@@TheSteveKinney I will look for that. A couple weeks ago I got in my second UF8 to double my frustration. My timing usually sucks but this time... I am very excited about these developments! Hey you deserve more subscribers.
Wow Steve - wish I came across this video when you released it (make sure I am subscribed now!). I have had the SSL for a while and been using Luna since you started doing videos about it. I didn't realize SSL and UA make such advancements here, and your demo of them (especially Flip!) is awesome. Another thanks to you - you keep making videos on Luna while UA has been kind of quiet on content for Luna (despite it continuing to improve). So thank you for that!
It’s an amazing controller isn’t it? I’ve had them all. MCU, faderports, icon pro audio.. Nothing comes close to what this one does. And that new UF1 is looking like it will truly expand upon the workflow freeing up a ton of the soft keys for new macros. Badass.
One feature I'm finding super useful is in "selection mode" hitting the "rec" button and being able to spill any of the busses in Luna. The spill feature is already a home run, but a game changer with the UF8....
Thanks for this video :-) I have my eyes on a UF 8.... But want to use it in Fairlight (Davinci Resolve) and reaper. Still have no idea how well it intergrates.
I have a Behringer X Touch, does everything you just mentioned. Its not just SSL. That being said, I really like it, mixing with sliders lets you move several tracks at a time, instead of one at a time with a mouse, same for adjusting pan. I like they added the cues/send function. Getting levels set to more than one track at a time, ex… 3 tracks going into same send, for say reverb, you can now mix that with sliders. Logic has plugin controls, won’t be long Luna will allow it too.
Hey mate! Ya - the behringer is a cool little controller, definitely does not have the customizable commands.. I probably should have went further into how deep you can take it... you can create full blown macro's...but ya - the main stuff is there for sure... the plugin control stuff is just aweful though. Overly cumbersome to map out.. I'd bet money that UA is keeping this in mind.
I went into logic and was able to use X Touch to control plugins as well, very small learning curve. After this last Luna Update, hopefully, there will be another update soon. Drew made the comment that the “EQ” button on controller to control the cues was temporary, and would change soon. On a sidebar, I went into 🍎/system prefs/display and changed my font sixe +1, what a difference in Luna
Really helpful review! I’ve had mine for a few months but haven’t programmed any soft keys. I like your idea workflow and was wondering if you’d be willing to share the shortcuts that you entered to create the soft keys for each section? Thanks!
Yeah - you can download the free pack and install it into ssl 360 - which will show the exact shortcuts. I don’t have them written down anywhere since I kind of just built it as I went.
@@emeraldescape8710 yup Links are in description, go to my website. Look for the UF8 preset. Or go here: thestevekinney.com/products/uf8-luna-template?_pos=1&_sid=a34994c36&_ss=r
@@TheSteveKinney Awesome thanks bro! So, I did look on your website and I couldn’t find it under any of the sections but your link took me directly to it. Thanks! Will download it tomorrow.
Good stuff! I’d like to be able to scroll across the Mix window from left to right and vice versa in the future, too. You can do this in the Timeline window. Really speeds things up.
@@Tizbax legitimately, I’ve never thought to try it. I’d be surprised if you can - but one way to know is just look up Luna shortcuts and see if there is a keyboard shortcut or an MCU command for it. I’m not in my studio at the moment otherwise I’d try it. Happy 4th!
yeah - there is a bit of work left to be done in the midi workflow, but generally speaking ,it's good enough for me. I like how damn near everything in Luna is automatable.
7:15 - The fine control should give you more granular control over your pan knobs. Check the option in 360 where it can be turned off and on. If it is enabled in 360 using the button on the UCF8 will basically have no impact because it is already on. Looking forward to trying the UF8 with Luna. Just unboxed it and have only used it with ProTools so far. Thanks for the vids. Very helpful. Side question...have you found a way in Luna to display a marker window and then jump to specific markers with the UF8?
Totally agree with the UF8, not being able to access inserts and controlling plugins directly. As I understand it, it works with most other DAW's, even the ancient old HUI protocol in Pro Tools. Quite a dessipointet actually IMO. I wonder how come Luna is so behind, on this matter. Do you know if some of the other midi controllers out there, are better integrated with Luna, or is it like this with all of them? 🤔Thank a lot! 👍
Yeah - I’d have to guess they have some sort of plan in place for this implementation. I really loved what they did sends and cues. So Id guess they are likely just brainstorming how to implement something really great. But ya - it’s just missing at this point.
Thanks Steve, I just picked up the UF8 based on this video. There's a bug I can't figure out. When I opened my first song in Luna the UF8 displayed all the track names correctly. BUT it continues to show those names incorrectly on every song I open! I've rebooted luna, 360, and the UF8 (boy to I agree with your silent condemnation of the lack of power switch) to no avail. any help out there??
highly possible that you don't have the UF8's profile setup correctly for the DAW you're in... if you're in luna, luna now has it's own profile... if you don't have a profile for the UF8, then you probably need to update SSL 360 now when you mention first plugin insert, does that mean you're running one of SSL's plugins like the 4kB? cause that's a different story.
@@lordwormpie I think it’s that it’s one of the newer VST3 formats and it’s not entirely a supported for in Luna. Think of it like ara. The plugin works as a plugin but the extra features are still not entirely supported.
100%, love the fusion- the hardware anyways... LOVE the real thing. Haven't used the plugin.. I know dan worrell ripped one of their plugins recently.. That fusion hardware is one of the few modern devices on my hit list to try to pick up. Cheers mate, more to come!
Great video Steve, I love everything you are putting out. What is your feeling on UA enabling the Plug-in feature and allowing us to use the V pots to control them? Open them using they send/plugin buttons 1-8...etc? If I could control my unison plugins, record FX and insert effects (maybe even the API console emulation) this thing would be unbelievably powerful and I hate the idea that I may have to buy a UC1 or Console 1 for plugin control when it seems it could all be in the UF8....Pete
I’d bet money that they have something under the hood planned. I mean - it just makes sense. As to how that looks - your guess is as good as mine, but there is no way they won’t develop something unique.
@@TheSteveKinney It was a video when you showed yje API and NEVE summing!! My question was about the Sound ID! We should be able to just deactivate it ??
@@kimjackson4753 I’ll try to run back through my videos and see if I can find it. And yeah - you can even just remove it entirely - and then overwrite the preset.
Thanks for the video! Any info about the updates, Uf8 plugin keys in LUNA are useless atm? Or am I missing something? I’d love to use API console emulation with uf8. Cheers from Finland!
Yeah - I cover it in my last video on my channel with the UF8. The updates highlights basically adds the support for sends and cue control. And it ROCKS. Definitely check out that video on my channel. No plugin control yet outside of the “focus” mode.
A lot of us Lunatics were waiting for SSL and UA to get this going. Another nice video. Thanks Steve from a fellow Nashvillian!
Cheers mate!!
I may still have to upload the updated SSL preset on my website if you tried to pick it up.
@@TheSteveKinney I will look for that. A couple weeks ago I got in my second UF8 to double my frustration. My timing usually sucks but this time... I am very excited about these developments! Hey you deserve more subscribers.
@@Nashville_Cat ha ha hey, it’s all good. Double the trouble, double the fun.
Perfect! Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!
@@theJustScience gotta catch up! I have a few newer videos on this too. Follow the journey
@@TheSteveKinney awesome, I’ll dig around!
Wow Steve - wish I came across this video when you released it (make sure I am subscribed now!). I have had the SSL for a while and been using Luna since you started doing videos about it. I didn't realize SSL and UA make such advancements here, and your demo of them (especially Flip!) is awesome.
Another thanks to you - you keep making videos on Luna while UA has been kind of quiet on content for Luna (despite it continuing to improve). So thank you for that!
Cheers mate! Thanks!
I love that implementation of sends and cues in combination with flip faders. Super cool!
Great Job ❤
Thank You for the Video, Keep them coming I learned so much.
Nice video Steve, thanks for the work!
Totally Agree with Simple plug in Control..ie like Studio 1
Yeah it would be great - I just hope it doesn’t become half baked.
@@TheSteveKinney same , im buying my SSL this week 🤞🏼
@@MrTupeloFlash you will love the UF8.
I’ve had a bunch of controllers over the years. This is by far the most fun and impressive.
Great video. Made me buy it for Luna and Reaper when my previous controller died :).
It’s an amazing controller isn’t it?
I’ve had them all. MCU, faderports, icon pro audio..
Nothing comes close to what this one does. And that new UF1 is looking like it will truly expand upon the workflow freeing up a ton of the soft keys for new macros.
Badass.
Great ! Very helpful !
Thanks mate!
thanks a lot for the update and the quality of your videos it helps me a lot !
cheers from Paris France
Alek
Thanks mate! Cheers!
One feature I'm finding super useful is in "selection mode" hitting the "rec" button and being able to spill any of the busses in Luna. The spill feature is already a home run, but a game changer with the UF8....
thanks for great video.
cheers mate!
Thanks for this video :-) I have my eyes on a UF 8.... But want to use it in Fairlight (Davinci Resolve) and reaper. Still have no idea how well it intergrates.
Yeah!
I know I’ve used it in fair light but it’s a lot of basic features.
I think the winner for that is gonna be a dedicated BMD console.
thanks has helped me a lot
I have a Behringer X Touch, does everything you just mentioned. Its not just SSL. That being said, I really like it, mixing with sliders lets you move several tracks at a time, instead of one at a time with a mouse, same for adjusting pan. I like they added the cues/send function. Getting levels set to more than one track at a time, ex… 3 tracks going into same send, for say reverb, you can now mix that with sliders.
Logic has plugin controls, won’t be long Luna will allow it too.
Hey mate!
Ya - the behringer is a cool little controller, definitely does not have the customizable commands.. I probably should have went further into how deep you can take it... you can create full blown macro's...but ya - the main stuff is there for sure... the plugin control stuff is just aweful though. Overly cumbersome to map out.. I'd bet money that UA is keeping this in mind.
I went into logic and was able to use X Touch to control plugins as well, very small learning curve. After this last Luna Update, hopefully, there will be another update soon. Drew made the comment that the “EQ” button on controller to control the cues was temporary, and would change soon. On a sidebar, I went into 🍎/system prefs/display and changed my font sixe +1, what a difference in Luna
@@guyincascade oooo. Brilliant comment mate, thanks! I like that text size tip.
Really helpful review! I’ve had mine for a few months but haven’t programmed any soft keys. I like your idea workflow and was wondering if you’d be willing to share the shortcuts that you entered to create the soft keys for each section? Thanks!
Yeah - you can download the free pack and install it into ssl 360 - which will show the exact shortcuts.
I don’t have them written down anywhere since I kind of just built it as I went.
@@TheSteveKinney Cool thanks bro! Do you have a link to the free pack?
@@emeraldescape8710 yup
Links are in description, go to my website. Look for the UF8 preset.
Or go here:
thestevekinney.com/products/uf8-luna-template?_pos=1&_sid=a34994c36&_ss=r
@@TheSteveKinney Awesome thanks bro! So, I did look on your website and I couldn’t find it under any of the sections but your link took me directly to it. Thanks! Will download it tomorrow.
@@emeraldescape8710 I just tried to look myself, I think my editor updated my site and forgot to put it somewhere.
I’ll end up fixing it. LOL
LUNA just got updated today Tuesday 11/8/22. They added freeze 🥶 track and fixed other bugs 🐛
Yup! Putting out a video today or tomorrow.
Good stuff! I’d like to be able to scroll across the Mix window from left to right and vice versa in the future, too. You can do this in the Timeline window. Really speeds things up.
I believe you can do this with the UF8.
Turn off “nav” mode.
Then you have mixer follows selection.
My icon nano did this as well.
And what about the Talkback, is there a way to assign it ?
Do you mean - assign the talkback function to the SSL UF8?
@@TheSteveKinney yes
@@Tizbax legitimately, I’ve never thought to try it.
I’d be surprised if you can - but one way to know is just look up Luna shortcuts and see if there is a keyboard shortcut or an MCU command for it.
I’m not in my studio at the moment otherwise I’d try it.
Happy 4th!
Hey! I was wondering how you feel about LUNA MIDI. It would be great if they would add Humanize Functionality in LUNA, like LPX has
yeah - there is a bit of work left to be done in the midi workflow, but generally speaking ,it's good enough for me. I like how damn near everything in Luna is automatable.
Hey , thanx for this great video. What Key command are you using for the "Toggle GUI Plugin" I cant seem to find it on the UAD site. cheers.
From memory - I believe it’s shift + w
I'll give it a go.....
ahh its works!
7:15 - The fine control should give you more granular control over your pan knobs. Check the option in 360 where it can be turned off and on. If it is enabled in 360 using the button on the UCF8 will basically have no impact because it is already on. Looking forward to trying the UF8 with Luna. Just unboxed it and have only used it with ProTools so far. Thanks for the vids. Very helpful.
Side question...have you found a way in Luna to display a marker window and then jump to specific markers with the UF8?
Totally agree with the UF8, not being able to access inserts and controlling plugins directly. As I understand it, it works with most other DAW's, even the ancient old HUI protocol in Pro Tools. Quite a dessipointet actually IMO. I wonder how come Luna is so behind, on this matter. Do you know if some of the other midi controllers out there, are better integrated with Luna, or is it like this with all of them? 🤔Thank a lot! 👍
Yeah - I’d have to guess they have some sort of plan in place for this implementation.
I really loved what they did sends and cues.
So Id guess they are likely just brainstorming how to implement something really great.
But ya - it’s just missing at this point.
Nice vid!
Cheers mate!
Thanks
Thanks Steve, I just picked up the UF8 based on this video. There's a bug I can't figure out. When I opened my first song in Luna the UF8 displayed all the track names correctly. BUT it continues to show those names incorrectly on every song I open! I've rebooted luna, 360, and the UF8 (boy to I agree with your silent condemnation of the lack of power switch) to no avail. any help out there??
Steve, my track order in uf8 does not follow my order in 360. I have it as first plug-in insert. Am I going something basically wrong? Thanks
highly possible that you don't have the UF8's profile setup correctly for the DAW you're in... if you're in luna, luna now has it's own profile... if you don't have a profile for the UF8, then you probably need to update SSL 360
now when you mention first plugin insert, does that mean you're running one of SSL's plugins like the 4kB? cause that's a different story.
@@TheSteveKinney set to 4kb. Luna in profile. I’m researching away.
@@lordwormpie I think it’s that it’s one of the newer VST3 formats and it’s not entirely a supported for in Luna.
Think of it like ara. The plugin works as a plugin but the extra features are still not entirely supported.
your thoughts on the ssl fusion? been using luna too. thanks for making all these videos
100%, love the fusion- the hardware anyways... LOVE the real thing. Haven't used the plugin.. I know dan worrell ripped one of their plugins recently..
That fusion hardware is one of the few modern devices on my hit list to try to pick up.
Cheers mate, more to come!
Thank you for this video
Cheers mate!
Great video Steve, I love everything you are putting out. What is your feeling on UA enabling the Plug-in feature and allowing us to use the V pots to control them? Open them using they send/plugin buttons 1-8...etc? If I could control my unison plugins, record FX and insert effects (maybe even the API console emulation) this thing would be unbelievably powerful and I hate the idea that I may have to buy a UC1 or Console 1 for plugin control when it seems it could all be in the UF8....Pete
I’d bet money that they have something under the hood planned. I mean - it just makes sense.
As to how that looks - your guess is as good as mine, but there is no way they won’t develop something unique.
Steve, I have a question about your api mix template! Also I cant find the api video
Hey mate! What's your question. Happy to answer.
Also - I don't have a video on the mix template specifically.
@@TheSteveKinney It was a video when you showed yje API and NEVE summing!! My question was about the Sound ID! We should be able to just deactivate it ??
@@kimjackson4753 I’ll try to run back through my videos and see if I can find it.
And yeah - you can even just remove it entirely - and then overwrite the preset.
Great 👍 tutorial
Pretty cool!!
💯
Cheers mate!
Thanks for the video! Any info about the updates, Uf8 plugin keys in LUNA are useless atm? Or am I missing something? I’d love to use API console emulation with uf8. Cheers from Finland!
Yeah - I cover it in my last video on my channel with the UF8.
The updates highlights basically adds the support for sends and cue control.
And it ROCKS.
Definitely check out that video on my channel.
No plugin control yet outside of the “focus” mode.
Thanks
Wow, thanks Shaun! 🙏🏻
FYI - with the new native UAD plugs, I wouldn’t be surprised if the support for full VST3 isn’t to far around the corner!
@@TheSteveKinney hope so Steve. It confuses me so much 👍🏼