Should Christians Practice Yoga? 🤔
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- Опубликовано: 30 апр 2024
- There's a rising trend of "Christian yoga" practiced by believers and even offered in churches. Christians are embracing Christian yoga workouts and Christian yoga music. But can we truly divorce the spiritual from the physical? Are we inadvertently embracing pagan practices by participating in yoga? Or can we transform the practices into a form of worship to Christ?
On Wednesday, we'll delve into the spiritual implications of yoga and Christian yoga flow - and whether renaming it to "Christian yoga" changes its essence. Tune in for an eye-opening conversation!
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Thank you for making this video. I did yoga for over ten years and had Lupus and was medicated bipolar. The more I did, the worst it got. God gave me six dreams in a night about being demonized. When I was delivered, I was healed of both. Fully believe that was an open door in my life and haven’t regretted leaving since.
Mckinney clan misses you Josh! Hope all is well :)
Just a quick testimony:
My wife and I watched this episode and finished it yesterday. We both prayed over each other. We both did yoga before we got married and alittle in our earlier years.
Yesterday, we prayed through the deity names and not much happened, but the deity with the monkey face stood out to me. Then we prayed through the different phases and when we got the one about breathing I felt it. We prayed for deliverance. My breathing since then has changed. Throughout the night, I had weird dreams about things I have been anxious about in my life since starting yoga. And I felt the Lord releasing me from these different anxieties. Then this morning, I woke up and talked with the Lord, and I asked him which deity was connected to, and I realized it was the deity with the monkey face. My wife told me she had a dream/vision of a monkey evil Spirit trying to get in the house and her shutting the door. So then we prayed for that evil to leave our house and never return. This morning truly feels like a breath of fresh air.
I greatly appreciate the ministry y’all have here.
Praise God!! That’s wonderful news!
Thanks for telling it as it is guys!
God bless and protect you
Thank you, Brothers 🌹⭐🌹⭐🌹⭐
It's confusing trying to sort through the Biblical basis against yoga practices. This was incredibly clarifying, especially the Scriptures praising God above all other gods and there being no efficacy behind that if false gods weren't real. So helpful, thank you 👏🏼
Great job, brothers. By the way, those of us of a certain age will *never* be able to adjust to people saying "criss-cross applesauce." It's a clear generational marker. Maybe you know what we said, undoubtedly for many generations, but we don't wish to be "cancelled." 😀
You guys touched some sacred cows in this episode! I love it. The character and amount of push back tells me this is a very relevant issue to the body of Christ.
Did your Christ Command you to practice eating his flesh drinking his blood and worshipping his idol alongside setting his birthday with ancient pagan worship saturnalia. You lot make me laugh with your hypocrisy
So glad you all tackled this topic. It’s more prevalent or lax in the church than one may think.
I don’t know, to me it all depends on what is being invoked during the practice. Your metaphor of a non Christian taking communion falls short because when taking communion there is a clear designation by the one administering the bread and cup of what is happening. On the other hand if a non Christian just walked up and ate bread and wine with a group Christians at a restaurant they would not be drinking judgment on themselves because the context of eating the bread and wine has changed. It is no longer a religious service where the death of Jesus is being proclaimed.
This is the same argument Paul makes about the food sacrificed to idols that y’all mentioned in the episode. At a market Paul says it’s fine because the gods aren’t real, but he is hesitant about recommending eating at a pagan religious ceremony because of all that comes with it. It’s all about the context of the action. As well as the conscience of the one partaking.
If someone is doing yoga and none of the religious things are mentioned. There’s no spiritual element invoked at all. Then I think it’s completely fine. Indians don’t have a monopoly on bodily poses and stretches. Paul makes the same point about food in 1 Corinthians 10, the earth is the Lord’s and everything in it.
Only reason I’m commenting is because I think y’all may be unnecessarily binding people’s consciences and telling them something is wrong that scripture doesn’t say is wrong. And you may be causing people to live a life of unnecessary fear based on this type of logic. But y’all are faithful brothers and y’all’s perspective should be greatly considered. Ultimately everyone will stand before God based off their own decisions.
This needs to be shared! Are you guys planning to come out with a short we can share?
Thought about a thumbs up but then I saw your tattoo…naw…just kidding! 😂 love you guys
Another subject to which I have been very blind. Your video(s) have been very insightful. I am scientifically-minded, and had no knowledge of this spiritual root.
Maranatha!
18:33 I do have a question about motives in light of Romans 14 in dealing with eating meat sacrifices to idols. It seems that anything that is done outside of faith is sin. Doesn’t this speak to motive behind an action?
Greater are you oh God than all other Gods. Psalm 97:9, Psalm 135:5,6
Thank you, I’ve sounded the alarm on this in my area and to some leaders, their ears not open to the message 😢
From the interwebs:
Daniel David Palmer, the “father” of chiropractic who performed the first chiropractic adjustment in 1895, was an avid spiritualist. He maintained that the notion and basic principles of chiropractic treatment were passed along to him during a seance by a long-dead doctor.
That was his claim but he was probably lying and stole techniques from osteopathy.
It's much deeper than that but yes. He wrote about it in his journals. They are free to read on the internet library archives
@@user-mg1no2ux5gOsteopathy was also derived from spiritual "intelligent beings". Both men (founders) were spiritualists. Both men participated regularly throughout their lives in séances and occultic practices of the like. They saw it as ok.
Yeah. I’m sure medicine and all the pills we take too originally came from Druid-like partitioners who were also into some pretty demonic crap.
Osteopathy also has demonic roots. It’s not even trying to be hidden if you look up the source material from when it originated
Does anyone know if osteopathic medicine has any New Age beliefs or practices? I used to go to an Osteopath doctor. Even though it was relaxing, it weirded me out because I really didn't know what the doctor was doing to me. Some of it was stretching, but not all of it.
Best way to "talk" to yoga practicing Christians is to share this you tube link!!!
I don't do Yoga I now see that two of these warrior poses are incorporated into exercise routines I sometimes do. What do you think? Do I have to change to make sure I'm not doing a worship pose?
We would recommend that you pray and ask God to lead you
Ask Ken fish about chiropractic. I’ve been a life long chiro participant and when I heard his teaching was convicted deeply and repented and renounced it and after being delivered from the spirit attached to it I have no back issues for the first time in 35 years. So grateful to God for his mercy and grace on this issue in my life.
I agree with you but also know a lot of people who are "helped" by chiropractic. Did you find a better or alternative health solution?
@@kait-01751 for me personally I think there was a generational demonic thing causing my back issues because I have had no problems since renouncing chiropractic and being delivered. It’s been shocking to go from always need an adjustment to having no issues. God is good! I do basic stretches when needed now if I feel a little stiff but haven’t had and major problems.
Chiropractic has been life changing, in a good way, for me. Years of pain is gone! I’m a Christian, and don’t believe this is worshipping an idol. I’m open to scripture showing me differently though.
I was going to recommend that they do a show with Ken fish on the topic of chiropractic care.
I know that some Chiropractors are associated with using other spirits when doing muscle testing. Others are not. I had to be delivered from one I went to but the Lord said a different one I asked about was ok to go to
Can you add the link to the interview please?
We'll post the interview for Wednesday's show!
You Version app has incorporated this breathing technique on their guided prayer section. It would say “breath in Jesus and breath out worries etc.” I never felt comfortable about this, what do you think of this? Is it ok for Christians to do this breathing technique before praying?
Do other religions have a monopoly on breathing now? You should not walk around fearing everything. Breathing is breathing. God invented it. It is proven to calm you down, to relax your mind and body. There’s nothing more to it than that. Have confidence knowing that the Earth is the Lord’s and something that he invented like breathing, that is necessary for life, cannot be co-opted by another religion.
its called the spiritual formation movement, “contemplative prayer” is an aspect of it. it’s eastern mysticism, “centering prayer” . we are to be transformed by the renewing of our minds. fill our minds with the Truth of the Word of God, not empty it or “visualize” we can’t conjure up God, the bible calls that divination God speaks to us on His terms. we don’t “breathe in Jesus” you are right to question that, listen to the H.S. warning you
Peter and Paul tirelessly warn the believers all through the New Testament.
Hey guys, I used to do P90X and while it’s not centered on yoga, they incorporate it. I did it when I was a kid with my dad totally unknowingly. What should I do?
You’re ok man, just pray about it and repent from that stuff. Then just surrender over to the Lord and continue to follow Jesus. I used to do P90x as well. And now I’m on fire for the Lord. James 4:7 “Submit yourselves therefore to God, resist the devil, and he will flee from you.”
Nothing! You are just fine!!!
Other practices in this realm like Reiki, acupuncture or ayurvedic medicine would all be not something Christian folks should engage in -- yes? Any good resources to recommend for stretching resources since so many of these tied to what health care people recommend as part of injury recovery?
Look into “praise moves” the Christian alternative to yoga (not “Christian yoga”) it’s good for stretching. You can also look for “stretch and strengthen” Type classes
Scripture is clear on knowingly and unknowingly eating food sacrificed to idols.
There are so many fitness options and fitness classes and trends to choose from, it is fascinating to me whenever a Christian gets defensive about yoga and clings to it stubbornly.
Yeah because God forbid we stretch our muscles
@@andreeanasca8216Read "How Yoga Can Wreck Your Body" in the New York Times.
@@andreeanasca8216you proved his point, there are many other ways to stretch your muscles. So many different classes and programs out there, especially atm with flexibility and range of motion becoming big concerns of those who do stuff like weight training and lifting.
@@andreeanasca8216did you listen to the show? It’s not even a practice of stretching outside of the Americanized version. You can stretch with zero connection to yoga.
Can anyone advise on the practice of Christians using acupuncture?
If the system is based on moving life force through your chakras, it is probably not great.
Q I know a church where the pastor’s wife owns a yoga studio, she her husband the pastor, and his sister the worship leader all teach Yoga and do not call it Christian yoga. I talked to him personally, he is not convicted about it. Not sure, I can find anyone else to go talk to the pastor with me.
If you look at painted pictures of saints, especially in Orthodox icons, they hold a mudra hand position in the painting. So I think there is more to the hand position than the symbology in yoga.
I agree with you guys completely that Christians shouldn’t do yoga. But I’m really struggling with the idea that Christians can only be freed from demons if the person doing the deliverance knows the name of the spirit. Especially since that would mean that Christians cannot have full freedom in Christ without having extrabiblical information. How could it be true that the only way we can be free is if we look into the practices and teachings of other religions? Is the Bible not enough on its own?
They just go through the names because they know them. It’s not a formula nor is it required.
My young son, 9, goes to a special school that I recently discovered they use yoga with the children for times of stretching and relaxation. I had previously told the school I did not want my son engaging in it and have sent a link to this video to his class teacher asking her to please consider the practice and that I don't want my son doing it.
The reply I got was respectful but I am saddened that while my son will now be excluded no alternative will be provided.
My son will not understand why he will be excluded and my heart is heavy for him.
As the art teacher in an elementary school, I always got the Jehovah Witness kids whenever someone celebrated a birthday party in their classroom. Surely there must be an alternative for your child.
he is old enough to understand, our kids need to learn to stand alone, sooner the better
I do have a question about motives in light of Romans 14 in dealing with eating meat sacrifices to idols. It seems that anything that is done outside of faith is sin. Doesn’t this speak to motive behind an action?
Chiropractic care work popped someone's neck, and that resulted in someone being able to hear again. Then Palmer tried saying he could heal deafness with neck popping. Less spiritual background and more of an immoral background.
How about the "Move Mindfully" that they do at my school?
Pray and ask the Lord
Would not and never do yoga, due to its roots, and I can't do the pretzel move
How can two walk together unless they agree?
Love the video. 1 question: can a believer have a demon?
A believer can not be possessed by a demon, but they can be oppressed by a demon.
How far do you take this? Would you also say that all sports that are part of the Olympics should also be a no go for Christians? We don’t worship Greek Gods. What about Sumo wrestling? Or Tai Che? Or surfing? All these sports have roots in ancient religions and gods other than the one true God. I think there is an element of 1 Cor 10:25.
The difference with yoga is that the poses themselves communicate stories designed to worship Brahman and connect with Brahman. We will discuss martial arts in the coming weeks. Stay tuned!
Okay. Interesting. Will you also discuss the olympics and surfing?
Are chair exercises a form of yoga?
No, you’re good
I came here from listening on spotify and I never thought about this this in depth until now and thought this might be helpful in case you haven't mentioned it yet.
It's almost equivalent to a Catholic using a rosary to recite/pray/recall the gospel. Each bead represents a part of the gospel and that is how it is used.
Yoga, the way you're explaining seems equally the same yet with poses instead of beads with a different religion.
All martial artist do the splits with meditational practice similar to the yoga split.
We will be discussing martial arts in the coming weeks as well. Stay tuned!
Not all martial artists do the splits and meditate... I would say most don't. Plus take mixed martial arts into account which is totally void of spiritual undertones, no splits/meditation, just a sport.
I just have to ask, are these gods REAL spiritual entities or simply characters in an elaborate religion? I mean I can choose to bow in a named posture to a ladybug or a blade of grass but the only power each of those things would have would be in my mind so I would be simply delusional.
We address this in the episode. They may be made-up gods, but there are still demons behind them.
I agree with with almost all your points except the motive part.
If you mean by motive: people who have some understanding that this is coming from a false god or from a different religious practice but downplay the gravity of it or are in disbelieve, yes i can agree with that.
But if you mean by motive: someone who has no knowledge of anything and their friend is saying 'hey do this stretch with me', i would disagree. i feel like this can lead people to live in fear of everything because anything can be of demonic origin and we not know it.
Exactly this is classic culty discourse
Well stated
Except that yoga is from demonic origins. From good is good. From bad is bad. Woe to them that call evil good and good evil
@@grenadiercontracting I never called Yoga good. The only point im making is what if you out of complete ignorance do something presented to you as harmless. For example eating food sacrificed to Idols: lets say one day a witch goes into the store and offers a Hershey bar to an idol and then puts it back. then you walk into the store and buy that same Hershey bar, are you now gonna be demonically afflicted?
P.S I am talking about a christian and not a non believer
Complete ignorance to food sacrificed to idols is fine because food is not bad. Ignorance to worshipping false gods is a totally different story. Yoga It not a matter of conscience, and food offered to idols is.
Take for example that someone that actually practices yoga to the fullest of its potential, do you think they think the gods they are worshipping are good or bad? I would say they think they are good gods. But as a believer we know there is only one good God. So then the fact of the matter is one who knowingly practices yoga for a benefit will reap death, and so unkowingly is the same.
"Does the demon ever say you are pronouncing my name wrong." 😂 Had that same thought just before he said it. 🇳🇦🇿🇲
Similarly as the psychedelic video, I'm asking for clarification. I have listed to literally all of your podcasts and am usually in almost complete agreement ... but ... on this one, the conversation seemed to take the turn that Christians can "accidentally" be demonized if they do the wrong stretch in the wrong way, unknowingly being involved in yoga. I completely understand the connection of the religion side to demonization, truly but even Michael said he had some people pray for him "just in case" because of ignorantly dabbling years ago. This is the first time I've heard you guys use the "just in case" approach. Usually, your confidence in Holy Spirit seems higher than on this. I'm not even saying I disagree with your premise, it just seems to be a shift from the norm. I'd love a follow up on this one with some clarification.
The difference is that the poses themselves communicate a story and worship of a pagan God. Similar to how taking communion tells a story of Jesus death and resurrection and is a sign of worship. The guys aren't saying if you accidentally do a pose - but rather if you're practicing yoga (with or without knowing that these poses connect you to a pagan god), you could open a door to the demonic. Same idea with ouija boards sold as games. It's highly possible for someone to play it as a game without knowing it's an occult practice.
@@TheRemnantRadio That's fair. Thanks for the reply. That's helpful. Drawing a distinction by defining "the yoga" as the spiritual pursuit portion is helpful. It is also helpful to compare it to communion, which may have been done in the video and I missed it. Paul had some stuff to say about abusing that, even out of ignorance. Thanks again.
@@TheRemnantRadio there’s a difference between eating bread and wine with a group of friends and eating bread and wine for communion at church. What’s the difference? The religious context of the eating and drinking. A person doesn’t bring judgment on themselves simply for eating bread and wine outside of the context of a Christian religious ceremony where the death of Jesus is being proclaimed. The same is true for yoga. If there’s no religious element involved at all in the actions then it is simply stretches and poses. Once the religious and spiritual ceremonial aspects are incorporated is when it becomes problematic. That is precisely what Paul is arguing in the passages about food sacrificed to idols. Eating the meat in the market is fine, but eating meat when a person says this has been sacrificed to xyz god is not. What’s the difference? The religious context of the actions. Y’all are failing to make that distinction when you’re trying to make the parallel to communion.
My thinking is that a lot of yoga is so far removed from its roots that all intents and purposes, it's secular. This is how I think about the Christmas tradition. The roots of Christmas may have had pagan origins, but those pagan roots mean nothing to me. Christmas trees are pretty, they have no spiritual meaning to me. Yoga stretches are probably good for a body, they have no spiritual meaning to me. Thoughts?
The issue is that that the poses themselves communicate a story about and worship to pagan gods. Just as communion is a story about the death and resurrection of Jesus and worship to Jesus. It's not stretching that's the concern, it's the yoga poses.
@@TheRemnantRadio Thank you for the reply, I really appreciate it. I still have this feeling like yoga is not a big deal. However, I'll replace my weekly yoga workout with pilates. I'd rather be safe than sorry, and I was starting to feel weirdly defensive of yoga, which is probably a red flag.
Hey thanks for the video. I appreciate your heart in this and a lot of what was stated was very good. I have lived and ministered in these cultures (Hindu/Buddhist), and feel that there are some things to think about as we deem something demonic or sin. From John’s use of Logos to Paul’s use of the “Fullness” (Pleroma, Colossians 2:9), and the use of Pagan odes to Zeus (Acts 17:28) not to mention the reappropriating of pagan festivals such as Saturnalia (Christmas) or Eostora (Easter), Christian’s have used to contextualize the Christian story within the pagan stories. While everything that was stated here is true about the Hindu story within Yoga movements, they are irrelevant to those that use Yoga as a stretching routine. This same argument is what Paul is working through in 1 Corinthians 8-10, in which some things might not be beneficial and should be avoided, while eating foods sacrificed to idols is ok as long as your conscience (Motives) are fine, and unlike what was stated in this video, motives is not a western concept at all. It is deeply rooted in the depth of our sins as seen in the use of “Desire” (Epithumia) and the “Heart” throughout the Bible in the Old and New Testaments. Thanks again, I’m not trying to be contrary, but I think this kind of argument actually is western, and needs some thoughtful dialogue around the issue. Blessings!
Something interesting I've come to find out - we have believed for a long time that when we discuss a topic, we are going about it rationally. At least, that's what discourse, mock trial, debate has generally supported.
However, not long ago I heard a psychologist talk about cultism, political ideology, and how you can't seem to get people to think anymore.
Long story short, whatever belief we have, whatever "truth" we hold onto, it was birthed from emotion first. It's our logic that works the back end and finds means to justify it.
essentially if you believe it's wrong to kill animals for consumption, you didn't get to that conclusion logically. You had an emotional take on a topic and then your brain found neuropathways to justify your stance.
With yoga, or anything with the church, it may be wise to realize when discussing things with other Christians, their pushback or justification for not agreeing with us probably stems from an emotional / heart issue. And if you wanna combat it with logic? You mind as well be speaking Icelandic to their English. It an't gonna be received or understood.
So true. We like to think we are immune to this, that simply acknowledging it somehow protects us from it, but it doesn't of course.
What about Tai Chi?
and other martial arts. Many have roots to taoism, I believe, and have moves based on animals and 'elements' (earth, wind, fire, water). Chi energy is another energy that is not of the Holy Spirit so must be of other spirits.
We will be looking at martial arts as well. Stay tuned
@TheRemnantRadio When I was little I did instructor-led tai chi as a cool down exercise after our gymnastics rotations. The Holy Spirit has convicted me about my involvement, however involuntary, and I have contacted my church for some prayer on it. Thank you for this episode. I didn't realize how dark these previously seeming " grey areas" actually are.
No.
Now, I'll pull up the chair with popcorn.
@23:58 both Chiropractic & Osteopathy were developed by two different men who were spiritualists and who participated in occultic practices such as magnetism, energy healing etc..regularly. Séances were a normal part of their spiritualism. They used the term "God" and classified Chiropractic work as part of their religion practice to escape being sued for practicing medicine without a license. Palmer on one hand said he was the Head of that religion just as Muhammad is the head of Islam and Jesus is Christianity. On the otherhand he mocked the idea that it was an actual "religious" practice. This was from his own written journals.
His knowledge was recieved from a demonic source.
I love you guys but both of those "sciences" that are practiced now were 100% derived from demonic sources.
I've read the founder of Chiropractic works sources and he was NOT a christian and it was not a "thought" that just gave him the idea. He stated he got it from an intelligent spirit entity & likened that knowledge to the same type of "inspiration" as biblical inspiration. His son later clarified that the "entity" that presented itself as a deceased doctor happened at a séance at a spiritualist meeting and the instructions for the development of the entire practice was from this source.
I would not encourage Chiropractic work, even though most Chiropractics now a days do not acknowledge or discuss the origins b/c they dont agree with it, it is a fact. Palmer used God and God talk to promote his practice and make it appeal to a predominantly christian audience at the time. It is not wisdom to promote such a practice. Can it be redeemed? I'll leave that to your judgment as men of God, i would say no, knowing what I've read. Just because the knowledge of the body is recieved is accurate and "works", doesn't mean it should be practiced.
I personally think its dangerous to promote it. Just as demonic as Yoga.
I appreciate you talking about it. If anyone personally used Chiropractic work, i would go to the original source, DD palmers work (journals & books) read them, pray about it and let the holy spirit guide you as to whether you continue to go to the practitioner. To be fair, most practitioners don't even know the origins.
Yes! Josh argues against “pragmatism” all the time! Just because it works doesn’t make it safe.
@@oikodomay yeah for sure. Plenty of demonic healings happen. The devil works miracles too it's important to do the research and then ask the Holy Spirit what his will is. I firmly believe there are good things God created for us to utilize for healing that we are permitted to use and the devil hijacked for his purposes.
I also firmly believe, that there is knowledge out there that the heavenly father does not permit us to know and the rebellious sons of God (heavenly hosts) disregard his will and reveal that knowledge to mankind. It is up to us believers to take each thing, bring it before the Lord to ensure we are not bringing in a mixture that will unknowingly harm us through it's practice. 🙂
Exactly.
All the yoga I’ve ever done ended in “corpse pose”. Crazy now that I think of it.
Wait until you hear about Jesus who asks you to die with him…
True story, but He rose from death and so do we - forever.
Stretching doing the same poses as yoga = cool.
Being lead in yoga Stretching = bad.
But intentions don't matter? 🤦
The fact that Michael Miller shares casually the fact that he casted a demon out of his wife is wild😂😂
Thanks for sharing. Can see your point. Though Hollywood has really given us an incorrect perception of what the demonic really is - not all of it is the Exorcist. With believers, we're talking about oppression or affliction - not possession. Some demons will manifest as burps or yawning when they come out. People will experience feeling lighter/less burdened or their heart is less heavy. They are better able to pursue the Lord. Here's a previous episode that addresses this: ruclips.net/video/z-8sUr55W84/видео.html
@@TheRemnantRadio I understood. It was on a light note.
ABSOLUTELY NO!
How cooked is the modern church, that a subject like this needs to be discussed.. in Australia it’s fully cooked. Woke as. Better for believers to not attend.. in my opinion of course.
When someone is truly born again they are indwelt by the Holy Spirit.
The devil can't enter a person while God is there.
The carnal body is not born again, it’s the spirit. God dwells in the spirit of man. When you fornicate or sin in any other way you open a door that welcomes evil into your life. You hand over the authority to evil. It’s like handing over the key.
So exactly at what distance is the evil operating in a believer when one opens these doors according to you?
Pilates is a lot better stretching exercise than yoga.
Yet I'm sure some god is claiming those moves as well.
@@jeramysteele it’s based on animal stretches 🤣
@@leslieleeann 😱
Lol
@@leslieleeannvwhaat
One big question I have with these conversations is that there were stories of many of you called Christians being delivered from demonic spirit and I quote "and something came out of her".
How can a true Christian, filled with The Holy Spirit ve inhabited by both The Holy Spirit and a demon? I have to strongly disagree that a true Spirit filled Christian can have a demon in them, because you can both have the light and darkness in you.
Thanks for reaching out! A Christian cannot be possessed by a demon, but can be demonized or oppressed. Watch this episode for further explanation: ruclips.net/video/z-8sUr55W84/видео.html
Would love to see you invite someone from one of the Christian Yoga practices to get that counter perspective and hear how they may see this as a way to pray and honor Jesus with their bodies, you know the God who created our bodies. People can give things He created to other gods, and they do, but does a false god own postures and body movement? Seams we are giving false gods more power by acting this way. I'm sure it can be a stumbling block (just as wine can be) for people out of the cult, but does a false god really own the things we can use to honor our true God. If you posture to a false god, that is different than yoking yourself with, praying too, and meditating on Yahweh.
But why using postures created to worship demons to worship Jesus with our body ??
You can do many things, why using yoga ?? Plus, it's bring confusion, in the body, but also in the world because we continue to name it "yoga".
With all the postures (hundreds) that their gods claim, doesn't leave much room for us to worship the true God, who created our body, to honor and worship Him. Geez even kneeling, bending, bowing have all been used as postures to false God. So do we give up what is His just because others have used it for pagan practices?
Also Yoga means "yoked"...does not the Bible reference yoked? Can we be Yoked with Christ?
@@jeramysteele I don't understand why it seems so important to defend "yoga". Not doing yoga is easy and you can still practise stretching, exercice your deep muscle etc.
You can also dance if you want.
Why people go in an occult practise to grab some stuff that looks cool ?
I know many non christians who do yoga and they ALL submit themselves to some kind of spiritual stuff. Because it's not just doing postures, there is a series of postures, prepared by the teachers, some guidance, an aim to free people by "connecting". It's like with the golden calf. People wanted to have a god like in Egypt, they wanted to do the same thing. They thought it was a way to worship Yahvé and it was a huge mistake.
Yoga is like the golden calf. "Oh it's just a statue and we want to worship God, what is the issue ?".
@sawette23 it's not Yoga practice I'm defending. It's the idea of giving to God what IS God's. Giving up body movements because other false gods claim those body movements essentially is eliminating things our God created because another god creates a false claim to own those things. If something is healthy and has benefits and you use it to honor the God who created it, why allow that to be stolen from you do to a name or a false claim?
There is nothing wrong with Christians doing yoga for health. There is a difference between exercise yoga and religious. It's just stretching you aren't accidentally worshipping a false god.
And NO most people in India don't consider it worship.
Jesus lives ♥️ and is God 🙏🏻 Christ ✝️ and King 👑
Read "How Yoga Can Wreck Your Body" in the New York Times.
@@user-mg1no2ux5g read the Bible
Read the Bible.
Yoga is stretching and is recommended by doctors for people with arthritis and other musculoskeletal conditions.
Read "How Yoga Can Wreck Your Body" in the New York Times.
Yoga is much more than stretching. It may be beneficial for the body but rooted in unbiblical practices.
@@teresaknott7471 that`s like saying giving gifts for Christmas can be a kind thing to do, but it`s rooted in paganism so it`s sinful. To each his own. For me, I know Jesus wanted to overturn the system of legalism.
Yes he did, but he also tells us not to participate in practices to other Gods. It’s whatever one’s conscience allows and Holy Spirit’s conviction.
@@teresaknott7471 stretching is not a practice of another God, it`s physical activity. And yes like I said before, to each his own.
Jesus Christ of Nazareth...
Come on, guys. Really? Yoga is great for the body. The stretches, the eccentric pressure on the muscles, the breathing, etc. I’m sorry, but pagans don’t get to steel that from the Christian. If Christ can redeem me and you in all of our sinfulness, he can certainly redeem yoga from the stain of its historic roots! Under your logic, everyone who puts a Christmas tree up commits a sin because it was once upon a time a form of pagan worship.
The difference with yoga is that the poses themselves communicate stories designed to worship Brahman and connect with Brahman. Just as communion tells the story of what Jesus did on the cross for us and is designed to remember and worship Jesus.
I agree that if someone is doing a pose to channel Ramen, then yes that is bad. Yoga has poses with silly names that are also normal stretches that normal people do. For instance, what yoga calls the child's pose is just a back stretch, what they call a cat-cow is just a way to target lower back ligaments and is crucial for alleviating sciatica (relieves pressure on the nerve from inflamed muscles). I get that maybe some yoga guy believes he is channeling gods with these stretches, but for us normies, we are doing normal stretches that our God given bodies allow us to do. Yoga has soooo many positions... chances are you are doing unknowingly some of them when you warm up for any physical activity (rule #18 limber up). This video selected a few poses in a sequence meant to tell an ancient story, but there are so many poses that were not mentioned that are not called poses to most people, just normal stretching. The butterfly stretch, bending over to touch your toes, planks... all poses found in yoga. I can give no craps about yoga as a practice, but I don't believe that the devil can co-opt movements that our bodies were created to perform long before yoga thought it was cool...
@@brandongreen4303 I completely agree with you. Unfortunately, there are some Christians that don`t even go to the doctor when they`re sick because they believe getting medical care is sinning. With such closed minded people it will be impossible to have a healthy conversation where both parties are validated, heard and seen.
Read "How Yoga Can Wreck Your Body" in the New York Times. It presents the argument that most people should not be doing yoga, for purely physical reasons.
The word tells us that nothing is unclean to itself. The practice of yoga for me is not religious but a physical exercise. If my practicing yoga in front of you makes you weak then I won't do it in front of you. But we don't live in India. What matters is the heart's intent and not doing something in front of a brother that would make him stumble. So I would not do it in front of a person of weak conscience. Nor should you judge those who do engage who's conscience is not condemning them.
@@paulral That is purely anecdotal. What's a word to back that up that yoga poses apart from the religious spiritual meditative part is wrong. I think about what I said what I said. When Derek Prince was in the ministry some people were into the practice of yoga for spiritual reasons. People doing it for physical reasons for exercise apart from the spiritual and meditative aspect is benign. "Touch not, eat not, and etcetera it's nothing more than religious legalism which can lead to a religious spirit.
I’m no fan of yoga, but to you three hosts I ask this question: what’s the difference between that and celebrating Christmas or Easter? Both of those holidays/events have pagan roots.
No, they do not.
@@jenniferrhea409 one can simply Google “pagan roots of Christmas” or Easter. I want to hear what the boys have to say..
Yeah I was wondering that the whole video too. It seems the same logic can be applied to those pagan holidays and the pagan traditions associated with those holidays. Almost all the common traditions were practiced by pagans before there was a Christian church.
It's not exactly the same. Do a tree is first created to be a spiritual thing ? No. Yogas postures are.
Plus, on Christmas, the differents traditions are more cultural than spiritual. Yes, they chose this date where pagans used to celebrate things but it was the idea of evacuate those pagans fest. And as I said before, it was a lot cultural more than spiritual because it was the time of the year when the short day started to lose. In my country, France, at 5.30 pm it is dark in decembre whereas now it's not before 8pm. And in july it will be at 11pm. So. Just a fest to celebrate light. For some there were a god to worship but for other no.
Absolutely! It's where our heart and focus is. We can honor Santa or honor the birth of our Savior.
I would agree Christians should not practice yoga in the spiritual sense, but there is nothing wrong with doing the "poses" to get a good stretch. When i was in fire academy one of our recruits also happened to be a yoga instructor. Before our extremely physically demanding days, she would lead us in various stretches that incorporated movements from yoga. It was a great warm up for the day, nothing spiritual or weird, just stretching in ways that worked muscle fibers i knew not existed. If some guru or whatever uses these movements for nefarious reasons, that is on them.
In my younger years I also enjoyed training in MMA. Is that also wrong because MMA, although entirely non-spiritual at its core, has movements that come traditional martial arts, and if you go back far enough, traditional martial arts can have a spiritual component?
What about drums in music? Drums have been used in pagan idolatry. If i listen to some drums in music, is that a gateway to the sinister? No.
So yes, christians should not worship hindu dieties through yoga. But if you happen to incorporate stretching moves and positions into your workout because its a good workout, you are not in danger of joining the cult from The Temple of Doom.
i won’t do anything in the context of “yoga”
yoga IS spiritual the movements breathing etc. the movement stretching aspect has been normalized with older generations, but at my granddaughters 3rd grade class i caught the teacher introducing the pranayama (directed breathing with visualization)…. next my great grandchildren will be put in trance states and chanting mantras.
Should Christians practice Yoga?
Short answer: No
Long answer: HELL NO !!
I run marathons. Yoga is for pansies!
Omg I can’t believe the gaslighting and shaming in this video. No wonder people end up in therapy to heal from religious trauma.
The trauma is happening in the world of yoga, as multiple documentaries have come out exposing sexual abuse, cultic structure and financial fraud in the major schools behind the modern styles taught in the US. Look at Bikram just for starters. These documentaries are done from a secular viewpoint.
@@user-mg1no2ux5g this video is talking about stretches not about cultic schools. I recommend you watch the Hillsong church documentary to see how many Christian churches are actually cults and abuse people
@@user-mg1no2ux5g go watch the Hillsong documentary and see that some christian churches are a cult as well.
It’s sad that these guys say they are Christians. I’d be praying if I was this ignorant making RUclips videos
Calling out false teaching isn't trauma. It's being held responsible.
To me it sounds like you guys are limiting the power of Jesus Christ! I can’t trump God’s power no matter what I do! I just don’t have it! PERIOD! 1 Cor. 15:22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. If you give that “thing” power then you are enabling that “thing” to have power in your life. Sex, drugs, rock and roll, yoga name it whatever that is your god! You now have given that thing power in your life. However, being redeemed by the death and resurrection of Jesus supersedes sin and death as well as sex, drugs, rock in roll or yoga or whatever. 1 Cor. 15:28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. Maybe I don’t understand the definition of the word “all” but I think it means everything, right? Hence, why I think you’re limit what God can do or already did do back when He was raised from the dead! God put “all” things under His authority not mine. I can’t do squat! God can do whatever He wants!
What does what you just said have to do with Yoga? Are you going to redeem the occult? It’s not limiting God’s power. Read Matthew 13. Why are you trying to make an excuse to do yoga? You should think about that.
There is NO other GOD other then YAHWEH. There are no other "real" gods.
Isaiah 45:5
Deuteronomy 4:35
Isaiah 44:6
Isaiah 43:10
Isaiah 45:18
Isaiah 46:9
Yama is God of death. I suggest you not speak to lucifarian yoga people.
Is your God not omnipotent?
You might want to ask at least 2 questions.
Where did the levi tribe go.
And
Why didn't your Bible tell you how to keep your body fit.
If you think yoga is evil, you might not want to do any physical therapy cuz it's all yoga.
Altho, the lucifarians brought it to you, so what you know is corrupted.
Example your Incorrect definition of yoga. To yoke is to unite all that you are. Isn't your God omnipresent.
So sad you don't know where the priests of your God I am that I am went or what that means.
This is all corrupted lucifarian BS you're examining.
Physical therapy is not all yoga. 😑
@Future-zx9ts ha ha, yes, it is there are 8,500,000 positions in yoga. Silly people barely know nothing. Learn something already. They tried to get the insurance to pay for yoga treatments. They wouldnt so they changed its name to phycle therapy. Ha ha ha ha, you people know NOTHING.
@Future-zx9ts so silly people laying on your back is yoga. Standing is yoga. Stretching your fingers out is yoga. Breathing is pranayama. YOU KNOW NOTHING AT ALL. So sad what you think you know is directly from the corruption of the lucifarians.
@@Raphael-eu7cw I'm interested in what you're saying. Can you lay it out more clearly? I understand what you're saying: all movement is yoga. I agree with you. But what are you trying to say about the Luciferians? I can't understand that part.
@@Future-zx9tsunfortunately it is. Do some real research and look at the physical therapy stretches and the yoga postures side by side.
You will find that 95% (if not more) of PT came from Yoga.
I have very severe sciatica, and my orthopedic surgeon referred me to the health system’s physical therapy clinic. They gave me 10 exercises to do… We did them in my PT sessions, and also at home in between sessions.
Years later, I had a friend who taught me yoga to help me with my sciatica I’d given up several years earlier on PT, because I couldn’t afford it, and my sciatica foster up really bad again.
Lo and behold… The yoga postures that she recommended were 100% EXACTLY THE SAME as the PT exercises I’d learned 20 years earlier - in another state!!!! Later, I even found several posture books with the same postures/exercises!!!
So don’t tell me that PT exercises aren’t yoga poses.
Why would I receive spiritual wisdom from a man-child with "Basement Boy" posted proudly on his wall?
Might want to change your username, friend
@@jonathansaenger4819 My username is appropriate when commenting on the Babble-On Bros
@@jonathansaenger4819 Why? It accurately describes my personality.
I do have a question about motives in light of Romans 14 in dealing with eating meat sacrifices to idols. It seems that anything that is done outside of faith is sin. Doesn’t this speak to motive behind an action?