Cool, Cheyne was my favourite surfer. This comp was the only time I've been to Bells. Went on a road trip with my cool parents, (RIP Mum ) in the caravan. Scored great waves all the way down from Queensland. In Vic I remember thawing out with the 5 cent hot showers in Torquay caravan Park and the public shower was 20 cents I think. The day after this final was pumping at Bells, got a coupla good ones along with a solid thrashing. Great memories, cheers.
The winged fin is supposed to create lift, I get it, but those boards still suffer from what all single fins do. I remember, I had one for a while. I think Cheyne won in SPITE of the winged fin, he was that good. Would have done better on a thruster. I know why he went in that direction because I am age- contemporary with him, and I remember it well. But I thought then and do now, that he was off track. Some things work better than others. If you want to have a different surfing experience by using different boards, then do so, I certainly do. But I wouldn't do it if I was focussing on being world champ. I would use what works best in a competition, which is the thruster.
@@BarbarraBay I dont believe his tiny winged fin would allow the board to foil above the surface, and I cant see it, but no point arguing about that.Scream in blue is about his competetive decline, and its surely no coincidence that his insistance on riding questionable boards is the reason. youll notice that modern foil boards that ride above the surface arent really capable of sharp, critical turns. thats what extra fins on a thruster do. His boards were still single fins at the end of the day, which are inferior to thrusters in competitve surfing, for better or worse. I dont ride a thruster anymore and I dont care about comps, so im not a thruster fanboy. I suppose the takeaway of it is that he was using a maverick design design that didnt pan out for him, and you dont see many standard winged fins on standard boards. yes you can get them, but they wont make your surfing better, just different. My take on the old winged keel, and I had one, is that at certain attitudes/angles in your turns, the wings are going to be facing downwards against the flow like the elevators on a plane, making not lift but drag. That is exactly what I experienced with a winged keel, even though the board is designed for it. A yacht (Australia II) is a different kettle of fish altogether, and not really comparable to a surfboard IMO.
I actually surfed a winged keel zap a couple of times back in the day… it had its moments but in all it was stiff, jerky, and hard to manage… I’d take an MR twin over it all day long!!!
pretty certain instead of being runner up 4 times he wouldve won world titles if he didnt experiment so much with board design but if it wasnt for surfers like him .............i still remember watching a really old dit of him trying to ride a 5 10 or even smaller in double overhead surf in hawaii , crazy shit - land of rising sun or something was i'tst name
Very controversial at the time mum and dad were at logger heads over the dining room table l was 12 yrs old. There were rumours of Shane being deported to Tasmania 😮 the winged fin!!!!! Still discused 🧐🤔 at the local pub to this Day 🤬💥🤨💥🤬💥👀🧐💥🥺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
I need to ask u one more question and this requires your good memory do u remember how many surf contests were on that tape and which contest they were please cheers
I wish I could, but I no longer have the tape. I transferred this one part of the video about 5 years ago, and threw away all my vhs tapes. Sorry, wish I could’ve helped.
@@richardpartington8057 that tape was thrown away two house moves ago. Bummer that it was rare, but that won’t change the fact it was thrown away. Sorry I can’t help you.
@@chrisgoione9992 I need to ask u one more question and this requires your good memory do u remember how many surf contests were on that tape and which contest they were please cheers
I miss these times man ..... thanks so much for uploading this
Cool, Cheyne was my favourite surfer.
This comp was the only time I've been to Bells. Went on a road trip with my cool parents, (RIP Mum ) in the caravan.
Scored great waves all the way down from Queensland. In Vic I remember thawing out with the 5 cent hot showers in Torquay caravan Park and the public shower was 20 cents I think.
The day after this final was pumping at Bells, got a coupla good ones along with a solid thrashing.
Great memories, cheers.
I like this classic style.
Make me calm!
The winged fin is supposed to create lift, I get it, but those boards still suffer from what all single fins do. I remember, I had one for a while. I think Cheyne won in SPITE of the winged fin, he was that good. Would have done better on a thruster. I know why he went in that direction because I am age- contemporary with him, and I remember it well. But I thought then and do now, that he was off track.
Some things work better than others. If you want to have a different surfing experience by using different boards, then do so, I certainly do. But I wouldn't do it if I was focussing on being world champ. I would use what works best in a competition, which is the thruster.
@@BarbarraBay I dont believe his tiny winged fin would allow the board to foil above the surface, and I cant see it, but no point arguing about that.Scream in blue is about his competetive decline, and its surely no coincidence that his insistance on riding questionable boards is the reason. youll notice that modern foil boards that ride above the surface arent really capable of sharp, critical turns. thats what extra fins on a thruster do. His boards were still single fins at the end of the day, which are inferior to thrusters in competitve surfing, for better or worse. I dont ride a thruster anymore and I dont care about comps, so im not a thruster fanboy.
I suppose the takeaway of it is that he was using a maverick design design that didnt pan out for him, and you dont see many standard winged fins on standard boards. yes you can get them, but they wont make your surfing better, just different.
My take on the old winged keel, and I had one, is that at certain attitudes/angles in your turns, the wings are going to be facing downwards against the flow like the elevators on a plane, making not lift but drag. That is exactly what I experienced with a winged keel, even though the board is designed for it.
A yacht (Australia II) is a different kettle of fish altogether, and not really comparable to a surfboard IMO.
I agree, in real life that board actually looked stiff to me.
Yeah, he would have killed it on a thruster but I guess thatscwhat he liked.
Thanks for the mamories, as we like to say!
Thank you so much for sharing!!! I used to have a lot of these videos from the 80's on VHS tapes but unfortunately they are all gone!!!
So complete ,smooth , connected and progressive . A great Aloha representative for Australia . Good tube rider
I actually surfed a winged keel zap a couple of times back in the day… it had its moments but in all it was stiff, jerky, and hard to manage… I’d take an MR twin over it all day long!!!
Great style Mr Horan! Smoothness!!
wow this is sum great history, great post! legend event with legend surfers and sum legend pay cheques!
Great surfer.
Cheyne was tearing it up on that board. Glad he won. He was clearly the better surfer on the day.
pretty certain instead of being runner up 4 times he wouldve won world titles if he didnt experiment so much with board design but if it wasnt for surfers like him .............i still remember watching a really old dit of him trying to ride a 5 10 or even smaller in double overhead surf in hawaii , crazy shit - land of rising sun or something was i'tst name
yes totally agree. 6'2 rounded square 3 fins,the zenith design
Without cheyne h,mr,etc experimenting,design may have been ?....?✌️
Very controversial at the time mum and dad were at logger heads over the dining room table l was 12 yrs old. There were rumours of Shane being deported to Tasmania 😮 the winged fin!!!!! Still discused 🧐🤔 at the local pub to this Day 🤬💥🤨💥🤬💥👀🧐💥🥺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
This shows had he moved to a Tri, he may have not been runner-up four times!
I need to ask u one more question and this requires your good memory do u remember how many surf contests were on that tape and which contest they were please cheers
Sounds like some good ol soft porn music from the same era..😆
lol
They used to wiggle a lot in those days.
Ripping!… no,… REEEPiiiNNNGGG
Porno music ... footage good though
mate this is the 83 surfing super series can i please get a full copy of it as i have spoken to the owner and he said it was ok cheers
I wish I could, but I no longer have the tape. I transferred this one part of the video about 5 years ago, and threw away all my vhs tapes. Sorry, wish I could’ve helped.
@@chrisgoione9992 believe it or not u threw away an extremly rare vhs tape that ive been looking for 27 years
@@chrisgoione9992 see if u can find the tapes as its really important to try and find it as there are no more copies left
@@richardpartington8057 that tape was thrown away two house moves ago. Bummer that it was rare, but that won’t change the fact it was thrown away. Sorry I can’t help you.
@@chrisgoione9992 I need to ask u one more question and this requires your good memory do u remember how many surf contests were on that tape and which contest they were please cheers