“BEYOND THE TOOTH OF TIME” 1963 BOY SCOUTS FILM PHILMONT SCOUT RANCH, NEW MEXICO XD80635

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  • Опубликовано: 12 дек 2024

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  • @HootOwl513
    @HootOwl513 Год назад +10

    Been there. Done that. Expedition 704 Baker, 1964. Not too long after this film was shot. I especially remember the Army surplus bent-plywood pack frames we were issued. Weighed about 8 lbs empty.
    Also we had the latest innovation in lightweight camp gear, then: A cast-Aluminum dutch oven. About 12 lbs. Carried my BSA hand axe. Nobody had ever heard of portable campstoves like the Svea 123.
    My sleeping bag was also state-of-the-art -- for 1942. We hit the Monsoon rains head on. Showers every day. Mountains get cold at night, even in Summer. Had to learn that first hand. Silver dollar sized blisters...
    Damn, I had a great time.
    Too bad about the Kodacolor. All washed out.

  • @michaellinner7772
    @michaellinner7772 Год назад +8

    I know that there were problems with the Boy Scouts, but for the most part, it taught decent values and real-life skills.
    I never cared about getting badges, but I was very interested in learning skills that could help me throughout my life.
    Before I knew how to swim my dad and older brother thought it was a riot pulling me under the water. It was my Scout Master who actually taught me how to swim.
    Thanks, old Dave Brown for actually wanting me to become more capable.

  • @jchi1ds
    @jchi1ds 5 месяцев назад +7

    Philmont Expedition number 1968-129-G2. Just turned 14. What a wonderful gift from my parents.

  • @bossman1974
    @bossman1974 Год назад +8

    I went there summer 🌞 of 1973 and 1974 loads of fun 😊

    • @rtqii
      @rtqii 5 месяцев назад

      Yes, I visited in the summer of 74. It was grand!

  • @howardsutton826
    @howardsutton826 6 месяцев назад +7

    Oh how I would love to go back in time

  • @josephjohnson9805
    @josephjohnson9805 Год назад +8

    Eagle Scout, Was a assistant Scoutmaster for 17 years... I have been to Philmont... The troop in this film has home made equipment. Boy scouts used to make their equipment because of a lack of money...

  • @tymcaster6107
    @tymcaster6107 9 месяцев назад +7

    I saw this film, in ‘69, when I was 12, at a weekly troop meeting - it’s when I fell in love with Philmont. I finally made it there in ‘73. I’m still in love with the place.

    • @ddoggall
      @ddoggall 4 месяца назад

      Same here; I remember vividly going as Weblos into the Boy Scout meeting 'cause they were showing a movie(!). For us it was, "Come On Down!" I was hooked. Worked many seasons and moved out here.

  • @rtqii
    @rtqii 5 месяцев назад +3

    I got to visit Philmont in 74, I was with a group that was traveling and we stopped for a few hours. The driver of our vehicle was an official with the Scouts, and our group got the grand tour of the camp. The scouts were cooking lunch, one group was making pizzas in a giant cast iron dutch oven... We got demonstrations of field skills, fire starting, shelter construction... They had to drag me away by my arm back to the van, I wanted to end the trip right there and stay awhile.

  • @Dagm1111
    @Dagm1111 6 месяцев назад +2

    What a well done film! I especially like the spiritual and life building aspects mentioned. I was a scout from 1969-72ish. I had the opportunity to go to Philmont, but regretfully didn't. When you were introduced to backpacking during youth, I feel the activity as well as nature stays with you. I'm so thankful for my time in scouts. I think it has something to do with the fact that I became a thru-hiker in my late 40's, and not slowing down in my 60's.

  • @benreynolds181
    @benreynolds181 Год назад +3

    I went there in 1991. This was a great look back. Thanks restoring & sharing this film, @PeriscopeFilm.

  • @reubenj.cogburn8546
    @reubenj.cogburn8546 6 месяцев назад +8

    As an eagle scout from 1974, I am here to tell you that these times will never come again.
    Rest in peace Boy Scouts of America.

    • @Reitz86
      @Reitz86 4 месяца назад

      Early 70’s was my time in the scouts as well, my best friend was the blacksmith at Philmont in the 80’s

  • @francisebbecke2727
    @francisebbecke2727 Год назад +6

    Was there the summer of 1969. They woke us up early in the morning to watch the grany pictures of the moon landing.

  • @brianharleg4175
    @brianharleg4175 5 месяцев назад +1

    Better days. Good to see the black troop of scouts.

  • @fpalcic
    @fpalcic 4 месяца назад +2

    As a 1974 eagle scout also I can say that the wilderness environment the youth were, and are, exposed to via Philmont is a rare experience these days. The combination of team work, individual challenge, rugged work, and spiritual focus can change one's life...forever. Spent many years on the trails, in the mountains, on the rivers, in the snow and the results in young people's lives is just plain a miracle from a merciful God. The Boy Scouts have forsaken what is true for what is politically convenient. Lord Baden Powell, Earnest Thompson Seton and the other founders would be crying tears to see what has happened.

  • @johnpichler1268
    @johnpichler1268 9 месяцев назад +2

    Camped at Philmont during this period. Traveled on a Grove River City bus from Butler, Pa. We stayed at army and air force bases. Took about 4 days to get there and 4 days to come home. Some of the bases Ft Ben Harrison, Air Force Academy, Ft Carson, Amarrillo Air Force Base, Ft Leonard Wood, Ft Riley. Still have my Philmont belt and buckle also my patch. Troop 16 Lyndora Pa sponsored by Armco Steel. Pioneer Trails Council.

  • @mrjack8849
    @mrjack8849 5 месяцев назад +1

    When I went as a teenager, I don't think I fully understood what Philmont was. It was a neat experience to go camping somewhere outside of our typical area. And a trial of hiking 75+ miles in a week and a half. Now as an adult, I would give anything to be able to take off from work and do Philmont again. Cheers to the parents and adults who took these young men on these trips over the years. I see so many videos taken along the trail on RUclips now. I wish they wouldn't allow smart phones on the trail. People are missing the point and the experience by not removing that part of their life when staying in this beautiful land.

  • @CoolestDude38NC
    @CoolestDude38NC 3 месяца назад

    Eagle Scout 1987. Went to Philmont twice. First as a camper in 1985...did Trail Crew and the infamous Rayado Trek. When this film was made they called Rayado Trek "The Kit Carson program." Went back summer 1986 to work in Philmont base camp as a staff member. Watching this video, I come away with several observations. First, this depicts Philmont and Boy Scouts pre Vietnam war and before NASA high tech synthetics trickled down to civilian backpackers...things like gore tex, a different era. Second, the equipment used back then... heavier gear, no premo, gucci backpacking gear like we had in the eighties. The Scouts depicted here are using packs still made of canvas...I think aluminum external frame packs had started to become available here. Uniforms are the old school, khaki Scout uniforms. When I went to Philmont, there was still residual hippy or commune culture that had seeped into some Philmont staffers.... something I didnt care for. I also saw real cowboys at Philmont and surrounding areas...I didn't know small numbers of working cowboys existed in the eighties out West. Another thing I learned at Philmont was that the Mormon Church had an extremely strong influence at Philmont and with Boy Scouts generally. I got accepted to be a Philmont Ranger summer 1991, but cancelled my contract last minute... something I regret now.

  • @guldenaydin9918
    @guldenaydin9918 Год назад +4

    😔😔😔...
    Herşey; çok iyi, çok güzel olacak sandığımız çocukluk günlerimiz....

  • @wetcanoedogs
    @wetcanoedogs Год назад

    new went there,canoe trips in canada with my troop.50's early 60's.

  • @YouveBeenMiddled
    @YouveBeenMiddled Год назад

    I don't remember ever having enough energy to stay awake after dark, much less gather a pile of firewood for a giant campfire.

  • @o.c.smithiii2626
    @o.c.smithiii2626 Год назад +1

    Awe- sound drops out for a minute or so 10 minutes in

    • @PeriscopeFilm
      @PeriscopeFilm  Год назад

      Yes unfortunately -- someone won't release the music so it's been muted by RUclips

    • @o.c.smithiii2626
      @o.c.smithiii2626 Год назад

      I visited Philmont as a boy in the 1980’s and this brought back memories. But I don’t remember the gold mine being a possible activity, and I would expect using rock hammers nowadays would be frowned on by the BSA.Thanks for putting it out there.
      I heard that wolves were once essentially eradicated from the area, but that there is a big controversy over a ranch neighbor to Philmont who is reintroducing them.

    • @o.c.smithiii2626
      @o.c.smithiii2626 Год назад +1

      @@PeriscopeFilm boo- I wonder who could possibly object. It obviously was a BSA film, and they must have owned the rights to their film- unless there was a segment with copyright material that was loaned to BSA with express reservations. -
      It would be nice if somehow the V.O. Could be separated from the copyright material, and some free use music, maybe from another part of the film could be dubbed in. And I know this would be incredibly expensive, but color correction and print clean up would really be nice for this film

    • @PeriscopeFilm
      @PeriscopeFilm  Год назад +3

      @@o.c.smithiii2626 we actually tried to select the "mute music only" option on RUclips -- yes that's a thing! -- but it may not have worked properly. The reason that the music creates issues is that music rights are owned by both the authors of the tunes, and the people who perform them. So, it has nothing to do with the BSA or us, and everything to do with individuals and organizations that decide that they want to make claims on content showing up on RUclips. As far as the color is concerned -- you may not be aware of this but our scanning artist Esteban does a restoration of color on films as we scan them. It's definitely a preliminary pass, as he is trained to create a color pass that allows further tweaking (usually in DaVinci Resolve or similar environments) by our stock footage clients. If you were to look at the original elements we own, you would see that it is entirely red faded to magenta and also faded stock. It's actually miraculous we're able to present what we did, given the condition of the original. Thanks for comment, please subscribe or visit us on Patreon.com/PeriscopeFilm

    • @HootOwl513
      @HootOwl513 Год назад

      @@o.c.smithiii2626 We spent an afternoon panning for placer in July '64.
      What I took away from that experience was striking it rich on gold was a lot more hard work than it looked. I gave my vial of ''gold dust'' away.
      No wolves, but we heard bears outside the tent one night.

  • @TruckingToPlease
    @TruckingToPlease Год назад +2

    After watching this (and Canten Boy) I'd wished my parents had pushed me more towards Scouting.
    There were some eerie reflections to the Hitlerjugend in this video. I wonder how many of these scouts saw action in Southeast Asia five years later and how many came home.

  • @kennethconwell6344
    @kennethconwell6344 4 месяца назад

    😂 I went in 66 this was the film we watched before , notice all hikers construction boots OR army combat boots , no hiking boots like today, plus the frames were different .

  • @rainbowranddy
    @rainbowranddy Год назад

    And none of these young men were ever "molly-coddled".

  • @manhoot
    @manhoot Год назад

    Yippee kai ayyyy

  • @vinceharzewski2778
    @vinceharzewski2778 4 месяца назад

    Audio missing from 9:44 to 12:00.

    • @PeriscopeFilm
      @PeriscopeFilm  4 месяца назад

      Due to a copyright claim by some music library, sigh.

  • @tweygant
    @tweygant Год назад

    Lost sound at 9:37 in

  • @Cabmaker
    @Cabmaker 6 месяцев назад +5

    I remember being in the boy scouts before they got hijacked by the woke crowd now it’s all ruined and would never encourage any of my grandson’s to go in it😢

  • @kevinjhonson5925
    @kevinjhonson5925 Год назад +14

    In 2023 this would be considered toxic masculinity.

    • @eriktout5084
      @eriktout5084 Год назад +1

      I was thinking the same....every child would learn so much from an AWESOME setting !

    • @davidhudson5452
      @davidhudson5452 Год назад

      The snakes and bears are toxic and some of you people

    • @kevinjhonson5925
      @kevinjhonson5925 Год назад

      @@eriktout5084 look how teenagers act nowadays we need this kind of stuff back. They might learn discipline and respect.

    • @davidwitt2188
      @davidwitt2188 Год назад +1

      I don’t see anything toxic here.

    • @CoolestDude38NC
      @CoolestDude38NC 3 месяца назад

      ​@@davidwitt2188me either

  • @jeffhildebrandt9471
    @jeffhildebrandt9471 Год назад

    There is no sansones

  • @naturalobserver1322
    @naturalobserver1322 5 месяцев назад +1

    Yup, back when America live by common sense instead of ridiculous wokness. 😀

  • @JB-rt4mx
    @JB-rt4mx Год назад +3

    Where are all the Black and Hispanic Kids ?

    • @rumpstatefiasco
      @rumpstatefiasco Год назад

      Wherever Blacks and Latinos are, they’re also on First Nations territory, but evidently they don’t rate a mention by most Progressives.

    • @tweygant
      @tweygant Год назад +6

      I saw a black troop about 15 min in

    • @laserbeam002
      @laserbeam002 Год назад +8

      Don't know....Don't care

    • @bossman1974
      @bossman1974 Год назад +4

      It showed a troop of black boy scouts 😊

    • @bpie8390
      @bpie8390 Год назад

      Maybe they're too busy being gangbangers

  • @general1z
    @general1z Год назад +2

    NEVER HEARD OF IT, "JOHN WAYNE" ALSO REFERS TO A "YOUNG MALE" ORGANIZATION, I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME❓❓🤔🤔 LET ME GO ON RECORD AS SAYING I REMEMBER BOTH MY "CUB SCOUT" COMMANDER AND MY BOY SCOUT COMMANDER, BOTH HONORABLE MEN LOOKING BACK, IT'S TOO BAD WHAT HAS HAPPENED SUBSEQUENTLY TO THAT MIND-SET❗❗❗🤔🤔🤔❓❓❓