'Fake electors': Can Mayes make charges stick? | Sunday Square Off

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  • Опубликовано: 28 апр 2024
  • Arizona Attorney General Kris Mayes obtained grand jury indictments against 18 people in the so-called "fake elector" scheme to overturn Joe Biden's victory in 2020. Can Mayes' prosecutors make the charges stick in court? What's the best defense for the accused? Former federal prosecutor Mark Kokanovich and attorney Tom Ryan break it down.

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  • @ryanreedgibson
    @ryanreedgibson 16 дней назад +22

    We watched this unfold. I am so proud of the State of Arizona! What the right did to Rusty Bowers is inexcusable.

  • @veryoldjohnson
    @veryoldjohnson 16 дней назад +20

    Next, Arizona needs to kick Agent Orange off of their Presidential Ballot!!!

  • @EMendonca-mp2mf
    @EMendonca-mp2mf 16 дней назад +17

    How many lives has trump ruined? Wow!

  • @gwenwilliams3594
    @gwenwilliams3594 14 дней назад +9

    Excellent evaluation of the crimes and criminals involved. No body should get away with attempting to overturn an election.

  • @frederickfernandez787
    @frederickfernandez787 13 дней назад +4

    These righteous women are heroes for protecting democracy. God bless Arizona and Colorado🙏❤👍

  • @Abogadoarizona
    @Abogadoarizona 16 дней назад +17

    Mayes is fantastic. If she is pressing charges, I am confident in prosecutors chances.

  • @mwatts6755
    @mwatts6755 16 дней назад +34

    This should be a much bigger deal than how it’s been treated. Shouldn’t they be in HUGE trouble? Imagine if Dems did this? The GOP would riot (again). I don’t get it

    • @frankietyree1953
      @frankietyree1953 16 дней назад

      Democrats do do it! They are dirty on both sides! Like trying to make you think bribery is okay😢

    • @jts9120
      @jts9120 16 дней назад +2

      Riot? Like BLM or antifa?

    • @bonnieoakes3835
      @bonnieoakes3835 16 дней назад

      You mean the far-right instigator dressed in black to "appear Antifa" who was filmed and we watched smash rows of business windows? George Floyd's televised murder caught the whole world and ignited a movement against police brutality and racism in police ranks. Not the same as Bubba driving his flag-laden pickup to DC with his hunting gear at the ready to beat Capitol police and build a gallows for our Republican Vice President 👈

    • @LORDAKIRA818
      @LORDAKIRA818 16 дней назад +1

      @@jts9120more like orange worshipers violently attacking the capitol.

    • @firstgopinbredhillbilliesl6100
      @firstgopinbredhillbilliesl6100 16 дней назад +6

      riot like j6?

  • @marilyn8490
    @marilyn8490 16 дней назад +26

    Thank you for covering this important indictment.

  • @scottdavis3571
    @scottdavis3571 16 дней назад +24

    At this point, if you still support Trump, than I see you as complicit.

    • @ryanreedgibson
      @ryanreedgibson 16 дней назад +6

      Most of their supporters were complicit. We all watched it unfold.

    • @mollyhackman4910
      @mollyhackman4910 10 дней назад

      I am voting of Trump because I don't think Biden is good for our country. If I had a better choice I would take it. We are living in a dangerous time red hates blue and blue hates red. We are divided and divided we fall. God bless America we need it.

  • @JonyRotten
    @JonyRotten 16 дней назад +13

    Kelli Ward does not deserve any type of deal.

  • @shirleyandrews1152
    @shirleyandrews1152 14 дней назад +6

    How low can the Repubs go⁉️ This was very good coverage. Thank you‼️

  • @montekitchens
    @montekitchens 16 дней назад +21

    Kelli Ward in an orange jumpsuit, "Who stole my cornbread!" 🤣

    • @sarchizm
      @sarchizm 16 дней назад +3

      She'll lead the orange mafia in prison!

    • @elfritts9895
      @elfritts9895 16 дней назад +2

      Didn't she say she's a proud orange Mafia member?? 😂

    • @elfritts9895
      @elfritts9895 16 дней назад +2

      Sorry folks there's another trump witch hunt this time it's trump hunting the witch that cursed him with all those stolen documents 😅

  • @JonyRotten
    @JonyRotten 16 дней назад +20

    I'm very happy I voted for Kris Mayes. These people tried to nullify this veteran's vote and Ill be damned if I'll let that happen without someone paying a price. Thank you Kris Mayes

  • @Ghostshadow714
    @Ghostshadow714 16 дней назад +24

    When this is all said and done. Trump will make Nixon look like a girl scout 😂

  • @nomenclature9373
    @nomenclature9373 16 дней назад +22

    On the plus side, they are making bail companies great again. 😁

  • @Padq
    @Padq 14 дней назад +4

    Nothing like people that DON’T know election laws running elections

  • @t47328
    @t47328 16 дней назад +9

    Isn't one of these people the Election Integrity for the RNC? If so. I assume they have resigned from their position?

    • @matzrat5006
      @matzrat5006 15 дней назад

      Nope, they think they did nothing wrong, Felony's are for the little people.

  • @IGNANT4LIFE
    @IGNANT4LIFE 16 дней назад +6

    thank you 12 News...you all do a good job putting the facts together in a succinct and digestible format but still enough detail to show the audience rather than tell them what the evidence is.

  • @Jorge-mg7or
    @Jorge-mg7or 16 дней назад +16

    Thank you Kris. You're doing fine.

  • @gregkotyk3445
    @gregkotyk3445 16 дней назад +18

    Jail for traitors

    • @user-wg6fw4ou1b
      @user-wg6fw4ou1b 16 дней назад +2

      Unfortunately the real traitors are the ones who brought these charges.

    • @shermanderek2
      @shermanderek2 16 дней назад +1

      @@user-wg6fw4ou1b Don't drop the soap, Donald

    • @ryanreedgibson
      @ryanreedgibson 16 дней назад +3

      @@user-wg6fw4ou1b No, they're not.

  • @4dogs999
    @4dogs999 11 дней назад +3

    We are with Free and fair elections and we are with you in this investigation. It is taking forever to get any accountability for those who tried to remain in power and overthrow the will of the people. This must happen before November we must have charges and vertex before November

  • @marketads1
    @marketads1 12 дней назад +2

    This is historic! It’s like watching Dragnet bring down THE MOB!

  • @GivePeaceAChance12
    @GivePeaceAChance12 14 дней назад +3

    Great reporting!!!¡
    Makes me angry when the gqp whine about woke and feelings etc and yet they try to use their feelings and thoughts as legal defenses!!!!

  • @aikanae1
    @aikanae1 16 дней назад +7

    Thx for explaining. Does Az allow felons to run for office?

    • @jts9120
      @jts9120 16 дней назад

      Ask Katie hobbs

    • @aikanae1
      @aikanae1 16 дней назад +3

      @@jts9120 that's hilarious 😂 thx for the laugh.

    • @jts9120
      @jts9120 16 дней назад

      @@aikanae1 You're welcome 😊

  • @edwardpoe7323
    @edwardpoe7323 14 дней назад +3

    This is easy to prove the indictment is almost a conviction with the way the law is written and the evidence required to show cause.

  • @stevejennette25
    @stevejennette25 15 дней назад +1

    And....a Lebowski quote is icing on the cake! 😎

  • @stevevanscoik398
    @stevevanscoik398 13 дней назад +1

    Love the Big Lebowski reference.

  • @kesa7669
    @kesa7669 16 дней назад +2

    Hoffman has a lot more hair now vs 2 years ago. LOL!

  • @barrybazanac7404
    @barrybazanac7404 8 дней назад

    Don ‘t do the crime and you have nothing to worry about.

  • @andersbaggesgaard4492
    @andersbaggesgaard4492 16 дней назад +22

    Please vote all democrats 2024

    • @njosephg
      @njosephg 16 дней назад +5

      Vote the Democrats out!

    • @jts9120
      @jts9120 16 дней назад

      F no!

    • @njosephg
      @njosephg 16 дней назад

      @@jts9120 Why you don't like America? You like living under more government control, insane woke laws? Just look at California.

    • @user-wg6fw4ou1b
      @user-wg6fw4ou1b 16 дней назад +1

      God forbid!

    • @min2oly
      @min2oly 16 дней назад +5

      💙💙💙

  • @veryoldjohnson
    @veryoldjohnson 16 дней назад +2

    Comments blocked!!!

    • @ryanreedgibson
      @ryanreedgibson 16 дней назад +4

      Wow, but you can still post that comment. Get over yourself.

    • @veryoldjohnson
      @veryoldjohnson 16 дней назад +1

      @@ryanreedgibson :
      How about that!!!!

    • @owenbowen1090
      @owenbowen1090 14 дней назад +1

      Huh?

  • @ryansauchuk7290
    @ryansauchuk7290 16 дней назад

    Quick summery: the answer is no

  • @jts9120
    @jts9120 16 дней назад +4

    Innocent until proven guilty.

    • @aikanae1
      @aikanae1 16 дней назад +7

      "There's a difference between innocent until proven guilty and actual innocence."

    • @jts9120
      @jts9120 16 дней назад

      @@aikanae1

    • @ernestclary6035
      @ernestclary6035 16 дней назад +6

      I believe they filmed themselves

    • @michaelhayes7469
      @michaelhayes7469 16 дней назад +4

      Have you ever chanted 'Lock Her Up'???

  • @user-wg6fw4ou1b
    @user-wg6fw4ou1b 16 дней назад +5

    Weaponizing the law has come to Arizona, this is a disaster for our state.

    • @sakcee
      @sakcee 16 дней назад +1

      shut up ccp bot

    • @M.J.212
      @M.J.212 16 дней назад +3

      The Narrative Fallacy (also, the Fable; the Poster Child) The ancient fallacy of persuasion by telling a "heartwarming" or horrifying story or fable, particularly to less-educated or uncritical audiences who are less likely to grasp purely logical arguments or general principles.
      Reductionism: (also, Oversimplifying, Sloganeering): The fallacy of deceiving an audience by giving simple answers or bumper-sticker slogans in response to complex questions, especially when appealing to less educated or unsophisticated audiences.
      The Big Brain/Little Brain Fallacy (also, the Führerprinzip; Mad Leader Disease): A not-uncommon but extreme example of the Blind Loyalty Fallacy below, in which a tyrannical boss, military commander, or religious or✳️ cult-leader tells followers "Don't think with your little brains (the brain in your head), but with your BIG brain (mine)."

    • @kesa7669
      @kesa7669 16 дней назад +1

      This is wonderful. Accountability for all criminals trying to insert fake electors. TRUMP TRASH are the only ones upset about this.

    • @aikanae1
      @aikanae1 16 дней назад +2

      That's exactly what they did by presenting themselves as fraudulent electors when they knew better. Don't do the crime if you don't want to do the time. They took a group photo and posted videos. They asked private attys if this was treason and did it anyway.

    • @gilamnstr123
      @gilamnstr123 16 дней назад +1

      Whine whine whine! Bet you call yourself a constitutionalist. How do they get indicted? You don't understand the grand jury process. Go cry yourself to sleep now or send all your money trump!

  • @QuietAZdesert
    @QuietAZdesert 16 дней назад +3

    Channel 12 still seems like a baby-CNN...

    • @ernestclary6035
      @ernestclary6035 16 дней назад +5

      You prefer news to be hidden

    • @QuietAZdesert
      @QuietAZdesert 16 дней назад

      @@ernestclary6035
      I prefer it to be less bias.

    • @michaelhayes7469
      @michaelhayes7469 16 дней назад +2

      ​@QuietAZdesert, how is it biased?

    • @QuietAZdesert
      @QuietAZdesert 16 дней назад +1

      @@michaelhayes7469
      If your an adult, and not an idiot, all you have to do is listen a short time to figure that out.

    • @michaelhayes7469
      @michaelhayes7469 16 дней назад +4

      @@QuietAZdesert it was a simply recount of events.

  • @elfritts9895
    @elfritts9895 16 дней назад +4

    If she only had video evidence and maybe a paper trail she just might get a conviction