that kind of scaling should not exist it just further emphasizes "it's all about numbers" and "just keep upgrading" and less about strategy and team comp to actually beat a stage
@@hua.. i know but you have to agree that not meeting the recommended power score PENALIZES you is shit, idk maybe because this heavily affects me as i try not to spend too much on upgrades. i'm just salty that i can't play how i want to play
@@indragaming7799 it's still an annoying mechanic to play with don't you agree? yea playing for element and range advantages improve performance, but they could've implemented a better scaling mechanic and not this "you need to be this high or we deduct 25% of your power"
I have always enjoyed fighting bosses and such below reccommended in many RPGs. I love the skill requirement to beat such fights. makes me sad I can't do that here.
You can always do it while being 3K power down (it the limit of the soft cap, more than that and you actually cant do anything) it's pretty much the hardest difficulty and any mistake will wipe your entire team
@@Jojo-bg1re Many games, even outside of gachas, implement this, I think it's fair. The thing is that Nikke's formula makes it look bad since it's a flat out nerf but other games have the 'nerf' integrated in the damage formula. (e.g. if your max damage is equal to the square of the difference of atk-def, on an enemy with 100 def, you would deal 1 dmg if your attack is less than is 101 and 100 dmg if your atk is 110)
@@reyarch9486 even the stats are gated and its only fair if you auto everything because youll just wait for your power to go above the req hell why would they even implement manual play when it all boils down to how much power you got and if not for the bugs that makes some nikkes deal more damage than their supposed to it would be close to impossible to clear stages when you are under the required power because there are some raptures that are literal bullet sponges that makes clearing impossible if you dont have a broken DPS nikke EG:Harran,Scarlet cuz ull either die or time out due to lack of damage its a shitty system and they should purge it.
It's supposed to be an idle game after all. Even if you very minimal in the game, you would progress at least a campaign level (it's 1 of the daily mission) :))
@@MegaDuke4life grind item for upgrade skill everyday at simulation room, clear all enemy on campaign, max the equipment level, max the relationship, level up cube, if you lucky get dupe and use it for break limit is give you a little boost
this video pop up out of nowhere for me, and thank god for your tip. I recently got back into the game due to the watching one nikke video on youtube, which led to videos after videos of nikke being recommended on a daily lol. I was getting kinda stuck on clearing some mission within the progress story
I complete ch 11 with "red" power level, it's harder but not impossible. In the other scenario, I lost in simulation room with power level 10k points higher than recommendation.
im just logging in pressing outpost rewards few other presses and i leave. like a true idler cuz im not a tryhard like most people its an idle game at the end of the day. i clear story every now and then but when i lose I'll just wait a week and then continue as an idler should.
No strategy game all about big damage lol. They give you 2 choices, you beat the level with a high level or get shit on because you have 100 point less than recommended.
damn did u spend all ur resources on wipeout that u already have so much investment? im playing since day 1 no reroll, joined on the exact launch time and didnt waste any outpost recharge and my units are around lvl 72 with almost 15k power ^^ i pull exclusively with tickets for now and have around 22k gems saved. you think i should do 1 or 2 refreshes per day as f2p atleast for few days since i saved so much?
Actually I only spent 1-3 wipeout refreshes a day. The rest were from the initial buy on packs, pushing the campaign as far as I can before using the outpost boxes (so that you get big value from those 1H / 2H boxes).
I'm gonna reach the level cap soon and i need to know how to get more stronger after reaching max level. The collectibles are really hard to get. Does anybody have any suggestions?
Tbh its a good Way to Balance the game, i dont understand what everyone are complaining about. You can still beat the stage even with that 25% stat debuff, if you cant beat it try to min/max your Team Comps by using the Right Element / Type of weapon for the extra % Bonus damage increase to minimize the penalty. If they dont have that Mechanic in the game i would imagine beating all the stage will feel too easy and not challenging. And yes im F2P player, playing since Day1 with 18.5k Power (No Scarlet or Harran), currently sitting on Stage 8-27. And I still able to beat stages with 20k Recommended Power. If i really cant beat the stage after trying everything i could, i would just wait for the Outpost Reward / Play other content the game offers. Its an Idle Gacha game after all. Its a Marathon not a Sprint.
@@bennyhandoko7114 Keep Pushing Through the Campaign/Hard Campaign to level up Outpost Defense, try to find all the Relics and progress the Lesson at Tactics Academy in your Outpost for the +Income Buff and other Bonuses.
@@garobatintali I used Liter, Lud, Yuni, Privaty, and Guil sometimes i swap out Yuni for Rupee for extra DPS. I usually change my comp once in a while so this is not a perma team its just a team i used right now.
@@darwinprasetio9210 What they said basically, it's an idle game. If you think about the max level being 200, I'm already halfway (although more like 1/4 or maybe even less quite possibly due to higher level likely needs more exp, etc. scaling). The game hasn't even been out for a week yet as well. And if anything like in CBT, the coop will likely have level equalization so higher level people will be dropped down to lower level.
Dude. I spent $1000 and they don't have a pity system. Literally $1000 and I didn't even get ONE volume. Not ONE. The games rates are SO BAD! I'd go about 6 or 7 10x pulls and get SR units and on the 6th or 7th pull I'd get a SSR
@@BladeDevil that's not the point. The point is DON'T spend $1000, it's not worth it. I did it. It's an example for others that the rates are bad and you can't get the character you want. I never said "pity me".
@@DarkaiXeno I rerolled til I got a decent start. I knew it would take ages to get pilgrims and I had PTSD from rerolling 7DS so I wasn't bout to do that shit again, so I settled for volume and guillotine as starters. I think it was a good choice. but this dude pulling on a banner with zero pity when we knew a banner WITH PITY was coming in like 2 days was massively uh... not to be rude, but really really dumb. multiple times I would get 3+ SSRs on the featured banner. one ten pull I got 3 helms, instantly capping out her level cap, felt good.
Catch me at: www.twitch.tv/skyjlv/
We found this out before things blew up in reddit :P
Thanks bro, great video 👍👍👏
that kind of scaling should not exist
it just further emphasizes "it's all about numbers" and "just keep upgrading" and less about strategy and team comp to actually beat a stage
it's an idle game, it's gonna be all about numbers
@@hua.. i know but you have to agree that not meeting the recommended power score PENALIZES you is shit, idk maybe because this heavily affects me as i try not to spend too much on upgrades. i'm just salty that i can't play how i want to play
Element advantage and weapon type exist you know, use it to your advantage and stop complaining, theres alot of thing to counteract the 25% debuff
Less strategy : lol
Team comp :
smg & shotgun = close range
Ar & mg = mid range
Sniper & rocket = long range
@@indragaming7799 it's still an annoying mechanic to play with don't you agree? yea playing for element and range advantages improve performance, but they could've implemented a better scaling mechanic and not this "you need to be this high or we deduct 25% of your power"
I have always enjoyed fighting bosses and such below reccommended in many RPGs. I love the skill requirement to beat such fights. makes me sad I can't do that here.
You can always do it while being 3K power down (it the limit of the soft cap, more than that and you actually cant do anything) it's pretty much the hardest difficulty and any mistake will wipe your entire team
You can still do that here, I've only had 1 boss fight in the game where I had to be at the recommended power level
It sucks ngl your stats basically gets nerfed the lower your power is from the stage youre doing
@@Jojo-bg1re Many games, even outside of gachas, implement this, I think it's fair. The thing is that Nikke's formula makes it look bad since it's a flat out nerf but other games have the 'nerf' integrated in the damage formula. (e.g. if your max damage is equal to the square of the difference of atk-def, on an enemy with 100 def, you would deal 1 dmg if your attack is less than is 101 and 100 dmg if your atk is 110)
@@reyarch9486 even the stats are gated and its only fair if you auto everything because youll just wait for your power to go above the req hell why would they even implement manual play when it all boils down to how much power you got and if not for the bugs that makes some nikkes deal more damage than their supposed to it would be close to impossible to clear stages when you are under the required power because there are some raptures that are literal bullet sponges that makes clearing impossible if you dont have a broken DPS nikke EG:Harran,Scarlet cuz ull either die or time out due to lack of damage its a shitty system and they should purge it.
i noticed this too, i was below 50 cp and i cant even defeat the ch5 boss, then my cp is 12 above recommended and boom! Boss became squishy as fck
Huge problem to leveling the characters. Currently stuck at 11k power. But no pressure, take it slow and enjoy the game.
that's why I have 3 acc LOL. My main has 15k and both 2nd and 3rd acc are in 11k
It's supposed to be an idle game after all. Even if you very minimal in the game, you would progress at least a campaign level (it's 1 of the daily mission) :))
One of the ones on my friends list is at 42k. I wanted to ask how much he had to dump to get that high that fast but the messages wasn't working yet
@@MegaDuke4life grind item for upgrade skill everyday at simulation room, clear all enemy on campaign, max the equipment level, max the relationship, level up cube, if you lucky get dupe and use it for break limit is give you a little boost
@@noragami4268I have 2 acc because my first one I got stuck
this video pop up out of nowhere for me, and thank god for your tip. I recently got back into the game due to the watching one nikke video on youtube, which led to videos after videos of nikke being recommended on a daily lol. I was getting kinda stuck on clearing some mission within the progress story
I complete ch 11 with "red" power level, it's harder but not impossible. In the other scenario, I lost in simulation room with power level 10k points higher than recommendation.
Hey sky im a huge fan! Thanks for this lovely video YOU WHALE!
My biggest mistake was selecting "not obtained" NIKKE in gacha instead of selecting "obtained" NIKKE to get LB :')
im just logging in pressing outpost rewards few other presses and i leave. like a true idler cuz im not a tryhard like most people its an idle game at the end of the day. i clear story every now and then but when i lose I'll just wait a week and then continue as an idler should.
No strategy game all about big damage lol. They give you 2 choices, you beat the level with a high level or get shit on because you have 100 point less than recommended.
I feel like my best bet at getting stronger quickly would be the synchro device.
I'm f2p and my team are all 70+ except the ones I just got and synchro
Cap
Why cap lmao im f2p and my scarlet is lvl 80 and 4 of my other units are lvl 72
I’m f2p with a 90 Harran and 72 for the rest of my team
@@itz_dyce almost the same as mine I have 2 lvl 80 and the rest is 73
How?
I feel bad for f2p saving all your gems the shaft is bad in this game i see alot of people quiting afger the first banner helm
Wrong
I play FGO, so the shafting isnt as bad imo haha
Wrong
I was wrong the greatest banner I ever summon on in any gacha got piligram sand 2 helms in 4 multi
Lol i got shaft on my second account. T.T
damn did u spend all ur resources on wipeout that u already have so much investment?
im playing since day 1 no reroll, joined on the exact launch time and didnt waste any outpost recharge and my units are around lvl 72 with almost 15k power ^^
i pull exclusively with tickets for now and have around 22k gems saved. you think i should do 1 or 2 refreshes per day as f2p atleast for few days since i saved so much?
Actually I only spent 1-3 wipeout refreshes a day. The rest were from the initial buy on packs, pushing the campaign as far as I can before using the outpost boxes (so that you get big value from those 1H / 2H boxes).
I'm gonna reach the level cap soon and i need to know how to get more stronger after reaching max level. The collectibles are really hard to get. Does anybody have any suggestions?
hey may i know where you playing NIKKE?
thanks
LDPlayer 9
@@skyjlv thank you so much
just try on bluestack always forced close
After limit breaking there's a core enchantment requiring more duplicates? Sounds absolutely fucking awful.
not really
if you spend more $ and gets more SSR they will get higher numbers !
lol
How did he get the gold helm on harran
Well for ssr characters only apply to late game considering free to play players wont be able to reach 3 star w/ a ssr
Whale
caught at 1080p... fuck
Which server did u guys choose ?
NA
We can't use 212 with Noah right?
Noah is 40 second cooldown so that would be bad. Try to add another Burst II if you're using Noah.
Tbh its a good Way to Balance the game, i dont understand what everyone are complaining about. You can still beat the stage even with that 25% stat debuff, if you cant beat it try to min/max your Team Comps by using the Right Element / Type of weapon for the extra % Bonus damage increase to minimize the penalty. If they dont have that Mechanic in the game i would imagine beating all the stage will feel too easy and not challenging.
And yes im F2P player, playing since Day1 with 18.5k Power (No Scarlet or Harran), currently sitting on Stage 8-27. And I still able to beat stages with 20k Recommended Power. If i really cant beat the stage after trying everything i could, i would just wait for the Outpost Reward / Play other content the game offers. Its an Idle Gacha game after all. Its a Marathon not a Sprint.
How do you achieve 18k power?
@@bennyhandoko7114 Keep Pushing Through the Campaign/Hard Campaign to level up Outpost Defense, try to find all the Relics and progress the Lesson at Tactics Academy in your Outpost for the +Income Buff and other Bonuses.
Who's you use for your main team?
@@krulcifa Yo what is your main?
@@garobatintali I used Liter, Lud, Yuni, Privaty, and Guil sometimes i swap out Yuni for Rupee for extra DPS. I usually change my comp once in a while so this is not a perma team its just a team i used right now.
level 100 already how are you so fast?
$
Owh noo.. There is no hope for us freebie player
@@darwinprasetio9210 no hope for what bro?
@@darwinprasetio9210 This is an idle game mate.
@@darwinprasetio9210 What they said basically, it's an idle game. If you think about the max level being 200, I'm already halfway (although more like 1/4 or maybe even less quite possibly due to higher level likely needs more exp, etc. scaling). The game hasn't even been out for a week yet as well. And if anything like in CBT, the coop will likely have level equalization so higher level people will be dropped down to lower level.
Dude. I spent $1000 and they don't have a pity system. Literally $1000 and I didn't even get ONE volume. Not ONE. The games rates are SO BAD! I'd go about 6 or 7 10x pulls and get SR units and on the 6th or 7th pull I'd get a SSR
that was your stupid decision. you did it knowing there was no pity. we supposed to pity you?
@@BladeDevil that's not the point. The point is DON'T spend $1000, it's not worth it. I did it. It's an example for others that the rates are bad and you can't get the character you want. I never said "pity me".
Nah u just have shitty luck. You shouldve just rerolled for characters u want then dumped money. L comment
Might be skill diff
@@DarkaiXeno I rerolled til I got a decent start. I knew it would take ages to get pilgrims and I had PTSD from rerolling 7DS so I wasn't bout to do that shit again, so I settled for volume and guillotine as starters. I think it was a good choice.
but this dude pulling on a banner with zero pity when we knew a banner WITH PITY was coming in like 2 days was massively uh... not to be rude, but really really dumb.
multiple times I would get 3+ SSRs on the featured banner. one ten pull I got 3 helms, instantly capping out her level cap, felt good.
Money, a lot of money
Time for me to make brid op
She's good vs solobosses, she struggles severly versus groups of mobs, unlike the certain Katana bitch who can solo carry everything while 2 k cp down
Also keep in mind she has to be full hp to do the 1400% dmg thing she has on her burst since the skill descriptions are awful
@@alzheimeroldman8556 yep thats why I have a unit with taunt always active
wow, how much money u spend dudes. is like u almost got all pilgrim XD. and here iam just 4 SSR, diesel, sugar dupe1, noise, and maxwell
Bro if u are level 100 already can u make a video where u clear an ex stage with only one nikke?😂
The level on the ex stage is fixed to 80, you can not clear it with only 1 nikke
@@Coffee-tg2qs really?i didnt know it😅
they level equalize EX stages. I actually completed them using "level 1" units (you don't have to upgrade them).
Is it only the level? Are the nikkes skill and equipment not affected?
@@Shukonee Equipment and skill should be affected (if you pause in battle, you can check their stats if you click on their icon)
damn u whaling
The simple way, just top up for increase power
this reduce damage is stupid
Pay to win 🤢🤮🤮🤮
How to increase power, tl;dr: Whale. LOL. I saw that t9 Helmet, I have the same one.