Talib Kweli & Krondon On Strong Arm Steady, 'Black Lightning,' Ghostwriting | People's Party Full
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- Опубликовано: 20 сен 2024
- In this episode of "People's Party With Talib Kweli," Kweli and Jasmin Leigh sit down with rapper, writer, actor and one third of the iconic West Coast group Strong Arm Steady:
Marvin "KRONDON" Jones III
Here's what we got into:
• His South Central upbringing and what Ben Davis clothing means to the West Coast.
• Strong Arm Steady using Ice Cube as the foundation of their inspiration.
• His father and mother being steeped in gangster life throughout his youth.
• Metallica becoming his babysitter and an escape from a deprived childhood.
• The process of learning how to love and appreciate the uniqueness of his albinism.
• His book 'The Great Undoing' and it's concept of "the 5 P's".
• Being brought up by a father who considered selling crack a family business.
• Relating to the main character of the series 'Raising Keenen'.
• Going to live with his grandmother after his father went to prison.
• How he was put on by the legendary X-Clan when he was 16 years old.
• Being a promoter for music labels becoming his college education to the industry.
• Gratitude to Kevin Liles for his mentorship and belief in what Krondon could achieve.
• Discussion of artists Truly Odd, Planet Asia, Phil Da Agony, Mitchy Slick and others.
• Some of Strong Arm Steady's most notable collaborations.
• Expressing some regret over how things went with SAS and Blacksmith Records.
• The years of being busy ghostwriting for some of the West Coast's finest.
• The 'Whiteboiz' project with Shafiq Husayn being a dream come true.
• Working with Sa-Roc, touring with Hieroglyphics and props from Dom Kennedy.
• His take on all religions sharing the same path of peace, love and truth.
• Xzibit being the catalyst in his ambitions to pursue acting.
• Getting the chance to pick Common's brain while acting in a short film.
• How he ended up with the role of Tobias in the TV series 'Black Lightning'.
• Differences and similarities of his and Tobias' relationships with their parents.
• His experiences at Comic-Con the last four years being one of the best perks.
• Working on the film 'Defiant' about the incredible true story of Robert Smalls.
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TIME STAMPS:
2:25 -- Krondon's South Central upbringing is discussed along with the Ben Davis clothing brand being a staple of west coast street wear and what Krondon meant when he called himself a "blip". They go on to talk about the legacy of Ice Cube, what he means to the infrastructure of West Coast rap, his providing the blueprint for those that came after him and Krondon's group Strong Arm Steady being a prime example who used Cube as the foundation of their inspiration, honoring him with a remake of his classic joint 'Steady Mobbin'.
9:40 -- Krondon speaks of his father as well as his mother being steeped in gangster life throughout his youth. He talks about looking for escapes from his turbulent upbringing and a blessing that came his way due to his albinism when he was bussed out of his neighborhood exposing him to a different set of friends who turned him onto music that spoke directly to the angst he was growing up with. He explains how Metallica became his babysitter as an escape from the deprived childhood hand he was dealt and details one of the most emotional days of his career when he was able to perform with them and share the impact they had on him early-on.
17:32 -- Krondon digs into how most of the racism he experienced as a youth ironically came from black people. He details the greatest reward that came from having albinism and talks about his process of evolving to the point of loving the fact that he is different. They go on to discuss the biggest job as parents being to leave your kids with no room for excuses, Krondon's book 'The Great Undoing' and it's theme of digging off the dirt that was thrown on you while growing up by the 5 P's (parents, partners, peoples, places, positions).
23:05 -- Krondon breaks down being brought up by a father who considered selling crack a family business. His father teaching him how to cook very early with his feeling that it was a survival tactic. Krondon speaks on relating to the main character of the series 'Raising Keenen', his father eventually going to prison, his mother still in the streets and his having to go live with his grandmother who became the saving grace and the only "good" in his life at the time. Krondon also goes on to tell about his father later becoming a devout Christian who in many ways is still not so far removed from his old self.
30:38 -- Krondon explores the story of how he was put on by the X-Clan when he was 15 years old. They discuss the significance of the club Hollywood Live of LA in the late 80s, Krondon searching for a legal hustle after his girlfriend got pregnant, the afrocentric vibes of those times having a huge influence on him with emphasis on the X-Clan who infused west coast funk style beats over conscious lyrics. He goes on to explain how handing them a tape after a show turned into the group flying him and his rap partner out to New York to record and eventually go on tour with them. He also expresses how grateful he was to his grandmother for allowing him to follow his dream.
38:25 -- Krondon speaks on how working as a promoter for multiple music labels became his college education to the industry. They talk about how working for Def Jam as an unpaid street promoter turned into his becoming the West Coast regional rep in a 5 year span, as well as the legacy of Kevin Liles and all the gratitude due to him for being the first to believe in Krondon. DJ Truly Odd, Chace Infinite, DJ Kalil as well as Defari get shout outs, Talib gives Planet Asia some high praise and they discuss the great heart of Phil Da Agony as well as the tenacity of Mitchy Slick.
45:59 -- Talib gives his take on Strong Arm Steady essentially being the equivalent of the Dipset on the West Coast. They discuss Talib getting to know Strong Arm though Xzibit and some of the most notable collaborations that the group was involved in. Krondon goes on to share some regrets about how he handled his time at Blacksmith Records working with Talib and Cory Smith and gives praise to Talib for understanding the Strong Arm vision early on. Talib gives his take on those years and shares how those were some difficult times for himself and Cory as well.
1:01:07 -- Krondon is asked about the ghostwriting that he's done over the years for icons such as Snoop Dogg and others. They go on to discuss what Snoop means to the West Coast, the awkward moment for Krondon when Snoop revealed that he had written some of his verses and Krondon being quite busy at that time writing for many West Coast artists and being so honored by those opportunities. He goes on to tell why working with Xzibit was so rewarding as well as answers if there were verses that he has regrets about giving away.
1:09:57 -- Krondon speaks on how the 'Whiteboiz' project he did with Shafiq Husayn was a dream come true as he digs into it's concept of educating listeners on how white and black have been interpreted throughout America's history. Krondon also gets into how thrilled he was to work with S-Roc, Strong Arm Steady touring with Hiero and a young Dom Kennedy telling Krondon how much he appreciated how Strong Arm was repping LA. They also discuss Shafiq being the master teacher, as well as Krondon's deep faith and his take on all religions sharing the same path of peace, love and truth.
1:21:57 -- Krondon gives his take on all of us playing roles throughout our everyday lives. He speaks on acting and rapping for him being one hand washing the other as well as his always having interest in the idea of acting but not knowing he was capable until he saw it for himself. He tells how Xzibit was a catalyst in his ambitions to pursue acting, how being noticed on Twitter got him his first audition, as well as how his doing a short film for Microsoft featuring Common gave him the valuable opportunity to pick the brain of a Chicago rap icon.
1:29:10 -- Krondon tells the story of how he ended up with the role of a lifetime starring as Tobias Whale in The CW superhero television series 'Black Lightning'. They discuss his being unaware of the Black Lightning story at the time, the four week process of getting the job and the idea of Tobias being an example of a hotep gone extremist. Krondon goes on to talk about some of the differences as well as the similarities of his and his character's relationships with his parents as well as the incredible vision of show's creator Salim Akil.
1:42:24 -- Krondon's work as the voice of Tombstone in the film 'Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse' is discussed as well as his experiences doing Comic-Con the last four years in a row being one of the best perks of his job. He also tells about a new movie he's been working on called 'Defiant' by a company called Legion M that has a unique approach of allowing fans to invest in films before they get released. He gets into the amazing true story of 'Defiant' about Captain Robert Smalls who was born a slave and went on to hi-jack a confederate ship and later serve a 5 term in congress.
Thank you for bringing him on as a guest, this was a really good and interesting interview.
Power & blessings from Melbourne Australia
Let me say this: MORE OF THIS. More brothers in hip-hop having intelligent discourse. More brothers showing growth and elevation in their personal lives. More willingness from brothers to give one another flowers and more awareness of who paved the path for you. I knew a little something about Krondon before this but I walked away impressed as hell. Such a gracious and pensive brother. Watch the measured tones he speaks in....ain't nothing coming of his mouth that hasn't been mentally weighed yet. Speaking with no filter is fine at times but I like to see folks consider their words before they speak more. As a man of a certain age who grew up loving this music, I love seeing my favorite hip-hop artists aging graciously. Bravo to the People's Party.
It's dang near impossible not to like this man. The genuineness, generosity of knowledge, energy, love and appreciation this man brings to the table in all he does, if you hate its your own fault and ignorance. This dude is a legend.
I discovered Krondon, Chace Inf and Strong Arm through Dilated and Kweli. As an East Coast cat, I had a narrow view. Those cats, legends, opened my eyes to a whole new lane of Hip Hop. Much respect due to Krondon. He is legendary.
ras kass put me on to SAS & Planet Asia. Ras kass always surrounded my intelligent, good musicians
Something that Krondon said in this interview has really stuck with me 'As parents we should leave our children with no excuses' I have made improvements and focused myself through this lesson I feel I am now showing a better example to my children because of it. Thank you! Peace
He was the best part of black lightning the most believable one in the show top notch acting
5 star interview probably the best I've seen on people's party. I had no idea that Krondons influence of West Coast hip hop resonated into the career he has. Which is incredible. The love and respect he has for Talib and Talib is unmatched I had no idea that Talib was backing his music until this interview. I have heard his music but never put the name to the face until I saw him on Black Lightning and one of my boys told me that's Krondon the rapper from California that wrote Arms and Hammers and wrote the search for Stoney Jackson classics in my opinion. He also played a hell of villain on Black Lightning he was one of the best villains I have ever seen. Didn't know Tobias was an extension of who he really was. Another Gem Jas and Talib this is why I tune in every week. Keep em coming.
Interview of the year so far. Love Krondon & his perspective
This Kat, Krondon, is from another era rock solid!!!! Love his energy
Truly. Great energy!
When I first heard "In Search for Stoney Jackson" dropped, I was impressed. But, "Arms & Hammers" was a complete JEM! Every song was crafted just right. Universal music with in depth west coast lyrics. I was stationed in S.Korea at the time. I bumped that album on repeat for at least three months. Krondon, Phil Da Agony, and Mitchie Slick became my household favorites as far as sound and song structure. A lot of albums since can't hold a candle to that album. Also, the album with Stattik Selectah, "Stereotype" was equally on point! Love the music and the memories. I still listen to all three albums.
Strong Arm Steady albums are fire. I love in search of stoney Jackson.
statik is kind of a hometown hero for boston cats who love hip hop, only thing about him is termanology is his main man and everyone from lawrence says term is a rat
@@jamesblake5176 Dang.... didn't know that about Term. (I like his music) It would really suck if it was true..🤔
@@anthonywilliams9415 i never seen paperwork, but i always hear bad things about him. he's a dope emcee, but idk man. no one ever said i was a rat.
thats funny because stoney jackson is the ACTUAL gem.
This is an incredible episode. Big fan of Strong Arm Steady. Krondon is so wise and drops 1 gem after another.
2 very intelligent brothers with dope viewpoints... classic 💎✊🏼
I thoroughly enjoyed this interview with Krondon. Talib is really carving out his niche conducting great interviews. He’s Howard Stern-like.
Man… can I be honest?
Jasmine, questions is making me feel uncomfortable.🤷🏿♀️
This man, is really from the soil…
Bringing up E-40 name out the blue!
This Brotha, is… Respectable🥰
Beautiful interview, Nuff Respect to both brotha’s.✊🏾
First saw Krondon perform at Xzibit's birthday along with Dilated and Self Scientific in 98'. Blew my mind. Just seen Xzibit and the SAS Brothers in a reunion and killed it at the How The West Was Won concert. Much love!
I was a big fan of Xzibit, always enjoyed X-Clan, and even saw Metallica in concert twice, but I never realized Krondon was associated with all of these artists until I saw him on Black Lightning and he quickly became my favorite supervillain of all time. I've been reading Black Lightning comic books for decades, but it took Krondon to truly bring Tobias Whale to life. I am enjoying this interview so much. I so badly want to see a Krondon/Metallica collaboration!
Black Lightning show is very corny though I'd much rather read the comics bro
@@ZachariaYonis the show may have been....
His performance as tobias was definitely not
@@madddoggnogood1491 I may have to check out his highlights then bro
@@ZachariaYonis
Krondon as Tobias and cress Williams black lightning were the whole show and also William Callet as the character Lala was great
And bil Duke was great too.
The show wasn't bad. Except for the melodrama with black lightnings wife
Everyone else you can take or leave
@@madddoggnogood1491 I couldn't get into it. It seemed sort of low budget, but the main thing I think that made me stop was the corny script.
23:06 Jazmin hit Krondon with a DJ Vlad type segway. 😄😄🤣😆😆😆
He said "digging off the dirt unwarranted and unwelcomely yet thrown on you by parents, partners, people, places and positions" ,"it wasn't our doing but it is our responsibility to undo it" , "it is not your fault but it is your responsibly" That is a great quote.
I've been waiting to see the full interview since I saw the snippet last week. This is going to be 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥.
So glad to see it resonating!
This is so deep I started crying...I felt it...amazing...I want to meet y'all so bad in person...just to sit and listen 🎶 to you talk...and Jasmine I love the shirle curls... I am shirle queen but sometimes we gotta switch it up sending y'all some BayArea Love ❤ 🌅🌁🌉🌄💕💋💋💋💋💋💋💋💋
SAS brought out the"beast" in Kweli
BIG UP!!!
And "Drugs, Basketball and Rap" is one of my favorite joints from the Right About Now mixtape
And "Drugs, Basketball and Rap" is one of my favorite joints from the Right About Now mixtape
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Strong Arm Steady is one of my favorite hip-hop groups and definitely standouts of my generation ❤️
I wanted to say that I've been listening since the first broadcast and the amount of knowledge I've taken and applied to my journey is a daily blessing. Thank you Talib and Jasmine for helping light the way for the 85%.. This crowd feels you kweli and I cant leave you stranded.
Dope interview 🔥🔥.. Strong Arm Steady , Planet Asia , Self Scientific these west coast artist personal kept me from waking away from hip hop . I was so disgusted at the direction of hip hop , artist on East Coast , the direction they were moving . These West Coast brothers kept me from saying f@c$ rap at that time . Much respect from NY .
Whatever happened to chase infinite?
@@antfrancis9941 not sure . Haven’t heard new music in a long time from Self Scientific.
Strong arm steady is one of those groups I love too press play and ride to 🔥👌🏾
The Brother is talking a lot of sense. I really like the part about whats thrown on you.
Need to see Krondon in more projects!!
Krondon is that dude for real!
First time I met Krondon was over at my cousin DJ Truly OdD’s (Pat) crib when they were working on one of his early records, The Rules. Incredible to see how his career and life has progressed. I loved hearing Krondon shout him out as the first person to believe in him.
I really expected to hear you two discuss my brother Tunji, who was cutting his teeth in the music industry running Kweli’s social accounts around the time SAS got started. I remember showing him Krondon’s Rules vinyl before he even knew who he was and it’s crazy to think about where he’s at now…
Amazing interview!! 5stars!! (Nuff Respect Krondon)👊🎧🐼
S A L U T E !!!
He's a stand up, stand out brotha!! Much respect to a real one. This interview offered an in-depth chance to bear witness to his real personality here. I dig this one. Long awaited connection being reunited with Talib and Brotha Kron... Am only a few minutes in but am looking forward to his understanding and pov as per the drama and beef here in L.A. with RIFLEMAN aka ELLAY KHULE as he is an affiliate of the west coast diaspora.
Thank you for bringing him on as a guest, this was a really good and interesting interview.
Power & blessings from Melbourne Australia
I knew Krondon was cool but y’all brought out a side I never knew 🤣🤣 Fire Interview 🔥🔥
I'm amped for this one! Carving out some time to peep it this week. Appreciate these guests!
Really impressed with his growth as a man post Strong Arm Steady… Very talented
Been waiting for the full interview to drop!
Great interview...only 15 mins in but ...Krondon...mad respect brother 👊
First time I heard this brother was on 3 Kings with Self Scientific and Planet Asia.
PEACE
That self scientific 3 kings album was fire!
Shouts out to Krondon aka Marvin Jones III.
I did some reviews for that show (the entire 4th Season) and shout to all who have supported my channel. I did some research for my reviews but nothing close to this in depth interview. This brotha was dropping his own jewels on this podcast! Much, much respect to you man.
You played your part to the fullest brotha!
PEACE TO KWELI, KRONDON & JAZ! ICONIC INTERVIEW! REAL HIP-HOP! THANK U.
I absolutely love this man and thoroughly enjoyed this interview.
Intelligent brother. I can listen to this all day.
Love Krondon. Fantastic interview as always by the People's Party.
Krondon is straight up Dope!
How am I just now seeing this! I love Krondon!
Blacksmith is what taught me the underground is where the real lyricism lives.
Peace Kwe👑✊🏾!! Yo Jas oh Lord🥰🥰🥰
I would like to make a list of the spiritual books this man could recommend & just buy them all to deepen my understanding.
I'm sitting here thinking we went to the Same Junior High School. I worked at EMI and recalled he was signed to Capitol Records or an affiliated company (Ran across an album) and when he mentioned Los Feliz...Peaked my interest. Got my Junior High School Year Book and Yes, there He is Marvin Jones 7th grade at Bancroft Jr High school. CRAZYYYYYY
this interview is literally the best
This show !!. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 best podcast ever hands down!!!! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Bro I used to listen to kron back in the day. Xzibit sas days. Loved his stuff. Never knew he was this interesting of a man tho! Super intellectual and humble. Just became a bigger fan then I already was.
Great Interview!!! Shout out to brotha Krondon. ~West West~100
Krondon sounds like Malcom X now, far cry from Dizzle Lean.
1 of the best interviews I have ever seen
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Peace & Blessings
Thank You So Much, this Is A Master Class & Interview.
Thank You
this may be the best interview ever filmed
That Dilated Steady mixtape is genuinely one of the best mixtapes of that 2000s era. Glad to see Krondon and Kweli's eyes light up when that came up!
Best interviews for the real culture and heads Hip Hop done correctly
Parents, partners, people, places, and positions. Got it! Will remember it! Loved the interview!
I just got put on to Strong Arm Steady & Krondon about 2 years ago cause of Black Lightning ⚡ & I love the albums they've done. To hear how intelligent 🧠 he is amazes me but it's not surprising.
Clack clack clack clack .
SAS
Deep Hearted album is a classic
Clean Up ft Black Thought & Saukrates 🔥🔥
Wow. Brooklyn Zoo reference. I still got that Masters Of The Zooniverse 12".
Psalms 37:27”The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD: and HE delighteth in his ways”. One of the best interview to date,thank you Kwe,Jas,,and all of the staffs,and of course Kron,thank you!! Oh Kwe! Try to get Phil da agony!! On next Peace👑👑👸🏽✊🏾
bro is underrated, rap voice is craaazzzzzzzzy
Very good conversation.
Facebook clip brought me here this interview looks super interesting.
Good lord. He’s absolutely enchanting.
Can we please just resurrect that Painkiller spin-off and bring him back as Tobias?
Gems in abundance on this episode
Oh man that is a beautiful story I love it not many people get to sit with their artist babysitters and get to get drunk with them hell yeah man that's awesome
Before I die, I want one more SAS album!!!
Much Gratitude
That’s my boy … Yahs one love you Brah ✊🏿
Great podcast!
Was waiting for a strong arm steady ep. That stoney Jackson album is a clasict
Because I know it's something to be won now and that y'all two are speaking.
I love the show and know interview friends and people that inspire you personally but I think it would be dope to interview Ill Bill and Killah Priest.
Both very valid picks!
Word!
Classic interview
I did tracks with Chace and Phil, wish I would have worked with krondon. Great guy.
Dude is so articulate
"Deep Hearted" then ; "In Search of Stoney Jackson" ; "Arms & Hammers" & "Stereo Type" !!!??? Dem 4 there!!?? Mad!!!
Oh God. Thought I was writing him. Yes sir I understand what your saying.
51:55 his eyes are bout to start leakin!! LOL!! all love
Thanks! Always wanted to hear/see a good Krondon interview such an interesting and wise man. Shame no questions about new music...unless hes proper retired and I didnt realise. Keep up the good work Peoples Party and Dizzlene...pzzzzz
The best form EP, was the first I recall getting. Also a guest appearance in the worse comes to worse video.
That Friday night flavor/ wake up show era is my favorite for time for underground hip hop
I been writing you now you know I wouldn't have known that. I get what your saying and how your speaking
In your speaking I heard cogic and that was confirmation about some things in my life as well
facts strong armm saved alot of YALLLL
He's the same age as me. I also met X clan at 16 professor X and Sugar Shaft came to Northern Virginia. I met the at Potomac Mills Mall. I wasn't rapping then. I started rapping the following year so I could have been apart of the black watch movement also like Krondon. Life is mystical. Wow! We have similar views. I grew up on hip-hop, punk and heavy metal also and I am black. I also was in the streets.
AWESOME interview!!!! PEACE family, and God bless.
Salute to Krondon aka Dizzlean and the whole Strong Arm Steady crew Mitchy Slick and Phil Da Agony LA in the Building!
I remember reading a article in either The Source or XXL about Strong Arm Steady. I never went to check them out, but always heard nothing but high praises about them
What your saying is learn the family. And Granddaddy stop I would have known that I never would have but now I know and to be honest I never thought that my father was this type of person. Now I know the industry
My brother ,I have truly enjoyed and appreciate what you have done and what you are doing. I would like to have a conversation with you at your earliest convenience
Please and Thank you
God Bless 🙏
There goes that evil guy! 😈 lol excellent actor on black lightening! He's really not that evil but he played the he'll out that character!
Rispek 4 myoo-Zk, nut fa da mess uv rilijunz!
beautiful
I seen him one time in my life out of my whole life
Omg I loved him on black lightening I hope he gets his own show with Jill scott I def would watch
Once again it’s on party people. Best part of Monday is here y’all.