In season 2 one of Love’s friends says that she “Cooks when she’s happy and bakes when she’s stressed”… the fact that Love opened an entire bakery in season 3 was a nice touch from the writers.
@@loladexploradora5567 i think the time given was more then enough & she herself had to be removed for many reasons of course keeping her alive more then that would require a spin off or a plot twist of some sort like her ending up with teo & then she falling back to joe which we both know those two scenarios are not better then the original the way it ended for me it was splendid but honestly for me personally i wouldn't mind if she were to stay longer & progress in a different line then she has in this season :-)
@@loladexploradora5567 we did, her past with her parents caused her to be emotionally unstable and impulsive. She protects her family by doing anything for them and loves Joe for being "a perfect match". She was basically the main characters in s3.
Love never needed to be organized, that’s why she’s so impulsive when left away from her family. Whenever she did something, the family fixer would take care of it for her. Joe didn’t have that, so whenever he did go after someone, it had to be thought out and he had to be thinking on his feet about how to get away with it if things didn’t go as planned. We see that very clearly with Natalie, he treats her death as an inconvenient annoyance more than anything, the same way one would act about his wife breaking an expensive cup or something. He seemed more annoyed that he had to take care of it rather than horrified about what Love had done. Even with Love, he presumably had been planning her murder for months.
@@1995mscastro she wasn’t planning his murder. She knew the only reason she was alive was because of the baby and was preparing for the worst. I’m not defending her it’s just what it was.
the line is actually pretty clever because they literally “wolf each other” at the end since both intoxicate the other with wolfsbane (i believe that’s the plant’s name that love was raising in their garden)
Fr I remember the first time seeing that episode where he locks himself and Joe in the room to write the script and he "jumps"from the window, i shot up from my couch so quickly and yelled "no wtf!!!" Smh they really tricked my ass with that one
At the very least, I want Victoria Pedretti/Love in S4. Even if she’s only in Joe’s psyche “helping” him cover up murders, or “whatcha gonna do now Joe?” She literally MADE season 3 for me.
i.e. psychological scars aside, Love Quinn is the perfect woman & perfect partner, morally speaking. It's heartbreaking how Joe basically throws her away in s2 after she sacrifices so much for him. Love might have some issues of her own, but at least you can tell she has a concept of love - whereas with Joe, I have a hard time telling if he has any notion of love outside of control.
So you’re gonna act like she didn’t Jill her ex husband then cheated on Joe with a 19 year old she’s morally trash just like Joe they’re literally twins the only difference is Joe is a planner and love is impulsive
honestly i still have hope she'll somehow be still alive in s4 and hun tdown joe. i'm starting to get tired of seeing the same story over and over again
joe longs to be loved as well in the end they were prefect for each other she disorganizes things kill on impulse & he covers it up but alas that's what he was fed up of of covering up unexpected murders all & all it was a beautiful series & can't wait to see how their kid grows grows up to be maybe just maybe he dies up killing joe in the future creating a full cycle
Joe isn't less impulsive or emotional than Love, he just puts his victims (for the most part) in the cage before he kills them. He absolutely kidnapped Benji, killed Peach, and killed Beck because his emotions got the better of him.
Are your serious? - Benjamin could have reported him so he has to get rid of him - He wasn’t gonna kills peach (yet) but peach was aiming to kill him so he killed her to protect himself -Beck was gonna escape and had no chance of ever loving Joe so he had to eliminate her The guy he pushes off the roof was his only impulsive kill.
@@complexfrost7076 the point op made was mainly about his emotional motivations. his actions were not necessarily because he is a killer who likes killing, but a disturbed person who becomes so obsessed and unhinged and caught up in his infatuations that he would murder people.
i don’t think that he’s less emotionally motivated (just in his case his emotion is equivalent to obsession). he’s just more calculated which imo makes him a more interesting character than love and her impulsive kills
I fell in love with Love's character and Victoria Pedretti! All of the acting and character development in this show is probably why such a deep analysis is possible but I love how you've laid everything out! You've created a really cool intersection of counseling/psychology/mental illnesses with pop culture, love it!
love has done many things but shes such a much more likeable character than joe because at least she believes in commitment. joe started the cheating and disrespected her so many times its not even funny. at least love took that therapy seriously unlike joe who completely denies that nobody would ever fully accept him except her. edit: yea duh i know love has her flaws, thats why i stated that shes "done many things". im not saying shes a saint im just saying shes the better fuck up compared to joe. i agree her constant annoying dumb last minute decisions are wrong but they have a reason behind it (not good, but theyre reasonable). she killed the neighbor because joe was stalking her, something he shouldnt have done especially after declaring a commitment to change his behaviour. she took the bait in committing adultery because someone else was giving her attention, that was supposed to be her husband. i find her to be a better option because she spiraled into a murder spree again because of joes unfaithfulness when it was clear as day that by the time theyre married, the murder shit shouldve been over once and for all. im saying love is actually decent without the one sided relationship whereas joe is ungrateful for even finding someone who truly understands him. shes capable of change in a better environment but joe chooses to go backwards to his patterns in the previous seasons. im just pissed that i had genuine hope for him and he just throws away all that character development out of boredom. when he actually does something decent then i will defend him. overall i dont 100% blame joe i believe its lazy writing from the writers.
@@anchenishsimba3275 if we remove the murderous tendencies she has, she’s a very relatable character for women who deal with a one sided relationship. being capable to relate to something makes it more “likable” for some.
Let's nor forget Love also had an affair (which Joe knew about but didn't confront her about it until the last episode of season 3) and went out of her way to talk down on Joe like she wasn't doing the same with the neighbor which is why she was left speechless when Joe confronted her about it.
Candace because she was so close in exposing Joe, she was the only decent character and i'm still upset Joe isn't in jail or dead. Girls with daddy issues love Joe
I mean the show would end if Joe goes jail so of course that can't happen yet because well... that's marketing and NETFLIX won't allow it if they know how much money that serie is giving
Love has this addiction of caring for other people because in her upbringing her sense of self identity was barely nurtured or even entertained. It’s like a survival instinct to find validation in supporting others, rather than Joe’s more elective path pursued when he’s simply infatuated with someone, yet comfortable letting things ruminate for the sake of long-term planning. The kind of difference between Love and Joe is that Joe would kill to eliminate competition and execute opportunity, killing was part of his plan, or at least the cage (which basically represents that confinement before death) was. Love did it on impulse to satisfy a sense of self security in these relationships that she never ended up finding. Joe tends to justify his actions with the “for you” mindset, doing this on an unwarranted behalf of other people’s emotions, he immediately assumes he’s making their lives easier, therefore worthy of intimacy. Love justifies her actions more for the self, she’d be left short handed without these people in her life that she takes these risks for. Very uncomfortable with being independent for a period of time because her character/identity is always defined with her role in uplifting *others*. I just find the characterization between these two very interesting. At face value they can seem very similar but there’s much more to dissect than just killing and “loving”.
People saying she's really sweet and kind despite her being an impulsive murderer with no signs of remorse afterwards are just as delusional as her. Would you justify all of her killings in the name of protecting her family? She would have killed Theo for godsake! One of the most innocent people in the show, basically a child. What's wrong with y'all? Let me remind you that the psychopath Joe was more willing to give people another chance and spare their life if they prove themselves reliable enough not to call the cops on them. There was no sign of that type of thinking in Love not until Joe teached her his own meticulous ways. With that being said, they're both crazy af and deserve no redemption but people justifying Love just because they relate to her is somewhat concerning. Maybe Joe deserved it but she had no right to do what she did to her ex-husband. She's controlling and selfish, a privileged entitled brat. Also, her relationship with her twin brother was fucked up, she enjoyed him being dependent on her, that's toxic af. She would have never let go of their child despite knowing he'll grow up just as damaged as they are. Oh not to mention she had an affair with their neghbour as well but somehow her mistakes don't count in her twisted little mind. Joe was ready to go their separate ways in a peaceful way without the drama but knowing how her ex husband ended up when he wanted to leave her, he grabbed the knife in case he needed to protect himself cause with Love conversations can easily get out of hand. I'm not particularly fond of his character either but her level of hypocrisy made me root for him in the end. I loved it when she died, Victoria Pedretti is one hell of an actress. Definitely one of my favourites.
@@davineuskens21 Love was toying with him too, flirting on a few occasions. He started it first of course but she never explicitly rejected his affection. It takes two to tango.
@@davineuskens21 Theo was a 19 year old kid. He was barely an adult. It's on the adult to completely cut ties and, you know, not have a relationship with a child/teen 🤦♀️
To be honest she isn't as bad, sure she's a murderer, but if we put this aside she's really cute and really broken at the same time, desperate to get love from other people like Joe, even her friends are extremely positive and supportive of her, probably why they are her friends in the first place, despite all everything she ever wanted was to be loved the way she thought she deserved, and not like her parents loved her (they didn't actually), so despite her being a murderous maniac at core she's really sweet and all she wants is for someone to love her truly for what she is, and she's willing to do anything to achieve that, i doubt she liked killing people, it was her defense mechanism.
crazy to hear you actually trying to justify her. An impulsive killer is way worse than one with actual reasons, this being Joe. Atleast Joe thinks properly before making the decision of killing someone. Love, on the other hand, literally killed Delilah and Candace without a second of hesitation. Aaaaand let's not forget she literally paralyzed her fiance to death. So "cute" and "sweet"....
@@masoudmansori6469 and joe stalks, masturbates to his victims, steals their tampons/bras etc, and justify it as if it was for the greater good of the humanity. at least Love is self-conscious about what she's doing. he spent the entire 3rd season gaslighting love and calling her crazy and psycho as if he wasn't the same, he loves killing for the woman he's infatuated with but when love did the same he was disgusted and was quick to find another one that could fit his fantasy (aka cheating on her). and if you wanna talk about impulsiveness why don't we take a look at 1st season? when joe killed peach? not premiditated. Beck? completely impulsive. Henderson, Jasper, Ron? Take a guess. He's the definiton of impulsive. if this is a competiton on who's crazier i can guarantee you that joe wins by a mile.
I have a question for everyone who watched the series, my question is did she love Joe for him or did she love the idea and fantasy of him and her together? Did Joe gaslight her or was Love always gonna kill him to stop him from leaving? So in S2 when we meet love for the first time she immediately gets attached to Joe right away and it only takes Joe two or three episodes to get attached to her but when she reveals that she is just like him he attempts to run away. In S3 we see the difference between Joe and Love Joe doesn’t want to kill people, but he will only do it either in self-defense or to keep himself from being exposed and love is very impulsive and emotionally driven we see them drifting away from each other to other people, but Love attempts to make it work out of emotional connection and Joe only married her for Henry.
i refuse to believe love is at fault. she’s hurt and needs help. She wants to be loved and have a loving family. joe is just plain insane and fantasizes over anyone
Well, Joe was not a loving husband. He was gonna slit her throat until she said she was pregnant. He was only in it for the baby. He was already trying to cheat on Love by the first episode of season three. Everything else was super spot on though.
Amazing!! 💛 Thank you so much for this analysis on Love she was one of my favorite characters in the series and I really like how she mirrors Joe as a villain! Definitely looking forward to any future analysis videos you do
So for me love is anti-social with boarder line traits. They fear being abandoned and act impulsive. That’s what makes herlove able to then a person whose anti-social with more psychopathic traits.. they are also both covert narcissist making them more likable to, then a stereotypical narcissist.
I slightly disagree with Joe being organized. Joe was also emotionally driven, he was just used to cleaning up after himself since he had no way out plus he had done that for a pretty long time. Love on the other hand needed the same money that brought her into this predicament to clean up making her kills seem sloppy because because never had to worry about the after math in her previous life. Great Video😊
oh my god, I hate this character so much, not just because she's very irrational/impulsive and cheated on Joe, but mostly because she killed Delilah who was innocent and didn't really deserve it. I have to admit that even if I hate her I admire all the work behind the construction of this character, both from the writers and especially from Victoria Pedretti
I'm not gonna lie, I love love but she brought this upon herself the moment she decided to kill Candace. She should've let Candance bring the situation to light and justice. But nonetheless I love love 🥺🥺🥺
Love is irony name for someone who seek it. She is vulnerable with her past due to lack of connection & love with her parents. She have abandonment issue and that trauma never heal along the way. She tried to change and to be better person but unfortunately she was chosen by Joe next victim, instead of healing of having a family to who she believe a reflection of her, Joe betrayed her trust , cheat on her first and makes her unloved after having the baby, because of that her judgement is clouded with unhealed trauma & emotion. I also think at first that she is impulsive killer but the thing is she manage to kill her husband undetected but with Joe she feel emotional due to the fact that she is insecure of Joe's love to other woman. She felt she wasn't enough even tho she try her best. After season I really hate Joe more than Love.
Very good video. I was really hoping the series would explain the issues their characters had. That's why I loved the second episode of season 3 because it looked like they were making progress in trying to understand why Joe and Love were the way they were. But they didnt continue that after the second episode so I really appreciate your video.
I love Victoria Pedretti performance as Love Quinn! My favorite scene of season 2 is when Love reveals herself. I love how unhinge she becomes in season 3! She has Emma Roberts' big smile!
Love need to come back like for real.... She literally tried harder than joe to not cheating on him. Joe is just never feel enough and never feel he founds his soulmate. Love is literally his soulmate.
I wish they showed the stuff like fortys funeral and how everyone took the news. We kind of only saw the after math of everything in the 3rd season but not really. They never explain who was Candance's external contact who would involve cops if she went missing
Idk how you guys can root for Quinn at the end when she’s the one that cheated first by giving into her need to be needed and was always and constantly evading responsibility and accountability by blaming it all to joe. Am I making sense on this one? But you guys can see how someone like this (besides the murdering) can be suffocating to live with? Always needing constant appraisals, and just to evasive. Remember when she was acting all evasive about why she was paying for Theo’s hotel room and as soon a joe got a little emotional, she leveraged that situation to flip everything on joe’s anger.
I believe Love snuck coke or drugs in anyrhing forty had of hers because of how easy it was for him to relapse and knew it meant shell have to continue "fixing him" or being there for him
I really love Love Quinn she’s the most interesting incredible well written character I’ve ever seen and the actor Victoria Pedretti played her phenomenally she deserves and Oscar I was devastated when the writers killed her off the show when season 4 came I really tried to get back into the show but I just couldn’t without Love
This comment section is enabling and concerning. I feel like you can relate, but to identify is not good. Love was an interesting character to watch but not a good person by any means. She gaslit alot
Does it matter how Joe or Love get there? She's a spoiled brat. She cheated and killed Natalie. Joe almost cheated but saved Theo. Theo could never love Love. Joe accepted her as a killer and wanted them to be better and stop. Only a killer can love a killer. She tried to stop her husband because he wanted to leave. Thats insane and made the shrine in the second season as more guilt she did it than saddness he is dead and gone. They made love worse. Would you do book love? The none killing love?
i hope you understand that just because joe didn’t have sex with natalie doesn’t mean he wasn’t cheating…. the minute he decided to plan behind loves back and steal natalies underwear and entertain that whole situation it became cheating. joe cheated, that’s the end of it. you’re acting like love is this horrible human being with no substance as if joe literally didn’t kill mariennes ex. love is not worst than joe, and joe is not worst than love. joe has no problem killing people, and we see that multiple times throughout the whole SERIES. the whole point of the season is that they’re the same, and joe hates love because she reminds him of everything he is, and he doesn’t like seeing those parts of him.
@@blickky_glickky1860 the difference is that Joe wouldn’t even be with Love if he wasn’t scared of her. He never wanted that life. His opinions were never accounted for when they moved to Madre Linda. Joe cheated because he couldn’t get a divorce, Love cheated inspite of the ability to get a divorce
Love Quinn deserved better. I feel like she would’ve been a perfect character if the writers wanted her to be. I would’ve loved to see how two psycho/sociopaths make it work.
Many wives over the world go under a lot of emotional pressure bc they’d be held responsible if their marriages don’t work which is unfair af but of course none of them go on a killing rampage. The fact that her husband was Joe of all people and no true psychiatric help or friend is what possibly drove her to that point. She was beginning to normalise killing and it’s sad. What most women would do is to cope, Love didn’t want to, but her solution wasn’t at all healthy. Instead you should just drive yourself away from the problem and understand that it is not good or healthy for you or what you love (her baby).
I knew from the moment I started watching season 2, I didn’t like her, almost done with season 3 I knew I was right. She is the only character I wanted to see go to jail for life.
My favorite character is Joe. not thirsty for him at all, i personally relate to him and love a lot and i dont think its creepy or wrong either. i hope healing for people like Joe and Love, i wish redemption without death, obviously.
@@TheMassiel100 killers criminals sinners they are just titles given to people for their actions by others as an example for some you may be a friend for some the one they love for some the one they hate for some the worst person alive & for some the love of their life but in the end you're just a human just like that may be fictional but joe is a human too we all relate to things people we see we know & he is one of the many.... side note i relate to him as well i think we all do at some point relate to anything we see compare that's just how we are what's mature is to always know where a person's coming from why & how they feel the way they do why they do the things that we wouldn't do so always ask questions always for the right reasons :-)
Who is your favorite character from YOU? Let me know in the comments below! 😊
Honestly, Henry is pretty cute!
Sherry grew on me a lot but Marianne was probably my favorite!
I really liked Forty
And Peach
I really like Joe and love❤️
Love 🖤
Love
In season 2 one of Love’s friends says that she “Cooks when she’s happy and bakes when she’s stressed”… the fact that Love opened an entire bakery in season 3 was a nice touch from the writers.
That's a neat observation! :O
But at the end she
cooked the chicken
@@PenguinNinja45 wasn't it roast chicken? as in, roasted in an oven?
@@PenguinNinja45 roast chicken was the first meal she cooked Joe. It symbolizes the beginning and the end
@@autumnfranklin6790 that makes so much sense
Love Quinn was one of the most interesting characters I’ve ever saw in any TV show - phenomenal work from the producers, writers and Victoria Pedretti
I wish we had more time to get to know her, truly know her more than just being Joe's psychotic wife
@@loladexploradora5567 i think the time given was more then enough & she herself had to be removed for many reasons of course keeping her alive more then that would require a spin off or a plot twist of some sort like her ending up with teo & then she falling back to joe which we both know those two scenarios are not better then the original the way it ended for me it was splendid but honestly for me personally i wouldn't mind if she were to stay longer & progress in a different line then she has in this season :-)
@Anonymus X yes but she was a well written and interesting character
Legit yess
@@loladexploradora5567 we did, her past with her parents caused her to be emotionally unstable and impulsive. She protects her family by doing anything for them and loves Joe for being "a perfect match". She was basically the main characters in s3.
Love never needed to be organized, that’s why she’s so impulsive when left away from her family. Whenever she did something, the family fixer would take care of it for her. Joe didn’t have that, so whenever he did go after someone, it had to be thought out and he had to be thinking on his feet about how to get away with it if things didn’t go as planned. We see that very clearly with Natalie, he treats her death as an inconvenient annoyance more than anything, the same way one would act about his wife breaking an expensive cup or something. He seemed more annoyed that he had to take care of it rather than horrified about what Love had done. Even with Love, he presumably had been planning her murder for months.
love had been planning his murder too though, with the wolfsbane
He didn't plan her murder, he just made some preparations in case if she would try to kill him.
@@alext7500 Yeah and he actually says that cause he started suspecting from her. The initial plan was only getting a divorce.
@@1995mscastro she wasn’t planning his murder. She knew the only reason she was alive was because of the baby and was preparing for the worst. I’m not defending her it’s just what it was.
@@j0j01192 but then she poisoned him first when he just wanted a divorce
I'm no therapist but uttering "I Wolf You" to each other should immediately warrant them to be in a mental institution
the line is actually pretty clever because they literally “wolf each other” at the end since both intoxicate the other with wolfsbane (i believe that’s the plant’s name that love was raising in their garden)
LMAOO 😂🤣
@@begumkul6415 I loved that, its a clever little detail
Why?
Lmaooo
forty was annoying at first but i grew to sympathize him and now he’s my fav character 🥺 he deserved better
Fr I remember the first time seeing that episode where he locks himself and Joe in the room to write the script and he "jumps"from the window, i shot up from my couch so quickly and yelled "no wtf!!!" Smh they really tricked my ass with that one
@@gambeano facts!!!
exactlyyy same
He’s a very tragic character.
Same
At the very least, I want Victoria Pedretti/Love in S4. Even if she’s only in Joe’s psyche “helping” him cover up murders, or “whatcha gonna do now Joe?” She literally MADE season 3 for me.
i.e. psychological scars aside, Love Quinn is the perfect woman & perfect partner, morally speaking. It's heartbreaking how Joe basically throws her away in s2 after she sacrifices so much for him. Love might have some issues of her own, but at least you can tell she has a concept of love - whereas with Joe, I have a hard time telling if he has any notion of love outside of control.
You hit the nail on the head and I couldn’t put my finger on it. A sense/ understanding of love.
Morally? She's a cheater also, unfortunately, but i get what you mean
So you’re gonna act like she didn’t Jill her ex husband then cheated on Joe with a 19 year old she’s morally trash just like Joe they’re literally twins the only difference is Joe is a planner and love is impulsive
A sense of control and infatuation, that's his definition of love.
Love is definitely my favorite in the show. I hope you analyze Blair Waldorf in an episode. She is such a complex character in my eyes.
Ooo I love Gossip Girl! Great suggestion! 😊
@@HeatherThomCounselling I second this! A Blair Waldorf analysis would be so interesting
@@HeatherThomCounselling PLEASE ANALYSE HER I LOVE HER SO MUCH
The fact that young Forty looks almost exactly like Theo 🤨🤨😬😳
Damn true
Lmaoo I just noticed this too
omg
Oh Lord…
I like Love the most. She's the most tragic character that longs to be loved but ended up with Joe. I hoped she got her redemption and better ending.
honestly i still have hope she'll somehow be still alive in s4 and hun tdown joe. i'm starting to get tired of seeing the same story over and over again
joe longs to be loved as well in the end they were prefect for each other she disorganizes things kill on impulse & he covers it up but alas that's what he was fed up of
of covering up unexpected murders all & all it was a beautiful series & can't wait to see how their kid grows grows up to be
maybe just maybe he dies up killing joe in the future creating a full cycle
@@soph5976 how? No coming back from that ending.
Love picked Joe herself.
Joe longs to be loved as well. She literally tried to kill her first husband, does that mean he deserved to die?
Joe isn't less impulsive or emotional than Love, he just puts his victims (for the most part) in the cage before he kills them.
He absolutely kidnapped Benji, killed Peach, and killed Beck because his emotions got the better of him.
Are your serious?
- Benjamin could have reported him so he has to get rid of him
- He wasn’t gonna kills peach (yet) but peach was aiming to kill him so he killed her to protect himself
-Beck was gonna escape and had no chance of ever loving Joe so he had to eliminate her
The guy he pushes off the roof was his only impulsive kill.
@@complexfrost7076 he literally sneaked around in the house attempting to find the gun and shoot peach
@@complexfrost7076 the point op made was mainly about his emotional motivations. his actions were not necessarily because he is a killer who likes killing, but a disturbed person who becomes so obsessed and unhinged and caught up in his infatuations that he would murder people.
I feel like beck’s was not impulsive but it’s because she found out he was a murder so it was to cut loose ends
i don’t think that he’s less emotionally motivated (just in his case his emotion is equivalent to obsession). he’s just more calculated which imo makes him a more interesting character than love and her impulsive kills
I fell in love with Love's character and Victoria Pedretti! All of the acting and character development in this show is probably why such a deep analysis is possible but I love how you've laid everything out! You've created a really cool intersection of counseling/psychology/mental illnesses with pop culture, love it!
love has done many things but shes such a much more likeable character than joe because at least she believes in commitment. joe started the cheating and disrespected her so many times its not even funny. at least love took that therapy seriously unlike joe who completely denies that nobody would ever fully accept him except her.
edit: yea duh i know love has her flaws, thats why i stated that shes "done many things". im not saying shes a saint im just saying shes the better fuck up compared to joe. i agree her constant annoying dumb last minute decisions are wrong but they have a reason behind it (not good, but theyre reasonable). she killed the neighbor because joe was stalking her, something he shouldnt have done especially after declaring a commitment to change his behaviour. she took the bait in committing adultery because someone else was giving her attention, that was supposed to be her husband. i find her to be a better option because she spiraled into a murder spree again because of joes unfaithfulness when it was clear as day that by the time theyre married, the murder shit shouldve been over once and for all. im saying love is actually decent without the one sided relationship whereas joe is ungrateful for even finding someone who truly understands him. shes capable of change in a better environment but joe chooses to go backwards to his patterns in the previous seasons. im just pissed that i had genuine hope for him and he just throws away all that character development out of boredom. when he actually does something decent then i will defend him. overall i dont 100% blame joe i believe its lazy writing from the writers.
couldn't agree more, especially in season 3, Joe was soo out of character
You must be a white women. She is not likable one bit
@@anchenishsimba3275 if we remove the murderous tendencies she has, she’s a very relatable character for women who deal with a one sided relationship. being capable to relate to something makes it more “likable” for some.
Let's nor forget Love also had an affair (which Joe knew about but didn't confront her about it until the last episode of season 3) and went out of her way to talk down on Joe like she wasn't doing the same with the neighbor which is why she was left speechless when Joe confronted her about it.
I was legit frustrated when I was watching her at the end throwing everything at Joe's face like she wasn't doing her own thing lol the audacity 🤣
Candace because she was so close in exposing Joe, she was the only decent character and i'm still upset Joe isn't in jail or dead. Girls with daddy issues love Joe
I mean the show would end if Joe goes jail so of course that can't happen yet because well... that's marketing and NETFLIX won't allow it if they know how much money that serie is giving
The second joe dies the show dies. Love was expendable, joe isnt
@@TheRubberMatchi gues He will die. In the Last Season of the series.
Love has this addiction of caring for other people because in her upbringing her sense of self identity was barely nurtured or even entertained. It’s like a survival instinct to find validation in supporting others, rather than Joe’s more elective path pursued when he’s simply infatuated with someone, yet comfortable letting things ruminate for the sake of long-term planning.
The kind of difference between Love and Joe is that Joe would kill to eliminate competition and execute opportunity, killing was part of his plan, or at least the cage (which basically represents that confinement before death) was. Love did it on impulse to satisfy a sense of self security in these relationships that she never ended up finding.
Joe tends to justify his actions with the “for you” mindset, doing this on an unwarranted behalf of other people’s emotions, he immediately assumes he’s making their lives easier, therefore worthy of intimacy.
Love justifies her actions more for the self, she’d be left short handed without these people in her life that she takes these risks for. Very uncomfortable with being independent for a period of time because her character/identity is always defined with her role in uplifting *others*.
I just find the characterization between these two very interesting. At face value they can seem very similar but there’s much more to dissect than just killing and “loving”.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU! I needed this one in particular because I was seeing myself in some of Love's character traits.
You're very welcome! I hope you enjoyed this video 😊
OMFG
Oh. Hell no
@@josuefernandez1087 LMFAOOOOO
@@josuefernandez1087 LMAO
People saying she's really sweet and kind despite her being an impulsive murderer with no signs of remorse afterwards are just as delusional as her. Would you justify all of her killings in the name of protecting her family? She would have killed Theo for godsake! One of the most innocent people in the show, basically a child. What's wrong with y'all? Let me remind you that the psychopath Joe was more willing to give people another chance and spare their life if they prove themselves reliable enough not to call the cops on them. There was no sign of that type of thinking in Love not until Joe teached her his own meticulous ways. With that being said, they're both crazy af and deserve no redemption but people justifying Love just because they relate to her is somewhat concerning. Maybe Joe deserved it but she had no right to do what she did to her ex-husband. She's controlling and selfish, a privileged entitled brat. Also, her relationship with her twin brother was fucked up, she enjoyed him being dependent on her, that's toxic af. She would have never let go of their child despite knowing he'll grow up just as damaged as they are. Oh not to mention she had an affair with their neghbour as well but somehow her mistakes don't count in her twisted little mind. Joe was ready to go their separate ways in a peaceful way without the drama but knowing how her ex husband ended up when he wanted to leave her, he grabbed the knife in case he needed to protect himself cause with Love conversations can easily get out of hand. I'm not particularly fond of his character either but her level of hypocrisy made me root for him in the end. I loved it when she died, Victoria Pedretti is one hell of an actress. Definitely one of my favourites.
I wouldn't say Theo is innocent, he kept going after Love even tough she told him to back off and that she was married.
@@davineuskens21 Love was toying with him too, flirting on a few occasions. He started it first of course but she never explicitly rejected his affection. It takes two to tango.
Perfect summary of the situation
@@davineuskens21 Theo was a 19 year old kid. He was barely an adult. It's on the adult to completely cut ties and, you know, not have a relationship with a child/teen 🤦♀️
Exactlyyy.. Love and Joe are two extremely mentally ill people and both of them need some rigorous therapy and jail time.
Honestly don’t even feel like watching season 4 if love won’t be on there
Same, now it’s back to boring old Joe and his cliche ways of finding “the one.”
She is dead tho
@@quinnpeterson637 then killing them bc of his obsessions
@@xariyahmitchell3448 Unless he loses in the final season...
Forty dying was brutal enough but now I gotta be Love-less too?!
Underrated channel, I really want to understand why they do what they do and there really actual humans like love and Jo
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love is my favorite character!!!! and after watching this video i love her even more!!! this is such an amazing analysis thank youuu :D
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My mom is the same, she doesnt care about me. She just cares about herself, what she'd look like whenever I do things
To be honest she isn't as bad, sure she's a murderer, but if we put this aside she's really cute and really broken at the same time, desperate to get love from other people like Joe, even her friends are extremely positive and supportive of her, probably why they are her friends in the first place, despite all everything she ever wanted was to be loved the way she thought she deserved, and not like her parents loved her (they didn't actually), so despite her being a murderous maniac at core she's really sweet and all she wants is for someone to love her truly for what she is, and she's willing to do anything to achieve that, i doubt she liked killing people, it was her defense mechanism.
Dude, you sound just like Theo. And would probably end up the same way if you ran into a girl like Love, lol
crazy to hear you actually trying to justify her. An impulsive killer is way worse than one with actual reasons, this being Joe. Atleast Joe thinks properly before making the decision of killing someone. Love, on the other hand, literally killed Delilah and Candace without a second of hesitation. Aaaaand let's not forget she literally paralyzed her fiance to death. So "cute" and "sweet"....
@@masoudmansori6469 it’s just a show
@@masoudmansori6469 and she literally took care of it
@@masoudmansori6469 and joe stalks, masturbates to his victims, steals their tampons/bras etc, and justify it as if it was for the greater good of the humanity. at least Love is self-conscious about what she's doing. he spent the entire 3rd season gaslighting love and calling her crazy and psycho as if he wasn't the same, he loves killing for the woman he's infatuated with but when love did the same he was disgusted and was quick to find another one that could fit his fantasy (aka cheating on her). and if you wanna talk about impulsiveness why don't we take a look at 1st season? when joe killed peach? not premiditated. Beck? completely impulsive. Henderson, Jasper, Ron? Take a guess. He's the definiton of impulsive. if this is a competiton on who's crazier i can guarantee you that joe wins by a mile.
Gosh I knew I loved her so much because she's a crazier version of me
I have a question for everyone who watched the series, my question is did she love Joe for him or did she love the idea and fantasy of him and her together? Did Joe gaslight her or was Love always gonna kill him to stop him from leaving?
So in S2 when we meet love for the first time she immediately gets attached to Joe right away and it only takes Joe two or three episodes to get attached to her but when she reveals that she is just like him he attempts to run away.
In S3 we see the difference between Joe and Love Joe doesn’t want to kill people, but he will only do it either in self-defense or to keep himself from being exposed and love is very impulsive and emotionally driven we see them drifting away from each other to other people, but Love attempts to make it work out of emotional connection and Joe only married her for Henry.
i refuse to believe love is at fault. she’s hurt and needs help. She wants to be loved and have a loving family. joe is just plain insane and fantasizes over anyone
Mental Health problems does not exempt someone from being at fault for doing terrible things such as murdering someone
But she killed her ex husband..
Well, Joe was not a loving husband. He was gonna slit her throat until she said she was pregnant. He was only in it for the baby. He was already trying to cheat on Love by the first episode of season three. Everything else was super spot on though.
Amazing!! 💛 Thank you so much for this analysis on Love she was one of my favorite characters in the series and I really like how she mirrors Joe as a villain! Definitely looking forward to any future analysis videos you do
So for me love is anti-social with boarder line traits. They fear being abandoned and act impulsive. That’s what makes herlove able to then a person whose anti-social with more psychopathic traits.. they are also both covert narcissist making them more likable to, then a stereotypical narcissist.
I slightly disagree with Joe being organized. Joe was also emotionally driven, he was just used to cleaning up after himself since he had no way out plus he had done that for a pretty long time. Love on the other hand needed the same money that brought her into this predicament to clean up making her kills seem sloppy because because never had to worry about the after math in her previous life.
Great Video😊
oh my god, I hate this character so much, not just because she's very irrational/impulsive and cheated on Joe, but mostly because she killed Delilah who was innocent and didn't really deserve it. I have to admit that even if I hate her I admire all the work behind the construction of this character, both from the writers and especially from Victoria Pedretti
I really like Love. I can relate to her in a few ways (besides being rich and a murderer lol). Thanks for this video!
I'm not gonna lie, I love love but she brought this upon herself the moment she decided to kill Candace. She should've let Candance bring the situation to light and justice. But nonetheless I love love 🥺🥺🥺
or the moment she killed Delilah, Joe was literally going to leave LA and free delilah but Love killed her.
Love is irony name for someone who seek it. She is vulnerable with her past due to lack of connection & love with her parents. She have abandonment issue and that trauma never heal along the way. She tried to change and to be better person but unfortunately she was chosen by Joe next victim, instead of healing of having a family to who she believe a reflection of her, Joe betrayed her trust , cheat on her first and makes her unloved after having the baby, because of that her judgement is clouded with unhealed trauma & emotion. I also think at first that she is impulsive killer but the thing is she manage to kill her husband undetected but with Joe she feel emotional due to the fact that she is insecure of Joe's love to other woman. She felt she wasn't enough even tho she try her best. After season I really hate Joe more than Love.
Glad this shows up in my recommendations, we have the same position and role in the family that's why I deeply relate to her
Very good video. I was really hoping the series would explain the issues their characters had. That's why I loved the second episode of season 3 because it looked like they were making progress in trying to understand why Joe and Love were the way they were. But they didnt continue that after the second episode so I really appreciate your video.
Only Gone Girl Amazing Amy can match the level of Love Quinn
Love Quinn was my favorite character! She made the entire 2nd & 3rd seasons amazing.. The first season was boring compared to 2 & 3.
Season 1 was amazing bro wtf r u talking about
@@User-pb1sj It was nice sure. But then season 2 and 3 came and it just don't hold up to it
I love Victoria Pedretti performance as Love Quinn! My favorite scene of season 2 is when Love reveals herself. I love how unhinge she becomes in season 3! She has Emma Roberts' big smile!
hmm maybe its a silly idea but a video on why joe and love's marriage started falling apart?
Love need to come back like for real.... She literally tried harder than joe to not cheating on him. Joe is just never feel enough and never feel he founds his soulmate. Love is literally his soulmate.
twinflame*
Honestly a lot of Joe’s kills are impulsive too. But great video overall!!
Love is my favorite this season.
I wish they showed the stuff like fortys funeral and how everyone took the news. We kind of only saw the after math of everything in the 3rd season but not really. They never explain who was Candance's external contact who would involve cops if she went missing
Idk how you guys can root for Quinn at the end when she’s the one that cheated first by giving into her need to be needed and was always and constantly evading responsibility and accountability by blaming it all to joe. Am I making sense on this one? But you guys can see how someone like this (besides the murdering) can be suffocating to live with? Always needing constant appraisals, and just to evasive. Remember when she was acting all evasive about why she was paying for Theo’s hotel room and as soon a joe got a little emotional, she leveraged that situation to flip everything on joe’s anger.
Love was my favorite character 🥺
Thanks for your fascinating explanation. I learned a lot from it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I believe Love snuck coke or drugs in anyrhing forty had of hers because of how easy it was for him to relapse and knew it meant shell have to continue "fixing him" or being there for him
i cant help it, i love love.
Same I think it’s Victoria as well she acts her so well!
Love= BPD; Joe= NPD
Love was my favorite character. I probably won’t bother with s4 if she’s not in it . Js!
Can you make a video analysis about the Euphoria characters? It’s a show on HBO.
omg yes
I really love Love Quinn she’s the most interesting incredible well written character I’ve ever seen and the actor Victoria Pedretti played her phenomenally she deserves and Oscar I was devastated when the writers killed her off the show when season 4 came I really tried to get back into the show but I just couldn’t without Love
I identify with Love a lot, is that bad?
Ooof NO LoL.
no it’s not bad. she’s got traits of bpd
No. the show is drama so she’s written to be somewhat relatable with the audience :)
it’s okay, as long as you don’t mean you relate to the murdering part
This comment section is enabling and concerning. I feel like you can relate, but to identify is not good. Love was an interesting character to watch but not a good person by any means. She gaslit alot
This video is great! You offer such interesting insight. I’d love to see your takes on Kendall Roy from HBO’s Succession.
I havent finished season 3 yet and didnt care to be spoiled, but OMG lmao thats not what I was expecting lol
Does it matter how Joe or Love get there? She's a spoiled brat. She cheated and killed Natalie. Joe almost cheated but saved Theo. Theo could never love Love. Joe accepted her as a killer and wanted them to be better and stop.
Only a killer can love a killer. She tried to stop her husband because he wanted to leave. Thats insane and made the shrine in the second season as more guilt she did it than saddness he is dead and gone. They made love worse. Would you do book love? The none killing love?
i hope you understand that just because joe didn’t have sex with natalie doesn’t mean he wasn’t cheating…. the minute he decided to plan behind loves back and steal natalies underwear and entertain that whole situation it became cheating. joe cheated, that’s the end of it. you’re acting like love is this horrible human being with no substance as if joe literally didn’t kill mariennes ex. love is not worst than joe, and joe is not worst than love. joe has no problem killing people, and we see that multiple times throughout the whole SERIES. the whole point of the season is that they’re the same, and joe hates love because she reminds him of everything he is, and he doesn’t like seeing those parts of him.
@@blickky_glickky1860 the difference is that Joe wouldn’t even be with Love if he wasn’t scared of her. He never wanted that life. His opinions were never accounted for when they moved to Madre Linda. Joe cheated because he couldn’t get a divorce, Love cheated inspite of the ability to get a divorce
@@SP-ey5vx had it not been for Love getting pregnant Joe would've killed her
@@SP-ey5vx the only reason he got married to her was because of the baby.....
My childhood is very alike to her's. I'm not a killer tho. 😄
I’m so sorry that you had to go through that and good you didn’t turn out like Love
great video!
Love Quinn deserved better. I feel like she would’ve been a perfect character if the writers wanted her to be. I would’ve loved to see how two psycho/sociopaths make it work.
I think.. being with the wrong person can make you feel like you’re going crazy.
Only love quinn can fix me...
I love henry, the baby. But my favorite is joe.
Many wives over the world go under a lot of emotional pressure bc they’d be held responsible if their marriages don’t work which is unfair af but of course none of them go on a killing rampage.
The fact that her husband was Joe of all people and no true psychiatric help or friend is what possibly drove her to that point. She was beginning to normalise killing and it’s sad.
What most women would do is to cope, Love didn’t want to, but her solution wasn’t at all healthy. Instead you should just drive yourself away from the problem and understand that it is not good or healthy for you or what you love (her baby).
Wow this is well explained
Love absolutely would've been the one if she hadn't revealed to him that she was a killer. He saw himself in her and that caused him to pull away.
i love love so much
Thanks for the video, it was beautiful. I wish I had Turkish subtitles, I'd like to see it better. ✨
Love definitely has bpd
i hated beck the most even tho joe and love were brutal killers...
When did it become okay to only live for the loyalty of your husband ? When did that become honorable 😭
love was perfect for joe and thats why he killed her. too perfect, too much like him.
I love this show for being so unique in the fact that it actively tries to make you hate the main characters, and they do a great job at it lol
can you please react to killing eve? specially the episode "are you from pinner?" i'd loooove to see 😭😭
I am love but not a criminal version
Ugh I love her
Abusive mother causes her to be pleaser of her mom so it’s more like she’s co dependent to her mother not fourty
JOE is always my fav
Your video just described me
I knew from the moment I started watching season 2, I didn’t like her, almost done with season 3 I knew I was right. She is the only character I wanted to see go to jail for life.
Oops just spoiled it for myself
My favorite character is Joe. not thirsty for him at all, i personally relate to him and love a lot and i dont think its creepy or wrong either. i hope healing for people like Joe and Love, i wish redemption without death, obviously.
You relate to a serial killer?
I relate to Joe too...mostly his rational thoughts.. coz I have a great internal monologue than outer one..
@@TheMassiel100 killers criminals sinners they are just titles given to people for their actions by others
as an example for some you may be a friend for some the one they love for some the one they hate for some the worst person alive & for some the love of their life but in the end you're just a human just like that may be fictional but joe is a human too we all relate to things people we see we know & he is one of the many....
side note i relate to him as well i think we all do at some point relate to anything we see compare that's just how we are
what's mature is to always know where a person's coming from why & how they feel the way they do why they do the things that we wouldn't do so always ask questions always for the right reasons :-)
I’m calling the police
@@jawncat hahahahahahah that made me laugh 😂😂
What is Love? Good one Heather! "What is Love, Baby don't hurt me don't hurt me no more" Haddaway - What Is Love [Official] - RUclips
Love reminds me of my EX.
Jesus… The murder too, or it didn’t get to that? 😅
Glad you made it out alive then 💀
Sure, why are you still alive?
the funny thing is joe reminds me of my ex best friend who ended up kind of obsessed with me. glad i’m here alive too
the actress they got to play Love as a kid looks nothing like her lmao. I know you look different as an adult but not THAT different
I really did not like love
Forty and another woman black
Lady on the library who Joe falls
In love with
queen
I hated her so much , jeez
This is amazing I want one about Candace and forty