The flickering in Indiana Jones also happens on Windows. Don't forget that games running on Proton will have the same bugs as the Windows versions. You can't assume that a flaw is related to running it on Proton without testing it on Windows. And BTW, the Indiana Jones flickering problem is intermittent. Sometimes you launch the game and it has the issue. Just close and re-open it, and more often than not, the problem is not there the second time you launch it.
As I understand it, most of Indiana Jones' problems are related to api violations, for which some quirks have already been done. However, the developers could have done this due to poor vulkan driver implementations on windows
Is there a fix for Indy? The game runs fine on Windows for me. But playing the game on Fedora, it just doesn't work. I will be making a video soon regarding it on my channel. However, from my testing of the game, it's completely broken for me.
A little more than 20 years ago, I was angry that my father had Red Hat Linux with KDE installed on our family computer, specifically because I couldn't play Unreal Tournament and Fallout. Today, I'm running Arch Linux with KDE on my own machines, and playing all of my games without fail. Oh, how times change...
@@realchoodle only because most people are idiots that's not an excuse to become one. Consumer Exploitation. Wprker Exploitation and the gloabal rise of Facism all the result of Intellectual Slothism and Consumerist indoctrination.
8:37 as far as I know, Genshin Impact works fine on Linux without much tweaking. Yes, it does have a kernel level anti cheat, but they haven't banned anyone in 4 years of the game's existence. It's the same for HoYoverse's other games such as Honkai: Star Rail (they have banned some accounts back then when the game just came out, but now it's fine) and Zenless Zone Zero which worked since day one of the game's launch.
genshin works because due to something windows related that blocks the kernel part of the AC, so hoyo just made genshin launch even if the kernel part is not loaded, thus it works under wine
Honestly, just turn off the Vulkan shader pre-caching, you probably won't even notice a difference (except for not having to wait ages for them to build).
This is what I did after researching it a bit. From what I gathered from threads and such, it's not really necessary anymore. Although there's a few caveats that I don't quite remember.
I've read that when using vanilla proton, disabling shader pre-caching can mess with some encodee videos. So you would need to use Proton GE to be safe. To be fair anyone that has done any research on Proton is probably using GE anyway but it will be an issue for newer users
While doing that on somewhat modern hardware is more than ok. The shaders do have to be compiled while the game runs. On LowEnd Hardware this can be very noticeable. For example, when i try to play Metal Gear Rising on my Potato laptop, and i dont pre-cache the shaders, the game - especially in in-game rendered cutscenes - becomes a laggy mess. But with prechached shaders, the game runs smoothly with my fps target. You dont skip compiling shaders, you just do it while running the game. So slower hardware will have massive problems
8:40 It took my by surprise to see Genshin on this video cause I've been playing it for like a month now after switching from Windows 3 months ago and it works perfectly without any problems. I just used Heroic Launcher. Destiny 2 however, yeah... though I think it's important to mention that Destiny 2 has been so needlessly overbearing on their anti cheat shenanigans for years, so much so that you couldn't even capture the game window with OBS on Windows. You had to do desktop capture for that one game cause it wouldn't allow absolutely anything to hook into it.
Someone mentioned it not working and I just ckecked on my system. Epic Games Store Version (probably a giveaway as that's not my kind of game) via Heroic works with no problems here. Genshin Impact (App name: 41869934302e4b8cafac2d3c0e7c293d | Version: 97) CPU: 32x AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core Processor Memory: 67.34 GB (used: 11.69 GB) GPUs: GPU 0: Name: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 21 [XFX Speedster MERC319 Radeon RX 6950 XT] IDs: D=73a5 V=1002 SD=6950 SV=1eae Driver: amdgpu OS: TUXEDO OS 24.04.1 LTS (linux) The current system is not a Steam Deck We are running inside a Flatpak container Software Versions: Heroic: 2.15.2 Emeth Legendary: 0.20.36 Urban Flight (Heroic) gogdl: 1.1.2 comet: comet 0.1.2 Nile: 1.1.2 Will A. Zeppeli
The only games not playable on Linux aren't worth going to Windows either. At this point it's just the triple A slop and asian pay2win games that try to lock out Linux players.
Marvels Rivals crash on Windows on my pc an runs flawlessly on SteamDeck. Linux/wine supports better Windows API than windows 11 itself. I think SteamDeck is the only console that you can play all assasins creed games without needing to buy a "retro pc" for running the games natively. You can run windows 95, windows xp, windows 7 games without having to install that OS or a virtual machine.
Genuine question. I keep seeing ppl processing vulkan shaders, but I thought they updated that months ago to process in real time way faster? Like I haven't had it turned on in Steam for 2 years now and every game runs fine?
I am experimenting in running win95/98 games (with 3dfx acceleration) under Linux (Bazzite) using Lutris, since later version of Windows are incompatible with them. I succeeded running games like DID's F-22 ADF or Ubisoft's Sub Culture. But I have stumbled on CD emulation: Many games need the CD in the drive for a cd check or I need to mount a cd image other than iso (cue/bin, mds/mdf). I am still in the lookout for a utility like Daemon Tools or WinCDEmu.
It sucks that i have to keep windows around for gta online and destiny. Just had a blast with 3 of my friends messing around in gta today and it just makes me wish i could run it on my main system with my main os (arch btw). I have a cheap pc build running windows that i control with sunshine/moonlight specifically just for those two games.
My main pc is disassembled , so i have been using mostly my laptop to play , and i run debian on it, it has an i5 1335u and a intel iris xe 80eu as the igpu, 32gb ram ... im not using the newest xe module but just with mesa .. i have nothing but praises for the current state of gaming on linux.. i can play my stuff easy and withouth much hiccups ... i hope some compannies took a different aproach on linux gaming when it comes to support or anticheat, because there are some games i love that i cant play because of the anticonsumer tactics and lack of support on linux .. but still for the games that do work , im more than happy ...
Saying "some AAA devs use an anticheat that is compatible with linux but choost not to" is a truth with a HUGE modification. He is talking about EAC, and that they have a checkbox for "linux support". What he fails to mention is by clicking that box, you remove more than 50% of functionality of EAC... So lets say Call of Duty were to use EAC and activate that option. 95% of cheaters being detected today would go unnoticed. It's not "just a switch", it is WAY more complicated than that. But with money, it COULD be fixed. It's just that it is WAY cheaper for the corporations to instead force a root kit onto the user. Greed...
I would like to add the case of NBA 2k25 with 2KSports. They supported steamdeck day one because is the only handheld that run their new game engine. Not sure really why supporting Linux was their priority bussiness wise but I think is because there are a lot of stramdeck players on NBA2K25. They changed anticheat to easy-anticheat 1 month ago and they did it day one for Linux because the development and bussiness team believes on Linux being a viable platform. I know 2KSports is not the best company and they want my money, but they support Linux and steamOS.
It seems windows is dropping support for kernel level access in the future. But the transition will be slower cause of implications. Though it might bring games back to Linux too.
the article that spread that claim misread its source it was using. could easily see the youtubers who were just pumping stuff out judging by titles and no prior research.
Dragons Dogma 2 ... is famous as a stuttering mess... so .. have you even checked back in a 1:1 Basis with Windows. there is a huge chance, that it is just the game that is stuttering along.
@@aguyininternet632 So, basically the same Performance and that amdvlk (which is normally slower and buggyer) is just needed becaus radv (which is the vulkan implementation for games) just needed a patch. where you on a rollin release or point release distro?
@methos1024 Arch Linux with CachyOS kernel, for some reason there is no patch on my knowledge for DD2 and also for some reason AMDVLK works just as well RADV on DD2, but i could be wrong tho, since i just gived up the game because of the stuttery mess that it is on my configs.
@@aguyininternet632 may be true at that point in time. In General radv is faster and with less bugs for games, amdvlk should have better kompatibility and stbility for professional workloads
Honestly I see it as a positive that those money grab live "service" games don't run on Linux. No one should waste tere lifetime and money on this garbage. Client side "anti-cheat" or rather spyware because that's what it is should have been refused by the customer to begin with and you can be very sure that no developer will bend over backwards to accommodate this stupidity. As a side note both BattleEye & Easy-Anti-Cheat are supported via Proton and games that uses those have to explicitly disable the ability to run on proton. It's a deliberate choice by the game studio/publisher. If they brick your game ask for your money back.
Speaking of popular multiplayer games running on Linux, I recently found a video where some guys were trying out Mint vs Bazzite and they were running Halo Infinite and The Finals without any issues. I was surprised that those games were running that well on an extremely budget PC. The video is by the channel named "Tosty Bros" -> ruclips.net/video/5-Z4txj9t7s/видео.htmlsi=IKvASiAdq-ax9vjZ
The flickering in Indiana Jones also happens on Windows. Don't forget that games running on Proton will have the same bugs as the Windows versions. You can't assume that a flaw is related to running it on Proton without testing it on Windows. And BTW, the Indiana Jones flickering problem is intermittent. Sometimes you launch the game and it has the issue. Just close and re-open it, and more often than not, the problem is not there the second time you launch it.
Hm, that's actually makes a lot of sense!
I bought the game assuming my GPU would be OK. Not so. Gtx 1080. On the hunt for a new GPU.
As I understand it, most of Indiana Jones' problems are related to api violations, for which some quirks have already been done. However, the developers could have done this due to poor vulkan driver implementations on windows
The green eyes glitch was FIRE though
Is there a fix for Indy? The game runs fine on Windows for me. But playing the game on Fedora, it just doesn't work. I will be making a video soon regarding it on my channel. However, from my testing of the game, it's completely broken for me.
A little more than 20 years ago, I was angry that my father had Red Hat Linux with KDE installed on our family computer, specifically because I couldn't play Unreal Tournament and Fallout.
Today, I'm running Arch Linux with KDE on my own machines, and playing all of my games without fail.
Oh, how times change...
Your father was well ahead of his time!
If I have to give a company full access to my computer in order to play their game online, I'd rather stay as we are.
As I said in an other comment I actually see it as a feature that this garbage is not running on Linux.
I agree, but keep in mind that you are likely in the minority; LoL alone not working would be a massive issue for many gamers.
@@realchoodle only because most people are idiots that's not an excuse to become one. Consumer Exploitation. Wprker Exploitation and the gloabal rise of Facism all the result of Intellectual Slothism and Consumerist indoctrination.
@@realchoodle Actually the minority are those of you who don't care if you lose your privacy for playing a game.
8:37 as far as I know, Genshin Impact works fine on Linux without much tweaking. Yes, it does have a kernel level anti cheat, but they haven't banned anyone in 4 years of the game's existence. It's the same for HoYoverse's other games such as Honkai: Star Rail (they have banned some accounts back then when the game just came out, but now it's fine) and Zenless Zone Zero which worked since day one of the game's launch.
Apparently the anticheat used to block you under linux, but since a certain update it just does not so you dont even need a patch of any sort.
@@hexxtheswagger5893 Interesting.
genshin works because due to something windows related that blocks the kernel part of the AC, so hoyo just made genshin launch even if the kernel part is not loaded, thus it works under wine
@@Kamion008 Microsoft W
Bro really plays anime gacha simulator 😂😂😂
Honestly, just turn off the Vulkan shader pre-caching, you probably won't even notice a difference (except for not having to wait ages for them to build).
This is what I did after researching it a bit. From what I gathered from threads and such, it's not really necessary anymore. Although there's a few caveats that I don't quite remember.
I've read that when using vanilla proton, disabling shader pre-caching can mess with some encodee videos. So you would need to use Proton GE to be safe.
To be fair anyone that has done any research on Proton is probably using GE anyway but it will be an issue for newer users
While doing that on somewhat modern hardware is more than ok. The shaders do have to be compiled while the game runs. On LowEnd Hardware this can be very noticeable. For example, when i try to play Metal Gear Rising on my Potato laptop, and i dont pre-cache the shaders, the game - especially in in-game rendered cutscenes - becomes a laggy mess. But with prechached shaders, the game runs smoothly with my fps target.
You dont skip compiling shaders, you just do it while running the game. So slower hardware will have massive problems
@@jolukei7148 is it more CPU dependant? What specs is your potato running?
I had no idea that linux gaming was this good. I hope this cuts deep into MSFT market cap.
Linux for the win ❤
GNU/Linux 🤓 ☝️
8:40 It took my by surprise to see Genshin on this video cause I've been playing it for like a month now after switching from Windows 3 months ago and it works perfectly without any problems. I just used Heroic Launcher.
Destiny 2 however, yeah... though I think it's important to mention that Destiny 2 has been so needlessly overbearing on their anti cheat shenanigans for years, so much so that you couldn't even capture the game window with OBS on Windows. You had to do desktop capture for that one game cause it wouldn't allow absolutely anything to hook into it.
Someone mentioned it not working and I just ckecked on my system. Epic Games Store Version (probably a giveaway as that's not my kind of game) via Heroic works with no problems here.
Genshin Impact (App name: 41869934302e4b8cafac2d3c0e7c293d | Version: 97)
CPU: 32x AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 16-Core Processor
Memory: 67.34 GB (used: 11.69 GB)
GPUs:
GPU 0:
Name: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Navi 21 [XFX Speedster MERC319 Radeon RX 6950 XT]
IDs: D=73a5 V=1002 SD=6950 SV=1eae
Driver: amdgpu
OS: TUXEDO OS 24.04.1 LTS (linux)
The current system is not a Steam Deck
We are running inside a Flatpak container
Software Versions:
Heroic: 2.15.2 Emeth
Legendary: 0.20.36 Urban Flight (Heroic)
gogdl: 1.1.2
comet: comet 0.1.2
Nile: 1.1.2 Will A. Zeppeli
1:53 That's more a problem of these Games. On Windows you got the same issues.
I switched to an AM5 system this year from NVIDIA, running Fedora, it's been absolutely night and day. Right now, get an AMD card.
Great video to conclude the year! I remain hopeful that the future release of SteamOS might improve things even further :)
Amazing mustache
It's situational. For example I'm on Linux because the game I play Fallout 76 runs several orders of magnitude smoother on Linux.
It’s crazy how far Linux has come.
I've been using the nvidia 3080 on wayland for a few months without any issues.
Linux a lot more and more people in my life keep asking about it and they thinking of switching bc how they of Microsoft privacy invasion lol
The solution to shader compilation is buy a 16 core processor.
Or just check the setting called:
Downloads -> allow background processing vulkan shaders
The only games not playable on Linux aren't worth going to Windows either.
At this point it's just the triple A slop and asian pay2win games that try to lock out Linux players.
Exactly. Fortnite is cringe, Destiny 2 is not good, and the less I say about the Chinese rootkit known as Vanguard, the better.
Marvels Rivals crash on Windows on my pc an runs flawlessly on SteamDeck.
Linux/wine supports better Windows API than windows 11 itself.
I think SteamDeck is the only console that you can play all assasins creed games without needing to buy a "retro pc" for running the games natively.
You can run windows 95, windows xp, windows 7 games without having to install that OS or a virtual machine.
Just btw, you can play genshin in linux with lutris, but idk if there is a chance to get banned.
which linux distro would you rec tho? gonna do my own research but curious what the census is here
turn the vulken shader processing off in steam settings, there is litteraly no reason to do it if your pc isn't older than 10 years
Great video, can anyone tell what's the game at 9:54
Witchfire! Plays like a baby of Destiny and Dark Souls with the Painkiller vibe.
@ReluctantAnarchist aye thanks, will definitely give it a go
I want to build my nephew a linux gaming box
Genuine question. I keep seeing ppl processing vulkan shaders, but I thought they updated that months ago to process in real time way faster? Like I haven't had it turned on in Steam for 2 years now and every game runs fine?
What game is at 10:20 ? Looks like an interesting setting...
It's The Thaumaturge! Wonderful story-driven game with JRPG combat.
@@ReluctantAnarchist Thank you so much man! For taking the time! :)
I am experimenting in running win95/98 games (with 3dfx acceleration) under Linux (Bazzite) using Lutris, since later version of Windows are incompatible with them.
I succeeded running games like DID's F-22 ADF or Ubisoft's Sub Culture. But I have stumbled on CD emulation: Many games need the CD in the drive for a cd check or I need to mount a cd image other than iso (cue/bin, mds/mdf).
I am still in the lookout for a utility like Daemon Tools or WinCDEmu.
I have a question not related with the video, are you an anarchist or it's just the name of your channel?
It sucks that i have to keep windows around for gta online and destiny. Just had a blast with 3 of my friends messing around in gta today and it just makes me wish i could run it on my main system with my main os (arch btw).
I have a cheap pc build running windows that i control with sunshine/moonlight specifically just for those two games.
0:50 what happened to the sky?
That's the in-game filter baked into dead eye mode in Red Dead Redemption.
My main pc is disassembled , so i have been using mostly my laptop to play , and i run debian on it, it has an i5 1335u and a intel iris xe 80eu as the igpu, 32gb ram ... im not using the newest xe module but just with mesa .. i have nothing but praises for the current state of gaming on linux.. i can play my stuff easy and withouth much hiccups ... i hope some compannies took a different aproach on linux gaming when it comes to support or anticheat, because there are some games i love that i cant play because of the anticonsumer tactics and lack of support on linux .. but still for the games that do work , im more than happy ...
i love the fact that BeamNG has NATIVE linux support!
Saying "some AAA devs use an anticheat that is compatible with linux but choost not to" is a truth with a HUGE modification.
He is talking about EAC, and that they have a checkbox for "linux support".
What he fails to mention is by clicking that box, you remove more than 50% of functionality of EAC...
So lets say Call of Duty were to use EAC and activate that option. 95% of cheaters being detected today would go unnoticed.
It's not "just a switch", it is WAY more complicated than that. But with money, it COULD be fixed. It's just that it is WAY cheaper for the corporations to instead force a root kit onto the user.
Greed...
I would like to add the case of NBA 2k25 with 2KSports.
They supported steamdeck day one because is the only handheld that run their new game engine.
Not sure really why supporting Linux was their priority bussiness wise but I think is because there are a lot of stramdeck players on NBA2K25.
They changed anticheat to easy-anticheat 1 month ago and they did it day one for Linux because the development and bussiness team believes on Linux being a viable platform.
I know 2KSports is not the best company and they want my money, but they support Linux and steamOS.
MS Gamepass I think only works on Windows. It's a great value.
It seems windows is dropping support for kernel level access in the future. But the transition will be slower cause of implications. Though it might bring games back to Linux too.
They will never do it since its a competitive advantage for Windows
the article that spread that claim misread its source it was using. could easily see the youtubers who were just pumping stuff out judging by titles and no prior research.
In my experience, GNU/Linux is better than Spyware 11.
btw i use arch linux
hey anyone playing with nvidia and lutris can you help me I am getting "vk khr not supported"
You actualy can play Hoyoverse games like genshin impact on linux and not get banned, just installing it could be tricky
Apart from shader comp. apex ran fine on Linux until they decided to sacrifice us to the AC gods.
Genshin Impact infact does work with Linux
Dragons Dogma 2 ... is famous as a stuttering mess... so .. have you even checked back in a 1:1 Basis with Windows. there is a huge chance, that it is just the game that is stuttering along.
On windows it's a little better, since you don't have to install a secondary driver (AMDVLK) to play it without crashing after some time.
@@aguyininternet632 So, basically the same Performance and that amdvlk (which is normally slower and buggyer) is just needed becaus radv (which is the vulkan implementation for games) just needed a patch. where you on a rollin release or point release distro?
@methos1024 Arch Linux with CachyOS kernel, for some reason there is no patch on my knowledge for DD2 and also for some reason AMDVLK works just as well RADV on DD2, but i could be wrong tho, since i just gived up the game because of the stuttery mess that it is on my configs.
@@aguyininternet632 may be true at that point in time. In General radv is faster and with less bugs for games, amdvlk should have better kompatibility and stbility for professional workloads
@methos1024 Indeed.
Honestly I see it as a positive that those money grab live "service" games don't run on Linux. No one should waste tere lifetime and money on this garbage.
Client side "anti-cheat" or rather spyware because that's what it is should have been refused by the customer to begin with and you can be very sure that no developer will bend over backwards to accommodate this stupidity. As a side note both BattleEye & Easy-Anti-Cheat are supported via Proton and games that uses those have to explicitly disable the ability to run on proton. It's a deliberate choice by the game studio/publisher. If they brick your game ask for your money back.
Everyone is playing Path of Exile 2 ❤😂
💯🔥
can you teach brodie how properly grow facial hair?
Games on Linux violate the GNU philosophy.
If you have fast Internet, GeForce now may be another option for the games that won't run with proton or wine.
Speaking of popular multiplayer games running on Linux, I recently found a video where some guys were trying out Mint vs Bazzite and they were running Halo Infinite and The Finals without any issues. I was surprised that those games were running that well on an extremely budget PC.
The video is by the channel named "Tosty Bros" -> ruclips.net/video/5-Z4txj9t7s/видео.htmlsi=IKvASiAdq-ax9vjZ