Great presentation girls. We just got our first DCT (Sante Fe Calligraphy). Im gonna have to retrain my brain on some things when you have been driving for many decades a certain way. That brake hold takes some getting used to sitting there without foot on brake, keep thinking the car is going to rear end the car in front, and the creeping in stop go also. Keep up the good work!
Great video to summarize the don’t, have had my dct in 21 Sorento for 3 years, this video should be mandatory viewing before driving away from the dealership! Thanx’s for all your videos!
No problem! I hope you’re loving the Sorento! I think it’s very important for potential buyers to be aware of the differences in a DCT. A lot of consumers see that it operates like a regular automatic (since there’s no clutch pedal) and don’t think twice about it!
I've been utilizing the Auto Hold function for years. I used to do a lot of driving for my job and continuous stop and go traffic, or having to keep the brake depressed, got very tiring on my foot, and calf muscle. Waiting at traffic lights, waiting in line at a drive thru, rush hour congestion, it all added up. It really gives your leg a break (and apparently the DCT). My new 2024 Santa Fe should be delivered next month so this information is well timed.
I have a 2023 Calligraphy. I love the quick shifts of the DCT. Its also super smooth. I sit in traffic for about 1 hour daily and have learned to use the Auto Hold and minimize the crawling. I rather not have to do that, but i got used to it already. I appreciate you explaining this in such detail and the option to help prolong the life of the DCT. 🎉
Again, a very informative video for us KIA car owners! Thank you very much! And thank you KIA for the Auto Hold feature! Paddle shifters! I've tried them once and it scared me-- mainly because I didn't know how the car would behave when I use it. I hope there'll be a video just all about paddle shifters soon!
Just excellent - spot on - I must be a terrible person as almost no one explains it correctly on the dual clutch but wow - you got it out of the park on this one.
DCT makes infinitely more sense paired with a hybrid system (Niro driver here). The off-the-line uphill part where you're slipping the clutch in a direct motor-to-DCT setup? In a hybrid that 0-10 km/h range is always covered by the electric motor, which has full torque from zero RPM, and so the clutch pack is fully engaged.
Thankyou. New hybrid dct owner here and I've been trying find confirmation of this. So effectively there's no clutch action until the change from 1st to 2nd?
It’s curious it’s in the Santa Cruz and Santa Fe XRT with the new 4,500lb towing. Not really a great trans option for towing. And not that I expect the SC is offroading, that is the idea of trucks, and the DCT would not do well at low speed crawling. There is a time and place for DCT, Hyundai using it in commuter cars for efficiency which I don’t think is the right scenario. Leave it for performance cars. Palisade gets a regular 8 auto, put it in Santa Fe and others as well. The 6spd on classic torque converter paired to hybrid is a better powertrain for non-N Hyundai vehicles. I’m very interested in the upcoming 2.5T HEV power and torque specs
I agree there’s certainly a time and place, I will say the DCT feels really good in the Santa Fe, it’s not choppy or lurch-y like DCT’s of the past. It gives the vehicle an engaging driving feel something that a lot of Auto & CVT SUVs don’t excel in.
Interesting video. Probably 99% of American drivers have no idea what transmission they have: auto, DCT or CVT. Nor do they care. Putting a DCT in a non-performance car adds unnecessary cost and complexity. I will stick with my manual transmission vehicles.
kia and hyundai have very good DCT computers even if the car has no parking brake option. notice on stoplights when brake is fully depressed, the REV meter goes down by .2 or 200rph. that means the DCT is not engaged. that means you dont have to put it on Neutral unless your foot is tired you can put it in P and use the handbrake
4:38 hang on, with a hybrid, isn't regen braking achieved with light brake pedal riding? If going down a steep hill, you can't just let it speed up over the speed limit with gravity then slam the brakes at the bottom of the hill. I've tried gearing down, but that doesn't seem to work with a DCT hybrid like it does with a regular automatic transmission ICE.
As far i can tell from all the research i did coasting is ok Slipping the clutch isn't so using breaks to reduce your minimum speed to even lower from the lowest it will go in 1st gear with acc pedal being pressed
We did this video a while back explaining Kia & Hyundai’s IVT (which is based off the CVT) if you’d like to know more. We also have a podcast episode releasing this Sunday at 9 AM EST going over why CVT’s (and why they get so much hate) ruclips.net/video/HNeRtLI-1e4/видео.html
In my 22 Calligraphy, the first thing I do after starting the car, is engage the auto hold and engine on off buttons. I love auto hold. Pain in the ass having to keep your foot on the brake. My question is, are my brake lights on when in auto hold?
Can I shift into neutral when coasting down an extended downhill? If I don't, after 2-3 brake presses the transmission downshifts into a lower gear than I would like, basically engine braking where you notice the deceleration and rpms. In some cases I suppose this is good (bad weather). Any suggestions how to handle this scenario? Aim is to prolong the life of car (Niro 2020 Phev)
In a downhill, it's better to use the paddles shift to gear down and use the motor in combination with the brake to control the vehicle. Never put it in neutral.
Wish my Genesis G70 had a dual clutch. Transmission in my 2023 G70 sucks and is so clunky. I have a 2023 Santa fe calligraphy and that transmission is so smooth and fast. No jerky lurky crap like in my G70. Makes no sense why they put a dual clutch in a family suv like this, but not a luxury sports car like the G70
@@stevemcurtis I've been driving my 2023 santa fe for 2 weeks now. Even in stop and go traffic the transmission is smooth as butter. I don't get why everyone complains about them being jerky. I literally havnt even felt the transmission move since owning this car.
I bought a Kia/Sportage SUV, with a serial number U5YPV81D5RL229367, classify MPV, produced Oct/2023 in Slovak Republic. I would like to know what type of transmission my car is equipped with, is it DCT or another type of transmission? Ahmed Al-saffar/Iraq
I am getting the impression DCT has a limited life compared to normal auto transmission. My 2017 SORENTO HAS 200000 Ks on the clock which i doubt a DCT could handle.
Being different doesn't mean worse. It's a matter of choice. DCT is way smoother and gear changes faster and more fuel efficient, when compared to a torque converter. Yes that comes with less lifetime. It's simply the choice the brand went with. They wanted a sportier feel for the cars. I like it more.
At 7 DCT, if you wait at the traffic light in drive, you destroy the clutch. It's like a manual gearbox where you press the clutch pedal. At 8 DCT, I don't know exactly.
If you (really) hold the brake pedal down, the DSG mechatronics disengage the gear and put the vehicle in neutral, and this is combined with the auto-hold system. The gearbox is destroyed in this situation in older torque converter automatic vehicles, without control unit or mechatronics.
I wouldn’t necessarily say problems, but there are certainly things that make it different than a traditional automatic transmission, which most are used to. When drivers don’t know that a DCT requires different driving habits, things can go wrong & premature ware & failure could occur.
Just because you can't drive it, doesn't mean it's bad. All transmissions have their ups and downs. This is more fuel efficient and has a better, quicker gear change. Overall a sportier feel. That comes with less lifetime. But I have absolutely no issues with it. If you're good at driving a manual, then you drive a DCT with no issues. Torque converters are slow,bigger fuel consumption, and they can still be faulty and wear. This is just one of many transmission types. Stop the hate and just buy something else.
The very FIRST and only commercial cars available with a DCT was One model of VW, and the 2004 Audi TT. I gave them a year to work out any unexpected kinks and bought a 2005 TT Quattro with their DSG. Everyone told me it was madness. That it would cost a fortune to replace when it failed. 19 years and 132k miles later, that transmission has been the best performing, most durable, and least expensive transmission I have ever had. Audi’s Own figures show that their DSG required FEWER repairs and resulted in Engines that needed fewer repairs than ANY OTHER TRANSMISSION option, including manuals. Know why? My DSG never lets me run over redline. It never lets me lug the engine. It never forgets to shift into first when I stop. It never grinds a gear. It performs perfect throttle blips to ensure gear speed matching on every shift whether shifting up or down. In sport mode it delays shifting to redline to create stunning performance, in drive mode it will shift into 6th gear at 35 mph, and hand me a fuel economy of 31 mpg on my 250 hp, 3.2L six. It allows me to drive it like an auto, except it’s a high performance auto, so I can have coffee on my commute and not wear myself out shifting in heavy traffic. But at the Tap of a paddle shifter it hands me instantaneous control of perfect shifting far faster than the best manual. In short, it protects both itself and my engine and driveline from ME. From the exuberant mistakes that every manual driver makes constantly, with STILL performing like a manual. It was so good, Porsche demanded a 7 speed version for their lineup, and Bugatti got one to handle the 1000 hp of the Veyron. Since then, they have proliferated because they have proven to be the best, most reliable, ICE transmission ever devised.
This video is non-sense. Just drive a dual-clutch like any other transmission. Btw- the Hyundai programming rarely slips the clutch even at slow speeds.
This is absolutely not nonsense. You are more than welcome to drive however you’d like BUT, DCT’s do behave differently & drivers should know this. Hyundais programming can only do so much, incorrect use (especially in the 7 speed dry-type DCT) is certainly capable of slipping!
I have to manoeuvre up a tight drive way with very little space either side (wing mirrors folded), how can I best do this in my DCT Kona if I cant 'creep' using the brake to keep my speed very slow?
Pulling into my pathetic excuse of a garage I also have the same problem. Gotta squeeze in there very carefully while riding the brake the whole time... Oh well, good thing I have a lifetime powertrain warranty on my santa fe lol
This is kind of a “you gotta do what you Gotta do” situation. Obviously, sometimes the standard reverse speed is a little too much, and you need to slow yourself down with the brake. Doing so won’t ruin your car, it’s only for a short amount of time. It’s far more detrimental when people use this for driving in stop and go conditions for extended periods of time.
Great presentation girls. We just got our first DCT (Sante Fe Calligraphy). Im gonna have to retrain my brain on some things when you have been driving for many decades a certain way. That brake hold takes some getting used to sitting there without foot on brake, keep thinking the car is going to rear end the car in front, and the creeping in stop go also. Keep up the good work!
Great video to summarize the don’t, have had my dct in 21 Sorento for 3 years, this video should be mandatory viewing before driving away from the dealership! Thanx’s for all your videos!
No problem! I hope you’re loving the Sorento! I think it’s very important for potential buyers to be aware of the differences in a DCT. A lot of consumers see that it operates like a regular automatic (since there’s no clutch pedal) and don’t think twice about it!
I've been utilizing the Auto Hold function for years. I used to do a lot of driving for my job and continuous stop and go traffic, or having to keep the brake depressed, got very tiring on my foot, and calf muscle. Waiting at traffic lights, waiting in line at a drive thru, rush hour congestion, it all added up. It really gives your leg a break (and apparently the DCT). My new 2024 Santa Fe should be delivered next month so this information is well timed.
I have a 2023 Calligraphy. I love the quick shifts of the DCT. Its also super smooth. I sit in traffic for about 1 hour daily and have learned to use the Auto Hold and minimize the crawling.
I rather not have to do that, but i got used to it already. I appreciate you explaining this in such detail and the option to help prolong the life of the DCT. 🎉
Love the Blooper at the end!
In creeping(slow-moving) or stop-and-go situations, you just use smart cruise control.
It is very easy and more comfortable.
LOVE THE BLOOPER!
Haha i feel you’re the only one who stuck around for it
I do not drive manual transmission, but I learn a lot about dual clutch. Now, I feel comfortable driving one.
Again, a very informative video for us KIA car owners! Thank you very much! And thank you KIA for the Auto Hold feature!
Paddle shifters! I've tried them once and it scared me-- mainly because I didn't know how the car would behave when I use it. I hope there'll be a video just all about paddle shifters soon!
Glad it was helpful! We can certainly film a video on paddle shifters!
Just excellent - spot on - I must be a terrible person as almost no one explains it correctly on the dual clutch but wow - you got it out of the park on this one.
Thank you so much!
Very helpful I didn’t know the dual clutch took care of even an odd numbers of gears✅😁😻😻
DCT makes infinitely more sense paired with a hybrid system (Niro driver here). The off-the-line uphill part where you're slipping the clutch in a direct motor-to-DCT setup? In a hybrid that 0-10 km/h range is always covered by the electric motor, which has full torque from zero RPM, and so the clutch pack is fully engaged.
Indeed! Crawling, low speed and even reverse are all handled by the electric motor! Makes a huge difference
Thankyou. New hybrid dct owner here and I've been trying find confirmation of this. So effectively there's no clutch action until the change from 1st to 2nd?
Zero issues in my '19 ioniq hybrid 6spd DCT @96k never had a single issue with the vehicle.... but it was made in Korea not mexico
It’s curious it’s in the Santa Cruz and Santa Fe XRT with the new 4,500lb towing. Not really a great trans option for towing. And not that I expect the SC is offroading, that is the idea of trucks, and the DCT would not do well at low speed crawling.
There is a time and place for DCT, Hyundai using it in commuter cars for efficiency which I don’t think is the right scenario. Leave it for performance cars. Palisade gets a regular 8 auto, put it in Santa Fe and others as well.
The 6spd on classic torque converter paired to hybrid is a better powertrain for non-N Hyundai vehicles. I’m very interested in the upcoming 2.5T HEV power and torque specs
I agree there’s certainly a time and place, I will say the DCT feels really good in the Santa Fe, it’s not choppy or lurch-y like DCT’s of the past. It gives the vehicle an engaging driving feel something that a lot of Auto & CVT SUVs don’t excel in.
Interesting video. Probably 99% of American drivers have no idea what transmission they have: auto, DCT or CVT. Nor do they care. Putting a DCT in a non-performance car adds unnecessary cost and complexity. I will stick with my manual transmission vehicles.
I love dual clutches.
i love cute girls and fast cars
kia and hyundai have very good DCT computers even if the car has no parking brake option. notice on stoplights when brake is fully depressed, the REV meter goes down by .2 or 200rph. that means the DCT is not engaged. that means you dont have to put it on Neutral unless your foot is tired you can put it in P and use the handbrake
Great video. Very on point!
4:38 hang on, with a hybrid, isn't regen braking achieved with light brake pedal riding? If going down a steep hill, you can't just let it speed up over the speed limit with gravity then slam the brakes at the bottom of the hill. I've tried gearing down, but that doesn't seem to work with a DCT hybrid like it does with a regular automatic transmission ICE.
This was so informative. Loved the content
If you have the choice of getting a manual instead, save them, especially the N models
What about coasting in traffic? I like to hang back in traffic and let off brake and just slowly coast up to cars ahead or along with slow traffic.
As far i can tell from all the research i did coasting is ok
Slipping the clutch isn't
so using breaks to reduce your minimum speed to even lower from the lowest it will go in 1st gear with acc pedal being pressed
Coasting is fine. It would be crazy if you always had to be in the gas.
Nice shiny shoes!
Driving in heavy traffic seems like it would be horrible for this type of traffic.
Thank you
Should of just used the palisade transmission on the santa fe. Its not a race car. Its a family SUV.
what automatic transmission do you think lasts? 8spd DCT or the conventional 8spd?
conventional ofc. but dct is more fun. tbh, if u keep your cars under 100k-150k miles before switching, it doesn't mattter.
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Learned something new. Curious if DCT and CVT are mutually exclusive ?
COMPLETELY different things.
Very very very different!
We did this video a while back explaining Kia & Hyundai’s IVT (which is based off the CVT) if you’d like to know more. We also have a podcast episode releasing this Sunday at 9 AM EST going over why CVT’s (and why they get so much hate)
ruclips.net/video/HNeRtLI-1e4/видео.html
Polar opposites…CVT suck. Unless your not a car enthusiast then their fine.
A Porsche! Nice one ladies.
Thank you!
@@BrantfordKiaif you get a Genesis G80 v8 on the lot, would be great to see a review on that.
DCT are not all the same.Tucson 7 DCT is dry and Kia 8 DCT is wet.
VW also has dry and wet DSG gear systems.
In my 22 Calligraphy, the first thing I do after starting the car, is engage the auto hold and engine on off buttons. I love auto hold. Pain in the ass having to keep your foot on the brake. My question is, are my brake lights on when in auto hold?
Great question! Yes auto-hold keeps your brake lights on!
Nice explanation.....thks
Thanks for watching!
Can I shift into neutral when coasting down an extended downhill? If I don't, after 2-3 brake presses the transmission downshifts into a lower gear than I would like, basically engine braking where you notice the deceleration and rpms. In some cases I suppose this is good (bad weather). Any suggestions how to handle this scenario? Aim is to prolong the life of car (Niro 2020 Phev)
In a downhill, it's better to use the paddles shift to gear down and use the motor in combination with the brake to control the vehicle. Never put it in neutral.
Thanks for the information. My 2025 K5 GT will have a DCT…
Jeezus. You are in every channel out there. We get it, you want the whole world to know you'll get the K5 🤦🏽
@@porfiriato84 A little touchy aren’t you!
@@MartyOToole-w5qnot at all. It's just weird that you have a need to post on every k5 video that ur getting one. Nobody cares?
@@porfiriato84 Are you jealous!?!
I care and I'm happy for you enjoy it
Better to use sports mode in these conditions
Wish my Genesis G70 had a dual clutch. Transmission in my 2023 G70 sucks and is so clunky. I have a 2023 Santa fe calligraphy and that transmission is so smooth and fast. No jerky lurky crap like in my G70. Makes no sense why they put a dual clutch in a family suv like this, but not a luxury sports car like the G70
Look into a TCM tune
The Kia Stinger didn’t get a DCT either! I would’ve loved to see it as an option. Glad you enjoy the feel of your Santa Fe though!
Sir! Your g70 could have had a MANUAL!
Don't kid yourself...every DCT I've had (Including a Kia Forte GT) has been very jerky. Be careful what you wish for.
@@stevemcurtis I've been driving my 2023 santa fe for 2 weeks now. Even in stop and go traffic the transmission is smooth as butter. I don't get why everyone complains about them being jerky. I literally havnt even felt the transmission move since owning this car.
I bought a Kia/Sportage SUV, with a serial number U5YPV81D5RL229367, classify MPV, produced Oct/2023 in Slovak Republic. I would like to know what type of transmission my car is equipped with, is it DCT or another type of transmission?
Ahmed Al-saffar/Iraq
Hi! We're not able to look up your VIN - however, the Sportage is equipped with an 8-speed automatic.
Thanks for the video! My 2025 K5 GT will have a DCT…
Gabby make your own channel! 😭
ngl, thinking of buying a dct and was worried.... i don't do any of these nonos in a freaking automatic........
Why a DCT for an SUV? Seems DCT is designed for performance vehices. and is easy to damage.
I am getting the impression DCT has a limited life compared to normal auto transmission. My 2017 SORENTO HAS 200000 Ks on the clock which i doubt a DCT could handle.
Being different doesn't mean worse. It's a matter of choice. DCT is way smoother and gear changes faster and more fuel efficient, when compared to a torque converter. Yes that comes with less lifetime. It's simply the choice the brand went with. They wanted a sportier feel for the cars. I like it more.
At 7 DCT, if you wait at the traffic light in drive, you destroy the clutch. It's like a manual gearbox where you press the clutch pedal. At 8 DCT, I don't know exactly.
Not if you are fully depressed on the brake.
If you (really) hold the brake pedal down, the DSG mechatronics disengage the gear and put the vehicle in neutral, and this is combined with the auto-hold system. The gearbox is destroyed in this situation in older torque converter automatic vehicles, without control unit or mechatronics.
The DCT has some problems......yes or no???
Short answer yes. There are been several updates with kia/ Hyundai DCTs and they have gotten better.
I wouldn’t necessarily say problems, but there are certainly things that make it different than a traditional automatic transmission, which most are used to. When drivers don’t know that a DCT requires different driving habits, things can go wrong & premature ware & failure could occur.
Yes
Yes it has had issues. Most recently one in a 2024 Santa Fe with less than 30 miles!!
That was definitely a ‘lemon’ happens to all makes and models unfortunately.
my attention span doesnt waver if the ones presenting are this pretty 😍😍😍😍
She talks to fast
First !
If you’re not first …
@@BrantfordKia you end up working in parts
Why does a Porsche appear in this video cover?
Did you watch the video lol?
I’m sitting in a 911 that is equipped with PDK… (Porsches Dual Clutch)
@BrantfordKia I'm pretty sure the English translation of PDK is Pretty Damn Kwik 😉
@@andrewsbbq not really, but i'll watch soon.
@@2301945 lol well that’s like asking why a picture of something is on the cover of a book before reading it.
A DCT should be treated more as a warning than a feature. No... just no.
Just because you can't drive it, doesn't mean it's bad. All transmissions have their ups and downs. This is more fuel efficient and has a better, quicker gear change. Overall a sportier feel. That comes with less lifetime. But I have absolutely no issues with it. If you're good at driving a manual, then you drive a DCT with no issues. Torque converters are slow,bigger fuel consumption, and they can still be faulty and wear. This is just one of many transmission types. Stop the hate and just buy something else.
The very FIRST and only commercial cars available with a DCT was One model of VW, and the 2004 Audi TT. I gave them a year to work out any unexpected kinks and bought a 2005 TT Quattro with their DSG. Everyone told me it was madness. That it would cost a fortune to replace when it failed.
19 years and 132k miles later, that transmission has been the best performing, most durable, and least expensive transmission I have ever had.
Audi’s Own figures show that their DSG required FEWER repairs and resulted in Engines that needed fewer repairs than ANY OTHER TRANSMISSION option, including manuals.
Know why? My DSG never lets me run over redline. It never lets me lug the engine. It never forgets to shift into first when I stop. It never grinds a gear. It performs perfect throttle blips to ensure gear speed matching on every shift whether shifting up or down. In sport mode it delays shifting to redline to create stunning performance, in drive mode it will shift into 6th gear at 35 mph, and hand me a fuel economy of 31 mpg on my 250 hp, 3.2L six. It allows me to drive it like an auto, except it’s a high performance auto, so I can have coffee on my commute and not wear myself out shifting in heavy traffic. But at the Tap of a paddle shifter it hands me instantaneous control of perfect shifting far faster than the best manual.
In short, it protects both itself and my engine and driveline from ME. From the exuberant mistakes that every manual driver makes constantly, with STILL performing like a manual.
It was so good, Porsche demanded a 7 speed version for their lineup, and Bugatti got one to handle the 1000 hp of the Veyron.
Since then, they have proliferated because they have proven to be the best, most reliable, ICE transmission ever devised.
Things You Should NEVER Do In A Dual Clutch Transmission (DCT):
1) Try to pass my Mazda
I’d try
Good luck!@@BrantfordKia
Just so you know, I had an Elantra and a Santa Fe
before the Mazda and overall they were decent vehicles.😄
I feel like I'd pass you in my Nline, and dog walk you if I had an N
This video is non-sense. Just drive a dual-clutch like any other transmission. Btw- the Hyundai programming rarely slips the clutch even at slow speeds.
This is absolutely not nonsense. You are more than welcome to drive however you’d like BUT, DCT’s do behave differently & drivers should know this. Hyundais programming can only do so much, incorrect use (especially in the 7 speed dry-type DCT) is certainly capable of slipping!
" #women... " Just don't. Cut the BS.
Pardon?
How did your mom manage to make you this dumb?
I have to manoeuvre up a tight drive way with very little space either side (wing mirrors folded), how can I best do this in my DCT Kona if I cant 'creep' using the brake to keep my speed very slow?
Pulling into my pathetic excuse of a garage I also have the same problem. Gotta squeeze in there very carefully while riding the brake the whole time... Oh well, good thing I have a lifetime powertrain warranty on my santa fe lol
This is kind of a “you gotta do what you Gotta do” situation. Obviously, sometimes the standard reverse speed is a little too much, and you need to slow yourself down with the brake. Doing so won’t ruin your car, it’s only for a short amount of time.
It’s far more detrimental when people use this for driving in stop and go conditions for extended periods of time.
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