@@weiyishen Look at Acts 2, WHO was at Pentecost? 5 And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, *from every nation under heaven.* The Holy Ghost fell on them! THIS WAS the restoration promised by God! BELIEVING National Israel IS the foundation of God's Church (Ephesians 2) And the Church IS God's ONE AND ONLY "Household" (Ephesians 2, 1 Timothy 3:15) Read Isaiah 49 JESUS IS "The Servant" ISRAEL! HE IS the true Israel and He had TWO MISSIONS: 1. Restore the remnant of JACOB (national/earthly Israel) I HAVE KEPT (preserved) (These are the elect, Romans 11:7) 2. Bring in the Gentiles (Isaiah 9:2) This occurred in Acts 10 when Peter was sent to a Gentile's house with the message of the Gospel. Dispensationaists speak of "Literal" interpretation, but that is an error. The bible teaches EARTHLY/NATURAL fulfillment (in Adam, the earthly man, see 1 Corinthians 15) vs HEAVENLY/SPIRITUAL fulfillment (in Christ, the HEAVENLY man, the TRUE Israel, the one in whom ALL of God's promises, yes ALL of them are "Yes and Amen!" The earthly/natural promises to the earthly/natural Israel WERE fulfilled (Joshua 21:45, Nehemiah 9) (NOTE: ALL of the Land Seed Blessings wer fulfilled according to Nehemiah) But as God warned them, they LOST the inhertiance (Jeremiah 17:4) But these promises were SHADOWS The REALITY is Found in Christ! He will not fail, and all of the "Land, Seed, Blessing" promises are HEAVENLY/SPIRITUAL and yes literal! (See Psalm 37, Hebrews 12:22, Romans 4:13) These promises are not earthly, they are heavenly! We do not look at things which are seen but at things which are NOT seen (2 Corinthians 4:18)
32:02 Thank you so much for having Dr. Keener on and discussing this truth. I’ve been introduced to the subject of replacement theology in the past, but it just wasn’t clear. Dr. Keener’s reference to Romans 11…especially verses 16-18, the answer was right there all the time!! Reading the scriptures as someone mentioned, with presuppositions that have been planted by others has been so difficult to shake off. But thank God in the last four years I have been able to begin reading the Scriptures having been empowered by others to see what IT says; not what I thought it said or what others said. Thank you so much again for this discussion Will!!!
New Covenant Whole Gospel: Can you honestly answer the first three questions below without ridicule or condemnation? Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30, Heb. 13:20. Is there a Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church? Does God want a return to the Old Covenant system during a future time, or is the New Covenant "everlasting"? ) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8, 3:16.) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 12:18-24, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? (See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.) Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and Hebrews 13:20, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period? Based on John 19:37 and Acts chapter 2, was Zechariah 12:10 fulfilled at Calvary and on the Day of Pentecost? What did Paul say about Christ returning "in flaming fire" taking vengeance on those who do not obey the Gospel in 2 Thess. 1:7-10? Based on these passages from the New Testament, is there a Plan B of salvation based on race at the Second Coming of Jesus? If not, start sharing the New Covenant Gospel with all races of people now before it is too late for them. Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel.
Well you started with an assumption that that’s where I would go…and no…I won’t answer your questions…I’m not obligated…and I have neither the time nor the inclination to engage you
@@ks5499 Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24. In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews. Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5. Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11. Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11. Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost. Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24. Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church. I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following. "And then all Israel will be saved..." I have heard another say the following. "And all Israel will be saved..." What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say? Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse. How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future? Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith. Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.
Fulfillment, Remnant, or Supercessationism theology is the term used by its proponents. For about the first 1800 years of Christianity, it was taught that the New Covenant superseded the Old Covenant. It was also taught that Christ, who in the upper room initiated a New Covenant with the remnant, is the fulfillment of the promises made to Israel. God cursed and divorced ethnic Israel for its disobedience. The real "Replacement" theology is Dispensational theology, which replaces Christ with ethnic Israel.
Yes-this is Traditional Catholic Theology-the clear teaching of the NT, the Church Fathers, and the Holy Saints--the Conciiliar post Vatican 2 Church is highly Judaized and the "Christian Zionists" concocted a bogus, anti-Christ false Gospel that is also genocidal.
The following proves you are correct. Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8, 3:16.) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? (See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.) Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? (See also 2 Thess. 1:7-10) If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period? Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel.
@@mlp1211That's a typical response from a dispensationalist... utterly lacking any reference to scripture or thought. The other typical response is yanking one isolated verse out of context. And the worst type of response of all is making a false claim that anyone other that a dispensationalist is not a brother or sister in Christ Jesus. Thank you for at least not doing that.
@@davekpghpa still replacement theology.. American thelogy is destroying the church and polluting the world. A grafted branch does not become the plant its drafted to. Take a trip to a garden or simply look up a video on plant grafting. Its as simple as that
This was unbelievably helpful for me. Thank you! I went to a night of honoring Israel last week and it was a gathering of Christians, Messianic Jews, and non-Messianic Jews. I found myself really wrestling with a lot of stuff that was said there and some of the prayers that were prayed from the Christian leaders and the Jewish leaders. It was a weird feeling and I kinda just left there more confused and disheartened than I went in, but this video really helped clear some of that up. Will is right, all I know is that Jesus came to save lost people so I keep praying for both sides! Thank you for sharing this with us!
When I finally came to read the Bible I tried my best to disabuse myself of presuppositions and I didn't have an inherited theological background. It seemed clear to me that Romans 9-11 was about Israel not being forsaken. I can, however, see how it's missed if one carries certain presuppositions going in.
It is also about the merger of Israel and all gentile converts into one tree that feeds from the same roots (i.e. the O.T. promises to Israel are the roots shared by the church)
I am an American, and I support the right for Israel to exist. I support the right for Palestinians to exist. I support the right of Ukraine to exist i support the right of Russia to exist. We all must be saved by the gospel, no matter our nationality.
I just noticed something, It just occurred to me that your name is Will Hart... The ministry of God's purpose is in your name...The Heart of the Willing...the willing heart !!! Profound and true !!! Thanks for being authentically YOU !!!
Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24. In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews. Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5. Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11. Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11. Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost. Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24. Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church. I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following. "And then all Israel will be saved..." I have heard another say the following. "And all Israel will be saved..." What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say? Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse. How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future? Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith. Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.
amen . also" history & destiny of Israel & the church." & while you have time" Appointment in Jerusalem " is wonderful, Derek Prince was cewrtainly used of God to teach the church , the relavence of Scripture & where we are at... 20 yaers ago... some have taken notice & are praying .
Sons of Abraham? Cultivated Olive Tree? Israel of God? Are Gentile believers members of the commonwealth of Israel? Who was grafted into the cultivated olive tree of Romans 11? Paul wrote that a true Jew is one inwardly with a circumcised heart, and that circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, and not by the letter? Is the inward Jew a member of the cultivated olive tree? In the epistle to the Romans, Paul writes, “Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” Is the Israel that Paul is referring to, the cultivated olive tree? In the epistle to the Ephesians, Paul writes about a mystery-that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus. Is this one body the cultivated olive tree? Jesus said He has two folds and they will become one flock. Is the one flock of Jesus the cultivated olive tree? Hebrews 11:39-40 informs us that the NT and OT saints are made perfect together. Are these perfected, glorfied saints the cultivated olive tree? Hebrews 12:23, in a vision, identifies an assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, coming to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant. Is this assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, the cultivated olive tree? This prophetic vision meets fulfillment in Revelation 14:1-5, in the heavenly Mount Zion; the redeemed from mankind as firstfruits for God and the Lamb. Cultivated olive tree? Revelation 1:6 and 5:10 points to a group of people who Jesus Christ has redeemed by His blood, to be a kingdom and priests. Is this kingdom of priests, freed from sin by the blood of Christ, the cultivated olive tree? Revelation 7:9 prophesies this same group, resurrected and raptured, glorified, and standing before the throne of God and the Lamb, from every nation, tribe, and tongue, wearing white robes and holding palm branches. Cultivated olive tree? Is there a spiritual Israel? What do you call the body of glorified saints who will rule and reign with Christ on earth? Are the glorified saints members of the cultivated olive tree? Is the cultivated olive tree the Israel of God? In Isaiah 49 the Messiah is referred to as Israel. Because Gentile believers are in the Messiah, Jesus, does that include them as members of the cultivated olive tree, the Israel of God? Are the sons of Abraham the Israel of God? Who are the sons of Abraham? The sons of Abraham, counted righteous by faith, comprise the cultivated olive tree; they are Jew, and Gentile-the “Israel of God…” All the saints in salvation history… The firstborn enrolled in heaven… The redeemed from mankind as firstfruits for God and the Lamb… The eternal covenant community of YHWH redeemed by the Lamb… The bride of Christ. The saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever, forever and ever. Biblical ecclesiology leads to Biblical eschatology. Blessings...
Ethnicity means nothing to God if your heart is wrong. Every man will be judged for his behaviour not his father s behaviour. Anyone who believes in the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob(Israel) is part of the faith of Israel it’s that simple.👍
If God gave up on HIS promises and everlasting covenant with HIS chosen remnant of Israel --- He would give up on believers today. He keeps HIS promises
@@Over-for-now God didn't give up his chosen people, but the chosen people always have been those who are connected to God. It was never based solely on genetics.
@@asmrjeweler9237 God is the chooser because NONE seek after HIM. "All we like sheep have gone astray". The Bible is very clear about our depravity and our hatred of God and HIS claims on our lives
There is only one thing God is asking us today and that is do you believe that my Son offered his own blood in payment for your sins and accepted my gift of eternal life in Ephesians 2:8&9 KJV made possible by that sacrifice? There is no other gospel but that one today and until the appearing of Jesus Christ (Colossians 3:4 KJV)!
“Replacement theology“ is a most unfortunate pejorative term. A more fitting term would be “fulfillment theology“ or “remnant theology”. If someone has interest in hearing the other side (some thing that I think is more biblical) I recommend searching on RUclips ‘ what is replacement theology? Steve Gregg’.
When a Christian uses the term "Replacement Theology" it is entirely misrepresentation of Covenant Theology. The term "Replacement Theology" is used by those who actually do not understand what Covenant Theology teaches.
Incorrect it the same definition with different words. If Isreal is no longer the chosen people of God than God is a liar and he can change. Red flag theology if I saw one.
Paul did not mention ethnicity. What he said was that circumcision is of the heart not physical or flesh. Paul said that a Jew is the one who has circumcised heart ((not outward with circumcision of the flesh.))
Both Moses and Jeremiah also recognized that physical circumcision was of no value but it was the circumcision of the heart that mattered. (Dt 10:16 & Jer 4:4) And Paul calls the Gentile believers “the real circumcision” in Phil 3:3.
"What advantage hath then the Jew? And what profit is there in circumcision? Much in every way: chiefly, because unto them were committed the oracles of God. For, what if some did not believe? Shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid, let God be true, but every man a liar..." Romans 3:1-4.
This topic becomes divisive only because we tend to conflate 2 issues. What the word of God says, and our tendency to jump to a racist conclusion (on either side). If you objectively look at scriptures about covenant relationships with God, you see they were conditional. It’s worth taking the time.
We need to remember though. They do not worship the same God as we Christians. 1 John 2:23. Secondly we the believers in Christ Jesus as the heirs of Abraham Galatians 3:16 and Galatians 3:26-29. Thirdly we must remember Christ Himself said the Kindgom of Heaven has been taken away from them and given to a poeple producing the fruit of it Matthew 21:43. The Kingdom belongs the those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ I pray every Jew and Muslim recognizes this and comes back to the Father and believes on the Lord Jesus Christ. Please don't be like the Pharisees how old. Recoginize Christ is the Messiah and believe in Him please don't die in your sins. As a Christian, I can think of no great act of love for the Jewish and Muslim poeple than to tell them of the Love of Christ and plead that they would believe.
@paulpowell6418 I would say believing in Jesus as your savior makes you a Christian. I believe that those who are believers in Christ are Isreal, Believer in Christ make up the Body of Christ ie the Christian Church. The church is the bride of Christ. Christ made one church, men divide it, but it is still one church in God's eyes. Whether they be Lutheran(myself), Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist etc. Just as it was in Moses day. Being born a certain race never got any into heaven.
The following proves you are correct. Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24. In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews. Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5. Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11. Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11. Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost. Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24. Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church. I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following. "And then all Israel will be saved..." I have heard another say the following. "And all Israel will be saved..." What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say? Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse. How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below. Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future? Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith. Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.
What are the questions? The young host had asked Dr. Keener was about Israel, the people and the nation and where did the promise lie the promises of the covenant from God? 50 answer is both the individual due and the nation we’ve seen God move in individuals lives in great and mighty ways, but how would one characterize what happened in 1948 through a very human institution that has proven itself to be a reliable pho against the nation of Israel and the interest of its people. Is the only nation that was abolished and came back 2000 years later to be reestablished.
The New Testament replaced the Old. The church replaced ethnic Israel as God's chosen people. Replacement theology is a rouse. A degradation of what Jesus accomplished on the cross, reconciling Jew and gentile.
I believe God has an "eternal" attachment to the land, the actual "dirt" of the land He promised Abraham and has not changed His mind. I would love to visit one day should He tarry and allow me that privilege. Thanks again for a great discussion
You mentioned that because of unbelief Isreal was cut off. So in order to be grafted back in wouldn’t they be required to believe that Jesus is the Messiah? According to your interpretation all Isreal will be saved when Christ returns. So all of Isreal that is here today and in the past will miss out on that opportunity if they die before that time? How fortunate for that generation that is alive when He returns. There isn’t two paths to heaven one for Jews and one for everyone else. Judaism is a Christ rejecting religion. ”Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.“ Matthew 21:43 KJV Why do you attempt to be more loving than God? Replacement theology is all through the Bible take it for what it says and stop trying to be politically correct
This is incorrect, the Jewish Converts of European origin who occupy the state of Isreal are from the nation of Esau and did not receive the covenant the promise nor the salvation
In my mind, one of the great sins that replacement theology commits is it calls into question the character of God in other words can he be trusted to do what he says he will do he gave a blessing and a covenant to Israel. That covenant still is for Israel, and those who are grafted in however, there are some in the “church close “that think that they are now the inheritors of the covenant of God and that God has divorced Israel and is now going to marry the church. I would not want to be in that position when confronted by for inferring or spreading vicious lies about him.
So according to this video, salvation comes from one of two ways: The first laid out in John 3:16, and the other is that you are simply of a specific ethnic group? Is that what we are to believe?
He seems like a nice guy, this isn't a personal attack on him, but it is uncomfortable to see him be read clear scripture and then explain it away in an awkward way... ultimately denying what it clearly says, and always steering back around to being explained through his false hermeneutic. "Their branches have been broken off..." It isn't boasting to say that "broken off" means "not part of or connected to" (as he sorta said) but then he doesn't follow through with the logical implication then that Judah (broken off branches) is not connected to the Israel of God. And that it fits with scripture elsewhere, including Jesus saying their "house" was being left to them desolate and that they won't see Him again (or be graft back in) until they call out saying, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord" Next example, "a blindness has come to ISRAEL until the fullness of the gentiles has come in." It clearly says gentiles are coming into Israel. Literally. But, they don't read it so plainly. Though it is plain. Then there are verses that directly say believers in Christ (Jews or gentiles) are Abraham's children AND HEIRS of the promises. And it specifically says NOT people who claim to be genetic descendants. They read it and then just blank out on it. And return to a "racial fulfillment" viewpoint. They explain it away to make it somehow not say what it says. We have a biblical reality where an Old Covenant has been REPLACED by a New Covenant...but we want to slander people as "Replacement Theologists" who simply walk it out as the Bible explains. There has been a replacement of Covenants...and the New Covenant has been fulfilled by Jesus Christ. Also, this man...and many others...never actually walk through what "Israel" is ..or what it has been throughout biblical revelation and history. It was a man, and then twelve soms, and twelve tribes...and for a time it was just ten tribes, none of them Jewish. It was only for a given time that Jews were nearly exclusively Israel, from their return from exile until the resurrection of Jesus Christ and His fulfillment of the New Covenant. The eternal King of Israel is Jewish and Jews can be reconciled to Him right now. There isn't another plan for them. Jesus is their Messiah. The Israel of God is made up of Jews, and Gentiles alike now. Whosoever believes and confessed Jesus Christ. "Dispensationalism" or whatever hermeneutic separates Jews from God's ekklesia....His Israel...when He was crucified to reconcile all into one body...is anti- to Christ's will amd revelation to us. So much of the scripture is so clear. Again, it's sad to watch this man sort of reach and grasp at giving a convoluted interpretation.
Just read the Book of Galatians. Take note of the fact that I'm not just pointing to a verse here and there. The term "replacement theology" was whipped up as an intentionally deceptive pejorative from those who need to discredit the long held Covenant theology of the body of Christ in order to justify their position in dispensationalism.
I wanted to give this video- and Craig - a chance, but after 15 minutes of talking about subjective "experiences" and the words "racism" and "anti-Semitic" being thrown around I decided this video isn't gonna bring any biblical clarity on this subject. This video is simply here as a support for their "confirmation bias" of dispensational theology.
God CANNOT learn because He knows everything with His foreknowledge. This means He CANNOT change His mind and He CANNOT lie. God IS Love and Righteous - He demonstrated that on the cross. God IS Faithful and He demonstrates that through Israel. He chose them knowing they would be disobedient and would fail in their commission to be a kingdom of priests and a light to the gentiles. Israel is firstborn among the nations, double blessing and double judgement. In His sovereignty they are His chosen people through whom He enacted His plan of redemption. Their sins have been judged through history with the Assyrians taking the idolatrous northern kingdom into captive and the exile to Babylon but He has always said in His Word that He would restore the people to that land and the Messiah would rule from Jerusalem with David under Him. The rebirth of Israel in 1948 and subsequent migration of Jews back to Israel is all because of God (Ezekiel 36/37; Jer 29-33 et al) because His name/ reputation is at stake. His faithfully is at stake. So Israel is a nation again gathered in unbelief and the Great Tribulation will break them just as they suffered in Egypt and cried to God for a deliverer. This time they will cry out to Jesus in repentance and He then returns with His church to defeat the antichrist and his armies and then usher in the millennial kingdom. Our support for Israel is not to say it can't be criticised, rather it is having a biblical perspective that it is God who has re-established the nation to complete His plan of redemption for the world and that takes place when the fulness of the Gentiles is complete and the church is removed. So we pray that the blindness on Jews would be lifted so that many more will escape the Great tribulation. It would be very very very unwise (and stupid) for any saint to rail against Israel. Israel is God's 'problem', one day the entire world will come up against Israel to destroy it and only then will they truly turn to God for salvation. That is God's will and plan. The church and Israel are separate entities with different roles and destinies. Maranantha
Thank you for this message, Will & Craig. Regarding the concept of Replacement Theology there are really two distinctly separate issues: 1) Did the new testament ekklesia replace the old testament ekklesia? 2) Is the nation of Israel elect and restored to God at the return of the Son of man as King? Both covenant theology and dispensationalism have elements of Biblical truth, and both have grievous error. I believe the Father's heart is sorrowed by sons and daughters who place their faith in ~isms and ~ologies. Blessings
1) no the New Testament explains the old and does not replace it. 2) yes the nation of Israel is restored and saved when they look upon the one whom they pierced.
@@bradwhitt6768 Hi Brad... Thank you for your reply. I'm in agreement, the Scriptures overflow with passages describing the restoration of Israel in the Messianic kingdom. Regarding point 1), can you identify distinctions between the old testament ekklesia and the new testament ekklesia?
@@BrotherInChrist There are not two distinctions between the Old and New Testaments. Really the new explains the old. That's why we are Christians and not Jews. If the New Testament didn't explain the old we would hold the same old beliefs the Jews had of the Messiah. The New Testament doesn't abolish the Old Testament either. As Christ says I have not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. As far as covenants go just because the Abrahamic covenant to bless the nations through his seed (Jesus) was fulfilled does not make the covenant God made with Jacob null and void. Which Paul explains in Galatians and Romans. It's why Paul was thrown out of synagogues. Because Paul is telling the religious leaders and the Jews of the time that their prophecy of the messiah coming to destroy their enemies and to reign on earth isn't what is going to take place. That their sacrifices of animals aren't necessary that their messiah came and died on the cross for their sins to reconcile them to the Father. The cross is a stumbling block because in Jewish law hanging by a tree was for murders, thieves, and rapists. You have to understand that their messiah going from a conqueror to dying and being like a criminal is a problem for them. The Abrahamic covenant where the nations would be blessed through Abraham's seed offspring is in reference to what is to come. Notice seed and offspring are singular. That offspring is Christ. God hasn't changed his plan from the end to the beginning. So by saying the Old Testament and the new Testament have different and distinct ekklesia you are saying God had a different plan and that is heretical.
@@bradwhitt6768 Thank you for following up, Brad. The word for church, ekklesia, is used 60 times in 56 verses of the old testament (LXX) to describe the Israelites. The old testament ekklesia was the nation of the twelve tribes of Israel (including sojourners and proselytes), called out of Egypt to be God’s possession; a people in covenant with God. Many in the old testament ekklesia were not saved because they were not united by faith with those who listened to the good news (Hebrews 4:2). The Object of faith for the old testament saints was the Coming One; the coming Christ who is to bruise the head of the serpent (Genesis 3:15). In Hebrews 11, we learn that Moses regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward (Hebrews 11:26). The new testament ekklesia is comprised of Jew and Gentile, called out of the world to be God’s possession; a people in covenant with God. Many in the new testament ekklesia are not saved because they do not understand the word of the kingdom, some fall away because of tribulation or persecution, and others are unfruitful because the cares of the world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word (Matthew 9:18-22). The righteous shall live by faith, and those who have faith preserve their souls (Hebrews 10:38-39). The Object of faith for the new testament saints is the crucified, buried, and resurrected Christ, Jesus of Nazareth; our coming King (Matthew 25:31-46). Within the old testament and new testament ekklesia are the saints of God, counted righteous by faith; the sons of Abraham (Galatians 3:7, 29). Together we are made perfect (Hebrews 11:40)-resurrected and raptured (caught up to God; Greek, harpazo) at the parousia, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ; our blessed hope. Blessings
Exodus 19:5-6: “Now therefore, IF you will indeed obey my voice and keep my covenant, you shall be my treasured possession among all peoples, for all the earth is mine; and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.” God was telling national Israel that “if” (emphasis added above) they obey God’s voice and keep His covenant, THEN they would be His treasured possession, which was to be a kingdom of priests and a holy nation. If they were to be a “kingdom”, then that means that God was their King. Was He physically present on the earth? No. He had to be their King spiritually. Did national Israel have any physical land at this time? No they were still out in the desert only 3 months removed from the exodus. So now what is different with Christ (the Greek word for the Hebrew word “Messiah” which means the “Anointed One”, anointed as a king-see Luke 23:2)? Jesus isn’t physically reigning on earth but He is seated on a throne far above all things and has been given all authority in heaven and on the earth. His followers obey His commands as He reigns spiritually on earth. His kingdom with His faithful followers will go all around the earth as Daniel 2 tells us. Then on the Last Day when He returns to earth, His followers’ faith will be made sight as there is a new heavens and new earth, where there will be judgment for His children into eternal life and His enemies into a second death. The Apostle Peter gave those who believe in Jesus as their King, the same “calling” that Israel had come by out of Egypt in 1 Peter2:9 where he says: “But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.” Be part of Jesus’s kingdom. Obey His commands. Be a faithful servant to Him in this life.
Jews are from Judah, only 1 son of Israel. They are our brothers & were the forerunners returning to the land. The other tribes, minus Dan, are also mentioned in the 144,000, 12,000 per tribe.
Israel's covenant was explained in Deut. 28 and Leviticus 26. This contains the following: what happens to Israel when they obey; what happens to Israel if they disobey; what happens to Israel if they truly repent. Israel continued to disobey, and God accused her of spiritual adultery (Jeremiah 3; Hosea 1; Ezekiel 16; Isaiah 54) When Jesus stood before Pilate, and the Jews cried out "We have no king but Caesar. Let this man's blood be on us and on our children," this was the final event, and thus "these are the days of vengeance" (Luke 21; Matthew 21:33-44; Matthew 22:1-14; Matthew 23:29-39). The holy city, the great city where the Lord was crucified, the city figuratively described as Sodom, Egypt and Mystery Babylon (Old Jerusalem), the harlot city who still had a husband- he was still alive, was executed for her adultery based on Jewish law (Rev. 11:2; 11:8; 17:2; 17:5-6; 17:18; 18:2-3; 18:7-8; 18:24; 19:1-2). After the harlot's demise (70 AD), the Bride of Christ, the New Jerusalem, the great city, the holy city now takes her place at the marriage supper of the Lamb (Rev. 19:7-9; 21:2-3; 21:9-11; Ephesians 3; Hebrews 12:18-24; Rev. 3:12). So God's adulterous wife, described as a harlot (Old Jerusalem) was executed for adultery (70 AD), and the new bride took her place at the marriage supper of the Lamb, the New Jerusalem who became the great city, the holy city.
We know God chose Abraham who was a pagan worshipper saying ‘I will bless you to be a blessing to all nations’. He chose Abraham and his descendants not because they were better than any other but for a purpose, ultimately to reveal himself and his salvation to all nations. I am struggling to see how the high civilian death toll (as you state Palestinians civilians are not Hamas) is a blessing to the nations and winning people over to Christ, but appears the opposite and is escalating violence, war and suffering in the region and could risk barriers to people accepting the gospel by association which is heartbreaking. In history Jews & Christians have made epic mistakes in God’s name and so I think it is only a good thing to question motives and agendas and not just unquestionably support. I am a Christian humbled that I have been saved and grafted in but I am afraid I struggle to unconditionally support a government that seems to have an agenda to ‘kill and destroy’ as I also do not condone or support violence and killing by Hamas. This does not seem marked by a God of love, seeing people won over to Christ or seeing his kingdom come. I hear the warning against racism / Anti-semitism towards Jews, but no equivalent warning to safeguard against racism towards Palestinians, or condemn any agenda of ethnic cleansing. I would love to hear more Christian voices advocating against racism, hatred and bloodshed perpetuated by any all involved
The breaking off of the branch was explained to be a temporary blindness. The new covenant has indeed replaced the old covenant. The institutional church is nothing. The ekklesia of Christ is comprised of believing Israel and converted gentiles and is indeed the new man of the new covenant. To say the church replaced Israel is erroneous, for the new covenant is Christ’s Ekklesia and His Body of living stones. There is no Jew or gentile in this.
Jeremiah 31:31-37 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name: If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever. Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
Regarding Romans 11: Have not all Talmudic believing Jews rejected the Messiah? Are these people not branches of the olive tree which has been cut off? From what I can see, the only remaining *original* branches of the olive tree are Messianic Jews. The vast majority of Jews simply reject Jesus.
Supersessionism is a word that gets used by people who don't understand the gospel and the covenants accusing those who do understand of heresy. Now therefore ye [Gentile Ephesian] are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, (B.C.) and of the household of God; And are *built upon* the foundation of the apostles and prophets Jesus Christ. himself being the chief corner. In whom all the building fitly framed *together* groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord In whom ye also are *builded together* for an habitation of God through the Spirit. {Ephesians 2:19-22}
I find it funny how dispensationalist are going into panic mode. It's as if you guys are trying to redeem yourself from believing in a silly eschatology that is only but 200 years old. The fact of the matter is that you should not be worried about whether Israel is or is not the people of God (God defines his people as those who adhere to Christ), but your focus should be on salvation, if in fact you are in Christ.
Focus on the next generation who already reject this dispensational racist heresy. Too many GenZ are disgusted with dispensational christians and converting to Islam 😮
Who is actually teaching the replacement theology is the one that is claiming the other is teaching it. What is most commonly called replacement theology actually has the word of God as a withness. Who are the Israel of God? There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. {Galatians 3:28-29} Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ* For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN, so making peace; And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby* And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God; [The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun] {Ephesians 2:11-19} Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. {Acts 10:34-35} Again... But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God. {Romans 2:10-11} Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel: *Neither because they are the seed of Abraham* are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but *the children of the promise* are counted for the seed. {Romans 9:6-8} Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. {Galatians 4:28-29} For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon *the Israel of God* {Galatians 6:15-16} And they [the Jew] also, *if they abide not still in unbelief* shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in *again* {Romans 11:23} For ye are all the children of God *by faith in Christ Jesus* For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. {Galatians 3:26-27}
The following proves you are correct. Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8.) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? (See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.) Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? (See also 2 Thess. 1:7-10) If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period? Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel.
Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? The Apostle Paul warned us against using "genealogies" in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4 and Titus 3:9. Why? The most important genealogy in the Bible is found in Galatians 3:16. All races of people need Christ, for the same reason and in the same way. Did God replace the Old Covenant with a New Covenant? There is no Plan B of salvation based on race found in the New Testament. Plan A is found below. New Covenant Whole Gospel: What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the RUclips videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
Dr, Keener is misrepresenting "replacement theology" No one that holds that view would describe it that way. I am shocked at the misrepresentation. It seems charitable and educational to invite a brother of that persuasion. Steve Gregg, Gary Burge, Jeff Durbin, or Kenneth Gentry. Any of these would do....
Even as true Israel gave birth to the Church , Israel follows its Ark of the Covenant spiritually , like wise the true Church follows Israel & the Ark in the same way, leaving the temple & its politics to the Apostates, For then they placed Zeus & now intend to place hinduism , for the purpose of rebuilding it Even as Providence caught the Jews unawares, while dancing before their Buddah, An Oracle,
Right out of the gate these scholars apply scripture to us today from a time when Gentiles like us (pagans) were NOT even ALLOWED to be saved (until after Acts ended with Paul’s announcement in Acts 28:28 KJV). Simple as that. Are YOU asked to obey the Acts 15 ordinances today? No? Then that’s not you and me in Acts!
1. Paul appointed himself apostle, but there are only 12 Apostles of the Lamb (Rev 21:14), and Mattias replaced Judas. Rev 2:2 is about Paul. All of Asia turned against Paul, but not against our Messiah. Put Paul to the test. Don't use him in arguments because some of what he says is false. 2. Daniel 70 Weeks prophecy was fulfilled! The Jews had 490 years to repent and obey. They had our Messiah walk among them the last week. But the majority did not repent and rejected our Messiah. The penalty was they were no longer the chosen people. The Covenant was broken, the death price paid by our Messiah. 3. Our Messiah returned already. He returned when he said he would multiple times-- to the generation he was talking to. He said Caiaphas and the soldier who pierced him would see the signs of his return. He told his disciples some standing there would not taste death. In Rev, words like no delay and soon are used. He returned in 70 AD. Study Preterism. 4. Jacob's name was changed to Israel. His sons are the 12 tribes. Joseph got a double blessing -- his sons Ephraim and Manasseh are both tribes. The Levites did not inherit land. The tribes split after King Solomon's death. The Northern Kingdom or House of Israel formed from the 10 tribes and some Levites. The Southern Kingdom or House of Judah formed from Judah, Benjamin, and some Levites. All are Israelites. The Northern Kingdom lost its identity. You can be a blood descendant of Israel (Jacob). You would not know. 5. The gospel was opened to the Gentiles. 6. Our Messiah fulfilled prophecies on the cross. He cried out "it is finished". This included the 70 weeks timeline for the House of Judah. I believe the promises to Abraham were fulfilled. I think Israel now refers not to physical land, but to descendants of Jacob/Israel who believe in our Messiah and obey Covenant Torah Law (everything up to the golden calf sin) and to those called and chosen to believe and obey (baptized in the name of our Messiah). The Modern State of Israel is Satan's counterfeit. Over 95% of the Jews there are not descendants of Judah, Benjamin or Levi. They are not even descendants of Abraham. Ashkenaz are descendants of Noah's son Japheth. Abraham is a descendant of Noah's son Shem. They have no historical nor lineage right to the land. The religious ones follow the Talmud, not the Torah, but most are not religious. Their taking the land from Palestinians was wrong, their occupation is wrong, and their bombing of farmland, hospitals, schools, residential homes, and refuge camps is pure evil. Their cutting off aid, electricity, and water is evil. They are committing genocide and want the land. People who stand with Israel are standing with Satan's counterfeit, and against the Most High Eternal. They are mistaken in their understanding. Look at the fruit. Woe to those who call evil good.
All Israel must be the remnant, the second referred to Israel in Rom.9:6. Otherwise Judas, Caiaphas, Annas and every person of Israelite ethnicity that never believed in Jesus would be saved without Jesus, thus making John 14:6 null and void to the very people Jesus came to. Looking at it from a covenant standpoint clears it all up. There was one old covenant community, and there's one new covenant community, the olive tree Rom.11, one new man Eph.2, One flock with one shepherd Jn.10:16. The wall (Eph.2) has been removed all are one in Christ, it's only through His seed (Gal.3:16). In the new covenant the children of Abraham are only through Christ Gal.3:7, 29. Jesus rebuked the bunch in Jn.8:39-45 for claiming automatic ethnic entitlement. See also 1Jn.2:22, 2Jn.1:7, Rev.2:9, 3:9. The new covenant way to be a Jew is in Rom.2:28-29. May the kingdom of God come to Israel and to every other nation in Jesus name.
replacement theology vs. the plain truth in ephesians. what's the argument? the church is the olive tree that has always existed in abraham, has branches grafted in from the whole world. they are all one. no distinction. there's no partiality with God. and romans 9-11.
All the gates and walls are named for Jews -- the 12 Patriarchs and 12 apostles. There are 12,000 from each tribe who comprise the 144,000. The Remnant has the commandments of God and the Testimony of Yeshua. Just as the early church. It is not a new religion... It is a branch of Judaism called the Way.
The Messianic Jews of today identify with biblical Israel - but does God recognize them in that context? That is the question; but the question is moot if God has permanently divorced both Israel and her sister, Judah (the chosen people Christ came to in the first century). Acts 28:28-31 KJV. Paul never reiterates the promise of a kingdom to Israel or Judah ever again in his post-Acts epistles. The divorce decree includes the complete cancellation of all of the end time prophecy of Israel and Judah. Individuals will in no wise lose their reward (eternal life in the Col 1:13 kingdom) but not through God’s promises to Israel: Colossians 3:11: “Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.”
We need to remember though. They do not worship the same God as we Christians. 1 John 2:23. Secondly we the believers in Christ Jesus as the heirs of Abraham Galatians 3:16 and Galatians 3:26-29. Thirdly we must remember Christ Himself said the Kindgom of Heaven has been taken away from them and given to a poeple producing the fruit of it Matthew 21:43. The Kingdom belongs the those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ I pray every Jew and Muslim recognizes this and comes back to the Father and believes on the Lord Jesus Christ. Please don't be like the Pharisees how old. Recoginize Christ is the Messiah and believe in Him please don't die in your sins. As a Christian, I can think of no great act of love for the Jewish and Muslim poeple than to tell them of the Love of Christ and plead that they would believe.
typo ' he takes on church view" I meant he takes neither views on what the modern church believes nowadays and the other varieties. He does interestingly believe in a literal kingdom as i heard on his study in revelation. but not the kind that is taught in all churches Right now. Yalll know what im taking about. that Jerusalem temple. Also Keener never discussed his view on a Rebuild Temple in Israel. See that is why You need to Iris GLobal Re Interview him There was alot more I know it that He wanted Kenner that is to say. FOr sure he is Pro church a new israel grafted in and in time God will bring the true Isreal in He Keener is mistaken badly on the ethnicity side. I beleive He failed there. but i have to listen to this again.
Jesus said that His coming would be like lightning, which I think is a reference to the New Birth, which happens instantly when it is revealed to us and we confess, "Thou art the Christ." Jesus told us not to go looking into the wilderness or in to secret rooms looking for Him. I think that might be a reference to the foolishness of going to the Holy Land looking for Him.
As much as I respect and enjoy listening to Dr. Craig, here he makes the same mistake as others; using Jews and Israel interchangeably. All Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews. So called modern Jews are made up of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and a portion of Levi. Keener makes his point when he mentions the 144,000, 12,000 from Each tribe. Revelation Ch 7. Before we can move forward Eschatologically, all twelve tribes must be represented. The Return to the land might not be so literal. So where are the remains of the Lost Ten tribe Diaspora? [They] are us? Philippians 2:10-11 Shalom.
Ezekiel 38:14 " Future things to come " 14 “Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it? 15 You will come from your place in the far north, you and many nations with you, all of them riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army. 16 You will advance against my people Israel like a cloud that covers the land. In days to come, Gog, I will bring you against my land, so that the nations may know me when I am proved holy through you before their eyes. 17 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: You are the one I spoke of in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel. At that time they prophesied for years that I would bring you against them. 18 This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign Lord. 19 In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 The fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. 21 I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign Lord. Every man’s sword will be against his brother. 22 I will execute judgment on him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him. 23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the Lord.’
Who are the Israel of God? There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. {Galatians 3:28-29} Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands; That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world: BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ* For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN, so making peace; And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby* And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh. For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father. Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God; [The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun] {Ephesians 2:11-19} Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. {Acts 10:34-35} Again... But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God. {Romans 2:10-11} Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel: *Neither because they are the seed of Abraham* are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but *the children of the promise* are counted for the seed. {Romans 9:6-8} Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. {Galatians 4:28-29} For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature. And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and upon *the Israel of God* {Galatians 6:15-16} And they [the Jew] also, *if they abide not still in unbelief* shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in *again* {Romans 11:23} For ye are all the children of God *by faith in Christ Jesus* For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. {Galatians 3:26-27} Does your enmity remain?
one day we who are in Christ will be fast tracked to Jerusalem. & there Jesus sets up His HQ ,for His Kingdom Reign. & there we will go to get our maeching oders . His Kingdom come. His will be done .
Let’s say we grant that god intends what you say: the apocalypse happens, Jewish people get right with god and build their kingdom and rule it without challenge on the earth until the end of time. Is the point, theologically, that they reside in Israel and gentile Christians mainly reside in other places on earth or in heaven? All of creation and human history ultimately theologically revolved around that physical detail? What is the ultimate point? Ivanka trump is a convert to Judaism, like many other people throughout history and also nations in the Old Testament. How does the whole chosen people of god identity thing work?
Ruling an earthly kingdom on earth was the mistake that Israel/Jewish people made when Jesus came because Jesus said that his kingdom is not of this world. -The kingdom is Jesus who is our king and the Jews are not going to have an earthly kingdom according to Jesus.
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Tragically, dispensationalism replaces Christ with a re-emerged national Israel as the sacred epicentre of biblical prophecy. ✔️
What do you do with Ezekiel 37?
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Look at Acts 2, WHO was at Pentecost?
5 And there were dwelling in Jerusalem Jews, devout men, *from every nation under heaven.*
The Holy Ghost fell on them!
THIS WAS the restoration promised by God!
BELIEVING National Israel IS the foundation of God's Church (Ephesians 2)
And the Church IS God's ONE AND ONLY "Household" (Ephesians 2, 1 Timothy 3:15)
Read Isaiah 49
JESUS IS "The Servant" ISRAEL!
HE IS the true Israel and He had TWO MISSIONS:
1. Restore the remnant of JACOB (national/earthly Israel) I HAVE KEPT (preserved) (These are the elect, Romans 11:7)
2. Bring in the Gentiles (Isaiah 9:2) This occurred in Acts 10 when Peter was sent to a Gentile's house with the message of the Gospel.
Dispensationaists speak of "Literal" interpretation, but that is an error.
The bible teaches EARTHLY/NATURAL fulfillment (in Adam, the earthly man, see 1 Corinthians 15)
vs HEAVENLY/SPIRITUAL fulfillment (in Christ, the HEAVENLY man, the TRUE Israel, the one in whom ALL of God's promises, yes ALL of them are "Yes and Amen!"
The earthly/natural promises to the earthly/natural Israel WERE fulfilled (Joshua 21:45, Nehemiah 9)
(NOTE: ALL of the Land Seed Blessings wer fulfilled according to Nehemiah)
But as God warned them, they LOST the inhertiance (Jeremiah 17:4)
But these promises were SHADOWS
The REALITY is Found in Christ!
He will not fail, and all of the "Land, Seed, Blessing" promises are HEAVENLY/SPIRITUAL and yes literal!
(See Psalm 37, Hebrews 12:22, Romans 4:13)
These promises are not earthly, they are heavenly!
We do not look at things which are seen but at things which are NOT seen (2 Corinthians 4:18)
32:02 Thank you so much for having Dr. Keener on and discussing this truth. I’ve been introduced to the subject of replacement theology in the past, but it just wasn’t clear. Dr. Keener’s reference to Romans 11…especially verses 16-18, the answer was right there all the time!! Reading the scriptures as someone mentioned, with presuppositions that have been planted by others has been so difficult to shake off. But thank God in the last four years I have been able to begin reading the Scriptures having been empowered by others to see what IT says; not what I thought it said or what others said. Thank you so much again for this discussion Will!!!
New Covenant Whole Gospel: Can you honestly answer the first three questions below without ridicule or condemnation?
Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30, Heb. 13:20. Is there a Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church? Does God want a return to the Old Covenant system during a future time, or is the New Covenant "everlasting"? )
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8, 3:16.)
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 12:18-24, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16?
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
(See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.)
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and Hebrews 13:20, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period?
Based on John 19:37 and Acts chapter 2, was Zechariah 12:10 fulfilled at Calvary and on the Day of Pentecost? What did Paul say about Christ returning "in flaming fire" taking vengeance on those who do not obey the Gospel in 2 Thess. 1:7-10? Based on these passages from the New Testament, is there a Plan B of salvation based on race at the Second Coming of Jesus? If not, start sharing the New Covenant Gospel with all races of people now before it is too late for them.
Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel.
I’m not sure why you seem convinced that I will ridicule or condemn you? You don’t know me at all…
@@ks5499 It is a question, instead of an accusation. Can you answer the three questions?
Well you started with an assumption that that’s where I would go…and no…I won’t answer your questions…I’m not obligated…and I have neither the time nor the inclination to engage you
@@ks5499
Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24.
In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews.
Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5.
Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost.
Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24.
Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church.
I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following.
"And then all Israel will be saved..."
I have heard another say the following.
"And all Israel will be saved..."
What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say?
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse.
How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future?
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.
Fulfillment, Remnant, or Supercessationism theology is the term used by its proponents. For about the first 1800 years of Christianity, it was taught that the New Covenant superseded the Old Covenant. It was also taught that Christ, who in the upper room initiated a New Covenant with the remnant, is the fulfillment of the promises made to Israel. God cursed and divorced ethnic Israel for its disobedience. The real "Replacement" theology is Dispensational theology, which replaces Christ with ethnic Israel.
Yes-this is Traditional Catholic Theology-the clear teaching of the NT, the Church Fathers, and the Holy Saints--the Conciiliar post Vatican 2 Church is highly Judaized and the "Christian Zionists" concocted a bogus, anti-Christ false Gospel that is also genocidal.
It’s not replacement theology. It’s fulfillment theology.
The following proves you are correct.
Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary?
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8, 3:16.)
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
(See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.)
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? (See also 2 Thess. 1:7-10) If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period?
Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel.
@@SpotterVideo yep still replacement theology lol
@@mlp1211That's a typical response from a dispensationalist... utterly lacking any reference to scripture or thought. The other typical response is yanking one isolated verse out of context. And the worst type of response of all is making a false claim that anyone other that a dispensationalist is not a brother or sister in Christ Jesus. Thank you for at least not doing that.
@@davekpghpa still replacement theology.. American thelogy is destroying the church and polluting the world. A grafted branch does not become the plant its drafted to. Take a trip to a garden or simply look up a video on plant grafting. Its as simple as that
@@davekpghpa what do you do with Jeremiah 31, Ezekiel 36 & 37?
This was unbelievably helpful for me. Thank you! I went to a night of honoring Israel last week and it was a gathering of Christians, Messianic Jews, and non-Messianic Jews. I found myself really wrestling with a lot of stuff that was said there and some of the prayers that were prayed from the Christian leaders and the Jewish leaders. It was a weird feeling and I kinda just left there more confused and disheartened than I went in, but this video really helped clear some of that up. Will is right, all I know is that Jesus came to save lost people so I keep praying for both sides! Thank you for sharing this with us!
Yeah Galatians 3:29 explains that ONE in Christ.
There is no more jew or Greek male or female we are one in Christ.
What kind of prayers … may I ask?
So many labels. No wonder the confusion. If any man be in Christ he is a new creature
When I finally came to read the Bible I tried my best to disabuse myself of presuppositions and I didn't have an inherited theological background.
It seemed clear to me that Romans 9-11 was about Israel not being forsaken. I can, however, see how it's missed if one carries certain presuppositions going in.
It is also about the merger of Israel and all gentile converts into one tree that feeds from the same roots (i.e. the O.T. promises to Israel are the roots shared by the church)
Dr Kraig!! So nice to see him on here ❤️🔥
I am an American, and I support the right for Israel to exist. I support the right for Palestinians to exist. I support the right of Ukraine to exist i support the right of Russia to exist. We all must be saved by the gospel, no matter our nationality.
Wonderful episode! Thank you for this.
Thanks for posting. I love Dr. Keener.
Good to see you safe at home, Will.
I just noticed something, It just occurred to me that your name is Will Hart... The ministry of God's purpose is in your name...The Heart of the Willing...the willing heart !!! Profound and true !!! Thanks for being authentically YOU !!!
Great video, thanks for always bringing truth and clarity to difficult topics and doing it with grace and love. Appreciate all you do😊
Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24.
In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews.
Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5.
Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost.
Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24.
Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church.
I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following.
"And then all Israel will be saved..."
I have heard another say the following.
"And all Israel will be saved..."
What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say?
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse.
How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future?
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.
Derek Prince taught on this accurately since the 70's. Do yourself a favor and find his book "the key to the middle east". Excellent.
amen . also" history & destiny of Israel & the church." & while you have time" Appointment in Jerusalem " is wonderful, Derek Prince was cewrtainly used of God to teach the church , the relavence of Scripture & where we are at... 20 yaers ago... some have taken notice & are praying .
He is a true man of God. Derek Prince. Perfect timing they're playing his videos.
Sons of Abraham? Cultivated Olive Tree? Israel of God? Are Gentile believers members of the commonwealth of Israel? Who was grafted into the cultivated olive tree of Romans 11?
Paul wrote that a true Jew is one inwardly with a circumcised heart, and that circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, and not by the letter? Is the inward Jew a member of the cultivated olive tree?
In the epistle to the Romans, Paul writes, “Not all who are descended from Israel are Israel.” Is the Israel that Paul is referring to, the cultivated olive tree?
In the epistle to the Ephesians, Paul writes about a mystery-that through the gospel the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel, members together of one body, and sharers together in the promise in Christ Jesus. Is this one body the cultivated olive tree?
Jesus said He has two folds and they will become one flock. Is the one flock of Jesus the cultivated olive tree?
Hebrews 11:39-40 informs us that the NT and OT saints are made perfect together. Are these perfected, glorfied saints the cultivated olive tree?
Hebrews 12:23, in a vision, identifies an assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, coming to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to innumerable angels in festal gathering, and to God, the judge of all, and to the spirits of the righteous made perfect, and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant. Is this assembly of the firstborn who are enrolled in heaven, the cultivated olive tree? This prophetic vision meets fulfillment in Revelation 14:1-5, in the heavenly Mount Zion; the redeemed from mankind as firstfruits for God and the Lamb. Cultivated olive tree?
Revelation 1:6 and 5:10 points to a group of people who Jesus Christ has redeemed by His blood, to be a kingdom and priests. Is this kingdom of priests, freed from sin by the blood of Christ, the cultivated olive tree? Revelation 7:9 prophesies this same group, resurrected and raptured, glorified, and standing before the throne of God and the Lamb, from every nation, tribe, and tongue, wearing white robes and holding palm branches. Cultivated olive tree?
Is there a spiritual Israel? What do you call the body of glorified saints who will rule and reign with Christ on earth? Are the glorified saints members of the cultivated olive tree?
Is the cultivated olive tree the Israel of God?
In Isaiah 49 the Messiah is referred to as Israel. Because Gentile believers are in the Messiah, Jesus, does that include them as members of the cultivated olive tree, the Israel of God?
Are the sons of Abraham the Israel of God? Who are the sons of Abraham?
The sons of Abraham, counted righteous by faith, comprise the cultivated olive tree; they are Jew, and Gentile-the “Israel of God…” All the saints in salvation history… The firstborn enrolled in heaven… The redeemed from mankind as firstfruits for God and the Lamb… The eternal covenant community of YHWH redeemed by the Lamb… The bride of Christ.
The saints of the Most High shall receive the kingdom and possess the kingdom forever, forever and ever.
Biblical ecclesiology leads to Biblical eschatology.
Blessings...
Ethnicity means nothing to God if your heart is wrong. Every man will be judged for his behaviour not his father s behaviour. Anyone who believes in the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob(Israel) is part of the faith of Israel it’s that simple.👍
If God gave up on HIS promises and everlasting covenant with HIS chosen remnant of Israel --- He would give up on believers today.
He keeps HIS promises
@@Over-for-now God didn't give up his chosen people, but the chosen people always have been those who are connected to God. It was never based solely on genetics.
@@asmrjeweler9237 God is the chooser because NONE seek after HIM. "All we like sheep have gone astray". The Bible is very clear about our depravity and our hatred of God and HIS claims on our lives
There is only one thing God is asking us today and that is do you believe that my Son offered his own blood in payment for your sins and accepted my gift of eternal life in Ephesians 2:8&9 KJV made possible by that sacrifice? There is no other gospel but that one today and until the appearing of Jesus Christ (Colossians 3:4 KJV)!
@@dfkuz Faithful words. Thanks
The FINISHED work Jesus accomplished for salvation
“Replacement theology“ is a most unfortunate pejorative term. A more fitting term would be “fulfillment theology“ or “remnant theology”. If someone has interest in hearing the other side (some thing that I think is more biblical) I recommend searching on RUclips ‘ what is replacement theology? Steve Gregg’.
I love Steve Gregg!!
@@alanweinstein8625 indeed. I've know him for many years and he's a dear friend.
@@alanweinstein8625Steve Gregg is confused 😢
They always give it a derogatory term and then label us anti-semites. I believe we’re all grafted into one body.
Thanks!
Great stuff. Thanks.
When a Christian uses the term "Replacement Theology" it is entirely misrepresentation of Covenant Theology. The term "Replacement Theology" is used by those who actually do not understand what Covenant Theology teaches.
Replacement theology is Satan's doctrine.
Incorrect it the same definition with different words. If Isreal is no longer the chosen people of God than God is a liar and he can change. Red flag theology if I saw one.
@@cameronspach220 The Bible says Christ Jesus is Israel though. As He fulfilled everything Israel was suppose to do, as the true Israel.
@@paulpowell6418show me the verse that Jesus goes “I am the new Israel” (not Paul or anyone else, but Jesus him self says it)
@@cameronspach220 Jesus does not say those exact words. But in Matthew 2 we see that Jesus fulfilling the prophecy of Israel from Hosea.
Paul did not mention ethnicity. What he said was that circumcision is of the heart not physical or flesh.
Paul said that a Jew is the one who has circumcised heart ((not outward with circumcision of the flesh.))
Both Moses and Jeremiah also recognized that physical circumcision was of no value but it was the circumcision of the heart that mattered. (Dt 10:16 & Jer 4:4) And Paul calls the Gentile believers “the real circumcision” in Phil 3:3.
"What advantage hath then the Jew? And what profit is there in circumcision? Much in every way: chiefly, because unto them were committed the oracles of God. For, what if some did not believe? Shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect? God forbid, let God be true, but every man a liar..." Romans 3:1-4.
@@kvzacomics so?
@@supersmart671so God will be faithful to the promises he made to Israel all throughout the OT.
Nobody today has a circumcised heart. Just look at what Scripture describes, and ask yourself if this is your experience. The answer is no.
This topic becomes divisive only because we tend to conflate 2 issues. What the word of God says, and our tendency to jump to a racist conclusion (on either side). If you objectively look at scriptures about covenant relationships with God, you see they were conditional. It’s worth taking the time.
Great video. I fear that Replacement Theology is deceiving many good people.
We need to remember though. They do not worship the same God as we Christians. 1 John 2:23. Secondly we the believers in Christ Jesus as the heirs of Abraham Galatians 3:16 and Galatians 3:26-29. Thirdly we must remember Christ Himself said the Kindgom of Heaven has been taken away from them and given to a poeple producing the fruit of it Matthew 21:43. The Kingdom belongs the those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ I pray every Jew and Muslim recognizes this and comes back to the Father and believes on the Lord Jesus Christ. Please don't be like the Pharisees how old. Recoginize Christ is the Messiah and believe in Him please don't die in your sins. As a Christian, I can think of no great act of love for the Jewish and Muslim poeple than to tell them of the Love of Christ and plead that they would believe.
@@kinorynn You actually believe those who believe in Covenant Theology are NOT Christians?
@paulpowell6418 I'm not sure where you came to that conclusion. Can you elaborate more please?
@paulpowell6418 I would say believing in Jesus as your savior makes you a Christian. I believe that those who are believers in Christ are Isreal, Believer in Christ make up the Body of Christ ie the Christian Church. The church is the bride of Christ. Christ made one church, men divide it, but it is still one church in God's eyes. Whether they be Lutheran(myself), Catholic, Orthodox, Baptist etc.
Just as it was in Moses day. Being born a certain race never got any into heaven.
@@kinorynn My apologies, I thought I read something that clearly was not there. Forgive me.
Not all Israel is Israel in God's eyes now. You must be born again. As many as received Him to them..
The following proves you are correct.
Romans Chapter 11: In its New Covenant context... There is no Plan B of salvation outside of the New Covenant Church in this passage. Plan A is found in verses 23 and 24.
In Romans 1:16 Paul said the Gospel was taken "first" to the Jews. This time period can be found in Matt. 10:5-7, and Acts 10:36-38, and Gal. 1:14-18. Many try to claim God never gave the Jews a chance to accept Christ, so there must be some Plan B of salvation before or during the Second Coming of Christ. Romans 1:16 proves they are wrong, since Paul said the Gospel went "first" to the Jews. Many ignore the fact that Peter addressed the crowd as "men of Judea", and as "men of Israel", and as "all the house of Israel" on the Day of Pentecost, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. The Gentiles were not grafted in until several years later. This passage proves Paul was right about the Gospel being taken "first" to the Jews.
Were all of the Israelites "partially" hardened in Romans 11, or were part hardened and another part were not hardened? The answer is found in the "remnant" of Romans 11:5.
Paul reveals two different groups of Israelites in Romans 9:6-8. There is an Israel of the promise, and an Israel of the flesh. This is part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul speaks about the "remnant" of Israel in Romans 9:27. This is also part of the context of Romans 11.
Paul starts Romans 11 with two different groups of Israelites. In verse one Paul reveals he is still an Israelite, even after his conversion. Then Paul refers to two different groups of Israelites during the time of Elijah. There were the Baal worshippers, and there was the faithful "remnant". In verse five Paul says there is also a faithful "remnant" of Israelites during his time. This must be the Israelites who have accepted Christ, as on the Day of Pentecost.
Paul uses the two olive trees as a symbol of the New Covenant Church made up of believing Israelites, and believing Gentiles grafted together into the same tree. The unbelieving Israelites have been broken off but can be grafted back in through faith in Christ in verses 23-24.
Verse 26 is the problem for many modern Christians. What does the verse actually say, and how is it changed by many in the modern Church.
I have heard two of our nations famous preachers say the following.
"And then all Israel will be saved..."
I have heard another say the following.
"And all Israel will be saved..."
What does God's Word, recorded by the Apostle Paul actually say?
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
The English word "so" is translated from the Greek word "houto", which is an adverb of manner, instead of an adverb of timing. Some have changed the word from "so" to "then", in order to change the meaning of the verse.
How will all of the "remnant" of Israel from Romans 9:27 be saved? The answer is found in the verses that precede verse 26 and are found below.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
Paul quoted from the OT in referring to the Deliverer coming out of Sion to pay for sin. Did this happen at Calvary, or will Jesus die again for His people in the future?
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Verse 28 can only be understood by looking at how Paul started the passage. He started with two different groups of Israelites and he ends the passage in the same way. There are two different groups of "they" in verse 28. One group of "they" reject Christ and are the enemies of God, and another group of "they" are the election which accept Christ through hearing the Gospel and faith.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
Based on Luke 21:24b-28, the times of the Gentiles comes to fullness at the Second Coming of Christ. This agrees with what Paul said in Romans 1:16 about the Gospel going “first” to the Jews.
What are the questions? The young host had asked Dr. Keener was about Israel, the people and the nation and where did the promise lie the promises of the covenant from God? 50 answer is both the individual due and the nation we’ve seen God move in individuals lives in great and mighty ways, but how would one characterize what happened in 1948 through a very human institution that has proven itself to be a reliable pho against the nation of Israel and the interest of its people. Is the only nation that was abolished and came back 2000 years later to be reestablished.
The New Testament replaced the Old. The church replaced ethnic Israel as God's chosen people. Replacement theology is a rouse. A degradation of what Jesus accomplished on the cross, reconciling Jew and gentile.
Amen Will. Thanks for great conversation. Bless the jewish people. ❤
I believe God has an "eternal" attachment to the land, the actual "dirt" of the land He promised Abraham and has not changed His mind. I would love to visit one day should He tarry and allow me that privilege. Thanks again for a great discussion
You mentioned that because of unbelief Isreal was cut off. So in order to be grafted back in wouldn’t they be required to believe that Jesus is the Messiah? According to your interpretation all Isreal will be saved when Christ returns. So all of Isreal that is here today and in the past will miss out on that opportunity if they die before that time? How fortunate for that generation that is alive when He returns. There isn’t two paths to heaven one for Jews and one for everyone else. Judaism is a Christ rejecting religion.
”Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.“
Matthew 21:43 KJV
Why do you attempt to be more loving than God? Replacement theology is all through the Bible take it for what it says and stop trying to be politically correct
Was there a clip that we were supposed to see? You mentioned one but it’s not on here .
This is incorrect, the Jewish Converts of European origin who occupy the state of Isreal are from the nation of Esau and did not receive the covenant the promise nor the salvation
In my mind, one of the great sins that replacement theology commits is it calls into question the character of God in other words can he be trusted to do what he says he will do he gave a blessing and a covenant to Israel. That covenant still is for Israel, and those who are grafted in however, there are some in the “church close “that think that they are now the inheritors of the covenant of God and that God has divorced Israel and is now going to marry the church. I would not want to be in that position when confronted by for inferring or spreading vicious lies about him.
Agreed.. Its all about a God who keeps His Words and His promises!
So according to this video, salvation comes from one of two ways: The first laid out in John 3:16, and the other is that you are simply of a specific ethnic group? Is that what we are to believe?
He seems like a nice guy, this isn't a personal attack on him, but it is uncomfortable to see him be read clear scripture and then explain it away in an awkward way... ultimately denying what it clearly says, and always steering back around to being explained through his false hermeneutic.
"Their branches have been broken off..."
It isn't boasting to say that "broken off" means "not part of or connected to" (as he sorta said) but then he doesn't follow through with the logical implication then that Judah (broken off branches) is not connected to the Israel of God. And that it fits with scripture elsewhere, including Jesus saying their "house" was being left to them desolate and that they won't see Him again (or be graft back in) until they call out saying, "Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord"
Next example, "a blindness has come to ISRAEL until the fullness of the gentiles has come in." It clearly says gentiles are coming into Israel. Literally. But, they don't read it so plainly. Though it is plain.
Then there are verses that directly say believers in Christ (Jews or gentiles) are Abraham's children AND HEIRS of the promises. And it specifically says NOT people who claim to be genetic descendants. They read it and then just blank out on it. And return to a "racial fulfillment" viewpoint. They explain it away to make it somehow not say what it says.
We have a biblical reality where an Old Covenant has been REPLACED by a New Covenant...but we want to slander people as "Replacement Theologists" who simply walk it out as the Bible explains. There has been a replacement of Covenants...and the New Covenant has been fulfilled by Jesus Christ.
Also, this man...and many others...never actually walk through what "Israel" is ..or what it has been throughout biblical revelation and history. It was a man, and then twelve soms, and twelve tribes...and for a time it was just ten tribes, none of them Jewish. It was only for a given time that Jews were nearly exclusively Israel, from their return from exile until the resurrection of Jesus Christ and His fulfillment of the New Covenant. The eternal King of Israel is Jewish and Jews can be reconciled to Him right now. There isn't another plan for them. Jesus is their Messiah. The Israel of God is made up of Jews, and Gentiles alike now. Whosoever believes and confessed Jesus Christ.
"Dispensationalism" or whatever hermeneutic separates Jews from God's ekklesia....His Israel...when He was crucified to reconcile all into one body...is anti- to Christ's will amd revelation to us.
So much of the scripture is so clear. Again, it's sad to watch this man sort of reach and grasp at giving a convoluted interpretation.
Just read the Book of Galatians. Take note of the fact that I'm not just pointing to a verse here and there.
The term "replacement theology" was whipped up as an intentionally deceptive pejorative from those who need to discredit the long held Covenant theology of the body of Christ in order to justify their position in dispensationalism.
I wanted to give this video- and Craig - a chance, but after 15 minutes of talking about subjective "experiences" and the words "racism" and "anti-Semitic" being thrown around I decided this video isn't gonna bring any biblical clarity on this subject. This video is simply here as a support for their "confirmation bias" of dispensational theology.
Simply replacement theology is a heresy.
No it's been Catholic and Orthodox doctrine for the past 2000 years. Justin Martyr was not a heretic.
God CANNOT learn because He knows everything with His foreknowledge. This means He CANNOT change His mind and He CANNOT lie. God IS Love and Righteous - He demonstrated that on the cross. God IS Faithful and He demonstrates that through Israel. He chose them knowing they would be disobedient and would fail in their commission to be a kingdom of priests and a light to the gentiles. Israel is firstborn among the nations, double blessing and double judgement. In His sovereignty they are His chosen people through whom He enacted His plan of redemption. Their sins have been judged through history with the Assyrians taking the idolatrous northern kingdom into captive and the exile to Babylon but He has always said in His Word that He would restore the people to that land and the Messiah would rule from Jerusalem with David under Him. The rebirth of Israel in 1948 and subsequent migration of Jews back to Israel is all because of God (Ezekiel 36/37; Jer 29-33 et al) because His name/ reputation is at stake. His faithfully is at stake. So Israel is a nation again gathered in unbelief and the Great Tribulation will break them just as they suffered in Egypt and cried to God for a deliverer. This time they will cry out to Jesus in repentance and He then returns with His church to defeat the antichrist and his armies and then usher in the millennial kingdom. Our support for Israel is not to say it can't be criticised, rather it is having a biblical perspective that it is God who has re-established the nation to complete His plan of redemption for the world and that takes place when the fulness of the Gentiles is complete and the church is removed. So we pray that the blindness on Jews would be lifted so that many more will escape the Great tribulation. It would be very very very unwise (and stupid) for any saint to rail against Israel. Israel is God's 'problem', one day the entire world will come up against Israel to destroy it and only then will they truly turn to God for salvation. That is God's will and plan. The church and Israel are separate entities with different roles and destinies. Maranantha
Is Hamas different from Irgun or Lehi?
Thank you for this message, Will & Craig. Regarding the concept of Replacement Theology there are really two distinctly separate issues:
1) Did the new testament ekklesia replace the old testament ekklesia?
2) Is the nation of Israel elect and restored to God at the return of the Son of man as King?
Both covenant theology and dispensationalism have elements of Biblical truth, and both have grievous error.
I believe the Father's heart is sorrowed by sons and daughters who place their faith in ~isms and ~ologies.
Blessings
1) no the New Testament explains the old and does not replace it. 2) yes the nation of Israel is restored and saved when they look upon the one whom they pierced.
@@bradwhitt6768 Hi Brad... Thank you for your reply. I'm in agreement, the Scriptures overflow with passages describing the restoration of Israel in the Messianic kingdom.
Regarding point 1), can you identify distinctions between the old testament ekklesia and the new testament ekklesia?
@@BrotherInChrist There are not two distinctions between the Old and New Testaments. Really the new explains the old. That's why we are Christians and not Jews. If the New Testament didn't explain the old we would hold the same old beliefs the Jews had of the Messiah. The New Testament doesn't abolish the Old Testament either. As Christ says I have not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. As far as covenants go just because the Abrahamic covenant to bless the nations through his seed (Jesus) was fulfilled does not make the covenant God made with Jacob null and void. Which Paul explains in Galatians and Romans. It's why Paul was thrown out of synagogues. Because Paul is telling the religious leaders and the Jews of the time that their prophecy of the messiah coming to destroy their enemies and to reign on earth isn't what is going to take place. That their sacrifices of animals aren't necessary that their messiah came and died on the cross for their sins to reconcile them to the Father. The cross is a stumbling block because in Jewish law hanging by a tree was for murders, thieves, and rapists. You have to understand that their messiah going from a conqueror to dying and being like a criminal is a problem for them. The Abrahamic covenant where the nations would be blessed through Abraham's seed offspring is in reference to what is to come. Notice seed and offspring are singular. That offspring is Christ. God hasn't changed his plan from the end to the beginning. So by saying the Old Testament and the new Testament have different and distinct ekklesia you are saying God had a different plan and that is heretical.
@@bradwhitt6768 Thank you for following up, Brad. The word for church, ekklesia, is used 60 times in 56 verses of the old testament (LXX) to describe the Israelites.
The old testament ekklesia was the nation of the twelve tribes of Israel (including sojourners and proselytes), called out of Egypt to be God’s possession; a people in covenant with God. Many in the old testament ekklesia were not saved because they were not united by faith with those who listened to the good news (Hebrews 4:2). The Object of faith for the old testament saints was the Coming One; the coming Christ who is to bruise the head of the serpent (Genesis 3:15). In Hebrews 11, we learn that Moses regarded disgrace for the sake of Christ as of greater value than the treasures of Egypt, because he was looking ahead to his reward (Hebrews 11:26).
The new testament ekklesia is comprised of Jew and Gentile, called out of the world to be God’s possession; a people in covenant with God. Many in the new testament ekklesia are not saved because they do not understand the word of the kingdom, some fall away because of tribulation or persecution, and others are unfruitful because the cares of the world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word (Matthew 9:18-22). The righteous shall live by faith, and those who have faith preserve their souls (Hebrews 10:38-39). The Object of faith for the new testament saints is the crucified, buried, and resurrected Christ, Jesus of Nazareth; our coming King (Matthew 25:31-46).
Within the old testament and new testament ekklesia are the saints of God, counted righteous by faith; the sons of Abraham (Galatians 3:7, 29). Together we are made perfect (Hebrews 11:40)-resurrected and raptured (caught up to God; Greek, harpazo) at the parousia, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ; our blessed hope.
Blessings
@@BrotherInChristIt's pretty amazing that greek was used in the Old Testament considering Jews didn't know the Greeks in the Old Testament.
Exodus 19:5-6: “Now therefore, IF you will indeed obey my voice and keep my covenant, you shall be my treasured possession among all peoples, for all the earth is mine; and you shall be to me a kingdom of priests and a holy nation.”
God was telling national Israel that “if” (emphasis added above) they obey God’s voice and keep His covenant, THEN they would be His treasured possession, which was to be a kingdom of priests and a holy nation. If they were to be a “kingdom”, then that means that God was their King. Was He physically present on the earth? No. He had to be their King spiritually. Did national Israel have any physical land at this time? No they were still out in the desert only 3 months removed from the exodus.
So now what is different with Christ (the Greek word for the Hebrew word “Messiah” which means the “Anointed One”, anointed as a king-see Luke 23:2)? Jesus isn’t physically reigning on earth but He is seated on a throne far above all things and has been given all authority in heaven and on the earth. His followers obey His commands as He reigns spiritually on earth. His kingdom with His faithful followers will go all around the earth as Daniel 2 tells us. Then on the Last Day when He returns to earth, His followers’ faith will be made sight as there is a new heavens and new earth, where there will be judgment for His children into eternal life and His enemies into a second death.
The Apostle Peter gave those who believe in Jesus as their King, the same “calling” that Israel had come by out of Egypt in 1 Peter2:9 where he says: “But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the excellencies of him who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.”
Be part of Jesus’s kingdom. Obey His commands. Be a faithful servant to Him in this life.
So which makes sense? Replacement theology or dispensation theology?? 😢😢
Both have elements that fit Scripture and parts that are problematic. The best thing is to take the good parts and discard the problematic parts
Jews are from Judah, only 1 son of Israel. They are our brothers & were the forerunners returning to the land. The other tribes, minus Dan, are also mentioned in the 144,000, 12,000 per tribe.
The church has indeed replaced Israel as the place where the unbeliever finds God. The church holds the keys. Previously, it was the Levite priests.
Israel's covenant was explained in Deut. 28 and Leviticus 26. This contains the following: what happens to Israel when they obey; what happens to Israel if they disobey; what happens to Israel if they truly repent.
Israel continued to disobey, and God accused her of spiritual adultery (Jeremiah 3; Hosea 1; Ezekiel 16; Isaiah 54)
When Jesus stood before Pilate, and the Jews cried out "We have no king but Caesar. Let this man's blood be on us and on our children," this was the final event, and thus "these are the days of vengeance" (Luke 21; Matthew 21:33-44; Matthew 22:1-14; Matthew 23:29-39).
The holy city, the great city where the Lord was crucified, the city figuratively described as Sodom, Egypt and Mystery Babylon (Old Jerusalem), the harlot city who still had a husband- he was still alive, was executed for her adultery based on Jewish law (Rev. 11:2; 11:8; 17:2; 17:5-6; 17:18; 18:2-3; 18:7-8; 18:24; 19:1-2).
After the harlot's demise (70 AD), the Bride of Christ, the New Jerusalem, the great city, the holy city now takes her place at the marriage supper of the Lamb (Rev. 19:7-9; 21:2-3; 21:9-11; Ephesians 3; Hebrews 12:18-24; Rev. 3:12).
So God's adulterous wife, described as a harlot (Old Jerusalem) was executed for adultery (70 AD), and the new bride took her place at the marriage supper of the Lamb, the New Jerusalem who became the great city, the holy city.
Jonh 15:1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.... He is ...the Israel of God
We know God chose Abraham who was a pagan worshipper saying ‘I will bless you to be a blessing to all nations’. He chose Abraham and his descendants not because they were better than any other but for a purpose, ultimately to reveal himself and his salvation to all nations.
I am struggling to see how the high civilian death toll (as you state Palestinians civilians are not Hamas) is a blessing to the nations and winning people over to Christ, but appears the opposite and is escalating violence, war and suffering in the region and could risk barriers to people accepting the gospel by association which is heartbreaking.
In history Jews & Christians have made epic mistakes in God’s name and so I think it is only a good thing to question motives and agendas and not just unquestionably support. I am a Christian humbled that I have been saved and grafted in but I am afraid I struggle to unconditionally support a government that seems to have an agenda to ‘kill and destroy’ as I also do not condone or support violence and killing by Hamas. This does not seem marked by a God of love, seeing people won over to Christ or seeing his kingdom come. I hear the warning against racism / Anti-semitism towards Jews, but no equivalent warning to safeguard against racism towards Palestinians, or condemn any agenda of ethnic cleansing. I would love to hear more Christian voices advocating against racism, hatred and bloodshed perpetuated by any all involved
Replacement theology is from the pits oh hell. God will not be mocked!
Use scripture to back your point
The breaking off of the branch was explained to be a temporary blindness. The new covenant has indeed replaced the old covenant. The institutional church is nothing. The ekklesia of Christ is comprised of believing Israel and converted gentiles and is indeed the new man of the new covenant. To say the church replaced Israel is erroneous, for the new covenant is Christ’s Ekklesia and His Body of living stones. There is no Jew or gentile in this.
Jeremiah 31:31-37
Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Thus saith the LORD, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The LORD of hosts is his name:
If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the LORD, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
Thus saith the LORD; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the LORD.
Regarding Romans 11: Have not all Talmudic believing Jews rejected the Messiah? Are these people not branches of the olive tree which has been cut off? From what I can see, the only remaining *original* branches of the olive tree are Messianic Jews. The vast majority of Jews simply reject Jesus.
Supersessionism is a word that gets used by people who don't understand the gospel and the covenants accusing those who do understand of heresy.
Now therefore ye [Gentile Ephesian] are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, (B.C.) and of the household of God;
And are *built upon* the foundation of the apostles and prophets Jesus Christ. himself being the chief corner.
In whom all the building fitly framed *together* groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord
In whom ye also are *builded together* for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
{Ephesians 2:19-22}
Did I hear the dude; I believe it's his show, saying he was not taking sides in the most recent conflict in Israel? I hope my ears deceived me.
I find it funny how dispensationalist are going into panic mode. It's as if you guys are trying to redeem yourself from believing in a silly eschatology that is only but 200 years old. The fact of the matter is that you should not be worried about whether Israel is or is not the people of God (God defines his people as those who adhere to Christ), but your focus should be on salvation, if in fact you are in Christ.
Focus on the next generation who already reject this dispensational racist heresy. Too many GenZ are disgusted with dispensational christians and converting to Islam 😮
The Church began with Jews, so yes the Church is Israel.
Who is actually teaching the replacement theology is the one that is claiming the other is teaching it.
What is most commonly called replacement theology actually has the word of God as a withness.
Who are the Israel of God?
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. {Galatians 3:28-29}
Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ*
For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN, so making peace;
And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby*
And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God;
[The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun]
{Ephesians 2:11-19}
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
{Acts 10:34-35}
Again...
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
For there is no respect of persons with God.
{Romans 2:10-11}
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel:
*Neither because they are the seed of Abraham* are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but *the children of the promise* are counted for the seed.
{Romans 9:6-8}
Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
{Galatians 4:28-29}
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and
upon *the Israel of God*
{Galatians 6:15-16}
And they [the Jew] also, *if they abide not still in unbelief* shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in *again*
{Romans 11:23}
For ye are all the children of God *by faith in Christ Jesus*
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
{Galatians 3:26-27}
The following proves you are correct.
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Paul’s interpretation in Galatians 3:8.)
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
(See what Joshua said about the Old Covenant land promise in Josh. 21:43.)
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and is it fulfilled by the blood of Christ at Calvary in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 12:18-24?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church, if the New Covenant is “everlasting” in Hebrews 13:20? (See also 2 Thess. 1:7-10) If the New Covenant has made the Old Covenant “obsolete” in Hebrews 8:6-13, why would God go back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period?
Read the recent book "The Rise and Fall of Dispensationalism", by Daniel G. Hummel.
Who is now the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? The Apostle Paul warned us against using "genealogies" in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4 and Titus 3:9. Why? The most important genealogy in the Bible is found in Galatians 3:16. All races of people need Christ, for the same reason and in the same way. Did God replace the Old Covenant with a New Covenant? There is no Plan B of salvation based on race found in the New Testament. Plan A is found below.
New Covenant Whole Gospel:
What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below.
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Watch the RUclips videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
Dr, Keener is misrepresenting "replacement theology" No one that holds that view would describe it that way. I am shocked at the misrepresentation. It seems charitable and educational to invite a brother of that persuasion. Steve Gregg, Gary Burge, Jeff Durbin, or Kenneth Gentry. Any of these would do....
Even as true Israel gave birth to the Church , Israel follows its Ark of the Covenant spiritually , like wise the true Church follows Israel & the Ark in the same way, leaving the temple & its politics to the Apostates, For then they placed Zeus & now intend to place hinduism , for the purpose of rebuilding it
Even as Providence caught the Jews unawares, while dancing before their Buddah, An Oracle,
Yeshua lives. Lawless Christianity creates replacement theology and dispensationalism.
Right out of the gate these scholars apply scripture to us today from a time when Gentiles like us (pagans) were NOT even ALLOWED to be saved (until after Acts ended with Paul’s announcement in Acts 28:28 KJV). Simple as that. Are YOU asked to obey the Acts 15 ordinances today? No? Then that’s not you and me in Acts!
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Jesus said that no one will go in heaven without his permission. Good luck to the current state of Isreal
1. Paul appointed himself apostle, but there are only 12 Apostles of the Lamb (Rev 21:14), and Mattias replaced Judas. Rev 2:2 is about Paul. All of Asia turned against Paul, but not against our Messiah. Put Paul to the test. Don't use him in arguments because some of what he says is false.
2. Daniel 70 Weeks prophecy was fulfilled! The Jews had 490 years to repent and obey. They had our Messiah walk among them the last week. But the majority did not repent and rejected our Messiah. The penalty was they were no longer the chosen people. The Covenant was broken, the death price paid by our Messiah.
3. Our Messiah returned already. He returned when he said he would multiple times-- to the generation he was talking to. He said Caiaphas and the soldier who pierced him would see the signs of his return. He told his disciples some standing there would not taste death. In Rev, words like no delay and soon are used. He returned in 70 AD. Study Preterism.
4. Jacob's name was changed to Israel. His sons are the 12 tribes. Joseph got a double blessing -- his sons Ephraim and Manasseh are both tribes. The Levites did not inherit land. The tribes split after King Solomon's death. The Northern Kingdom or House of Israel formed from the 10 tribes and some Levites. The Southern Kingdom or House of Judah formed from Judah, Benjamin, and some Levites. All are Israelites. The Northern Kingdom lost its identity. You can be a blood descendant of Israel (Jacob). You would not know.
5. The gospel was opened to the Gentiles.
6. Our Messiah fulfilled prophecies on the cross. He cried out "it is finished". This included the 70 weeks timeline for the House of Judah.
I believe the promises to Abraham were fulfilled. I think Israel now refers not to physical land, but to descendants of Jacob/Israel who believe in our Messiah and obey Covenant Torah Law (everything up to the golden calf sin) and to those called and chosen to believe and obey (baptized in the name of our Messiah).
The Modern State of Israel is Satan's counterfeit. Over 95% of the Jews there are not descendants of Judah, Benjamin or Levi. They are not even descendants of Abraham. Ashkenaz are descendants of Noah's son Japheth. Abraham is a descendant of Noah's son Shem. They have no historical nor lineage right to the land. The religious ones follow the Talmud, not the Torah, but most are not religious. Their taking the land from Palestinians was wrong, their occupation is wrong, and their bombing of farmland, hospitals, schools, residential homes, and refuge camps is pure evil. Their cutting off aid, electricity, and water is evil. They are committing genocide and want the land.
People who stand with Israel are standing with Satan's counterfeit, and against the Most High Eternal. They are mistaken in their understanding. Look at the fruit. Woe to those who call evil good.
as if the history of the israeli chosen people concentration camp began in oct07 hilarious
Bad start. I hate that 'Jesus loves everybody' cliche. If you are going to lean on it, you need to define pretty precisely what you mean by 'love.'
All Israel must be the remnant, the second referred to Israel in Rom.9:6. Otherwise Judas, Caiaphas, Annas and every person of Israelite ethnicity that never believed in Jesus would be saved without Jesus, thus making John 14:6 null and void to the very people Jesus came to. Looking at it from a covenant standpoint clears it all up. There was one old covenant community, and there's one new covenant community, the olive tree Rom.11, one new man Eph.2, One flock with one shepherd Jn.10:16. The wall (Eph.2) has been removed all are one in Christ, it's only through His seed (Gal.3:16). In the new covenant the children of Abraham are only through Christ Gal.3:7, 29. Jesus rebuked the bunch in Jn.8:39-45 for claiming automatic ethnic entitlement. See also 1Jn.2:22, 2Jn.1:7, Rev.2:9, 3:9. The new covenant way to be a Jew is in Rom.2:28-29. May the kingdom of God come to Israel and to every other nation in Jesus name.
replacement theology vs. the plain truth in ephesians. what's the argument?
the church is the olive tree that has always existed in abraham, has branches grafted in from the whole world. they are all one. no distinction. there's no partiality with God.
and romans 9-11.
All the gates and walls are named for Jews -- the 12 Patriarchs and 12 apostles.
There are 12,000 from each tribe who comprise the 144,000.
The Remnant has the commandments of God and the Testimony of Yeshua. Just as the early church. It is not a new religion... It is a branch of Judaism called the Way.
The Messianic Jews of today identify with biblical Israel - but does God recognize them in that context? That is the question; but the question is moot if God has permanently divorced both Israel and her sister, Judah (the chosen people Christ came to in the first century). Acts 28:28-31 KJV. Paul never reiterates the promise of a kingdom to Israel or Judah ever again in his post-Acts epistles. The divorce decree includes the complete cancellation of all of the end time prophecy of Israel and Judah. Individuals will in no wise lose their reward (eternal life in the Col 1:13 kingdom) but not through God’s promises to Israel: Colossians 3:11: “Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.”
We need to remember though. They do not worship the same God as we Christians. 1 John 2:23. Secondly we the believers in Christ Jesus as the heirs of Abraham Galatians 3:16 and Galatians 3:26-29. Thirdly we must remember Christ Himself said the Kindgom of Heaven has been taken away from them and given to a poeple producing the fruit of it Matthew 21:43. The Kingdom belongs the those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ I pray every Jew and Muslim recognizes this and comes back to the Father and believes on the Lord Jesus Christ. Please don't be like the Pharisees how old. Recoginize Christ is the Messiah and believe in Him please don't die in your sins. As a Christian, I can think of no great act of love for the Jewish and Muslim poeple than to tell them of the Love of Christ and plead that they would believe.
The gifts and calling of God are irrevocable. God is not done with Israel.
That just means Jews can be grafted back in if they believe.
typo ' he takes on church view" I meant he takes neither views on what the modern church believes nowadays and the other varieties. He does interestingly believe in a literal kingdom as i heard on his study in revelation. but not the kind that is taught in all churches Right now. Yalll know what im taking about. that Jerusalem temple. Also Keener never
discussed his view on a Rebuild Temple in Israel. See that is why You need to Iris GLobal Re Interview him There was alot more I know it that He wanted Kenner that is to say. FOr sure he is Pro church a new israel grafted in and in time God will bring the true Isreal in He Keener is mistaken badly on the ethnicity side. I beleive He failed there. but i have to listen to this again.
Jesus said that His coming would be like lightning, which I think is a reference to the New Birth, which happens instantly when it is revealed to us and we confess, "Thou art the Christ." Jesus told us not to go looking into the wilderness or in to secret rooms looking for Him. I think that might be a reference to the foolishness of going to the Holy Land looking for Him.
As much as I respect and enjoy listening to Dr. Craig, here he makes the same mistake as others; using Jews and Israel interchangeably. All Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews. So called modern Jews are made up of the tribes of Judah, Benjamin and a portion of Levi. Keener makes his point when he mentions the 144,000, 12,000 from Each tribe. Revelation Ch 7. Before we can move forward Eschatologically, all twelve tribes must be represented. The Return to the land might not be so literal. So where are the remains of the Lost Ten tribe Diaspora? [They] are us? Philippians 2:10-11 Shalom.
Ezekiel 38:14
" Future things to come "
14 “Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: In that day, when my people Israel are living in safety, will you not take notice of it? 15 You will come from your place in the far north, you and many nations with you, all of them riding on horses, a great horde, a mighty army. 16 You will advance against my people Israel like a cloud that covers the land. In days to come, Gog, I will bring you against my land, so that the nations may know me when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.
17 “‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: You are the one I spoke of in former days by my servants the prophets of Israel. At that time they prophesied for years that I would bring you against them. 18 This is what will happen in that day: When Gog attacks the land of Israel, my hot anger will be aroused, declares the Sovereign Lord. 19 In my zeal and fiery wrath I declare that at that time there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel. 20 The fish in the sea, the birds in the sky, the beasts of the field, every creature that moves along the ground, and all the people on the face of the earth will tremble at my presence. The mountains will be overturned, the cliffs will crumble and every wall will fall to the ground. 21 I will summon a sword against Gog on all my mountains, declares the Sovereign Lord. Every man’s sword will be against his brother. 22 I will execute judgment on him with plague and bloodshed; I will pour down torrents of rain, hailstones and burning sulfur on him and on his troops and on the many nations with him. 23 And so I will show my greatness and my holiness, and I will make myself known in the sight of many nations. Then they will know that I am the Lord.’
Who are the Israel of God?
There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. {Galatians 3:28-29}
Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ*
For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN, so making peace;
And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby*
And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God;
[The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun]
{Ephesians 2:11-19}
Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
{Acts 10:34-35}
Again...
But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
For there is no respect of persons with God.
{Romans 2:10-11}
Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel:
*Neither because they are the seed of Abraham* are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but *the children of the promise* are counted for the seed.
{Romans 9:6-8}
Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
{Galatians 4:28-29}
For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and
upon *the Israel of God*
{Galatians 6:15-16}
And they [the Jew] also, *if they abide not still in unbelief* shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in *again*
{Romans 11:23}
For ye are all the children of God *by faith in Christ Jesus*
For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
{Galatians 3:26-27}
Does your enmity remain?
one day we who are in Christ will be fast tracked to Jerusalem. & there Jesus sets up His HQ ,for His Kingdom Reign. & there we will go to get our maeching oders . His Kingdom come. His will be done .
Let’s say we grant that god intends what you say: the apocalypse happens, Jewish people get right with god and build their kingdom and rule it without challenge on the earth until the end of time. Is the point, theologically, that they reside in Israel and gentile Christians mainly reside in other places on earth or in heaven? All of creation and human history ultimately theologically revolved around that physical detail? What is the ultimate point?
Ivanka trump is a convert to Judaism, like many other people throughout history and also nations in the Old Testament. How does the whole chosen people of god identity thing work?
Ruling an earthly kingdom on earth was the mistake that Israel/Jewish people made when Jesus came because Jesus said that his kingdom is not of this world.
-The kingdom is Jesus who is our king and the Jews are not going to have an earthly kingdom according to Jesus.