tracking and says, "I moved here when I was 5" when Destiny laughs and asks if he did two or three years of French in school. I'm so fucking embarrassed for this fan, lmaooooooooooooo.