I find it really funny that MatPat and Steph don't realize that the group that made the Henry Stickmin collection also made Among Us. Its fun to think about.
@@lindahamilton2996 he said in another video that the lore just kinda explains itself through the gameplay and he cant really make a video other than a timeline of HSC
Theory: henry stares at the teleporter then breaks it like he knows it won't work, does this mean that he is aware of his past lives and deaths?? Why else would he be so mad at the teleporter?
Actually a RUclipsr I watch called Captainsauce pointed out that he knows about it. In every game after the first when he uses the teleporter Henry slowly becomes more and more on edge about using it till he finally snaps in Completing the Mission and breaks it. He remembers every time he uses the teleporter
Also there's the potential of Henry experiencing how bad it is to use it during the sneak ending in Stealing the diamond; that would probably be enough. And I think it might also happen in the prison places without it failing as well but oof. Also apparently the fails in the intro might've all been cannon [which would include the Teleporter] according to the wiki unlike every other fail due to the doctor's report in Escape the Prison saying that he had "Bruises and cuts" and "Quite the beating". [I think that's where they got that line from, anyway.]
Also in the secret ending the whole story is just a continues loops of henry's adventure after the last ending the secret one, the whole thing will go back to the beginning of escaping the prison. So maybe henry is really aware of all that happened in his life
We learned about the Titanic recently in school and had an essay on who was to blame for the sinking. (I blamed Harland and Wolff because they used cheaper, weaker rivets to save money so tgey didn't take the project seriously)
Hey Mat, if you’re playing this game in full screen, that’s probably the reason it keeps messing up - the Devs said that they didn’t make it an option, (so I don’t know how you’re playing in it, lol), because the game didn’t work well in it. Edit: Oh yeah, and the reason you keep seeing these Among Us references is because the games are made by the same people.
Here’s my theory MY GAME THEORY Henry can see in the future or something like that because he remembers all the fails if you watch all the teleporter fails you see that he remembers them all he gets more hesitant every time
Here is another one. He can time travel. Because in escape the prison, in the legal ending, Felix (Yes that is his name.) brings up a doctor's analysis. If he could see the future, why would he be beaten up?
Actually, it's all thanks to the power of his Stand, Reference. We've seen that Reference can send people to other timelines, so it's very likely that every time you fail, Reference swaps Henry to anoher line.
Hey MatPat, in Among Us you can give yourself a hat that Henry wears. Also when emptying the trash you will sometimes see the teleporter or the diamond. Another thing, the RUclipsr CaptainSauce notes that Henry remember that the teleporter has failed. So he has theorized that Henry remembers the fails.
Yeah and Among Us isn't actually a new game, it's been out for a couple years. While they were putting the references to Among Us in this chapter during development I doubt that Innersloth even knew how popular it was going to get 😅
@Dino Dare there is 3 people working on the company of “Innersloth.” This company published both Among us and Henry Stickmin remaster, but the original flash game was only made by puffballs. Puffballs is the only voice actor for Henry Stickmin OG and remaster. With an exception of Ellie, which is voiced by puffballs sister.
Actually every ending and fail is canon, because Henry looks at the teleported and knows that it never works, which means he must remeber every fail and ending
While every ending including fails are cannon, that changes with the multiverse imbalance ending, where all fails, including the ones with the teleporter, are deleted
I just noticed, the rocket fail: "You just lit a rocket. Rockets explode", is a reference to the first Toy Story movie when Buzz used the rocket to boost him and Woody to reach Andy's car. Very cool Puffballs, very cool
yeah and all the choices in that specific area is a reference to one of the creator's earliest games, "Crossing the Pit" if you didn't know i'll go now-
*OKAY THE APOLOGY, IN THE BEGINNING, IS HOW YOU ARE S U P P O S E D TO APOLOGIZE!* *-Acknowledge* *-A c t u a l l y a p o l o g i z e* *-Understand how it's wrong* *-THE END* *RUclips APOLOGIES: TAKE NOTES*
Im so happy they resolved the issue quickly before it got overblown. Even though it was never that big of a deal. I have nothing but love and respect for them!
Steph apologizing made me so genuinely happy. She was very earnest, very calm and collected. Matpat explaining how the roles were passed down from Jason to Chris to MirrorMatt was also very understandable, which was exactly what I thought was the case, to be honest. And the addition of MirrorMatt coming onto the team in such a weird time might’ve also been an issue, now that I think of it. The way they talked about it was pretty much perfect, I hope they’re all moving forward happily ^^ I’m just so happy Mat and Steph have addressed this in the way they did, very honestly and very to te point. I love my yt parents
Yes, Steph handled this amazingly! MatPat was a bit miffed that they had to apologize, but at least he still went with it. Glad they addressed the issue.
MatPat wasn’t “miffed” he just didn’t know what exactly he had to apologize for, because tbh they did absolutely nothing wrong and Mirror Mat just needs to learn how to address an envelope to avoid a roasting, it was all in good humor and Mirror Mat wasn’t even phased, y’all just misinterpreted the situation (at their core I know that Mat and Steph are genuinely kind people and wouldn’t want to intentionally harm another, it just sometimes they be lacking them social skills)
@@giosevilla6182 The vast majority of the commenters who voiced concerns also think of MatPat and Steph as genuinely kind people. That's why their interactions with Matt seemed so out of character. It's ok to criticize someone you like.
@@glittery_cucumber that's fair, I dont think he was upset they had to apologize though, I think it's more a situation where apologizing feels weird bc neither of the parties involved were actually hurt or in the wrong, it was just them and Matt joking around and people interpreted it as serious. In the end tho, no one was hurt and I think they addressed it well, just a simple misunderstanding between personalities on/behind the camera and the audience
The change of expresions on Mat's and Steph's face during the valiant hero ending is amazing! I found it incredible how this characters can make us feel more emotions than other characters in a lot of triple A games this days.
Among Us and Henry Stickmin were made by the same person. That's why there are so many references. I think that's why Among Us is so popular right now, because Henry Stickmin got more popular. (Also, those Among Us figures you've seen are collectables, like the paintings in Stealing The Diamond.)
And you don't know that It's puffballs united that make the henry stickmin games, Innersloth only publish it in Steam, and with some references to his game
You guys are literally the best for acknowledging the 'picking on Matt' situation in the beginning. I think a lot of us who have been fans for a little longer kinda realized that is was all meant in good humor because, like you, we had kinda grown to take on the joke of #BlameBehindTheCamera and didn't really think much of it. Good on those who pointed out that it went a little farther than what seemed to be comfortable, and I think its really awesome of team theorist to address it not only with us, but with Matt himself too. Its little things like that that make you guys one of the most respected RUclipsr teams out there.
ImJustVerable what situation are they talking about? i don’t watch all their streams and i’m confused on who matt is. i thought like jason was behind the camera and chris left because they had moved..?
@@ParadoxBrony @lindsey (Warning, this got a tad long, I'm sorry) As far as I'm aware Chris and Jason are still part of the team, however obviously when Matt and Steph moved, all of team theorist wasn't able to just pick up and go with them. So I think they help with editing and technical advice and stuff from the West Coast, but aren't there physically. Matt (or Mirror Matt as they call him, since having 2 Matt's gets confusing) is the guy they hired to take on Jason/Chris' job once they got to East Coast. He's a really quiet, but is a really solid addition to the team all around. I'm not sure how farmiliar you guys are with channel memes (since you said you haven't watched all their streams. I won't claim to have seen every single one either, but I've seen a good majority) but it's been sort of a running joke to, whenever anything minor goes wrong with the stream, poke fun at whoever is behind the camera and give them a (lovingly!) hard time about it. They did this with Mirror Matt a few streams back, and as they said, they didn't see their fault at the time, and a lot of us who understand the joke didn't either. A few very sympathetic and observant souls in the comments of that video pointed out that they seemed to take it a little far. In this video, those comments are what they've addressed. Like Steph explained, they knew Jason and Chris for a long time, so the jabs were all around enjoyed and unoffending, but because Mir. Matt just met them recently, it probably didn't come off the same way, thus they took time to sit down and actually apologize and explain to him the situation. Then, they cleared it up with us, apologizing for any discomfort/concern they caused in the community. From what I've seen throughout the years, not many youtubers would take the time to go to those lengths and admit to their mistakes, hence my "points to you guys" rant above.
ImJustVerable no worries! thank you for summarizing it. i do know the blame ______ joke but do you know which stream they poked fun at matt for? it’s fine if you don’t know i’m just curious
@@lindseynguyen2070 I believe it was their last Henry Stickmin stream? But I wouldn't quote me on that cause I've got the memory of an 80 year old goldfish, and I tend to binge multiple streams at once so they sorta blur
Yes, I'm very glad they adressed it because it did came off weird considering he just started his job and doesn't really know much about gaming livestreaming unlike Chris, Jason and Amy
Imagine that Henry Stickmin is stuck in a time loop where he can only move forward if you get the right answer and he remembers everything. Every death, every injury, every fail. It could explain why he's so skilled and went to a life of crime because it was the only correct answer as well as being something fun that would help him cope with dying over and over again and seeing his friends die due to his actions. Just something on my mind lmao
Love how they started to love Charles after they witnessed him sacrifice himself for ours (aka Henry's) and the world's safety instead of judging him for being stupid for all those times
I interpreted your interaction with Matt as that ribbing/banter that you'd often have with Chris and Jason, but I can understand why other people interpreted it differently. We had limited context and the dynamic is different because, as you said, Matt is newer. I'm really happy MatPat mentioned that he talked with Matt about it because that shows that he's concerned with his employees as people and it showed me that you guys weren't just playing "Damage Control". You were actually concerned with doing the right thing. So wholesome.
Yeah I thought the same thing. I never took it as Matt and Steph being actually mean to the new guy, it's something they're used to doing. And I get that other people might have interpreted it that way but I don't GET get it, anyone who's been watching these streams long enough to know their dynamic with their employees would know they'd never have malicious intent behind what they're saying.
MatPat and Steph, I always understood that the shade thrown at Mirror Matt was always in good fun just like with Jason and Chris, but in retrospect, yeah it's really easy to see that as not in good fun. I hope Mirror Matt is doing well and all things are sorted out there. Mirror Matt is cool, and I appreciate him. I honestly wish there was more of him/his voice and/or commentary on the stream (but with covid, and the fact that there's a business to run I get why there isn't more of it). I also truly appreciate MatPat and Steph for taking time to address it and make a public apology to Mirror Matt. You two are wholesome. Keep doing what you're doing :)
Playing this game to get the correct options is like going to a stand up comedy show to go to the toilet. You miss all the funny stuff but at least can say you were there.
In among us, you play as either Henry or a Toppat member. The Toppats are the crew mates, monitoring the orbital station, and Henry is imposter. If you play 2 imposters, the second is Ellie.
I'm so happy to see the Mirror Mat issue resolved quickly. Even though it was definitely way too overblown, it still left a bad taste in my mouth, and I never wanted to feel that way with one of my most respected and favorite RUclipsrs. Nothing but respect for their apology, i love them so much
But they're still two different games, so it would be a crossover. Batman and Superman are both DC properties, but when they appear in the same story it's still a crossover
I think it's thanks to inclusion of Among Us references in The Henry Stickmin Collection that it got so popular, because Among Us videos started popping up soon after The Henry Stickmin Collection release.
I platonically love Matt and Steph but they've been saying that the last couple episodes and it's been bothering me so much, I know it shouldn't be but like, THEY'RE BOTH INNERSLOTH
There's a multiverse secret/true ending after you get all the fails. When you get the option in chaos containment in an ending, the multiverse bar will now be full and there will be a button there. Like so MatPat sees this.
I really appreciated their apology. They did a really good job of giving all sides of the story: how they meant it, how it actually came across, and discussing it with Matt. They acknowledged that the perception (being mean to an employee) was important and relevant even though their intentions were different. I think it was a very mature discussion/apology.
I'm really glad they addressed what happened in the other stream, it really came across as aggression, and MatPat seemed genuinely angry at Mat at one point. I'm more happy to know that they personally apologized and talked to Mat more than anything.
yeah, it definitely felt less like a joke than when they were ribbing with Jason and Chris. I'm glad they addressed it, cause I definitely started to feel a bit uncomfortable on Mirror Matt's behalf
Anyone that’s been in their streams knows they would never be mean to someone on purpose. The fact that they apologized just shows what kind of people they are. I really respect them for that
The greatest plan ever.... Charles is the best character of all time in this series.... i cry every single time I see this ending.... rest in peace Charles...
I'm glad to hear that things were discussed with Mirror Matt. I was one of those who spoke up about being uncomfortable with how he was treated. I hope MatPat will also be in a better mood too, I'm worried stress gets the better of him more so lately than usual.
It seemed obvious to me that it wasn't malicious, but I guess you weren't watching as long, so you didn't draw the parallels between Jason, Chris, and Mirror Matt
@@jolenemathews But he isn't one of them, he's younger and at least for now seems to have different personality. It's not about the intent but mostly about how Matt recieves their acting because it can hurt him and make anxious and no one wants that to happen.
@@samara.morgan I'm sure that they gave Mirror Matt some info about how they conduct livestreams before they hired him. I can't imagine them not telling him about #blamejason, and I can't imagine him not doing any due diligence.
@@samara.morgan maybe since hes new he just didnt know how to act like Jason and Chris. I think it didn't offend him but he wasn't experienced enough to know how to show the audience it didn't bother him... idk
As a fan I am really proud that Matt and Steph owned up to their mistake. Actually, I'm proud that they own up to mistakes in general instead of covering it days, weeks, or months later. We all make mistakes and don't realize it until after the fact, and thats okay (Unless it's something utterly stupid). You guys DO work hard and you guys DO make a positive community and NEVER forget that. Keep in mind, Matt and Steph run 4 channels and 3 of those channels require a ton of research and hard work (Not saying they don't work hard with GTLive), including managing a team, running a family, 2020 it self, and any other personal problem off of RUclips and the internet. I get it and I bet others do as well. When I'm stressed and have work to do I tend to come off as rude to friends and family, or I forget that I need to be more careful about what I say with this person compared to this person or this friend group compared to that friend group. I accept your apology and admire how much you guys care about and how much time you put into this community. If anything, you make 2020 just a little better every time I watch a video. I also apologize for this long comment, I just didn't want some half made apology acceptation (I guess you could call it that). Edit: Henry stickmin and among us are made by the same people. Haha!
Charles: *literally blows up in a giant spaceship* GTLive: Hes been useless for so much of the game and killed us so many times but when he dies we feel bad
Mat and Steph are such great role models, especially for someone young like me. They are truly inspiring, and the fact that they listened, acknowledged, and apologized for how their actions came across just reminds me of why I look up to them! So If you see this Matpat and Steph, just know that you guys are amazing and inspiring!
40:47 This area is a reference to the precursor to the Henry Stickmin Series known as Crossing the Pit. It has all the same options and most of them even fail in the exact same way that they did in Crossing the Pit.
I really appreciate you guys giving a genuine, heartfelt apology to your community. A lot of creators are too prideful to give a sincere apology, but I love that you guys are really honest with us and show that you really do care about this community
I think it's hard The Matt situation as with Jason and Criss we 'knew' them more but we don't know Matt so we don't know how he reacts to things like that and that's what made it awkward. I am so happy you addressed this cause it did make me feel a bit mmmm...
42:18 People thirsty for content in quarantine flocked to the release of Henry Stickmin, and said, "Hey, what's these odd references in the background? Maybe another game made by the dev?" And found Among Us. Hungry for socialization, the less introverted types(or introverts with good friend groups) Flocked to Among Us, and spread its popularity in quarantine. Seems pretty Cut-and-dry to me.
I just realized Henry is British. He listens to BBC, you can hear a bit of an accent by listening carefully, for example listening to his voice in the dragon ball Z reference or really carefully to the tone and anything else he says, all the people apart from ITA, FTC, and CTM are locals, and like Henry, also have accents.
"Next thing you know Henry Stikmin's going to be in Smash Bros."
Nintendo: "Write that down, write that down!"
final smash : summon charles
That would be nice to have Nintendo get an Idea from this video
I just hope if they do they take all the credit
Noel joseph lol
@@noeljoseph5147 and then he smashes the helicopter into the enemies! muahahaha it's the greatest plan!
Not a bad idea actually
When you realized all of Charles “Greatest plan’s” never ended with him still alive
why did you have to point that ouuuuutttttt!?!?!?@?
his death did make me almost cry tho, ngl
Oooooooooouuu
I never realised that that until now-
Great plans COST SACRFIST
Was it a great plan?
I find it really funny that MatPat and Steph don't realize that the group that made the Henry Stickmin collection also made Among Us. Its fun to think about.
yeah lol, they're all Theory Mode it's very funny xD i hope they realize that they're just from the same dev soon
Please like this so they can know.
It’s kinda funny how they didn’t connect the dots
@@XPTanush It's always the most obvious theories that slip by us ;)
I noticed that
The Among Us devs didn't make Henry Stickmin, they just distributed it.
The escalation of Mat's voice getting higher as he realized Charles wasn't gonna make it....Like dang it got so high! XD
why has he never done a theory on Henry stick man
@@lindahamilton2996 he said in another video that the lore just kinda explains itself through the gameplay and he cant really make a video other than a timeline of HSC
Mat & Steph to Charles death- " *He may be an idiot, but he's our idiot.* "
Yes
A g r e e d
:)
Charles has served us well but that... Was the greatest plaaaaaan
@@GoldNight_ Wait a minute how are you here arent you dead
Steph and Mat at Charles' funeral:
Mat: *choked with tears* He was so useless.
Steph: *Wiping away tears* What an idiot.
If you want to imply them doing something, it would help if you use asterisks (*).
*doesnt it make it bold by doing that?
Markiplier in the corner: *having a breakdown*
But we love that idiot
Delete This🔫
The evolution of their opinion on Charles:
“Ugh, this guy is such a idiot”
“Let’s do the Charles run!”
“CHARLESSSSSSSS NOOOOOOOOOOO”
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaattt!!!!!
charles is deeeeeeeeaaaaaaddddddd
NUUUUUUU!!!!
@@ligrivnimsag798 are you 10 or somthing
i said whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
i mistyped it
ok
“Could say it was the greatest plan”
QwQ
Wait your alive
Wait wat yiu frickin alive
:(
..... MY the-
Theory: henry stares at the teleporter then breaks it like he knows it won't work, does this mean that he is aware of his past lives and deaths?? Why else would he be so mad at the teleporter?
Yes everything that can happen has happened
Actually a RUclipsr I watch called Captainsauce pointed out that he knows about it. In every game after the first when he uses the teleporter Henry slowly becomes more and more on edge about using it till he finally snaps in Completing the Mission and breaks it. He remembers every time he uses the teleporter
Also there's the potential of Henry experiencing how bad it is to use it during the sneak ending in Stealing the diamond; that would probably be enough. And I think it might also happen in the prison places without it failing as well but oof.
Also apparently the fails in the intro might've all been cannon [which would include the Teleporter] according to the wiki unlike every other fail due to the doctor's report in Escape the Prison saying that he had "Bruises and cuts" and "Quite the beating". [I think that's where they got that line from, anyway.]
Also in the secret ending the whole story is just a continues loops of henry's adventure after the last ending the secret one, the whole thing will go back to the beginning of escaping the prison. So maybe henry is really aware of all that happened in his life
Bruh! That's an AMAZING Theory!
“Wait, the banter’s serious?”
“Always has been.”
Here before the blow up
Your comment will blow up, I feel it in my interest bones
I mean, I personally don’t know if this comment will blow up, but if it does, I want to get on the train before it leaves the station.
Never ahae we had witty banter, it is all serious.
I thought it was witty.
It's got "VIRTUALLY limitless storage". You know, like how the Titanic was advertised to be "VIRTUALLY unsinkable"
OHHHHH
Titanic Reference
@@chozetsureal What gave it away? Was it the fact that I said "The Titanic"? And I more talking about the actual ship ITSELF, not the movie.
@@triples3273 Yeah, a direct reference to the real titanic.
We learned about the Titanic recently in school and had an essay on who was to blame for the sinking. (I blamed Harland and Wolff because they used cheaper, weaker rivets to save money so tgey didn't take the project seriously)
“Crawling through the vent, these wounds they will not heal”
-Charles
sus
😭 WHYYYYYY
Can we all collectively agree that we either HAVE a Charles friend or ARE the Charles friend?
I have no friends :)
Yes
@@kilf2318 then you are Charles
No, we NEED the Charles friend
Honestly, I'm both, but at different times
Hey Mat, if you’re playing this game in full screen, that’s probably the reason it keeps messing up - the Devs said that they didn’t make it an option, (so I don’t know how you’re playing in it, lol), because the game didn’t work well in it.
Edit: Oh yeah, and the reason you keep seeing these Among Us references is because the games are made by the same people.
The reason of how are they playing in full screen mode is because the devs added it in a patch
they did add it, but it's a little buggy.
I wish I could tell him
Joako Quesada Oh, cool then, lol.
gimmeyobread yeah a lot of people don’t know that its made by the same people
Here’s my theory MY GAME THEORY Henry can see in the future or something like that because he remembers all the fails if you watch all the teleporter fails you see that he remembers them all he gets more hesitant every time
He probably can remember the fails cuz in one of the routes if you pick the teleporter he just smashes it
@@semlepoeter1625 they did that route
Here is another one. He can time travel. Because in escape the prison, in the legal ending, Felix (Yes that is his name.) brings up a doctor's analysis. If he could see the future, why would he be beaten up?
Actually, it's all thanks to the power of his Stand, Reference. We've seen that Reference can send people to other timelines, so it's very likely that every time you fail, Reference swaps Henry to anoher line.
He also probably has a special power that he is able to will into being whatever he needs to solve a problem where do you think he gets all that stuff
"What AmongUs crossover" *Plays a game created by the creators of AmongUs*
@Captain Bad Apple. accutualy this game is full of reference from other games so it's easy to miss but the inner sloth logo is not hard to miss.
In honor and memory of our fallen hero
“This is the greatest plan”
-Charles
that almost made me cry :,(
Sings sad warfare music
:(
Legends never fall, legends never die
That scene brings me to tears..
Hey MatPat, in Among Us you can give yourself a hat that Henry wears. Also when emptying the trash you will sometimes see the teleporter or the diamond.
Another thing, the RUclipsr CaptainSauce notes that Henry remember that the teleporter has failed. So he has theorized that Henry remembers the fails.
I thought I recognized the among us art style
the games are made by the same developers!
@@elizabethepstein3063 Seriously no one looks at the developers of the games
Elizabeth Epstein I am well away. I’m just making some connections between the games.
There are actually way more Henry Stickmin references in Among Us
Oh no, not this ending.
Its the ending i hate it its so sad ;(
@@StinkerStoinker BOI YOU CRUISN FOR A BRUISN
@@StinkerStoinker you've yeeed your last haw. *(loads rocket launcher with malicious intent)*
Mask boys Official Watch out guys, we got an edge lord coming through.
Mask boys Official we’re talking about Valiant Hero. Government Support x Presumed Dead. IT IS IN THIS VIDEO
Everyone: Alright Charles is gonna find a different pod,
Everyone when they hear the sad music: OH SHIIII- *Crying*
try the get cyan among us
Whenever sad music starts you need to get the tissue out.
dontt curse
@@rgaming2175 why
Matpat and Steph: "Why are there so many Among Us crossovers?"
Literally everyone else: "Because it's Innersloth"
Did Innersloth publish this game or something?
The original flash games were made by one guy and some voice actors.
@@dinodare1605 Said one guy is the co-founder of Innersloth and helped developping and publishing Among us, hence the references.
Yeah and Among Us isn't actually a new game, it's been out for a couple years. While they were putting the references to Among Us in this chapter during development I doubt that Innersloth even knew how popular it was going to get 😅
@Dino Dare there is 3 people working on the company of “Innersloth.” This company published both Among us and Henry Stickmin remaster, but the original flash game was only made by puffballs. Puffballs is the only voice actor for Henry Stickmin OG and remaster. With an exception of Ellie, which is voiced by puffballs sister.
Actually every ending and fail is canon, because Henry looks at the teleported and knows that it never works, which means he must remeber every fail and ending
@@luisgustavo5907
Valiant Hero is canon. Every ending is canon. No fails are canon, Henry acknowledges it due to the multiverse.
While every ending including fails are cannon, that changes with the multiverse imbalance ending, where all fails, including the ones with the teleporter, are deleted
@@luisgustavo5907 that didn’t sound like a joke when you put it as all caps
That means nothing, it's an inside joke
Pfttt it's just an inside joke.. Lol
I just noticed, the rocket fail: "You just lit a rocket. Rockets explode", is a reference to the first Toy Story movie when Buzz used the rocket to boost him and Woody to reach Andy's car. Very cool Puffballs, very cool
Yeah I noticed that recently too :D
yeah and all the choices in that specific area is a reference to one of the creator's earliest games, "Crossing the Pit" if you didn't know
i'll go now-
@@potatopal2985 don't worry I did know about crossing the pit. The voice was at a high pitch in the original game
@@potatopal2985 "game". You couldn't really win.
@@ManiacOfRUclips yeah, you're right on that-
Matt and Stephanie whenever Charles dies in fails: 😆
Matt and Stephanie when Charles died in ending: 😭
*OKAY THE APOLOGY, IN THE BEGINNING, IS HOW YOU ARE S U P P O S E D TO APOLOGIZE!*
*-Acknowledge*
*-A c t u a l l y a p o l o g i z e*
*-Understand how it's wrong*
*-THE END*
*RUclips APOLOGIES: TAKE NOTES*
'claps'
They should not have had. They are very playful with their comedy.
Im so happy they resolved the issue quickly before it got overblown. Even though it was never that big of a deal. I have nothing but love and respect for them!
*cough* paul brother's
Don't mind me, just placing a reply here as a save spot
I’m so glad they apologized. It wasn’t too big of a deal, but that just shows how responsible they are. We don’t deserve them
Yes. I know that they're a good people, and I'm so glad that the situation have been clarified now.
Thier the you tubers we need but not the youtubers we deserve
Rip
Apologized?
@@Plasma476 the beginning of the video before the gameplay
Steph apologizing made me so genuinely happy. She was very earnest, very calm and collected.
Matpat explaining how the roles were passed down from Jason to Chris to MirrorMatt was also very understandable, which was exactly what I thought was the case, to be honest.
And the addition of MirrorMatt coming onto the team in such a weird time might’ve also been an issue, now that I think of it.
The way they talked about it was pretty much perfect, I hope they’re all moving forward happily ^^
I’m just so happy Mat and Steph have addressed this in the way they did, very honestly and very to te point.
I love my yt parents
Yes, Steph handled this amazingly! MatPat was a bit miffed that they had to apologize, but at least he still went with it. Glad they addressed the issue.
Fernando Motta thank you for this comment :)
MatPat wasn’t “miffed” he just didn’t know what exactly he had to apologize for, because tbh they did absolutely nothing wrong and Mirror Mat just needs to learn how to address an envelope to avoid a roasting, it was all in good humor and Mirror Mat wasn’t even phased, y’all just misinterpreted the situation (at their core I know that Mat and Steph are genuinely kind people and wouldn’t want to intentionally harm another, it just sometimes they be lacking them social skills)
@@giosevilla6182 The vast majority of the commenters who voiced concerns also think of MatPat and Steph as genuinely kind people. That's why their interactions with Matt seemed so out of character. It's ok to criticize someone you like.
@@glittery_cucumber that's fair, I dont think he was upset they had to apologize though, I think it's more a situation where apologizing feels weird bc neither of the parties involved were actually hurt or in the wrong, it was just them and Matt joking around and people interpreted it as serious. In the end tho, no one was hurt and I think they addressed it well, just a simple misunderstanding between personalities on/behind the camera and the audience
The change of expresions on Mat's and Steph's face during the valiant hero ending is amazing!
I found it incredible how this characters can make us feel more emotions than other characters in a lot of triple A games this days.
HE CAN 😭😭😭😭
If "off" stands for offence, then "on" is for onslaught
OH NO
The c h a o s
On:oni chan
on the fence?
“on the way to brazil”
Mat : "I feel bad when Charles sacrificed himself"
Me : "don't we all"
Hello
Why must you hurt me in this way
I don't...
yes
"Can you play as henry sickmin in among us?"
No, but you can have him as your pet. Also you can have ellie as your pet, and play as charles
there's even hats that resembles toppat, the government, the wall, and even the guards and they are wearables.
Isn't one of the helmets the one Henry wears while trying to hide out in the bar in the supposed dead combos right?
Lacy Taylor yeah it is
And also there is the those Russian (fleeing the complex)the guards outfit
You can't play like Charles, you can have his headphones. There are a lot of hats resembling Henry Stickmin
I love how Charles is universally everyone favourite the second they meet him.
He's the man with the plan!
You gotta love him.
If you don't like him,
You are thrown out.
so correct
Among Us and Henry Stickmin were made by the same person. That's why there are so many references. I think that's why Among Us is so popular right now, because Henry Stickmin got more popular. (Also, those Among Us figures you've seen are collectables, like the paintings in Stealing The Diamond.)
a surprising amount of people (probably over 70%) dont know that among us was made by the same devs as henry stickmin
And in among us you can find a number of references to Henry Stickman as well.
The Teleporter also makes an appearance in Among Us in the garbage empty task (it's in the leaf pile)
@@TheRavenCoder the diamond does as well.
I knew henry stickmin before among, but then again, I have known Henry Stickmin for a log time
10:35 on Henry's comms device there's a sticky note that says "From: Charles :)"
Awww
That shows how he’s connected to the path. So that’s cool.
I noticed that
@@dragomirstevanovic9088 they have different last names. But I would be surprised if it was confirmed.
@@rainbowangel5264 they may have different father's and the same mother
This man really doesn’t know that Innersloth made Among Us and Stickmin 😂
Also Henry and Ellie are pets in Among Us
Charles pet when
#ADDCHARLES
@@aidenhanson884 they put his headset in among us
@@aidenhanson884 hey sans
And you don't know that It's puffballs united that make the henry stickmin games, Innersloth only publish it in Steam, and with some references to his game
“I dunno, I’m not a rocket doctor.”
- Charles, 2020
You guys are literally the best for acknowledging the 'picking on Matt' situation in the beginning. I think a lot of us who have been fans for a little longer kinda realized that is was all meant in good humor because, like you, we had kinda grown to take on the joke of #BlameBehindTheCamera and didn't really think much of it. Good on those who pointed out that it went a little farther than what seemed to be comfortable, and I think its really awesome of team theorist to address it not only with us, but with Matt himself too. Its little things like that that make you guys one of the most respected RUclipsr teams out there.
ImJustVerable what situation are they talking about? i don’t watch all their streams and i’m confused on who matt is. i thought like jason was behind the camera and chris left because they had moved..?
lindsey same I’m confused
@@ParadoxBrony @lindsey
(Warning, this got a tad long, I'm sorry)
As far as I'm aware Chris and Jason are still part of the team, however obviously when Matt and Steph moved, all of team theorist wasn't able to just pick up and go with them. So I think they help with editing and technical advice and stuff from the West Coast, but aren't there physically.
Matt (or Mirror Matt as they call him, since having 2 Matt's gets confusing) is the guy they hired to take on Jason/Chris' job once they got to East Coast. He's a really quiet, but is a really solid addition to the team all around.
I'm not sure how farmiliar you guys are with channel memes (since you said you haven't watched all their streams. I won't claim to have seen every single one either, but I've seen a good majority) but it's been sort of a running joke to, whenever anything minor goes wrong with the stream, poke fun at whoever is behind the camera and give them a (lovingly!) hard time about it. They did this with Mirror Matt a few streams back, and as they said, they didn't see their fault at the time, and a lot of us who understand the joke didn't either. A few very sympathetic and observant souls in the comments of that video pointed out that they seemed to take it a little far. In this video, those comments are what they've addressed. Like Steph explained, they knew Jason and Chris for a long time, so the jabs were all around enjoyed and unoffending, but because Mir. Matt just met them recently, it probably didn't come off the same way, thus they took time to sit down and actually apologize and explain to him the situation. Then, they cleared it up with us, apologizing for any discomfort/concern they caused in the community. From what I've seen throughout the years, not many youtubers would take the time to go to those lengths and admit to their mistakes, hence my "points to you guys" rant above.
ImJustVerable no worries! thank you for summarizing it. i do know the blame ______ joke but do you know which stream they poked fun at matt for? it’s fine if you don’t know i’m just curious
@@lindseynguyen2070 I believe it was their last Henry Stickmin stream? But I wouldn't quote me on that cause I've got the memory of an 80 year old goldfish, and I tend to binge multiple streams at once so they sorta blur
The sound of failing card swipe is giving me anxiety 😂
(When Charles was trying to hack the keypad)
It’s the same as among us when the card fails or it’s too fast or slow 🤣
MatPat - "The master plan. A Henry Stickmin and Among Us crossover"
Me reading on the Among Us website they are making a Henry Stickmin level: 😲😲😲😲
THEY ARE?!
@@OzzieStorm YEP!
Seeing as they made both games its epic 👀
They made both games
The artist of among us made Henry stickmin
22:34 Charles tries to use the door, but gets the admin card sound from among us. The admin card haunts inner sloth in every game they make/produce
Oh god 😅
Can we all shout them out and respect them from coming out to saying sorry to us and also to Mirror Matt? Clap and A Half to them
Absolutely! 👏+ 👏/2. It was such a relief to hear them apologize and reassure us that everything is good between them and Mirror Matt.
Yes, I'm very glad they adressed it because it did came off weird considering he just started his job and doesn't really know much about gaming livestreaming unlike Chris, Jason and Amy
Nat - like, it’s kinda starting a friendship. At the beginning, you usually be nice to them, then later on you get to mess around them
Imagine that Henry Stickmin is stuck in a time loop where he can only move forward if you get the right answer and he remembers everything. Every death, every injury, every fail. It could explain why he's so skilled and went to a life of crime because it was the only correct answer as well as being something fun that would help him cope with dying over and over again and seeing his friends die due to his actions. Just something on my mind lmao
That is what happend I mean he knows that the teleporter doesn't work
Matt Jassen tru. tru.
multiverse correction
Every single option is a different time line
Man, Undertale vibes with this Theory
Now I actually want Charles, Henry, Ellie and Right hand man in smash.
I want Henry who can call in Ellie and Charles
Maybe his side b could be charles crashing his helicopter
Hammer monkey Charles flying into the screen would be the final smash. Or maybe stickmin pawnch
Possibly they’ll be alternate costumes for the popular characters like the main costume would be Henry alternates would be Charles, Ellie etc
I made miis of them
“He’s been useless for so much of the game!”
“What an idiot.”
Isn’t this suppose to be the time we grieve the loss of Charles?
I mean, he was an idiot, but he was a lovable idiot.
I mean, intelligence shouldn't matter.
Love how they started to love Charles after they witnessed him sacrifice himself for ours (aka Henry's) and the world's safety instead of judging him for being stupid for all those times
"There's like a backward I..."
Steph. The letter I is symmetrical. It can't be backward.
Maybe she meant upside down instead of backwards, and she was talking about a lowercase i
"You mean an exclamation mark?"
p and q are kinda the same
Raspberry Hoodie and when you flip the q and flip it to the right it’s a b
R just has another leg and b is q upside down
“Next thing you know Henry stickmin is gonna join super smash brothers”
Imagine
do you know what that would be?
_the greatest plan_
Every single one of his attacks is RNG based, like G&W’s Judge move
And his final smash?
THIS IS THE GREATEST PLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!
This could happen considering steve is in smash
@@eddmario even better every important character gangs up and gets helicopters to crash into the other one
“He’s been so useless”
*Cries in fleeing the complex*
I interpreted your interaction with Matt as that ribbing/banter that you'd often have with Chris and Jason, but I can understand why other people interpreted it differently. We had limited context and the dynamic is different because, as you said, Matt is newer.
I'm really happy MatPat mentioned that he talked with Matt about it because that shows that he's concerned with his employees as people and it showed me that you guys weren't just playing "Damage Control". You were actually concerned with doing the right thing.
So wholesome.
Yeah I thought the same thing. I never took it as Matt and Steph being actually mean to the new guy, it's something they're used to doing. And I get that other people might have interpreted it that way but I don't GET get it, anyone who's been watching these streams long enough to know their dynamic with their employees would know they'd never have malicious intent behind what they're saying.
@@selinnazsur2328 exactly! Theyre good people who would didn't mean to cause any harm.
They're literally like the sweetest couple ever!
@@DecemberSfy they are!!
Which “stream” was this that that happened? I don’t have any context
Well, the good news is that Charles doesn't need a helicopter to fly, he has wings now up on heaven.
Thats so sweet!
Don’t... Don’t do that to me... Don’t add more gas to the flame...
"This is the greatest plaaaaaaaaan!!"
*decends from the heavens and destroys window*
@@RamielEdits :,)
Why must you hurt me in this way
Who’s gonna tell him he had to collect all the among us characters
Me
@@anthonymartinez9061 what are u waiting for
@@Mr.CubicFrame i'm not talkin to u
Who’s gonna tell him among us is in the game because they are a game by the same developers
@@squareguy7406 everyone
MatPat and Steph, I always understood that the shade thrown at Mirror Matt was always in good fun just like with Jason and Chris, but in retrospect, yeah it's really easy to see that as not in good fun. I hope Mirror Matt is doing well and all things are sorted out there. Mirror Matt is cool, and I appreciate him. I honestly wish there was more of him/his voice and/or commentary on the stream (but with covid, and the fact that there's a business to run I get why there isn't more of it).
I also truly appreciate MatPat and Steph for taking time to address it and make a public apology to Mirror Matt. You two are wholesome. Keep doing what you're doing :)
I’m glad I didn’t see that. It sounds like it was a sad time.
Who is mirror mat
@@kazoo.wav_ the new Chris
@@ThePageTurnerPT
The new, new Jason*
Chris took over the stream after Jason, now Mirror Matt took the reins.
I don't even understand what happened
They say real men don’t cry but this shows us that’s not true
Always...
Has..
Been.
Real men cry for Charles.
When the ship blew up, Steph looked legitimately heartbroken. And Matt was just like OH NO OH NO!!! the whole time.
O H N O
Anyways
"You could say it was the greatest plan"
My heart: I'm gonna self-destruct
Playing this game to get the correct options is like going to a stand up comedy show to go to the toilet.
You miss all the funny stuff but at least can say you were there.
Exactly and its not like is extremely hard to get the correct choices
In among us, you play as either Henry or a Toppat member. The Toppats are the crew mates, monitoring the orbital station, and Henry is imposter. If you play 2 imposters, the second is Ellie.
23:57 And that when the " I've won, but at what cost?" starts coming in
If somebody doesn’t cry when seeing valiant hero, they have no soul.
Chorito I didn’t cry
I cried on the inside tho
Beautiful tribute to Valiant Hearts
I didn’t cry...
I GOT DEPRESSED
I cried cried hard, harder then ps4 spiderman ending
I’d just like to point out it said “Virtually Limitless” Also the titanic was in h there so it makes sense it was full
I'm so happy to see the Mirror Mat issue resolved quickly. Even though it was definitely way too overblown, it still left a bad taste in my mouth, and I never wanted to feel that way with one of my most respected and favorite RUclipsrs. Nothing but respect for their apology, i love them so much
I think the Toppats did something to Charles' helicopter when he says "it's getting personal"
No. He's just taking all the times they get away as mocking him.
That makes sense.
Among Us is made by the same developers!
Edit: Ok i changed it only one person needs to tell me
Uh no. It would still be a crossover even if they made the game
But they're still two different games, so it would be a crossover. Batman and Superman are both DC properties, but when they appear in the same story it's still a crossover
I think it's thanks to inclusion of Among Us references in The Henry Stickmin Collection that it got so popular, because Among Us videos started popping up soon after The Henry Stickmin Collection release.
Still a crossover friend
I platonically love Matt and Steph but they've been saying that the last couple episodes and it's been bothering me so much, I know it shouldn't be but like, THEY'RE BOTH INNERSLOTH
Not enough people are addressing the ‘serious banter’ I appreciate they spent time and actually talked about it.
There's a multiverse secret/true ending after you get all the fails. When you get the option in chaos containment in an ending, the multiverse bar will now be full and there will be a button there. Like so MatPat sees this.
thank you for telling me i did not know and man was it good
And he has done it
I remember finding that. I really liked it.
The Red Herring actually being the correct choice is my favorite joke of the entire series.
“Well we got’em, it was a pretty good plan. Could say it was the greater pla-“
it was your last plan :(
Oh our alive?
CHARLES NO
Noice
@@zachisgoodatreavels7118 U are 'the egg' not Charles.
I really appreciated their apology. They did a really good job of giving all sides of the story: how they meant it, how it actually came across, and discussing it with Matt. They acknowledged that the perception (being mean to an employee) was important and relevant even though their intentions were different. I think it was a very mature discussion/apology.
R.I.P. Charles, it truly was the greatest plan.
NO IT WASN'T BECAUSE CHARLES DIED
@@komarunaegi9719 lol that is exactly what I was thinking.
for emphasis, put comma after “it truly was”
So it’s “R.I.P. Charles, it truly was, The Greatest Plan.
I'm really glad they addressed what happened in the other stream, it really came across as aggression, and MatPat seemed genuinely angry at Mat at one point. I'm more happy to know that they personally apologized and talked to Mat more than anything.
yeah, it definitely felt less like a joke than when they were ribbing with Jason and Chris. I'm glad they addressed it, cause I definitely started to feel a bit uncomfortable on Mirror Matt's behalf
what stream are they referring to?
@@canadianapology3283 Impostors are EVERYWHERE! | Perfect Vermin (Scary Game)
Really? It totally seemed like a joke to me? I'm glad they apologized and cleared the air, but I don't think they were ever trying to be mean.
"Can you play as Henry in Among us?"
No, but him and Ellie are pets you can have.
2:05
Lol, MatPat showing his Catholic roots by giving the tricaster it's Last Rites 😂
2:20 The TriCaster:
"You'll remember that I served you well.
Cases rise, Playthroughs end,
And we have seen each other through, my friend"
“So when streams come to me,
I will shut it down
To remind you of my love”
(My attempt at continuing this and the original song. Sorry if it is bad)
😂😂😂😂😂
I started singing da da da ya da.
Anyone that’s been in their streams knows they would never be mean to someone on purpose. The fact that they apologized just shows what kind of people they are. I really respect them for that
The greatest plan ever.... Charles is the best character of all time in this series.... i cry every single time I see this ending.... rest in peace Charles...
42:30 First of all, Among Us came out in 2018. Second of all, it and Henry Stickmin were made by the same people.
I'm glad to hear that things were discussed with Mirror Matt. I was one of those who spoke up about being uncomfortable with how he was treated. I hope MatPat will also be in a better mood too, I'm worried stress gets the better of him more so lately than usual.
It seemed obvious to me that it wasn't malicious, but I guess you weren't watching as long, so you didn't draw the parallels between Jason, Chris, and Mirror Matt
@@jolenemathews But he isn't one of them, he's younger and at least for now seems to have different personality. It's not about the intent but mostly about how Matt recieves their acting because it can hurt him and make anxious and no one wants that to happen.
@@samara.morgan I'm sure that they gave Mirror Matt some info about how they conduct livestreams before they hired him. I can't imagine them not telling him about #blamejason, and I can't imagine him not doing any due diligence.
@@samara.morgan maybe since hes new he just didnt know how to act like Jason and Chris. I think it didn't offend him but he wasn't experienced enough to know how to show the audience it didn't bother him... idk
@@jolenemathews I don't know, not everyone can act this way and feel comfortable. Time will show.
As a fan I am really proud that Matt and Steph owned up to their mistake. Actually, I'm proud that they own up to mistakes in general instead of covering it days, weeks, or months later. We all make mistakes and don't realize it until after the fact, and thats okay (Unless it's something utterly stupid). You guys DO work hard and you guys DO make a positive community and NEVER forget that. Keep in mind, Matt and Steph run 4 channels and 3 of those channels require a ton of research and hard work (Not saying they don't work hard with GTLive), including managing a team, running a family, 2020 it self, and any other personal problem off of RUclips and the internet. I get it and I bet others do as well. When I'm stressed and have work to do I tend to come off as rude to friends and family, or I forget that I need to be more careful about what I say with this person compared to this person or this friend group compared to that friend group. I accept your apology and admire how much you guys care about and how much time you put into this community. If anything, you make 2020 just a little better every time I watch a video. I also apologize for this long comment, I just didn't want some half made apology acceptation (I guess you could call it that).
Edit: Henry stickmin and among us are made by the same people. Haha!
It's way overblown, to me it seemed obvious it wasn't malicious...
what happened
People thought they were being a little rude to one of their coworkers so they apologized and explained everything
Charles: *literally blows up in a giant spaceship*
GTLive: Hes been useless for so much of the game and killed us so many times but when he dies we feel bad
*If you don’t get sad when you see that ending, I don’t trust you*
25:05 Here I am,shedding a tear over a stick man with red headphones.
R.I.P Charles, always had the greatest plans
That ending is literally: *"we won but at what cost?"*
But we didn't won. The game just *ended*
Matpat: Charles is useless
Henry Stickmin: ‘A spoonful of VH so fix this right up’
I still can’t watch the valiant hero ending without crying a little bit
Loved the “Serious Banter”.
It was actually pretty serious
ALSO would love to point out that these two would be three best employers because of how wholesome and understanding they are
Charles Calvin...
He was a good man, came with the hilarious and greatest plans.
"this is the greatest plaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnn!"
He was a legend, and legends never die
Charles: does in the most heroic way possible
computer: haha framerate go brrr
Mat and Steph are such great role models, especially for someone young like me. They are truly inspiring, and the fact that they listened, acknowledged, and apologized for how their actions came across just reminds me of why I look up to them! So If you see this Matpat and Steph, just know that you guys are amazing and inspiring!
Yeah! I felt so relieved when they actually approached the problem they were having, theyre such great people.
40:47 This area is a reference to the precursor to the Henry Stickmin Series known as Crossing the Pit. It has all the same options and most of them even fail in the exact same way that they did in Crossing the Pit.
FINALLY CHARLES IS RESPECTED BY THEM
Delirious did the same
This is the ending that got us ALL to appreciate Charles more, lbr
23:40 - 25:15
The fact that Charles dies when you choose the "presumed dead" ending tells me he's probably also presumed dead but actually fine somehow.
It's the last game. They ended the series 😔
Wasn’t presumed dead a Fleeeing the Complex ending?
@@AndyHappyGuy yep
Nah, they made it so that Charles actually dies, so we get sad on a newcomers hated character
mabey in zr steven bubble
They finally saw it, they saw Charles’ plan. *The greatest plan.*
I really appreciate you guys giving a genuine, heartfelt apology to your community. A lot of creators are too prideful to give a sincere apology, but I love that you guys are really honest with us and show that you really do care about this community
I love
🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐱🐼🐼🐼🐼🐼🐼🐼🐼🐼🐼🐼🐼🐼🐼🐼🐦🐦🐦🐦🐦🐦🐦🐦🐦🐦
I think it's hard The Matt situation as with Jason and Criss we 'knew' them more but we don't know Matt so we don't know how he reacts to things like that and that's what made it awkward. I am so happy you addressed this cause it did make me feel a bit mmmm...
What video did this situation happen on?
Melissa Green The Perfect Vermin one
@@collindurre1808 thank you
@@jesserash5197 thank you
@@jesserash5197 it's okay 😊 and gotcha I surely will
30:16
Mat: Everyone's distracted by TV!
Game Developers: Precisely.
Is that a ratatoing reference?
42:18 People thirsty for content in quarantine flocked to the release of Henry Stickmin, and said, "Hey, what's these odd references in the background? Maybe another game made by the dev?"
And found Among Us. Hungry for socialization, the less introverted types(or introverts with good friend groups) Flocked to Among Us, and spread its popularity in quarantine. Seems pretty Cut-and-dry to me.
Firstly, good assessment. Secondly, whose house did you invade to get Internet Access.
THIS is how you do an apology. Every other RUclipsr; please take notes. This is how you apologise when you screw up.
Wait till they find out that you can get Henry as a pet in Among Us
oh they did
I just realized Henry is British. He listens to BBC, you can hear a bit of an accent by listening carefully, for example listening to his voice in the dragon ball Z reference or really carefully to the tone and anything else he says, all the people apart from ITA, FTC, and CTM are locals, and like Henry, also have accents.