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She said a bunch of nothing. As an educated, 6 figure woman myself, married to a high valued man - I will say this… Kevin is 100% accurate. If women are presented the opportunity to work or stay home most women will decide to stay home to raise their children, myself included. I’m so blessed to be married to a man that earns a high salary which allows me to be present & more attentive to our children. My value & worth doesn’t come from a college degree, working, being a high earner etc. I love being present for my husband & our children. My husband creates the financial stability, I provide emotional stability. It works! I love taking my children to & from school, cooking breakfast & dinner, being present for all extracurricular activities, being emotionally stable & available for my husband. Our home is peaceful, calm, warm, loving & inviting mainly because I am present. I don’t feel the need to take over multiple roles in my marriage, more specifically his role. I don’t feel the need to compete with my husband. My husband and I have an inside joke, I tell him, ‘I’m meant to be rich & kept’ lol. he loves being the provider, it gives him a sense of purpose, motivation, makes him feel like a man. I love being the parent that provides the peace & warmth in our home. I recently stopped working my 6 figure business to work from home, with a more flexible schedule, allows me to have more peace, better stability for our children & that aligns with my families core values. We’ve always had a fun, loving, healthy family dynamic, but since making this transition I am more at peace with myself. Growing up my mom was the provider (modern woman mindset) so I subconsciously took on some of those masculine traits. My husband is the one
To help me break that vicious masculine cycle. He have always told me, the value I add to our family is more valuable than money. Our children need me, he needs me. As a woman, knowing I don’t HAVE to work, reduces so many stressors in my life. I’m not angry, resentful, I’m not tired or over worked, my home is clean, warm, inviting, I don’t have piles of laundry because I’m too busy ‘working’. I’m at peace - i have time to myself, I am available to my husband & our children. Ladies, don’t feel like you have to achieve something beyond yourselves. Work on your mental health, recreate your subconscious mind, learn how to be a feminine poised woman. Cancel hustle culture- it’s a masculine trait. Take pride in being available for your children & spouse, there’s nothing wrong with that! Being a submissive wife is NOT BAD. Allow the man to take the lead, as you’re delicate & shouldn’t be compromised . I promise your marriage will thrive in every way possible! My husband and I have been married since 19 years old, that’s 12 years of Marriage thus far. It just gets better every year.
Beautifully said.
So you’re a 6 figure earning stay at home mom? Yes I want that also please 🙋🏾♀️
wow,God bless...
@@lilmizzgirl16 yes I have partners that work for me. I take 30% commissions from their sales. Passive income
@@todayh5072 same reason you have time to read.
She’s purposely in denial about MOST women. Most women want options to work if they choose. Men don’t get that option. And when women WANT to work it’s the white collar “shaking hands, doing deals six figure unlimited PTO” jobs it’s not the jobs where you’re running the cities sewer system, or loading in a truck going to restore power after a natural disaster jobs. Both career paths pay relatively the same.
Exactly why our society is going extinct. Enjoy the decline
Yes, it's the Cinderella Complex.
BIG FACTS
Fukn Faaacccttts👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿We all know this
@@fgcpeak9591 💯 me too I sometimes stare off in the distance and dream of the 90’s when I was a kid/teen 😂 shit is too far gone
This lady made this conversation way more difficult than it needed to be.
tru shit
No matter what Kevin asked she was not going to answer his questions. She was all in her imagination. She came to win an argument opposed to having a conversation.
She's polite but she's offended by men having actual opinions, she's listened only to disagree
But in the end, she admitted that" I learned something."
@@Jacko2009100 Again she's polite...She got to practice combating conversations she doesn't agree with, that's it.
she's a grannie in the modern dateing world, who gives a shit. shes post wall
And still lost
"I don't find this conversation productive because I don't feel personally inspired by it." Conversations and debates aren't about making you feel better or inspired, they are about confronting different view points and potentially learning something from it.
It was a waste
Word!
Oh look.. a woman's unrealistic expectation... every conversation has to be a source of inspiration or it just isn't good enough.. 😆
Amen! 🙏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Ya that line had me looking confused like are you having a discussion or did you think you were on a roller coaster or watching a funny movie?
She proves women hear things differently than what we as men are saying
100% she want to be right even if she’s wrong.
No, she heard what she WANTED to hear in order to be a contrarian and create an argument or debate where there was none.
She as all of us knows good and dang well, that the majority of men and women fall into Kevin’s stated categories. Whether in Washington, DC or Spokane, WA.
Goes both ways. But she definitely loves to hear herself talk and to be agreed with. She doesn't care what he has to say.
This is why I love teaching engineering. I don't have to deal with students who think their ideologies based on "feelings" reflect reality because numbers don't care about your feelings.
Life don't care about your feelings. I tell people we live in a world were adults fondle children, new born gazelles whom haven't even taken it's first steps end up lion food. We best align with reality instead of wanting fantasy to be reality.
True. Many ladies hate numbers for that reason alone.
@@blackcnn4929 Many universities offer full-ride scholarships to female students in engineering; moreover, we lowered the admission requirements specifically for female engineering students via Affirmative Action. However, we still have trouble attracting female students. The fact is that most female students just don't find STEM degrees attractive, but they turn around and say toxic patriarchy is keeping women from STEM. No one is keeping women from studying STEM. They are the ones making conscious choices to get useless gender studies degrees. However, facts are irrelevant to them because their feelings dictate their perception of reality.
Just wait, feminism is already on its way into stem.
Not yet. Give it a few years
My GrandFather Was Born In 1917....My Grandmother In 1922.
They Would Listen To This Woman And Both Would Proclaim, "Young Woman, You're Educated Beyond Your Intelligence!"
😂🤣😅
BOOM! 💥💥💥
lol most educated doesnt equal most intelligence
What the f is this woman talking like u have to go to college to understand about sex 😂😂
in other words she's an educated fool
I miss Kevin so bad! Shan is so disconnected from the average person, she surrounds herself with people like her.
“I don’t feel this conversation is productive because I don’t feel inspired” is a pretty insane way to judge the productivity of a conversation. Part of life is understanding and accepting uncomfortable truths.
Right exactly but that is part of one the most major differences between men and women. Men generally are rooted in logic and ok with being uncomfortable to a degree with a conversation just as long as their coming to a logical conclusion. And women have to be inspired and excited and feel good about the conversation if they can't do that in every conversation then it is automatically a bad one.
this is why when it’s just the guys in a room an a gal comes in the vibe an energy an dynamic changes instantly. if you read the room there’s a shift in the air cuz there’s a tension that wasn’t there before if the guys are friends…it’s why we instantly got our filters up an despite what they say about wanting the raw uncut truth you can’t give it to em most can’t take it… this goes double if you want the 🐈 you got to try to be honest without giving em too much cuz they’re like stray cats do too much an they’ll run an catching them will be next to impossible naw you got to try just enuff but not too much that it’s don’t come off desperate.. can’t never keep it a stack with a chick if you want the buttcheeks. an if you do they try to change you
Mama always said.... If you aint got nothing nice to say, say nothing at all! The total disregard, disrecpect and posturing with that comment 😳👏
All about feels before reals. Emotion over logic. Men gotta know better than to fall for that stuff.
Like you missing the context of the statement made.
She's no different from any other "I'm a PHD". She was listening to respond instead of listening to understand; that's why she completely missed the example he gave about 2 middle class people coming together and making things work. I wish she had come on HIS show as a guest so he could have really read her-her rights with facts, data, and statistics, but of course being a guest on her show he had to show her the same respect he ask people to give him when they come on his platform. I'm not going to waste my time going to see her content, but from this interview I can tell she's part of the problem. KS have the patience of a saint.
Salute. Very observant
Yep.
There’s also a lot of masculine energy coming from her😔
💯
Yup yup yup
The first thing I get from this woman is she loves to hear herself talk, and secondly she’s not in it to learn anything because obviously she knows it all already 😏
She's masculine; trying to put on a deep voice, and talking about stay-at-home men. She's way worse than the women Kevin talks to everyday.
I dont think you like women talking at all. This woman is intelligent
Yes she thinks she knows it all
@@therealme6528 she knows how to articulate bulshit
Runotit..You're so right. She wants to convince Kevin that men and women are equal..she said you lead Monday and I'll lead Tuesday 😂😂😂😂modern women..smh
This is too frustrating to watch lol. She’s deflecting every tough question.
“What percentage of women of marrying age would want a stay at home dad?”
“Uhhh…Well we have to change our definition of masculinity!!!!”
😂
That's the feminist ideology talking 😞 it would be nice if she could answer a question without the deflector shield 😂
Once KS started push'n back on what she was saying and flexing his own opinion. She felt the need to start cutting him off in the middle of what he was saying and did it multiple times. Showed her weakness in her convo skills.
I noticed that too. But once he came with facts, she stayed shut. She definitely wasn't ready
I knew I wasn’t the only one 💯
Exactly! Bro every single damn woman that starts off sounding smart will ALWAYS eventually fall back to this b.s.
@@albertorynda740 Mostly they do
It works, on 'lower status males', so that's why she will only tolerate them.
Necessarily so.
She has done well to secure her position.
My personal footprint and legacy are my 4 children that I raised. I stayed home and my husband worked. Our kids are amazing and we are expecting our 1st grandbaby. Nothing is more important in life than raising up the next generation!
There’s no greater gift you could have given him. Respect.
Great. You lived as you wanted. So did Oprah. So did Maya Angelou.
It's the height of arrogance to assume your choice is the best choice. Not everyone is cut out for your lifestyle or would be satisfied living as you have lived. It's really that simple.
Thanks for posting this. We need to hear it.
The personal footprint and legacy that she's talking about sounds good to a woman in her twenties or early thirties. But once she gets down the line a bit, she'll realize that nothing that she accomplished in the office is all that earth shattering.
She's a egomaniac
It’s amazing how much she complicates a simple conversation…
She's not a fully educated mental health professional. That's the part that absolutely floors me. So many people are going to her for information and advice on very serious technical topics. She has an associate's degree and some certifications and people trust her over a psychologist or licensed clinical social worker?
That's like going to a person who works at the hospital changing bedpans and asking them for open heart surgery.
She can't admit a mistake in logic so the goalpost must be moved; it's easier to do with word vomit.
tell me about it my goodness smh
@@JoshNtheedrifter "She can't admit a mistake in logic so the goalpost must be moved; it's easier to do with word vomit." That is WomanSplaining in a nutshell.
It’s not a simple conversation.
Shan still trying to prove to Kevin that we can’t read or write and we just want women to come down a notch. She ain’t been listening at all. Lol.
I feel the same. Why doesn't she instruct her dry women to get their heads out of a book and the Internet, and put that head between a dude's legs to learn on the fly?
I agree
I get like she wasn’t trying to listen… she was just trying to talk.
@@LeMan8o4 Yeah its like she can we a talking script of ideologies to try to sell to the watching audience, stay at home dad non-sense. Lets all stay at home and see what they can build, maintain and protect, let them go try develop and run city, let them go fight wars for territories and try to control resources
As usual. 🤣
Just listening to her talking is such a transcending experience to a higher level as a human being because I pushed myself to endure such huge agony.
LMFAOOO Facts
Lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yes!!!!!! sticking icepicks in my eyes
😂
The point KS is trying to make and that she fails to understand is that, generally speaking, men and women want different outcomes from relationships. Men understand and accept that fact. Men say to women: We know what you want from us and we're more than happy to give you what you want. We just have one question: Do you know what we want? Modern women's answer: You want what I want, it's simple. And that's the issue: modern women are not curious enough to understand men. Their need to be right is so strong that it kills any good relationship with a man. All KS is asking modern women is: What if you are wrong about men? Is that a possibility? The MW's answer is always: NO. So how can you build a relationship with someone who never admits they are wrong?
They're not taught to understand us. From the beginning, they're taught that men will pursue and understand them.Little boys are taught to not hit women, hold doors, ladies first, where to walk on the sidewalk with women, give her flowers. We are taught everything about how to treat women, they are inly taught how we should treat them not the other way. It starts with teaching.
Facts
You can't fam🤷🏾♂️
Good breakdown.
Ones like her just desperately want that square peg to fit in the round hole…it doesn’t and never will
The problem most men have is that they listen to what women think and feel.
Women and children get off the boat first for a reason.
Facts!!!
And they the first ones to evacuate from an invasion. Example one, Ukraine.
So the adults can deal with the problem
Lmfao
Men are just as emotional as women, just look at these comments. We are socialized express our feelings.
This is where Kevin was shifting his content. I really enjoyed this and wish he got a chance to develop this fully. RIP KS
He never shifted he advocating for men
Kevin has always advocated for middle class men and families. Those comments and conversations usually didn't get the clicks and views as the other conversations.
Kevin already pointed out why Shan is having an issue with grasping his point. She's in an anecdotal bubble. She's sincerely not considering the wants of the majority of 9-5 working women who are not thousand and millionaires. Great discussion tho.
As usual.
She basically admitted that she doesn't know any average womyn. She definitely lives in a bubble.
My sentiments exactly 💯
And never mind what men who work 6-4 or 5-3 want. And those light hours for many a man right now.
This lady really tried hard to be right n Prove Kevin Samuel wrong. She is using all feelings to make her point
Well look at her and listen to that deep voice - that is a "woman" with extreme masculine energy. Combative, Jezebel.
@@fgcpeak9591 Preach, despite how much they shit on men, they sure do like to copy what their idea of men is, it's so repellent. Women don't even want to act like women.
That's biology man.
Wait so what is he using to form his opinions…? Sounds pretty opinion/feelings based to me. “Most women want…” or “women want men who…” based on what data?
What was she trying to be right about?
Such an detailed in depth conversation, Kevin was truly in his prime. I've learned so much as well as grown just in this past year. I owe him a huge thanks RIP KS. @shanboody your such an emotional intelligent lady by far.
I haven't heard of this women until Kevin showed up on her show. She's sounding intelligent but not being intelligent. C'mon people this lady is in a fantasy world
🤣🤣
Word salad
It's feminist, womanist, modern woman, indoctrination, education and Lowkey misandry coming out of this woman. 😞
Yep
Is it a fantasy if she exists in it, can experience happiness and success?
What has your reality brought you?
Mr. Samules, I think that it’s the right move that you are being intentional about taking this message to different platforms and audiences. Way to go!
God forbid this generation has to suffer a real crisis... I can already hear them sing: where have all the good men gone...
Exactly, they've already been singing it tho.... by then it'll be in the top 3 playlist on repeat 😆
No you didn't haha 😆
They have been saying that for decades
Our Women, have forgotten that Men have taken the blunt
force of the War on the African in this Country/World! They are Not understanding of how/ why/ what, we got HERE! This is an eroding society! Their objectives are to destroy all other civilizations. They have legislated programming that would put an illusion that they, or their system is better than the rest of the other worlds, when that is a total delusionary psychosis! So okay, this young Wo-man , has been so-programmed; against her self!
Just replace the real men with real simps .
She’s just like every other women he talks to. Every time he came with straight truth and forward questions she says “well if you say it like this…” why do we have to tell grown adult women the truth so delicately and around the point? That’s the problem now
idk how her husband does it i can’t stand that feeling of having to walk around on eggshells.. watching every thing you say etc that sounds exhausting
Enabling society....has its consequences
Cause we act like women are capable and intelligent adults but they seriously aren't.
@@TheAcad3mic yeah true they have the brain capability of a 12 year old who doesn't get their way the only reason people consider women like this to be intelligent is because there a master as manipulation so it makes them feel smart its like no your just good at getting what you want but that doesn't make you an intellectual by any means
@@jayclearmen411 cuz her husband likes how she is that’s why he picked her
She said something about focusing on her legacy. Legacy used to mean grandkids and the family surviving generations.
Era of SELFISHNESS
That is still the only legacy a human can leave behind. I don't know why people are trying so hard in any avenue other than having a proper family.
Well she has one child and is expecting another, so she's building a family.
@@trials6502 Oprah has a helluva legacy.... She's a human?
Women can't start legacies, only masculine energy can start a legacy!
He swept the floor with her. She said a whole bunch of nuttin lol
She gives me a headache. Average Joes and Joann's are teachers, plumbers, plant workers, retail, etc. The majority of us are not wanting millions of dollars, huge mansions, and expensive vehicles. 🤦♀️ Plus she speaks in sociological terms, I know them because I took a sociology class in college 25 years ago.
Oh most people want them, just the majority grow up and realize that it’s just not gonna happen. Or at least we did.
Men haven’t had a choice but to realize we aren’t going to get what we want. Simple little dream of working hard for a company that doesn’t abuse you, going home to a family that loves you and doesn’t abuse you. Neither of those are going to happen for most men.
I picked up on her "academic speak" too, it makes me sus about her motives. She seems totally indoctrinated in Marxist postmodern deconstruction = the end of nuclear families/society.
Congrats on taking that one class, that one time, at that one school :D
@@xiomaraxp It was a freshman class. Apparently, I studied the vocabulary enough to remember it all these years later. Don't be fooled by these edumacated types. She could have used more simpler words like location and such.
@@hitandruncommentor lmao men are slapped with reality before we step out our momma house.
She used the term “binary” several times. That alone told everything I need to know about her.
That is a quick litmus test for me. George Carlin used to call it “bullshit hidden underneath jargon.”
@@massimo7219 intellectual masturbation!
I felt the same way. Straight up LGBTQ feminist talking points.
Exactly. Most things are binary. Black and white. There is no in between for a lot of this.
@@willwin43 you just had to be racist and say " white lgbtq2345 stuff". There are tons of black people that say the same crap.
What she said about women feeling good about raising a child, yet it's not anywhere near the feeling of success they get from working, perfectly proved what Kevin says about modern women being narcissistic!
And they just don't have the self awareness to see it!
Having low self awareness is a Hallmark of a narcissistic personality
They don’t see satisfaction in raising kids. They are a reflection of the 2 generations before them. Feminisms main goal was to kill the family. Marxism is evil. It succeeded. And the USA is now dying. Without a ground war.
This woman whole heartedly bought into empty legacy in the career market and making a foot print, when coroparate capitalists are interested in most women as busy bees, who's high value to them is their spending power because women have the natural instinct for nesting and are great consumers. Most High value women end up been single and just become consumers, making rich the 1% even more richer, so destroying the family institution since they are the trend setters and effectively bringing about the great reset, the human disintegration. The great awakening on the other hand is to bring back the hierarchical family institution and the prosperity of the human race.
I'm sure that 40 years from now when she has grandchildren and is able to sit back and reflect on her life, that her feelings of accomplishment and joy will come from the legacy she speaks of... but that legacy is her children and her children's children. Not the work she did that people will forget about
Used to love Shan when I was a teen. The philosophy she has doesn’t work and her outcomes ultimately aren’t what I want. It’s very much things will just come to me, and as a man it doesn’t work. She can only see the world thru her lens. I respect that. But she’s so eager to be in the conversation. She means well but isn’t pushing the conversation forward. She’s just diverting it to what she believes.
She's been diverting from the concervation on purpose.
Shan should spend more time in male spaces and realize that her philosophy and desires for women and the world are very idealistic and have limitations. It works for her but for the mass majority of people as Kevin is saying it doesn’t and this is what Shan fails to recognize.
She doesn't mean well. She's being disingenuous.
well-said...,.Shan is lost
Brittany Renner listened better than this, Shan just trying to politely combat and reframe everything he is saying.
The fast talking "smart" women. I avoid these types like the flu.
🤣🤣🤣
FACTS the fast talking proper accent ones raised in bel air
Exactly... we all know these weirdo women who try so hard to act like men and like they are "intelligent". Completely incapable of fighting in a war or making strategic decisions grounded in logic though if push came to shove with those weak shoulders and body
All the ego, talk and confidence of a successful hard-working man - but none of the results, knowledge, character, work ethic, sacrifice, and understanding of principles rules and boundaries. Women talk a lot, men do a lot.
on god lmaoooooo
Her: “I don’t find this conversation productive because I don’t feel inspired by it. I don’t feel like I’ve gained anything.”
Also her 3 min later: “Thank you so much for this conversation I learned a lot.”
Can’t make this shit up!
She probably who not to engage with or waste her time with.
@@jacifrankie9893 she's post wall, men 12-24 and her kids are the only men who care about this oldie.
Exactly!!!!!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣. I thought it was me alone who picked up on it.
Soooo we are back to square one!
It sounded promising in the last video, but towards the end Shan represents the upper echelon of women who wanted their needs catered too
Yep. The first video.. Kevin came to the table in good faith to understand how women feel about sex and love, and how men could benefit and be better for their women from understanding things from that side
When it’s time to talk about relationships and roles though, she was way less inclined to have that same good faith in attempting to understand how women could benefit and be better for their men in the context of the overall relationship
square friggin one 🥲
And those are the exact ones that are left in the streets and passed around..
@@1gregmoreira just came to express her point and thats it.
Why can't women have their needs catered too? It doesn't mean that it can be reciprocated.
Dammit.. She's not listening specifically to understand. She's more listening to speak next. There's a difference.
So stuck on high value this and that, high class, high income. Not realizing that most of these people calling in are None of those things. They are average pretending to be what they're not.. Average is NOT an insult.. This is the point. If you're average.. BE THAT.
Sincerely,
Average man that loves who I am.
Amen
She listen to respond not to understand, demonstrating her intellectual dishonesty.
She is so LA 🙄
You expected anything different?
@@ericjordan6059 you right.. lol
She is confused and needs time to mature. Kevin was patient but he can’t help her understand information currently outside of her ability.
She needs to learn how to listen to understand and not to respond.
@@normbatchelor7403 It's not that she isn't listening... but she believes in a certain modern mindset. She believes that gender roles are totally arbitrary and that men could just as easily be mothers and women could go out and be the breadwinners. It's all just social preferences and engineering. She doesn't realize that men and women ARE DIFFERENT on many fundamental levels. Not that it's never true that anyone can reverse roles, but in MOST cases, it just doesn't work. And that has little to do with social preferences.
@@jonothandoeser You have hit the nail on the head. With few exceptions, when roles are reversed, the roles that comes naturally; the persons performing them are stressed more to fulfill those roles. For example most men who accept the role of house husbands, compromise their being emasculated for the sake of the household, with the wife having the luxury of doing almost anything she pleases and women or boss women have that extra stress in decision making,to appear stronger than a man and hence all suffer because of her ego Compared to her male counterpart in many cases.
It seemed she didn’t hear what Kevin was saying because her audience isn’t by her acknowledgment “those women”. And even she wouldn’t admit that someone has to raise the kids…. And it doesn’t sound like that situation was one she had considered.
But more the fantasy of perfection… 🤷🏽♂️
They always refer to the outliers or anecdotal. Its female solipsism. If they’ve never seen it, that means it doesnt happen.
i can tell she one of those educated ppl that believe there education = intelligence… she isn’t nearly as smart as she thinks she is if she’s having so much problems understand an comprehending kev’s pov or just his points.
Raising kids went out the window for their gain; children get raised by grandparents or the streets
I knew the chameleon would show her true colors 😆 it was only a matter if time.
She's still m*d at Aba from Aba & Preach for not smashing her. 😏
@@ptolemeeselenion1542 that was a thing!!!?
@@roninhubbard9059 Look at the interview she made with A&P. She even reposted the interview in later months. That b*g Habesha forehead energy is living rent free into her head. 😏🤣
@@roninhubbard9059 q
Kevin was on point on so many levels.
"I love being a mom BUT" That's literally what you can sum up a woman like her's mindset, she doesn't care about being a mother, or being a wife. Like backing her man, raising the children and making the home a family oriented life. Like doing that is some sort of curse, that if she focuses on the children and her home instead of a business, she's being held back somehow, like she's not living up to her potential.
She cares about being a BOSS she wants control, she wants the income, she wants the status. She wants to be a MAN without any of the responsibilities that come with being a MAN.
It would almost be sad if it wasn't for how arrogant some of the women are about it, men need to take back their control, opt out from these women. Find the ones and support them who are submissive to the men, and who actually WANT to take the feminine role she was created for (Eve was made for Adam, not Adam for Eve)
Good observation.
and on top that her man is beta. They're already in an open relationship as we speak
Working a job even though u have children at home. It’s one thing that have to work but when a man is able to cover the cost financially and u are able to be a housewife. I don’t want to have to work to care for my children. It’s called sacrifice!
Bc they were sold the cardi b and Beyonce and Nicki menaje image and emotionally bought it. They love how it looks and feels. If society as a whole SHAMED that and was repulsed by it, the artists would stop Bc folks boycott it, and women would change course. As long as they're supported they just do what works and gives them the most benefits.
As usual.
Mr. Samuels. You were a perfect gentleman on the lady’s show. Thank you for informing us by having these conversations. Power to black couples as husbands and wives. May our tribe increase. May we learn to work together as husband and wife in our respective roles.
It's sound like every time he makes a point she trys to word it differently 🤔
I’m blessed to have a woman who likes a partnership. She makes around 100 and I’m at 70 and in a few years, I’ll be where she’s at. We travel, we buy luxury items and we respect each others position….love it
This comment is literally how relationships should be. It’s not a competition. It’s a partnership/a team. It’s not one upping each other. It’s both of y’all getting better and helping each other. Like these people are making it too complicated. Both do chores, both (depends) pay the bills, both spoil, both travel. The end.
Sounds so nice and will get likes from modern women....but remember 85% of relationships are ended by women, and 50% of marriages end in divorce. So you're basically flipping a coin if you'll be homeless and financially ruined.
THANK YOU!!! I'm so sick of these idiotic comments on here. I had to read for a long time to find someone who knows the real "truth". Our folks would rather bash each other than do what really needs to be done to make a relationship/marriage work. That is why MOST of the married couples that I know, myself included, have been married for 20+ years. It takes teamwork. Period. If only black people would lift each other up instead of tearing each other down, we'd be a true force to be reckoned with. It really makes me sad. Anyway, best wishes to you and yours.
Amen!
See you divorced in a few years unless you man up.
This is what women do to sound intelligent. Just convolute the conversation with a bunch of word salad to make you think they are actually saying something. Their goal is just to confuse you and throw you off. All women do this and its insufferable.
Reminds me of Jada Pinkett lol
1000%🎯🎯
this is the main reason why you can’t take em at face value you gotta ignore what they say half the time an watch what they do…shit sometimes your just better off doing the opposite of things you think will make logically sense just to get em…like as a man you’d rather go the direct route sometimes an speak plainly…but we all know what happens if we stop using our filter for 5 seconds an be honest..98% of the time womxn cannot handle male honesty its a concept so foreign cold so hard an harsh to em that they refuse to see the reality of it..they much rather be fed sweet bullish a long with the bitter truth cuz they can’t handle that raw an uncut every-time you try to let em know the male pov they’ll instantly try to correct u like they know a male perspective better than you …tell you the male that your thoughts as a guy is wrong an they understand a man’s mind better than you do..like it’s crazy
@Jay Johnson They do not care about facts or statistics at ALL. They all operate in a gray area where reality is subjective. You can state a fact like "Humans have 10 fingers" and a womens type of response would be "I know some one who has only 6 fingers so thats not true". And they've convinced a lot of men to think like this as well. Listen to enough women speak and you'll notice they all think this way. Even in this interview, shan kept saying "I don't know any women like that" or "The people tht follow me don't think this way" = All gray areas that women go to when hit with facts/data/statistics.
@@jayclearmen411 it's women not womxn. That feminist crap needs to die. Or are you making a joke?
Kevin is dropping Gems in the Conversation
🤦🏾♂️ I stopped listening to Shan because all I'm hearing from her is "I'm not listening to Kevin, but spewing what I want that accords with my feelings".
This is what I would refer to as guerilla warfare being carried out by Kevin. He is using unconventional tactics to get across to them and their followers. Pay close attention. The majority of their followers aren't going directly to Kevins content so he's going to them thru their representatives thus flipping on the mental light switch in their minds en mass instead of one by one. I think its genius. All the while allowing them to make outright examples of themselves as representatives of modern women that will say and do anything to justify their behavior in the face of their own discontent just to avoid accountability and doom themselves to short term gratification and long term unhappiness.
Sounds like you just hating on her because I think they had a great conversation.
I wasn't thrilled when I saw this collab because I feel like you could dissect her content & perfectly use it as examples in your teaching of what not to do
You basically described what he did with this video/purpose of the colab so in reality you liked it ? or am I just high off this ⛽️😂😂
I actually didn't watch it because Im not receptive to some perspectives of the guest. I do watch a lot of Kevin's content though
You’re just a misogynist
He did nothing of the sort. He was actually agreeing with her points.
@@lilwan827 He did nothing of the sort. He actually was agreeing with most of her points. Not debating with it.
To me this is one of Kevin’s greatest interview. He Mentioned some valuable things.
This sounded more like a debate between an academic who hasn’t traveled the country and been stuck in LA vs someone who actually speaks to real people on a regular basis. I wonder how many videos of Shan had watched of Kevin’s and if her opinions would change if she adopted Kevin’s format of interviewing random people across the country.
She speaks more for ideal modern feminist woman and KS speaks for the traditional men. Those 2 groups are in opposition to each other. The modern fems looks for little pockets of the populatuon where they could be right abd KS looks ar the population as a whole tell what is actually occurring.
Feels vs Statistics
@@TruthFLA Similar to Kim Foster (For Harriet). Lots of idealistic, post-modern feminist philosophy that goes out the window if war or famine ever breaks out. Not gonna lie, I watch and listen to them because you need to be versed in their b.s. jargon to dissect and disable it.
I thought so too because I'm African, living in Europe, well travelled due to my job.
I am finishing my Doctorate in trauma, she is not an academic. She has found research that supports her beliefs. An Academic should be able to handle push back. Every time Kevin gets real she cuts him off. She 32 and believes she has the answers to life.
Time stamp 10:27, look at Kevin’s face when she says, “Well we’ve also seen the rise in stay at home dads.” Classics🤣😂!
What was better was that after she made that statement Kevin sat with it processed what she said and asked a good insightful thoughtful question "what percentage of women would want a stay at home dad" and skillfully and masterfully deflected it into something completely different.
@@jddiggy2343 thus the need to be right. Her answer should have been a resounding “Zero”.
RIP KS. As life goes on, and new challenges arrives, I’ll be thinking, what would Kevin say during these times. Thank you god father for your imprint you’ve done to many lives. RIP Goat 🐐 😇 🤙🏾🙏🏾💯
This was depressing and familiar - she showed no listening skills, diverted to pushing unusual extremes that have bad outcomes like stay at home nurturing dads as if they were regular and beneficial and had long term potential, and refused in general to accept that women were forcing men to react to their impossible requirements. The outcome is MGTOW. In the 80s and 90s and 00s, it was easy for men to do MGTOW by picking up a woman every few months in the old regular face to face way. No more. This is the depth that needs to be looked at now, but these women can’t even acknowledge the simple version of reality, never mind the 2nd stage
Its simple. If you were the best man in the room that she can attain then your picked. Now a days women have the internet and theres always a better man no matter who your talking about. The only way for her to keep winning the lottery is to keep playing and we know the house( men who are balling and able to throw away money) never loses.
Amen
shan is a sweet talker, she just tries to sound fancy but everything she says is basic or conveys nothing.
I sadly agree.
Yeah she try to sound clever with her mix of words but her point is just nonsensical and pointless.
She's Woke!
They refer to that as sesquipedalian.
Your lack of understanding is not her fault love
I would love to hear her perspective in 40 years. I saw a young Iyanla VanZant on the Phil Donahue show attacking Shahazarad Ali for writing a book Iyanla had not even read at the time but decades later I see Iyana echoing the same sentiments as Iyanla. Time reveals truth
Shan is not a traditional woman.. shes a modern woman.
Ah yeah, her husband is a beta-cuck. Go look at their relationship dynamic
@@louissaunders912 yeah.i watch her and her husband channel all the time shes far from traditional lol
She is a 304.
She is a liar too. Every woman I know with kids are depressed when they have to go back to work.
@@SarahR2D2 exactly, she doesn’t know what she’s talking about, very annoying.
This is the results of having pretty girl privilege and living in a echo chamber. She has no clue about how real people date and the demands that the average woman has on men in the new dating era. But it's good she at least sat down for a conversation. Progress...🤷🏿♂️
One has to be pretty for that privilege to apply.
Same thing I thought. In her late thirties she'll look back at this a realize how no one corrected her when they should have. Her bubble-headed thinking will lead to tough lessons.
@@clarkvaughan this reply is late but Shan is 36, she’s already in her late 30’s
The most IMPORTANT legacy you can leave, is your family, not job or career.
I could never and would never even attempt to practice that level of patience with such a disagreeable person. It's a completely pointless endeavor in general as they are almost never open minded, but to film it and put it out there for the world to see is extremely valuable. These conversations have to be had, and we would get nowhere if everyone were like me.
No, she's open minded. She likes tourism in the bedroom. Lots of tourists going through.
@@IronHorsey3 She sounds like the kind of person for whom sex is more about circus tricks than about a deep connection and feeling between husband and wife. There is no number of tricks or new positions that will make sex better if you don't have the foundation right.
she thinks a man losing his virginty after 18 is late
of course, and it is. when she says "men" she means only the top 10-20%. if you are one of the best looking guys in a modern class room 18 is late, and you don't need game.
If 18 is late then I was late late 😭😭 I lost mine at 20
Younger generation seem to be losing it later
This is how our language has been corrupted: men can’t be virgins, they’re inexperienced. Unless you’re counting men who take it up the arse, who are probably behind this lingo 😂
It's true what Kevin I said about woman choosing to stay single. I think for me the idea that man is gonna want to replace you when you looks fade or cheat on you, I don't wanna work as hard or harder if I get married. If I don't have the time to pay attention to my man and take care of myself to today's beauty standard, when he divorces me I'm gonna have to work 3x as hard as a single divorced mother and still end up alone.
Liberal views will get you nowhere in life 💯
Truth
The biggest mistake Kevin is making these days is his attempts to have a rational or logical conversations with women. It is impossible. They will say whatever they have to say to win an argument. You are never going to get this woman to say" wow Kevin, you have a point there,may be BW must do things differently for the sake of the Black family", They have found a sweet spot in the system that encourage/rewards them to sacrifice the BM and the Black family and they think it is a great bargain. Anyone who thinks they can convince a BW to willingly sacrifice for the welfare of the Black family is deceiving himself.
Spot on analysis. Personally, I do not have intellectual conversations with women. It's a complete waste of time. I simply tell them what they want to hear so I could smash and pass.
True but sad af!
💯. This idea of "opening/expanding" the conversation will NOT work. Based on the merit you presented, as well as with what comes with building a brand, and obtaining fam/building a network. The conversations that he's had with any celeb has gotten no where...big a&& elephants still in the room. Even with the women that calls into his show..they still don't understand/comprehend the full extent of concepts he talks about.
@@otrebla8944 Then you're part of the problem. Telling women what they want to hear is how we got into this mess. Better start telling them what they need to hear whether they let you smash or not. Imagine if all men suddenly became honest, they'd have no choice but to still let me smash. After all, they too want it
@@otrebla8944 and what do u tell them exactly that they want to hear ? 😂
This was a very interesting conversation, especially with two individuals from two different generations.
Wishing the best… 🌷.
She thinkin while he talkin. She not listening.
Yea I peeped that
My dawg 💪🏽💪🏽
That's basically what women do.
Maybe she ls analysing what he said. For the most part she added to what he said and didn't really go against it
She’s listening to respond and not understand
I honestly think the only thing this content does for most women is show them how to say the right words women lead with emotions 🤔 emotions over facts that logic is very dangerous added with selfishness and lack of accountability that's a dangerous mixture and this woman is a prime example says all the right words
Agreed. They'll say exactly what you want to hear, but their actions will go directly against what they say. Scrutinize them long enough, and you'll see their true selves.
if she says something you disagree with it and lives by that you can hope to change her, if she talks right and acts wrong you know she is a liar and will nit change.
some women will hear and change. more men will hear and re-evaluate their lives. these are the only ones who can be "saved", so you might as well do it.
As usual.
Should not call illogical movements of blended facts and opinions that provide unsat outcomes logic at all. This category is illogic.
@@otrebla8944 this content and even a lot of kevins content is what i call chameleon trainer they get better at getting what they want and you get suckered into marriage =)
I Will Wage My Entire Fortune on This Woman's Point of view fails on HYPERGAMY!!!!
She still perceives it as she can’t settle for the average man. She just explains her points better but she’s no different from “I’m a PHD”. She’s more concerned about the Facebook Group filled with “high value men” she wanna join for sure so she definitely gives classist vibes …. she still don’t get it it’s the Women saying “NO” to decent hard working men
LMAO … Kevin with the facts and her response was “that makes me sad “ 🤣
Unbelievable
LMBO, Not going to lie....Im still laughing at that. Just like Kevin say, you cant make this up. And folks he never paid her to say that either 😂
Her husband is average though.
@@Neddie2k Seems like she dominates him as well.
@@Don_JZA Yes she does, I listened to an interview with both of them talking about marriage, the man was doing the babysitting, nothing wrong with that but you could tell she called all the shots. He was married to a beautiful young rich woman, what did he expect.
Women are not saying no to decent hardworking men, they say no to you. It's a big difference
She represents the modern female population with how she speaks in ideals. Kevin came with stats, figures and data as men tend to do.
She spoke opinion he used facts
Joint leadership means to be in charge of different things in the family. Women think a man doing what men do means to be dominated. For women, It means for women to not act & behave like a man. Men don't want nor need a woman that wants to behave like a man. Men want women who will enhance what he doesn't know how to do, isn't good at doing. There could be different leaders in charge of different things, but there can be only ONE decision maker. Men are better at making family decisions because most men think logically & most women think emotionally. Emotional decision making will ALWAYS bite you in the ass & emotions change from one minute to the next.
*She's an Air HEAD. She was listening to respond, only.*
One day she will get a rude awakening allegedly 😂😂
That's guy who get her a kid is certainly a pain to society trust me...he's worse off
🗣Ive noticed women have kids just so someone HAS to listen to them. ive also never met a women that has said "Yes Im just WRONG".......😂😂
Going through your vault KS, Rest up King
I really don't understand when she speaks! It's so much word salad oh my goodness brah
Bro that's most women also he's not pushing back hard enough on her bs
@@jermaineburgess3767 He doesn't have to, he's letting her dig her own hole here.
@@jermaineburgess3767 She is a master of moving the goal post. I really dislike listening to her, it's like she is masking her unintelligence with fast talking and big words.
You could tell in the 1st vid. Context was allll over the place. Just spewing $&HT out... emotional responses.
This woman processes her feelings and thoughts through her coochie and filters it through feminist ideology.
The only thing I agree with her on is to have one child and see how many you want from there. I don't think people should put so much pressure on a number. Life can happen where your womb won't permit you to have a big family etc
only women think of stuff like this post.... cause men are fine with 1 we don't even talk about this, less of a TRUE bill...
KS point in asking women that question is for them to be realistic. A specific number is not definite for sure (no one can predict that) but notice that KS always asks women their age first, which will determine how many children they will be able to have by the time they decide to get married and start having children.
The traditional man provide the NEST of provision the will provide protection and security. The traditional heart lo❤️ing woman provides the emotional nurture the care support. This gives the man more strength to pursue even more to keep the family
“This makes me sad” YES Shan! Yes! It’s real and this happens! This is what you DONT see. That is the average. That is the majority. That it not the woman in your circles, it’s the ones in ours
And that’s what she FAILS to understand and grasp. Most women overall are very subjective in their opinion and interacting with others
@Anna crystal 😂😂😂 great
Don’t know what she’s talking about I read daily n didn’t have to go to no damn college. The audacity of these women
This conversation reminds me of an event in my hometown. There are many successful single women in the city of 5 million. The event was a mixer where invitations were sent out to men. Very few actually showed up while 600 women paid to come to the event. Less than 20 men showed up. There simply is a huge pool of men who have given up on the dating market and are choosing to stay single. The majority of men with high social capital married years ago to the most desirable women. I think part of the reality Kevin is speaking to is the 74% of American women who earn less than $50,000 per year. They will never be able to have that middle class lifestyle of kids, house, travel, two cars, and disposable income without a man. But they place their value at much higher than it actually is and therefore reject 99% of the men who approach them.
In the previous video I mentioned the fact that Kevin didnt try to call out some of her obvious fallacies. Here he did and he did it gracefully and without any rudeness or aggressiveness. You see guys, it can be done. She was not listening though.....lol
Someone said he was still holding back punches and over edit the video to benefit him
Excellent observation
@@reese85 I believe he held back though. At some point you can tell he was visibly fed up😂. But at least he tried to pass on the knowledge without being “harsh” (i dnt know what else to use). This lady however only cared abt female pleasure😂
We all know how to not be rude and aggressive, thing is men have been trying to not upset the little lady with our wants so much she’s gotten used to the buzz. Metaphors aside; MRAs tried the polite way. PUAs tried the persuasive way. Mgtow have chosen the harsh, don’t care way. Guess which one has gotten peoples attention?
Trust me people you want mr. Samuels to be your instructor and guide, listen to him and learn otherwise ladies you’ll be left with guys like hammer hand and undead chronic. You think KS is rude, mean, and argumentative. He’s the first touch of fall in September compared to those other two who are as the heart of winter in January.
Or better yet keep on doing what your doing; I got popcorn, a comfy chair and a great view.
I don’t argue on internet no more you speaking the truth brother, men going their own way is the natural conclusion to what modern women have done to the dating market to cause a recent, if you’re not fine with that, then you better be ready for the cold water treatment that Kevin is giving you
Because a lot of men are starting to wake up to the idea that the modern woman is not worth the “squeeze “
She lives in LA & acts like his Oklahoma City example is not a reflection of MOST AMERICANS.
“Me & my friends want to work after having a baby”
She really means I value being a public figure & being able to also say I’m a mom expands my audience & boosts my profile!
Im sure her friends do want to go back to work. Work taking pictures. Blogging about the latest restaurants. Their travels.
I believe Shan when she says that she and her friends want to work after childbirth. I believe her when she says that she’s passionate about her job/career and that she wants to build something. I also believe that at the threat of violence or in the face of disaster, she would revert back to “woman” and wait for the men to step in. That’s the idea that these type have: Money, power and status. Shot callers. Until someone wants blood.
@@timboslice9905 I say this all the time. When disaster happens and the system collapses, meaning no environment nor government to help. Then what ? Where is that independent Bravado ?
I have a friend who works while the dad stays at home. HE loves it. But after a few years she has stopped respecting him and the marriage is in trouble. She feels like she can do better. It's so unfair to him because they both had careers and he allowed her to do what she loves - and now he's being punished for it.
Typical woman way
7:19 - 7:33 Majority of modern women don't want the stay at home dad and have to be the one 100% responsible for supporting a family. More often than not the man will be shamed for not doing more. Modern women just want all the benefits of the traditional woman along with all the benefits of being modern while expecting men to stay traditional.
And IF a woman says she's fine with a stay-at-home man, its always with the caveat "as long as he has a vision or is ambitious"
@@simonkalibwani5832 What the hell does it mean having a goal and ambitious while being a staying at home dad? Opening a business?
In what world is a stay-at-home dad and working mother a successful model for a relationship in any sizable number? She's gotta be kidding me.
This lady is weird and crazy 🤪
She wants role reversal.
Her husband is basically that.
A stay-at-home dad isn't masculine. If he doesn't disrespect himself, other men will... and most likely his wife will, too. She has the balls in the relationship, and will probably seek out a Chad for side fun because soi boi won't get her juices flowing.
Switching around what KS says, she'll exercise (her) options".
I read since the pandemic! That more dads became stay at home dads
He was drinking those Red Bulls in just about every video. That itself can effect the heart.
All her decisions are based in fear ; fear of taking motherhood responsibilities, having to deal with a strong man. "i rather have him vulnerable" speaks volumes about your ineptitude in relations
For once a discussion Kevin had with someone was no benefit to anyone, this was pointless. If there was a queen of the modern women, it would be her by a long shot
Very pointless..... And it looks like it was edited quite a bit..... So it probably would've been so much longer and even more pointless
Hella fluff everywhere. Got absolutely nowhere with this conversation.
If every lady is a Queen then no one is.
Naw Brittany Renner is for sure the queen of modern women. This girl is next in line tho
@@SystematicMechanic exactly, the same thing can be said about a King. Do you have the discernment to understand the difference?
He’s right a lot of women want the man to take care of home financially, even if she have a job . For example I been working since 16, went to college graduate etc etc and I’m 28. I feel so over worked even though I am only 28. So having a man to take care of home and I can have a financial break will be nice . That’s only because I had to work so early in life because my parents didn’t have jobs or careers where I can chill as a teenager, and go to college without having to worry about money . So a man taking care of home financially sounds appealing to a woman like me. But because I know how hard it is on man to take care of everything I will never put that burden on my husband unless he comes to me and say okay I got everything.
This is an extremely "earthly", deluded, and out-of-touch woman. There is no way I could ever get along with this person.
Whatever world she lives in and whatever people roll in her circles have got to be .01% of a population.
I'm 46 years old, she's still too young and diluted to know what real life is.
12:23
This solidified the issue I have with her. She relates everything back to her perspective.
She's saying, that her friends love their careers. She's in entertainment, her friends are in entertainment. That's far different from the rest of us who have to get up and grind every day.
Most people aren't sitting in front of a microphone or a camera with little/no oversight from a boss. Most of us have deadlines, meetings, static schedules with tons of personal sacrifice, and no work/life balance.
Good thing you have the opportunity to find people who are more akin to how you think.
I would say continue to be open to people with different perspectives, you never know what will resonate with you.
@@freudianslip2192 That is a lie too. They love the power but they don't love careers
Where is your wife?
@@oddp61 I've been married since 2009.
After watching both episodes I think most can tell how defensive she was. The verbal is easy to spot, but her posture and nonverbal was where the truth really shines. It wasn't till about half or near the end she loosened up and realized KS's points he was making. She came into this ready to debate. He came into this to share and educate. She came into this with a clenched fist. He came into this with a welcoming hand and soft voice. I could be wrong but I think KS was hoping for more. This discussion started off about one thing and ended up showing how many women stonewall. Sometimes when you enter a situation, we have to leave our egos at the door. She carried hers like swords at her hips. I would really like to see more content like this with men and women.
I had a child and didn't want to go to work afterwards. The thought of being apart from my children and them being susceptible to illness over and over just so I can say I have a career is sick to me. So many woman hate to leave their children every day but they insist on lying to everyone. Surveys indicate they report higher levels of dissatisfaction and depression than their stay at home wife counterparts. This woman is lying to you
Most women don’t feel a sense of purpose from their cubicle jobs / nurse / teacher/ lawyer.. literally everyone is exhausted and wants a break or to not work at all. This woman is delusional
@@Soleil5291 Its horrible. My friend called me up a couple weeks ago telling me how sad she gets when she has to drop her children off at daycare
This chick is full of cap. Hilarious. What could we expect out of a modern woman??
I knew this wasn’t going to be good when Kevin Samuel asked a simple question and she wouldn’t answer. She’s no different from the typical women Kevin talks to.
This women is actually so slow in the head can’t answer anything straight, keeps going off topic and jumping on to something else rather then debating the problem. People like that lack inaccuracy in all aspects of life. She has a RUclips channel spreading her inaccurate weak views to younger women
I don't listen to what people say so much anymore, I study the results of their lives to see if I want what they have.
Her whole message was like vomit to my ears. Kevin really went light on her to be honest
Don’t let a person you’ve never met control Your emotions like that
@@issabradshaw2877 it doesn't "control" my emotions it was a physical reaction, does a foul odor control your nose when you smell it or does it just stink? That's how I respond to everything that oozed out her lips
@@strickdawg2991 your ears can’t and don’t vomit. What you described is a metaphorical representation of how you feel
It's a waste of time to have these in person interviews if you're not going to keep the same energy as your phone calls. You become meek everytime you sit in front of women, and it's opposite of everything you preach.
Your chatting shit because he has kept the same energy with certain female guests. But if their profile is big and will help his platform he will act accordingly. Use your head smh.
You see, in his show, he's in a position of superiority and that's the point, people come for him for advice. He's being sought after. In this interview, he tries a more reciprocal approach, which makes the guest more open and vulnerable to persuasion, his ultimate goal is to persuade and that means a lot of listening and a careful choice of words. If he let women talk on his show the way Shan does, the show would never end.
I liked this conversation. They had a coming together to reconciliation of their philosophies
It's like she couldn't comprehend what Kevin was saying. Then he broke it down and it still went over her head. That's why I've lost hope for the modern-day women. What are we suppose to do.