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Meke Video (Radeon 780M) vs GTX 1650 Comparison Video Plz bro
Why the thumbnail title is 870m ?
For everyone watching the IGPU test starts at 5:30!! Dont get tripped up, the first half is comparing the cpu power of the 8700g to the 7800x3d using a 4090.
Thank you so much
I was not paying attention to this and I got really confused when the older "iGPU" was performing better than the new "iGPU" HueHueHue
this is battle against iGPUs.
5700G is better than 7800X3D when it comes to that.
But in CPU power 7800X3D is better than those G editions when paired to a dGPU
@@eliezerortizlevante1122 the 7800x3d is not built to have a igpu, like the 5600g is but add a gpu card and you can see the difference.
@@turboimport95if I have to wait three more weeks until I can get the GPU I want I can just run my 7800x3d on the igpu right? What do you mean it's not built for it?
@@Strang3Mage yeah the x3d has onboard video. So you can use that until you get a card
The 780M is a really good iGPU, but the CPU is too expensive. I would love to see this on a lower core count CPU
I agree wholeheartedly, at a price point of around 160 it would make more sense. Now I see many options for the 8700g price, option which have a decent processor and a decent gpu in them.
A CPU with 4 or 6 powerful cores is still quite enough for gaming. The 8-cores in the 8700g seem overdoing it and it ramps up the price.
yeah definitely, however it should be noted the 5700g launched for 360 USD so atleast AMD didnt price hike or keep it the same.
@@RainSandAndFlowers 4nm chips are expensive to produce
Yes its so overpriced that even half the price would be too much
@@Definedd Back then the graphic cards was stupid expensive so they had an excuse for it.... theres no excuse this time. Back then you could NOT find a cpu + gpu combo that was better than the 5700G for the same price, but now you can do that to the 8700G. 330 dollars is laughable... it needs to be under 200 for sure
I must warn you, without recording the FPS is ~3% higher, this only applies to the igpu test
Why am I being warned? Am I about to get banned?
lol😂 @@user-wm3fc1sk1p
wow thats amazing performance for igpu
It is, but was expecting more... theres basically no performance increase over the laptop versions
@@xismxisti i heard that's a BIOS problem because AMD forgot to disable power capping on the 8700G and 8600G, so it behaves as if it was in a laptop. Should be fixed soon
@@nixxel2278 but it's like 100watt power consumption
@@nixxel2278"Should" is the key word.
it has 1050ti ish perf, which is very good indeed and enough to run any game
Not mention that with 780M you can doble FPS with frame generation (FSR3 & AFMF) what a powerfull igpu
If you used afmf by yourself you would know that afmf is just Marketing. Those fps are just the fps number, its doesnt feel like the double of it, more like half of it.. extremly delayed also.. maybe just buggy or something but for me it didnt work well.
@@hort_clarenseget out of here before i clap your cheeks
@@hort_clarensebecause it increases input lag and frametime. . . And that's an extremely new tech. So they will fix it. But yeah AFMF is only good if you want to see 400 fps on your monitor
Great video. Please make another one with 4070 or 4070ti or 7800xt @ 1440p.
Remember Guys, 8700G is limited to PCIE 4.0, and has ONLY 8 lanes for the dedicated GPU (PCIE 8x, which is the same as a PCIE 3.0 16X). This also shows how much loss you have putting a 4090 in PCIE 3.0, and why 4.0 still have some space for dGPU peformance
it have total x20 lanes like intel normal skus.. then how?
Well to compensate that GPU usage loss with the 4090, don't go for such power hungry GPUs, go for the 4060Ti or 4070 or 4070 Super. That way you have higher GPU usage which means stable / even FPS.
PCEIE 3.0 VS 4 makes very little difference in gaming performance
@@miraridNot always true, depends on the game, the GPU and lane count. From PCIe 4.0 x8 to 3.0 x8 there's not much difference, but drop it to 3.0 x4 and the performance hit is significant.
I was talking about PCIE 3 VS 4 specifically (at x16) - wasn't considering x4 or x8 as just those lanes alone would squash performance @@offspringfan89
Is the consumption of 8700g really that bad? Just watched some comparison of 5700g and it was using significantly less power than non G 5000 variants.
If the igpu is not too expensive it can definitely help people on low budget and not being too far a way from a 7800x3d i mean the 7800x3d is still much more powerful but you know it will be able to push frame and not break the bank if it priced right 80-90 fps is absolutely acceptable
Edit : Sorry for My Bad English
What makes the difference in this comparison is the 7800X3d's cash memory. This can be clearly seen in the Microsoft Flight simulator test when a difference of 59 percent occurred. In Hogarts legacy there was a difference of 30 percent. It is worth remembering that this processor has 16 MB of cash memory.
Thanks for uploading so quick, I just bought an amd ryzen 7 7800X3D and I worried a bit. Still very impressing this iGPU.
7800x3d has a trash igpu
the 3d cache actually makes the igpu faster 2 times
@@sownlengoc damn, I wonder how that can be
@@timefortimme9887 that can be the future of Playstation and Xbox series
Yeah i hated when 7800X3D iGPU was horribly nerfed after 5700G where made me skip it.
If you dont like owning GPUs buy the G editions.
We are on DDR5 and later in 2 years we will have DDR6 or CAM3 RAMs
DDR6 will handle games just fine with no blocky GPUs.
Can't you do 1440P tests to see the difference between the CPU side of the 8700G vs 7800X3D. I know that will be more of a GPU benchmark but it will close the deal for people who'd want to buy a 4080++ graphics card in the future as an upgrade path buying the 8700G and want to play on higher resolution.
i was wondering if it is possible to do the afmf test for the this cpu and 4090 this time like how you did it with an amd gpu for the fun of it, i always wonder how much boost it can get so it would be great if you can showcase it
8700g might sound expensive, being around $300, but for budget builds it's excellent as budget graphics cards like RTX 4060 start around $300.
These igpu are better than some discrete graphics card it's amazing
Didn't expect the APU will usee more power than MCM under gaming load
We wish comparison 8700g vs 7600 with Rx6800xt/7800xt plz
Please do a test run with the Ryzen 5 5600Gt
7800x3d is a monster 🔥🔥🔥
Ryzen 7 5700x3d vs 5800x3d pls
CPU Concept: Ryzen 7 8700GX3D or G3D or whatever, it has the same iGPU but has 3D VCache for better than R7 7700X performance in the future. And as a plus, you got a more efficient APU than non 3D. It won't happen though.
Dude do your research on 3D VCache and on why the G processors have halved L3 cache.
You say it won't happen but don't seem to know why it won't happen as you wouldn't have posted that comment if you did.
@@plowo3021 Oh, I forgot about that, but it's just my idea. AMD could probably fit it, probably by using smaller Zen 4C cores. If they want, they could.
cpu will blow up lol
Long story short:
8700g it's better if you don't have a dedicated GPU.
Any games are playable/barely playable at 1080 low.
HONEST ADVICE: wait till September/November '24 when the new generation of Amd strix chips will be released, the iGPU 980m can finally play at 1080 low/mid with decent Fps and let you save the money of a Gpu
Why don't AMD make r7 8700gx3d too?
Can someone explain , does it really give that much fps without graphics card
its very low preset :)))
6:42 the entire second half of the video is a test of integrated graphics without 4090
Процессор только ради встройки для мини пк. Как проц+видюха он бесполезен
The processor is just for the sake of being built into a mini PC. As a processor + video card it is useless
ну его для этого и создали. довольно хороший уровень, для повседневных задач самый раз.
Не у всех же по карману купить проц + видеокарта по цене целого системного блока. Поэтому встройка спасает ситуацию. Можно купить новый комп без видеокарты (или без дискретки) и пользоваться. А потом постепенно накопить деньги на новую мощную видеокарту. А то одна хорошая видеокарта стоит, как второй системный блок. Цена ненормальная. Встройка послужит, как запасная видеокарта, если дискретка внезапно сдохла.
@@user-stanrbm вы вобще в курсе сколько стоит 8700G? За его цену можно взять 7500f, плату и комплект 2*16ГБ. А если брать в расчёт стоимость всей платформы, то за цену 8700G+плата,+ОЗУ вы получите 7500f+плата+ОЗУ+дискретка мощнее встройки 8700G. Этот камень имеет смысл только в mini-itx сборках, где дискретка может не влезать. Ну и конечно же корпоративные системники в сборе, от всяких HP, DELL, Lenovo и т.п.
Про сборку под апгрейд, очевидно 7500f лидирует. В будущем можно будет легко слить его на лохито не потеряв много шекелей на амортизации и поставить Ряженку 9ххх. А 8700G сильно потеряет в цене на б/у. При этом ещё и карту нужно будет сразу докупать, т.к. продавая 8700G вы одновременно лишаетесь графики. Логика поэтапного апгрейда просто в трубу.
@@rrt56 Вы хорошо читали мой коммент? Всё прочитал? "Сначала цену посмотри на озоне под 40тр!" Щас бы покупать видеокарты в Озоне, Вайлдберрисе, Авито...
@@rrt56 "озон как ориентир цены" Гарантия у Озона, как в DNS и Ситилинке, есть? Вы похоже меня не поняли, либо невнимательно читали мой коммент. Прочитайте ещё раз: "Можно купить новый комп без видеокарты (или без дискретки) и пользоваться. А потом постепенно накопить деньги на новую мощную видеокарту.", а потом "Встройка послужит, как запасная видеокарта, если дискретка внезапно сдохла." Поэтому брать APU (гибрид процессора и видеокарты) имеет смысл. Мой компьютер имеет APU - AMD Ryzen 7 5700G и дискретка AMD Radeon RX 570 8 Гб. Если вдруг моя дискретка внезапно перестала работать, то я вынужден перейти на встройку, как запасной вариант. Если бы чистый CPU без встройки, а дискретка сдохла. Что вы будете делать? Компьютер не работает без дискретки, а процессор без встройки. Бегать у кого-то просить видеокарту на время? Ну такое себе... Ну для тех кто очень богатый, то пускай покупают полноценный CPU без встройки и мощную дискретку GPU. Для богачей не проблема, если внезапно сдохнет дискретка и сразу купит новый. Можно и такой вариант. Иметь чистый CPU и пару дискреток. Одна пользуется, а вторая лежит, как запасная. Ну на это уйдёт очень много денег.
r7 8700G is an excellent processor till date, more than enough raw cpu power, dedicated ai engine, efficient, as strong as gtx 1060 3gb rx 780m gpu with native ray tracing,dx12_2 feature lvl, rsr, afmf support, which will prolong its lifespan much more that previous apus,
the only cons is it's cache memory and only pcie 4.0 support which is a not deal breaker if it comes within a reasonable price
I would like to see R7 8700G vs R5 5600 vs R5 7600 since 8700G still sucked at 16MB cache.
What is cache for??
@@hellspawnx3526gaming. That's why no intel can beat the 7800X3D that has 96Mb L3 cache. 7950X3D has 128Mb L3 cache. But that 128Mb works on 6cores out of 16 whereas the 7800X3D has 8 cores and the 96Mb cache works on those 8 cores and not 6. And for gaming 8 cores is the Best.
This iGPU is surprisingly amazing!
You misspell the thumbnail. It should be 780M
200w gpu power? i must be out of my mind for letting that into my electric bill
If we assume that you draw 200W for 5 hours every single day, that's 1KW per day. Times 30 days, in my country it amounts to $2.5 monthly, and $30 annually. Where do you live that your electricity is such a big concern?
@@ivangerginov5648the problem is theres another technology called rtx 4060 which only draw like 100w higher or less with much better performance compared to this igpu technology, with this kind of igpu performance and that much power drawing its not really power efficient piece of technology but i get the idea of the compactness of the dimension size of that igpu
Not saying the 8700g in itself is shitty, but the pricepoint, which can vary from 320 to 400 euros, depending on where you are located, is bad and will drive away many buyers, due to the fact that with that money you get a proper cpu and gpu combo.
Za kilka generacji te najtańsze karty graficzne całkowicie znikną z rynku układy APU je zastąpią pozdrawiam
Ryzen 7 8700G (Radeon 780M) vs Ryzen 7 7800X3D (RDNA2) with RTX 4070 Super, CPU test only at 1440p.
Thumbnail is wrong, u wrote 870m XD instead of 780m
Awesome thank you
Is the 780m can still get good result even on lower end motherboard like msi b650m?
This 8700G processor is what you're going to put on an average card and not a top of the line one. At most a 4070TI.
Test Ryzen 7 5700x3D please
It would be more interesting if you have tested with a RX 7600 or RTX 4060. Because someone who buys a Ryzen 8700G wants to save some money on GPU to later on buy one.
Nice!
Cpu power 111W🤖
For context: my 12 core i7-12700K draws 158 watts max on Cinebench.
lower watts and slightly faster than rx580
The best apu amd made was the 2200G at 100 dollars it had 4 cores 8 vega compute units and matched the performance of the higher 2400G at 179 dollars after that amd just didnt put more graphics units in their lower core count chips
How is your gpu so cool even when playing cyberpunk mine is at 55 yours at 39
if 780M can get Fluid Motion feature on and add a 40 series RTX card, it will be a bonanza for game smoothness.
yeah but you wouldnt buy the 8700G if you have a gpu
@@Defineddwhy not?
@@user-mk3mh5zd3k because you can get a combo like a ryzen 5 5600 + b550m and 16gb ram with an rx 6600 for similar price. the 8700g is probably on par with something like a r5 7600 in cpu performance which is 130 cheaper
Wow, the 780M is crazy good for an IGPU. It would be cool if this were in the 7800x3d.
It totally sucks. On my 8700K in FULL hd with a 3080 ti, with the same settings in CP 2077, I get almost 160 FPS. Why is Intel being tested in 4K, and this is a misunderstanding from AMD in 1080p?
very powerful igpu
Нихуя себе, это реально нихуя себе, Амд красавцы в этом плане.
I dont get it. There 's a 4090 in the system and it's not running at full power. What's the point of this test?
To test the CPU. And the best way to test CPU is in low resolutions, as Full HD.
skip to 5:30 this is onboard gpu test, the first half is showing you how the 8600g would run if you upgraded to a 4090.
I just ordered 8700G + X670E mobo + 64gb Ram + 1000W PSU and will upgrade to Ryzen 9 9950X or 9950X3D
P/s: After I ordered it, I found out 9000 series will come out in April. YEAH I’M AN IDIOT
Enjoy 35 fps.
@@donoturnback i only play esports titles so it’s would be more than 100 fps tho :)))
seems very overkill, you couldve gotten a 7600, b650 motherboard, 64gb ram and 750w psu and then gotten a GPU like a 6650xt which would be way better
@@Definedd like I said I’m an Idiot
@MG0301 You have not ordered plastic GeForce. So you are not a full idiot.
I cannot see any reason to use 8 series from this video
8 cores too many, someone buying this wants 6 core max and the same gpu cores on the 8700. basically a half way house between the 8700g and 8600g
a radeon 780M on a cheap quad core/hexa core will eat a lot of marketshare from intel and nvidia
If AMD lowers the price of this APU, the sales of other APUs will decrease and AMD will suffer a lot.
8700g vs 5700g 🤔
Radeon rx780 vs gtx 1630 and 1650
wow Starfield MC runs as in sick dream or under water even with good fps. Wtf or just my imagination
The 8700g is as close as you can get to console gaming
lol yeah true, the cpu is quite powerful it seems, good temporary solution to have it running while saving for other components
Which better ?
next please r5 7500f vs r5 8500g
r7 8700g igpu literally beats my rtx 3050 laptop gpu. giving more fps. wth is that igpu really good or my rtx 3050 has some bug?
bro there is a 4090 in there bro
@@Shahzad12357 lmao it trips people up watching this, the actual test starts at 5:30.
@labotomyman not with rtx 4090 without graphics card see.
Pls do a video of 8700g without graphics card
At 5:24 there is no graphics card installed (only the iGPU).
Why is writer rtx4090???? Wtf
There are no bad CPUs, only bad prices..
Thanks for the pubg benchmark
Amd Ryzen 8700G-igpu vs nvidia GTX 1650 and gtx 1660.
r5 8600g vs r5 7500f, please.
Now put it in the new ally 2.
I hope we eventually get a channel showing off the APUs with something like 7000mhz+ ram
everyone is showing lower ram when APUs get more performance from faster ram
• • • Ryzen 7 8700G (Radeon 780M) vs Ryzen 7 5700G (Vega 8) - CPU and iGPU Test • !? • !? • !? • !? • • •
8700G is closer to 5800X than to a 7700X.. let alone a 7800X3D... it was the same with 5700G being closer to 3700x than to 5700x
and it will be like that until they give full cache
Thumbnail is wrong info its 780m sorry for my saltiness
8700g очень хорош, он уменьшает нагрузку на всю систему.
Ya basta con los test en 1080p díos,
I couldn't understand R7 8700G with 4090 gives lower frame than R7 7800X3D with 4090!!
because the 7800x3d has extra cache that allows faster memory usage. 8700g is just standard cpu.
It has something to do with PCIE lane access. The R7 8700g has access to x8 while the R7 7800x3D has x16.
It's much worse for the ryzen 5 8000, x4.
8700g vs ryzen 5 5500 pls
ясен пень что процессар с встриной графикой будет проигрывать процессору который специально сделан для игр
why 1080p?
Higher res, less difference.
Cool. 5700X3D test coming?
Horrible cpu
Much rather get a Intel arc a750 and a ryzen 5500 or a ryzen 5700x and a rx 6600
If you're ready to dig more in aliexpress or go used then a r5 3600 and a Rx 6700 xt is surely possible or a ryzen 7 3700x and a rx 6700
7800x3d doesnt need dedicated gpu??????
Nope, comes with one
Yes it needs one if you want to play games. Its a basic iGPU usable only for a home PC that's just meant for daily tasks but no gaming.
Bruh
There is 4090 in both of the rigs.
@@n.e.r.o2047 skip to 5:30 that is the Igpu test, first half is cpu comparisons.
today can people buy just cpu with igpu and game haha no powerdraw at all almost lol.
GTA 5 AVG 27 FPS🤣 Expensive for this kind of garbage!
R7 5800 vs R7 8700G vs R7 7700.
The main problem with this channel is that it does useless tests for me and for many other viewers, it's a mystery to me why they can't add the game Black Desert Online to the test.
Yeah 27 fps in gta5 bro what’s wrong with your tests
The iGPU RDNA 2 is way less powerful than the 780M. It explains the 27 fps only. Unfortunately it is what it is. I hope in the future the AMD engineers are be able to fit the powerful iGPUs in the hight end CPUs.
😮😮😮🎉🎉🎉🔥🔥🔥
7f/s starfield :u
Not too bad tbf
Wow...
4770k
is it possible to OC this thing to 3 GHz?
yes
I can easily get 3100 MHz, later I’ll make a video with overclocking
this igpu can
7 fps starfield,LoL
супер
el 8700g no bale la pena
LOL what a fake comparison
В СНГ стоимость 8700G 400$. За эту сумму можно взять 7500f, материнскую плату и комплект ОЗУ. Напоминаю, что 8700G ещё без платы и памяти. Если брать стоимость системы в сборе, то к 7500f вы докупите дискретку, которая будет шустрее встройки 8700G. При этом в будущем сможете проапгрейдить ПК сначала на 9ххх Ряженку, а после сменить дискретку. Также 7500f легко улетит на вторичном рынке с меньшими потерями вложений.
8700G больше потеряет на амортизации. А при продаже вам придётся сразу же делать апгрейд на 9ххх Райзен+докупать дискретку. Что ломает всю логику поэтапного апгрейда и повышает количество финансовых вложений.
Данный камень хорошо зайдёт в коммерческие сборки для офисов. Для дома есть смысл только в mini-itx сборках.
@@rrt56 в коммерции зайдёт отлично. Всякие готовые сборки по контракту от HP, DELL LENOVO и т.п. Для дома вещь бессмысленная. На АМ4 спорно собирать систему с нуля, ибо её пик это 5800x3d. Если уже есть на руках DDR4, то норм. А с нуля под будущий апгрейд 7500f лучший выбор.
che test falsi🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣