Demon's Souls Lore - Maiden Astraea and The Valley of Defilement
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- Demon's Souls Lore - Maiden Astraea and The Valley of Defilement
Today I'm going to go over the lore of everyone's favorite swamp in Demon's Souls... or any Souls game - The Valley of Defilement. I'll discuss the demons Leechmonger and Dirty Colossus, and in particular, the lore of Maiden Astraea, and how her presence would change The Valley of Defilement.
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Music List:
0.00 - Demon's Souls Remake - Maiden in Black
0.19 - Demon's Souls - The Beginning
1.14 - King's Field: The Ancient City - The Earth Folk Village
2.34 - Demon's Souls - Dirty Colossus
4.59 - Dark Souls - Nameless Song
6:37 - Dark Souls 2 - Queen of Drangleic
8.07 - King's Field - Passage for a Monk (Hellkite Drake remix)
8.59 - King's Field: The Ancient City - Village Ruins and East Valley
10.21 - King's Field: The Ancient City - The Guardian's Room
12.16 - King's Field - The Miner's Graveyard
13.49 - Demon's Souls - Maiden Astraea
15.37 - Demon's Souls - Leechmonger
16.43 - Demon's Souls - Maiden Astraea (Hellkite Drake remix)
19.02 - King's Field: The Ancient City - The Old Battlefield
21.31 - Demon's Souls Remake - Maiden Astraea
23.32 - Dark Souls - Menu Theme
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Astraea did indeed hold the most corrupted demon soul, but I think people misunderstand what that means. *She* was not corrupted, her *demon soul* was.
Demons exist to satiate their own hunger by devouring souls. It’s an evil and selfish act. Astraea did devour the souls of those of the valley, but it was not an evil act. It truly was one of mercy.
I believe this is why she’s simply holding her demon soul, not taking it into herself. It’s why she says “do what you will, I can no longer resist you” after you kill Garl. She’s supposedly an arch demon, she *should* be able to resist you. She cannot however, because she refuses to take that power into herself.
Her good and noble heart “corrupted” the demon soul. This is made evident by the spell you get from trading in her soul to Yuria. Yuria believes her magic is “intrinsically evil” because it submits to and channels the evil nature and intentions of demon souls. What spell does her witchcraft produce from submitting to and channeling Astraea’s demon soul? An entirely selfless healing magic that can only work for the benefit of others.
That’s why Astraea’s demon soul is “the most corrupted”. It was an evil soul that was turned into something good.
Sorry I’m a few years late to the party, but I’m loving DeS and enjoying my exploration of the lore. Just wanted to point one perspective I haven’t seen discussed here so far.
One of these days the algorithim is gonna smile on dave he's just gonna shoot straight up to a million subs, just posting this here to look back on when it does
I too hope it comes to be soon
Something of note that was brought up in the playthrough on DaveControlPlay, is that most of the demons represent a regions lore. They are ultimately reflections of the place itself, rather than unique personages in their own right. Running with this logic gives some interesting findings.
The demons of Boletaria are reflections of their greatest knights, and even the King is not the real king, but an illusory one designed to harvest souls, embodying Allant at his greatest strength and power. In a way, it is the idealized version of all the knights and king that is shown.
Similarly with Stonefang, the demons represent ideas associated to the miners, such as the Armor Spider being a reflection of the Spiderstone and Hardstone mined there, the Flamelurker being a reflection of the Burrower kings who originated the art of smithing, and finally the Dragon God being an impersonation of the Dragon that the Burrowers worshiped.
In the Tower of Latria the Fool's Idol is a cruel puppet designed to mimic the beloved Queen. She is beautiful, powerful, and ultimately, unkillable, likely echoing the desires of the people of Latria. The Maneater is an experimental demon created by the Old Monk, using the gift of knowledge and magic against the people. Even the Monk himself is a piece of folklore, someone banished by the Queen who nursed a hatred for her and was later used as a manner to gather souls. It doesn't even actually have to actually be the same Monk that was banished, because the demon is his clothes, not the man himself.
The inhabitants of the Shrine of Storms have long since died off, yet the demons here mimic all aspects of the people's customs. The Adjudicator is there to judge the souls, before they are sent on to be ritually sacrificed to the Storm King. The Old Hero is one such sacrifice, and the Storm King himself representing the bringers of rain that the shadow men worshipped.
The only one that is different is the Valley of Defilement, in that I believe that Astraea is the only demon to *literally* be the person in question, rather than a demon manifesting in a way sympathetic to the local peoples. It's also likely the actual Astraea by the presence of Garl Vinland, who is just a normal human. Remarkably strong, but still a normal mortal.
Sorta adds a poetic spin to the line about hers being the single most corrupted soul.
Indeed! The closest analogy to Astraea is the player character themselves in the bad ending, where they choose to serve the Old One for power's sake, becoming a harvester of souls.
I'm unsure if they changed it, but in the original it was heavily implied that Astaea was in love with Garl Vinland and they had an illicit affair and she had to kill the baby in order to maintain the saintly aspects of her calling in front of the people. If you notice the blood in the last area is flowing out from her not into her, this is also the only place that has a pool of blood, and also the only place those babies appear. She also cups the demon soul as if it were a baby. It could be that she faced everything she had done and broke under the power of the demon soul and now keeps her baby alive by feeding it the souls of those suffering.
if we look at that logic though, along with the name itself, it's almost as if the Valley followed the same path that Astraea did. Starting of as "Pure" To only be tainted
@@TheSilverOrn that could be the reason why you get plagued so quickly in the pool at the bottom of her boss area. If it was her baby, surely it would be even more demonic than Astrea herself, especially when she is using all of the valleys residents for their souls.
Uh... no
There is no Boss in any game that makes me say: "I wish things were different..." but the Maiden Astrea.
Its such a beautiful yet vile and gruesome dilemma of what is right and wrong.
But after all, I need my Blueblood Sword.
*Hand over it, that thing... your Pureblood Demon Soul...*
Great Grey Wolf Sif.
*Looks down at my Greatsword of Artorias* "...Was it worth it...?"
"Dearest Astraea... I have failed you"
-Garl Vinland, the Grandfather of badass knights in Soulborne.
I find it interesting how some games can try so hard to have complex moral quandries, while Demon's Souls has one of gamings best as a sidestory. It truly shows how the writers at FromSoft are in a leauge of their own.
Quick point out, blue blood is a term that descibes nobles, since they didn't labor out in the sun, their skin was more pale than the commoners and the vains were easier to see.
I think you're the first one to suggest that Astraea steals their souls, but not outright kill them. That's why I like hearing more than one POV.
Another masterpiece Dave!
Not sure Astraea's clan would be named Blueblood as blue blood is just another way of saying 'nobility.' And I have some faith that the lore writers aren't that cliche!
But as always, I love your videos! Been watching for a very long time!
Ooooh, I didn't know that about Blueblood! Thank you for that heads up! I'm glad I just said it might have been the clan name, haha. :P
I guess the nobility point was really the important one.
@@DaveControlLive No worries man! Always love your videos! Thank you for uploading them!
Was about to say this.
It's actually started out as a very derogatory term. It came about because the inbreeding of nobles in Europe and Russia back in the day left many nobles suffering from hemophilia. It prevents the blood from clotting properly and thus leads to those afflicted often being very bruised even from minor accidents... and bruises are made of "blue" blood.
@@possumverde what I've heard is different. Since the nobles wouldn't be out working the fields they'd be much paler than the peasants leading to visible veins which have a blueish hue, adding to this the fact that bleeding would be customarily avoided by nobles due to the fear of hemophilia, the common folk speculated that nobles had blue blood.
Yoo just got home and saw the new video. Thank you Dave
Hope you enjoy! :)
I'm glad someone is doing lore videos for Demon's Souls and even more glad that they're if such good quality, keep up the fine work !
Garl Vinland has some very interesting equipment. He's wearing the Dark Silver set and the Shield, improving his defense against magic. The Talisman of God, allowing him to cast miracles, the miracles Heal and God's Wrath. God's Wrath showing miracles can do harm, even if it might be more of a defensive offensive miracle. His Bramd has marks of an old giant killer, likely from the 6th archstone, also increasing resistance against plague and poison. The old lady, her missing child, likely in the 6th archstone.
Also interesting, if you kill the maiden without killing Garl, you can reload the save and Garl will die and drop his equipment. You never really need to fight him, and it's like he sudoku when she dies. If the boss was just over, he may just be gone or a dead body when you return, but you actually get to see him die.
His sister is "high-ranking" from the "highlands" (see her armor).
Im sure the whole ''the most corrupted of them all'' was cause she turned her back on god since heresy was punishable in the middle ages.
Also in the og game Astraea is surrounded by gold, so the depraved also were showering her with trinkets.
Theres was also a neat theory that the black phantom wielding a meat clever is one of the knights.
I think she's the most corrupted because her intentions were pure the others were sadistic already and already corrupted she used to be good but slowly became twisted.
@@personman1148 I dunno, compared to other demons she still retained her human form and ends herself after reposting Garl to the next dimension instead of running away like phalanx.
@@aliekexie8467 I believe that is due to a difference in personality. Phalanx is just a pure demon, only modelled as a mockery of the Boletarian legions. Like the other demons, it will always prioritize its survival so it can keep harvesting souls. It is almost an instinct, if backed up by cruelty.
Astraea, however, used to be a person, a human being, and a very selfless and kind one. So even after having been corrupted and her desires to help twisted into just another form of feeding the Old One, Astraea still keeps most of her personality and values. Thus, when Garl Vinland is dead and her power about to be taken away, she kills herself, most likely because, unlike the other demons, she is devastated by the failure of her efforts _and_ she recognizes she's already lost to the Slayer of Demons.
@@MrDibara Except Boletarian demons were all human or do you want to say that King Allant always had a Tower Knight chilling at his court yard?
I do believe the only pure demons are the Dragon God, Storm King and possibly the Old Hero. The rest looked like corrupted creatures, like The Armored Spider who probably grew thanks to the amount of people it devoured. The Adjucator looks kinda like The Old Monk with how the true foe is the bird crown and the other is the yellow cloth and not the actual person.
If you want we can keep throwing possible theories about what are pure demons.
@@aliekexie8467 No, I'm saying all the Boletarian Demons simply took on a shape that mocked the humans they represented. The Tower Knight is a colossal demon that is mocking one of the true Heroes of Boletaria, now a Black Phantom near the corpse of a dragon.
Same thing with the Penetrator. He himself is a mocking image of yet another of Boletaria's great Heroes, one who has also become a Black Phantom. And let's not forget even "Allant" himself is only a demon impersonating the king at his prime, albeit taller then any human would actually be.
Hell, Biorr himself refers to the Penetrator as a mocking demon and this is the guy who is always singing high values of his comrades. That's a pretty big clue that the Penetrator is not actually the old Hero of Boletaria, but a mimicry, a demon disguising himself as such.
Another example of a demon disguising itself is the Fool's Idol.
It looks exactly like the Queen of Latria, but she is said to be dead. It only looks like the Queen to fool the unknowing prisoners.
And some demons can apperantly also take shape through a culture's folklore. This would explain the Adjudicator demon, whose appearence is an imitation of the legends shared by the Shadowmen. He's not actually judging people who are worthy, the Shadowmen have been long gone. He's simply feeding on Thieves, Adventurers and Slayers of Demons that have ventured there.
Gotta love photo mode, definitely helps channels that want to make lore videos.
bluepoint is the best in the business at remakes. they get it right everytime. i cant get over how incredible the remake looks. playing on rpcs3 at 1080p 120fps and on the private servers.. this still looks just incredible
Garl vinland the squid headed knight XD
Walking into 5-3 for the first time, hearing that music, and realising what was really happening down here, really hit me right in the feels! And i was 30 in 2009, I thought i had no feelings 😂
This is a great video, very well edited and researched. Can't wait for more. :)
Thank you! I’m glad you thought so. :)
Amazing work again Dave. You are a very underrated soulsborne content creator. Much appreciated.
Brings back Good memories of Experiencing Demon souls the first time after DarkSouls
Now a New base is feeling the same In 60fps and 4k graphics. Keep up the great work Dave!
Yaaaay I've been waiting for this one. I'm really interested about the valley of defilement and the maiden astrea
“Made in Australia” and “Girl Finland”. Thanks, closed captions.
astraea always makes me a little sad, great video Dave
Wonderful! Looking forward to the rest of your videos Chief!
As the poisoned and plague filled valley is rotting away, it sure is filled with life.
Astrea looks so much like Farnese, may be why they made her originate from the church and have them reconsider being part of the church. Tho both chose a different path while Aestra embrace the demon soul, Farnese has a more positive development
My theory is Astraea once tried to purify the place by absorbing all the filth but overtime couldn't contain it so she succumbed to the filth that she was trying to absorb escaped from her body and only made the filth worse
Best lore videos on RUclips! Thanks for all of your hard work man!
They talk about magic and soul arts as a manifestation of *human will* and I felt Astraea was an example of that and more: Yuria talks about souls being contaminated. Astrea to me is the manifestation of the road to hell being paid with good intentions
Thank you for the lore, I'm dying for some more lore! Umbasa
So glad to get videos like this again :D
Your ds1 lore vids were the most interesting things brudda glad to see you making more lore vids
So glad to see you back in the lore game like that!
Dave, you and KF:AC music. Don't you fool me
So their story can be boiled down to: A pair of rich kids try to help an impoverished neighborhood, but go about it in the worst possible way.
i personally like the phrasing of “the worlds yuckyest mission trip”
That is just one of the interpretations. I see them as two rich kids who go against their privilege by using it to save those who suffer most from the evils of the world. Remember that just because WE know a lot about the world and what is needed to save the world, pretty much nobody else does.
@@grandbean9031 How the hell are a priestess and her anointed knight "rich kids"? Can you not function unless you frame everything in modern politics?
@@TheEbonyWarrior wow it’s hilarious how triggered you got by that. Astraea was a saint and came from nobility, Vinland came from a wealthy family or nobility too so it’s a simple description but not a wrong one to call them rich kids you big crybaby lmao.
The lore itself notes they come from rich lands. Another is how one of the twin fangs describes boletaria and it's kings as righteous and brave, but the merchant in boletaria mentions that at least the demons don't force them into battle. The lore is showing the perspective of the poor vs the rich.
Masterful content as always keep up the great work!
Good to see you back dave
I love Demon souls lore. Great job.
love your content dave this is my favorite part of demons lore
The story of Garl Vinland and Maiden Astrea is a true tragedy. The boss fight makes you feel like the villain
Amazing video as always Dave! Love reliving demon souls~
man, the graphics are so good
So, she is like Mother Theresa from Calcuta. Nice!
I really love your videos keep going 👍🏻
One thing I noticed is the horrible baby things are actually coming from her. I think she was succeeding in helping the people but as a holy woman akin to a nun she made the gravest sins she could do and laid with her knight. The self hatred and guilt of the act brought forth the power of the great old one and made her in the image she believes herself to be and that's the horror brought onto her. She became a demon and her knight still chose to love her regardless of the fact. This is why she begs for death once he is slain. I do believe those baby things are her and the knights children from the repeating act of sin or rather what she believed was sin.
Hehe, as someone commented, Blueblood is likely just a reference to her nobility. The real interesting thing about it is it's uniqueness. It's so unique it has it's own build (BBS), which differs from any other, making use of the otherwise most useless stat in the game, luck! :D
This is the only “demon” I would’ve sided with if given a chance. She truly had a gold heart and Garl was the definition of a knight loyal to his maiden. If she was truly just hungry for power, her and Garl wouldn’t have been begging others to leave before their death. Instead, they would pursue those who entered the Valley, rather than being passive like they are.
You are a hard-working amazing guy. Keep it up.
Would you be willing to map out where all of the lands are located in regards to Balataria?
Being of blue blood is straight up synonymous to being of aristocracy or nobility. At some point in history the disparity between the common folk and nobility was so large, they came to see them as having different colour blood and a different kind of being, or it was just a joke/insult.
Great work. I am excited for more.
Great video dave we want more
I like the idea she was there before the second scour age and it was her last resort to use the demon souls
I wonder if Tower of Latria and Valley of the defilement has some kinda of geographic connection.
When i work, operating equipment in the scrapyard, i think on the Valley Of Defilement. The scrapyard with its mountains of discarded trash, twisted metals and Its small rivers of oils, fluids and gas, beneath me. I think on the valley and i feel good.
Great music selection. Work on your narration. Slow it down and really enunciate and emphasize particular strong points. This channel has every bit the potential to stand aside something like Vaati’s, but you have to perfect your narration.
You sell me on getting a PS5 and this game more and more each day
Blue blood is just a term for nobility/the upper class.
I digress. Astrea was not evil or misguided. She resurrected the children and stillbirthed, she cared for and healed the defiled when no one else did, gave up her faith in god for these people, and embraced the old one so she could have the means to help. So much so that she managed to keep herself after the transformation.
I can see where you would say she resurrected children/stillbirthed based on the toxic sludge babies - but where do you get that she healed the depraved ones? They do have immunity to poison/toxic, but that could also just be because they were born in/live in an area filled with it.
I also don't think she was "evil", I do think she cared for them. I just find it more convincing that her way of easing their suffering was more ambiguously good/bad, as opposed to her being a purely good/positive person. It's a little more gray, as are a lot of things in the Souls games.
@@DaveControlLive from the description of Death Cloud: "Astraea, who willingly accepted the corrupted and corroded, naturally became the most corrupted of them all." It's unclear who are the corrupted and corroded. The citizens of the valley? The old one?
Also from Relief: "Spell from the Demon Maiden Astraea's Soul. Fully recover another by touching them. Though Astraea is the most impure demon of all, her works are equal to those of divine beings." The spell that is intended to cure someone by touching them and the citizens are in an area stricken by the plague.
Another point is what is the corruption that these texts refer to? From the wiki "Shambling, pained and horrifically disfigured. The Depraved ones were once people, but discarded into the Valley of Defilement, living in putrid disease and decay, they are every bit as horrific as the valley itself." The creatures right there were deemed corrupted even before the demon fog struck the place. For me, Corrupted here is synonym with unift, unwanted. These ppl were discarded and Astrea took upon her to help them bc their wellbeing was greater than any belief in god or chuch. She was labeled as corrupted by the same church that sent man after man to retrieve her, not rescue her. These men souls fed her miracles.
@Emanuel Príncipe Do you know where they got that quote from "Shambling, pained and horrifically disfigured."? I found it in the wiki's but can't find the actual source online or in my notes. (Just generally curious).
I think - given relief - that it's true she tried to give relief, but I think you also have to take into consideration the markers of plague all around her vicinity, and that the other spells from her soul are one that causes plague - then the miracle of what she does heals people of their bodies (implying she does the opposite of this - which the text itself says within the miracle).
I think Wichlor (in another comment) had more of the duality I (personally) see, that you might completely disagree with!
"i always believed Astraea to be a Demon that gathers all of the corruption even outside of the Valley of Defilement in an attempt to purify it all with her Demon's Soul. Unfortunately that meant that corruption in her immediate surroundings became of higher concentration because she pulled it all towards her, which is why the situation in the valley worsened. But that's just my take on it."
Anyways- my bad, the relief part was an obvious one for me to miss in my comment just above. :P
Either way, I think that's part of the fun of the lore of these games - the various ways that it can be interpreted. I'm sorry if I missed some marks in the video, or didn't make certain speculations clear enough.
@@DaveControlLive The quotation is present in both fandom and fextralife. It must have come from the source material, possibly npc dialog.
One of the lore aspects that I enjoy the most about this games is that, as was said, not everything is black and white. There is a component of subjectivity implied and the same story takes a piece of listener into it. Astrea is a the one the exemplifies this dichotomy the best. My view for it align more with VaatiVidya's.
@@nelprincipe Hmm, yeah, I saw it on both. But - I wrote in 1 document every single bit on NPC dialogue, and another document every single item description from the game. I cross referenced those, and couldn't find it. I also checked the archstone quotes, and it's not there. I checked the old demon-souls website, and couldn't find it there... The quote is unattributed to any source, so it makes me wonder where they got it - as I don't automatically trust wikis as sources. (Although, I do find them super useful).
I'm mainly trying to find if I missed something, how, and where I missed it, as it can help me for future videos. :)
HEY DAVE!!! LORE QUESTION ......
- the ring of sincere prayer. Well first off “sincere” is in the name. Secondly it says it’s one of the only TRUE relics of god remaining. With all the deception about faith and miracles belonging to the old...it seems it may be possible that this is not actually connected to him but the real “god”. To me this indicates that there is indeed an actual god. That and the beginning of the first cutscene
A very interesting take on Astraea because I was always told she is doing something good and you are simply breaking the balance as any other Miyazaki game by defeating her
Maiden Astraea reminds me so much about Mother Teresa.
In that on the surface, they both appear to be doing good, but ultimately are doing evil to the people they are there to help
More demons souls lore please
The remake did Astraea's fight dirty
How so? Haven't played it.
@@johnherb4243 A lot of the audio mixing and new song don't work as well as in the original fight. Sounds far more triumphant and epic than it should. It's by no means tarnished, but the new direction is far less effective than the simple gut punch of the original.
@@Pan_Z oh, ok. That's to bad.
Her boss music sounds like it's from the movie Suspiria.
It was heavily implied in the original game that Astraea had an affair with Garl Vinland and had to abort the baby. In her chamber are the only pools of blood in the area, and they all flow out from her skirt. Also its the only place where those fetus like babies swarm you and try to kill you. It seems like something about the demon souls exploit the weaknesses in your character to bring out the worst in you or to twist you to what the demon soul needs.
@Aaron Eckhart from In the Company of Men I honestly can't remember the full details. There are some older lore videos that do the full thing more justice. They crawled over everything that was said and the item descriptions and provided a pretty damning account that the saint and Garl had an affair that conceived a child she was forced to abort.
Did they ever bring up the sticky white stuff note?
I wonder how many lore ideas change due to the changes to environmental details.
Where does one find that monk passage remix at?
I'm honestly not sure at this point, but it was by "Hellkite Drake". Maybe try searching for his "Passage for a Monk" remix on YT, and see if someone reuploaded it?
about those Kings Field lore videos ...
1 day... 1 day... someeeee day.
Honestly - I do plan on making it. Maybe when I finish Demon's Souls Lore and a potential super show on Demon's Souls, I'll switch gears to finally finishing that series!
Who was the Chieftain of the valley 🤔 and what has become of him.
Why have I seen this face elsewhere, but cannot remember where?
Is that Kings Field music I hear?
At least we see where they got the inspiration for Lugwig's Moonlight sword in Bloodborne. Always in the hands of the greatest, within a pile of taint
Uh... ok?
Great video but I can't help feeling like I'm cheating on Vaati everytime I watch another souls lore video lol
Oh, if it is not the most impure demon!
Damn that woman. I'm sure she's a lowkey Nurgle worshipper. Heresy!
Please do more videos
Syrus Newland working on trying to finish another one for tmw!
There are more than just that for patreon? There can't be so many, one video you attempt to do justice to all the people paying their money to you for images and sound. 😉
thats Kings Field 3 music, not demon souls
So she's a girl Nurgle. A Girlgle if you will?
So...basically, Garl and all the other villagers of the Valley are bunch of simps?
Great game, shit console, I'll wait for it on PC.
Sadness
VaatiVidya lite. and that's not a bad thing
Ehh i honestly prefer Dave, not that I dislike Vaati, he's great as well. Dave's supershows are what put him over the top for me though.
@@connerlayne7998 fair enough. I like them both enough to watch pretty much all there stuff. But when it comes to soulsborne stuff... its hard to get better the Vaati
I HATE these 2 levels with a passion! No matter my SL I always have trouble with it lol
Subtitles: Made in Australia
Yeayuhhhh
Personally, I took pleasure in killing Maiden Astrea.
She was to me, the worst, most vile, most wicked NPC.
She goes on a mission from god, her stated reason to be there being that god sent her to aliviate suffering, and when made to face the task before her she bawks and flees because of the suffering that exists.
Well of course, your god sent you to address this, you were supposed to be the hand of compassion and the relief, and we see in her soul the restore life miracle which damns her even more, because SHE COULD HAVE HEALED THEM ALL. But no, like a child she shrugs the responsability of her mission, blames god, and proceeds to torture, torment, and destroy those around her. She became the polar opposite of a savior, she furthered the corruption because of her weak stomach.
All this, made worse by the fact she dragged Garl Vinland down with her.
All the people who looked to her for guidance she failed, not because god was cruel as she scapegoated but because she was cruel. She failed to be truly compassionate to restore life. I believe the dirty old woman when she said the place was much nicer before Astrea came.
Killing that evil monstrous woman was a pleasure.
Did you watch the video at all??? Even those who went against her mentioned her having a heart too pure. If she only cared about making others suffer and torment then they wouldn’t be asking you and the others before to leave them alone. They would be pursuing you in an attempt to feed on your soul. Even if you kill Garl, she COULD consume the demon soul and resist but instead, she retains her morals and doesn’t resist.
Don’t forget, she didn’t force those in the Valley to be soul starved, she OFFERED it to them in order to take away their pain and sorrow, which it did!
You should rewatch the video
First to the lore
And yet the only one so far without Dave's love
@Kamen Raiden Now it's just awkward if I heart the comment. 😶
@@DaveControlLive now you must heart every other comment on this video in order for you to fulfill your destiny and complete the prophecy.
Jesus just sell me a ps5.
yeah wtf I'm the 8th
Too bad Vaati already exists or this would be good 😁😉
No reason why they both can’t co-exist. 2 different lore content creators means 2 different lore videos :D
Too bad EpicNameBro already existed before Vaati.
Too bad I've been making Souls lore videos for 7+ years.
Too bad multiple people can't make videos about the same subject.
@@KayKudos there can only be 1
breh he hasnt played the og one lol
Who?