OK that’s a GEN 3 not a gen 4. I’ll be honest I invested in an ice plate because every time I wear that I O TV I feel like I’m going to die from heat exhaustion. While I’m not able to freeze my plate, I do submerge it in a cooler filled with ice. This keeps me cool for about 30 minutes. I did a couple things to make the IOTV better. First I removed the cumber bun and replaced it with a skeletonized cry cumber, then added The Q performance shoulder pads and folded the built-in shoulder pads down.(this allows a lot more airflow), I also insert in the backside Plate holder my ice plate and Drop in the real armor plate in the little pocket space on the backside from the top. Don’t get me wrong that IOTV probably offers the best protection as you are wrapped in multiple layers of nylon and Kevlar. But in my experience I’ve seen more people heat cat from it than actually being protected ballistically. Hopefully these little tricks will help somebody. Q performance you make an amazing products, I have no doubt that you have improved my abilities with this particular piece of issued equipment. If you have any other improvements that could be applied to the IOTV i’d be all ears.
Awesome to hear and thank you so much for sharing your smart IOTV setup tricks with everyone! If you have not done so already, you should check out our CATAMARAN Combo for the front plate bag of your IOTV. It will give you stand-off ventilation using our ICEVENTS® Classic Ventilation Pontoons. We hope this helps, but please let us know if you have any questions! #StayFrosty www.qoreperformance.com/collections/body-armor/products/catamaran-universal-icevents-plate-carrier-ventilation-panel
This is one of the worst items I was ever issued. And that was the consensus. The amount of heat retained in the IOTV is an incredible design oversight, or more likely it wasn’t in the contract to care about it so they didn’t. The actual body of the carrier is way too long too. Taking a kneeling shot before you pass out due to your front plate choking you out (because the soft armor that extends 3” past the bottom of the plate has bunched up against your belt pressing the plate upward) is illogical even for the army. The cummerbund of the gen 2&3 has a panel of fucking plastic sewn into it too. I think the theory was to add structural support to the carrier but in practice, guys fold those soft armor “wings” on the rib section in for some cooling, and now that cummerbund is chafing you until you bleed. Great. And if you want to get a good stock weld or expect a ruck to play well with this $1500 hunk of shit, you’ve got another thing coming. Before one of you galaxy brains starts coping to me, I know it was built to the army’s requirements for a carrier that massively increased surface area protected from frag/shrapnel. But it was designed by people who never had to use it, let alone live in it, or fight in it. Wearing this thing in the desert, during some godforsaken uphill climb with a ruck on is all anyone with sentience needs to go through before stating that this is one of the very worst pieces of equipment ever to be inflicted upon mankind. The gen 4 saw the soft armor relocated to the cummerbund and was marginally better.
So RPGs and IEDs and snipers don’t exist, I’m don’t really care if ya say I’m coping, but from what I’ve heard about my dads experience in Iraq in 2007, shit was blowing up everywhere, ieds and EFPs, snipers and RPGs, it was a plate carrier meant to save in a war like Iraq and Afghanistan where bullets and shrapnel come from every direction and I can guarantee you it saved lifes and prevented injuries
@@antoniochalking I don't think anyone is trying to downplay its ballistic protective capabilities, just that the way the designers went about implementing them had caused more/ different issues (besides the fact that the only rifle rated protection is the plate itself and not the soft armor). By the trends of the Army its self they are taking a step back from tacking on so much armor, the Gen 4 got rid of the wings and implemented soft armor into the cummerbund and the MSV has cut down the overall foot print of the carrier.
I’m with you on that, I fucking hated the older designs. I got issued the GEN 4 before a deployment and it was sooooo much better than these abominations. I get the idea behind frag protection, but you were more than likely going to be a heat cat than anything. I had this dick nozzle 1SG who bitched at us when I was deployed with an ADA unit about how the crew going down range to arm the launchers during an alert didn’t wear IOTVs. Sorry, but no body armor on this planet will save you from a TBM volley, maybe from frag if your lucky, but your screwed if your in the impact area.
A gen 4 IOTV runs about 20 lbs with ESAPI plates. The issue from it as others mentioned is your basically wrapped in a kevlar blanket. The cummer bund, the plate bag and add ons all have extensive amount of kevlar that covers pretty much the entire amount of your upper torso. It also has no airflow preventing you from cooling off. Unfortunately those who have to wear this system probably can't do much to improve the issues with heat. The made things a little better with the gen 4 by cutting a fair bit of redundant kevlar from the plate bags and reducing the amount of kevlar that forms your shoulder cushion.
I really like the older PCs with balcs kevlar panels. With the increase and ease of use of drones and drone dropped grenades we see all the time in Ukraine, its seems the older kevlar panels + plates PCs are making a comeback.
They moved onto the MSV which a newer version of the IOTV in a slimmer profile but there are still things to be left undesired but it’s significantly better than the IOTV imo
For the time being the only people I know who have gotten the MSV are rapid response units and individuals who have gone through RFI immediately prior to a deployment.
OK that’s a GEN 3 not a gen 4. I’ll be honest I invested in an ice plate because every time I wear that I O TV I feel like I’m going to die from heat exhaustion. While I’m not able to freeze my plate, I do submerge it in a cooler filled with ice. This keeps me cool for about 30 minutes.
I did a couple things to make the IOTV better. First I removed the cumber bun and replaced it with a skeletonized cry cumber, then added The Q performance shoulder pads and folded the built-in shoulder pads down.(this allows a lot more airflow), I also insert in the backside Plate holder my ice plate and Drop in the real armor plate in the little pocket space on the backside from the top.
Don’t get me wrong that IOTV probably offers the best protection as you are wrapped in multiple layers of nylon and Kevlar. But in my experience I’ve seen more people heat cat from it than actually being protected ballistically. Hopefully these little tricks will help somebody. Q performance you make an amazing products, I have no doubt that you have improved my abilities with this particular piece of issued equipment. If you have any other improvements that could be applied to the IOTV i’d be all ears.
Awesome to hear and thank you so much for sharing your smart IOTV setup tricks with everyone! If you have not done so already, you should check out our CATAMARAN Combo for the front plate bag of your IOTV. It will give you stand-off ventilation using our ICEVENTS® Classic Ventilation Pontoons. We hope this helps, but please let us know if you have any questions! #StayFrosty
www.qoreperformance.com/collections/body-armor/products/catamaran-universal-icevents-plate-carrier-ventilation-panel
This is one of the worst items I was ever issued. And that was the consensus. The amount of heat retained in the IOTV is an incredible design oversight, or more likely it wasn’t in the contract to care about it so they didn’t. The actual body of the carrier is way too long too. Taking a kneeling shot before you pass out due to your front plate choking you out (because the soft armor that extends 3” past the bottom of the plate has bunched up against your belt pressing the plate upward) is illogical even for the army. The cummerbund of the gen 2&3 has a panel of fucking plastic sewn into it too. I think the theory was to add structural support to the carrier but in practice, guys fold those soft armor “wings” on the rib section in for some cooling, and now that cummerbund is chafing you until you bleed. Great. And if you want to get a good stock weld or expect a ruck to play well with this $1500 hunk of shit, you’ve got another thing coming.
Before one of you galaxy brains starts coping to me, I know it was built to the army’s requirements for a carrier that massively increased surface area protected from frag/shrapnel. But it was designed by people who never had to use it, let alone live in it, or fight in it.
Wearing this thing in the desert, during some godforsaken uphill climb with a ruck on is all anyone with sentience needs to go through before stating that this is one of the very worst pieces of equipment ever to be inflicted upon mankind.
The gen 4 saw the soft armor relocated to the cummerbund and was marginally better.
So RPGs and IEDs and snipers don’t exist, I’m don’t really care if ya say I’m coping, but from what I’ve heard about my dads experience in Iraq in 2007, shit was blowing up everywhere, ieds and EFPs, snipers and RPGs, it was a plate carrier meant to save in a war like Iraq and Afghanistan where bullets and shrapnel come from every direction and I can guarantee you it saved lifes and prevented injuries
@@antoniochalking I don't think anyone is trying to downplay its ballistic protective capabilities, just that the way the designers went about implementing them had caused more/ different issues (besides the fact that the only rifle rated protection is the plate itself and not the soft armor). By the trends of the Army its self they are taking a step back from tacking on so much armor, the Gen 4 got rid of the wings and implemented soft armor into the cummerbund and the MSV has cut down the overall foot print of the carrier.
@@antoniochalking Damn it is crazy how accurately I already addressed what you said.
@@othernamesweretaken1871 😰crazy
I’m with you on that, I fucking hated the older designs. I got issued the GEN 4 before a deployment and it was sooooo much better than these abominations. I get the idea behind frag protection, but you were more than likely going to be a heat cat than anything. I had this dick nozzle 1SG who bitched at us when I was deployed with an ADA unit about how the crew going down range to arm the launchers during an alert didn’t wear IOTVs. Sorry, but no body armor on this planet will save you from a TBM volley, maybe from frag if your lucky, but your screwed if your in the impact area.
A gen 4 IOTV runs about 20 lbs with ESAPI plates. The issue from it as others mentioned is your basically wrapped in a kevlar blanket. The cummer bund, the plate bag and add ons all have extensive amount of kevlar that covers pretty much the entire amount of your upper torso. It also has no airflow preventing you from cooling off. Unfortunately those who have to wear this system probably can't do much to improve the issues with heat. The made things a little better with the gen 4 by cutting a fair bit of redundant kevlar from the plate bags and reducing the amount of kevlar that forms your shoulder cushion.
Our IceAge Ecosystem upgrades in ICEVENTS® and IMS Versa significantly improve the thermoregulation performance of the MSV:
ICEVENTS® Classic Ventilation Pontoons
www.qoreperformance.com/collections/body-armor/products/catamaran-universal-icevents-plate-carrier-ventilation-panel
ICEVENTS® Shoulder Pads
www.qoreperformance.com/collections/icevents-kits#shoulder-straps
IMS Versa:
www.qoreperformance.com/collections/molle-sleeves/products/ims-versa-combo
That’s gen 3, not gen 4 iotv. Gen 4 is more slick and doesn’t have the extra flaps on the side.
I use the Vesra insert to put the ice plate against my back and I either swap with one in the cooler or swap water from the buffalo.
I really like the older PCs with balcs kevlar panels. With the increase and ease of use of drones and drone dropped grenades we see all the time in Ukraine, its seems the older kevlar panels + plates PCs are making a comeback.
im gonna swap put the cummberbunds with Arbor arms 3 strap first spear tubes, its specially for the gen IV and it should take off a couple of lbs
Can you do the marine corps version on the iotv the imtv both are kind of the same but have different forms
Sure. If y’all can get us one to test, we’ll be happy to do it! Info [at] Qore Performance [dot] com to coordinate.
I hate the IOTV, the heat it produces is insane.
Accurate. IOTV is basically a mobile soldier oven.
WOW
Trying to find a plate carrier that has a 4 mag placards
Defense mechanisms sells the mission essential play carrier (MEPC) and they have a 4 mag placard for it they also sell on their website 👌🏽
@@PNW42069 thanks
Shaw concepts
do ratnik next lol
I thought the Army had moved over to a new system?
They're in the process, but guys are still getting gen 3 and 4 IOTVs
They moved onto the MSV which a newer version of the IOTV in a slimmer profile but there are still things to be left undesired but it’s significantly better than the IOTV imo
@@Rspec_randy like the damn buckles, on the belly
Looks like the Reserves gets the old shit.
For the time being the only people I know who have gotten the MSV are rapid response units and individuals who have gone through RFI immediately prior to a deployment.
The IOTV is the biggest POS ever issued, I hate it
+1 We built our Universal Plate Carrier Upgrade Kits to help mitigate the suck:
www.qoreperformance.com/collections/upgrade-kits
You mean the DEMONcrap laundrerd money war in Ukraine? 11:42