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  • Опубликовано: 25 янв 2025

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  • @eisenheim8487
    @eisenheim8487 8 лет назад +6

    Wonderful video Dr, Sadler, and it seems to be very relevant today. Especially among students or other people who typically procrastinate when writing a paper, or other work that is being delayed. I've had to combat procrastinating in my own studies and it is definitely a habit that you need to willfully or mindfully break.

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  8 лет назад +4

      +Eisenheim Yes - it's perhaps easier to procrastinate today than in the past as well. . .

  • @MrMarktrumble
    @MrMarktrumble 9 лет назад +2

    heavy metal music is a source of my mindlessness. I use it to stir up my passions and to motivate me. This may feel good, but even at the gym I have to turn it off for the exercises I find most challenging because I have to gather wind and concentrate it. I cannot let a superficial curiosity replace gathering information and observations and analyze them to make sense of them and of the world account I hold. I think the more I spend time on entertainment the more mindless I become. The net can turn into this. To become scattered, or a general feeling of lassitude is not healthy. To be focused and purposeful feels best.

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  9 лет назад +2

      +Mark Trumble I suspect that when it comes to genres of music like that, the effects depend quite a bit on the listener's relationship with the music

    • @MrMarktrumble
      @MrMarktrumble 9 лет назад +1

      I can't imagine someone listening to heavy metal without "getting worked up". Not anyone who actually likes (or liked) it. It has a focused , driving quality. ( now all he has to do is supply a counterexample, which I am presently searching in my own mind to find...)

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  9 лет назад +1

      Mark Trumble I used to use the Scorpions Love at First Sting Album as my going-to-sleep-music as a kid

    • @MrMarktrumble
      @MrMarktrumble 9 лет назад +2

      We do have different relationships to the music. Metal was always "cathartic music", allowing me to vent. I never played it to go to sleep. The only music I may have done that with is Brian Eno, Gregorian chant and once Faure's requiem. (remembering when I had my stereo in my bedroom). That album was a favorite of my wife years ago.

    • @MrMarktrumble
      @MrMarktrumble 8 лет назад +3

      I still use metal as a drill sergeant for the cardio portion of my workout, but outside of the gym the rest of the time is either no music, or quieter music. ( I have Russian chant in the car of all places) . The waters have to settle before the mind is clear. Concentration is a habit, that can be won, lost , and won again. I do not want to trade attention to less valuable things from more valuable things. I certainly have wandered, either by necessity or by curiosity, but always had a point like a lighthouse by which I oriented my location and path. My first question was "what is a good life" and my second "what does it mean to be wise?" Sometimes I feel dry and tragic that I have spent so much time on this, and feel like I am no closer, but the question persists, and it may have shaped some of the practical choices I have made in my life. Success is freely directing my attention to the best things, and being authentically wise. I do not know if I will ever think I will reach that goal.

  • @UnconsciousQualms
    @UnconsciousQualms 7 лет назад +2

    Do you think Epictetus is right in saying that all being mindful is beneficial all the time?

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  7 лет назад +4

      I think if we translate it as "attentiveness", and don't bring in any of the connotations of contemporary "mindfulness" lit, yes, probably so

    • @callmegoats
      @callmegoats 2 года назад

      @@GregoryBSadler this is years later so I might not get an answer. Is this mindfulness much different to the Buddhist one? I know that it is often practiced with meditation but supposed to apply to regular day activities (as described) as well. I dont know if Buddhist mindfulness is in this way contemporary or if it has some twisted meaning that is untruthful in the modern times.
      It is more or less also a question for myself as I really like Stoic teachings and also practice mindfulness medidation recently and I wonder how compatible it is in itself. I know and feel benefit of both parts themselves.
      Edit: It is also interesting that Epictetus said that we are not able to recall our mind when it is wandering when it is something that can be practiced. As far as I know/read.

    • @GregoryBSadler
      @GregoryBSadler  2 года назад +1

      @@callmegoats There is no one single Buddhist understanding of “mindfulness” I’d say, just as there’s no one single generic school of Buddhism. So the answer is going to be “it depends”