Alicia Esteve Head (Tania Head) | Fake World Trade Center Survivor
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
- This video answers the question: Can I analyze the case of Alicia Esteve Head (aka Tania Head)?
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People don’t understand how INVOLVED she was amongst survivors, she lied about saying she ‘lost a fiancé’ on that day, even met up with the mayor of NYC. This woman is sick
Interesting. The sad truth is that everyone has a story and you have to be careful who to choose about relating your own story in return. I thought everyone when in pain when keeping it to themselves about how much pain they are in have valid pain. For example if HEAD was trying to teach how to knit or whatever too at a real meet up for knitters that she had lost a fiance too once while on Zoom however it wasn't on the same day as 9/11 only it was someone else there on Zoom too jumping to conclusion at the time instead and then spreading that way of misconstruing what HEAD said may have meant at the time when becoming more bitter all the time about not getting as much insurance money needed too?
she met the family of welles crowther, also known as the firefighter with the red bandana, who saved tens of lives before the towers collapsed. she lied to their faces and said she was probably the last one he saved before being killed. she lied about his supposed last words. she's a sick person.
@@waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I remember this case, but don't remember the specifics anymore. Didn't she say that her boyfriend/husband was killed and used a real name of a man that had been killed in the towers? She even met the family of this man and victimised them...
@@TiffWaffles i believe so. i think she even bought a ring and said it was the engagement ring he gave to her.
That and she supposedly got survivors access to Ground Zero so that the group could do exposure therapy (something that is used with survivors of traumatic events and can help those affected) and she went with a group to Ground Zero.
I feel for this woman, as I was on the space shuttle Challenger when it exploded in 1986.
Lol
😂 you should head up a support group for other survivors😂
@@aircastles1013 hahaha
How much money did your gofundme page raise? 🤣
I seriously get where you're coming from. I think me being on the Titanic when it sank, allowed me to have true empathy and a different perspective for her situation.
I personally believe that this woman deserves more empathy. As a man who was wounded by bullet shrapnel in the theater when Abraham Lincoln was assassinated, I've learned how challenging life can be for those who are living in the shadow of traumatic life events that they have experienced.
Had me in the first half, not gonna lie.
Im so sorry for your brave sacrifice bro. I wish more people knew the harrowing tale of Natsun Eisen but it is unfortunately eclipsed by the fable of Abraham Lincoln, the man who never did anything ):
@@rajgill7576 Yes. That's the frustrating part. Abe Lincoln isn't really that different from Tania Head. He's the type of guy who always has to one-up everyone else, whether it's a matter of tragedy or success. Oh, I'm Abraham Lincoln. I ended slavery. Whatever.
LMAO. That was gold! 😂😂🙏 Well done sir!
@@grammar_shark stay triggered
I feel for her. As a survivor of the Titanic I understand how nobody believes her.
Right?!🤷♀️😂😂😂
As a survivor of the Krakatoa Eruption, I feel for her too.
as a noah’s arch survival, i totally agree
@@615freeco4 Lmao 🤣
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She got a job in the same company as me when I lived in Barcelona around 2012. Someone recognized her on her induction day and she was gone by the afternoon 😂
Wow, busted!
Good
Aw man…that’s unfortunate. I feel really twisted up by this situation. I actually feel really bad for her ☹️
Edit: I’m receiving a lot of really negative and emotionally charged comments in response to this comment. I’ll try to quantify my position.
First let me say that I’m not defending the woman who was the subject of this video. ‘I feel bad for her’ isn’t my saying, geez I wish she hadn’t been fired or I wish everyone would give her a break. I think she sounds like a sick manipulative person.
I explained in a couple of my responses to other commenters that, upon a little introspection, the reason I felt so disturbed and ‘twisted up’ and creepy crawly about this woman’s story is that she uncannily reminds me of someone I know. Lots of people like to joke that their mother in law is a terrible person, but mine is genuinely a monster. That’s who this woman reminds me of. She even looks like her. She manipulates money and actions out of everyone from family and friends to charities and actual government agencies. She has Münchausen syndrome. In addition, she physically abused my husband and his little brother until they were removed from her custody when he was 12. He had no contact with her until he was an adult. He would back away from her and then hear she was alone and broke again and feel bad and reach out. This happened a few times, but she’s now completely been cut out of his life. It’s for the best. Knowing what she had done to him, and what she continues to do to others, I hated her. Truly deeply hated her. Having had to live with these thoughts over the years, and with knowing peripherally of her continued grifting and manipulation, my hate was replaced by contempt. That contempt has somewhat cooled to pity. Yes I feel bad for the woman in the video, just like I feel bad for my husband’s mother. I find myself asking what must it be like to be them and sit alone with your thoughts? What do you think when you look in the mirror? Do you have friends? Do they know what you are? Does your word mean anything to anyone? My mother in law will die alone and in abject poverty, uncomfortable, maybe actually unwell, maybe hungry, maybe deeply regretting her actions, and with no one to sooth her self inflicted emotional pain. She deserves to. I pity her, I don’t hate her anymore. I imagine this woman will have a similar story. Deservedly alone, with no one and with nothing.
Small world! That’s nuts!
@@theirmanager5204 I was too. But she is one of those “Life is a Chessboard” entertained by others real pain. She could have easily been a donor and got involved in soooo many other ways. She chose to make herself a victim. I’m feeling like a solid Triad/Narc Dx. Would be something she’s heard many many times!
"She was a widow, a burn victim. She had an amazing story"
Yes, if you are the topic of a Dr. Grande video, you are definitely a burn victim.
This is the best video comment on this subject ever, lmfao! :D
That’s hysterical!!
Did you hear the sick joke at video spot 3:05? Nobody is commenting on it and it’s too funny to miss out on!
Good one!
lol.
Ooooh, great burn!
as a survivor of the trojan war horse scheme i can tell she’s telling the truth.
@@naomidavis1879 What? I was there and I can promise you OP was my neighbor
Was it true that Dinlaim son of tabuk got bet that he wouldn't jump out of the butt hole of the horse and it actually alerted the soldiers once as soon as he hit the ground cuz he hit so hard he s*** on himself. They said the soldiers were laughing so hard it woke up the nearby town at 22 km away. I just think of the scene with Ace Ventura comes out of the rhino butt
As a native of Pandora before meteor hit earth, I can tell this is the truth.
As the sole surviver of the epic Atlantis falling into the depths of the sea. I can vouch for her
As a survivor from the meteor she speaks the tru tru
This poor woman. As someone who survived the asteroid that wiped out the dinosaurs, I know exactly how she feels 💔
LMAO
Oh my god that’s tragic, I’m so sorry. It’s so brave for you to talk about your
*t R a u M a*
Lmaoooooo
You could make a statue laugh!
Omg pmsl thats brillant 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
When she talked about a firefighter carrying her to safety, I knew there was something wrong with her story.
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Burn🔥🔥🔥 Too punny not too😂😂😂😂
She should have said he dragged her out by the armpits and she had hit each of the rest of the stairs on the way out with a thud, to keep the air of believability.
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This woman a perfect example of why people who have real experiences some form of trauma don't get believed when they are asked.
Thank you.
@ Horror_N_M3tal- tomorrow I have my last session of radiation therapy for breast cancer. People have pretended to have breast cancer for attention. I don’t wish this shit on anybody. My ex husband argued with me that I was trying to gain attention with my ‘ fake illness ‘ It’s sad that people do this kind of stuff. Cancer is not fun. Pain, financial loss, fear of dying ,anxiety, not fun !
@@jennifermcguire8867 I’m sorry this is happening to you. I’m glad you’re on your last treatment and I hope it works, I hope you won’t have to deal with it again, I hope for remission for you.
People who pretend to have something like cancer or any disease should have to take that disease away from someone who doesn’t deserve to have it. I mean idk I don’t want anyone to have to experience such a thing. But it takes a special kind of asshole to pretend to have a serious sickness that has destroyed so many lives, just for their own sick pleasure IE sympathy comments and likes/views. It’s a real problem, I can’t believe some of the posts I come across that have a “cancersucks” hashtag or whatever the trendy one is, and the photos are so blatantly photoshopped or whatever the case may be how they’re pointed out to be a fraud.
I don’t ever want to jump to such a conclusion about a person because what if I’m wrong and they DO have cancer and here I am trying to say they’re lying, so I now just see them in videos here on YT where the creator took the time to verify it is a liar and not an actual cancer sufferer.
Yep and further stigmatizes PTSD and other conditions/mental health issues. I don't think people that lie about stuff like this realize how much they're actively affecting those actually suffering.
@ Zulema Zahir- you’re exactly right ! I happen to be a civ Army Nurse and I see the real thing every single day I work. It’s sickening people do this. I’m home from work dealing with a cancer diagnosis and my ex husband accused be of being an attention seeker. On a weird twist, his dad just died 10 days ago of pancreatic cancer. My ex refused to read my pathology diagnosis. He’s foolish. I married the village idiot, unfortunately.
I feel for this woman immensely as I survived the Black Death plague in 1347
woah thats awful dude. did you die??
I feel for you and this woman as I fought in the first crusade in 1096
@@leon-pj7ny dude you wouldn’t believe how hard I died
Bruh!!!!! You too....I survived the bubonic plague
People complaining about covid must look ridiculous to you
I feel for this lady. As a Pomeii survivor I know how it feels when people don’t believe your -attention seeking lies- survival story
XD vampire!
Gimmie that P emily
I am also a Pompeii survivor....😆😆😆😆
@@maggiewright2889 oh shit Maggie? From the hut by the bakers! I totally remember you
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I feel her too. I was on a ship during the 1883 Krakatoa Eruption. Somehow my Jedi powers protected my ears. I was literally a kilometer from the volcano. I swimmed 50 miles to the nearest island and then a UFO picked me and took to me to a hospital. I am the sole survivor of that ship. So yeah, I feel sympathy for this woman.
I wonder how many people like this have gone undiscovered throughout the ages creating mysterious anomalies for future historians.
Any time there is a disaster the scammers come out of the woodwork
She has no conscience. I could not live like that.
Good to hear that it is acceptable to question sketchy claims. Great analysis Dr. Todd!!!
My X best friend. She would tell people she’s a psychologist from Africa and posed for post parted pictures of natural women 3 yes after having her son and a tummy tuck, nose job, electrolysis, lip poof, breast implants but ya she’s so natural. At my other friends bday party she cried and made us leave early because she was drugged and raped a month ago, except she wasn’t. She also said her life was so hard because white people were racist to her and demeaned her. Also not true because when I asked her for details I remember these situations and most of the time people treated her much better than me because she is beautiful. Oh and all of my boyfriends hit on her, also not true because she was hitting on them. Ugh I could go on. Good luck to everyone dealing with manipulators.
The actor Steve Ranasizzi claimed he was a survivor for years and finally came clean when he got caught
Revictimizing World Trade Center victims is disgusting.
Did that happen though? It's like saying you are a millionaire when you aren't. It's a lie, but it doesn't hurt actual millionaires.
@@stt5v2002 It did hurt the victims in this case, though. You are trying to compare two things that are incomparable. A victim of a tragedy such as the World Trade Centre is not the same as a millionare who finds out that a buddy of theirs lied about their wealth. No comparison.
@@stt5v2002That is possibly true. From Dr. Grande’s analysis it seems that some of the victims did not feel like they were are as worthy of trauma when listening to Tanya’s story. That made me sad for them.
@@beeimaginative As someone who has an older sibling with NPD, I understand your revictimizing comment. My mom was afflicted with bi polar paranoid schizophrenia which was hurtful enough. But my sibling being a narc did everything she could do to undermine and invalidate my pain. This is their tactic to bring themselves front and center of the attention and sympathy. They need to be the greatest, and victimhood is the most common mask they like to wear. The millionaire comparison doesn't really apply since in effect she used the real victims and their pain only to invalidate their own personal struggles with the event. I'd say your thoughts have a very intuitive understanding of her wrongdoing.
@@First1it1Giveth So sorry for your difficulties and challenges with your mother and sibling. I understand from my own experience how depersonalizing it is being around a narc. I hope your mother was able to find the help she needed and that you do not have to interact with your sibling. I affirm that your pain is real and doubly so.
I really feel for this woman. My brother Cain bashed my head in with a rock so I really empathize with any victims of violent trauma.
You win... you were the earliest victim!
As a survivor of the Permian extinction, I feel for this woman, I know what it's like to lose everyone, like my pet trilobite.
😢So sorry for the loss of your beloved trilobite
You bast'rd! Now I've gotta look up to find out what a trilobite is! Is it like a pet rock?
Wow its you, you were the Trilobite whisperer, meant to visit but the alien spaceship , that abducted me crashed near Barnards star, and took a while to solar sail back to the Earth system.
Oh yeah T,ania helped those aliens with thier grief until they used the Klingon mind probe on her.
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I survive oxygenation event
She should have just written a fiction novel and called it a day. She’s like the Tolstoy of pathological liars.
LMAO!!!!!!! Omg, this is best comment EVER!!!!!! LOL!!!!!!!
She should have just self-inserted 🤷🏼♀️
She could call it Truth and Lies.
What like ? The Tales of Baron Munchausen part 2 ?
I took an ambian earlier and haven’t fallen asleep yet so I thought u meant the book should be called “a day” for like a full 5 seconds …
I feel for her! I was on the Hindenburg when it exploded. Luckily I was carefully dropped to the ground by an alien who saw how special I was and saved me for humanity. Sadly he himself evaporated in the flames and fuel. 😢
I was saved because I went on to discover the can opener...you’re welcome!
THIS COMMENT IS SOOOO UNDERRATED LOLOL 💥🔥🤣🤣
Thanks to how special you are I can now open my cans
Lol! Hindenberg. "Oh the humanity!"
Bless you for being so brave and telling your story! Lmao
You are so brave! Thank you for telling your story🙏 I was on the titanic when it sank but I used a bed frame to float to safety so I can relate
This poor woman. I, too, feel for her. When I got caught in my home in Atlantis as it sunk to the bottom of the ocean, I didn't think I'd make it out. Luckily, a pod of dolphins dislodged me from my keep as it slowly dove toward the bottom of the ocean. I held my breath for 47 minutes as they swam me underwater to safety amongst their friends. The widowed Ms. Head and I are kindred souls.
Hey Mikal Kyton,. I remember you very well from Atlantis! How have you been since I last you? By the way, when can you pay me back the sawbuck?
Hey, I've got a sump pump to get the water out of your lungs if you need it. You did beat the odds that day - an average person can only hold their breath under water for 46 minutes at a time. Whew!
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Man I understand her pain. The bubonic plague was rough. Still haven't recovered fully.
@Bayou Shaolin:. You are too funny! Hope you feel better soon!
... LOL ..
My doctor says my time is limited due to extreme nausea brought on by rabies, dandruff, a loose wisdom tooth, bladder stones, hearing loss, torn ACL and whooping cough. He gave me three months - couldn't pay my bill, gave me another 3 months. I also told him my teeth are getting yellow - he told me to wear a brown neck tie.
@@SportsBoss999 Same. You won't believe how hard I died.
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I was the victim of a violent crime when I was 11 years old. I'm not sure why, but throughout my life people have asked me about it and then implied I was exagerating or it never happened. In school kids would ask me about the scars and I would explain and they'd tell me that I was lying. I agree that it's good to be skeptical but conversations like that made me feel more isolated and strange.
Recently I was pepper sprayed by a shoplifter. The attack was completely unprovoked. Several people questioned me and I realized they were thinking I must have caused it somehow. I didn't. I was opening a door. When we question people who've been hurt by others we need to be careful and try not to add to their troubles.
I believe you and am sorry for these negative experiences that you have had.
@@guyrabinowitz That's very kind. I'm fully grown and the serious crime was many years ago. I just want to help others avoid hurting someone if they can.
@@sensiblecrime7699 May you go the rest of your life without being a crime victim again. I feel compassion for everyone, which includes you, who has had to endure a criminal act, most notably violent ones. I hope you don't have lingering psychological afflictions as a result of what you have experienced.
I believe you too. And I'm so sorry that happened to you
@@stayathomegeek You are very kind. I really am ok now but I think it's made me very sensitive to crime victims. I like to think I help people.
I think she started lying because she has low self esteem and over the years, her lies became bigger and bigger. I remember when I was in elementary school, our teacher would ask us at the beginning of every school year what we've done during the summer break. All of the other kids were talking about their amazing hollidays, the places they've visited, but my family was dirt poor and I was sitting all summer at home doing nothing. At the first year, I was being honest, and the whole class became silent and looked at me with pitty. From then on, I started making up stories about my hollidays every year. So I kind of understand how ppl start to become liars. Though, I would have never done something so extreme as her, of course.
There's a big difference with a kid lying about their holiday and an adult making up unbelievable stories. You lied to have the others to pity you. She lied to bring pity on her self. Very different.
Dear Zorro’s Dog, I had the opposite problem. Despite being a fairly boring person a number of interesting things actually did happen to me (had a pop star girlfriend, told the Prime Minister a joke which they found amusing, got kidnapped overseas, etc), but my workmates didn’t believe a word of it. Got accused of a terrible sex murder (which I didn’t commit as I was at work at the time), and had to my embarrassment homicide detectives swarm all over my workplace. It caused something of a sensation. After that no matter what I said it was either believed or accepted as a matter of fact. It occurred to me I could have said I played Chinese chess with President Xi Jinping and probably got away with it. *
* They never caught the murderer but police claimed the offender was a near genius, this amused my workmates no end for this was something I’ve never been accused of.
@CRAM MARC Thanks for your sympathy on this and kind words. I did learn that one didn’t have to do anything to become a criminal suspect. In my case my then girlfriend’s little (adult) sister just happened to look a bit like the victim who had been kidnapped. That plus a $1 million dollar reward got my neighbours a bit excited. When the dust settled and things got back to normal it did give me something to talk about at parties. And surprisingly it actually improved my social life.
@@xminusone1 Yes, I know our stories are very different. I just wanted to say that lying can become a downward spiral. It starts with smaller things like lying about a holliday, then you lie about a job, then you lie about your past.. And one day you've reached the point where you just lie people straight into the face like it is nothing. I've been there. It's scary. Well, I'm not a psychologist, so I have no idea if this happened to her too, but I think it could be an explanation.
Why would they look at you with pity. Most the kids in my areas stay for summer and we all hang out.
As a survivor of the 2012 end of the world , I feel this woman deserves more sympathy for the tragedy she went through
Mandela effect.we are now 80000 light years away from where we were in the Milky Way.
I know how this woman feels, I just barely escaped Alderaan as the Death Star was preparing its laser.
You got out just in time! I wasn't so lucky when Airplane! crash landed with Leslie Neilsen on board. I'm still stuck in the luggage compartment!
I grew up with a narcissistic mother. Sometimes i see ( i would say probably mild) traits of narcissism in myself. Eg this video made me think of times i have had urges to exaggerate something for attention (nothing to the extreme of this video). Sometimes saying outrageous things or exaggerating was the only way i would recieve attention or validation growing up. The sheer terror of thought of turning out like my mother is what keeps me moving forward in life in my attempt to keep becoming more healthy.
If you’re used to being ignored, hyperbole becomes natural.
Proud of you 😊 It takes a lot to recognize those behaviors in yourself and seek to fix them.
You're 99% there hun. The fact that you can recognise *and* admit it to yourself is the biggest part of the battle.
I think you're awesome. God bless.
I was raised by narcissistic parents, too. I can totally relate. A real narcissist would never ever admit there is something wrong with them. You are doing great. I hope you realize that. Take care.
@@cookie_dough_hangover yawn. Literally EVERY white female claims to either have a narcissistic parent or a narcissistic ex. You guys use that word WAY too much 🤣🤣🤣
If you want to tell lies, you have to have a very good memory.
Judge Judy said that a LOT.
I ♥️ Judge Judy!
@@90secondsuntilmidnight
Same except I just have a really shitty brain and I'm bad at lying lol
Mark Twain said "An honest man doesn't need to remember what he said"
That’s why I always tell the truth ! You never know when Alzheimer’s will strike and then you are busted !
Or at least rehearse your story over and over 🤣
As a survivor of Napoleon’s retreat from Russia this woman deserves the Nobel Peace Prize so I am nominating her.
I feel for her, as a survivor of the 1666 Great Fire of London, I now understand how challenging life can be.
At least you didn't get 5 different kinds of diseases when having sex with a prostitute. I was ok until my doctor told me that I have an upset stomach. He's given me 3 months to live.
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9/11
This is one of the rare cases that is so messed up that the Doctor didn’t make a single dry witted joke the whole way. And if there was ever a more deserving target, it’s this creature.
LOL!!!!!....it's this creature...lmao...priceless!!!
there is at least one witticism, intended or not. In the next sentence after saying the assistant was decapitated the doctor calls her “head”.
This "creature" is all too human. Only a member of our own species would do something like this, really.
@@darlenemonroe3559 LOL!!!!!
Her story had so many gags in it already.
God imagine going through something so traumatic, developing PTSD, and reliving the nightmare for years because you are too scared to get help. Finally something snaps, and you go seek treatment. All is going well and you finally get the courage to go meet other survivors, AND THIS WOMAN comes out of nowhere and makes you feel like your experience was insignificant.
As someone with PTSD, it makes me sick when people try to undermine what happened to me or tell me that “they had it worse”. And this woman has the gall to do this to 9/11 victims.
I have PTSD from my experience as a Rescue Technician/Firefighter, it is sad when people make up shit to gain sympathy. I have worked on seeking help for awhile now, and stories like this clown just make me sad. Not mad. Sad that anyone would use a tragedy such as 9/11 for clout.
As someone with PTSD that's, this burns me up too.
Agree 100%. I have c-ptsd. This woman is straight up certifiable.
Same. But I do undermine what happened to me because I don't like to feel like a victim
@@FockCopyrights exactly, take power over it and don’t let it become what defines you.
I genuinely feel for this woman... I was on the RMS Titanic during her maiden voyage and then on the Hindenburg on May 6 1937... OH THE HUMANITY !! I'm just greatful to be here today !
I was the neighbor by lizzie borden, I heard the screams but didnt wanna be bothered, my lemonade took precedence
Violet Jessop who survived Titanic and the disasters of Titanic’s sister ships is giving you major side eye rn 🙄
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I can relate with this woman's hardships. I was on Pompeii when it was deviated by the volcanic eruption. I suffered sever burns from the pyroclastic flow and being burried under feet of volcanic ash for years was very lonely as well so I understand her feeling of loneliness and isolation.
I feel for her too. I was a survivor of the 1883 Krakatoa Eruption. Nearly got deaf but Jedi powers protected me.
Mt Vesuvius was poppin that day. I was that guy in the back covered in ash
Ahhh yes, I remember when Pompeii was deviated by lava.
@@philliesfan3414 what of it?
@Blaine Berkowitzoh I was there. I was the guy bent over kissing his ass good bye.
I remember the documentary about her, called The Woman Who Wasn’t There. Was really well made and interesting.
Great doc...was hard to believe someone could lie like that with so much going for her.
I saw it here on RUclips and it had me on the edge of my seat.
It was very good. I remember ESPN even did a story about her when she was saying “The Man in the Red Bandana” had saved her. I’d like to say something wasn’t right, or whatever. But I totally believed it at the time.
I remember watching it and was annoyed with her deceit. The saddest part for me is how she affected other survivors despite lying about what was supposed to be a shared experience.
Yes it’s on tubi right now
One’s pain doesn’t have to be tied to a large-scale to be valid. I’d think having your arm severed in an accident is traumatic enough in and of itself.
Yeah she clearly use the pain from that event to bring emotion into her fake story.
why, do you speak out of experience?
I agree. It's terrible getting into a competition about who has suffered the most. Everyone deserves empathy for what they've been through. Obviously, they don't deserve it for things they didn't go through. I had a friend lie about having cancer and all kinds of stuff, and she had also been in a terrible accident in the past and I thought maybe she got addicted to the sympathy.
Feelings are feelings; they are not about "right and wrong" (With specific exceptions)
All of our feelings are valid and matter
Right! Imagine Kanye West embellishing his car accident causing his jaw to be wired shut to be he was at 9/11. For album sales!!!!!
I was just 26 when the building collapsed. it was my first day at work. Still a fresh graduate, it's a simpler time.
I came in early that day but thank god, I got out in time.
I could see that the top of the tower was on fire.
Most people didn't believe my story. Some even laughed at my face. they couldn't possibly even fathom the trauma of surviving the tower of babel. That's why I feel for this woman. Thoughts and prayers to all those affected.
As Nero's violin teacher, I feel great empathy for this woman
despicable and such an insult to real survivors of that horrendous attack.
How did it "insult" them?
@@withgoddess8029 I think he meant that she(the fraud) insulted real victims by lying
@@withgoddess8029She insulted them by leveraging her false story to alienate and replace actual 9/11 survivors in the group for sympathy. Not to mention that she deliberately created an extremely dramatic story involving decapitation, burning flesh and choking on noxious fumes which would surely dredge up real traumatic memories for those who were actually there. By taking center stage she took a spot that actually could’ve highlighted the real tragedy of that day and recognized the survivors for their struggle and perseverance.
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This whole story is so maddening and bizarre to me. I was actually there in downtown NYC on 9/11/01, and I've always loved what Kurt Vonnegut said about people who have witnessed and experienced horrific things: the people who were there don't talk about it, and the only people who brag about being in war are the ones who haven't seen it.
I'm no hero- I just happened to be in a place & time where something unimaginably horrific occured. It's nothing to brag about...in fact, I'd give just about anything to have NOT been there and seen things which are now branded into my memory. I only talk about my experience on 9/11 to close friends, family...and of course my therapist. It's sick to think someone might use experiences like mine to build a false narrative, let alone profit from the ongoing pain of people like me. Ugh!
I agree 100%. I was in building 6 on 9/11/01, quite close to the ground. Got out quickly, and saw the second plane hit from several blocks away. Like you said I seldom bring it up. I never joined a survivors organization.
Tyfys
Congrats
crazy thing is, she actually never profited from any of her lies and she did a lot to bring in money and awareness for survivor groups. the only things she ever gained were attention and praise, which seemed to be what she wanted moreso than money. so pitiable. i’m sorry for what you went through and i hope you’re doing better now!
@Brandon Bernard they are talking about it because that is literally the topic of discussion here. They're not going into detail, simply saying they saw horrific things.
If you don't believe them then say nothing. Scroll on. Your comment isn't necessary or wanted. If they really are survivors (which I believe they are, there are thousands of them) then your comment telling them how they should behave, In your opinion) is hurtful and cruel. There is no guidebook on how people should behave/speak/act after witnessing and surviving something like this. Don't dictate how someone should act, that's not your place.
Yes, this woman deserves way more compassion than what people are giving her. In October 1987, me and my friend Jessica fell down a well in Midland Texas. We were trapped down there for almost 3 days. It was horrible. Fortunately, I was able to keep her spirits up and it was really me that was responsible for BOTH of our survival. Prayers
Wait, what happened? As a survivor of The Thanos Snap, I have missed a few years and haven't caught up to recent news.
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Rip Van Winkle will get you up to date on current events. I wasn't so lucky when my brother farted right in my face and I had to go to the hospital. My sense of smell has never been the same. I have to spray all my food with Lysol now.
When I watched the documentary my heart broke for the survivors she gaslighted into thinking their stories were less worthy than hers, is super shocking how she got away for so long too because her claims are not that hard to verify.
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There were so many red flags in her various stories that she should have been exposed much earlier.
Information was amazingly different in 2005, but still- i totally agree
Thank you for discussing this woman. I saw the documentary about her, and was stunned when I saw how she purposefully used and manipulated people. At one point, she claimed that a young man (with a red bandanna) helped her as she tried to escape. He didn’t make it out, but she did. She even went so far as to meet with the young man’s mother, and share their encounter. It was such a cruel thing to do to that mother. It came out that she had lied to that grieving mother about her son. I don’t understand any of that. Such cruelty and such manipulation…and then the fallout afterwards. Narcissism has a profoundly evil element to it.
The man with the red bandanna.
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I also feel for this person and can totally relate...I was one of a few survivors aboard the STAR Trek Enterprise, while many died heroic deaths, while in fierce battles with alien trespassers, I myself survived...Thankyou for listening...
As a survivor of eating 4 bean burritos I can relate with this woman's terrible experience and god bless the people behind me for surviving as well .
I'm so sorry you had to endure that horrific experience. Burritos can be devastatingly stomach-churning.
@@SportsBoss999 Thank you for understanding, so many of us go thru this ordeal which can be silent but deadly. Let us not forget all of our fallen midget brethren whom suffered and suffocated from this .
Yesterday, upon the stair, I met a man who wasn't there. He wasn't there again today, I wish, I wish he'd go away.
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I love that poem, so happy that someone else knows Hughes Mearns work
My grandmother used to say that all the time. This is the first time I've heard this again in forty years. ☺️
When I came home last night at three.
The man was waiting there for me.
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It's interesting that as time went on, it wasn't enough that she and Dave were engaged. They had to be MARRIED. It wasn't enough for her to be merely rescued. She had to be rescued by the Man With the Red Bandanna! Dr. Grande is right. Lord knows what she would have gone on to invent if she hadn't been caught out.
My sister tells tales that need to get bigger over time because they no longer sound fantastic enough to her.
(ie: her husband was selling computer hardware and making 20% of the gross profit, then it was 40%, soon enough, 50%...and the sales bill increased every few days....finally, they were going to pay cash for their new house with this one transaction....when hubby took off and she lost the house, she claimed that i was crazy and making up stories when I asked about the "fact" that they owned the house outright....she even told people that she was worried about my sanity.
@@leanie5234 any other juicy shameful family secrets? I mean this would be the appropriate place to divulge such information
Willing to bet she would’ve eventually been hit by/been on the plane
She would have become US president, then start WW3.
Not just married but “MAUI-D”! 🤮
I remember Krakatoa blowing,looking up from the foot of that great mount. Lost consciousness for 30 mins. I'm fine now. Thank you.
Hmm how old did you say you were 😂
I think you were a little harsh on her. As someone who barely survived the Great Toilet Paper Famine of 2020, I can empathize.
God I remember that had to cut up some shirts for toilet paper
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@@jesusislord229 hey when you’ve got no toilet paper you gotta make sacrifices
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@@leehenderson342 what kind of face is that?
I haven't thought of this woman in a couple years. I find it absolutely vile that she used a terrorist attack that killed thousands as a way to get attention. She made up all these fantasies and people. It's hard to think about the damage she did to actual survivors.
The devil is in the details. If she had remained just vague enough, God knows if she would have been found out. But she needed to be EXTRA special.
Yeah especially that close friend in the group…. Asked her to listen to her flooding exercises, and then got emotionally abusive when this woman said it was re-traumatizing her (an ACTUAL survivor.).
Dr Grande "not diagnosing but only speculating" is the best part of the day in a "situation like this" !!!
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Haha Well done, well done!
I deeply feel for Ms Head, at age 18 back when I was a soldier at Little Bighorn, I watched everyone in the 7th Calvary killed by the Sioux, I barely made it out and Ive been in hiding ever since. It’s the painful memories of the slain that I have a rough time with, I’m 163 years old this year, and slowing down now... sure miss my friends and have never gotten over their loss.
Honestly, you look good for your age. I contracted Benjamin Button disease, and I'm now negative 104 years old. So, you've got 267 years on me..
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You know, I survived a musket shot straight to the head in the Mexican-American war. I feel exactly how this woman feels...
I was one of the survivors of Pickett's Charge. Stay strong, brother. We'll get through this together
You had it easy, buttercup. When my time machine malfunctioned as I was trying to go back to the Roman Empire, I ended up being crystalized as the statue in front of Ceasars Palace in Las Vegas!
In my experience the people that have truly suffered severe trauma don’t like to talk about it. Talk to old former POWs, adults who survived horrific childhoods, and the like and they’re generally not keen on discussing their experience. It’s not a “bragging point” or Red Badge of Courage for them. It’s simply a traumatic experience that they struggled to survive and they’ve now put it behind them.
People like the woman in this story are no better than those Stolen Valor creeps who falsely claim veteran status.
Truth.
My dad was a POW, and they Dont like liars that claim they were.
They dont talk much about it,
AND many suffer greatly from 'survivors guilt,' which is a mental torture of constantly questioning why you survived when so many others died.
Yeah, definitely not volunteering anything unless it helps to talk about it when ready to. Going back hurts.
I talk about my experience at the WTC on 9/11 mostly with my students, as I do a little memorial each year on the date. It is mainly to keep the event alive in their memory as Pearl Harbor was when I was young, and also as a way to release some of the emotions that come back up every year at this time. I certainly don't brag about it, or look at it as a positive of any kind. But I cannot ignore or forget what I experienced.
Absolutely true. I'm a victim of three kinds of abuse one as a child and two as an adult and I can talk about them in a safe environment (family members, mental health professionals) but I feel I wouldn't be able to do it the way this woman did. Sometimes the most insignificant feedback can trigger painful memories or change your mood. Even when I believe I had to use my voice to encourage other victims and went commenting in some youtube videos about my trauma and found that mean comments triggered me so I stopped. So, yeah… if a person seems this ok about sharing that much it's definitely fishy.
I hate it when people ask me about The First Gulf War. Absolutly hate it. I was in the Army at the wrong place and time is all and am definately no Hero. I´ve never asked for any, as an acquaintance and former Comrad of mine says, "Goodies" from the Government.
She was playing with high stakes. Play a character whose validity was protected by questions you're not supposed to ask. The thrill of having your fabricated persona "work" in the real world isn't worth it when you start getting bored of it yourself.
Well said!!
Maybe thats why her story kept getting more & more dramatic she was getting bored?
This is so easy for you all to laugh at. This woman went through REAL trauma. As someone who barely survived the Titanic, I know how she feels. I hope none of you have to live what she and I do every day.
Scroll down. Your fellow Titanic survivors somewhat agree
@@qckndrty1 Not a Titanic survivor but as a survivor of the 1883 Krakatoa Eruption (I was 120 years old at the time), I feel for her too.
@@mahrizhossain4308 you survived that s***? I never knew anyone survived that! Hope them old bones are feeling well these days
You survived? That's the good news. The bad news? You still owe 18 cents for that round trip ticket. Converted to today's dollars, you owe White Star Line just over $ 45,750. Pay up.
I feel this woman's pain. I myself was a survivor of the sinking of the Titanic, a tragedy in which I lost the love of my life when he sacrificed himself so that I could stay out of the icy waters of the Atlantic and he died of hypothermia while I survived after being picked up by an only partial filled lifeboat. I'll never let you go, Jack.
There needs to be more empathy for those who have experienced tragedy and loss.
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I wish wholeheartedly, RUclips comments are as whimmy as yours are. I also hope you’re a comedian behind an “just your everyday RUclips channel/person” doing this on purpose.
@@jonathanfreytusfreitas No, I have a normal job as a mid-level manager. The last staff meeting I led did conclude with 20 minutes of laughter about coloured pencils, however. One woman laughed so hard about coloured pencils that she cried.
I have seen the documentary and it was infuriating. I live in south eastern pa and when 9/11 happened my husband's best friend (a firefighter) went to NY and helped. He saw horrible things. Sadly in 2003 he passed away by his own doing. He never got over it. So so many people suffered in so many ways after 9/11. I really wish she was held accountable in some way. Thanks for the great video!
I'm so sorry for your loss, may his story live on
I remember excerpts of a novel where a mother and teen daughter shared how they both got PTSD from being in the vicinity of WTC on 911. I think a lot of people genuinely did. I actually roughly remember that a year after it happened and a relative had to fly to the US, I was very worried but nothing bad happened in the end.
Dr. Grande I’m a mom, I work full time and I’m a student. I love documentaries and true crime.Your condensed versions of these stories are very much appreciated.
I LOVE Dr. Grande's videos. You should also check out True Crime Brewery, if you haven't already. Addictive!
As a survivor of the great flood and part of noah’s crew, i feel for her.
What this woman has gone through is unbelievable. I too had skin melting burns in the Great Chicago fire that took so many lives. Such an inspiration this woman is.
The bit about her manipulating so that doubts were cast on another candidate for presidency of the network is quite significant: presumably that person was a genuine survivor to whom she probably caused distress and hurt. It shows how morally corrupt she is that she would bring harm to an actual WTC survivor in order to achieve her goals.
Also, such people are usually very reserved/timid until they get power/attention, then overnight they reveal their true inner tyrant. This is why it could take others around them by surprise
People keep surprising me on how down right insulting they can be to tragic events.
As someone who was at Yellowstone when it erupted about 640,000 years ago, I feel for this woman.
On a serious note, I saw that documentary, and it really floored me. The interviews with some of the people Head connected with showed a range of reactions - from disbelief, to feeling sorry for her, to being angry with her. The depth of pain and suffering these unfortunate people experienced on 9/11 was awful. But to have someone lie right to their face about being "one of them" has to infuriate those who experienced such devastation for real. Doctor, I think your analysis was spot on. I'm glad I discovered your channel, and I'm subscribing right now. Well done video.
I feel so sorry for her. I know what it's like. I was in France in October of 1793. I was put in a guillotine and beheaded next to Marie Antoinette. After they executed us, I barely got out with the help of Batman and the ghost of Joan of Arc.
I rode the lochness monster to russia and was just seconds behind the death of the czar and then to make money I built the sphinx
I made it thru something similar. I survived having my head chopped off on stage at a David Copperfield show. I'm starting a survivor's group called "That's Using Your Head!" Wanna join?
She claimed a fireman carried her out of the building. That's not a one person job.
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I kept waiting for him to make a reference to that. I guess he decided to go for the moral high ground on this one.
*bruh reacts.
Actually, using the Fireman's carry, if done properly, even an avg size woman like myself, can carry a large man a reasonable distance
Never underestimate firefighters
I really emphasise with her, she must have gone through so much. As someone who survived the asteroid impact that wiped out the dinosaurs, I understand what she went through.
I feel for her, as a survivor of the great fire of london i can tell what intense trauma she's gone through
They lies themselves are terrible but the fact that she won't apologize even now is inexplicable.......the cat is out of the bag & the damage is done but she still is unwilling to be held accountable. The fact that she returned to NYC after being exposed is possibly the most shocking part imo, it's like she really thinks that there will never be any comeuppance for her manipulation and deception so she can just go on like she did nothing wrong, it's disturbing.
Well said.
She comes from wealth
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So?
My families on both sides were once wealthy also, before losing it all thanks to world events, yet no one in my family today is a hideous lying loser.
maybe she believes it herself? a lot of people develop that to cope with other traumas
who needs her fake apologies, really
She may include this in her new story: "Then I had a flaming relationship with Dr. Grande... a cute man! Really my type."
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This literally made me snortlaugh
I have had a great number of traumatic experiences in my life, but when I share those experiences, I do get accused of lying and/or making up the stories, or embellishing a lot. It has gotten to the point I have to make a list of names and phone numbers of witnesses for the accusers to contact. And then we have people like this woman who make it even more difficult for those of us with true life experiences.
What you said about skepticism and how false stories take away from the legitimate experiences of real victims is so true. No one should be above scrutiny, but unfortunately certain movements in today's culture blatantly ignore that and just saying what you said could get you cancelled.
When my father was young, he used to collect war stories from Korean, Vietnam and wwii vets. My dad thinks of himself as sort of a time capsule, the only person who knew these men and their stories, a way for them to express their pain.
Because of that, he’s gone out of his way to point out stolen valor(“you there on d day?these were the troops that landed on the beach, what division were you, platoon, etc”type of questions) He’s not a vet, he’s never served, but hearing all those stories, especially when he was young, seriously impacted him, even to this day. He’s never wanted to be a war hero, or serve, because of the horrifying stories he’s collected, but he’s damn sure to pay his respects every time he talks about the old men.
I personally don’t remember anything from 9/11 other than my parents were stuck in a court house paying a traffic ticket, but I can’t imagine the suffering this woman must have caused for the survivors who tried to tell their stories, only to be over looked by a pathological liar
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Ugh some of this sounds like my ex. I recently had to get out of a 3 year relationship after finding out the many many MANY lies she told over the year. It was such a deep rabbit hole that seems like it started way back in 2006. She was in 6th grade when this shit started and she kept it up for yeeeeears. It was so hard to come to terms with the fact that this person who I trusted more than anyone had lied about almost everything in our relationship. Honestly I'm surprised I'm doing well now. I don't feel hatred for her, just complete apathy. The person I thought I loved never existed. I still can't wrap my head around it..
It's a TOTAL mind f*ck when you find out something like that. Glad you are doing well.
@@cacu3989 thank you, I really appreciate it. It took me so long to accept it. I initially found out about smaller lies and she explained them away. Always had an excuse. I was naive and didn't want to lose her so I just accepted it. But the tipping point was just too much.
@@devaunbeats I’ve had this exact thing happen to me a few years back. I know how you feel, it’s world shattering coming to the realization that someone lied about every single thing you were ever told by them. I hope you continue to heal.
@@SoulsOfHeavenSent I appreciate the kind words! I rarely think about her now and honestly I'm happier now than I was when I was with her.
I'm sorry you had to go through that. It's very hard to trust again when the one you love turns out to have been lying about a lot of things.
Hey this is Dr Grande and the excitement is ripping me apart at the seams. I cannot control it.
This man has a very calm soothing voice. Exactly the thing you want in the medical field
This is the first time I've seen him but after checking the channel I decided to subscribe.
He does have a soothing voice. Fyi, he's not a medical doctor, he has a Ph.D. in counseling.
@@dogtrainer4645 thanks for the clarification. Even better to have a soothing voice in counseling
They should’ve known she was lying when she said she was carried out
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You're terrible Muriel..😂
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I was thinking the same thing. Dude must have been strong! Lmfao
The first time I ever saw this woman on TV, it was immediately obvious that she was lying because she isn't burned. A person who really experienced what she said she did, would be covered from head to toe with burns and their face would be severely disfigured by it. Her face looks totally fine. How the hell could anyone not know she was lying? I mean, she did say that she had some burns, and I don't know if she wore compression bandages or anything, but she also said that she was high up near the impact zone, right in the middle of the fire. There's no way a person could survive that without visible burns to their face. If she was really there, she would've needed a face transplant and probably gotten one eventually. Didn't anyone wonder why she wasn't burned in more places besides just her arm and back?
one lie she told was that the man in the red bandana helped put out the fire on her back. and her arm had skin grafts from her accident, I think she tried to say it was burns 🤷♀️ but yeah very minimal damage
Poor woman. I feel for her. I was in Chernobyl when the reactor exploded and im still recovering from it.
As a survivor of the burning of the library of Alexandria, I am DISGUSTED that this woman would trivialize such a traumatic experience!
I am a burn victim and I can’t believe she would do that and make up something so awful! She insults the people that were there.
Oh my God. Burn victim? That has to be one of the most traumatic and painful experiences anyone could endure. Hope you're ok now.
"I'm not diagnosing anyone in this video, but dammit I want to sooooo bad!" -Dr. Grande's Thoughts
hes being responsible, like a good person. if i was him, id just be saying shit cuz i could.
I feel for her. I was in a saiyan space pod leaving Vegeta just as Frieza blew it to pieces. Scariest moment of my life.
Hey, I had to survive the brain cramp I just got trying to figure out that obscure reference you made. I'm more confused now than when I went to see the movie Momento.
@@SportsBoss999 Dragon ball Z reference.
I didn't know what to expect when I clicked on this as I'm not even close to psychology and I certainly did not expect a professionally thought through analysis by an actual Dr., but I highly enjoyed these insights. It improved my own capability of analyzing people. Thank you for your time and effort
There is a family history of scamming here. A definite personality defect.
How so? I never heard about her family.
@@2Ryled The talk starts off with a mentioning her fathers malfeasance.
@@2Ryled you even watch the video ?
@CRAM MARC Read "The Name of the Wind" it crops up quite regularly
Monkey see monkey do
"I walked through blood and bones that day searching for my brother. He was in northern Canada."
- Norm MacDonald
Hahaha I thought the exact same thing
Great job remembering that joke! Norm was the funniest person on the planet!
Dr. Grande, I love how you bring current events up to me, summarize them and then provide an intelligent analysis. Thank you for your consistent content and soothing voice.
I truly don’t understand why people want so much recognition. Amazing job.
Dr. Grande, can you cover the story of Timothy Poe, a contestant on America’s got talent? He lied and claimed to be an injured war hero with a stutter, and when he was caught he did an interview where he broke down and admitted the truth. It would be interesting to see another opinion piece on people who claim to be heroes:
If someones claiming to be a hero you already know its a lie.
This story is sad but it does suprise me. It feels like to suceed on any of those shows you need to have some kind of sad story.
Steve Rannazisi (comedian) also lied about being a 9/11 victim. Cover him too!
The moment you start lying about things that are routinely documented is the moment you’ve set up your own downfall
Came here after a That Chapter recommendation, this channel is freaking great! Thanks Dr.Grande!
So glad you’re covering this. The worst part for me was her belittling other genuine survivors for not suffering as much as her
When I watched this documentary and knew nothing of the story several things struck me. 1. She was way too light hearted for somebody who had experienced a serious trauma 2. As somebody who has lived in Spain and mastered a second language it was AMAZING how well she spoke English with a barely detectable accent without having lived in the US
The final part of this video is the most important. Society today is afraid to ask hard questions.
Because nobody can offend anyone no matter what
You know one of things that amazed me about is that she had to do research to create her story. She had to claim that she was in the south tower because the north tower was hit first. Even as an American this would be something I would have to look up. She has to do research to make it make more sense. There was planning involved. Very sad, hopefully she got help.
Great insight offered by the doctor. Thanks for a great, no-nonsense video.
THAT is the kind of journalism we need as far as VERIFYING claims made by 'heroes.' How many other phonies are out there, in all fields, only waiting for exposure ??
Hi Dr Grande, I saw this requested more than once. You’re so special and responsive to your audience.
Agreed!
I watched the documentary too. It’s hard to describe how extremely damaging she was to the survivors. She put several of them through additional… well, trauma.
This is my favorite thread ever...us survivors are finally coming together. And we will survive narcicistic killers because of dr grande..and i heard he survived falling out of a plane without a parachute! He landed on a big bush named George!