Tesla Reveals NEW MODEL Y--With Stalk?!

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  • Опубликовано: 27 янв 2025

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  • @castletown999
    @castletown999 17 дней назад +77

    Leaving the stalk in was the right thing to do. The problem with buttons on the steering wheel is when you try to indicate while the wheel is off center, you would have to look down to find them. Trust me, that's the last thing you want to do do going a round a busy multi-lane roundabout in the UK.

    • @Sal3600
      @Sal3600 17 дней назад +6

      it's easy. i do it ask the time here in Australia. we have the same roundabouts and road rules as in the UK. i understand women may not be able to do it due to smaller hands.

    • @chrisroger2000
      @chrisroger2000 17 дней назад +1

      I have never seen anybody use the blinkers at a round a bout of which there are many where I live. Why not press the button before entering the round a bout so the wheel is not off Centred? Also, do you really need signals in a round a bout? Maybe your roundabouts have many lanes but doesn’t each lane have only 1 or 2 options(exit the round a bout or stay in the round a bout, no lane changes allowed inside the round a bout) that would be obvious which direction a random car was going to take by the car’s body language and speed?

    • @robertwhite3503
      @robertwhite3503 17 дней назад +13

      @@chrisroger2000 On a medium sized roundabout you should indicate that you are leaving the roundabout just after the junction before your departure junction. This makes it clear to vehicles that are joining after your junction that they are free to join.

    • @healeydave
      @healeydave 17 дней назад +8

      Mistakes were made, nice to see Tesla recognising the issue with using buttons on a movable object, absolutely absurd decision and I'm glad they didn't belligerently try to save face by keeping them. I hate it when you're in the middle of a manoeuvre and want to turn the volume down and the steering wheel is out of level, adding that problem to indicators was just a terrible idea.

    • @GF-dm3vb
      @GF-dm3vb 16 дней назад +7

      Yes, it will sell a lot better with a stalk.

  • @EspenBerge74
    @EspenBerge74 17 дней назад +42

    You have to realize that in other parts of the world the stalk is highly sought after. Like in Norway where I live, where we have around 6.4 roundabouts per square kilometer. And if you look at Model 3 refresh tests from Norway (like from TeslaBjorn), the "no stalk" is always mentioned as a missing element. The biggest EV market per citizen in the world, who btw loves Teslas, also loves the stalk :)

    • @st-ex8506
      @st-ex8506 17 дней назад +1

      You have after-market kit allowing to install the missing stalk.

  • @fettmaneiii4439
    @fettmaneiii4439 17 дней назад +49

    Stalks are better than buttons. a stalk you can swing by and have a random grip on the steering wheel, doesn't matter where. Stalks are just better than buttons for turn signals.

    • @djsUltra
      @djsUltra 17 дней назад +2

      I agree. Also, I know this sounds stupid, but if people can't effectively use their turn signals, this will pollute the fsd data and fsd won't be able to either.

    • @marktiede2710
      @marktiede2710 17 дней назад

      I disagree. I've been using the button turn signals in my 2024 model s and have gotten very used to them. When I have driven my ice car with stalk on roundabouts, more often than not, I didn't signal out of the roundabout because I wanted to keep both hands on the wheel. Additionally, I've been driving more and more with fsd. That does the signaling for you.

    • @healeydave
      @healeydave 17 дней назад +4

      @@marktiede2710 Indication on FSD is fine, and the way forward, meanwhile whilst there is still a lot of manual driving in this transitional period, messing with a proven technology like stalks is just nonsensical. It's less of an issue for the USA where-by many turns have filter lanes and most states don't have roundabouts. In countries with older smaller road systems with many roundabouts, trying to signal an exit whilst the wheel is turned and the buttons are now back to front is an unnecessary distraction.

    • @joehimes9898
      @joehimes9898 16 дней назад

      And better for wipers

  • @LloydDickens
    @LloydDickens 17 дней назад +9

    In New Zealand where we have lots of roundabouts we are required to signal entering and leaving the roundabout; we would find buttons very difficult and possibly dangerous. The most common view is with no stalk most would not buy the car. We can order now for delivery in May.

  • @stevenschmidt
    @stevenschmidt 17 дней назад +19

    The thing with the cybertruck is you never have to turn the wheel completely over so it's easier to keep your thumbs on the turning signal buttons. But that's not the case for Model 3 and Model Y so a stalk is so much better.

  • @SmartMart1658
    @SmartMart1658 17 дней назад +27

    Jason Cammisa: Tesla “The lack of stalks is just stupidity”. A lot of people won't buy the refresh Model 3 because it doesn't have indicator stalks. The Cybertruck can work better without a stalk because of the steer by wire & rear wheel steer and you don't have to turn the steering wheel a lot to go round roundabouts. Here in the UK and Europe we have a lot more roundabouts so indicator stalks are essential.

  • @aravindtirumularaju7374
    @aravindtirumularaju7374 15 дней назад +3

    Re-introducing the stalk is an intelligent move in my view. Simple and clean does not always mean removing some features that are essential for safety. They probably kept it after realizing that.

  • @Lewehot
    @Lewehot 14 дней назад +1

    For us with decades of turn signal muscle memory using stalks we can tell you that buttons are not the same. Thanks for bringing them back!

  • @DanielWillis-q2g
    @DanielWillis-q2g 17 дней назад +6

    John, I think they kept the stalk in because it doesn't have steer by wire like your CT does. It works for the truck but not the others W/O steer by wire.

  • @franklanham6936
    @franklanham6936 16 дней назад +4

    John - I usually agree with your observations about Tesla cars. However, I had a visceral reaction against your visceral reaction against the stalk in this video! I am much more concerned with safety than I am about interior style. The lack of a stalk in traffic circles, roundabouts, and whenever you have a series of quick turns makes a driver tend to say the heck with it when it comes to using turn signals. This is definitely a bad thing. If they’re not going to put a stalk on the car, then they could at least put a tactile and visual differentiator on one of the buttons to make it easier to use when the steering wheel is upside down. In fact, that’s a project I have in mind for my 2024 model 3.

  • @DouglasJMark
    @DouglasJMark 14 дней назад +1

    Thanks, Doc. I imagine that the button left and right turn signals are more suited to the cyber truck with its drive by wire set up. Good thought that destruct might be removable in the future.

  • @odderret
    @odderret 14 дней назад +1

    Stalk ftw!!! Absolutely the correct decision

  • @bearlemley
    @bearlemley 15 дней назад +1

    So glad they listened and kept at least one stalk. Now our second car will be another model Yp.
    When they remove the steering wheel will this know it all tell us steering wheels are ugly?

  • @jsjs6751
    @jsjs6751 16 дней назад +3

    If the doc don't want the blinker stalk back it is due to his lack of using them. 😄

  • @ivankuljis1780
    @ivankuljis1780 15 дней назад

    @6:50 You can even raise the seats at the touch of a button! KOOL.....

  • @stevenschmidt
    @stevenschmidt 17 дней назад +16

    If the new Model Y actually has a stalk when it comes to the U.S., then it will still be a possibility for me! I won't buy a car without a stalk.

    • @fettmaneiii4439
      @fettmaneiii4439 17 дней назад +3

      yeah I am a stalk guy as well. Buttons are too small, needs too much of a precise grip. its freakin communist.

    • @Sal3600
      @Sal3600 17 дней назад +1

      it does have a stalk.

    • @Sal3600
      @Sal3600 17 дней назад

      @@fettmaneiii4439nah mate it's just like a controller. easy. i prefer the buttons.

  • @user-to2rf1rj5v
    @user-to2rf1rj5v 14 дней назад +1

    7:11 I can see why they did this in their best selling vehicle, for now. The CT stalkless implementation is perfect, because of steer by wire. But not as great in the new Model 3 (or the Model S/X), because no steer by wire. Once SBW comes to all models, stalks will go away forever.

  • @drulifson
    @drulifson 17 дней назад +4

    We had about an inch of snow in MN yesterday and my Y’s first snow. The RWD handled like a champ even going up the hill west of lake Harriet. Love your content. Many thanks

  • @albertoporras04
    @albertoporras04 17 дней назад +3

    A stalk just work better for turn signals than buttons on a steering wheel. On my way home I regularly need to cross a staggered junction (I live in the UK so using UK terminology). That means I have to drive up to a T junction, turn left and then immediately turn right. So I signal left, drive up to the T junction, wind on left hand lock as I start to make the left hand turn, then once I'm half way round the turn I have to unwind the left hand lock and immediately start to wind on right hand lock for the right turn. This means that I have to signal right whilst turning the steering wheel. With a stalk it's easy, as soon as I start to unwind the left hand lock I hit the turn signal to indicate right. With steering wheel buttons not only is the right indicator button in a different location, it's literally a moving target!
    I've heard people say they learn how to do it but i) I doubt they could do the right turn indication as early or as reliably as I can do it with a stalk, and ii) I could probably learn how to juggle whilst riding a unicycle, but why should I? What benefit is there in replacing the indicator stalk with steering wheel buttons?
    I don't think the Cybertruck comparison is valid. As I understand it the Cybertruck is steer-by-wire. I believe the steering ratio is speed variable so it's a "quicker rack" at slower speed. If so you can probably make a 90 degree turn without moving your hands off the wheel, so your hand is always close to the buttons. The Model Y retains conventional steering, with something over two turns lock to lock even at slow speed, so you have to move your hands away from the buttons.

  • @scottb5733
    @scottb5733 16 дней назад +1

    Decades of driving brings an intuitive sweep of the hand to activate the turn signal indicator. I prefer the stalk on my Tesla S and would definitely want a stalk on any future model Tesla that I may buy.

  • @marce8760
    @marce8760 17 дней назад +3

    In my country - and most of Europe - every other junction is a roundabout. Without a stalk it's not just a hassle to find the indicator button on the wheel, it's downright dangerous ime. My guess is that Tesla lost a lot of sales and is backtracking on their decision.

  • @Rob-zombied-b3q
    @Rob-zombied-b3q 17 дней назад +8

    In some regions of the world, they require a stalk.

  • @dialy1
    @dialy1 16 дней назад +1

    The stalk is useless with the yoke since the left hand is always perfectly positioned for the thumb to precisely hit the buttons. On the other hand, the buttons are terrible on a regular steering wheel because the left hand has to reposition itself to find them and no one drives in the 9 to 3 position with a round steering wheel.

  • @garrymullins
    @garrymullins 16 дней назад +1

    I love my stalkless highland but I understand the buttons are not for everybody. Most would prefer stalk for signalling. Especially in places with lots of roundabouts.

  • @jsjs6751
    @jsjs6751 16 дней назад +1

    The reason the stalk is returning probably is that from 2026, Euro NCAP will deduct points if safety features like stalks are missing.
    So thank Europe for the returning stalks.

  • @slopedarmor
    @slopedarmor 16 дней назад +1

    They added a stalk because they dont want to lose sales
    i drive over a roundabout every single time i drive
    every time i drive i start indicating direction with my steering wheel completely upside down

  • @MrBrendanrex
    @MrBrendanrex 16 дней назад +1

    "Hey look, Tesla has done away with stalks and buttons and put everything on a touch-screen. That's so cool, Elon is such a genius"
    "Hey look, Tesla has added a stalk and made it do stuff as well as the touch-screen. That's so cool, Elon is such a genius"

  • @jsjs6751
    @jsjs6751 16 дней назад +1

    A bit disappointed that the new MY did not come with steer-by-wire.
    It's probably also 12 V.
    Sigh... 😥

  • @simpromovie
    @simpromovie 16 дней назад +1

    Thank god the stalk is back again!

  • @curtisyoung7107
    @curtisyoung7107 17 дней назад +2

    I like the turn signal stalk and hope the wiper/washer button continues to be immediately available in a fixed known location. 😉

  • @Light23K
    @Light23K 16 дней назад +1

    If you have one why not have two?

  • @bertwright1790
    @bertwright1790 16 дней назад +1

    After a month and 3000 miles in a Cybertruck I’d rather have the stalk.

  • @johnrowbotham2810
    @johnrowbotham2810 16 дней назад

    The more I see the Juniper and understand the upgrades the more I like it. Can't wait to see it up close I think it will look even better.

  • @spikek12
    @spikek12 15 дней назад +1

    Almost no one wants buttons.

  • @SHardin-pg6ew
    @SHardin-pg6ew 14 дней назад

    Dave and with stock signal sometimes you have to manually switch them turn the off position. you cannot do that with buttons

  • @Anderskars
    @Anderskars 17 дней назад +3

    You need to take a drive in highland in some european cities, and let us know if you still think blinker buttons are a good idea

  • @jimmyers4890
    @jimmyers4890 17 дней назад +3

    A light bar has become standard on most electric cars for the last three years so I don't really consider it a cyber truck carryover. I think too many customers complained about not having a stock on their other refreshed models so for once they actually listened to their customers.

  • @rickmasters418
    @rickmasters418 16 дней назад

    Happy 60th Birthday 🎂 I just subscribed to your channel keep up the good work

  • @arcanernz
    @arcanernz 16 дней назад +1

    I like them bringing back stalks since 99% of drivers are use to stalks and like stalks. I don't like touching capacitive buttons or buttons on screen it's just a bad user experience when you need to keep your eyes on the road. IMO removing buttons/stalks is a way to make the cars cheaper and cut down on parts. I know Tesla is designing their cars so it's fully autonomous but they should remove those buttons after it's autonomous not before since it's going to be 5-10 more years before Teslas are actually autonomous.

  • @moocorp4574
    @moocorp4574 16 дней назад +1

    Stalks are needed in Europe. The only people who don’t want stalks are people who for some reason want a worse product so Tesla can make more money.

  • @kelvynbettridge
    @kelvynbettridge 16 дней назад

    Steering wheel buttons have been redistributed with wipers on left customer buttons are on both sides

  • @bearlemley
    @bearlemley 15 дней назад

    Nice to see the new model Y has a forward, low, camera.

  • @djsUltra
    @djsUltra 17 дней назад +5

    You keep saying it looks like the cyber truck... It clearly looks way more similar to the cybercab. Why not compare to that instead.

  • @kelvynbettridge
    @kelvynbettridge 16 дней назад

    The thing I dont get is that pressing the scroll wheel to enable CC/FSD is far more frustrating than the indicators

  • @jeffreyhampton9130
    @jeffreyhampton9130 17 дней назад +5

    Jeez, is the stalk that big of a travesty?

  • @kelvynbettridge
    @kelvynbettridge 16 дней назад

    Model Y is available for order NOW in Australia Delivery is slated for May due to shipping

  • @DanielWillis-q2g
    @DanielWillis-q2g 17 дней назад

    I remember Sandy found a terminal in the wiring on the CT they tore down and it was labeled for wireless charging.

  • @marks42
    @marks42 15 дней назад

    I am pretty sure it is for coming EU compliance I read something a few months back that they are pushing for certain physical controls to be mandatory. 👍😊 and the rear view looks a lot less bulbous plus the reg plate moved to,the lower black section is much nicer👍

  • @kayz3rkayz3r84
    @kayz3rkayz3r84 16 дней назад +1

    Stalks . What about new
    Batteries technology. 2025 coming with 2020 batteries???

  • @kdungan100
    @kdungan100 17 дней назад +1

    I upgraded from a 2018 to a 2025 Model 3 two months ago. I still greatly prefer the signal stalk. I don’t miss the drive stalk. I would pay for Tesla to add a stalk. I don’t like the after market ones, hoping Tesla offers this in the future. Otherwise, great review!

  • @Emm2004
    @Emm2004 16 дней назад

    a stalk? What a mysterious, unneeded tool. Just say “ok I’m turning now, good luck everyone!”

  • @andyfeimsternfei8408
    @andyfeimsternfei8408 16 дней назад +1

    Why the stalk? Because Elon's out of the way playing president!

  • @gacattack1234
    @gacattack1234 17 дней назад +1

    The stalk is on wrong side for RHD. It's just the LHD setup slid over UK style. I don't know why they don't design a symmetrical stalk mechanism that can be rotated 180° and mounted on the other side. Doing this even retains the correct switching for each indicator direction.

    • @DessieDoolan
      @DessieDoolan 17 дней назад +1

      RHD Teslas have the turn signal stalk on left.

  • @Inspace_noone_can_hear_u_honk.
    @Inspace_noone_can_hear_u_honk. 17 дней назад

    I’d be curious to know if Cybertrucks that struggled in snow had winter tires on. Here in Duluth any truck does worse than cars because they are much heavier and have are harder time stopping once they start sliding around. My Highlander is just garbage in the snow, even in ‘snow mode’, however slapping on Blizzacks turns it into a true snow machine.

  • @pdcweb
    @pdcweb 17 дней назад

    If the vehicle has steer by wire, then stock-less would be fine, but I found the 3-fresh challenging with no stocks in a number of situations.

  • @charleshood
    @charleshood 17 дней назад

    No towing?

  • @mariusmeyer14
    @mariusmeyer14 17 дней назад

    Thanks John for sharing. Yes the new Model Y looks good. I wonder if Tesla were to offer a stalkless option in the configurator like maybe a squircle, how many people will go for it.

  • @58timm
    @58timm 17 дней назад

    I would love to have Stalks for my Model X.

  • @davestr7031
    @davestr7031 15 дней назад

    The best part is no part. Unless all that no part does is save the manufacturer money.

  • @garthharrington9683
    @garthharrington9683 17 дней назад

    Dr. I saw a Cybertruck video showing contacts on the battery pack that were for an additional module to add wireless charging.

  • @joesawyer931
    @joesawyer931 16 дней назад

    I like the looks😊 hope it has 48V.

  • @ivankuljis1780
    @ivankuljis1780 15 дней назад

    @7:54 If the stalk stays for the time being, let it be in the most popular selling car in The World.
    One day soon, there won't even be a Steering Wheel.... for now and into the near future, Tesla could very well offer voice activated indicator turn signals! I'd be happy....just make sure you're turning RIGHT when you say _GO RIGHT!_

  • @mp6756
    @mp6756 17 дней назад

    I know you said the changes are small, but for my taste, it's the first Tesla I actually like the look of.

  • @KJSvitko
    @KJSvitko 17 дней назад +1

    When will the AI5 computer be added. TSMC and Samsung need to speed up production release of new chips.

  • @TrevelyanOO6
    @TrevelyanOO6 16 дней назад

    Have a M3H, hate the lack of stalk. Terrible for indicating on roundabouts, and junctions in Europe that are often on winding roads. Getting the S3XY stalks when they finally release.

  • @Cybertruck_69
    @Cybertruck_69 17 дней назад

    Failing to provide camera washing, heating and maybe even wiper capabilities makes the cameras inadequate for unsupervised FSD for many winter months in many locations around the world.

  • @rmkep
    @rmkep 17 дней назад

    Disagree about the stalk. Power Frunk has been mentioned and apparently is both opening and closing. If true, that is a long overdue feature but a big deal.

  • @antonio_fosnjar
    @antonio_fosnjar 16 дней назад

    Model y is such a backbone to Tesla, they can't take any chances with it. If even few% of costumers don't end up buying it because of the stalks, that's a huge loss. EVs are scarry enough for new buyers as is, this is the best move they could have made honestly.

  • @BrianSFischer
    @BrianSFischer 17 дней назад

    The big question is, Can I transplant those stalks into my Cybertruck?

  • @jpizel1070
    @jpizel1070 17 дней назад

    Complaining about a turn signal stock is wild. I'm glad they left it in the new Y.

  • @MsAjax409
    @MsAjax409 17 дней назад

    I hope there's a stalkless option in the U.S. version.

  • @robertwhite3503
    @robertwhite3503 17 дней назад

    The timing is strange. Unsupervised FSD will be with you in few months so you won't need to use your blinkers. We've introduced a stalk so you can more easily use your blinkers. I suppose the counter argument is that not everyone will buy FSD. But I believe that unsupervised FSD will be the major reason to buy Tesla over anything else.

  • @zachb1706
    @zachb1706 17 дней назад

    The model 3 lost a lot of sales because of its stalkless design. Live anywhere with roundabouts or lots of tight turns and you need them.
    It’s not like they save much money removing it.

  • @DAVEKoehler-v7r
    @DAVEKoehler-v7r 17 дней назад +299

    Awesome coverage of XAI560K. You're not late - just zoom out and look at the big picture. Youve earned yourself a subscriber 😎

  • @michaellatta
    @michaellatta 17 дней назад

    We updated in July, so not compelling now.

  • @1offoriginal
    @1offoriginal 14 дней назад +1

    Bro you sound like a Tesla shil defending the no stock. We need that shifter back too.

  • @dougbeulah2564
    @dougbeulah2564 16 дней назад

    Disappointed in the RANGE ??? I would pay more for longer range.

  • @HughAllen-f5c
    @HughAllen-f5c 15 дней назад

    You ignored one of the major changes - NO TOW HITCH. I ordered this on my 2024 Model Y LR RWD and will not buy any car that does not have one.

  • @Sal3600
    @Sal3600 17 дней назад

    buttons are better than stalks.

  • @health101DOTorg
    @health101DOTorg 17 дней назад

    Over half a Century of muscle-memory using a turn signal stalk, and I like always knowing where my turn signal controller is, and when it's buttons on the steering wheel, those buttons can be at different places at different times. Sorry, but no. So when I get my Cybertruck, I will be getting an aftermarket turn signal stalk for it. I'm fine with the shifter on the screen.

  • @Peter-hg2oc
    @Peter-hg2oc 17 дней назад

    Honestly I was expecting a bit more range and charging speed. Lots of new Chinese cars with similar or better specs. What about V2X?

  • @Cybertruck_69
    @Cybertruck_69 17 дней назад

    68/136 comments are bots.
    Nice work RUclips!!!

  • @wickham53
    @wickham53 17 дней назад

    2024 Model 3 has no acceleration boost option. Probably the same for new Y

  • @tkbuz
    @tkbuz 17 дней назад

    I suppose you could just take a hacksaw to the stalk if you really don’t like it…

  • @TheTrumptyDance
    @TheTrumptyDance 17 дней назад

    Like how they use china to work out the kinks. Worth waiting for them to be worked out before buying one here in the USA

  • @SHardin-pg6ew
    @SHardin-pg6ew 14 дней назад

    Columns doctor time tested and true proven to be reliable. Buttons are fairly new technology in a car as far as turning signals go. Buttons can get stuck.

  • @noCOtwo
    @noCOtwo 17 дней назад

    The wife's test: Our new Highland doesn't have a stalk, it's OK. Jeannine

    • @kermit7608
      @kermit7608 17 дней назад

      Depends where you live/drive

  • @fredt7518
    @fredt7518 17 дней назад

    Was not a necessary fight to have for the 2 or 3 years left to Tesla to build cars apart robotaxis….

  • @alanmcivor2916
    @alanmcivor2916 17 дней назад

    I don't think we will see the stalks on the USA models. Some countries require them
    by law.

  • @thomasok100
    @thomasok100 16 дней назад

    For pity’s sake, enough about the stalk. You don’t need to repeat your dislike over and over. I have a 2024 Model 3 and I’m fine without the stalk, but a number of people have complained about it-especially in countries with lots of roundabouts. In the US, or at least in my part in suburban Detroit, most people seem to have no idea about how to drive in and through roundabouts so turn signal use is one of the last things to worry about. Other places are more strict about turn signal usage on them. In the end the only reasons Tesla would put a stalk on is that it is required or will sell more vehicles. I suggest you just get over it.

  • @Peter-hg2oc
    @Peter-hg2oc 17 дней назад +2

    Having a stalk is the best feature, I’ve also ordered stalks for my model 3 from Enhance.

  • @pauld3327
    @pauld3327 17 дней назад

    I woudn't buy a car that doesn't have an indicator stalk.
    Cybertruck is different because it has steer by wire

  • @TugbaSimender
    @TugbaSimender 17 дней назад +281

    XAI560K is getting ready to skyrocket to the moon

  • @SuperUbuntudude
    @SuperUbuntudude 16 дней назад

  • @SenorSchnitz
    @SenorSchnitz 15 дней назад

    Cylon? It looks more like Maximilian from THE BLACK HOLE...

  • @collegepros
    @collegepros 17 дней назад +1

    What a joke. “All these improvements increase range”. The range improvement is pathetic! The new Model Y should have 400 miles of range at the base model. Such a disappointment. All the other features are nice. Not sure why Elon thinks that the US doesn’t want more range. 🤦‍♂️

    • @viewer_5714
      @viewer_5714 17 дней назад +2

      The waste of battery is a result of increasing range to 400 and the car becomes heavy.

  • @pierreblattner4527
    @pierreblattner4527 16 дней назад

    hopefully blinker stock is back!!! Your reflection is totaly stupid!!

  • @daverobert7927
    @daverobert7927 17 дней назад

    Just another car.....

  • @air54plane
    @air54plane 17 дней назад +1

    Your 60?

  • @pedipedi9559
    @pedipedi9559 16 дней назад

    Tesla fan boy 😂