The Best Cars for Learning Manual | Window Shop with Car and Driver | EP098

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  • @cjlemire294
    @cjlemire294 2 года назад +5

    Loved this week's theme! I owned one of those Gen1 TSXs with a 6-speed. Handed it down to my firstborn, who drove it to California then traded it in for a new Miata. Pearley also had a great choice this week. As for me, the car I learned to drive a stick on was a 1977 Renault LeCar.

  • @michaelbruce3050
    @michaelbruce3050 2 года назад +2

    I learned to drive a manual test driving cars with my dad at age 16. I scared him in a CRX Si, a 318is, and a Maxima before he finally agreed to a 1992 Honda Accord EX Coupe 😍 Kudos to Joey’s pick: I really enjoyed my manual TSX back in the day! 👏👏👏

  • @trance9158
    @trance9158 2 года назад +5

    My first time learning to drive a stick was in a brand new Pontiac Fiero. Mastered it in about 10 mins in the parking lot.

  • @BradfordHowen
    @BradfordHowen 2 года назад +4

    I started in a 2007 5spd Accord, also drove an Element with a clunky clutch. I learned how to drive in an Odyssey first, but learned the stick once I had my license. Still daily driving that Accord, replaced the clutch and now I’m up to 271k on it.

  • @TheKolyaRice
    @TheKolyaRice 2 года назад +5

    I learned to drive stick on a F-150 with a 4 speed (granny/creeper first) and the 300 inline 6. You couldn't stall it, but it would buck like crazy if you dumped the clutch 🤣

  • @delholford987
    @delholford987 2 года назад +1

    I learned on a 55 Ford 3 on the tree. My brother rebuilt the trans 3 times. It went very fast behind that 272. I bought a 92 Ford Ranger with a 5 speed 3.0l in 92. It could stall faster than any other stick I’ve driven if you didn’t know how it worked. It had about 1/4” takeup to engage. Stiff as a board. You touched the accelerator pedal and let out the clutch together. No revving, just one quick motion. When the time came, I took my daughter to a big church parking lot. She never got it and I got a blinding headache and had to quit. 3 years later I took my son to a big parking lot on a Saturday when the corporation that owned it was closed. It had a ramp to the dumpster. After a few tries around the lot he was doing OK. Then (my bad) I had him back down the ramp and try to pull out. He got very frustrated and then very angry with me and was ready to walk 6 miles home. I got into the driver’s seat and drove us home. Just a few months later a buddy of his let him drive his Civic. He learned to drive a stick in a few minutes. Lesson learned. I still love that Ranger and I never had to replace the clutch. The young man who bought it from me put a new clutch in after about 5K miles. I guess he couldn’t get that takeup thing going either.

  • @ferrinkatz6796
    @ferrinkatz6796 2 года назад +2

    I learned to drive stick on the first new car i bought myself out of college. It is a 2020 WRX STI, because I'm a child that loves big wings and turbo lag.

  • @coloradodude
    @coloradodude 2 года назад +1

    I learned on a 1976 Dodge colt, it was awesome. I taught my friends on my 1987 Acura Integra.

  • @illyathemoose
    @illyathemoose 2 года назад +2

    I've broadly had some knowledge of how to drive stick by borrowing friend's cars then at some point had a work trip to California and decided to rent a Miata manual in San Francisco. Let me tell you, stalling on the famous hills in SF while in a bright red convertible is not the most glamour thing to do.
    Later that year, bought a mk5 GTI for cheap to fully learn how to drive.

  • @aroundomaha
    @aroundomaha 2 года назад +1

    1930's era pickup truck. It was a farm truck and no one cared if I ground the gears, rode the clutch or even if I had crashed it. The team that designed the new GTI infotainment loved Tony's painting.

  • @ScoutingForZen
    @ScoutingForZen 2 года назад +6

    My first stick lessons were in my sister's 2002 Ford Focus, which didn't have a tach. Later, I bought a 99 Miata so I could master the art

    • @jpking0
      @jpking0 Год назад

      Not sure what was up with GM and Ford with those late 90s/00s manuals. My first was a 99 cavalier and it also didn’t have a tach 😂. Got me to 225,000 miles though so it will always hold a special place in my heart.

  • @stephentempleton9208
    @stephentempleton9208 2 года назад +2

    Great episode- the skill of shifting gears is becoming less and less common. My first vehicle was a 1958 Chevy Apache with three on the tree- great memories of push starting the truck in the 7-eleven parking lot.

  • @justinborysenko3885
    @justinborysenko3885 2 года назад +1

    KC and Tony I feel like dirt bikes taught me. Then Stole my old man’s 1976 Datsun 280Z at 14 years old with my buddy Scott who had driven once. Took 15 minutes then I was master of the burnout.

  • @schneir5
    @schneir5 2 года назад +1

    I learned on a 1990 Toyota 4Runner, had a 91 Toyota MR2 Turbo that I still miss, and have been driving a 95 Miata for like six years.

  • @Supradrew
    @Supradrew 2 года назад +2

    I learned to drive manual on an early 1970s VW Squareback. 😎

  • @toddpleune
    @toddpleune 2 года назад +2

    I learned on a 2011 Mini Cooper S. It was absolutely glorious.

  • @drwisdom1
    @drwisdom1 2 года назад +1

    Back in 1973 my dad quickly got tired of getting me to my Summer job at 6am. So he comes home and says I got you a car. I say really!? Yes, but it has a manual. What's that? I'll show you. So we go out to my first car, a used VW Fastback. It was slow as molasses and didn't even have a tachometer, but I loved having a car and loved driving the manual to the point I have never bought an automatic to this day. I have had four GTIs and they have fun manuals and are practical. I think a 2000-2021 GTI would be a good choice. Or even just a Golf.

  • @calebdavies526
    @calebdavies526 2 года назад +1

    Learned stick on my Miata and have taught 4 people since buying it. The clutch is so linear and light it will more or less teach you how to drive

  • @mry82
    @mry82 2 года назад +2

    Pearly, I thought Civic too. I learned in my Prelude. My NC Miata would be a good one too.

  • @noviceofthelaw
    @noviceofthelaw 2 года назад +1

    Learn to drive in a 1951 Studebaker pick up with an overdrive. It was geared so low it was almost impossible to stall.

  • @silverpairaducks
    @silverpairaducks 2 года назад +3

    Miata...both my kids have one as do I.

  • @MEMAMIMAMA
    @MEMAMIMAMA 2 года назад +1

    No way! I own a TSX from that generation and it's the car I learned stick on. I also had my clutch replaced last week for the first time at 215k miles. Excited to blab about my baby :)
    I got it at ~175k miles with an exhaust leak from a family member who only used it to drive to work and medium distance road trips. In the last 40k miles all I've had to do other than tires/oil/brakes is an alternator, the exhaust (northern salt), and finally this clutch. I actually found it slightly tough to learn stick on. First gear is SUPER short and I often don't have time to even get the clutch all the way out before having to push it back in again to get into second gear. This seems to have improved with the new clutch though. Driving the new clutch was very weird, I felt like I had no idea what I was doing. Other than that though, it's been a wonderful car to learn stick on. All I needed was to do a 6 hour drive and spend an hour in traffic and I was competent.
    It's such a joy to drive and I'm lucky to have time and space to drive it through country roads and rev it all the way out on a regular basis. I don't think I'd give this car up for the world. TSXs, even the autos, are such great deals these days, even when the market was high. The interior is wonderful -- sleek and comfortable. As a whole the car is perfectly practical (ski trips, bikes, big road trips) but sprinkled with extra "nice to have" features without being over the top. They last 250k+ miles with regular maintenance and I see them regularly with reasonable miles under $10,000.
    If you're looking for a reliable, reasonably priced car that's handsome as hell and will provide many smiles, this is your car. Get an 07 or 08 though, they had slightly more power and a nicer gauge cluster middle screen. So happy you chose this car, Joey. I really agree that it's absolutely gorgeous too :)

    • @tonyquiroga3777
      @tonyquiroga3777 2 года назад +2

      Thanks for sharing and thanks for watching!

    • @MEMAMIMAMA
      @MEMAMIMAMA 2 года назад +1

      @@tonyquiroga3777 Thank _you_ for taking the time to make this! :)

    • @tonyquiroga3777
      @tonyquiroga3777 2 года назад +2

      @@MEMAMIMAMA We have a lot of fun making it.

    • @mikeincinci
      @mikeincinci 2 года назад

      @@tonyquiroga3777 It shows.

  • @jamesclark9791
    @jamesclark9791 2 года назад +1

    I learned on a combination of a 86 ford ranger to start but didn’t really get it down until I bought a 98 Dakota and actually got decent at it

  • @dionb5174
    @dionb5174 2 года назад +2

    I went out and bought a car with a manual gear box and had my brother drive it home. 1985 Toyota Camry

  • @johnalterio372
    @johnalterio372 2 года назад +1

    TSX is still available on the website.. Great choice, but I'd try to find a 05-06 manual.

  • @MEMAMIMAMA
    @MEMAMIMAMA 2 года назад +1

    A bunch of great cars here, thanks for the Thursday surprise!

  • @sneakhyperion9297
    @sneakhyperion9297 2 года назад

    I learned to drive a manual with a 1993 mazda mx6 ls. Fun little car but it had a finicky aftermarket clutch and lightweight flywheel that made it really easy to stall

  • @robfern66
    @robfern66 2 года назад +3

    3 on the tree.

  • @mikeincinci
    @mikeincinci 2 года назад

    First stick/first drive was a 4spd manual 1977 VW Westphalia camper. Even after I learned to drive the sub-100 hp brick, I couldn't tell if I was in 1st or 3rd until I let out the clutch. R was unique too.

  • @mrpetit2
    @mrpetit2 2 года назад +2

    Where I live, if you don't drive a stick shift car when you get your licence, you're not even allowed to drive stickshift ( you get a limited licence).
    So virtually everyone can drive stickshift here...

    • @ThatRosco458
      @ThatRosco458 2 года назад

      Where's that?

    • @mrpetit2
      @mrpetit2 2 года назад

      @@ThatRosco458 multiple countries in europe

  • @matthewmain7076
    @matthewmain7076 2 года назад +1

    Long time viewer. This show is one of my favorites. Very folksy. I learned to drive and learned to drive a manual at the same time on a 1991 AWD Toyota Previa 5-speed.
    Two thought.
    1. Can the panel use some sort of browser ad block software?
    2. What about best cars for a trip up the ALCAN? I’m an Alaskan and have driven the road a half dozen times. Some of it remains unpaved and large stretches are quite devoid of people or law enforcement. Would the crew go for sporty speed, a rugged people and gear hauler, or perhaps a home on wheels?

    • @tonyquiroga3777
      @tonyquiroga3777 2 года назад +2

      1. I'll tell the panel to close the ads.
      2. Great suggestion. Adding it to the list. Thanks for watching.

  • @johnhanson403
    @johnhanson403 2 года назад +3

    Jonathon is on a roll today, busting jokes all over the place 😂

  • @normandull9149
    @normandull9149 2 года назад +1

    I learned to drive a manual on a 1984 Toyota Celica in the mall parking lot

  • @craigmueller4249
    @craigmueller4249 2 года назад +1

    Random, but did K.C. help direct the terminal list?

  • @e30ogPlayground
    @e30ogPlayground 2 года назад

    When I was 14, my pops made me drive his old manual Taco across town so it wouldn't get towed. I had never driven a car outside of a parking lot ahahaha. Only stalled twice! When I was reaaaally young he used to let me ride shotgun & let me handle gear changes by engine noise using my left. *Crunch Crunch* every once in a while, teehee. No booster seat, no tach, no airbags smh. Some of my happiest memories with him.

  • @kevinyeh8891
    @kevinyeh8891 2 года назад +1

    I suggest a Toyota Corolla Hatch with the 6 speed iMT.

  • @mumbojumbo159
    @mumbojumbo159 2 года назад +1

    Learned on a Nissan Versa note

  • @trance9158
    @trance9158 2 года назад +2

    Try an old Chevy Chevette or Datsun Z

  • @Ph0enix80
    @Ph0enix80 2 года назад +1

    Have you done an episode on best 4x4 overlander/offroader? Maybe under $50K price point.

    • @tonyquiroga3777
      @tonyquiroga3777 2 года назад

      We haven't in a while, sounds like a great one to revisit. Thanks for watching!

  • @AndrasMihalyi
    @AndrasMihalyi 2 года назад

    I got my drivers licence on an Opel Kadett 1.6 Diesel. 4 speed manual, no power steering, no power either... After that every car I drove was a piece of cake.
    It's weird for me as a European that you get your drivers licence than you learn to how to drive a manual if you choose to...

  • @mikeincinci
    @mikeincinci 2 года назад +2

    On a Thursday? Somebody is going on vacation.

    • @caranddriver
      @caranddriver  2 года назад +6

      And we hope you have a great 4th of July, too!

  • @liebo76
    @liebo76 2 года назад +1

    What car did the cute doggy choose?

  • @integrafreak1
    @integrafreak1 2 года назад +1

    Gated Murci has to be top 5

    • @tonyquiroga3777
      @tonyquiroga3777 2 года назад

      Definitely. Any gated-shifter manual would be great, but impossible to find for less than $40K.

  • @leotam3372
    @leotam3372 Год назад

    I bought a car to learn to drive manual on - MKV Rabbit (Golf) - not terrible, but the vague clutch did not make it easy

  • @imranabbasi7871
    @imranabbasi7871 2 года назад +1

    Ford f150 and Toyota 4runner let talk hybrid cars and suv

  • @dustintregnago7567
    @dustintregnago7567 2 года назад +1

    Drove 200 miles to a dealership, bought a 2008 Subaru Legacy GT and drove it home. Reeeeaaal sketchy test drive with some poor salesman...

  • @liebo76
    @liebo76 2 года назад +1

    I can tell you that it is not an INFINITI G37 sedan, though I like a good challenge. #SpringLoaded

  • @ssamcobalt4956
    @ssamcobalt4956 2 года назад

    Avery Black though?

  • @fs..
    @fs.. 2 года назад

    You can learn to drive a manual when you're 9-10 y.o. on an xr75 like me.

  • @olov244
    @olov244 2 года назад

    best car no doubt is a v8. I started in a 4th gen z28 with t56. it can start in third pretty easily. you can start in 1st with no throttle and without riding the clutch too much

  • @timbaland952
    @timbaland952 8 месяцев назад

    Anyone else get triggered when this dude had 742 tabs open in the internet browser m?

  • @sillytorque
    @sillytorque 2 года назад

    Any car is fine…. It’s driving basics not witchcraft 🤦‍♂️