WWE's CURSED 10-Man Tag Team Match
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- Опубликовано: 9 июл 2024
- On a random episode on WWE Monday Night RAW in 2002, a 10-man tag team match took place that would drastically alter the careers for many of the participants involved, and the future of the company itself.
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Kevin Nash’s injury caused Triple H to turn heel, Shawn Michaels in ring comeback, Xpac’s release, and the NWO to be split indefinitely. That’s a lot.
I'm pretty sure Sean was the reason Sean was released. Showing up just in the knick of time for television is not exactly smiled upon.
Will always appreciate Tom’s terrific, talented, and tactful tackling of alliteration
Not to mention his amazing and awe-inspiring ability to actually articulate any alliterations artfully
I love this channel too, but I don't love the tiny picture-in-picture thing he's doing here.
So the moral of the story, as always, is Disco Inferno ruins everything. A tale as old as time.
5 million viewers watched him every week. How many watch your overrated indie darlings?
@@razorramon7573 And where'd that get him afterwards? History remembers him as a complete joke. If you still like him then all power to you, but getting offended on his behalf over this is weird, you're weird.
@@razorramon7573 Absolutely no one tuned into Nitro or Thunder to watch Disco. He's never drawn any money in wrestling.
That crap with that plastic duck was pretty hilarious .
@@razorramon7573That’s the equivalent of me attributing RAW’s 8.1 rating (05/10/99) to Pete Gas. If you’re going to desperately hold onto the 90’s nostalgia at least pick someone worth a damn.
Ah yes, since they wanted to build Raw around Nash and make him look like the biggest badass of all time, it makes extra sense for them not to wait to actually be back in wrestling shape and instead rush the storyline through the door right after he came back from a long-term injury. Bravo, Vince!
But yet and we don't mean to sound heartless but it was a kind of a good thing for Nash to get injured. Because we would not have that resurgence of Shawn Michaels coming back in 2002.
@@attiepollard7847 shit and Nash went on to have a pretty good career in tna as well thanks to this
Triple H actually made a good point about the Cena/Vince thing. If you're waiting for the pay-off of seeing Hogan get his hands on Vince and you have someone else come in and get physical with him, it kind of undermines it a little bit.
Especially a rookie on his second week of television. There's plenty of authority figures and big names you could have him do this to. Hell, you could've had him slap Shawn Michaels and insert John into the 10 man tag and spin that off into John beating X-Pac & Big Show before losing to Nash ahead of Nash-Triple H, or even given John a lucky win over Nash by having Triple H bash him in the head with a sledgehammer to build their feud.
You don't interfere with the Hogan-Vince story, you keep RVD out of a squash match, you have John slapping one of the most controversial and powerful people in the company in Shawn Michaels, the NWO beats down John in that 10 man tag (provided Nash & X-Pac don't end up in their unfortunate circumstances).
John gets to work with one of the most stable hands in the company in X-Pac. X-Pac gets a decent story that might keep him in the company. John gets to FU Big Show on a big PPV. Nash gets his feud with Trips. AND Nash/Trips put over John by giving John possibly the only win anyone gets over Nash before he faces Triple H, leaving Nash pissed and Triple H looking like a big time babyface.
Also squashes any idea that the Kliq are in it for themselves as this is no longer just Nash running through the roster to put over Triple H since John gets the first pinfall before Triple H conquers him. You also then maybe set up for a post-Cena/Nash feud once he loses to Triple H. And if Cena wins that, you set Cena up for a mini-story with Triple H where the cocky rap prick Cena turns his arrogance over to Triple H because he just proved he can still beat Nash without Triple H's help, which means he's on the level of the World Champion. Which means he should be next in line for Trips belt.
Triple H can beat him cuz he's still a rookie, Cena can go for a handshake as a sign of respect and Triple H can either take it and settle the beef, or blow him off, laying the seeds for a potential heel turn on Shawn Michaels. Wrestling really isn't that hard to book to be honest.
@@xEmpress95kid, you got moxy. But can you make Hector come out of an egg?
@@ComaAlpha Some stories are just not meant to be told. And honestly I'm not familiar enough with the landscape of wrestling back then to build any consistent and beneficial narratives for the talent at the time. That said, maybe you could work the egg/chicken scenario into a Godly Ascension kind of gimmick, tie it back into Egyptian mythology, or to Garuda from Hinduism or Quetzacoatl from the Aztec or one of the Mesopotamian bird dieties. Give him a proper lucha libre mask/bird design rather than making him a literal chicken, and have the story be that he was delivered to us as a God of Lucha Libre. Quetzalcoatl will probably work best since the God is part of the Mexican pantheon. And you could then actually push Hector as a real talent with a cool as entrance & outfit all from him hatching from a goddamn bird egg at Survivor Series.
@@xEmpress95 treating it with the perfect blend of seriousness and silliness that this deserves. You just put a big smile on my face.
@@xEmpress95Yeah it is, it actually involves being on your feet and having meetings with people then being your feet going to other meetings. If you were booking wrestling, everybody else would do all the work and just give you reports then you'd make decisions and tell them to do your bidding. Literally you'd be sitting back while everyone did the work, like you're playing a computer game, which no doubt made you feel at home with this kind of mentality.
Come on! I know Nash is 7 feet, but every hospital has knee braces readily available. It didn't have to be custom, but it would've worked for 1 night.
No the braces you wear are athletic braces, not just some brace for your knee. Athletic ones are custom and not cheap and you are supposed to wear them to protect your opposite leg as well as the injured one.
He did the Wolfpac howl when he tore the quad
Obnoxious fans like you are why I hate wrestling.
Shawn Michaels is such a master
Tom campbell is pretty good on wrestling commentary, this was hilarious
The year of 2002 is a very mixed bag in wwe. From WWE having to change their name from WWF (f*** you World wildlife foundation), Stone Cold Steve Austin walking out to wrestlers not being happy with creative story lines and being told by the backstage veterans if they're not happy then go someplace else to the resurgence of Shawn Michaels coming back and started off a new story career.
This was also the same Raw that had the infamous Bradshaw/Trish vs. Chris Nowinski/Jackie Gayda match. Just a tough night all around. Also, the week before was the Undertaker/Jeff Hardy ladder match.
Crazy to think how close together many of these famous and infamous events occured, and how quickly the quality could shift from an all-time classic to a dumpster fire.
CLIMB THE LADDER, KID! MAKE YOURSELF FAMOUS!
0:28 Decagonal Dispute! New band name!
1:47 Black and White Shite! New band name!
That brand name thing really pissed all of us off and maybe was the reason that a good chunk of us did not want to look at WWF to now WWE anymore because to tell you the truth we really felt like something was not right with professional wrestling and also a lot of us started to have attention elsewhere like mixed martial arts like the NFL like the NBA that was getting good.
🤣🤣I forgot hbk was in nwo for what was the reason.🤔
That was the dumbest thing ever. He never got and he tried too hard. He sweet chin musiced Booker T out of the NWO lol.
I mean the whole nwo thing was wwf guys invading wcw which was a ripoff from japan and then you had a whoooooooole bunch of things happen including nwo japan for i forget why so it even spun back thataways and then wwf bought wcw and oh what a mess.
Honestly, it sucks for Nash biut the product was probably better that summer. The NWO was completely directionless by this point. Michaels would have eventually made his comeback and his match with HHH that year was much better than whatever would have happened with Nash (at least judging by the match they did have the next year.)The Reign of Terror was most likely always going to happen, as HHH was moving over to Raw to fued with the NWO and once that was over, his backstage power would have worked out the same.
True. Now I got to admit I was not looking at WWE during that summertime because other things was captured my attention as an 18 year old but that SummerSlam along with the fall of 2002 what's a good first half for WWE.
Love these segments and countdowns you guys have. Appreciate it.
For some reason I thought this was a top 10 video.
X pac not knowing how we got to a hospital in Philadelphia is wild to me
Either that was a mild concussion that he had or he was high on drugs
@@attiepollard7847Our city of 'Brotherly Love' has SEVERAL hospitals, some being top in the USA when it comes to doctors, surgery, diagnosis, & research. Definitely twacked out of his mind!
I love how they declared the nWo was over and the next week started a fresh new nWo-less direction with……Eric Bischoff
To play DA, this was a different Bischoff and he killed that part.
2002 was so damn weird, man.
Yep
It was a weird year but if you're between the age of maybe 16 to 21 during this time maybe us as people was changing and we did not want to look at WWE that much.
So this is where the nashes Quads constantly going meme comes from?
The best thing to come out it was the hunter hbk storyline, and that match at summerslam, where we found out that not only didn't shawn still have a lot left in the tank but he hadn't lost a step he was still the showstopper, the main event, the icon and mr wrestlemania
I hate to say it and I don't want to sound bad but maybe Kevin Nash getting injured was a good thing
It's funny b/c this was just before I started watching (the Las Vegas Monday Night raw with TLC4 a couple months later) but the landscape of wrestling had changed so much between then and now. I'm pretty sure Shut Your Mouth which came out later in the year was baked into the Kevin Nash/NWO version of the brand split so I remember playing it and being confused about so many guys and factions being different to what i was seeing on TV in late 2002.
2002 was a very mixed bag. WWE with chains from WWF, Steve Austin leaving, wrestlers not being happy also being told by the veterans that if you don't want to be here then go someplace else and Shawn Michaels coming back and having a storyline career.
2002 was the weirdest year in WWE history. Like some gross Vince McMahon pneumonia fever dream.
To be honest I don't even think that's a man wanted this crap. Remember we had to change the damn name because of World wildlife foundation (f*** you panda bear) also they were wrestlers who did not want to be there because they were unhappy and the veterans in the back told them to go fault if they're not happy. Also I think the fan base themselves started to change because new things was popping up outside of WWE like mixed martial arts and the other four sports getting their stuff together too. But at least Shawn Michaels coming back did have some glimmer of good things.
It wasn’t the panda people, it was that barber that cut the whole F off
I understand this reference
What a weird time. I must have been pausing from wrestling during that time.
Thank you for covering this
God damn it, Disco Inferno.
I still remember when Vince came out to nwo music that Monday and I was so confused as a kid
It was a bashfully brutal bliss for Vince to mock what was his colorfully competent competition for many yellow yucky years.
I need to go back and rewatch the entire year of 2002.
😂😂😂”Ahhhh” -Kevin Nash
so..... Kevin Nash' quad gave us the absolutely classic Shawn Michaels comeback run of 2002!
"Entire 2 hour broadcast"
Boy, those were the days.
This was a great deep dive on this match
Triple H was booking WWE in 2002 lol. He was right about Hogan vs Vince being better than John Cena vs Vince though. It's so obvious that I have to question the intellect of those backstage complaining about it. And if We got John Cena vs Vince we don't get the feud with Kurt Angle and the Ruthless Aggression in ring promo.
Hall got Released due to the Infamous "Plane Ride From Hell" during the UK Tour (aka Insurrextion '02) 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️ That's Sad
Now I think Tom would have highlighted that. Also Nash would have highlighted that in his shoot interviews. So that was not the main reason
This is how you fix Sorviver Series.
1. Make it in October.
2. Make it mean something Royal.
3. Tradition is key but so is the entire heritage.
4. War games mainevent but simple.
1A. Late October to build to Rumble
2A. The Winner of the Iron Sorviver VS the champ.
3A. The 10man tag done superbrawl style have a battle like bowl to see who enters the 10 man elimation tag. Odds VS even
4A. Do as I said for the woman's division final two are wargames.
The Winners VS champs
Battle for the Series... winning team are the last 5 entrants to the Rumble. War games mainevent to blow off faction fueds
Thanks 🎉
this was a no win situation for everyone involved.
i usually dont side with the defecator. i can since his stance. he paid alot of money for the nwo. hall was a bust. hogan turned face. and nash had been injured for most of it. so when the time comes for him to be cleared. you put him in a match.
on the other hand, nash hasnt competed in a long time. he's going to have ring rust even in a ten man tag.
Xpac kicking Bubba in the face while Bubba checks on Nash 😂
You still got to sell the match also bubble should have found a different way to check on him Knowing damn well the camera can be around
Im watching this a day after watching Nash accuse CM Punk of spending too much time sitting home injured 🙄
This channel always reaches on things like this. 😅😂
That was weird, watching that match. You could just blame Vince, Nash wasn’t ready. I recall seeing Vince sh!t eating grin when he said the nWo angle was done.
I watched this episode live. It was....something.
It was a bashfully brutal bliss for Vince to mock what was his colorfully competent competition for many yellow yucky years.
Pause it at 10:26. Not gonna lie, I can see why they got mad at Big Show for being out of shape.
Proving once again that Disco Inferno never contributed anything
So, Disco's the cause of the Reign of Terror and HBK's comeback....I am so conflicted right now.
The reign of terror was going to happen no matter what
has Nash said if he was angry with Disco at all for not putting the knee brace in?
I am glad John Cena eclipsed triple h as the man. He wanted to badly to be the guy. When in actuality he is the other guy. He isn’t Austin, rock, cena, or even Shawn.
Yes but he was the heel whenever the situation called for it. The heel is as important as the face
@@zinniaq3020 I’m not denying that. But he did everything in his power to be the top guy. The face of the company. And he came up short every time.
That's why I laugh whenever I see WWE highlight packages or retrospective videos and they show all the guys you named and then show HHH. It always comes off so desperate. But as we all know, WWE loves their revisionist history.
@@rayedmonds6108 lol like dx being as important as nwo. When they were midcarders for a majority after Shawn retired.
well HHH admitted he was never the guy. but saw the need to be the top villain.
Did.....did the hamster thing happen to you, Tom? 🤨
Excellent 👌
I met Nash the day before at an autograph signing in Michigan
7:53 how is he gifted?
I try not to eat too much garbage but I will admit that I do love me some Beefaroni but as always that's just my opinion
Mmmmmm beefy! - Mick Foley
19:22 omg do you mean He-Man
Tom is the best
Wrestling Observer.😅😂
We can laugh at it all we want but hey at least they put the news out there. Now until someone can actually counter them with more dependable sources the wrestling observer is king of professional wrestling news
Wow great job Tom. I genuinely learned some stuff from this
KWAB
Does anyone else see some similarities between Kevin Nash(when he was in his prime) and Damian Priest?!
vince dead you ´re fired 0 dead 0 dead 0 dead 0 dead 0 dead 0
Damian Priest is just skinny Diesel, a monotone no draw.
Say his name and he appears
I believe in John Candy
I believe in John Candy
'Cause they love him in London, and Paris, and Tokyo
America, Scotland, and Canada, and Mexico, they say
I believe in John Candy
I believe in John Candy
Interesting content but the script you’re reading is god awful
Bots think that wwe was diverse and inclusive in 2002