Ontario SP50: "Hall of Fame Survivor" by Nutnfancy

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  • Опубликовано: 8 янв 2025

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  • @kcadams328
    @kcadams328 13 лет назад +1

    After doing a cold (0 deg F) January weekend hike and failing miserably to harvest wood for a fire, I bought a sawvivor and started researching big blades, thanks to your vids. This is what I bought from Chestnut Ridge along with their kydex sheath last year. Awesome blade, awesome system. Thanks Nutn for getting me on track and squared away. Much respect for what you are doing. By the way I sold my buddy on this exact system when he went with me on my next trip...good fun!

  • @phakeacount2228
    @phakeacount2228 11 лет назад +3

    chop-a-matic, sir chops-a-lot, chop-a-riffic, extreme sharpness advised. Bought one to replace a broken Hoodlum. Got the Chestnut Ridge kydex scabbard, but in truth the new factory scabbard is actually pretty good with two retention snap straps, molle back, and a plastic insert that actually has some retention.

  • @troybv6
    @troybv6 13 лет назад +1

    It's awesome that you give us this kind of information for free, but I'm surprised certain companies don't pay you for this kind of scrutiny on their own products. There is really no body else that examines and compares any product into the depth you do. Thank you for everything you do, I know it's a lot more work than shows

  • @snowpuppy77
    @snowpuppy77 11 лет назад

    I got this knife for Christmas and the sheath has been improved. The sheath now has two retaining straps both with military snaps.

    • @snowpuppy77
      @snowpuppy77 11 лет назад +1

      ***** Yes the SP50 knife I have has a sheath that is an improvement over the one in this video. Mine has two retention straps instead of one and they connect with military button snaps instead of Velcro. Also nice to know that you can buy a Kydex sheath for the SP50 as well from third party if you wanted at Chestnutridge knife shop. I think you can get one for the SP51 as well. I like the stock SP50 sheath and the Mole strap in the back allows it to attach to the side of my Maxpedition Vulture pack securely. Looks like the SP51 is being discontinued so I would get one soon if you are wanting one. Look at the Ontario Website catalog and you will see that a few Gen II knives are no longer in the lineup including the SP51. The SP50 is still in the line and I am sure will be for a long time. I would get the SP51 if chopping is your priority. If splitting wood and slicing are the priority then the SP50 is what I would get. I like the balance of the SP50. It is definitely blade forward when holding the main handle but only slightly blade forward at the finger choil giving at least a bit of nimbleness for the size. If you get an RTAK II I would make sure it is the newer version that is 5160 steel. I do not know much about the RTAK II other than what we see on videos. What every you get it should serve you well and Ontario knife company will stand behind it.

  • @kyle_noseworthy
    @kyle_noseworthy 10 лет назад

    I just bought this knife, due to your review. Thanks for the great coverage! You sold me on this blade!

  • @robkish1646
    @robkish1646 12 лет назад

    Great Job Nutn. Since the release of this video, Ontario has upgraded their sheaths. Two retaining straps with snap closures (no more velcro), a tighter fitting thicker plastic insert with no more rattling, and a lot heavier duty nylon. I love your reviews guys, keep up the good work, and Thank you OKC for finally doing something about the sheaths!

  • @SeansLittleBayofHorrors
    @SeansLittleBayofHorrors 13 лет назад

    Just ordered mine. So I had to come watch all your SP50 videos again. For the 100th time.

  • @monk3ypoop
    @monk3ypoop 13 лет назад

    I love my RTAK II. I have not been disappointed at all. Another great vid Nutn!

  • @paulverisor
    @paulverisor 11 лет назад

    Got a new one of these. Same knife...same sheath but with your suggestion for the retention strap(s). It now has two very nice straps with a snap on each. The liner still has to be reshaped to be right, but overall, I am very pleased with this SP-50. Your great review shaped my decision. I wanted the SYKCO 911 you reviewed but for the price, I felt this SP-50 was a better value for my purposes. Thanks for sharing your experience on here.

  • @CPLBSS88
    @CPLBSS88 12 лет назад

    I just involve my whole family in my activities. The nice thing about prepping the way I do it is that everything i use is dual purpose. Our bug out gear is also our camping gear, my knives are tools, my guns are for security...not collecting. My wife needs to see a purpose for things, hope that helps ;)

  • @bigj687
    @bigj687 13 лет назад

    YES! I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS REVIEW FOR MONTHS!!!! THANK YOU NUTN!

  • @nbdavis47
    @nbdavis47 13 лет назад

    From a fellow officer and CCP holder thank you for all the reviews on the great gear. All my purchases on gear is highly influenced by you and I have always been pleased. My friends look to me for info, but all I do is echo what you say and always direct them to your page. Thanks again for your reviews, philosophy videos and above all your service to our country.
    TNPr Davis

  • @2003rebel
    @2003rebel 11 лет назад

    Just an FYI,,,Just bought this knife and they have indeed updated the sheath a bit. The plastic interior is still loose so with out the straps the knife will fall out of the sheath if held upside down...However they removed the velcro from the straps and have added Snap buttons. Also in this video your sheath only has one strap, the new one actually has to straps both with the snap buttons. So it holds the knife in much better

  • @ajhnson
    @ajhnson 13 лет назад

    I have one of these knives and it is an awesome splitter. The only thing I don't agree with is that the Kraton handle does not absorb shock that well when batoning wood. In fact my hand hurt like heck but I got used to it with a new set of gloves.

  • @uraniumjoe
    @uraniumjoe 12 лет назад

    Thanks for the links to the knife stores, Nutn. Helps a TON!

  • @JackedLobster
    @JackedLobster 13 лет назад

    No joke, the Gen II series is pretty rad. My SP42 has been performing really well.

  • @AussieMark909
    @AussieMark909 13 лет назад

    Looks like it's time for me to get another Ontario Spec Plus. This knife seems too good not to have, and the value is amazing! I have the SP43 and it is a great lightweight 8 inch blade (yes you can have a big blade without big weight). Thankyou to Ontario and Dan Maragni for producing a great range of affordable knives, I'm a fan.

  • @De4thAnge1
    @De4thAnge1 13 лет назад

    MMmmm looks good nutn I think I'm going to have to get one of these as the next blade up in POU from my KA BAR. Cheers for the great vid as always.
    Reppin the New Zealand outdoors love.

  • @Heinrix54
    @Heinrix54 13 лет назад

    Been waiting for you to review another Gen II knife. I bought the SP-46 based on your recomendation and I absolutely LOVE it. In my area I don't need a big survival blade on my trips and the SP-46 is a great balance between size and capabilities. And it's TOUGH. I'm sure the SP-50 is equally awesome!

  • @ACrawford36
    @ACrawford36 13 лет назад

    Just got my Ontario SP50 as a great Christmas present....along with a TNP Fear No Evil tee shirt!

  • @toliverfive
    @toliverfive 13 лет назад

    Thanks Nutn for telling everyone about my secret knife shop. :-)

  • @WhaleBluePRS
    @WhaleBluePRS 12 лет назад

    Made my decision - can't afford a lot of knives:
    Ontario SP50 first and then Cold Steel Leatherneck next. That should give me 2 sizes with similar capabilities and one can be a backup for the other. Eventually, others can/might be added as needed.
    Thank you Nutn!

  • @eliteteutonicknight1
    @eliteteutonicknight1 12 лет назад

    This beats the heavy bowie indefinitely. Not so say the Ka-Bar bowie is a bad knife, but the extra price for the SP50 is VERY well worth it! ;)
    I own both, and I tend to switch back and forth, using the bowie in crappier work/tasks.

  • @reddog694uk
    @reddog694uk 12 лет назад

    Can't believe the duracoat hasn't come off, great vid !!

  • @rtlarc
    @rtlarc 13 лет назад

    Great review, got one based on this review to replace my old KABAR which disappeared while I was moving (a little heartbreak there, was a great knife). Was stuck between this one and a rtak 2 since I don't like swedges on my survival knives and this one won out based on the grip, better guards top and bottom in my opinion, catches better, and the blade being a bit thicker.
    Only complaint, the one I received was needs to be sharpened out of box, an easily remedied problem.

  • @paulie4x1
    @paulie4x1 10 лет назад

    Sorry CoolNick, I didn't read your post before I posted, your absolutly right.

  • @WessexBladesHandMadeKnives
    @WessexBladesHandMadeKnives 13 лет назад

    @slowmotion109 wow $72 is an awesome price..that is like £40 in UK ..but here it's crazy money for USA blades..a Kabar is £72 the RTAKII £135.....so you definitely had a smokin' deal there !!

  • @norwester7018
    @norwester7018 10 лет назад +1

    the SP52/53 are the BEST choppers in the line-up IMO. unless you can't wrap your head around re-curve then it's also the best over-all of the SP Gen II line-up... I only wish they'd make the RTAK II in a .25" blade thickness cause it's one of the best big wilderness knives out there IMO.

    • @aarondavid7149
      @aarondavid7149 9 лет назад +1

      +Nor Wester (4Rescue) I totally agree, the 52 is true 10" and weighs only 2 oz more than the 50. My budddy has an Rtac 2 and our blades are about even in chopping but mine is lighter and thicker, battoning is better and I trust mine more. Not to say the Rtak 2 is not capable but the 52 is really a machette in waiting, I can't believe Nutn didn't review this blade. To me it's more than the Rtak 2 at the same price and lighter. Also different oaks and hickory are my standard of testing in all temps and I just can't make my 52 fail so far.

    • @norwester7018
      @norwester7018 9 лет назад

      Aaron David Nice man, glad to hear you're loving your knife... I'm waiting on some Kryptex Kydex to show up so I can make a new sheath for mine The 52 is one of the best choppers I've EVER had, certainly at the top of it's class (there's a wild looking Schrade with a similar shaped blade that's actually REALLY great too) and just SUCH a great blade. Only gripe I have is I wish it had a real choil, and that the handle was a traditional "slab/screw" type that I could remove and change/make my own cause while it's certainly grippy, I don't like the ring-sections and find they can give me blisters randomly, but overall, it's a BEAST and I love the knife. It's certainly tough as nails too aye. I really liked my RTAK II, but I found the handle kinda weird and overly "chubby" for my hands.

  • @ChromeFreak123
    @ChromeFreak123 13 лет назад +1

    I am not a huge knife guy but I so want this knife. Hi V. : )

  • @hpcrewsmith22
    @hpcrewsmith22 13 лет назад

    I was actually thinking of purchasing this, thanks for reviewing!

  • @Volkovic7013
    @Volkovic7013 13 лет назад

    Nutn is a beast with the videos

  • @zzzombiez
    @zzzombiez 13 лет назад

    Good vid. - At 16:30 you start talking about thicker blades being better for splitting in your experience; In my experience that is half the story, brother - grind and edge geometry need to be mentioned; a thin stock blade with a crappy little grind, similar to a machete, can often totally out-baton these beautiful V-grind heavy blades, without the weight penalty. because the V-grinds have more friction when the wood isn't completely deflected out of contact with the sides of the blade. - Mike

  • @BigOStyle1
    @BigOStyle1 13 лет назад

    Another good review! Thanks for posting. Keep up the good work and keep sharing the knowledge!!!

  • @Ayrton4everrr
    @Ayrton4everrr 11 лет назад

    Nut n fancy, the million dollar question...If you were to be on a deserted island and had one choice of blade to take, which would it be? ... if it is diffucult for you to answer, choose 3 different blades. That is an EDC blade, tactical blade and survival. Thanks ;)

  • @giupio88
    @giupio88 13 лет назад

    I'm going to buy a new wilderness knife but it's hard to chose between Ontario SP50 and Buck's Hoodlum. The SP50 seems stronger (it's thicker and... I've got to tell this: I don't like the Hoodlum nocht on the spine, thou you tested that knife hard+snow&cold). On the other side, I prefer micarta handles and Hoodlum's sheath is just awsome. Suggestions needed (and no: can't afford both:)

  • @t328
    @t328 13 лет назад

    great video!!!! how's allie doing hope well? another home run for tnp

  • @LEGTxSNIPPER1
    @LEGTxSNIPPER1 12 лет назад

    Definitely get the ontario. I personally have both the blades, the ontario out does the heavy bowie by far!

  • @abot19
    @abot19 11 лет назад

    I got a SP52 recently, the sheath is the same but... they are using some kinda super cheap plastic insert now. I had it on my belt and bumped into a tree and it just cracked up into tiny pieces. Turned it upside down and these clear pieces of plastic just all fell out.

  • @dragonlover2211
    @dragonlover2211 11 лет назад

    Honestly this happened a while ago but i have to say i have done plenty of searching for people that give me details that i can trust in short video's and there are absolutely none that i can watch and feel informed after viewing. Only thing i would like is a ranking of the big knives because he sells them so well that i'm having trouble deciding what to buy. In the end best gear reviewer on youtube and for guns tied with hickok45.

  • @zednotzee7
    @zednotzee7 12 лет назад

    You should also check out the Condor Kumunga - about the same price if not cheaper. 10" long, 4 mm thick blade made of 1075 carbon steel. Not exactly tactical looking (if that bothers you), but one hell of a lot of knife for the money. All the reviews on it are very positive. I have one, and I like it.

  • @david37922
    @david37922 13 лет назад

    Another great fixed-blade knife review & very good value. I NEED a big blade, got an SRK (love it) & a RD-7, but bigger is better for backpacking & processing wood. SP50 could be the ticket, but I would rather have an ESEE Junglas. I know the Junglas is 2x the price, but isn't it worth it?

  • @MitchelJacobsen
    @MitchelJacobsen 13 лет назад

    Watching a Nutnfancy review right before bed... The knife will haunt my dreams, and it's not really a bad thing... =)

  • @thomaswillows306
    @thomaswillows306 12 лет назад

    Hi Nutnfancy, sorry for bothering you...But have you ever tried english made blades; I'am talking here about John Nowill Knives-especially british army jungle knife...

  • @Hissatsu5
    @Hissatsu5 13 лет назад

    I don't buy a lot of stuff u review mostly becuz of money issues but I will say ur video on the CS espada played a major part in making my choice on getting one

  • @LVPG2010
    @LVPG2010 13 лет назад

    @pickledbologna I have several Ontario knives, though not the SP50. I also have the CSRS. Both are great. The Ontario has a longer blade, which is nice for "hacking," but the RS has a thicker blade-which makes it baton a bit better. RS has a great plastic sheath; the ontario has a vinyl one. If I were to pick a single company for all-around best survival knife company, I would give it to Ontario- their SPEC-Plus, Ranger and Mr. Randal's RAT series [all produced by Ontario] give it the edge.

  • @CommanderBuurakan
    @CommanderBuurakan 13 лет назад

    I was all into long rifles and iron sights. Now I own carbine with an optic and have 30 odd knives... Thanks NutnFancy -.-

  • @jakecook90
    @jakecook90 12 лет назад

    Hey Nutn! Long time watcher and learner, first time commenter. I have been lusting after the Trailmaster for years since I watched your video, but after watching this one, I am unsure what will be my next big survival knife. How do the two compare to one another?

  • @359badger
    @359badger 13 лет назад

    Nice vid brother, I'll check iit out, I carry my RAT7 when in the bush, I am open minded to high value options and or redundant knife systems

  • @dcalderalo
    @dcalderalo 13 лет назад

    Nutn, if I recall, you really liked the ESEE Junglas. but have never reviewed it. Can we expect a table-top on that knife?

  • @TheWHOdatYAT
    @TheWHOdatYAT 12 лет назад

    I've seen too many positive reviews on this knife to hold out any longer...just purchased.

  • @3riverblades
    @3riverblades 12 лет назад

    Thanks brother Im making the purchase. Im a big blade guy as well!

  • @millster101
    @millster101 13 лет назад

    So far I am sold on the sp 50, after they redo the sheath

  • @SonOfCyrusTheGreat
    @SonOfCyrusTheGreat 12 лет назад

    What's the brand of those great leather gloves?

  • @mjm55
    @mjm55 11 лет назад

    What's the difference between the SP50 and the SP51, according to the website, it has the same length, steel, and width, same handle material and same finish

  • @quik876
    @quik876 13 лет назад

    So does the Duracoat reduce the damage/breakdown of the steel of the blade or metal of what's been sprayed or coated? Or does i strengthen it? I noticed you do a lot of duracoating (guess I'm just new to your process of duracoating equipment or tools and the reason(s) behind it)

  • @dominocus1
    @dominocus1 11 лет назад

    Fabulous review. You da MAN. I would ask, you had the blade redone, yet never mentioned the drawback of the "virgin finish". Care to elaborate? Tysm.

  • @JMGZ8
    @JMGZ8 13 лет назад

    Nutn def not in the same class but, the Schempp Rock by spyderco is an awesome fixed blade. Would like to here what you think.

  • @reeseman67
    @reeseman67 13 лет назад

    I LOVE Ontario, (and by default now... Esee, particularly the Junglas!) they actually suprised me in my newest addition to the knife collection, their M9 Bayonet. Always liked the American AK look of it, but always heard about how crappy it is, horrible edge, horrible this, horrible that... When I got it, well still is thin paper cutting sharp! Impressive for a THICK KNIFE, came UBER SHARP, been putting it through some minor testing for my own edification, I'm impressed! Time to order an SP50

  • @BooWilson1
    @BooWilson1 12 лет назад

    Hey Nutn we need a review of the KA Bar ZK war sword knife. Goofy marketing but a sweet high value blade. It de limbs and batons great for me.

  • @PlanBskate4444
    @PlanBskate4444 13 лет назад

    wow i am the 2011th viewer. great review nutn!!! i love that blade, but i would rather have the junglas. keep on putting out these awesome reviews!

  • @LokiEvryn
    @LokiEvryn 13 лет назад

    Whatever happened to the Junglas videos you had out there Nutn? Seems like you took them down. Any info there?

  • @ast453000
    @ast453000 13 лет назад

    Hi Nutn, great vid is usual. It would be really helpful, though, if you picked one blade as your standard and compared the strengths and weaknesses of any new blade to it. There was a little of that in the review, but it would be helpful if the whole review were like that. There's no POU section anymore, so there's time to do more of a comparison-type review. Keep up the good work. It's much appreciated.

  • @360chris88
    @360chris88 13 лет назад

    good video nutn and veri keep up the great work

  • @MrGimli2
    @MrGimli2 12 лет назад

    What is your favorite knife? like for putting in a B.O.B and one for firewood?

  • @note313
    @note313 12 лет назад

    Nutn' I'm about to buy either the RTAK II or the SP-50. Both seem like really good knives but since you handled both I'm hoping you can help me out. The POU for my purpose is basic camp knife/survival knife. If you could only have one of these which one would you get.

  • @deckard9732
    @deckard9732 10 лет назад

    Nutn... what is your absolute FAVORITE woods knife?

  • @guskofamily
    @guskofamily 13 лет назад

    @gamonman i am thinking about getting the SP51 because of the wedge in the thick blade should make chopping much easier, wouldn't you agree ?

  • @prozacjunkie112
    @prozacjunkie112 13 лет назад

    Nutn, can it be inferred that the quality of the SP50 RTAKII etc can vouch for the quality of the RAT-5 and other models from Ontario?

  • @protaeya
    @protaeya 13 лет назад

    @JMGZ8 Oh yeah the one they finally brought back that's somehow more pricier than the old H1 version. great blade.

  • @hangonsnoop
    @hangonsnoop 13 лет назад

    Is metal fatigue something to worry about with a knife that is used for battoning?

  • @depravedone
    @depravedone 13 лет назад

    Go to 4:22 if you were concerned about the lack of the whip sound effect. I was getting concerned. Now back to the video.

  • @patdud1979
    @patdud1979 13 лет назад

    How would rank this knive would it be in your top 5? im looking at the gen 2 for my next knife ;)

  • @hackerz308
    @hackerz308 13 лет назад

    great review thanks nutnfancy!

  • @LokiEvryn
    @LokiEvryn 13 лет назад

    Alright, so apparently Nutn took the videos down because Esee asked him to, or they had some problems with the review? I'm not trying to demean anyone here, just generally curious.

  • @LVPG2010
    @LVPG2010 13 лет назад

    @prozacjunkie112 Sorry for typos in my reply. My system seems to be leaving off the last letter of "that" and "they" and replacing them with "the" I'm certain Ontario does a better job with their knives than I do with the keyboard. Good luck.

  • @njw9690
    @njw9690 11 лет назад

    This video sold me, i got two of them and it is excellent! Have you seen the ESEE Junglas? How does it fair to the RTAK II in your opinion?

  • @a1b2c39888
    @a1b2c39888 13 лет назад

    hey nut, great review as usual, this blade look's like a must to have if you wanna have fun in the wood's, bear and grand'ma huntting :-)
    What would be for you the "best" blade thickness for a survival blade that is about 12" long and about 1 3/4 " wide made of XC70 steel??
    Good work again

  • @oMG123aZomBie
    @oMG123aZomBie 13 лет назад

    Nutn, what would you recommend as the better option as a knife in my role as a patrol commander,
    the recon scout or the sp50?
    any help much appreciated,
    MS ADF

  • @pietzeekoe
    @pietzeekoe 13 лет назад

    Whats with e lines on the blade? is that intentional or just some excess duracoat?

  • @CPLBSS88
    @CPLBSS88 12 лет назад

    Do you have plans on reviewing the SP53, Nutn?

  • @QuiksiIver
    @QuiksiIver 13 лет назад

    Nutn pumpin out the vids, good work.
    What camera(s) do you use?

  • @OutDoStuff
    @OutDoStuff 13 лет назад

    can this knife be used for throwing in a survival situation?

  • @EatCarbs
    @EatCarbs 13 лет назад

    @LokiEvryn Yeah,,,, great question.

  • @tap42al
    @tap42al 13 лет назад

    very nice id like to see a review on the bark river bravo knife from you

  • @gippula
    @gippula 11 лет назад

    i have doubts about the handle....will it get loose after some use (blade wiggels inside the handle)?

  • @nutnfancy
    @nutnfancy  12 лет назад

    Its kind of his style. Some people like it, some don't. -- Veri

  • @pickledbologna
    @pickledbologna 13 лет назад

    I have same question ... this or CS Recon Scout? ... leaning toward this one ..any suggestions? ... with reasoning why

  • @FlurdaFella
    @FlurdaFella 11 лет назад

    What is your favorite overall knife so far?

  • @LVPG2010
    @LVPG2010 13 лет назад

    @david37922 No. IMO, the Junglas is more expensive to cover the operating costs of Mr. Randall's new business [ESEE]. When produced by Ontario [RTAK II], costs could be reduced because of business efficiency. If you check out my page, I have a short demo of the RTAKII and thoughts about the Junglas. Not saying the ESEE aren't good knives--just that you have to eat a lot of start-up costs. If you are looking at the Junglas--give the RTAKII a look. About the same knife--half the cost.

  • @GraysonKeever
    @GraysonKeever 13 лет назад

    What's the a good knife for camping? Thanks for the vids Nutn and Verizon

  • @IIPJSLAYII
    @IIPJSLAYII 13 лет назад

    hey nutnfancy would you prefer the ontario sp50 over the ka-bar cutlass machete

  • @WZvid
    @WZvid 11 лет назад

    Between these two knives, which one would you recommend?
    SP50 vs SP51
    I know the SP51 has more weight and has a "better" grind for chopping and batoning, but the SP50 has a better look in my opinion. You've used the SP50 before, so do you think the SP51 is an upgrade from the SP50 a downgrade form the SP50? I am looking for a survival knife, like the SP50 or SP51, that will not break under a lot of stress, use (batoning,slicing, etc. mainly for wood work), and the occasional throw.
    Any response would be much appreciated. Your videos are always entertaining and informative.Thank you.

  • @TimesNwRoman
    @TimesNwRoman 13 лет назад

    What is your favorite between the SP50, the RTAK II and the Trail Master?

  • @zaki333behappy221
    @zaki333behappy221 12 лет назад

    Hi NUT, could you test the Outback from DownUnderKnives, thanks.

  • @rsimeon77
    @rsimeon77 9 лет назад

    Great review. I can't find the POU Video you mentioned. Did you remove the POU Video.

  • @liwarider
    @liwarider 13 лет назад

    Nutn, what kind of leather work gloves are you sportin'?

  • @EatCarbs
    @EatCarbs 13 лет назад

    Who's complaining that you wear gloves? Those knives are freakin sharp.. safety first!
    I wish Ontario would get it together and make better sheaths. =(

  • @sh1701-A
    @sh1701-A 13 лет назад

    What do you use the sharpen your knives?

  • @Atkrdu
    @Atkrdu 13 лет назад

    What's the deal on the new sheath? I heard that they were coming out with a new one, but can't find any information on it. Anybody know a cheap place that makes custom sheaths? I'm looking for a leather, pouch-style, with good retention, and preferably with a swivel design (overall, like the Condor Hudson Bay sheath. Wouldn't suck if it were ambidexterous, either. I like quiet, fast drawing, manueverable, and low-slung enough that it doesn't jam into my side when I'm moving.

  • @dksouthpawatx
    @dksouthpawatx 13 лет назад

    Anyone have any experience with the Ontario SP8? I'd like to know how it compares to these new SP's coming out