The fact Joe basically wanted to save reverse flash more than anyone when he was basically willing to kill a guy that even looked like thawne in season 2 is so dumb.
@@thomasraines1396 like bro how is he going to say “if you let thawne die you won’t have to worry about him tearing this family apart” or something like that when he literally murdered Barry’s mom and killed you and has killed your sons future daughter (I know he didn’t kill her but it was all apart of his plan to get free so technically it was his fault/doing by making them destroy the dagger. My point being is this just doesn’t make sense coming from his character after all the crap thawne did to him
@@zuckleyplays4120 REMEMBER BACK WHEN OLIVER FORGIVE SLADE & ENCOURAGE HIM TO SAVE HIS SON JOE BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT UNDER ALL THE MIRAKURU HE WAS HIS CLOSEST FRIEND & HIS MENTOR *THOSE TIMES WERE BETTER & THEY ARE LONG GONE ON THE ARROWVERSE*
When Iris said "Your articles speak to people because you're one of them," I felt that. It's a nod to the well known principle that you only have to be human to be considered a writer. One of the Best lines of dialogue ever written for this show, only second to when Savitar said "It's Savin time" in Season 3
Nah I prefer that time when Iris stole Barry's power and went like "It's Irisin' time" and lectured a tsunami out of the city because she is Iris and can't be wrong or useless
Problem is the show's version of Thawne is overused and after Season 1 Letscher should have played him permanently. They know he's not Harrison Wells and that he killed the real one so the disguise is pointless and Tom Cavanagh shouldn't be playing him anymore.
@@Xehanort10 wrapping the reason why they continue to have Tom playing the reverse flash because he's so good at playing him and you can feel like he's a villain just like how William Dafoe is as the Green goblin no one cannot play him good like him
@@Xehanort10 yeah I get it they are overusing the reverse flash too much on the flash I get he is barry arch nemesis but in arrow you don't even see them overuse Deathstroke a lot well they overuse Marlin a lot on arrow because John barrowman is so good at playing the character well I would say the only time they did not overuse the reverse flash was season 4 of The Flash and season 6 I believe we're the only two seasons they don't use him that much
Fun fact: In the Brazilian dub of episode 1, Barry's voice actor actually said "Look at this s#it dialogue" during one of Flash's scenes with Despero. No one bothered to fix it, and the episode aired with that blooper in. Edit: Since people asked, I put a link to clip in the replies.
I'm glad it's ending in season 9 they got to have one good story arc for 13 episodes since they bring back killer frost and the reverse flash it's going to be returning to finish up the story arc cuz I want to see the final battle between The Flash and reverse flash in an epic way these two got to have one hell of a final battle
@@johnbeal6114 The final fight already happened.. Reverse Flash ain't returning.. did you even watch S8? Edit: S8 was gonna be the last season therfore they had to do the fight at the end of S8, then S9 got announced and now they're gonna do some more story until the end. But not about RF, we're getting a new villian, and 13 episodes is WAAAYYY TOO LOW.. Not enough to tell a proper story..
Remember when Barry and Iris’ love used to be… well, love. It was just their passion and determination to be with each other that drove them to push past their limits and overcome their adversaries. Now it’s just this omnipotent power that Barry and Iris (more so Iris) can use to overcome all the villians. And it always goes like this: Something happens to Iris, She’s separated from Barry for some reason, Barry goes insane trying to get her back, Someone tells Barry to chill and that Iris will be ok, She’s not seen for episodes and everyone forgets about her, The show finally remembers her, Iris spouts some crap about Barry being her lightning and she’s the lightning rod, She shoots lightning out of herself (no not in the fun way) BAM she’s back, Barry gets a power boost, The enemy is defeated, Rinse, and repeat.
She was annoying since S1. Plus, they weren't even a thing back then. S2 Iris is just ridiculous. Pure forced chemistry. She had chemistry with that Eddie guy but he's dead now oddly enough.
@@thomasraines1396 worse he’s a loving and supportive boyfriend who even calls Kaitlyn out for judging him and frosts relationship and the show puts him in the RIGHT. Like yeah come on Kaitlyn don’t judge your sister for dating a serial killer who was obsessed with your sister and then tried to frame her
Couple of things: 1. No “Armageddon real sick of this” jokes 2: the writers weren’t sure going into season 8 if it’d be the final season or not and so wrote certain things as if it were, hence why season 1 characters returning might feel ‘final seasony’ and then were only able to make a few altered cliffhangers at the end as to have threads to continue for season 9
I loved the bit where Iris realises she might kill everyone around her, then Frost dies and she ends up in the same room as everyone she loves and isn't worried at all. Like I get they are in shock and morning etc but she just forgets that she might just dissolve everybody out of existence lol.
The dudes back story COULD have been insanely touching. “I saw Marvin’s ray gun. So my friend and I started playing pretend, I wanted to be Marvin so I grabbed my dads gun. But I didn’t know it was loaded. My friend died.” Boom
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 The Royal Flush Gang are everyone's villains; they can be used and re-used and re-invented. They aren't CHARACTERS; they're a CONCEPT. That's their function. Doesn't anyone who watches "The Flash" actually read any comics?
@@Scipio488 yes, I do. You sound like a smart ass. The royal rush gang isn’t part of The Flash’s rogue gallery. The Justice League has fought them sure, but they are not a part of his rogues gallery and he barely interacts with them. So them being used only on his show now and no where else is weird. Why are you even responding to me?
@@nmr7203 The point is, if you don't read the comics then why make criticisms of the show as they relate to the comics? It would be like if I was criticising the "inaccurate" science of a movie, then when someone comes along saying that the science is actually pretty sound I respond with "well, it's not like anyone goes around reading science journals!".
Hey Ross, I know you hate doing these but they honestly make my whole week. I set aside time in an evening and binge the whole thing, just laughing constantly. Thank you so much.
"every time Thawne has died in the past they just invent a new way to bring him back." No they don't. It's the same reason every time. "Time travel, Barry, so weird."
I think the problem with the Flash is that if you watched it without sound it would make perfect sense. Like structurally it's very well thought out. If they build a device, or meet a new villain, they fail at the beginning, so they have to learn from that mistake, and get better. Problem is they are trying to be more than a kids cartoon, so the lesson of the episode can't be just "Oh, Chester, your device failed because you didn't listen to your friends. Listening to feedback is very important in improving yourself". So they try to sound more adult and profound and dig a little deeper, and it stinks.
Exactly if someone removed all the background music the season as a whole would be a solid 7.5 also it’s saddening that people really think Eric Wallace is going to give us the finale we all want but he won’t and it’s gonna hit them hard in 9x13
As someone who's resently become obsessed with black fire thanks to elden ring, it was quite a surprise to see that a villain for this season is literally just black fire (not to be confused with the other dc villain called blackfire)
I commend you on doing this because I stayed with this show until season 6. Kept hoping that things would’ve gotten better since season 4 but was let down time after time and I see the they’re continuing their streak
Watching your Flash videos is the only way I know they are still producing the show as someone who dipped out in Season 3. I was going to say "Godspeed, Ross" but now I realise how hacky that is. Good luck.
The saving Thawne debate was so stupid: the literal universe conspiring to kill him for what he’s done, they all killed multiple villains before this with absolutely no hang ups, Chester and Allegra tried to equate what they did and being given a second chance to what’s happening with Thawne and finally Joe just comes off as utterly delusional and a hypocrite who ultimately gives Barry and Iris an ultimatum.
@@BlackbirdRX except season 1 had actual logic, and meaningful character arcs, and development, and cool usage of powers. Like, in a show about a speedster, I don't care about the reverse version of the forces somewhat related to the speedsters power source. I legit think they've forgotten that the Flash is meant to be about speed.
Thank you for all of the mental and physical fortitude to get through this series. I would rather the time remnants suck my soul than ever watch this past season 2.
Yesss finally Ross you know you pointed out a lot of things that most RUclipsrs who reviewed this season didn’t. Like for example when Chester was acting like a straight up child when Ray turned down the whole pitch meeting and that I personally thought was absolutely ridiculous and I was literally asking myself how old is this guy to be acting like that anyways thanks for suffering I guess and me at least I think they completely wasted the real version of Thawne and by that I mean Matt Letscher’s Thawne not Tom Cavanaugh and seriously I can’t tell if you’re being fr about liking Chillblaine because me personally he’s just a joke and honestly Despero and Deathstorm weren’t that bad
Wouldn't be the first time. Remember Oliver's 14 year old that acted like a 5 year old crying about the bad man in his dreams, or Barry's 20-something (or hell maybe even 30) year old daughter who never stopped whining or having tantrums
@@the_competent_gamer9454 exactly I totally forgot about that and again I found that extremely pathetic and to an extent humiliating if you will especially for Nora acting like a child when she was supposed to be an adult but William is no exception he was supposed to be a teenager or at least going into that teenage phase and he acted like a 6 year old so nonetheless they were both nothing but cringe
@@ilovezoom3719 yea...ultimately the shows became jus that. Pathetic. They had their issues, but Arrow and Flash's S1-2 were just amazing. After that, they each became repetitive nonsense that were chores to get through
I mean, this was the season they made thinking it would be the final season. Don't have much faith in the actual final season being anywhere close to the Arrow finale.
50:28 I've seen jokes that the kid's dead and Cecile's crazy and in denial. Since she's somehow more annoying than Iris and only exists to have visions, scream about then and spell out characters obvious feelings because the writers think the audience is dumb I believe it.
Finally someone calling out this season on its BS writing and character beats. It felt like after S7, everyone was calling this season some sort of return to form as if its on par with the first 2 seasons. So it's refreshing to see someone actually saying things how they are rather than calling it good just because they think its an improvement over S7, which was atrocious itself. Eric Wallace has truly made it a kids show meant to be watched by 5-10 year olds.
These are the only videos from you I watch 😂 To be fair on the Thawne “death” they said they did that because they weren’t sure if they would get another season so they had to wrap that up just in case. I too think he’ll be back for the final season because of course he will.
The whole ‘speedster meddles with time and triggers an alien attack with the aliens wanting to kill Barry’ was a lot better when it was the plot of the invasion crossover.
Imagine longing for the season 3 days because season 8 makes it look like the best season ever written. Crazy how this show somehow outdoes itself every year in getting worse and worse, its actually impressive!
About Damien, yes, definitely showed up on Legends. In season 1 he's a villain they encounter in history, and it's about Sara's struggle not to save her sister. In season 2, he's the Damien before the end of season 4 of Arrow, taken by Reverse-Flash in his team of baddies. In season 3 however the character is brought back to life after his death on Arrow. We learn that on top of his plan on Arrow, he also had his daughter Nora put into a cult for her to become the vessel of a demon. It's more about Damien as a father, and the more it goes on, the more the villainy fades away for fatherhood. We see him work with Ray mostly, who's in love with Nora, and even pretend to torture Nate in a funny scene, where they talk things out. He's still bad but his love for his daughter is stronger and he ends up working with the Legends, even to the point where he was thanksfull to Ray for saving his daughter in an episode. In the ends he does sacrifice himself for her as mentioned on the show. In season 5 multiple souls from Hell are unleashed across times, including of course Damien. Instead of doing villany, he came to check on Nora. Since season 4 she became a fairy godmother, and is dating Ray, which he obviously doesn't like. But he ends up accepting his daughter's path, he doesn't object to Ray proposing to Nora. The episode ends with him leaving the party early, and having a last talk with Sara. They don't fight but say that they still won't ever forgive each other. Damien leaves stealing a Hell weapon, but it turns out that he uses it to send himself back to Hell, as he had no intention to hurt people.
I really want him to turn into the lightning bolt that strikes him in the pilot. Maybe they could end with the article “flash vanishes in crisis” and we realize that he was always destined to disappear regardless of the Crisis on Infinite earths
Episodes Ranked: 20: 8x14 Funeral For A Friend (Team Flash grieves over Frost) 19: 8x17 Keep It Dark (Allegra has to convince her friends to trust her) 18: 8x10 Reckless (Frost lures the Black Flams into a trap) 17: 8x05 Armageddon Part 5 (Team Flash debates to save or kill Thawne) 16: 8x20 Negative Part 2 (Thawne/Barry get powers of the forces) 15: 8x06 Impulsive Excessive Disorder (Bart and Nora try to fix the timeline) 14: 8x09 Phantoms (The Black Flame tempts Team Flash) 13: 8x07 Lockdown (Goldface locks the Police in CCPD) 12: 8x13 Death Falls (Deathstorm speaks to Team Flash and kills Frost) 11: 8x15 Into the Still Force (Barry goes into the Still Force to save Iris) 10: 8x16 Curious Case of Bartholomew Allen (Barry ages rapidly) 9: 8x03 Armageddon Part 3 (Barry goes to Black Lightning to kill him) 8: 8x01 Armageddon Part 1 (Despero threatens to kill Barry) 7: 8x08 Fire Next Time (An ex-con is falsely accused of murder) 6: 8x18 Man In the Yellow Tie (A good Thawne pays a visit to Barry) 5: 8x11 Resurrection (Deathstorm tricks Team Flash into saving him) 4: 8x12 Death Rises (Deathstorm kidnaps Caitlin) 3: 8x04 Armageddon Part 4 (Thawne and Barry swap lives) 2: 8x19 Negative Part 1 (Team Flash has the fight of their lives) 1: 8x02 Armageddon Part 2 (Barry has the worst day ever)
You mean "this time there's 7 colours of lightning in the sky instead of 4 and the entire Flash team are Speedsters instead of just Barry, Iris, Nora, Bart, Speedforce Nora, Jay Garrick and Kid Flash fighting Reverse Flash, Godspeed, Savitar, Zoom, Rival, etc, etc"
In my opinion, despite it being canceled unfortunately. DC’s legends of tomorrow has basically taken the act of “do bullshit for bullshit” and changed it into actual good entertainment. Their seasons get more and more ridiculous, and they basically have made “do shit cus we want” into an art form. If you go in there looking for a serious show, kind of like how arrow and flasher originally supposed to be starting out, do you want to find much enjoyment. But if you just go in there as a normal viewer, and just watch it without a critique taste. You’ll find each season starting to edge off from being so serious and more fun. There’s plenty of meta-jokes as a joke about crossovers and now they are tired of doing them and a bunch of other funny shit. The connections are actually really well established, and relationships are actually slow burn, not like flash where it’s awkward and seems out of nowhere. I’d highly recommend it.
Ross, you deserve a medal. The last time I gave a shit about arrow or flash was season 3 for both. Watching these videos from you every year is something I look forward to as a metric for my own personal growth. I think the quality of all of the cw shows has been the same since day 1. We've just grown up as the audience
Same here. Like, I don’t think it’s a perfect season. There’s still some issues within the season, but I think it’s one of the best seasons in a while (besides S6, I liked S6).
i think a show about a consistent fight between two people can be so awesome. jojo is an excellent example of this, and kingpin and daredevil are fantastic rivals. hell the arkham games are mostly just how the joker and batman relate to each other and it’s great. but no this is the flash we can’t have nice things
I kinda thought the end of the show would end in the time loop, with Barry going back in time to stop Reverse Flash from killing his younger self, but at this rate I don’t know if there’s any way they can pull that off, because they’d have to try and rush in a younger reverse flash for Barry to make enemies with again.
They've completely fucked up the setup for that by relying on time travel way too much since season 3. There is no believable setup they can make in 22 final episodes where this version of Barry is too slow to stop a Thawne that has his season 1 speed, Mach 2 at most, from killing his mother. Unless they erase his memory of the last 8 years and simplify the timeline so that he doesn't know that Nora has to die to avoid the events of Flashpoint (the actual proper Flashpoint with the Atlantean-Amazonian war, Thomas Wayne Batman, Test subject prisoner Superman etc), there's no way they can do it. The loop was supposed to close in 2024 with the ORIGINAL Crisis on Infinite Earths tease where Barry would vanish, dying from running too fast while destroying the Antimatter Cannon, disintegrating into Speedforce energy and becoming the lightning bolt that struck him. Instead WB got antsy to push Crisis out to piggyback on Endgame's success before Steven Amell quit playing Green Arrow since the TV shows will never be allowed to use Batman.
I really hate that they can’t do that because it literally would be the perfect thing and the fact that they set it up back in Season 1 but they just messed it up
@@Whiteythereaper exactly this. The moment I realized bow badly they fucked up Crisis, i knew it was over for the arrowverse and just gave up when Arrow ended
You know how it’s incredibly difficult to write a character that is smarter than you are in real life? Well that’s why all the characters feel like donkey brained children in adult bodies, because that’s what the writers are.
Why is the Armageddon Crossover just episodes of the Flash? Normally these crossovers are split between different shows. Also, I like CW suits. With a lot of these it feels like they're not afraid to embrace the goofier looking comic suits, unlike MCU, which downplays a lot of sillier bits of the designs. Like they almost never have Thor wear his helmet.
I like how CW didn't learn anything and puts 20 episode in flash. Like 3 episode short can change anything. Also the budget is getting lower so why not cut episode to save money?
I am sane enough and conscious enough to know this show has its flaws, some points more than praises. I know the show is bad, but I can't help but love it. Mostly because of nostalgia, and because I watched all of the arrowverse (excluding Batgirl, Superman and Lois, and Stargirl) with my Mom and Dad. These are fond memories I will take with me long after the show's done.
Honestly I liked season 8. Yeah it still suffered from the generic random villians the show can’t seem to stick to and I’m sick of Barry and Iris’ love being this omnipotent power that can resolve all plot issues, but it was quite a step up from what we’d been getting in post season 4.
The writers really wanted us to believe that Iris would marry Thawne. You know, the dude who looks like a fucking cartoon super villain. lmfao this show cannot end soon enough. Also, Matt's Thawne ripping off his face to reveal Tom's reminded me of Sting taking off a Sting mask to reveal himself in WCW. pure gold.
Barry isn't really the avatar on the speed force. That would be Nora. The woman that looks like Barry's mom. Barry is just connected to the speed force.
This is the only way I can watch Flash also Diggle rejecting the box, I dont think its a lantern ring or it was phrased weirdly, just seems like a big disappointment after they kept bringing it up. But cant have The CW without disappointment.
that season of legends of tomorrow with original actor eobard thawne, and the two arrow villains was actually really good and one of the final remnants of the good arrow/flash/lot days
I disagree. I find it much better than the lame seasons 6 and 7. So, while still mediocre, it's an improvement, some episodes were genuinely good and had some good scenes, so it makes no sense to me why you'd draw everything in a negative light. No, not all of it was bad. The finale though, was disappointing, this is the cheesiest-looking version of Thawne we got so far, and with the worst costume. This season Barry is FINALLY a self-sustained superhero, he doesn't need someone whispering "run Barry, Run!" in his ear to succeed, he isn't proved wrong all the time and actually proves wrong others at some point(which I found REALLY surprising and a good character progression), Iris was absent for like half of the season which was also a highlight. To put it short they avoided a lot of stuff that made the last 2 seasons so bad and focused more on the good stuff.
The fact Joe basically wanted to save reverse flash more than anyone when he was basically willing to kill a guy that even looked like thawne in season 2 is so dumb.
It’s insane. What makes it even worse aside from Joe coming off as a delusional hypocrite he gives Barry and Iris an ultimatum.
@@thomasraines1396 like bro how is he going to say “if you let thawne die you won’t have to worry about him tearing this family apart” or something like that when he literally murdered Barry’s mom and killed you and has killed your sons future daughter (I know he didn’t kill her but it was all apart of his plan to get free so technically it was his fault/doing by making them destroy the dagger. My point being is this just doesn’t make sense coming from his character after all the crap thawne did to him
@@zuckleyplays4120 exactly it’s crazy and has Joe come as a petty dick.
@@zuckleyplays4120 REMEMBER BACK WHEN OLIVER FORGIVE SLADE & ENCOURAGE HIM TO SAVE HIS SON JOE BECAUSE HE KNEW THAT UNDER ALL THE MIRAKURU HE WAS HIS CLOSEST FRIEND & HIS MENTOR
*THOSE TIMES WERE BETTER & THEY ARE LONG GONE ON THE ARROWVERSE*
blame the writers bro, its all them
When Iris said "Your articles speak to people because you're one of them," I felt that. It's a nod to the well known principle that you only have to be human to be considered a writer. One of the Best lines of dialogue ever written for this show, only second to when Savitar said "It's Savin time" in Season 3
Close, but it’s Savin’ time is number 1 for me
Lol
The writers give Iris lines they think are deep and profound but actually make no sense.
the joke would be "it's Savin' time"
Nah I prefer that time when Iris stole Barry's power and went like "It's Irisin' time" and lectured a tsunami out of the city because she is Iris and can't be wrong or useless
Matt Letscher's Eobard Thane ripping his face off to reveal Tom Cavanaugh's Reverse Flash might be the most insane sequence this show has ever done
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Problem is the show's version of Thawne is overused and after Season 1 Letscher should have played him permanently. They know he's not Harrison Wells and that he killed the real one so the disguise is pointless and Tom Cavanagh shouldn't be playing him anymore.
@@Xehanort10 wrapping the reason why they continue to have Tom playing the reverse flash because he's so good at playing him and you can feel like he's a villain just like how William Dafoe is as the Green goblin no one cannot play him good like him
@@johnbeal6114 All Cavanagh does now is a whisper he thinks makes Thawne sound menacing and scary but is just annoying.
@@Xehanort10 yeah I get it they are overusing the reverse flash too much on the flash I get he is barry arch nemesis but in arrow you don't even see them overuse Deathstroke a lot well they overuse Marlin a lot on arrow because John barrowman is so good at playing the character well I would say the only time they did not overuse the reverse flash was season 4 of The Flash and season 6 I believe we're the only two seasons they don't use him that much
You know what? At this point, I just hope Tom Cavanaugh is having as much fun working on this show as it looks like he does.
Poor dude is a phenomenal actor stuck in one show
He looks dead inside whenever he’s on screen
You know it’s bad when even he gave up on the show
@@ethan2570 I knew he was amazing when my mom said he knew him
@@L9-7240did he v want to stop ?
Fun fact: In the Brazilian dub of episode 1, Barry's voice actor actually said "Look at this s#it dialogue" during one of Flash's scenes with Despero. No one bothered to fix it, and the episode aired with that blooper in.
Edit: Since people asked, I put a link to clip in the replies.
Please put the link to that clip. I’ll go to the sketchiest ends of the internet just to see that.
Where did you see this clip or find out about this because I can’t find anything about it anywhere please tell me!
@@zuckleyplays4120 ruclips.net/video/25EvHFAEnIY/видео.html
Here you go. The whole thing is in portuguese, of course.
@@tobennaokoli4450 I put the link above.
Fake. It was a pirate channel. Not the official dubbing
‘Everything felt so on-the-nose, so blatant.’
It *is* the CW, after all.
Except the 100. That is all about imo, subtlety and moral complexity
Gotta spell everything out for the 14 year old fangirls
"The Flash" is good in the sense that it gives us more Ross content.
Its a shame it has only one season left.
He should do the same thing with other shows. Like the marvel Disney shows.
Also Madvocate.
*insert “There’s nowhere to run” and a clip of a villain running away anyway intro here*
Once upon a time, only can imagine the rich content he’d get from that show.
I'm glad it's ending in season 9 they got to have one good story arc for 13 episodes since they bring back killer frost and the reverse flash it's going to be returning to finish up the story arc cuz I want to see the final battle between The Flash and reverse flash in an epic way these two got to have one hell of a final battle
@@johnbeal6114 The final fight already happened.. Reverse Flash ain't returning.. did you even watch S8?
Edit: S8 was gonna be the last season therfore they had to do the fight at the end of S8, then S9 got announced and now they're gonna do some more story until the end. But not about RF, we're getting a new villian, and 13 episodes is WAAAYYY TOO LOW.. Not enough to tell a proper story..
It feels like I've watched you go through all stages of grief throughout these flash videos XD
You can feel the exhaustion in his voice
The final stage of accepting that this show will always be garbage
It's astounding how much the CGI has atrophied since the first season. I can't wait to see the PS1 Flash next year.
I’ve been looking forward to this. Thanks Ross!
what the fuck you made the duck song
and ur here why are you here
THE GOAT
You’re here
BROTHER, I ADORE YOUR CONTENT SINCE I WAS 5 YEARS OLD
Royal Flush Gang was actually used very well in Batman Beyond.
That’s all.
They were also really good in the Justice League cartoon.
fun fact: batman beyond and the justice league cartoons were made by the same people so it makes sense why they're so quality in both shows.
@@kylejones8289 yeah what's wrong here is they speak like theyre in an anime or smth
I like all versions animated and live action versions of them.
Remember when Barry and Iris’ love used to be… well, love. It was just their passion and determination to be with each other that drove them to push past their limits and overcome their adversaries.
Now it’s just this omnipotent power that Barry and Iris (more so Iris) can use to overcome all the villians.
And it always goes like this:
Something happens to Iris,
She’s separated from Barry for some reason,
Barry goes insane trying to get her back,
Someone tells Barry to chill and that Iris will be ok,
She’s not seen for episodes and everyone forgets about her,
The show finally remembers her,
Iris spouts some crap about Barry being her lightning and she’s the lightning rod,
She shoots lightning out of herself (no not in the fun way)
BAM she’s back,
Barry gets a power boost,
The enemy is defeated,
Rinse, and repeat.
She was annoying since S1. Plus, they weren't even a thing back then. S2 Iris is just ridiculous. Pure forced chemistry. She had chemistry with that Eddie guy but he's dead now oddly enough.
Wait for their love to be a character in S9 lol
No rinse
I love how they continually justify chill Blaine even though he’s a literal serial killer
Are you serious? Why is he still around?
He also framed Frost for crimes she didn’t commit in a bid to steal her powers.
@@thomasraines1396 yeah and those crimes were like the murder of 2 or 3 people
@@newthejsterjacob408 and what is he now? Just your typical “quirky” character?
@@thomasraines1396 worse he’s a loving and supportive boyfriend who even calls Kaitlyn out for judging him and frosts relationship and the show puts him in the RIGHT. Like yeah come on Kaitlyn don’t judge your sister for dating a serial killer who was obsessed with your sister and then tried to frame her
@@newthejsterjacob408 it’s the CW so I’m not really surprised. But damn that’s fucked up.
Couple of things:
1. No “Armageddon real sick of this” jokes
2: the writers weren’t sure going into season 8 if it’d be the final season or not and so wrote certain things as if it were, hence why season 1 characters returning might feel ‘final seasony’ and then were only able to make a few altered cliffhangers at the end as to have threads to continue for season 9
The best thing about Flash is watching Ross' videos on the Flash... and watching it myself because it's funny in intentional and unintentional ways.
I loved the bit where Iris realises she might kill everyone around her, then Frost dies and she ends up in the same room as everyone she loves and isn't worried at all. Like I get they are in shock and morning etc but she just forgets that she might just dissolve everybody out of existence lol.
The obsession with allegra in this show is mind blowing
Apparently it's because Eric Wallace created comic Allegra and is obsessed with forcing her into the show.
I don't even like the character that much
The dudes back story COULD have been insanely touching.
“I saw Marvin’s ray gun. So my friend and I started playing pretend, I wanted to be Marvin so I grabbed my dads gun. But I didn’t know it was loaded. My friend died.”
Boom
Too cliche to be honest, i like the one on the series, because is unintentionally funny
@@catacrack9445 not sure how cliche it is.
@@ProjektTaku I can't tell you where, but I'm sure I've heard/seen that story or something like it a few times before
@@catacrack9445 I mean if you can't remember them, it doesn't really matter if its been done before since that means its atleast not cliche.
@@ProjektTaku I see where you are coming from but still I think is cliche jajajaja
I can't believe you watched all those episodes. You're a hero, sir
the arrowverse videos are what gets him the most views so reviewing flash season 8 was a no-brainer.
@@ucey-mi2wr goes to show you that “Nobody cares about The Flash”
@@dravendawson4199 everyone wants to just see how bad it’s gotten
The amount of times the Royal Flush Gang has been reused is hilarious to me
Especially since they’re not a Flash villain lol
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 The Royal Flush Gang are everyone's villains; they can be used and re-used and re-invented. They aren't CHARACTERS; they're a CONCEPT. That's their function. Doesn't anyone who watches "The Flash" actually read any comics?
@@Scipio488 yes, I do. You sound like a smart ass. The royal rush gang isn’t part of The Flash’s rogue gallery. The Justice League has fought them sure, but they are not a part of his rogues gallery and he barely interacts with them. So them being used only on his show now and no where else is weird.
Why are you even responding to me?
@@nmr7203 Then you can't really say "they're not Flash villains", can you?
@@nmr7203 The point is, if you don't read the comics then why make criticisms of the show as they relate to the comics?
It would be like if I was criticising the "inaccurate" science of a movie, then when someone comes along saying that the science is actually pretty sound I respond with "well, it's not like anyone goes around reading science journals!".
Hey Ross, I know you hate doing these but they honestly make my whole week. I set aside time in an evening and binge the whole thing, just laughing constantly. Thank you so much.
Sheev Talks video on The Flash season 8 really summed it up best, “And people say THIS is a return to form?!”
Sheev is a lot of fun to watch.
compared to seasons 3 and 7, yeah
@@BlackbirdRX season 3 was better than THIS 💀
@@violetlavi2207 it really wasnt. S8 i enjoyed and is now my favorite season by far. Season 3 cured me of insomnia
@@BlackbirdRX It's not surprising people like this show. I mean people come in all types; from intelligent to complete ignoramuses.
And honestly, I have to say, Despero's third eye looks better than the CGI of Doctor Strange's third eye in Multiverse of Madness!!
"every time Thawne has died in the past they just invent a new way to bring him back." No they don't. It's the same reason every time. "Time travel, Barry, so weird."
he's a singularity point, so he's immune to timeline changes
It's the "Somehow Palpatine returned" of this show. They're shit writers who can't be bothered to explain why Thawne's back so they go "He just is."
@@Xehanort10 again, they already explained it way back in season 2: he is a singularity point
I think the problem with the Flash is that if you watched it without sound it would make perfect sense.
Like structurally it's very well thought out. If they build a device, or meet a new villain, they fail at the beginning, so they have to learn from that mistake, and get better.
Problem is they are trying to be more than a kids cartoon, so the lesson of the episode can't be just "Oh, Chester, your device failed because you didn't listen to your friends. Listening to feedback is very important in improving yourself". So they try to sound more adult and profound and dig a little deeper, and it stinks.
Exactly if someone removed all the background music the season as a whole would be a solid 7.5 also it’s saddening that people really think Eric Wallace is going to give us the finale we all want but he won’t and it’s gonna hit them hard in 9x13
A children's cartoon is more mature than CW Flash.
@@zemox2534 I like how people make a statement and think there right and everyone else is wrong
Watching this show is like a never-ending fever dream, so it's nice to have you take one for the team and try to make sense of each season.
Fever dreams are interesting, they swing for the narrative fences.
Flash is more the equivalent of the dull, dreamless Ambien slumber.
Hey, it's The CW Critic! He watches it, so you don't have to!
Thanks for this Ross, you've satisfied my morbid curiosity and saved me hours of misery.
"because she loves me, you idiot" is unironically a good line because it's the only time where the show recognizes how braindead barry is 💀
My favorite part of this season was when Barry said “It’s Flashing Time!” and then proceeded to… uh, never mind.
3 words: Ride The Lightning
I can't remember when he said that. Do you remember the episode?
I need you to get Grant back for season nine. You two have the best commentary and I love it.
As someone who's resently become obsessed with black fire thanks to elden ring, it was quite a surprise to see that a villain for this season is literally just black fire (not to be confused with the other dc villain called blackfire)
Or the *other* Villain called Blackfire.
Yes, there's apparently a Bad Guy, a former Priest, named Deacon Blackfire.
@@johannesseyfried7933 Deacon Deez Nuts lmao
@@johannesseyfried7933 people usually forget about the Deacon. Great storyline though
I commend you on doing this because I stayed with this show until season 6. Kept hoping that things would’ve gotten better since season 4 but was let down time after time and I see the they’re continuing their streak
It never ends.
I'm legit more hyped about these videos than the actual show now
I liked when Flash said "It's Flashin' time" and flashed everybody. Even better when he got arrested!
This season was a masterpiece let's be real
Compared to some other seasons? Sure.
Compared to Season 7? Yeah. Compared to anything before that? Not really, this season really went in my bottom half
@@6-dpegasus425 Definitely better than the mess that Season 7 was, and some parts of season 6.
@@0x00Fyou yes
Agreed, its my favorite
I love all your marathons with your friends and all the different opinions. You guys are so honest and natural. Very entertaining stuff.
Also
Memes
Watching your Flash videos is the only way I know they are still producing the show as someone who dipped out in Season 3.
I was going to say "Godspeed, Ross" but now I realise how hacky that is.
Good luck.
The saving Thawne debate was so stupid: the literal universe conspiring to kill him for what he’s done, they all killed multiple villains before this with absolutely no hang ups, Chester and Allegra tried to equate what they did and being given a second chance to what’s happening with Thawne and finally Joe just comes off as utterly delusional and a hypocrite who ultimately gives Barry and Iris an ultimatum.
Waiting for you to do Season 9!! We need it
Season 1 and Season 8 feel like two different shows
Ye. One with very inconsistent writing (season 1), the other with pretty much everything I wanted (season 8)
@@BlackbirdRX this has gotta be bait.
@@Dhruv-qw7jf it isnt
@@BlackbirdRX except season 1 had actual logic, and meaningful character arcs, and development, and cool usage of powers. Like, in a show about a speedster, I don't care about the reverse version of the forces somewhat related to the speedsters power source. I legit think they've forgotten that the Flash is meant to be about speed.
Thank you for all of the mental and physical fortitude to get through this series. I would rather the time remnants suck my soul than ever watch this past season 2.
The good Eobard Thawn could’ve been a season long plot
I'll always hate how they never truly gave Barry and Caitlyn a shot because they work so well together. The chemistry is so real.
it was never gonna happen
Yesss finally Ross you know you pointed out a lot of things that most RUclipsrs who reviewed this season didn’t. Like for example when Chester was acting like a straight up child when Ray turned down the whole pitch meeting and that I personally thought was absolutely ridiculous and I was literally asking myself how old is this guy to be acting like that anyways thanks for suffering I guess and me at least I think they completely wasted the real version of Thawne and by that I mean Matt Letscher’s Thawne not Tom Cavanaugh and seriously I can’t tell if you’re being fr about liking Chillblaine because me personally he’s just a joke and honestly Despero and Deathstorm weren’t that bad
Maybe Chillbaine is so bad he's good
@@Coolsomeone234 lol that sounds bad
Wouldn't be the first time. Remember Oliver's 14 year old that acted like a 5 year old crying about the bad man in his dreams, or Barry's 20-something (or hell maybe even 30) year old daughter who never stopped whining or having tantrums
@@the_competent_gamer9454 exactly I totally forgot about that and again I found that extremely pathetic and to an extent humiliating if you will especially for Nora acting like a child when she was supposed to be an adult but William is no exception he was supposed to be a teenager or at least going into that teenage phase and he acted like a 6 year old so nonetheless they were both nothing but cringe
@@ilovezoom3719 yea...ultimately the shows became jus that. Pathetic. They had their issues, but Arrow and Flash's S1-2 were just amazing. After that, they each became repetitive nonsense that were chores to get through
I mean, this was the season they made thinking it would be the final season. Don't have much faith in the actual final season being anywhere close to the Arrow finale.
The Most Inconsistent Season in My Opinion, There are some Great Episodes while has alot of Bad Episodes as well
That’s basically all the seasons past season 2, some great episodes and a lot of meh ones
@@megamarvel3812 really? I thought season 2 sucked ass. Even with nostalgia, it's super boring
@@marxist-leninist-protagonist season 2 is great but it suffers from too much episodes
Ross I feel your pain, don’t worry just think.. only one more left after this
50:28 I've seen jokes that the kid's dead and Cecile's crazy and in denial. Since she's somehow more annoying than Iris and only exists to have visions, scream about then and spell out characters obvious feelings because the writers think the audience is dumb I believe it.
They also keep adding random powers to make it seem like she actually matters.
@@thomasraines1396 And calling her the most powerful meta showing they're going full Mary Sue with her.
@@Xehanort10 not Mary Sue I don’t think, Deus Ex Machina definitely though.
She’s the Troy of team flash except she isn’t in sexy pajamas to justify her being where the other main characters are
@@creed8712 lol imagine if they did have her in those
"they just invent a new way to bring him (Thawne) back"
Oooh boy, more hype for you to get to the end now than when there were speedforce lightsabers
I'd like to point out that one guy's 3rd eye looks better than the one Doctor Strange had in MoM..
Finally someone calling out this season on its BS writing and character beats. It felt like after S7, everyone was calling this season some sort of return to form as if its on par with the first 2 seasons. So it's refreshing to see someone actually saying things how they are rather than calling it good just because they think its an improvement over S7, which was atrocious itself. Eric Wallace has truly made it a kids show meant to be watched by 5-10 year olds.
These are the only videos from you I watch 😂
To be fair on the Thawne “death” they said they did that because they weren’t sure if they would get another season so they had to wrap that up just in case. I too think he’ll be back for the final season because of course he will.
The whole ‘speedster meddles with time and triggers an alien attack with the aliens wanting to kill Barry’ was a lot better when it was the plot of the invasion crossover.
only two more videos like this! the obligatory season 9 video and the obligatory series review!!! (thank god)
The Flash season 1 was one of the things that first got me into comics. It really sucks seeing the state of things now
WHEN WE NEEDED HIM MOST HE RETURNED
Imagine longing for the season 3 days because season 8 makes it look like the best season ever written. Crazy how this show somehow outdoes itself every year in getting worse and worse, its actually impressive!
About Damien, yes, definitely showed up on Legends.
In season 1 he's a villain they encounter in history, and it's about Sara's struggle not to save her sister.
In season 2, he's the Damien before the end of season 4 of Arrow, taken by Reverse-Flash in his team of baddies.
In season 3 however the character is brought back to life after his death on Arrow. We learn that on top of his plan on Arrow, he also had his daughter Nora put into a cult for her to become the vessel of a demon. It's more about Damien as a father, and the more it goes on, the more the villainy fades away for fatherhood. We see him work with Ray mostly, who's in love with Nora, and even pretend to torture Nate in a funny scene, where they talk things out. He's still bad but his love for his daughter is stronger and he ends up working with the Legends, even to the point where he was thanksfull to Ray for saving his daughter in an episode. In the ends he does sacrifice himself for her as mentioned on the show.
In season 5 multiple souls from Hell are unleashed across times, including of course Damien. Instead of doing villany, he came to check on Nora. Since season 4 she became a fairy godmother, and is dating Ray, which he obviously doesn't like. But he ends up accepting his daughter's path, he doesn't object to Ray proposing to Nora. The episode ends with him leaving the party early, and having a last talk with Sara. They don't fight but say that they still won't ever forgive each other. Damien leaves stealing a Hell weapon, but it turns out that he uses it to send himself back to Hell, as he had no intention to hurt people.
I really want him to turn into the lightning bolt that strikes him in the pilot. Maybe they could end with the article “flash vanishes in crisis” and we realize that he was always destined to disappear regardless of the Crisis on Infinite earths
That would mean expecting actually good writing from this show, which is impossible.
Oh my goodness, I (and the writers) forgot Joe and Cecille had a baby. That baby is the reason she even has powers and it just disappeared entirely
TLDR: Just watch the DCAU shows. Bruce Timm and his crew actually UNDERSTAND these characters.
young justice alongside arrow is one of the most underrated dc shows/movies
Bruce Timm made Barbara and Bruce lovers.. I can’t forgive him for this
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 Well, most of the fandom more or less overlooks that part.
Berry being the lightning that starts it all is a interesting theory i never heard before
Just wanna say your a hero for doing these each season 😭🤣, its comforting to know other people feel the same pain from a show that used to be good 🤣🤣😭
These videos are what I look forward to with every Flash season
Flash fans: please I’m begging you make something with good writing!
Cw: here take these yellow boots 👢 remember them from the comics
Episodes Ranked:
20: 8x14 Funeral For A Friend (Team Flash grieves over Frost)
19: 8x17 Keep It Dark (Allegra has to convince her friends to trust her)
18: 8x10 Reckless (Frost lures the Black Flams into a trap)
17: 8x05 Armageddon Part 5 (Team Flash debates to save or kill Thawne)
16: 8x20 Negative Part 2 (Thawne/Barry get powers of the forces)
15: 8x06 Impulsive Excessive Disorder (Bart and Nora try to fix the timeline)
14: 8x09 Phantoms (The Black Flame tempts Team Flash)
13: 8x07 Lockdown (Goldface locks the Police in CCPD)
12: 8x13 Death Falls (Deathstorm speaks to Team Flash and kills Frost)
11: 8x15 Into the Still Force (Barry goes into the Still Force to save Iris)
10: 8x16 Curious Case of Bartholomew Allen (Barry ages rapidly)
9: 8x03 Armageddon Part 3 (Barry goes to Black Lightning to kill him)
8: 8x01 Armageddon Part 1 (Despero threatens to kill Barry)
7: 8x08 Fire Next Time (An ex-con is falsely accused of murder)
6: 8x18 Man In the Yellow Tie (A good Thawne pays a visit to Barry)
5: 8x11 Resurrection (Deathstorm tricks Team Flash into saving him)
4: 8x12 Death Rises (Deathstorm kidnaps Caitlin)
3: 8x04 Armageddon Part 4 (Thawne and Barry swap lives)
2: 8x19 Negative Part 1 (Team Flash has the fight of their lives)
1: 8x02 Armageddon Part 2 (Barry has the worst day ever)
Who is ready for a final skybeam finale ?
You mean "this time there's 7 colours of lightning in the sky instead of 4 and the entire Flash team are Speedsters instead of just Barry, Iris, Nora, Bart, Speedforce Nora, Jay Garrick and Kid Flash fighting Reverse Flash, Godspeed, Savitar, Zoom, Rival, etc, etc"
Okay so I was joking, I had no fucking idea that they did indeed add more colours of lightning in the finale lmao
In my opinion, despite it being canceled unfortunately. DC’s legends of tomorrow has basically taken the act of “do bullshit for bullshit” and changed it into actual good entertainment. Their seasons get more and more ridiculous, and they basically have made “do shit cus we want” into an art form. If you go in there looking for a serious show, kind of like how arrow and flasher originally supposed to be starting out, do you want to find much enjoyment. But if you just go in there as a normal viewer, and just watch it without a critique taste. You’ll find each season starting to edge off from being so serious and more fun. There’s plenty of meta-jokes as a joke about crossovers and now they are tired of doing them and a bunch of other funny shit. The connections are actually really well established, and relationships are actually slow burn, not like flash where it’s awkward and seems out of nowhere. I’d highly recommend it.
Watching Legends of Tomorrow only works if you are drunk and aren't expecting any basic level of quality.
I actually watched all Legends Of Tomorrow with my mom and we both thought it was a good show, at least at first, but then it got really weird
Ross, you deserve a medal. The last time I gave a shit about arrow or flash was season 3 for both. Watching these videos from you every year is something I look forward to as a metric for my own personal growth.
I think the quality of all of the cw shows has been the same since day 1. We've just grown up as the audience
It wasn’t a crossover. It was a 5 episode event with guest stars. 😅
I was surprised, I liked season 8 that much.
After season 1 & 2, season 8 of the Flash is actually my favorite.
Best Regards
Same here. Like, I don’t think it’s a perfect season. There’s still some issues within the season, but I think it’s one of the best seasons in a while (besides S6, I liked S6).
Home sick and really needed something to take my attention so seeing this was a great pick me up.
Every time I watch a video focusing on a specific season I realize I watched this show longer than i think I did.
i think a show about a consistent fight between two people can be so awesome. jojo is an excellent example of this, and kingpin and daredevil are fantastic rivals. hell the arkham games are mostly just how the joker and batman relate to each other and it’s great.
but no this is the flash we can’t have nice things
I kinda thought the end of the show would end in the time loop, with Barry going back in time to stop Reverse Flash from killing his younger self, but at this rate I don’t know if there’s any way they can pull that off, because they’d have to try and rush in a younger reverse flash for Barry to make enemies with again.
They've completely fucked up the setup for that by relying on time travel way too much since season 3. There is no believable setup they can make in 22 final episodes where this version of Barry is too slow to stop a Thawne that has his season 1 speed, Mach 2 at most, from killing his mother. Unless they erase his memory of the last 8 years and simplify the timeline so that he doesn't know that Nora has to die to avoid the events of Flashpoint (the actual proper Flashpoint with the Atlantean-Amazonian war, Thomas Wayne Batman, Test subject prisoner Superman etc), there's no way they can do it. The loop was supposed to close in 2024 with the ORIGINAL Crisis on Infinite Earths tease where Barry would vanish, dying from running too fast while destroying the Antimatter Cannon, disintegrating into Speedforce energy and becoming the lightning bolt that struck him. Instead WB got antsy to push Crisis out to piggyback on Endgame's success before Steven Amell quit playing Green Arrow since the TV shows will never be allowed to use Batman.
I really hate that they can’t do that because it literally would be the perfect thing and the fact that they set it up back in Season 1 but they just messed it up
@@Whiteythereaper exactly this. The moment I realized bow badly they fucked up Crisis, i knew it was over for the arrowverse and just gave up when Arrow ended
The part of the season where it was like the mission of the day was good and you can't change my mind about that
Ngl Thawne ripping his faces off was top 10 Flash scenes in the entire show
Lmao and it’s straight from the comics now something original from the show
@@makisbizarreadventure4669 Yeah i know. its great that they pulled it off well without any trash cgi
i hope grant shows up again in the season 9 video i really liked him and made it more entertainning
the fact that i just finished the flash when you posted this
You know how it’s incredibly difficult to write a character that is smarter than you are in real life?
Well that’s why all the characters feel like donkey brained children in adult bodies, because that’s what the writers are.
Why is the Armageddon Crossover just episodes of the Flash? Normally these crossovers are split between different shows.
Also, I like CW suits. With a lot of these it feels like they're not afraid to embrace the goofier looking comic suits, unlike MCU, which downplays a lot of sillier bits of the designs. Like they almost never have Thor wear his helmet.
I'm guessing because of COVID Protocols/Restrictions.
Covid and literally every other show on the Network getting cancelled that year.
All those shows got canceled
Wuhan Virus. And the non-cancelled shows are filmed elsewhere
27:28 “iris lite” cracked me up
Ross, buddy. I thought you weren't doing this anymore 😆😆😆😆😆😆
I like how CW didn't learn anything and puts 20 episode in flash. Like 3 episode short can change anything. Also the budget is getting lower so why not cut episode to save money?
I am sane enough and conscious enough to know this show has its flaws, some points more than praises.
I know the show is bad, but I can't help but love it. Mostly because of nostalgia, and because I watched all of the arrowverse (excluding Batgirl, Superman and Lois, and Stargirl) with my Mom and Dad. These are fond memories I will take with me long after the show's done.
damn man, i guess we share similar opinions
Superman and Lois isnt arrowverse
Honestly I liked season 8. Yeah it still suffered from the generic random villians the show can’t seem to stick to and I’m sick of Barry and Iris’ love being this omnipotent power that can resolve all plot issues, but it was quite a step up from what we’d been getting in post season 4.
to be completely fair, he's the paragon of love so
The writers really wanted us to believe that Iris would marry Thawne. You know, the dude who looks like a fucking cartoon super villain. lmfao this show cannot end soon enough. Also, Matt's Thawne ripping off his face to reveal Tom's reminded me of Sting taking off a Sting mask to reveal himself in WCW. pure gold.
Imagine if the CW says due to high demand/viewer ship for Season 9 we will extend the Flash for future seasons!.
Damn, even a funny recap is still rage inducing. I appreciate the sacrifice of watching this crap.
Barry isn't really the avatar on the speed force. That would be Nora. The woman that looks like Barry's mom.
Barry is just connected to the speed force.
I love flash. It is one of my favorites. But your reasoning is pretty 👏👏👏
This is the only way I can watch Flash also Diggle rejecting the box, I dont think its a lantern ring or it was phrased weirdly, just seems like a big disappointment after they kept bringing it up. But cant have The CW without disappointment.
No this isn't my 5th time watching this video, yes this is my comfort channel
Watching this, I noticed they never resolved the "Someone was downloading all the files from Chester's PC" thing ^^
that season of legends of tomorrow with original actor eobard thawne, and the two arrow villains was actually really good and one of the final remnants of the good arrow/flash/lot days
I'm genuinely fed up with the term "level up" with how much this show used it recently
We love you ross you poor bastard
5:58 NEVER in my life have I seen someone correct purple to pink. Well done.
I disagree. I find it much better than the lame seasons 6 and 7. So, while still mediocre, it's an improvement, some episodes were genuinely good and had some good scenes, so it makes no sense to me why you'd draw everything in a negative light. No, not all of it was bad. The finale though, was disappointing, this is the cheesiest-looking version of Thawne we got so far, and with the worst costume.
This season Barry is FINALLY a self-sustained superhero, he doesn't need someone whispering "run Barry, Run!" in his ear to succeed, he isn't proved wrong all the time and actually proves wrong others at some point(which I found REALLY surprising and a good character progression), Iris was absent for like half of the season which was also a highlight. To put it short they avoided a lot of stuff that made the last 2 seasons so bad and focused more on the good stuff.