This song is about him being misdiagnosed and given psych meds and the effects it had on him when all the time he was sick with Lyme disease, and your right, the mental health care system is broken and needs to be fixed, loved the reaction , he has a wealth of songs out there, Insomnia is a very profound one as is Jenny and Screech.
@@ryderjohnson1293 he had stress induced psychosis and a series of health problems, allergies to %95 of what he can eat, damaged neuropathways in his brain which their trying to fix, and other immune related issues, he's undergoing treatment here in Canada for the next six months and getting better and doing well.
Been dealing with the same illness. 23 years of Lyme misdiagnosed severely I'll 2.5 yrs with major Neuro issues. This song is so intense. I hope he heals soon I am finally improving after phage therapy in Tennessee
@@neurogalmd No Problem. If you want another song that has subject mater in your vain , Chalk Outlines, specifically the live one is heart achingly beautiful.
This is the only thing I don't agree with bc what's the replacement for capitalism or a free market communism or socialism we have seen how poorly that works in history and don't give me it was done wrong bc a utopian society does not exist and due to human nature is impossible to achieve I understand the thought behind this but you give to much power and control of all of our resources to a select few
But Lyme disease is so commonly misdiagnosed bc it can present itself as so many different things and doctors don't naturally test for it unless you say something I got lucky my ex wife made the doctor test me after about 3 months of the crippling symptoms I got the treatment I needed and thankfully it was before any real damage was done to my body and I can't imagine going through that for that long man
@@JonSimon-l9s According to Ren (via some comments on another one of his songs), he doesn't necessarily see capitalism itself as the problem, but rather how it's run and who runs it, which allows as a pathway to greed (which is probably the sin that Ren hates most). Capitalism can be good, and it is good oftenly, but it can be easily abused to gain power. Although the pigs are references to capitalistic influences, it's important to note that the people are considered the pigs and not capitalism, because the people are what cause the problems, while capitalism just makes the problems possible. And of course, a utopian society is impossible (utopia literally translate to 'no place', or a place that doesn't exist), but now a days it feels like people don't even try to make the world a better place. It's not about a perfect society, it's about a good society, and with greed, it's a lot harder to achieve.
"It's no measure of health being well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"~J.Krishnamurti. 3 decades PTSD sufferer here totally agree with Rens perception.
I have complex chronic illnesses like Ren, and he captures the medical gaslighting that SO many of us experience so so well. I have had several doctors regularly dismiss my suffering as being psychological in origin, before they investigate other conditions that are actually the cause of my symptoms. So i think this goes beyond the mental health industry - it really is a commentary on how doctors are so often dismissive of our suffering (for whatever reason) which leads to delays in diagnosis, treatment, and support. And how medication is just so readily given, without concern about side effects and/or whether suppressing symptoms through medications is even the best and most appropriate 'treatment' for various conditions. This song really is SO powerful for the chronic illness community - it quite literally gave me a voice to express my frustration with the system to my therapist and I fully intend to bring it up to other doctors I have too x
Keep fighting...never give up...If you go down you go down swinging. I have a saying that I repeat in my head when my illness flares. "Im to tough to die". Our minds are more powerful than we think and you can will yourself through anything. Like I said before...Never give up!! Stay strong you cannot let the illness and or the Doctors win. We got this.
Medical gas lighting is on point. Hell, look at all the money big pharma is making butchering kids genitals and putting them on life long meds. These companies are deep in the politicians pockets pushing an agenda. Kids are only cannon fodder.
It’s truly tragic how doctors blame so much on psychological without looking into what their patients are telling them. The amount of times I was told by doctors that it was all in my head…..MRI proved it was NOT all in my head. As my current and amazing doctor pointed out, who wouldn’t be depressed being in so much pain that they are bedridden and have no quality of life.
As someone who went misdiagnosed for my entire life until I was 26 (2 years ago), Rens music really hits different. Its honestly helped me understand my own emotions about my chronic illness and whats been happening to me (I also never saw an artist with mcas who talks about it). I was given meds that made me worse and made me sicker, then the mental health issues were treated when they were really just a symtom of the actual main issues (seizures) that was undiagnosed. Doctors decided I had generalized anxiety disorder and everything was in my head, because I'm a female that was ot for me. Doctors see "anxiety" on your chart and thats it. Inwas having a seizure and a doctor literally asked me "Are you sure this isnt just an axiety attack."
Enjoyed your interpretation of this song. Jenny and Screech Trilogy would be next best port of call; bard like delivery acting out a horror story. I would love to see what you make of it. For singing Chalk Outlines with Chinchilla is as good as anything I have heard in a long time..
As a CRPS patient from four failed back surgeries I absolutely feel his pain and struggle. Being labeled a seeker and shopper almost needed my life. My diagnosis came almost by accident after more than 5 years of bagging for hope and being divorced. It’s humiliating to not be listened too. Add to that when family believe Drs over you it’s heartbreaking. I hate knowing so many people go thru this and tbh I’ve had to stop going to chronic pain support groups bc the amount of suicides got too hard to deal with on top of every thing else. The healthcare system is broken and the US govt has enabled apathy at alarming levels. “Sit their and tell me I’m sick w a smile on you face!”
I'm so sorry you know what that feels like autoimmune illnesses 32 yrs. Not being believed is the worst. Any if one more 12 yr old looking med students says " well you are a complicated case" I'm gonna swing. I AM A PERSON
I’m so sick of being dismissed because of the desensitization of the medical system and being brain washed to believe we’re all seeking even when we don’t ask for drugs. I’ve had lupus over 20 years. My fiancé has stage 4 cancer and I took him to a scan recently when a nurse pulled his Fentanyl patch and threw it away… because she felt he didn’t need it outpatient. It’s infuriating.
My exgf who had sickle cell was regularly told she was drug shopping when she was in the middle of a sickle crisis, as blood clots were being pushed through her lungs, through her bone marrow, causing excruciating pain. She ended up living over double her life expectancy. (Her parents were told she wouldn't make it to 20.) One of her sisters died in her 20s. She made it to her 40s, but it wasn't an easy life. The whole medical profession gaslit her for her whole life. Doctors don't like people with conditions they can't fix.
A good friend is my husbands throughout his childhood has sickle cell. He couldn’t get proper pain relief from the doctor, so he ended up self treating and dying from an overdose.
This is definitely my experience with the mental health industry. Don't address the issues, over medicate, kick out the door. The same "symptoms" were diagnosed differently by 6 different "professionals".
Many thanks fantastic reaction and insight many thanks ( chalk outlines live ren x chinchilla it's amazing) many thanks love and respect from the UK 👍👍👍👍👍👍🌟😀😀 amazing channel 👍
I really appreciate your openness. One of the many things I like about Ren is that he makes people talk about things that are often brushed aside, and he brings different conversation partners to the table. If find his quietness and statement that he thinks that it is all making sense, straight after his cry out as drowning 'without making a sound' so profound. People shut up and comply when they lose trust in the system.
Ren Hi Ren is pure masterful artistry! Chinchilla x Ren live version of Chalk outlines is hauntingly beautiful harmonies. Ren money game really i haven't found any Ren that I dislike! Hi Ren is just incredible go there next!
Beautiful reaction, thank you! And thank you for your awareness how a profit oriented healthcare system fails both patients and HCPs. More Ren, yay! I don't even know where to start. Chalk Outlines live with Chinchilla brings out his singing while exploring more of a mental health context, as does Diazepam. Depression and Insomnia were written during a time when he was severely ill. Then there's Dominoes, and Money Game part I and II, and I also love Heretic and Dear God, and and and...
I loved your reaction! Your insight is great for people. I’m sick like Ren for 23 years now and I’m a mystery you know what I mean. My head is making me sick just like that therapist said in the video. The chronic pain is harder to live with every single day. I’m still here and so happy I found Ren! What a God send he is! Refreshing!
Nice reaction! Ren was mis diagnosed and the treatments clearly didn't work as he got worse. He is in Canada getting treatment for Lyme disease so hopefully he will get better. Jenny and Screech trilogy(full version) is great story telling. Chalk Outlines(live)with Chinchilla is deep and beautiful:)
4:26 I'm not sure if he means it "MIGHT" be causing more harm than good; he made his opinion rather definitive. The recent scannd3meek is an excellent example. Mental health matters only when it's conducive to bigpharmaz goals
Respect for leaving. If you couldn’t adequately care for patients, it was courageous to leave under the circumstances…. Most people would stay, mentally check out and collect a paycheck until they could get a better job, or retire. Takes a lot of courage to do what’s right nowadays .
Ren has quite a few songs that 😢touch on mental health and his struggles. I recommend, • “Chalk Outlines (live)” ft Chinchilla. These are also beautiful songs that are often overlooked, but I highly recommend. • “Depression” • “Crutch” ft Bibi • “Penitence” ft Molly McKinna • “How to be me (live)” ft Chinchilla • “Diazepam” • “Humble” ft Eden Nash • “Insomnia” • “Dear God” • “Hold On”
Thanks for your insignt from a clinical perspective. It's a pity you felt you had to remove yourself from that industry as I think those practicing (and prescribing!) in heslthcare would do well to hear this message - there are 1000's of Ren devotees who have connected through his music expressing similar experiences/struggles and let downs, feeling unheard by those employed to listen and not just be palmed off with numbing meds or their experiences discounted with the "it's all in your head / you're just suffering stress. Things like that push us deeper into the Darkness that is hopelessness. I recommend Challk Outlines (Live) with Chincilla; Insomnia and Diazepam. I've not yet checked of you've reviewed Hi Ren - the raw exposure of himself that catapulted him finally after more than 10 years into getting some global recognition for his musical, lyrical and performance genius
I truly wish I could wax poetically about the struggles with all my diagnosis as succinctly, simply and to the point as well as he does. It refreshes my soul to hear a mental health professional acknowledge the current system is broken in so many ways. Here he is SPOT ON about how patients feel about their doctors, treatments, and seemingly lack of true compassion for patients. In fact, the frustration with this system, especially Doctors who sit across the table from you with glassed over eyes, sometimes causes me more stress and anxiety than other parts of my life. Hearing your analysis gives me a new perspective and also hope that there are professionals out there who do care, and one day the system may improve. Until then, we have been essentially marginalized by society. THANK YOU FOR THIS. Take listen to "Pocket Full of Pain" please as well. I will be following your channel closely now. Glad I found it. Really wish I had a chance to pick your brain about these issues since you seem to be logical, intelligent, open to intelligent discussion in a non condescending way.
I honestly think this i one of the most important topics of our generation. Thank you for helping put this in the spotlight and give such honest reaction, the world needs more of the medical community to help bridge that gap to people who are reaching out, in a more real and personal way than any textbook could teach. Thanks again Anna, much love from the Uk
Thanks for this reaction. Very lovely to see a reaction from a honest MD. I am 39, and I am an indie video game developer who diagnosed with OCD years ago, then ADD and recently with ASD, also experienced four episodes of major depression along the way. Like Ren, I am also dealing with an auto immune disease since the last 7 years. None of our biology was designed for this ultra fast, high sensory, globally connected, consumerist modern lifestyle, and the society labels the minority who falls in the last ranks of their rat race as "sick". Genes and neurological varieties are like random dices which adapt species for the ever changing conditions of our universe, but our society tries to "fix" and "eradicate" those dices unfit to this bullshit type of existence we only created a century ago. This is what neuro-diversity movement try to stand against and I notice that, a lot of neuro-diverse people have anarchist tendencies like me, because we are the most oppressed. I am taking therapy since almost 10 years and using medication not because I need a "fix", because I have no such power to "fix" the whole society.
Acknowledging the burn out is actually so reassuring based on my experiences. We (the patients), generally, based on my experience, don't blame 'you' - but blame the systems in place that just feel so contrary to actual help. Suggestion edit: The trilogy, Jenny, Screech, Violet, in order - whole thing in one preferably.
I subscribed... I love you and your insight on Ren... He is such an interesting person, I don't know if this makes sense at all, but I am in love with his brain.
Love this reaction. Ren's reaction is visceral, and raises empathetic anger in the audience. But we can't jump to blaming medical professionals for a broken system. They might be part of the problem... or they may be victims as well.
Big Pharma funding medical schools, research and the FDA is a huge part of the problem, you say the system is broken, and yet it is preforming exactly as designed. More people need to be made aware of the influence the Rockefeller Foundation has has on the medical and educational systems.
Doctors are victims as well for sure - most of them get extremely disappointed they are not allowed to respect their oath unconditionally, UNLESS proof of payment is possible. So in a short while, they either give up their job or they will just get colder and colder with their patients. The tick (read it problem) in this system is the insurance system and also people abusing the medical insurance system, throwing lawsuit for almost anything. Doctors in most evolved countries began to reduce amount of investigations to a person just to avoid not getting them (the patients) broke - can anyone even process that? We destroy the little good we have by allowing everything we build so far to be abused. IF tomorrow all the doctors will decide to go to strike to fix this will you cover their back? Cause all the big corpos will definitely put the cannons on them indirectly and some of them will also get licenses revoked without the slightest care, to be set an example.
Ren should be a class for every psychology and medical student. Maybe every high school student, at least Hi Ren, this might be a little much for the average high schooler but imagine what a high schooler can get from Hi Ren. And therapy and medical students, what an insightful and honest way for the future doctors and therapist to understand their patient. Not every patient is going be a Ren, but there is a part of Ren in every patient.
I've been doing a secondary deep dive on Ren-reactions after first learning of Ren. I watch Most videos on at least double play speed and listen to an average of more than 10 hours a day of RUclips mostly podcasts and educational video's. A common theme i see is reactors stunned or lost for words. Many of Ren's reaction video's are just long periods of amazement. There's a revolution happening right now. Not just in music but in society. Ren Harry Mack Just two examples to the wave of talent circumventing the industry and getting their props from the people directly. This wont stop at the music industry.
Lyme disease is a life long battle. Even with the appropriate antibiotic therapy the Neurophychiatric affects could be a reoccurring battle. As the antibiotics are not a cure. Thanks for reacting, this was a roller-coaster of a song.
Enjoyed listening to your reaction, really wonderful interpretation. It's so good to see Ren's music engaging multiple discussions on with mental health from across the globe. One slight cultural reference that might be missed, here in the UK the pig mask is a symbol that represents 'authority' mainly adopted from George Orwell's book 'Animal Farm'. To be derogatory towards the police you can use the term 'pigs' or you can say 'oink', you could also stretch the pig mask meaning to encompass the capitalist system as whole.
There's a lot behind the lyrics hidden within that you need to know about. I appreciate it this video, never thought I'd see an American ever find this artist, I love it, I love your channel; But it goes deeper. Far deeper than the top level of this psyche being portrayed. The rabbit hole runs deep.
I binged a bit of her channel after discovering it from the Hi Ren reaction, and must say it’s really interesting to hear a neurologist’s perspective on things. If you’re reading this, I encourage you to watch her Harry Mack reactions at the very least. It’s worth it. She has a Day in the Life of Neurologist video too that was cool to see.
This song hits so close to home with my experience. I’ve been in severe physical pain since childhood. Age of 10 I was put into the mental health system, diagnosed with depression age 10 and psychosomatic symptom disorder as a teenager. At age 38-39 I was diagnosed with hEDS, Fibro, CRPS, Dysautonomia, just to name a few.
I really like your reactions and insight considering your position regarding mental health and such. You have a very pleasant and soothing voice and i can hear just from your way of speaking that you have a very therapeutic understanding of these serious issues. Another thing i love is the fact that even though you might see people with very rough situations and mental conditions quite often, it still get's to you because you are after all a human being too and that gives us who don't trust the "system a bit of hope, it is after all very hard to watch people suffer. So, as someone who has struggled with severe depression for over 38 years now i have to commend you doing the hard work that inevitably will help us understand the human psyche a bit better over time. It ain't easy dealing with other people's misery, it has a tendency to drag you down if you are surrounded by negativity all the time, no matter how strong you are. I think REN is one of the most brilliant minds of the modern era when it comes to putting words on feelings that a lot of people have but may not be able articulate as precise as they need. Personally i'm no fan of this song, but Hi Ren and Chalk Outlines really hit me hard both musically and lyrically. Big love from Sweden
I will inform you that Ren was wrongly diagnosed with a number of mental illnesses for five years when he actually was suffering from lyme disease. He got worse an worse by his own illness and also by medicine he got for mental illness. He is still suffering from that and many of his songs reflects this. He has many deep thoughts on many different subjects. I find him to be a real truth teller. I hope you will check more from him. I suggest you check Chalk Outlines as next.
New sub... I feel fortunate myself that I'm not suffering like this.. my wishs and hopes are that there is a new generation of doctors like you. You are so human, thank you Dr.
I don’t have a musical video, but I have a song on RUclips called “Why”. Although it would be great to see you react to it, I just look for people to hear it for the message and motivation in it. Great reaction to Ren! He’s a very talented artist.
Good analysis. I've seen so many doctors in my life but have had maybe 2/3 that actually cared about me as a PERSON. The doctors that go into the "profession" because they actually want to help people, rather than simply for the money, usually end up blinded by their training. Osler, apparently, said that doctors should listen to their patients because they are telling you the diagnosis. Ironically, most doctors I've met have a narrow and limited paradigm, and anything that doesn't fit within it is usually discounted.
Dominoes - Ren it really touches on a different type of problem we face in society. id love to hear your thoughts on the perspective Ren brings on this one
We need more providers like you. To many providers are close minded and I don’t feel like they are truly out to help people but more along the lines of making money. Compassion goes a long way and when you work with providers daily you pick up on things
Funny, I found this. As a Vet I finally went to the VA, out since 2008. Saw my Vietnam Vet father get BS'd by the VA over agent orange. Upon my first meeting with a head Dr. about ptsd I figured give'em a try. After unloading what was on my mind, well, the Doc says "sounds like you got a lot of baggage to get over." WTF? After 2 combat tours and attached to state level DTF seeing tweekers kill kids, guess I'll just get over that. And people wonder why vets move to the country to get away from a fucked up system they fought to defend.
You do have a great viewpoint and hypothesis of what this song is about. I highly reccomend you look into his whole story. That includes the other bands and groups he has been in and losing hia best friend to suicide. He is a walking beacon of hope for us who feel that ending life is better than living.
My biggest take from this video is towards the end where he draws the analogy of exploiting the Earth's resources and medication drip drip effect on his body, both unchecked leads to a similar destructive state. Fortunately in Ren's case, he's in a much better place these days, the miss diagnoses in the past, his Lyme disease almost eradicated. Unique perspective reaction, I enjoyed it!
I been on this situation way to many times. I was explaining my mental health problems, how i feel how i cope in society and so on. And the 'mental health nurse' said i am ok as i have a wife a children. Here in Scotland we are basically sign posted to different places to 'help' i had been to all the places she suggested they didnt help. Then the nurse proceeded to tell me and added to my notes i am refusing to engage with services. At this point I walked out so angry. I find it hard to understand peoples behaviours and even i understood she didnt care.
A few years ago my thyroid went into hyper drive damaging a heart valve and and and causing thyroid paralysis. I was very fortunate to have excellent doctors. Having a medical staff that actually cares makes a huge difference.
Thank you for your reactions to Sick Boi, by Ren and Ren: Hi Ren. Another video you may want to React to is Ren X Chinchilla: "Chalk Outlines". "Chalk Outlines" is lighter but still thought provoking with beautiful vocals and presentation. As always Ren's guitar playing is superb.
Another interesting artist for you. This guy is VERY cryptic in the way he makes use of language, he will talk deep on a subject but does not do so directly. He has exoplored the humand condition for decades. Aesop Rock. Kodokushi is probably a good introduction.
In Lord of the Flies by William Golding, the head of the pig becomes an ongoing and important symbol. When Jack goes hunting, he is able to kill a mother pig. He cuts off its head, places it on a stick and the pig's head becomes an offering for the beast. The pig's head represents the evil and violence that lies within the boys, it also shows a loss of innocence in the boys and it represents the title of the novel, ‘Lord of the Flies’
Another great reaction I would suggest how to be me performed live with chinchilla. I am a new convert to ren's art and this one hits harder for me. Its a beautiful haunting song and a completely different style to this and hi ren. I would also recommend chalk outlines also featuring chinchilla.
I only recently found Ren, and your reactions, and I gotta, say, you nailed it on mental health care... My psychiatrist gave me some meds to start my treatment (she diagnosed me with schizophrenia, depression, OCD, ADD (or is it ADHD? English is not my native language, I might misspell these, sorry.)...I found that weird since I assume there are tests to reach diagnosis, but I went through none, so I take the pills, they make me sick, I go back and ask to change medication because what I'm taking is making me sick, she explicitly says "I'll give you these, but you should know...if these don't work, I see no other recourse than "hospitalizing" you (basically having me commited but she can't say they'll have me commited.) I never went back, and I'm afraid to try therapy again.
hello, I have schizophrenia and have spent most my life in mental hospitals. only now for 9 years have i been stable. it is very true. healthcare is very broken. the problem is making profit from of sick people. only way i can see how it can be fixed is if we remove the need for profit. much like how our police force has no need for profit as they are socialized and paid with our taxes. we need to also do the same with our healthcare industry. could you imagine how scary a corporate owned police force would be? yikes!
I hate to say it as a canadian that health care is public .it doesn't seem to have helped. There is to much stigma .I'm a failure because I'm depressed .sucks but true . I'm grateful I have family support it helps keeping me grounded.
I hope you don't mind me saying this but i see the pain in your eyes. I apparantly have the same look. We try our hardest to be positive and seem happy to those around us. Honestly, in this world, what do we do to make things back to how they were. Im not religious but im sure something up there has got to be better that this poisoned world ❤
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You're a doctor. Is it healthy to be addicted to Ren? What are the side effects and will I ever recover?
Fantastic comments my friend love it love ren many thanks love and respect from the UK 👍👍👍👍👍👍🌟😀😀 amazing 👍
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@@jukeboxdave6026 Ren is definitely something the UK can be proud about. I was born in London so I share your pride.
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I just discovered him about a week ago. I'm now completely obsessed. It's a little frightening.
This song is about him being misdiagnosed and given psych meds and the effects it had on him when all the time he was sick with Lyme disease, and your right, the mental health care system is broken and needs to be fixed, loved the reaction , he has a wealth of songs out there, Insomnia is a very profound one as is Jenny and Screech.
I think I read somewhere that he ended up with encephalitis from it, and that's why he is going through neural therapy now. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Oh yes, Insomnia! And Depression.
@@ryderjohnson1293 he had stress induced psychosis and a series of health problems, allergies to %95 of what he can eat, damaged neuropathways in his brain which their trying to fix, and other immune related issues, he's undergoing treatment here in Canada for the next six months and getting better and doing well.
Been dealing with the same illness. 23 years of Lyme misdiagnosed severely I'll 2.5 yrs with major Neuro issues. This song is so intense. I hope he heals soon I am finally improving after phage therapy in Tennessee
And the pig represents capitalism, think animal farm
The pig seems to be a reference to capitalistic influence in his songs. I think it is a reference to the pigs from animal farm.
Interesting! Thank you for pointing that out!
@@neurogalmd No Problem. If you want another song that has subject mater in your vain , Chalk Outlines, specifically the live one is heart achingly beautiful.
This is the only thing I don't agree with bc what's the replacement for capitalism or a free market communism or socialism we have seen how poorly that works in history and don't give me it was done wrong bc a utopian society does not exist and due to human nature is impossible to achieve I understand the thought behind this but you give to much power and control of all of our resources to a select few
But Lyme disease is so commonly misdiagnosed bc it can present itself as so many different things and doctors don't naturally test for it unless you say something I got lucky my ex wife made the doctor test me after about 3 months of the crippling symptoms I got the treatment I needed and thankfully it was before any real damage was done to my body and I can't imagine going through that for that long man
@@JonSimon-l9s According to Ren (via some comments on another one of his songs), he doesn't necessarily see capitalism itself as the problem, but rather how it's run and who runs it, which allows as a pathway to greed (which is probably the sin that Ren hates most). Capitalism can be good, and it is good oftenly, but it can be easily abused to gain power.
Although the pigs are references to capitalistic influences, it's important to note that the people are considered the pigs and not capitalism, because the people are what cause the problems, while capitalism just makes the problems possible.
And of course, a utopian society is impossible (utopia literally translate to 'no place', or a place that doesn't exist), but now a days it feels like people don't even try to make the world a better place. It's not about a perfect society, it's about a good society, and with greed, it's a lot harder to achieve.
"It's no measure of health being well adjusted to a profoundly sick society"~J.Krishnamurti.
3 decades PTSD sufferer here totally agree with Rens perception.
I have complex chronic illnesses like Ren, and he captures the medical gaslighting that SO many of us experience so so well. I have had several doctors regularly dismiss my suffering as being psychological in origin, before they investigate other conditions that are actually the cause of my symptoms. So i think this goes beyond the mental health industry - it really is a commentary on how doctors are so often dismissive of our suffering (for whatever reason) which leads to delays in diagnosis, treatment, and support. And how medication is just so readily given, without concern about side effects and/or whether suppressing symptoms through medications is even the best and most appropriate 'treatment' for various conditions. This song really is SO powerful for the chronic illness community - it quite literally gave me a voice to express my frustration with the system to my therapist and I fully intend to bring it up to other doctors I have too x
Keep fighting...never give up...If you go down you go down swinging. I have a saying that I repeat in my head when my illness flares. "Im to tough to die". Our minds are more powerful than we think and you can will yourself through anything. Like I said before...Never give up!! Stay strong you cannot let the illness and or the Doctors win. We got this.
Medical gas lighting is on point. Hell, look at all the money big pharma is making butchering kids genitals and putting them on life long meds. These companies are deep in the politicians pockets pushing an agenda. Kids are only cannon fodder.
it's like a psychiatric industrial complex going after your head & once you fall into their web they wanna keep you in till you're dead.
This right here. Same boat I love how some artists can give you the courage you didn't think you had
It’s truly tragic how doctors blame so much on psychological without looking into what their patients are telling them. The amount of times I was told by doctors that it was all in my head…..MRI proved it was NOT all in my head. As my current and amazing doctor pointed out, who wouldn’t be depressed being in so much pain that they are bedridden and have no quality of life.
As someone who went misdiagnosed for my entire life until I was 26 (2 years ago), Rens music really hits different. Its honestly helped me understand my own emotions about my chronic illness and whats been happening to me (I also never saw an artist with mcas who talks about it).
I was given meds that made me worse and made me sicker, then the mental health issues were treated when they were really just a symtom of the actual main issues (seizures) that was undiagnosed. Doctors decided I had generalized anxiety disorder and everything was in my head, because I'm a female that was ot for me. Doctors see "anxiety" on your chart and thats it. Inwas having a seizure and a doctor literally asked me "Are you sure this isnt just an axiety attack."
Enjoyed your interpretation of this song. Jenny and Screech Trilogy would be next best port of call; bard like delivery acting out a horror story. I would love to see what you make of it. For singing Chalk Outlines with Chinchilla is as good as anything I have heard in a long time..
I couldn't agree more 👍
Jenny and Screech (Full) has all three videos together to keep the continuity.
Yes, yes, you must!
I agree, though the money game songs would be good as well. What a great artist
As a CRPS patient from four failed back surgeries I absolutely feel his pain and struggle. Being labeled a seeker and shopper almost needed my life. My diagnosis came almost by accident after more than 5 years of bagging for hope and being divorced. It’s humiliating to not be listened too. Add to that when family believe Drs over you it’s heartbreaking. I hate knowing so many people go thru this and tbh I’ve had to stop going to chronic pain support groups bc the amount of suicides got too hard to deal with on top of every thing else. The healthcare system is broken and the US govt has enabled apathy at alarming levels. “Sit their and tell me I’m sick w a smile on you face!”
I'm so sorry you know what that feels like autoimmune illnesses 32 yrs. Not being believed is the worst. Any if one more 12 yr old looking med students says " well you are a complicated case" I'm gonna swing. I AM A PERSON
I’m so sick of being dismissed because of the desensitization of the medical system and being brain washed to believe we’re all seeking even when we don’t ask for drugs. I’ve had lupus over 20 years. My fiancé has stage 4 cancer and I took him to a scan recently when a nurse pulled his Fentanyl patch and threw it away… because she felt he didn’t need it outpatient. It’s infuriating.
My exgf who had sickle cell was regularly told she was drug shopping when she was in the middle of a sickle crisis, as blood clots were being pushed through her lungs, through her bone marrow, causing excruciating pain. She ended up living over double her life expectancy. (Her parents were told she wouldn't make it to 20.) One of her sisters died in her 20s. She made it to her 40s, but it wasn't an easy life. The whole medical profession gaslit her for her whole life. Doctors don't like people with conditions they can't fix.
A good friend is my husbands throughout his childhood has sickle cell. He couldn’t get proper pain relief from the doctor, so he ended up self treating and dying from an overdose.
This is definitely my experience with the mental health industry. Don't address the issues, over medicate, kick out the door. The same "symptoms" were diagnosed differently by 6 different "professionals".
next please Ren x Chinchilla - How To Be Me 💗Peace and love from Bavaria!
2nd that ❤❤
The live version!
Agreed! Yes, the Live version
Actually: that would be Chalk Outlines Live by Ren X Chinchilla
Many thanks fantastic reaction and insight many thanks ( chalk outlines live ren x chinchilla it's amazing) many thanks love and respect from the UK 👍👍👍👍👍👍🌟😀😀 amazing channel 👍
I really appreciate your openness. One of the many things I like about Ren is that he makes people talk about things that are often brushed aside, and he brings different conversation partners to the table. If find his quietness and statement that he thinks that it is all making sense, straight after his cry out as drowning 'without making a sound' so profound. People shut up and comply when they lose trust in the system.
“He has a lot of insight”.
Yes, m’am…… REN certainly does!
He’s a wise young man with an old soul!
Thank you for the reaction. 😊
Best review of Sic Boi I've heard.
I enjoyed you talking about how hard it is to avoid being part of the problem.
Unique insight. Thank you.
Ren Hi Ren is pure masterful artistry!
Chinchilla x Ren live version of Chalk outlines is hauntingly beautiful harmonies. Ren money game really i haven't found any Ren that I dislike! Hi Ren is just incredible go there next!
Beautiful reaction, thank you! And thank you for your awareness how a profit oriented healthcare system fails both patients and HCPs. More Ren, yay! I don't even know where to start. Chalk Outlines live with Chinchilla brings out his singing while exploring more of a mental health context, as does Diazepam. Depression and Insomnia were written during a time when he was severely ill. Then there's Dominoes, and Money Game part I and II, and I also love Heretic and Dear God, and and and...
Great reaction. Your words at the end were on point and just as valid as Ren’s lyrical content.
I loved your reaction! Your insight is great for people. I’m sick like Ren for 23 years now and I’m a mystery you know what I mean. My head is making me sick just like that therapist said in the video. The chronic pain is harder to live with every single day. I’m still here and so happy I found Ren! What a God send he is! Refreshing!
Nice reaction! Ren was mis diagnosed and the treatments clearly didn't work as he got worse. He is in Canada getting treatment for Lyme disease so hopefully he will get better. Jenny and Screech trilogy(full version) is great story telling. Chalk Outlines(live)with Chinchilla is deep and beautiful:)
Ren is dope. Your reaction is dope! Ren's song Chalk Outlines live is really awesome.
Thumbs up !..
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I'm not sure if he means it "MIGHT" be causing more harm than good; he made his opinion rather definitive. The recent scannd3meek is an excellent example.
Mental health matters only when it's conducive to bigpharmaz goals
Chalk Outlines is definitely amazing... Rather dark, what it feels like being dependent on antidepressants (or that's the way I understand it).
Respect for leaving. If you couldn’t adequately care for patients, it was courageous to leave under the circumstances…. Most people would stay, mentally check out and collect a paycheck until they could get a better job, or retire.
Takes a lot of courage to do what’s right nowadays .
Ren has quite a few songs that 😢touch on mental health and his struggles. I recommend,
• “Chalk Outlines (live)” ft Chinchilla.
These are also beautiful songs that are often overlooked, but I highly recommend.
• “Depression”
• “Crutch” ft Bibi
• “Penitence” ft Molly McKinna
• “How to be me (live)” ft Chinchilla
• “Diazepam”
• “Humble” ft Eden Nash
• “Insomnia”
• “Dear God”
• “Hold On”
Thanks for your insignt from a clinical perspective. It's a pity you felt you had to remove yourself from that industry as I think those practicing (and prescribing!) in heslthcare would do well to hear this message - there are 1000's of Ren devotees who have connected through his music expressing similar experiences/struggles and let downs, feeling unheard by those employed to listen and not just be palmed off with numbing meds or their experiences discounted with the "it's all in your head / you're just suffering stress. Things like that push us deeper into the Darkness that is hopelessness.
I recommend Challk Outlines (Live) with Chincilla; Insomnia and Diazepam. I've not yet checked of you've reviewed Hi Ren - the raw exposure of himself that catapulted him finally after more than 10 years into getting some global recognition for his musical, lyrical and performance genius
REN truly resonates with me… this especially with what I deal with through the VA… my personal battle is definitely at its worst right now.
The power of those vocal touch your soul. A true powerhouse
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I think chalk outlines would be another song that touches on the medical aspect, but its very different than hi Ren or sick boi.
I truly wish I could wax poetically about the struggles with all my diagnosis as succinctly, simply and to the point as well as he does. It refreshes my soul to hear a mental health professional acknowledge the current system is broken in so many ways. Here he is SPOT ON about how patients feel about their doctors, treatments, and seemingly lack of true compassion for patients. In fact, the frustration with this system, especially Doctors who sit across the table from you with glassed over eyes, sometimes causes me more stress and anxiety than other parts of my life. Hearing your analysis gives me a new perspective and also hope that there are professionals out there who do care, and one day the system may improve. Until then, we have been essentially marginalized by society. THANK YOU FOR THIS. Take listen to "Pocket Full of Pain" please as well. I will be following your channel closely now. Glad I found it. Really wish I had a chance to pick your brain about these issues since you seem to be logical, intelligent, open to intelligent discussion in a non condescending way.
Like your reaction. Long part of the health system. Retired now, but I certainly get the point of what both Ren and you are saying.
Anna you're amazing, love your insights.
Great reaction! Chalk Outlines next.
Nice reaction love. Watch more Ren, come on down the rabbit hole.
'Losing It' for a little much needed light relief x
Thank you for supporting Ren. Subscribed to support you.💕👍🦇
I honestly think this i one of the most important topics of our generation. Thank you for helping put this in the spotlight and give such honest reaction, the world needs more of the medical community to help bridge that gap to people who are reaching out, in a more real and personal way than any textbook could teach. Thanks again Anna, much love from the Uk
Great reaction. Very spot on. Thanks! You might like "Chalk Outlines" the live version is my recommendation.
Thanks for this reaction. Very lovely to see a reaction from a honest MD. I am 39, and I am an indie video game developer who diagnosed with OCD years ago, then ADD and recently with ASD, also experienced four episodes of major depression along the way. Like Ren, I am also dealing with an auto immune disease since the last 7 years. None of our biology was designed for this ultra fast, high sensory, globally connected, consumerist modern lifestyle, and the society labels the minority who falls in the last ranks of their rat race as "sick". Genes and neurological varieties are like random dices which adapt species for the ever changing conditions of our universe, but our society tries to "fix" and "eradicate" those dices unfit to this bullshit type of existence we only created a century ago. This is what neuro-diversity movement try to stand against and I notice that, a lot of neuro-diverse people have anarchist tendencies like me, because we are the most oppressed. I am taking therapy since almost 10 years and using medication not because I need a "fix", because I have no such power to "fix" the whole society.
Your commentary and compassion is unmatched!!! You are very intelligent, and you’re amazing at these videos!!! I definitely subscribed.😀😎
Ren Depression, Insomnia, Dear God. Crutch please... I think you can add a lot with your insight with these songs.
❤👍🔥😊ty for reacting to sick boi....i love his work and your insight.
Acknowledging the burn out is actually so reassuring based on my experiences. We (the patients), generally, based on my experience, don't blame 'you' - but blame the systems in place that just feel so contrary to actual help. Suggestion edit: The trilogy, Jenny, Screech, Violet, in order - whole thing in one preferably.
What a great channel, again. Your perspective is so rare an necessary, thank you.
Excellent insight and review. You are thoughtful. Ren is genius.
I subscribed... I love you and your insight on Ren... He is such an interesting person, I don't know if this makes sense at all, but I am in love with his brain.
Good on you for seeing that the system was messed up and making a change. Thats not an ez thing to do by any means more power to you girl!
Love this reaction. Ren's reaction is visceral, and raises empathetic anger in the audience. But we can't jump to blaming medical professionals for a broken system. They might be part of the problem... or they may be victims as well.
Big Pharma funding medical schools, research and the FDA is a huge part of the problem, you say the system is broken, and yet it is preforming exactly as designed. More people need to be made aware of the influence the Rockefeller Foundation has has on the medical and educational systems.
From what I understand the pig represents greed, from "Animal Farm", seems like that is at the root of all of these problems.
Doctors are victims as well for sure - most of them get extremely disappointed they are not allowed to respect their oath unconditionally, UNLESS proof of payment is possible. So in a short while, they either give up their job or they will just get colder and colder with their patients. The tick (read it problem) in this system is the insurance system and also people abusing the medical insurance system, throwing lawsuit for almost anything. Doctors in most evolved countries began to reduce amount of investigations to a person just to avoid not getting them (the patients) broke - can anyone even process that? We destroy the little good we have by allowing everything we build so far to be abused. IF tomorrow all the doctors will decide to go to strike to fix this will you cover their back? Cause all the big corpos will definitely put the cannons on them indirectly and some of them will also get licenses revoked without the slightest care, to be set an example.
So glad you are discussing this ❤your channel
Ren should be a class for every psychology and medical student.
Maybe every high school student, at least Hi Ren, this might be a little much for the average high schooler but imagine what a high schooler can get from Hi Ren.
And therapy and medical students, what an insightful and honest way for the future doctors and therapist to understand their patient. Not every patient is going be a Ren, but there is a part of Ren in every patient.
I've been doing a secondary deep dive on Ren-reactions after first learning of Ren. I watch Most videos on at least double play speed and listen to an average of more than 10 hours a day of RUclips mostly podcasts and educational video's.
A common theme i see is reactors stunned or lost for words. Many of Ren's reaction video's are just long periods of amazement.
There's a revolution happening right now. Not just in music but in society.
Ren
Harry Mack
Just two examples to the wave of talent circumventing the industry and getting their props from the people directly. This wont stop at the music industry.
Lyme disease is a life long battle. Even with the appropriate antibiotic therapy the Neurophychiatric affects could be a reoccurring battle. As the antibiotics are not a cure. Thanks for reacting, this was a roller-coaster of a song.
Another , fantastic review , love it
Enjoyed listening to your reaction, really wonderful interpretation. It's so good to see Ren's music engaging multiple discussions on with mental health from across the globe. One slight cultural reference that might be missed, here in the UK the pig mask is a symbol that represents 'authority' mainly adopted from George Orwell's book 'Animal Farm'. To be derogatory towards the police you can use the term 'pigs' or you can say 'oink', you could also stretch the pig mask meaning to encompass the capitalist system as whole.
There's a lot behind the lyrics hidden within that you need to know about. I appreciate it this video, never thought I'd see an American ever find this artist, I love it, I love your channel; But it goes deeper. Far deeper than the top level of this psyche being portrayed. The rabbit hole runs deep.
This was awesome. You could tell that the lyrics touched you and thats the best type of music. Keep it up. We are all awakening at different times
Amazing video
I binged a bit of her channel after discovering it from the Hi Ren reaction, and must say it’s really interesting to hear a neurologist’s perspective on things. If you’re reading this, I encourage you to watch her Harry Mack reactions at the very least. It’s worth it.
She has a Day in the Life of Neurologist video too that was cool to see.
Straight 🔥🔥
Informative reaction. Thank you.
This song hits so close to home with my experience. I’ve been in severe physical pain since childhood. Age of 10 I was put into the mental health system, diagnosed with depression age 10 and psychosomatic symptom disorder as a teenager. At age 38-39 I was diagnosed with hEDS, Fibro, CRPS, Dysautonomia, just to name a few.
Great reaction Anna. Your background offers some excellent insight. I would recommend Chalk Outlines next. Look forward to it.
I really like your reactions and insight considering your position regarding mental health and such.
You have a very pleasant and soothing voice and i can hear just from your way of speaking that you have a very therapeutic understanding of these serious issues.
Another thing i love is the fact that even though you might see people with very rough situations and mental conditions quite often, it still get's to you because you are after all a human being too and that gives us who don't trust the "system a bit of hope, it is after all very hard to watch people suffer.
So, as someone who has struggled with severe depression for over 38 years now i have to commend you doing the hard work that inevitably will help us understand the human psyche a bit better over time.
It ain't easy dealing with other people's misery, it has a tendency to drag you down if you are surrounded by negativity all the time, no matter how strong you are.
I think REN is one of the most brilliant minds of the modern era when it comes to putting words on feelings that a lot of people have but may not be able articulate as precise as they need.
Personally i'm no fan of this song, but Hi Ren and Chalk Outlines really hit me hard both musically and lyrically.
Big love from Sweden
I will inform you that Ren was wrongly diagnosed with a number of mental illnesses for five years when he actually was suffering from lyme disease. He got worse an worse by his own illness and also by medicine he got for mental illness. He is still suffering from that and many of his songs reflects this. He has many deep thoughts on many different subjects. I find him to be a real truth teller. I hope you will check more from him. I suggest you check Chalk Outlines as next.
How did you get this information? Just curious. I also have Lyme disease.
@@chaeporter8280 because it’s literally in the words in this song
@@chaeporter8280 He has talked about it before, you can find it pretty easily.
@@chaeporter8280"Sick Boi, Sick boi, *Bitten by a tick boi*
He mentioned being bit by a tick at the beginning of this song.
How To Be Me and Chalk Outlines (LIVE) with Chinchilla would be excellent choices for your channel. Thanks for this video.
Wow! At first sight i've thought that you are the doctor in the MV ^^
I think you are a beautiful soul and am glad you are a doctor.
New sub... I feel fortunate myself that I'm not suffering like this.. my wishs and hopes are that there is a new generation of doctors like you. You are so human, thank you Dr.
I don’t have a musical video, but I have a song on RUclips called “Why”. Although it would be great to see you react to it, I just look for people to hear it for the message and motivation in it. Great reaction to Ren! He’s a very talented artist.
Loving your Ren journey. Look forward to the next one.
Good video, thank you so much
Good analysis. I've seen so many doctors in my life but have had maybe 2/3 that actually cared about me as a PERSON.
The doctors that go into the "profession" because they actually want to help people, rather than simply for the money, usually end up blinded by their training. Osler, apparently, said that doctors should listen to their patients because they are telling you the diagnosis. Ironically, most doctors I've met have a narrow and limited paradigm, and anything that doesn't fit within it is usually discounted.
Dominoes - Ren
it really touches on a different type of problem we face in society. id love to hear your thoughts on the perspective Ren brings on this one
We need more providers like you. To many providers are close minded and I don’t feel like they are truly out to help people but more along the lines of making money. Compassion goes a long way and when you work with providers daily you pick up on things
Funny, I found this. As a Vet I finally went to the VA, out since 2008. Saw my Vietnam Vet father get BS'd by the VA over agent orange. Upon my first meeting with a head Dr. about ptsd I figured give'em a try. After unloading what was on my mind, well, the Doc says "sounds like you got a lot of baggage to get over." WTF? After 2 combat tours and attached to state level DTF seeing tweekers kill kids, guess I'll just get over that. And people wonder why vets move to the country to get away from a fucked up system they fought to defend.
Outstanding!
You do have a great viewpoint and hypothesis of what this song is about. I highly reccomend you look into his whole story. That includes the other bands and groups he has been in and losing hia best friend to suicide. He is a walking beacon of hope for us who feel that ending life is better than living.
My biggest take from this video is towards the end where he draws the analogy of exploiting the Earth's resources and medication drip drip effect on his body, both unchecked leads to a similar destructive state. Fortunately in Ren's case, he's in a much better place these days, the miss diagnoses in the past, his Lyme disease almost eradicated. Unique perspective reaction, I enjoyed it!
I been on this situation way to many times. I was explaining my mental health problems, how i feel how i cope in society and so on. And the 'mental health nurse' said i am ok as i have a wife a children.
Here in Scotland we are basically sign posted to different places to 'help' i had been to all the places she suggested they didnt help. Then the nurse proceeded to tell me and added to my notes i am refusing to engage with services. At this point I walked out so angry.
I find it hard to understand peoples behaviours and even i understood she didnt care.
A few years ago my thyroid went into hyper drive damaging a heart valve and and and causing thyroid paralysis. I was very fortunate to have excellent doctors. Having a medical staff that actually cares makes a huge difference.
Thank you for your reactions to Sick Boi, by Ren and Ren: Hi Ren. Another video you may want to React to is Ren X Chinchilla: "Chalk Outlines". "Chalk Outlines" is lighter but still thought provoking with beautiful vocals and presentation. As always Ren's guitar playing is superb.
Another interesting artist for you. This guy is VERY cryptic in the way he makes use of language, he will talk deep on a subject but does not do so directly. He has exoplored the humand condition for decades. Aesop Rock. Kodokushi is probably a good introduction.
In Lord of the Flies by William Golding, the head of the pig becomes an ongoing and important symbol. When Jack goes hunting, he is able to kill a mother pig. He cuts off its head, places it on a stick and the pig's head becomes an offering for the beast. The pig's head represents the evil and violence that lies within the boys, it also shows a loss of innocence in the boys and it represents the title of the novel, ‘Lord of the Flies’
As a mental health patient i love Ren's commentary, and you. Good stuff
I don’t know how but this is the only outlet which you can still experience Sickboi since Kujo had it copyright striked. Wow
i've only heard this song and Hi Ren. and he's quickly becoming one of my favorite artists.
Nice analysis. I don't have time to get deep atm but I think the Pig Mask represents The System (The Capitalist System) that you speak of.
Thank you for your integrity 💖
It is just a little spooky to me how much you look like the healer in this, ouch, but props for reacting honestly, Ren demands honesty
Sad this has been been taken down, rens reaction is crazy
Hi doc, try this one - Ren - It's Alright - I`m sure you will appreciate this! Dominoes and at all - Ren is a great rabbit hole to dig in...
Another great reaction I would suggest how to be me performed live with chinchilla. I am a new convert to ren's art and this one hits harder for me. Its a beautiful haunting song and a completely different style to this and hi ren.
I would also recommend chalk outlines also featuring chinchilla.
RENs straight up lyrical genius 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I only recently found Ren, and your reactions, and I gotta, say, you nailed it on mental health care...
My psychiatrist gave me some meds to start my treatment (she diagnosed me with schizophrenia, depression, OCD, ADD (or is it ADHD? English is not my native language, I might misspell these, sorry.)...I found that weird since I assume there are tests to reach diagnosis, but I went through none, so I take the pills, they make me sick, I go back and ask to change medication because what I'm taking is making me sick, she explicitly says "I'll give you these, but you should know...if these don't work, I see no other recourse than "hospitalizing" you (basically having me commited but she can't say they'll have me commited.)
I never went back, and I'm afraid to try therapy again.
He's definitely got insight. They miss diagnosed him for years and cause serious damage.
I recommend chalk outlines too.
hello, I have schizophrenia and have spent most my life in mental hospitals. only now for 9 years have i been stable. it is very true. healthcare is very broken. the problem is making profit from of sick people. only way i can see how it can be fixed is if we remove the need for profit. much like how our police force has no need for profit as they are socialized and paid with our taxes. we need to also do the same with our healthcare industry. could you imagine how scary a corporate owned police force would be? yikes!
I hate to say it as a canadian that health care is public .it doesn't seem to have helped. There is to much stigma .I'm a failure because I'm depressed .sucks but true . I'm grateful I have family support it helps keeping me grounded.
You will love Rens Money Game parts 1 and 2 . The system is broken all over the world unfortunately 😢 loved your reaction!!
“It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society.”
Ren is really good. I like him very much, so talented..
I hope you don't mind me saying this but i see the pain in your eyes. I apparantly have the same look. We try our hardest to be positive and seem happy to those around us. Honestly, in this world, what do we do to make things back to how they were. Im not religious but im sure something up there has got to be better that this poisoned world ❤