Rise of the 8-Cores | i7-5960X
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- Опубликовано: 15 июл 2024
- Testing the Intel i7-5960X eight core CPU in 9 popular and demanding games in 2023, using an RTX 3070 discrete GPU.
In 2014, the first consumer 8-core 16-thread CPU arrived at a time when it was mostly unneeded. Rich enthusiasts could own themselves a first-of-its-kind CPU for "just" $1000 US, but unless they were into heavy multitasking or production workloads, its purpose as a gaming CPU was mainly as a pretty pointless flex. Now, in 2023, 8 cores are common among new Intel i7 and AMD Ryzen 7 CPUs, and the extra threads often actually help gaming performance rather than hinder it. Now down to less than $100 on the used market, and supporting a lot of very modern-feeling things like DDR4 RAM and NVMe storage, could this 9 year old CPU actually still be worth using as your daily driver?
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00:00 i7-5960X vs. 2022
01:00 Background: History of the i7-5960X
03:06 Test System: i7-5960X, 32GB DDR4-3200, RTX 3070
03:26 Gaming Benchmarks
03:29 Benchmarks: Valorant
04:10 Benchmarks: Battlefield V
04:53 Benchmarks: Fortnite
05:33 Benchmarks: Microsoft Flight Simulator
06:27 Benchmarks: Spider-Man Remastered
07:14 Benchmarks: Cyberpunk 2077
08:05 Benchmarks: Red Dead Redemption 2
08:45 Benchmarks: Elden Ring
09:29 Benchmarks: Civilization VI
09:48 Synthetic Benchmarks: CPU-Z, Cinebench R23, Time Spy & Firestrike
10:05 Is the i7-5960X still worth it?
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Some additional info: I’ve acquired a power meter to monitor total system draw, here’s what I’ve seen so far:
Idle ~120w
Cinebench R23 ~ 360w
Gaming ~ 430w
Well, that`s pretty much why I moved from the 5930K to Ryzen 7.
The difference in efficiency is crazy.
From ~110 W in idle I`m down to ~45-50 W.
The i7 5960X isn't much of an upgrade from an i7 5930K. More cores versus more speed
Uhh Ryzen doesn't have low power states. Unless you disabled P-states in your bios, the 5930k will idle more efficiently than a ryzen 7 or the same. @@basilvirgo
My 5800X3D system will idle between 70-85w with undervolt @@basilvirgo
@@Hairybarryy:/ A Ryzen 7 5700X barely gets to 88W while pegged at 100% in cinebench, it won't ever reach 120W, not in idle, not in gaming, NEVER
5960x was an absolute beast. Still got mine. One of the best CPUs of all time I'd say. Up there with the 2500k/2600k.
I love the 2nd gen I'm still using the i5 2400 in 2023 paired with a gtx780/(r9 280 for dx12 games)
@@gtxkillers8347 what kind of games do you play?
@@gtxkillers8347 wow you are hero ! i play on a 5930k and a rtx 3080
@@asOCiATE53 you should upgrade to 5960x 💪 they are super cheap at cex
@@LawrenceTimme i have a good one ,4,5 GHz at 1224v dark rock pro 3 fans i don't run over 70c at monster hunter worlds ultra at 1440 p
Not a bad showing from a 9 year old chip! Great content as always mate!
Well, the folks who spent the big money at the time would still have a monster of a CPU. But the people who where likely to spend that kind of money at a CPU would most likely upgrade way more often thant once a decade.
But if you can pick up a CPU/MB combo at a decent price, you would get a banger.
I5-2500K, I3-2100: LOL
Iceberg made videos about them
Too bad it was fucking $1060 on release
old i7’s don’t die
That memory bandwidth is what is really carrying haswell E
Just upgraded from. 6950x to amd zen 4 ... Only because it was holding back my 4090 a bit... But it's still one hell of a chip and the 5960x is also amazing... Considering when I built the system with a 5820k it served me quite well and now a family member has it since he's starting in PC gaming ... X99 is a legend 🔥
I don’t know if you can tell, but I was (& still am) a bit ill when I recorded this one, which is why the VO occasionally sounds like someone talking with their fingers over their nostrils 😓
Really can’t tell with headphones. Now stop being ill :)
Cannot tell, be well.
Try using HWInfo for power and clock monitoring
you should try the older zeons/threadrippers
Says a lot for how far ahead per core intel IPC was.....No wonder Intel got complacent .
Dude, Just helped a friend to build a PC with 5960X recently... Got it cheap from a Clerk saying they are closing the place down... Took me an hour to do multi mismatch of GPUs with "Bottleneck Calculator" & finally the most suitable matched pops up... 2070 Super MSI Gaming X! Got it for $165 *RM720* Which is a bargain in Malaysia since some people still believed they can sell higher than that... 8*8 2133Mhz DDR4 16GB of RAM & 700Watts Cooler Master PSU... 1T SanDisk SATA SSD storage & a decent generic looking case which I must say not bad... All came as bundle except the GPU which was bought separately & the case fans too which are 4xSilent Wings btw... All & all, machine works great!! He loves it & I am glad & proud that it went well... XD Hahahaha, The reason why I clicked this video too... Cheers!! 🍻🍻🍻🍻
Nice to see a video like this. The X99 platform was so underrated for the longest time. I've still kept my board and 5960X in a secondary PC despite having upgraded in 2021. And yes I can confirm your power usage readings were incorrect (it seems to happen on certain boards?), as mine under 1.26v would use around 30W idle and 50-160W in games depending on how CPU intensive they are (and like 200W in cinebench). Also worth noting, overclocking the cache/ring/uncore can give a massive boost to gaming (especially lows), though it does require the better overclocking oriented motherboards, some which have an "OC socket" (not sure if this really is the main reason or if it's a marketing meme). 3200 is also a solid ram frequency to hit here, as the memory controller binning can be harsh, some 5820K's with basic motherboards barely do 2400-2666. Finally, if you have tuned ram timings along with the overclocked cores + cache, that's when this CPU truly shines in gaming. I was blown away by how close I got it to a 9900K, not to mention beating every Ryzen 3000 series (in gaming, not cinebench). A fun fact, it has more cache per core than every Skylake variant (6th - 10th gen), so my guess is that contributes a lot to how it's able to keep up so well despite not achieving the as high clock speeds. I also had a 4790K to compare with (for a while before that Z97 motherboard died), it absolutely obliterated it in RDR2, achieving nearly double the FPS. It's especially funny as in 2014 nearly everyone was laughing at the "future proofing" argument of 8 cores and DDR4 vs 4 cores and DDR3. I often see the i5-2500K and i7-2600K hailed as THE oldschool / long lasting intel CPUs for their time, but to me the 5960X is more impressive in the long term.
The oc socket has extra pins with voltages for cache ratio which makes a decent difference if you overclock that too
True, reading and watching launch reviews of these old HEDT chips is embarrassing, funny and sad how incompetent they, and reviewers themselves were. Gpu bottlenecks everywhere, terrible testing methodology, often showing only AVG FPS, No overlocks, very limited game selection or just no games. No one knew the effect of cpu cache, memory bandwidth, memory ranking, memory bandwidth, channel number effect on games. Everyone just shrugged it off as "workstation cpu" yet almost none really knew how much potential those HEDT chips had. I mean sure it made more sense for majority of normies to go for 4790k instead of HEDT variants mostly due to pricing, but little did they know what those chips were truly capable of. These days people have no issues dropping $1200+ for cpu/mobo/ram for cut down mainstream parts yet back at the time spending $1500 or so was a no no, because muh value
@@h1tzzYT they were incompetent because they couldn't predict the future? 🙄
@@LawrenceTimme That doesnt make sense, knowing proper testing methodology is not future prediction, even that era correct games would show massive advantage of 5960x over 4790k if it were tested properly.
@@h1tzzYT complete rubbish. At that point in time amd were dead and possibly never coming back. We could have been on quad core cpus forever. No games benefited from anything more than i5 back then. Only newer games since ryzen completely turned the market upside down have supported 8 cores or more.
It was also a brand new incredibly unstable platform with new ddr4 memeory which was extremely expensive. The first cpus didn't oc well at all and needed custom water to run well. Most people back then would have used hyper 212 evo or h100 240 aio at most. They didn't have 360 aios and they weren't as good as they are today.
You are completely missing the context of the time with no experience of the platform before it has matured. It didn't make any sense when it came out at all for gaming. Even considering future releases.
It only became a mildly viable option 2 generations later when the platform had matured and the 6700k came out. Then the 5820k was a decent option, ddr4 had come down in price.
Served me for 8 years before it finally gave up it's life after 24/7 uptime at 4.5GHz overclock - and only because I haven't noticed AIO cooler has died... judging by the symptoms the memory controller got damaged. I replaced it with $20 six core Xeon E5-1620v3 for the time being to get me by until I can finalize complete system upgrade - my desired AM5 motherboard (Asus ProArt X670E - supposed to be restocked in 21st December, now moved to 31st January...) is gonna finally gonna be restocked soon and I'm moving onto Ryzen 7700X that I've snatched on Black Friday sales. If it didn't die on me, I would probably still get couple more years out of it, perhaps just in time for ZEN4 refresh. This CPU deserves place in Hall of Fame right next to 1080Ti. It might've seemed outrageously overpriced but it has stood the test of time like an absolute monster it was.
If you want t use them to their full potential, make sure to use UBU to update the microcodes in the BIOS or use a Windows ISO that has all security updates (like Spectre and Meltdown) disabled. It really makes a very noticeable difference for these old CPUs. I personally prefer ReviOS for Haswell systems.
Revios became a scam, easier to just use Inspectre to disable security patches.
@@Jmeshok how is it a scam?
@@Jmeshok What about it is a scam? As far as I can tell it's still free
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stellar work; just sold a system with a 5930K OC'd to 4.4GHz core and 4GHz cache. Kept up perfectly with GTX 1080 in a budget gaming / streaming rig. Haswell is holding up.
I have a ((3fans) darkrockpro 3 )5930K @4,5Ghz/1,242v/ RAM 24GB 2666mhz trippel channal 5 ram slots are dead .With a RTX 3080@0.8mv undervolted (i play at 2560 x1440 / and cs go at 4:3/1280x960@165hz.
For Diablo 4 i will upgrade for the frams if i need too ! ( 13600K) on darkrockpro 4 (3fans)
could've done a 2080!
absolutely love to see these type of reviews of older hardware
Keep in mind that the 5600X in the testing is at stock speeds, whilst the 5960X is quite a bit overclocked (source : i got similar R23 scores with mine at stock, litterally within 30 points)
Keep in my the i7 is years older
@@wasd-moves-me duh
You'd have to be a Muppet to leave 5960x at stock. It's got near 50% oc on the top, 5600x can barely gain 10%
@@wasd-moves-me I reckon AMD fanbois vs intel Fanbois here too. Can you guys quit it already? Both AMD and intel are great companies. Competition is what makes them better. For example, when intel had the successful Sandy Bridge release they stomped on AMD, so they were in the lead, but because there wad nothing to compete against they thought: Why use more than 4 cores? Why should we innovate? When AMD lagged behind. Then the same happened to AMD when they launched Zen3 in 2019 and crushed Intel. Zen3 was cheap and was not power-hungry, but the newer models that came after Zen3 were not. I think you should get it by now. Nothing is perfect, do not be a fanboi!
@@LawrenceTimme my other reply replies to you too Lawrence
Your videos gives me some kind of nostalgia with all of this older hardware
Also, good shout outs to Jeff (Craft Computing) and Miyconst. We love to see that.
It's true that older CPUs do use about the same power as the newer ones, but the efficiency gains of the newer manufacturing techniques are overrun with the power usage of the larger caches. That's why Intel's "E" cores are more efficient, they have less cache per core. In Raptor Lake, P cores have a 2MB L2 cache local to each core, and the E cores have a 4MB shared cache between a set of 4 cores. This alone substantially reduces the power usage, and restricts the clock speed to sync the cores to the shared cache, further reducing the power usage. The actual circuitry of the execution pipelines isn't that different between them. The smaller caches of the Haswell-E make it use less power than the newer CPUs overall.
I know from experience that the Ryzen 5800X3D is a bear to cool because of that huge 96MB L3 cache. Even with a custom loop, D5 pump, and EK Velocity CPU block, I'm hitting the 90C limit quite often. I also know from experience the Haswell-E chips were indeed much easier to cool than today's chips.
Do the Intel i7 6950x please
Still got mine, still love it
Love the content! Back in 2020 I was REALLY recommending X99 on my Channel, as with the possibility to get an E5 1680 V3 too, in my opinion the upgradability was great. Nice to see it confirmed!
I love this channel! Finding one of your videos on my feed is an instant click!
Love the New York flight sim diving down into Spiderman. I know you loved putting that effect together and was much appreciated :)
Such an underrated channel! Keep up the good work, great video!
I had this one!! What a great CPU... 8 cores when almost everyone still had 4. I loved it. But i fried it... it was running on 4,6GHz with relatively high temperatures for a long time.. and then one day 2 of the cores died. It was bootable when deactiving those 2 specific cores.. but yeah.. more like a 6 core CPU then.
I'm still a bit sad about that. Great CPU back then.
I LOVE this platform. It still holds its ground even today.
I used a 5820K for many years overclocked to 4.7GHz and only just now retired it in my little brother's machine for an i7 8700K. Haswell-E is beautiful.
Wow! I definitely was not expecting such a good showing from that chip. Good stuff!
Iceberg I'm not sure if you're going to see this but I found you a few weeks ago and I'm blown away with the quality of your content. Truly an underrated channel keep it up.
Very surprising how well older lntel CPUs hold up. Considering with a bit of overclocking you can get 2000-5000 series Intel chips to rival Ryzen series chips is shocking and could save big money if someone were to go used. Keep it up!
It's not really that surprising. When Ryzen hit the scene, they were not really a comparison for intel chips. They just had everyone memerized by the fact that they provided more cores for less money. However, their products were never really on par with Intel...this just proves it.
Fantastic video mate! X99 is where my original Test Bench started. Get well soon :)
I've got a 5600X with a 2070 Super in my rig. It's kinda insane seeing the performance from a chip thats 8 years old. The 1440p benchmarks are wild lol
Wow. Imagine owning that chip in 2014. What a beast! Also says wonders about my current CPU, the R5 5600X. Similar performance with 2 fewer cores and less than half of the power.
yeah but 6years later !!those i7 were a head of their time,they still good,only i5 with 4 cores,are good for youtube or old games,i upgrade old plateform from i5 4570 to e3 1246 v3(4770k) huge improuvement in gaming,i5 always a 100% during gaming with lot of dips
i owned it in 2015 along side an r9 fury x and nothing could stop me
Great content!!! I think your channel deserves more attention dude 👏👏
My high end computer I built back in 2015 still has a i7-6950X! I hope you plan on reviewing my cpu.
I ran the 5960x with a evga classified x99 board, it was beast, was able to get to 4.6ghz on it, it beat a lot of the 1st and 2nd gen ryzen as it had more overclocking headroom, It beat my Threadripper 1950x in gaming, thats for sure, but of course it couldnt hold a candle to multithreaded work loads to the newer stuff
honestly one of my favorite channels to watch so far
I just updated from my trusty 5960x to a 13900k this week, now it gets to be a beast of a home server. It's amazing to see how well this still performs almost 10 years later, anyone that says spending a little more to future proof is bad is just wrong.
Love your vids dude thanks to you I got a '"new" gaming PC that can basically play anything for super cheap!
Happy new year!
Another great video! Can’t wait to see what’s next!
Same to you!
Great video as always!
What a nice showing of the 5960x! Can't wait for the day you review the first i9 (7980XE)
X299 is on my shopping list, for sure!
I have my x99 since 2015 and it still rocks :3
In the past with the i7-5820k and now with i7-6950x(4,3Ghz@1,3V).
To the overclock:
4,5 Ghz is very much not prime95 AVX2 stable. Haswell-E has no offeset for AVX like Broadwell-E.
3200-CL16 -> you have to be lucky to get it without ridiculous voltage offset for the memory controller. I needed +0,5 volt for my i7-5820k.
As always good video ^^
4,3ghz with 1,3 is great tbh, mine at that voltage is not stable in aida64
I got my I7 5820k to stable 4,4Ghz and it could run 4,5Ghz under 80°, but my cooler just couldn't keep it cool enough for extended periods of time..
DDR4 3200 was also no problem but sadly the system died after 5 Years of extensive use...
I think the CPU is dead 🥲
I'm running 4.6GHz, but I don't run a lot of synthetic test that break my overclocks. I use a lot more power, however at 1.4V which the B-Die doesn't normally have a problem with.
Stable all day i7 5930K @ 4,5gh at 1242v at a dark rock pro 3 with 3 fans at gamimg around 32C to 68C MAX at monster hunter world a got a good chip i tinke , but i only have 3 ram solots 5 solts are dead and i can t reach more then 2666mhz
Then there was 10th generation 10700 i7 released 6 generations later to the average consumer at less than half the TDP. Dell madetoo many Dell vostro and inspirons 5880’s. I just bought a new vostro 5880 with 10700 , and RTX 2060 for $850 shipped on ebay.
Love your videos. When are we going to see the video on AVX2? Been highly anticipating.
I worked at Micro center when they dropped and was LITERALLY the first one in line to buy it. I had the Titan Xp at that time too
I got my 5960x, x99 mobo, psu, ssd, and case bundled together for cheap on Craigslist. There were some issues getting started, always a risk with used parts, mine had bent pins. But for the price I paid everything worked out in the end and I'm really happy with the performance
I still use my 1x 5960x, 2x 4790k, 1x 4770k, 1x4790... my newest cpu is my arcade cabinet with a 6700. Might say I've been obsessed with 4th gen...
I was waiting for a 5960x review for months!
Thats awesome. Anything 22nm today in 2022 works great!
I got into X99 back in 2020 from an Alienware Area 51 R2 w/ a 5820k and it’s the CPU that got me into overclocking, and I would eventually for an experiment get a X99 system w/ a 5960X last year to put 2 2080tis in SLI. These things need to be overclocked since they have so much headroom and their stock clock speed isn’t that great compared to how much they can hit. Unfortunately nowadays they don’t make great budget builds because how expensive the motherboards are, unless if you manage to get a full PC 2nd hand
Same here. I've had my R2 with a 5960X since 2016, but I only recently decided to dabble with OCing it since the stock 120mm CLC died last year. Ended up shoehorning a 360mm rad into it and it's been running really nice on the factory 3.8 GHz preset, which isn't really saying much but I was never able to get it to hold any clocks beyond that. I'd suspect that has a fair bit to do with Dell's factory mobo and BIOS being... a little less than compliant. All things considered though, it's been more than adequate paired with a 2080 Ti for the past few years.
Better than I expected!
I built my daughter 6 months ago a gaming PC. Chinese x79 motherboard, rx 580 8 gb, Xeon 12 core 24 threads CPU, 16 gigs ram, and 1 tb ssd. Cost about $700, bite in myself in butt because that RX 580 is literally half price now lol.
Ps it has handled everything flawlessly at 1080p Max settings on every game she plays even though she doesn't play the most demanding. I think this system Will be able to handle 1080 gaming for quite a long time.
Great video and yea motherboard cost and availability can sometimes be the deciding factor
I use it's cousin the E5 1660v3 with a 1660 ti and it works well. Mine is paired with 16GB of DDR4 2666. The more unique aspect of my build is it's running on the Asrock x99 itx. Due to it's small size I believe I am running 3.7Ghz all core, but I could probably hit 4Ghz if I wanted to roll up my sleeves.
This video is gonna blow for sure
I am still running the Core i7-5930K, with a GTX 1080 Ti, best investiment ever.
I've had one of these procs since 2014. Fast forward to 2023 and I am STILL using it. Mine is coupled with an RTX2060 6GB. I'm playing any game in my Steam/Origin library on high/ultra and getting incredible results. Over the years I've updated video but since I'm rocking custom DangerDen water cooling I've managed 4GHz overclock without any major overvolts or heat risks. Mine never goes over 57C at 4 GHz. I bet I have plenty of room to OC but see no need to stress the parts until I need more processing power. I don't plan on upgrading until I dip below 60FPS at 1080P. Glad to see others agree with my anecdotal experience
I used my rig with a 1070 and 5960x until 2020, still a monster cpu, gave it to my dad and he uses it for work now. Can gladly say he no longer calls to ask me about issues with his rig 😂. Asus X99-A might be the best motherboard I’ve ever used/ worked with. Had m.2 support and nvme years before it was popular. I remember I bought my 256gb drive for like $150 and had to do a bios update just to support nvme technology.
I upgraded to a 2080s and a 5800x3d now for gaming and I can pull some serious fps with that new v-cache set up
@@fohseytv Nice! Loving my 5800X3D too. Looking for a GPU though and unsure what to buy, thinking secondhand 3080 for $650 ish. New cards are all a scam. On an RX580 now, which is basically a 1060, and it's just not good enough. How's the 2080 super holding up in games like RDR2 maxed out?
@@ayyorta 1440p 90+ fps, 4K lower settings you can squeeze 70+
Asus X99-E WS/USB3.1 is IMHO best motherboard ever conceived. I really wish Asus remade it for more up to date platform.
@@fohseytv ooh man, if I can find one cheap I'll 100% consider getting a 2080/s until something new (and affordable) comes out
X99 is definitely still a great platform if you can get it for a decent price. I used it for a good while, but eventually found it limiting when editing videos in Adobe. So I went to X299 and got myself an I9 7940X for $200 and an ASUS ROG Strix X299E board for around $146. I think sometime in the future you should do some videos on that platform, as it also was Intel’s last HEDT platform that they released.
Crazy to see how ok it still is considering I had one 4 upgrades back.
Went 5960X->6950x->7980x->10980x and now on a AMD 7950X
I bought a morherboard/cpu combo for a friend that had a gigabyte x99 ud4 and i7 6800k. Even though the 6800k is technically the faster cpu, I sold it and replaced it with a 5960x since going forward those extra cores are quickly going to become the new normal. It’s nice knowing I was able to build him such a budget yet simultaneously high end machine that should last many years assuming the board itself doesn’t die from age.
i have it since 2016 with rampage V ,64 Gram , RTX asus 3090, and Monitor PG35vq... work perfect !
Damn I enjoy your videos, your style, humour and knowledge is top notch! You are absolutely right; the X99 platform is amazingly viable today. Keep up the good work.
I can't believe how these old processors are so efficient and still usable today.;-)
Thanks!
YES! I was hoping youd do a review on how my CPU in the CRT rig! Most people dont believe me when I say it outdoes 3rd gen Ryzen in games.
Quad channel memory and good cache amount keep these in the running. Plus use the tool inspectre to disable the nerf patches/updates, it goes a long way. Even at 4Ghz it does good.
Kind of crazy that a $1k CPU from 10 years ago is now comparable to $200 mid range CPUs from today. From the looks of it, game devs are still trying to code and optimize around 8 threads, so 8 cores will be the way to go for another 10 years at least.
This cpu was a beast and nowadays still a beast, thanks for the video.
It's crazy to think at the end of this console generation this cpu will probably still work fine and it'll be around 15 years, gaming isn't yet taking advantage of new technologies.
With 8 cores and quad channel ddr4 support this could be a potentially great budget setup for a workstation. Especially when thread count matter more than frequency and/or GPU heavy workloads
Those AMD CPUs did indeed have 8 cores, but it was just more convenient and cheaper to settle out of court because people didn't understand that the architecture was bad not because of a lack of cores but for other reasons so they assumed it was the core count being less than what was stated and also not understanding that FPUs don't dictate how many cores a CPU has
Love to see a 6950x. As always great video😊👍
I loved my 5820k, and only just recently upgraded to a 7950X from AMD when they launched. Now its ''retired'' and being used a a home server/nas/plex server.
9 YEARD OLD! What a beast!
Gotta love the Dance with the Dead background music. My 3700X pays respects to its great grandpop and I pay mine to Iceberg. Thanks for the video 🙏
I love your channel talk about all retro CPU. can you do benchmark on 3D software(Blender, Zbrush, etc2) as well?
Example, high polygon on viewport playback , sometimes heavily use single core cpu. some multicore. things like that. But i might requesting too much.
Impressive, makes me wonder how long will I be able to keep my 5600. 9 Years is a lot of longevity for the money
Great Video as always! Have you ever thought about doing an X58 Revisit?
Cool video. I have as my main workstation a Dell Precision T5810. And the two old Ivey Bridge Xeons still work great even though they can't be overclocked. But at 3 GHz the system is still way more responsive than my other machine with a much newer 8th gen i5 8400 at 4GHz.
The T5810 has 64GBs per CPU and the i5 8400 has 32GBs of DDR4.
I honestly thought I might get a better performance uplift with the newer architect and RAM types.
You should definitely invest in elmor's PMD. You can connect it in line between PSU and motherboard/GPUs. You can measure power entering CPU VRM and GPU VRM. This makes power usage tests quite reliable even on systems where software readout doesn't exist, or isn't trustable.
I want to replace my X99-system (using also a 5960X) since years. Just because I want something new after all these years, but as somebody who is just gaming with his pc, there's no reason.
Mine works at 4.5 GHz on the cores (1.2VCore), 4.2 GHz Cache and 3200MHz Memory. At this values this CPU is just a beast an even the power consumption is not this far away from modern CPUs to justify a new purchase. After AM5 release I tested/compared my CPU intensively again, but also here the performance gap (in gaming) is just not big enough.
This is partially why I still recommend Chinese X99 with a cheap E5 2666 v3 or 2680 v3 for parts of the world that don't have cheap B450 and R5 3600 available to them. With memory timings tuned, these will beat out the R5 3600 and i5 10400 in most games. Quad channel memory really helps too. No upgrade path and power consumption make it bad value in Europe for the most part - but many people don't have the luxury of a flourishing, cheap second hand market.
I believe in keeping computers for at least five years, so I think upgrade path argument becomes irrelevant at that point anyway. You are correct though...only real downside compared to modern platforms is the power consumption. Here in the US, it's not a huge deal, but can be in other countries.
It's great if you already own X99 board (those are expensive, especially if you want more modern features like USB3.1) and someone else is paying your electricity bills. For gaming on a budget one can grab 12100 for the same price and get similar performance - except it will draw 40W instead of 200W and won't require decent cooling and airflow in the case.
@@Micromation Chinese X99 aren't cheap per se, but 80€ for a board when most secondhand Z97 and similar aren't really cheaper? Can't complain
@@Micromation Why are replying to every comment saying that it sucks a constant 200w? That's not true at all except for the most demanding workloads
@@kenobi639 I'm not saying it sucks 200W constantly, I say it's TDP envelope increases to 200W (compared to stock 140W). It's enough to heat up a room in the winter when gaming. ZEN4 CPUs have 145W TDP but you can get most of performance at around 90W mark.
Awesome chip, I still use it. Thinking about upgrading to x299 platform and get a 10 or 12 core
Would be nice to see a comparison of this to an e5-1680v2 which also 8 core and has an unlocked multiplier so you can overclock it. It is one generation behind being based on ivy bridge.
Been using a pair of Haswell-E cpus on a chinese dual socket x99 board for about 2 years now. Was the cheapest upgrade at the time due to the crazy prices of everything. They've worked just fine for me, as more of a workstation than a gaming box. Now waiting for a pair of broadwell-E cpus to turn up as they've got frighteningly cheap and hopefully I don't need to track down a bios upgrade as I can't even remember which of the no-name boards it was
Still using it as my main PC for everything. Mostly because I am now poor and can't afford to buy a new mouse, let alone a new PC, but also because it is still relatively good. I don't overclock or use watercooling.
I got a 5820K in December 2015, but sold the system in 2019. I could only get it up to 4.2GHz, and it seemed to be on par with a 2600x. It started to show age towards the end as games got more optimized for core counts. I sold it to move with the plan being to get a threadrippe after settling in, but that never happened, and I ended up using ay dual X5650 then dual X5672 system until the other day, where I finally got a 7950x. Those three years on the Xeons really made me miss X99 haha.
Yeah, there was considerable difference between 5820K and 5960X - I run on 5820K Xeon equivalent now (E5 1620v3) and drop in performance is substantial. X99 was the dream platform. I also planned upgrading to Threadripper but with AMD essentially going full retard with prices ($1000 for a half decent motherboard, $1500 for the cheapest CPU) I opted for AM5 now instead... but I don't have much use for all them cores so instead of 7950X, I went 7700X and gabbed better motherboard :)
currently running a 24 threads xeon 2650v4, a huge performance uplift compared to my old i7 2600 despite the low frequencies.
Haswell-e still packs a punch.
Do you recommend the Xeon e5-2699 V3?
@@alphaarchive5262 I have a Core i7-12700K that i bought for 330 bucks a few months ago 🙄
@@alphaarchive5262 depends on what you're planning to do with it, if you stick to gaming then you'd be better off with a 2667 v4 or a 2666 v3 thanks to the higher clocks
@@saricubra2867 ?
@@boyorougesauvage8584 So, it's rather a better choice to go for a processor with a higher single core performance for gaming, and the ones with higher muti core power are better for edition, productivity, etc?
I love X99 i7's. I setup a spare gaming PC for friends to use with a Broadwell-E i7 6850K, 32GB 2400 DDR4 and a 1660 Super. I have the 6850K OC'ed to a very stable 4.6GHz.
Wow nice, couldn’t get my 6800K past 4.3 🙁
@@IcebergTech Yeah, the Haswell-E chips tend to OC a bit better. I think I simply hit the silicon lottery with my 6850K.
@@JeffWaynee Yo aún lo uso y va genial, saludos
Have E5 2699v3 (2696v3 variant) after turbot boost bios mod all core boost up to 3.8ghz, however when 18 cores are used usually frequency stays at 3.3ghz if i lock cpu cores to 10 then its 3.8ghz locked and with that massive 45mb of cache, for example in wz2 with RTX 3080 its performing similarly to my previous 5800x cpu
I had the 5820k, was a great cpu and good for overclocking. The problem with the arguement you don't need that many cores was that, sure maybe the game itself didn't use that many cores, but you still need to remember the OS and background tasks running.
Also if your wireless xbox controllers are adding latency you need to stop using bluetooth and get a xbox wireless adapter.
YES! I want to get 5960X from like 2y from now and was just wondering how much improvement I'll get oiver my i7-4770 based just on cores, but couldn't find any comparision. Thannk yoU!
If I have to be honest, you probably would be better off getting something more modern - as much as 5960X can pull it's weight, after overclock to 4.5GHz it reaches 200W TDP just to match modern 65W CPU. 5960X can literally warm your computer room in the winter. If you're gonna need to spend $100 for 2nd hand used CPU, at least $150+ for the barebone low end X99 motherboard and grabbing DDR4 RAM, you might very well spend same money and get something much more modern. If you're thinking strictly gaming, a cheap $100 12th gen i3 (12100) actually matches the 5600X in gaming while drawing half the power. Don't get me wrong, 5960X is amazing, if you already have some pieces of the puzzle but it's not exactly the most economical thing to run and that cost will quickly add-up. It's great CPU for workstation but for that you're probably better off running 10 core Xeon in the same socket instead.
I had a 6950X with a 1080ti before I downsized. Monstrously powerful chip for the time!
still got one of those in my guest pc. works like a charm.......except for the memory :-)
even today this cpu is such a beast
That thing is stil a beast of a cpu i didnt knew this cpu was this fast.
Buy yourself some "smart plug" adapter with power measurment function. They are not that expensive nowadays and on some platforms the results of real power consumption is interesting. Also you can compare PSUs efficiency or what is a real consumption when PC is idling. Many people complained about ryzen high power consumption when idle and mine is consuming 50-55W when doing nothing and only 70-80 when watching YT video. It is paired with GTX1080, 3 2,4inch ssds and 2 NVME drives. On top of that there are also 5 additional case fans so i guess that this is a pretty good result.
About the CPU - I have found only one used 5960X on polish second hand offerings site so it is a rare chip here. Still it is interesting that back then Intel was able to make such a chip.
i use the same platform, but with a xeon e5 2680v3 with all core turbo. i know it is different from this, but my goal was more of a multi tasking system than gaming.
still, it holds on very good, especially if i factor in tha gpu i use (tesla m40, basically a datacenter version of the maxwell titan x)
cyberbug ran stable 60 fps (gpu limited) with 50-65% cpu, so i could do rendering/video editing at the same time.
the only games it has problems are the badly optimised ones, but in that case all other platforms i could buy for this money would struggle too.
i am also thinking about later replacing it with a cpu that has more cores, and higher turbo, but for now it is more than enough
(or maybe a 6950x)
I actually just set up an i7 5820k PC yesterday for my self. I upgraded from the i7 3930k ....... Good lord it's fast.
An honestly impressive chip. If you'd pair this with an RTX 3060 or RX 6600, either overclocked or not, it should be doing more than well enough. Crazy how older architecture like this can still keep up.
I have this paired with the RX 6600 at 4.6Ghz and it runs like a dream @ 1440P. There is really no need for this expensive new stuff if you just know how to overclock the older stuff. A lot of it has headroom built in.
the HEDT platform needs to come back, still got my 5820K and 5930K and they are nuts
My 5930K reports kind of the same power usage, mobo is Gigabyte X99-UD4.
In terms of voltage 1.4 is way too much, i use my 5930K at 4.5 ghz with 1.3 and temps peak on some cores at 82c with a 240 aio
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Your review is awesome!! Thank you!!… I was lucky enough and I got me a combo of an i7 5820k and an Asus x99-a here at MX for around $50 US. The CPU is very warm in my case and I can't go above 1.3v in prime95 small fft without reaching 90°. That limits my overclock to 4.2 ghz (240mm AIO). Now after watching this I want to get me a 5960x but IDK if it's worth it??. My plan is sell my Ryzen 7 5700x platform, get some money back and get one of these "caviar" x99 cpus, I don't demand to much in games (casual gamer) and for productivity I'm a dev and we don't really need that much power either.
I have the same platform as my main rig (x99) motherboard has an obscure issue and currently down, its hard to find a replacement motherboard in my country. when it works it really nice, when it doesn't it makes me want to replace the whole platform due to availability and absurd pricing of the motherboards