At the bottom of all the "How Questions" of Science are the "Why Questions" of Philosophy and at the bottom of those, there is the Logos (ie. The "reason" or "explanation" for everything), but most wonderful of all, that unifying agent of all Truth has chosen to reveal Himself to humanity: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it...The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." Jesus Christ is LORD (and that's really good news, because He's amazing! Pray to Him today! Get alone! Seek His face! Repent! Let's go from reason into revelation! Jesus loves you and died for you! Ask Him to show you His glory today!)
Science is definitely a useful tool to understand a lot about how things work, but there are fundamental properties that just are, and that's pretty much as far as science can go.
"The 👑GREATEST Man in HISTORY" had no servants, yet they called Him Master. Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He did not live in a castle, yet they called Him Lord, He ruled no nations, yet they called Him King, He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today! "His name is Jesus❤"
@duelz9366 he's good at maths, so what? He's not so good at making coherent arguments for his own belief in a very specific deity and as for providing evidence - it never comes does it. You can't just intellectualise god into existence.
He slouches and slightly grins, like he thinks he's the only one with the answers, even though he then goes on to speak nonsense. Common religious arrogance.
John Lennox is such a humble and articulate Christian thinker! I really like his answer to Pilate's question here: truth is objective and absolute - truth is a Person. His point about logical positivism is also really interesting: just because you can't provide evidence of the 2+2=4 type (i.e. formal propositions), doesn't mean something can't be true. Great insights, Brandon and really creative thumbnail featuring a juxtaposition of a white and black swan which ingeniously references both Popper's verifiability principle and Taleb's theory of 'the black swan'. Thank you for the shoutout to my channel, Practical Wisdom!
According to Reddit, a black swan was sighted somewhere in Oregon in 2023. Therefore, the statement "all swans are white" can be demonstrated to be falsifiable. So your comment is sincerely appreciated, and I have learned tremendously from watching this RUclips channel.
"John Lennox is such a humble and articulate Christian thinker!" Humble? yes, I don't think he has much of a choice. Articulate? No. but very agile; he jumps through logical hoops to make his worldview cogent like a kangaroo. Thinker? that's the biggest reach of all!!
@@wiffleballer28 Yeah, real astute of you. You do know he is also a respected mathematician, so on that level alone should show you that he can think. You are just showing your hatred for Christianity cards.
For mathematicians, if you cannot provide evidence that 2 + 2 = 4, then that is not true. 2 + 2 is equal to 4 because we have a theorem for that, and that theorem are built from axioms and statement based on logic that is free of contradiction, not something that could be refuted. And for me truth is something that is proven to be true like a theorem. And by all the arguments John Lennox made for the existence of God, he abandoned the very principle of his profession as a mathematician.
This was solid. A lot of people are living out of assumptions and don't realize that "scientism" is actually a philosophy grounded in it's own type of faith. Just faith in a modality that doesn't get to the bottom of everything.
Yes. Scientism requires its own kind of faith, like you said, and is a dogmatic commitment to something that cannot be empirically proven (ironically).
Not faith exactly, but trust, in a system that progresses with patience, and tends, in the long term, to weed out unjustified short-cuts. Maybe it won't get to the bottom of everything, but, contrary to Brandon's implications in this video, there's plenty of time to try (if not for humans as such, then for our successors).
@PastPresented - I think you might be splitting hairs a bit, since the definitions of trust and faith are quite intertwined (look it up...). And while you may prefer the walk of science for yourself, the conclusions that science seems to hold, at least in society at large, seems to me to be based on a number of unproved assumptions.
Science may not be able to get to the bottom of everything. Metaphysics and ontology try to do so, but they may not be able to do it, either. It isn't a big deal. It is fine to not know everything.
If being "humble" is a person, I am sure it has to be John Lennox, I mean, look at the vast knowledge he has under his belt , yet calm and gentle as feathers. He truly is a gem.
Completely agree. He's a beautiful human being with an immense amount of knowledge on mathematics, philosophy, theology and a clearly solid understanding of science. I pray that God always be with him and his family.
@Robert-ct6bc Hi there. In Christianity, the creator of the universe is not just an abstract concept or force or some completely unknowable supernatural entity. Christians believe we can know the creator and have a personal relationship with Him, not because we are arrogantly thinking ourselves enlightened, but because the creator Himself REVEALED Himself to us. Primarily through Jesus Christ and His resurrection - which, by the way, if is false, Christianity would completely fall apart. This might sound like news to you, but the New Testament of the Bible is more than just a religious text, it is a collection of historical documents that provides reliable historical evidence to the life, death and, yes, resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. This is a big topic, so I suggest - if you are really concerned about seeking the truth of the matter - that you look into the evidence for the resurrection yourself. What have you got to lose? Try Gary Habermas's video: A Historian Explains the Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus (Dr. Gary Habermas). Professor Lennox has a great little book called Gunning for God: Why the New Atheists are Missing the Target. He goes into great detail here. Anyway, I hope you have a great day.
Thank you for the encouragement for me to follow reading the word of God, John Lenox .... good knowledge comes from God as a gift-from “His own mouth”-to those who have understanding (Daniel 2:21; Proverbs 2:6). Believers can ask God for more knowledge (Psalm 119:66). One blessing of good knowledge is that wisdom preserves the life of those who have it (Ecclesiastes 7:12b).
Fantastic! Love this video! My thoughts, precisely! Truth is a Person! Revelation, of course. And the ability to connect with same! Our universal recognition that things could be better...hope! Thank you for sharing this clip of John Lennox; he's the most beautiful apologist. I thank and praise God for his voice, through which we hear more clearly the voice of God, Himself! 🙏♥️🙏✝️
I can honestly say that this conversation WHILE CONSTRUCTIVE ....it makes my head hurt 😳 it's OVERTHINK for me. I met Jesus Christ personally and don't question anywhere near like this. HE IS "I AM" and HE daily satisfies my soul. I really enjoy Mr Lennox...he is fascinating in his language. Makes perfect sense and I understand. I've just never been on HIS LEVEL of brain power!!! 😂 Be sure your SPIRITUAL HOUSE IS IN ORDER ☝️ 💖 Texas Nana Psalm 91
This is not brain power, the mind and the brain are two separate things. Our spirit is where are mind and emotions reside. As for Lennox and his hyper intellectual language, please consider the following strongly; Logic is arithmetic, they are inextricably one and the same _[which many today are confused (made to think like a pagan Greek or Roman) and thus confuse it with 'reason'],_ and the authentic austere Scriptural Jesus the Christ declares that faith in Him is not based on logic/arithmetic _[what philosophers use, go see Colossians 2:8-9 as one of many Scriptural proofs of the Spirit of Jesus this time through Paul of why philosophy is opposed to what God/Jesus teaches]_ = mental agreement/intellectual assent, but rather that when examining Scriptures in the Jesus taught Acts 17 Berean _[exegesis]_ /John 3:1-21 qualified way, it becomes inescapably clear that faith according to His Holy Writ/His Scriptures is a heart issue _[*_*_*See Hebrews 11 as one of many Scriptural proofs for this***]._** James 2:19 declares that even devils have an intellectual knowledge of God's//Jesus' existence and tremble in fear. So mere intellectual assent/mental agreement in correct Acts 17 Berean **_[exegesis]_** / John 3:1-21 qualified study, is ***not*** true saving faith. To describe faith that way _[as intellectual assent/mental agreement]_ is to demean it as an academic exercise, trivial, ***when in fact it is no such thing.*** What faith really is according to the true God/Jesus of the Scriptures…is the incontrovertible, diamond hard, unwavering, unmoveable, unbreakable, ever-firm inward conviction - childlike trust - an act of appropriation - an act of true and complete trust - that what God/Jesus declares to us in the Gospel - the truth of the Gospel - is true no matter what man's earthly, carnal, fleshly, worldly wisdom _[philosophical etc]_ states. Faith means just that -> Faith _[again, read Hebrews 11 as one many prime examples of how God/Jesus defines faith so you may learn to discard man's definition which violates Luke 16:15, Acts 5:29 and many parallel verses]._ If we attempt to overlay Greek/Hellenic pagan way of thinking [Socratic, Platonist, Aristotelian etc] over the God/Jesus first century born again John 3:1-21 qualified/Acts 17 Berean Israelite way of thinking, we are in essence in grave error how we are studying the Scriptures and thus not obeying the true Jesus in how we are to study the Scriptures as Jesus taught. This is why, as one main example, Paul the Apostle in his letters to the Greeks especially on Mars Hill, refutes and annihilates their whole way of thinking - how they see the world - for it inherently is founded upon fatally flawed foundations that are intrinsic to the spiritually darkened pagan mind inspired by the Devil who seduces mankind with carnal worldly wisdom that is deceit mixed with out-of-focus truth that leads to eternal perdition [Colossians 2:8-9, one of many Scriptural proofs] but sold as in focus truth of utmost sublimity when it's not, and thus incontestably diametrically opposed to the one and only true God/Jesus of the Scriptures teaching us about the origin of man + how to view all things through His eyes such as the nature of reality He created. God/Jesus taught "come let us reason together" not "come let us be logical" which by the way: Spock from Star Trek would tell you to be 'logical' since Gene Roddenberry, a high level Freemason/diabolist, deliberately invented the character Spock to represent the archetype of satan to deceive the audience to not know Spock was actually representing satan [interesting also is the word 'Spock' has the same amount of letters as "satan" and both start with 's'.]
Yes sloth is a thing? The path is narrow. Not everyone is lazy though so don't let their darkness discourage your light. If you see things clearly you will see every winter ends in spring.
The personal testaments are the best and most intriguing argument for me. I would love to hear people's testaments in a video..maybe daily dose of wisdom guys testimony 🙏
God and Jesus are the same Spirit, just like "The President of USA" and "Joe Biden" are the same spirit.@@gerardjones7881 If i am father _[relational familial adjectival title],_ a husband _[relational familial adjectival title],_ a son _[relational familial adjectival title],_ a brother _[relational familial adjectival title],_ a cousin _[relational familial adjectival title],_ an uncle _[relational familial adjectival title],_ a nephew _[relational familial adjectival title],_ a football coach _[occupational adjectival title],_ a plumber _[occupational adjectival title],_ and my name is "Lazzaro" _[private/proper noun/name],_ am i ten different spirits or one spirit with nine different type of titles and one name? Obviously one spirit with various titles and names.
Love how you explain things! Oh and I agree with you. It’s only through the Bible that I can make any sense os this crazy world we live in and find peace, joy, hope and contentment. Blessings.
Thumbs up to how it's only through God's/Jesus' love letter written to mankind in His blood _[His Holy Writ = the Holy Bible]_ are we able to make true sense of all this is happening in the world.
@@anotherperspective8263why would you think they haven't read it? If they say they're reading it and getting great things from it I'm pretty sure they have
@@anotherperspective8263 Slavery still exists (more slaves exist now than ever in history), near enough every civilisation had slaves throughout history, yet it was the Bible believing Christians in the west who finally abolished it at a legal level. Why did no-one else think to do that until then?
Your statement that, 'Something needs to be eternal for there to be reality', brought those two things, God and reality, together. Also, the connection between reason and revelation was great.
@@houmm08 The universe was created by an eternal being since it could not create itself, which means it is not eternal (s.u.r.g.e.). We live in a temporal material world which is flux, therefore the only truth or reality is in God's being, anything else is opinion. To live out that truth is to be in the presence of that being and to disclose true reality and not illusion or separation.
It's much like discussions about faith, critics of what they think is faith, consider Christian faith to be blind and don't give Christians credit for having considered their faith from logical perspectives. Another echo/harmonic of this discussion is the way a lot of channels talk about relationships and boil it down to being of a purely transactional nature, while this perspective is valid, it fails to account for the whole picture. This video helps me understand my own perspective on these other matters all the better. Thank you.
"cow" is a name; "truth" is meta-logical term and refers to a sentence: read divine Aristotle and A.Tarski,AD 1933! @@mesplin3 .Go back to school; to be a moron is a sin (Mark 7:22)
Reality by its very essence is open and does not have properties. Reality is the ultimate negation. Reality is defined by what it is not. You cannot prove that something is real. You can show something is real by demonstrating that it does not go away in the absence of belief. If everyone stops believing in God would he fade into nonexistence? We know that whatever people belief about the Cosmos has no effect on the Cosmos. Beliefs just affects our survival. Could the Cosmos have turned out any other way? We can imagine that is the case but in the end the Cosmos turned out how she turned out and that is all to it.
Thank you for this video. I love how John Lennox explains things. God has placed him in a very critical point in history to help us understand more about our faith in Jesus Christ. If you allow me a comment on the video. Reading John 14:6 “I am the way and the truth and the life” and being Greek myself I cannot help but share the meaning of the greek word for truth, which translates to “Aleethia” (Αλήθεια). The greek version of the verse in John 14:6 is: “Εγώ είμαι η οδός και η αλήθεια και η ζωή”. Looking at the greek word for truth I realize that it consists of 2 parts. The first part is the negative particle “alpha” α (α-λήθεια) and the second part is the word “leethee” (λήθη) which translates to “oblivion”. By saying the word truth (aleethia, αλήθεια) in greek, we refer to something that everyone will remember when everything else has been forgotten. The word of God is truly amazing. Praise be to God!
John 18:38 King James Version 38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.
Truth is the correspondance of a description with the thing being described, You test it by comparing the description with the thing described (holding them next to each other)
Truth is simply the facts of reality.. No testing needed.. Truth is true no matter who knows it.. And bullsh't is bullsh't no matter who believes it.. 2+2=4 is truth.. It always has been and always will be...
Sehnsucht in itself is an arguement for the being of eternal. It's so hard to explain or pinpoint, but such a strong force. It reminds me of Ecclesiastes 3:11. He has planted the world or rather eternity in men's hearts and minds.
As an atheist and Zen Buddhist, I do believe morality is objective - it is just the rules that we believe lead to our happiness. Our understanding of that is not perfect however which explains our differences of opinions. Both camps are usually really bad at understanding that
"The rules that we believe lead to our happiness" can and will vary from person to person, culture to culture, and is therefore by definition subjective. For morality to be objective, it must originate outside of space, time, and matter.
@@s7udmuphin Perceptions varying from person to person, culture to culture, does not actually indicate subjectivity. One person might believe the earth is flat while the other might believe the earth is round. Just because their opinions differ doesn’t make the truth subjective. Our perception just isn’t perfect so we have to continually make a case that our belief explains more of reality than the opposing side. Morality works the same way. If I say a speed limit of 100mph is best for a neighborhood street, my opponent can probably pretty easily provide more information on why a 35mph speed limit is better, because it will likely lead to less suffering for the people we care about. We never really know the perfect rule, but that’s how morality still works. We might be a bit blind but morality is our attempt to still walk towards happiness. It takes a little while to explain but this issue really is clear as day once you realize morality is just describing what leads to your own happiness (feel free to ask “but what if one’s happiness contradicts another’s?”)
If morality is all about your personal happiness, it's ny definition not moral. Morality is about doing the right thing, that ultimately may have nothing to do with you feeling happy. It is highly moral, a supremely moral act, to sacrifice yourself for others, but how does that make you happy? There's objective morality though, the ultimate immutable truth, and it's encapsulated in Christianity. It's already been found.
@@yuriynekrasov1995 The same objective morality that your chosen particular god has when he "kills all living things" in the flood, just because he was annoyed that some particular humans disobeyed him?
@@sids5002 To those who believe god can kill but not resurrect that should be pretty terrifying. You get there by not reading the bible but picking a quote there and making the rest up.
On one hand, John Lennox seems like such a sweet, genuine person. On the other hand, he claims to love logic but resolutely refuses to use it when it comes to Christianity. I rarely watch his videos from beginning to end because, frankly, they're a waste of time. This is one time where I have made an exception. 1. His statement that truth is difficult to define is demonstrably false. In a nutshell, truth is one of many forces that govern the reality in which we live. And as we continue to learn about the universe around us, we will learn things that are true or false. That's it. There's nothing mystical about truth. 2. "The idea that God exists is non-verifiable, I would contradict that straight away. **I think it is verifiable in the sense that you can adduce evidence for it. In other words, you could begin to put up a case that corresponds with our experience of reality.**" In other words, John can infuse his own reality with cherry-picked passages from a book that is as logically false as it is a moral failure. Conversely, I can much more easily deduce that the god that John worships does not exist while he continues to engage in logical fallacies in order to justify his god's existence. For example, I can logically deduce that the idea of owning another human being is absolutely wrong. I can point out that the Bible teaches that not only is it acceptable to own a slave, but it is very specific in stating how severely and how long you can beat them. I would like to think that everyone in this channel, regardless of the sincerity of their faith, would agree that this is horrifying and wrong. But John would rather conveniently ignore that fact and continue believing that the god he worships is the author of all that is good. However, Jesus - the man who supposedly walked on water, fed the multitudes from scraps, raised the dead, restored sight to the blind, healed the sick, etc., - never spoke a word against slavery and could not have foreseen that there would come a day when humanity would identify it as evil? Please. He had the absolute power to do anything, including at the very least demanding the end of slavery, but he didn't. Moreover, the Gospels of Matthew and Luke do not align regarding the birth narratives of Jesus. Finally, the pieces of evidence that Jesus gave regarding his return in Matthew, Luke and Mark are demonstrably false and contradictory. Ergo, if Jesus can't even get the details of his own birth and return right, and not denounce slavery as evil, then how can you call him God? Yet, John continues to believe Jesus' statement, "I am the truth," when he clearly is not. 3. "The basic God question in my mind is if there is a God, has he revealed himself? Now, the other big claim of the Christian faith is that God *has* disclosed himself in two major ways. One by speaking through his word, which we have written in the Bible. And, at the deepest level, in Christ, himself." I was listening to my wife read a passage to my son last night about the things that God supposedly hates, one of them being the shedding of innocent blood. If that is true, then how can John continue to defend verses like Hosea 13:16 or Numbers 5:11-31 since he claims to love logic? If Jesus is God as John believes, then why did he command the genocide of Israel's neighbors, r*ping of women, and slaughter of children as depicted in the Old Testament? Or better yet, how can John defend such atrocities? So, yes, I agree with John that the god of the Bible has revealed himself. Which is to say that he is nothing short of a stone age deity who revels in the shedding of innocent blood. Why would anyone want to have anything to do with such a being? As an agnostic, I like John Lennox. I really do. But in spite of his intelligence, the fact that he continues to espouse faith in a god that is contradictory and anything but logical grants me the ability to ignore his claims about truth and logic altogether.
The post-postmodern perspective as outlined by Popper, LeShan & Margenau and in particular, Ken Wilber, indicates that truth is domain or quadrant specific. And in these different dimensions or realms of human experience, the epistemological approach used to realize truth claims must be tailored to the elements, I.e.,observables in each domain or quadrant.
God bless John Lennox! I believe he his personally responsible for converting more people to Christianity, myself included, than any other current apologist. And I truly wish that we had access to C. S. Lewis in the same way the internet has provided us with this man today. However I'm grateful for what we do have from Lewis
Atheism here is being equated with scientism/empiricism (one epistemological thesis among many) and materialism (one metaphysical thesis among many), which shows a total lack of understanding regarding atheism both philosophically and historically. One of the most famous atheists (Arthur Schopenhauer) was an idealist. The dude clearly has no idea what he is talking about.
Atheism is just a lack of believe in a supernatural deity. What are you blabbering about philosophy? Atheists have only one thing in common: they don't believe in a deity. Period. Many famous people were or are atheists. Mao, Stalin etc. they had different philosophies of their own.
@@MxVenator and yet CS Lewis says (and John Lennox quotes) “If we find ourselves with a desire that nothing in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that we were made for another world” which is incorrect
Truth to this man is basically that which is required to justify his belief. He doesn’t give a cogent answer here. He’s using things he believes in to justify his notion of truth. It’s entirely circular and not coherent. I believe this, and it’s true, therefore because I believe this it’s true! Nonsense. This guy at the end is good at standing up a straw man and then knocking it down. Materialism is just a standard of proof not a worldview, necessarily
Like all unbelievers, you think the faith came first and the justifying later. It is the exact opposite for many believers, I spent years as an unbeliever, but as I became more educated I began to see the holes in the materialism beliefs. That is when I started learning about the truth. I am still learning but my eyes were opened to the emptiness of the material world worshipers.
@@thomaswayneward like all believers, they cannot understand than many atheists left the church because they thought through stupid arguments like the one made in this video. Many atheists know the religion at a much greater level than those who proclaim to be of it. Many believers are unwilling to exercise any curiosity because doing so will immediately erode their tenuous faith . So we have people praising videos like these that are nothing more than a man confirming his priors
@@thomaswaynewardmaterialism beliefs are full of holes (unverified assumptions waiting to be verified or corrected or even deleted and replaced, unknown recognized as unknown) and full of knowledges (scientifically verified assumptions). Theism beliefs are full of holes (unverified assumptions, assumed or inassumed contradictions, unknown recognized as unknown, circular logics) and full of convictions. Both spheres can be separated and coexist in the same person depending of the balance between scientific knowledge and theism convictions.
Truth is the quality or state of being true. That is it. In order to determine if something is true is to have objectively verifiable evidence, which is the heart of the scientific method. Lennox is a giant bag of wind who likes to talk in circles for no reason to insert his imaginary god for his own convenience. Yes, god IS a set of propositions, by definition.
I mostly agree, but I want to play devil's advocate. God is a set of propositions *by definition.* The propositions are in a sense equal to God but in an another sense they are not equal to God. An example of this, might be a recipe for cookies. The recipe for cookies is equal to cookies in the sense that following the recipe will produce cookies. But in another sense, they are different because you cannot eat a recipe but you can eat a cookie.
@@mesplin3 No, not a good example at all. The recipe for cookies is not "equal to cookies" in any sense ,it is just the instructions to make them. A recipe for cookies are directions to take real things, actual items that are all objectively verifiable and mix and heat them using known and demonstrated methods to achieve a tangible, demonstrable and repeatable result. The propositions for god are just made up nonsense, not objective and achieve no tangible, repeatable result. They are not in any way "equal to God".
@@mesplin3 your example was a list of ingredients and instructions, not a set of propositions. I don't think you know what a 'set of propositions' is. Nothing can be "equal to a set of propositions". If something exists, it exists independent of the propositions. The propositions are just the assertions of its existence. You weren't asserting that invisible, never seen cookies exist because you had a personal relationship with them and they revealed themselves to you in your heart. You were providing instruction on how to make them out of real items and using repeatable methods.
@@nudsh Let's suppose God knows everything. The claim "God knows everything" is a proposition. If I were to ask you to prove the Riemann hypothesis and you replied that you didn't know how, then I would conclude that you are not God. Let's suppose cookies are sweet. The claim "Cookies are sweet" is a proposition. If I were to taste a habanero and it is not sweet but spicy, then I would conclude that habaneros are not cookies. In both cases, I'm following a recipe for identifying something. There's a sense in which the instructions for identifying the thing are similar to the thing itself. Does that make sense?
@@Abraham-m6d I never made any claim even close to that, and it would be extremely stupid to make such a claim, given that NOBODY knows how the universe came into existence. But one thing we do know. Every single time when we as a species haven´t known the answer to a question and theists screamed "that was my god" and we later figured out the actual cause, it never was a god or something supernatural.
@@Abraham-m6d Just as science does not understand that answer (yet) well, then do you invent a supernatural being about which you cannot verify anything and that escapes all basic logic?
John Lennox makes an incredibly weak argument here. First, no science makes the assertion that science is the only path to truth. Science doesn't even say it reliably produces truth at all. Theories are disproven all the time. That's a strawman. Second, he says that rationality and revelation are not contradictory, which can be true. However, he then substantiates his belief in God using a horrible logical argument. He says, "If Goes exists, then has he revealed himself?" He then provides two pieces of evidence for why he thinks God has revealed himself, the Bible and Christ himself. Right after he says that falsifiability is not a prerequisite to truth, he lists a predicate that absolutely is falsifiable. The Bible makes historical claims, and history is a field that allows falsifiability. So, the question is, is the Bible accurate? That has a yes or no answer, thus, that can be disproven. Not like that matters, because his question is conditional and his argument assumes the consequent. It could very well be the case that God does not exist and the Bible is irrelevant. If you want to believe in God because God has revealed himself to you, fine, but don't make a bad, logically useless argument to support it and to convince other people. Let God reveal himself to them.
Haughty and, in my opinion, quite pompous assertions are all you ever hear from Lennox. Rarely facts, never evidence. He is far too intelligent not to know what he's up to, which means he's strawanning and giving us constant false equivalence deliberately.
He is another scientist who does not have a precise knowledge of the methodology of science. Science assumes the existence of the material world and order and does not ask "why?". Such a question is answered by the right philosophy; semantic realism (Aristotle+A.Tarski) plus theology and the main text, the Bible- a theology of history (that assumes an order in historical events). "Truth" is a meta-logical statement (A.Tarski, AD 1933) and does not belong to the language of an axiomatic system of any (formal, natural, etc) science. Too many now obvious idiocies in textbooks of science regarding their own subject matter - I have proof of it (in e-mails or comments on Univ. channels).In general, a Ph.D. fool in Akademia and Church will not repent, i.e. he/she goes to Hell by committing sing contra Holy Spirit as to be a moron is a sin (Mark 7:22)
@@houmm08 It's frustrating to read comments like, "He's a mathematician, so you know his beliefs are rooted in logic". It breaks my heart. His background in mathematics means nothing in terms of his theoligical expertise, and he knows it means nothing, yet all I see are titles like, "Oxford mathematician gives evidence for God". He, of all people, should know what an appeal to authority is and be actively working to make sure his title as a professor or his expertise in math is not abused to give credibility to his theological arguments. But I've never heard the man give a convincing argument for Christianity. It makes it hard not to think that he's deliberately leaning on his title. I don't want to assume motivation, but cmon Lennox. You know that's wrong. You have been trained in logic. Don't do that.
It's very interesting that a person can observe his/her own thoughts and even choose which thought they want to explore and which they want to postpone or bury. Consciousness seems to me more than merely a collection of thoughts.
but we are not alone in it, God is in that conscious life of people. Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. 1 John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hebrews 5:14 - But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 - Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. PROVERBS 20:27 KJV "The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly." 1 Corinthians 2:11-13 11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
@@Jayys647 It's more a finding than an explanation; I think it's interesting that a person has the ability to perceive their own thoughts ( as if consciousness is " above " thoughts ) and then it is possible to choose wich thoughts to dedicate some energy on...
I absolutely LOVE John Lennox. Every debate I've ever seen him in he crushes his opponent, BUT always in a respectful & loving way AND proceeds to call them "friends". (even with douches like Dawkins & Hitchens....which arguably, deserve some hostility with the vitriol & snobbish superiority they exude whenever they open their mouths).
@@JohnSmith-wu6yx This is painful. I didn't ask that you strawman the scientific consensus, I asked for your proof to support your supposition that the biological evolutionary theory is based on a miracle. I don't think you have it and that's why you want to play silly games instead.
I have such a brain crush on John Lennox. I have been talking about him so often lately, that recently my husband puffed up his chest and was like “Okay, what does this guy look like?” And I was like “he’s just a cute little old Irishman!” 😂 And that’s how I got my man to watch an apologetics video with me
Wonderfully well said. Bottom line, Jesus transformed my life from a living hell to living hope.Let the donkey’s bray but there is no atheist argument that could ever alter that fact.
The carnal mind can only work with concepts, ideas about things, belief systems etc, and when God doesn't fit into any of that the immediate reaction is to write Him off as nonexistant. Once we come to know Him as the Person that He IS, ALL of the misconceptions turn to dust and blow away. You either know Him or you don't. Truth is what IS! If there is a box in the corner and you DECIDE what you think is in it, and you've been told what's in it by "experts", you can believe whatever you want about it, but you will never KNOW what's in the box until you let go of ALL presupposition and what you've been told and go look in the box. What's in there is what's in there and deciding what you think is in there will never change what's in there. Truth just IS!
Your closed box analogy, "you DECIDE what you think is in it, and you've been told what's in it by "experts", you can believe whatever " describes religious belief precisely, ironically.
@@sids5002 That is my whole point. It doesn't matter what we've been told ABOUT God by some so called "Expert" (a preacher), what have we come to know from our own Relationship WITH God? As I said, we either know Him... Personally, or we don't. (THAT's looking inside the box).
@@sids5002 Actually, one cannot have ANY understanding of a Relationship that they are completely blind to and ignorant of. I've never met your mother... so she doesn't exist!
This is perfect totally agree... Spirit/Christ in us that's the love,hope ,faith ,consciousness ect We are vessels (in the flesh) walking around doing His work . Inner outer body experience whatever you wanna call it...
Under the opinion that facts can, may, and do change, then beneath the reasoning of mathematics, 1 + 1 = 2 demonstrates the existence of absolute truth. So, under this premise, one can say facts change and truth is constant.
Truth is domain (LeShan & Margenau” or in Ken Wilber’s Integral Philosophy, “Quadrant” specific. See: The post-postmodern philosophy’ of Wilber and LeShan & Margenau as well as Popper.
Question for Brandon: when you state that according to materialism or science that disbelieves in religion, faith, and God we can say for this you say according to materialism love is simply a chemical reaction? Is that meant as a hyperbole? Becuase I have been under the understanding that love, sex, happiness, meaning, emotions, all have understood reasons for existing, have varied forms of expression, exist in different forms across the animal kingdom to different degrees, have been studied by many people, play a large role in human life, and predate religion?
*_(regarding Christ) "...I am the Truth..."_* (4m 5s). This reminds me of the notion that learning many concepts requires that you [mentally] "stand" in the right location in order to understand something non-solid, like a type of relationship, or a personality trait. Sometimes an abstract idea can only be understood by extrapolating from two or more other abstract ideas. The Bible is like this, for it is a book of *_Spirituality._* And spirit is non-physical (consisting of NO space, NO time, NO energy, NO mass, and NO ego). The Bible discusses spiritual topics through metaphor, simile, analogy and parable. In many ways, the Bible points to Truth, but indirectly. It is like the old saying of the Wise Man who points to the Moon, but most people only see the Finger. In this metaphor, the Moon represents Truth, and the finger represents the literal ("ink") text of scripture. The Bible is FULL of *_Intentional Contradictions._* AND many books were left out of the biblical canon because the POLITICIANS of the early church could not stand the degree of contradictions they found there. *_HOWEVER, the contradictions are NOT "errors" in logic, but PROMPTS for the reader to look beyond the literal to something Non-Physical._* *_Example of Apparent Contradiction_* ------- One of many examples which comes to mind involves Jesus telling his followers to eat his flesh and to drink his blood. BUT there is a Mosaic Law which prohibits the drinking of Blood. Jesus knew this and by this apparent contradiction he was weeding out the Biblical Literalists of his day -- the Pharisees, Sadducees and others. We see metaphor right from the start of Genesis: We see "Light" before there are sources of electromagnetic radiation in Genesis 1. The first mention of "Light" is not the physical kind, but the metaphorical kind -- the *_agency of Awareness (spiritual)._* And the story of the Garden was one of non-physical *_SPIRIT_* (Heaven). God said that Adam would die on the day he ate of the forbidden fruit, but Adam lived for 930 generations, for Genesis 5 tells us that "these are the generations" of Adam, and "days" were "years." The *_"fruit"_* which Adam ate was *_non-physical_* -- a Matrix of *_dichotomous_* (2-sided) Non-Physical "things" -- good-evil, wisdom-stupidity, compassion-indifference, love-hate, hot-cold, action-reaction,... AND the Tree of Life, also in the Garden, was the non-physical matrix of attitude traits which lead back to God. This Tree of Life matrix is embedded in the 2 Genesis chapters following the 3 words at the end of Genesis 3 -- "...Tree of Life" (etz ha-Chaim). "Fruit" means "product" or "end result" of one's efforts. Like, we can know a tree by the fruit it bears (which really means, we can know a person by their Behavior). Thus, the "fruit" eaten by Adam, and the Blood offered by Christ, are NOT physical, contrary to the claims of Catholics. AND thus, Christ was not talking of drinking physical blood, but the symbolic sacrifice which we can "see" and "touch" and "consume" ONLY by SPIRIT, just as Adam consumed only by spirit. ------- *_END: Example_* 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
Adam and Eve were not real people they were legendary figures. Looking at their names reveal that fact. Adam’s name means Earth and Eve’s name means source of life. The writers of the Bible were taking facts sourced from the knowledge that previous civilizations discovered and translating them into the language and symbols that they had access to.
@@kos-mos1127 That is a most interesting hypothesis. *_Thanks!_* Yet, you have no proof. I have my own hypotheses and *_some_* evidence to support them. 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯 REFERENCES: *_The Bible's Hidden Wisdom: God's Reason for Noah's Flood_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_The Logical Christian_* (hardcover) *_Proof of God_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_Trinity Treason: How the church betrayed its flock with the only unforgivable sin_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_Meaning and Context: Creation_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_Enemies of Christ_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_The Science of Miracles_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_Four Elements of God_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_The Art of Forgiveness_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_Dumb Genius: How intelligence is sometimes its own worst enemy_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
5:15 "So truth is a person." Okay. That's a weird claim, but I'll assume that is the case. 5:35 "So when you ask the question 'what is truth?' How do I get to know the truth about a person?" Given that truth is a person, your question could be interpreted as "How do I get to know a person about a person?" This question is incoherent.
Knowing a person about a person is only coherent if the person in question is God. Which is the point in this case. So a concept like truth can and must only find its fullest ideal expression in God.
@justingary5322 The performance of apologetics is not intended to convince people who do not already accept a given dogma. The performance of apologetics is a performance for people who already believe and just want their beliefs validated.
Hi Brandon, Thanks for another great video. One Community Note: Your comment on a ‘universe that’s going to collapse in a heat death in the relatively near future’ needs an upgrade . The heat death will result from the universe continuing to expand (ever more rapidly) with lower energy density driving all thermodynamic activity to zero and, by current calculations, is many (many many many) billions of years into the future. PS. Layman’s explanation - not triggered 😊
Many folk don't understand that it is only our own minds that are responsible for all experience. The world has no purpose or meaning of its own, because only your own mind can give meaning and purpose to anything. And this varies enormously, which is why there is so much conflict in the world. Everything is only an individual INTERPRETATION . Two men look out from the same bars. One sees mud, the other the stars. Those interpretations are always a reflection of our own thinking , and emotional state. A kind , forgiving person will see a totally different world from a fearful, angry person. Christianity has somehow ignored the centrality of the mind, yet Jesus spoke about it at length.
I would stand in line to shake the hands of experts who show intelligence in their presentation.,but I would not waste the time in appreciating words that insult my intelligence.TRUTH is simply put; not a lie.
“If the thoughts in my mind are just the motions of atoms in my brain, a mechanism that has arrived by unguided processes, why should I believe anything it tells me - including the fact that it is made of atoms?" -J.B.S. Haldane
You shouldn't, especially when you don't have a way to determine if what your brain tells you doesn't correspond to reality. And this is how science was born
Of course the question must be asked are brains derived from unguided processes? ….if your premise is wrong the conclusion will be wrong….unless of course you want a desired result then take the false premise.
I'm of the opinion that truth is a category. Words and phrases do not inherently contain truths so, instead, we have put those words into the categories we believe they belong: true or false.
Is a collective longing for a “better world” perhaps explained through darwinism? That evolution promotes individuals who promote a more ordered and fair society?
As a Christian I totally agree with you....and I fo enjoy hearing who I believe to be an intellectual man in Mr Lennox try and explain the truth...but ultimately faith SAVING FAITH comes buy hearing and hearing by the WORD of GOD....GOD himself told the rich man, if they believe not the prophets, neither will they believe tho one rose from the dead.....have a good day JESUS IS KING
Consciousness doesn't come from matter. I never thought about that. How would consciousness come from matter? How did I never think of that? 🤦♀ I feel like I never used my brain until I cracked open a bible and now I'm waking up to all these questions and thoughts. Thank you for these videos.
I am saying it also! Jesus is ligit and gave me more grace than i could of ever dreamed of. He walked into my room in 07 and took me to meet the FATHER,my father who is light and love that the human brain can not fathom. I LOVE ALL OF YOU AND ESPECIALLY MY ATHIEST FREINDS. I used to be one after suffering a great deal of damage from religion. Turns out Jesus didn't like religion either freinds. You can "TRUST JESUS"!🙏💓
Glad for you. But Jesus did like religion. The physical church is important in todays world, even though it has lots of problems. I could quote all the times Jesus referred to the "religion" of the Jews and how important it was by looking them up. You will run across them as you read the Bible. Just remember when Jesus said; "on this rock I will build my church".
I started my journey with a daniel fast. And it was good for a bit but it does NOT take place of actual fasting. I noticed much more spiritual hunger for Jesus after actually obstaining from food
It's very hard to believe God throws great stones down from Heaven. But that's our only rational explanation for hailstones. So it must be true (Joshua 10:11)
You can travel to Sodom and Gomorrah, many videos of it made by Bible Expedition, and find sulfur covering the ground with human bones all over. When God sent fire down on Gomorrah, it almost certainly meant meteors which can cause the damage seen at those places
*_Materialism on morality_* portrays it as a "social construct" and thus "relative," instead of absolute. But spiritual morality is indeed absolute because we can see the results of decadence and the results of righteousness. Decadent societies eventually collapse after getting worse and worse. Righteous societies get better and better. This is a measure of *_Behavior_* (human "fruit"). 😎♥✝🇺🇸💯
Something I was thinking about is how is it an athiest can make the jump from a scientific focus to being able to discuss ethics? It is a leap I cannot make in their logic.
The same way that everyone else does? I don't really understand what you're trying to say. Atheism is just a lack of belief in God. Science and ethics are irrelevant to atheism
Philosophers have been trying to explain what truth is since the beginning with their own philosophies but none have come close to Jesus Christ of Nazareth. He came and proclaimed his authority and divinity without a single moment of hesitation. His word was so powerful and touching that even after He has been gone for so long the majority of the world still bows to his authority while the others are merely considered wise men. Kingdoms and empires have risen against Him and all have failed. Yet without raising a single sword He has conquered the world. He is found in the great and holy texts of other religions. These things should be enough to consider Him more than a man. No man, in all of time, has been able to do that before and after him. Jesus Christ is God.
The Bible says that God said not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil but still to this day we dont want to let our Knowledge go . Cant we see that Knowledge goes with Ignorance? If anyone can tell me why i am wrong please tell me.
@PastPresented Knowledge is ignorance .A person that believes in God is so chained up to that ,that they wont even listen to another person.They will listen but in the back of their mind they will still believe .When u listen to somebody then you have to drop all your knowledge to actually listen to what someone is saying .
Can you provide evidence that we have knowledge of Good and Evil? Consider two acts that are identical in every manner except one act is good and the other act is evil. What is the objective criteria one uses that partitions one act from the other?
@mesplin3 what do you mean can i provide evidence?? Its clear as daylight ,dont you think so? Think about this ,when a child is born ,the child has no idea what good and evil is,right? Then that child watches their parents,television and reads books about good and evil and so on. As the child grows up, they think what they know about good and evil is their own but it is not .So the knowledge they have about good and evil prevents them finding out what actual Truth is . Not the Truth according to the books or what their parents told them or what society agrees on. I mean Actual Truth .
@@Jayys647 So the child doesn't have innate knowledge of good and evil. But you claim that good and evil is as clear as daylight. You were a child at one point. When did the distinction between good and evil become as clear as daylight?
At the bottom of all the "How Questions" of Science are the "Why Questions" of Philosophy and at the bottom of those, there is the Logos (ie. The "reason" or "explanation" for everything), but most wonderful of all, that unifying agent of all Truth has chosen to reveal Himself to humanity:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it...The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God- children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth."
Jesus Christ is LORD (and that's really good news, because He's amazing! Pray to Him today! Get alone! Seek His face! Repent! Let's go from reason into revelation! Jesus loves you and died for you! Ask Him to show you His glory today!)
Very well said, Brandon. God would have created us with the ability to reason the reason for existing!
Science is definitely a useful tool to understand a lot about how things work, but there are fundamental properties that just are, and that's pretty much as far as science can go.
I've been praying for a personal encounter with our Lord. May God use me for his purpose and glory.
The Bible says Christ is the truth. Therefore Christ is true.
What an idiot!
1 Peter 3:15
1 John 2:15
Romans 1:20
Yeshua is the Torah, John 1:1
"The 👑GREATEST Man in HISTORY"
had no servants, yet they called Him Master. Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles, yet He conquered the world. He did not live in a castle, yet they called Him Lord, He ruled no nations, yet they called Him King, He committed no crime, yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb, yet He lives today!
"His name is Jesus❤"
Beautiful
Amazing.
Well stated.
I love that!
Wonderfully said!
The way John Lennox is sitting at the beginning of the video made me say, "That is a man totally confident in his Christianity".
Likes the sound of his own voice and hedging his bets more like
Yeah he knows his shit. That’s what happens when you learn things in life
And yet the authentic austere Scriptural Jesus the Christ never taught 'Christianity", but the Vaticanist Roman religion does.
@duelz9366 he's good at maths, so what? He's not so good at making coherent arguments for his own belief in a very specific deity and as for providing evidence - it never comes does it. You can't just intellectualise god into existence.
He slouches and slightly grins, like he thinks he's the only one with the answers, even though he then goes on to speak nonsense. Common religious arrogance.
John Lennox is such a humble and articulate Christian thinker! I really like his answer to Pilate's question here: truth is objective and absolute - truth is a Person. His point about logical positivism is also really interesting: just because you can't provide evidence of the 2+2=4 type (i.e. formal propositions), doesn't mean something can't be true. Great insights, Brandon and really creative thumbnail featuring a juxtaposition of a white and black swan which ingeniously references both Popper's verifiability principle and Taleb's theory of 'the black swan'. Thank you for the shoutout to my channel, Practical Wisdom!
According to Reddit, a black swan was sighted somewhere in Oregon in 2023. Therefore, the statement "all swans are white" can be demonstrated to be falsifiable. So your comment is sincerely appreciated, and I have learned tremendously from watching this RUclips channel.
Thanks for the kind words & all that you do, brother!
"John Lennox is such a humble and articulate Christian thinker!"
Humble? yes, I don't think he has much of a choice.
Articulate? No. but very agile; he jumps through logical hoops to make his worldview cogent like a kangaroo.
Thinker? that's the biggest reach of all!!
@@wiffleballer28 Yeah, real astute of you. You do know he is also a respected mathematician, so on that level alone should show you that he can think. You are just showing your hatred for Christianity cards.
For mathematicians, if you cannot provide evidence that 2 + 2 = 4, then that is not true. 2 + 2 is equal to 4 because we have a theorem for that, and that theorem are built from axioms and statement based on logic that is free of contradiction, not something that could be refuted. And for me truth is something that is proven to be true like a theorem. And by all the arguments John Lennox made for the existence of God, he abandoned the very principle of his profession as a mathematician.
John Lennox is thoughtful. Also, as a mathematician, it's hard to say he doesn't have a logical basis for his faith
I don't think anybody does.
@@mesplin3I don’t think you have a logical basis for doubting anybody has a logical basis for their faith.
@@ricksonora6656 Cool. You can think that.
That would depend on how you define the differing logics we see at work? How does logic view itself in men and beyond their finite view of things?
@@kiwisaram9373 Magically of course. We all know that logic has eyes so it can see itself reflected off humanity and reflected off the infinite.
This was solid. A lot of people are living out of assumptions and don't realize that "scientism" is actually a philosophy grounded in it's own type of faith. Just faith in a modality that doesn't get to the bottom of everything.
Yes. Scientism requires its own kind of faith, like you said, and is a dogmatic commitment to something that cannot be empirically proven (ironically).
Not faith exactly, but trust, in a system that progresses with patience, and tends, in the long term, to weed out unjustified short-cuts. Maybe it won't get to the bottom of everything, but, contrary to Brandon's implications in this video, there's plenty of time to try (if not for humans as such, then for our successors).
Wut. I dunno what scientism is, but the scientific method does not factor in faith or use it.
@PastPresented - I think you might be splitting hairs a bit, since the definitions of trust and faith are quite intertwined (look it up...). And while you may prefer the walk of science for yourself, the conclusions that science seems to hold, at least in society at large, seems to me to be based on a number of unproved assumptions.
Science may not be able to get to the bottom of everything. Metaphysics and ontology try to do so, but they may not be able to do it, either. It isn't a big deal. It is fine to not know everything.
It is wonderful to watch wisdom unfolding as you speak, and with each episode, deepening.
I am fascinated every time ai hear John Lennox speak. Truth is a person!!!! Wow!
Love John Lennox , never seen this debate/ discussion he had. Thank you 😊 keep it up 👍🏾
If being "humble" is a person, I am sure it has to be John Lennox, I mean, look at the vast knowledge he has under his belt , yet calm and gentle as feathers. He truly is a gem.
It is TRULY weird af that you guys call a bunch of stupid beliefs "knowledge".. Its like you guys seriously don't even know what the word means...
Completely agree. He's a beautiful human being with an immense amount of knowledge on mathematics, philosophy, theology and a clearly solid understanding of science. I pray that God always be with him and his family.
Yes! He is wonderful.
@Robert-ct6bc Hi there. In Christianity, the creator of the universe is not just an abstract concept or force or some completely unknowable supernatural entity. Christians believe we can know the creator and have a personal relationship with Him, not because we are arrogantly thinking ourselves enlightened, but because the creator Himself REVEALED Himself to us. Primarily through Jesus Christ and His resurrection - which, by the way, if is false, Christianity would completely fall apart.
This might sound like news to you, but the New Testament of the Bible is more than just a religious text, it is a collection of historical documents that provides reliable historical evidence to the life, death and, yes, resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth. This is a big topic, so I suggest - if you are really concerned about seeking the truth of the matter - that you look into the evidence for the resurrection yourself. What have you got to lose? Try Gary Habermas's video: A Historian Explains the Evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus (Dr. Gary Habermas). Professor Lennox has a great little book called Gunning for God: Why the New Atheists are Missing the Target. He goes into great detail here.
Anyway, I hope you have a great day.
Thank you for the encouragement for me to follow reading the word of God, John Lenox .... good knowledge comes from God as a gift-from “His own mouth”-to those who have understanding (Daniel 2:21; Proverbs 2:6). Believers can ask God for more knowledge (Psalm 119:66). One blessing of good knowledge is that wisdom preserves the life of those who have it (Ecclesiastes 7:12b).
Fantastic! Love this video! My thoughts, precisely! Truth is a Person! Revelation, of course. And the ability to connect with same! Our universal recognition that things could be better...hope! Thank you for sharing this clip of John Lennox; he's the most beautiful apologist. I thank and praise God for his voice, through which we hear more clearly the voice of God, Himself! 🙏♥️🙏✝️
I love John Lennox ..A devout Christian and a Mathamatical Genius .
I can honestly say that this conversation WHILE CONSTRUCTIVE ....it makes my head hurt 😳 it's OVERTHINK for me.
I met Jesus Christ personally and don't question anywhere near like this. HE IS "I AM" and HE daily satisfies my soul. I really enjoy Mr Lennox...he is fascinating in his language. Makes perfect sense and I understand. I've just never been on HIS LEVEL of brain power!!! 😂
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This is not brain power, the mind and the brain are two separate things. Our spirit is where are mind and emotions reside.
As for Lennox and his hyper intellectual language, please consider the following strongly;
Logic is arithmetic, they are inextricably one and the same _[which many today are confused (made to think like a pagan Greek or Roman) and thus confuse it with 'reason'],_ and the authentic austere Scriptural Jesus the Christ declares that faith in Him is not based on logic/arithmetic _[what philosophers use, go see Colossians 2:8-9 as one of many Scriptural proofs of the Spirit of Jesus this time through Paul of why philosophy is opposed to what God/Jesus teaches]_ = mental agreement/intellectual assent, but rather that when examining Scriptures in the Jesus taught Acts 17 Berean _[exegesis]_ /John 3:1-21 qualified way, it becomes inescapably clear that faith according to His Holy Writ/His Scriptures is a heart issue _[*_*_*See Hebrews 11 as one of many Scriptural proofs for this***]._** James 2:19 declares that even devils have an intellectual knowledge of God's//Jesus' existence and tremble in fear. So mere intellectual assent/mental agreement in correct Acts 17 Berean **_[exegesis]_** / John 3:1-21 qualified study, is ***not*** true saving faith. To describe faith that way _[as intellectual assent/mental agreement]_ is to demean it as an academic exercise, trivial, ***when in fact it is no such thing.*** What faith really is according to the true God/Jesus of the Scriptures…is the incontrovertible, diamond hard, unwavering, unmoveable, unbreakable, ever-firm inward conviction - childlike trust - an act of appropriation - an act of true and complete trust - that what God/Jesus declares to us in the Gospel - the truth of the Gospel - is true no matter what man's earthly, carnal, fleshly, worldly wisdom _[philosophical etc]_ states. Faith means just that -> Faith _[again, read Hebrews 11 as one many prime examples of how God/Jesus defines faith so you may learn to discard man's definition which violates Luke 16:15, Acts 5:29 and many parallel verses]._
If we attempt to overlay Greek/Hellenic pagan way of thinking [Socratic, Platonist, Aristotelian etc] over the God/Jesus first century born again John 3:1-21 qualified/Acts 17 Berean Israelite way of thinking, we are in essence in grave error how we are studying the Scriptures and thus not obeying the true Jesus in how we are to study the Scriptures as Jesus taught. This is why, as one main example, Paul the Apostle in his letters to the Greeks especially on Mars Hill, refutes and annihilates their whole way of thinking - how they see the world - for it inherently is founded upon fatally flawed foundations that are intrinsic to the spiritually darkened pagan mind inspired by the Devil who seduces mankind with carnal worldly wisdom that is deceit mixed with out-of-focus truth that leads to eternal perdition [Colossians 2:8-9, one of many Scriptural proofs] but sold as in focus truth of utmost sublimity when it's not, and thus incontestably diametrically opposed to the one and only true God/Jesus of the Scriptures teaching us about the origin of man + how to view all things through His eyes such as the nature of reality He created. God/Jesus taught "come let us reason together" not "come let us be logical" which by the way: Spock from Star Trek would tell you to be 'logical' since Gene Roddenberry, a high level Freemason/diabolist, deliberately invented the character Spock to represent the archetype of satan to deceive the audience to not know Spock was actually representing satan [interesting also is the word 'Spock' has the same amount of letters as "satan" and both start with 's'.]
No.. You didn't...
BETA!...
Did Jesus say something useful.
@@kos-mos1127 Apparently not.. He must have just dropped by to say hi...
Love all your post and insightful/ useful commentary. God bless you brother
Same to you!
I'm willing to bet ppl came on to press dislike, type a 10 second blurb of disbelief, if they can be bothered, then left, feeling smug and superior.
I am more thoughtful than that most of the time.
Yes sloth is a thing? The path is narrow. Not everyone is lazy though so don't let their darkness discourage your light. If you see things clearly you will see every winter ends in spring.
@@wet-read pleased to hear it. 😀 you're a minority.
@twoplustwoequalsfive6212 some can't see the spring, for their heads are buried in snow.
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The personal testaments are the best and most intriguing argument for me. I would love to hear people's testaments in a video..maybe daily dose of wisdom guys testimony 🙏
Your mustache is in charge! Thanks for posting!
Thank you brother! I love your videos and commentary. Sharing with friends and family who I love dearly!
Brilliant explanation.
Thanks for sharing.
So look forward to your content in my feed. Keep up the good work.
Yes, Jesus is the truth.
It was God saying I am the Truth. ,
Jesus was a fully God realized man.
God was speaking through him.
God and Jesus are the same Spirit, just like "The President of USA" and "Joe Biden" are the same spirit.@@gerardjones7881 If i am father _[relational familial adjectival title],_ a husband _[relational familial adjectival title],_ a son _[relational familial adjectival title],_ a brother _[relational familial adjectival title],_ a cousin _[relational familial adjectival title],_ an uncle _[relational familial adjectival title],_ a nephew _[relational familial adjectival title],_ a football coach _[occupational adjectival title],_ a plumber _[occupational adjectival title],_ and my name is "Lazzaro" _[private/proper noun/name],_ am i ten different spirits or one spirit with nine different type of titles and one name? Obviously one spirit with various titles and names.
That stupid saying means NOTHING.. He is "The" Truth?? WTF??.. So is 2 + 2 = 4 "Jesus"?.. Because it is CERTAINLY "The truth"...
Jesus has a God
I think there’s so much more here for me to learn and understand than what I got in a first pass through. I’m coming back to this video tomorrow!
Love how you explain things! Oh and I agree with you. It’s only through the Bible that I can make any sense os this crazy world we live in and find peace, joy, hope and contentment. Blessings.
Thumbs up to how it's only through God's/Jesus' love letter written to mankind in His blood _[His Holy Writ = the Holy Bible]_ are we able to make true sense of all this is happening in the world.
Why do I get the feeling that NEITHER of you have read the book?...
Christian’s have never read the Bible. They have their favorite scriptures that they go to so they can pull out of context.
You do eisegesis obviously.@@anotherperspective8263
@@anotherperspective8263why would you think they haven't read it? If they say they're reading it and getting great things from it I'm pretty sure they have
I agree with you 100%. Praise be to a mighty merciful God!
8:50 correct. Morals do evolve. This is why slavery was morally acceptable in the Bible and today it is morally unacceptable.
No.. The reason that it was acceptable in the bible but not today, is because PEOPLE ARE MORE MORAL THAN THAT STUPID BOOK...
You are a still a slave and most of the western world keeps accepting it because you don’t know better. Evolving much?
@anotherperspective8263 William Wilberforce didn't think so
@@MarrsAttax And neither do 99.9999% of people.. Wtf is your point??,
@@anotherperspective8263 Slavery still exists (more slaves exist now than ever in history), near enough every civilisation had slaves throughout history, yet it was the Bible believing Christians in the west who finally abolished it at a legal level. Why did no-one else think to do that until then?
I love it...Great conversations...Much needed!
Your statement that, 'Something needs to be eternal for there to be reality', brought those two things, God and reality, together. Also, the connection between reason and revelation was great.
Something needs to eternal for there to be reality.........huh????? Why???????
@@houmm08Luke 12:26, 16:10.
@@RemnantDiscipleLazzaro-Rev1217 so, the answer to my question is 'the bible says so'
You guys really just can't think for yourselves at all, huh?...
@@houmm08 The universe was created by an eternal being since it could not create itself, which means it is not eternal (s.u.r.g.e.).
We live in a temporal material world which is flux, therefore the only truth or reality is in God's being, anything else is opinion. To live out that truth is to be in the presence of that being and to disclose true reality and not illusion or separation.
It's much like discussions about faith, critics of what they think is faith, consider Christian faith to be blind and don't give Christians credit for having considered their faith from logical perspectives. Another echo/harmonic of this discussion is the way a lot of channels talk about relationships and boil it down to being of a purely transactional nature, while this perspective is valid, it fails to account for the whole picture. This video helps me understand my own perspective on these other matters all the better. Thank you.
Truth is that which corresponds to objective reality, or put more simply, truth is that which is.
Does "cow" correspond to objective reality?
"This is this. This ain't something else. This is this."
"cow" is a name; "truth" is meta-logical term and refers to a sentence: read divine Aristotle and A.Tarski,AD 1933! @@mesplin3 .Go back to school; to be a moron is a sin (Mark 7:22)
Reality by its very essence is open and does not have properties. Reality is the ultimate negation. Reality is defined by what it is not. You cannot prove that something is real. You can show something is real by demonstrating that it does not go away in the absence of belief. If everyone stops believing in God would he fade into nonexistence? We know that whatever people belief about the Cosmos has no effect on the Cosmos. Beliefs just affects our survival. Could the Cosmos have turned out any other way? We can imagine that is the case but in the end the Cosmos turned out how she turned out and that is all to it.
Thank you for this video. I love how John Lennox explains things. God has placed him in a very critical point in history to help us understand more about our faith in Jesus Christ.
If you allow me a comment on the video. Reading John 14:6 “I am the way and the truth and the life” and being Greek myself I cannot help but share the meaning of the greek word for truth, which translates to “Aleethia” (Αλήθεια). The greek version of the verse in John 14:6 is: “Εγώ είμαι η οδός και η αλήθεια και η ζωή”. Looking at the greek word for truth I realize that it consists of 2 parts. The first part is the negative particle “alpha” α (α-λήθεια) and the second part is the word “leethee” (λήθη) which translates to “oblivion”. By saying the word truth (aleethia, αλήθεια) in greek, we refer to something that everyone will remember when everything else has been forgotten. The word of God is truly amazing. Praise be to God!
John 18:38
King James Version
38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all.
Truth is the correspondance of a description with the thing being described, You test it by comparing the description with the thing described (holding them next to each other)
Aristotole and A.Tarski,AD 1933. Truth is a meta-logical term
Truth is simply the facts of reality.. No testing needed.. Truth is true no matter who knows it.. And bullsh't is bullsh't no matter who believes it.. 2+2=4 is truth.. It always has been and always will be...
Did anyone else burst out laughing at the fact that John is rocking a pair of Nikeys 😂😂😂😂
I was laughing the whole time
Sehnsucht in itself is an arguement for the being of eternal.
It's so hard to explain or pinpoint, but such a strong force.
It reminds me of Ecclesiastes 3:11.
He has planted the world or rather eternity in men's hearts and minds.
As an atheist and Zen Buddhist, I do believe morality is objective - it is just the rules that we believe lead to our happiness. Our understanding of that is not perfect however which explains our differences of opinions. Both camps are usually really bad at understanding that
"The rules that we believe lead to our happiness" can and will vary from person to person, culture to culture, and is therefore by definition subjective. For morality to be objective, it must originate outside of space, time, and matter.
@@s7udmuphin Perceptions varying from person to person, culture to culture, does not actually indicate subjectivity. One person might believe the earth is flat while the other might believe the earth is round. Just because their opinions differ doesn’t make the truth subjective. Our perception just isn’t perfect so we have to continually make a case that our belief explains more of reality than the opposing side. Morality works the same way. If I say a speed limit of 100mph is best for a neighborhood street, my opponent can probably pretty easily provide more information on why a 35mph speed limit is better, because it will likely lead to less suffering for the people we care about. We never really know the perfect rule, but that’s how morality still works. We might be a bit blind but morality is our attempt to still walk towards happiness. It takes a little while to explain but this issue really is clear as day once you realize morality is just describing what leads to your own happiness (feel free to ask “but what if one’s happiness contradicts another’s?”)
If morality is all about your personal happiness, it's ny definition not moral. Morality is about doing the right thing, that ultimately may have nothing to do with you feeling happy. It is highly moral, a supremely moral act, to sacrifice yourself for others, but how does that make you happy? There's objective morality though, the ultimate immutable truth, and it's encapsulated in Christianity. It's already been found.
@@yuriynekrasov1995 The same objective morality that your chosen particular god has when he "kills all living things" in the flood, just because he was annoyed that some particular humans disobeyed him?
@@sids5002 To those who believe god can kill but not resurrect that should be pretty terrifying. You get there by not reading the bible but picking a quote there and making the rest up.
On one hand, John Lennox seems like such a sweet, genuine person. On the other hand, he claims to love logic but resolutely refuses to use it when it comes to Christianity. I rarely watch his videos from beginning to end because, frankly, they're a waste of time. This is one time where I have made an exception.
1. His statement that truth is difficult to define is demonstrably false. In a nutshell, truth is one of many forces that govern the reality in which we live. And as we continue to learn about the universe around us, we will learn things that are true or false. That's it. There's nothing mystical about truth.
2. "The idea that God exists is non-verifiable, I would contradict that straight away. **I think it is verifiable in the sense that you can adduce evidence for it. In other words, you could begin to put up a case that corresponds with our experience of reality.**"
In other words, John can infuse his own reality with cherry-picked passages from a book that is as logically false as it is a moral failure.
Conversely, I can much more easily deduce that the god that John worships does not exist while he continues to engage in logical fallacies in order to justify his god's existence. For example, I can logically deduce that the idea of owning another human being is absolutely wrong. I can point out that the Bible teaches that not only is it acceptable to own a slave, but it is very specific in stating how severely and how long you can beat them. I would like to think that everyone in this channel, regardless of the sincerity of their faith, would agree that this is horrifying and wrong. But John would rather conveniently ignore that fact and continue believing that the god he worships is the author of all that is good.
However, Jesus - the man who supposedly walked on water, fed the multitudes from scraps, raised the dead, restored sight to the blind, healed the sick, etc., - never spoke a word against slavery and could not have foreseen that there would come a day when humanity would identify it as evil? Please. He had the absolute power to do anything, including at the very least demanding the end of slavery, but he didn't. Moreover, the Gospels of Matthew and Luke do not align regarding the birth narratives of Jesus. Finally, the pieces of evidence that Jesus gave regarding his return in Matthew, Luke and Mark are demonstrably false and contradictory.
Ergo, if Jesus can't even get the details of his own birth and return right, and not denounce slavery as evil, then how can you call him God? Yet, John continues to believe Jesus' statement, "I am the truth," when he clearly is not.
3. "The basic God question in my mind is if there is a God, has he revealed himself? Now, the other big claim of the Christian faith is that God *has* disclosed himself in two major ways. One by speaking through his word, which we have written in the Bible. And, at the deepest level, in Christ, himself."
I was listening to my wife read a passage to my son last night about the things that God supposedly hates, one of them being the shedding of innocent blood. If that is true, then how can John continue to defend verses like Hosea 13:16 or Numbers 5:11-31 since he claims to love logic? If Jesus is God as John believes, then why did he command the genocide of Israel's neighbors, r*ping of women, and slaughter of children as depicted in the Old Testament? Or better yet, how can John defend such atrocities?
So, yes, I agree with John that the god of the Bible has revealed himself. Which is to say that he is nothing short of a stone age deity who revels in the shedding of innocent blood. Why would anyone want to have anything to do with such a being?
As an agnostic, I like John Lennox. I really do. But in spite of his intelligence, the fact that he continues to espouse faith in a god that is contradictory and anything but logical grants me the ability to ignore his claims about truth and logic altogether.
there's only one Truth, it's Yeshua HaMashiach,
without exception
Such a great channel. Thank you.
Jesus has indeed transformed my life!
Super awesome and God bless you!! Christ absolutely transformed my life too. “Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.” John 8:36
The post-postmodern perspective as outlined by Popper, LeShan & Margenau and in particular, Ken Wilber, indicates that truth is domain or quadrant specific. And in these different dimensions or realms of human experience, the epistemological approach used to realize truth claims must be tailored to the elements, I.e.,observables in each domain or quadrant.
Truth is the goal of science. If God is truth then god is the goal of science. Seems we all agree 😮
Truth is Life,verified,so Life is Truth,wake up
Beauty is the absence of evil my friend.
God bless John Lennox! I believe he his personally responsible for converting more people to Christianity, myself included, than any other current apologist. And I truly wish that we had access to C. S. Lewis in the same way the internet has provided us with this man today. However I'm grateful for what we do have from Lewis
Atheism here is being equated with scientism/empiricism (one epistemological thesis among many) and materialism (one metaphysical thesis among many), which shows a total lack of understanding regarding atheism both philosophically and historically.
One of the most famous atheists (Arthur Schopenhauer) was an idealist.
The dude clearly has no idea what he is talking about.
He has an idea- but it's a dogmatically Christian idea
Atheism is just a lack of believe in a supernatural deity. What are you blabbering about philosophy? Atheists have only one thing in common: they don't believe in a deity. Period. Many famous people were or are atheists. Mao, Stalin etc. they had different philosophies of their own.
Idealism is the position that one cannot know what the thing is in itself. The mind constructs objects of experience.
@@kos-mos1127 That's epistemological idealism, akin to Kant's idealism.
I love your content so much! Great points, brother!
Can you name one and explain why you would say it´s a great point?
If I long for unicorns to exist, is it evidence that unicorns exist? 🙄
No
@@MxVenator and yet CS Lewis says (and John Lennox quotes) “If we find ourselves with a desire that nothing in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that we were made for another world” which is incorrect
Are there multiple universes?
We’ve all experienced hope, no one has ever seen a unicorn
Is there a way to remove the box of you watching the video clip?
Jesus is the Truth!
Stop spreading your nonsense.
Truth is that which does not change.
Truth to this man is basically that which is required to justify his belief. He doesn’t give a cogent answer here. He’s using things he believes in to justify his notion of truth. It’s entirely circular and not coherent.
I believe this, and it’s true, therefore because I believe this it’s true! Nonsense.
This guy at the end is good at standing up a straw man and then knocking it down. Materialism is just a standard of proof not a worldview, necessarily
Like all unbelievers, you think the faith came first and the justifying later. It is the exact opposite for many believers, I spent years as an unbeliever, but as I became more educated I began to see the holes in the materialism beliefs. That is when I started learning about the truth. I am still learning but my eyes were opened to the emptiness of the material world worshipers.
@@thomaswayneward like all believers, they cannot understand than many atheists left the church because they thought through stupid arguments like the one made in this video. Many atheists know the religion at a much greater level than those who proclaim to be of it.
Many believers are unwilling to exercise any curiosity because doing so will immediately erode their tenuous faith . So we have people praising videos like these that are nothing more than a man confirming his priors
@@thomaswaynewardmaterialism beliefs are full of holes (unverified assumptions waiting to be verified or corrected or even deleted and replaced, unknown recognized as unknown) and full of knowledges (scientifically verified assumptions). Theism beliefs are full of holes (unverified assumptions, assumed or inassumed contradictions, unknown recognized as unknown, circular logics) and full of convictions. Both spheres can be separated and coexist in the same person depending of the balance between scientific knowledge and theism convictions.
I believe the definition of your assumption is called insanity.@@deguilhemcorinne418
2:04 #Scientism made me love #Truth not just an opinion, although I understand it encourages #Creativity
Truth is the quality or state of being true. That is it. In order to determine if something is true is to have objectively verifiable evidence, which is the heart of the scientific method. Lennox is a giant bag of wind who likes to talk in circles for no reason to insert his imaginary god for his own convenience. Yes, god IS a set of propositions, by definition.
I mostly agree, but I want to play devil's advocate.
God is a set of propositions *by definition.* The propositions are in a sense equal to God but in an another sense they are not equal to God.
An example of this, might be a recipe for cookies. The recipe for cookies is equal to cookies in the sense that following the recipe will produce cookies. But in another sense, they are different because you cannot eat a recipe but you can eat a cookie.
@@mesplin3 No, not a good example at all. The recipe for cookies is not "equal to cookies" in any sense ,it is just the instructions to make them. A recipe for cookies are directions to take real things, actual items that are all objectively verifiable and mix and heat them using known and demonstrated methods to achieve a tangible, demonstrable and repeatable result.
The propositions for god are just made up nonsense, not objective and achieve no tangible, repeatable result. They are not in any way "equal to God".
@@nudsh If God is not equal to a set of propositions, then what do mean by "God is a set of propositions by definition?"
@@mesplin3 your example was a list of ingredients and instructions, not a set of propositions. I don't think you know what a 'set of propositions' is. Nothing can be "equal to a set of propositions". If something exists, it exists independent of the propositions. The propositions are just the assertions of its existence.
You weren't asserting that invisible, never seen cookies exist because you had a personal relationship with them and they revealed themselves to you in your heart. You were providing instruction on how to make them out of real items and using repeatable methods.
@@nudsh Let's suppose God knows everything. The claim "God knows everything" is a proposition. If I were to ask you to prove the Riemann hypothesis and you replied that you didn't know how, then I would conclude that you are not God.
Let's suppose cookies are sweet. The claim "Cookies are sweet" is a proposition. If I were to taste a habanero and it is not sweet but spicy, then I would conclude that habaneros are not cookies.
In both cases, I'm following a recipe for identifying something. There's a sense in which the instructions for identifying the thing are similar to the thing itself. Does that make sense?
Psalm 119:142 "Your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness and Your Torah is Truth."
Something is true when you can DEMONSTRATE that it is accurate. Good luck trying this with anything supernatural let alone gods.
Good luck with proving 'nothingness created matter"
@@Abraham-m6d I never made any claim even close to that, and it would be extremely stupid to make such a claim, given that NOBODY knows how the universe came into existence.
But one thing we do know. Every single time when we as a species haven´t known the answer to a question and theists screamed "that was my god" and we later figured out the actual cause, it never was a god or something supernatural.
@@Abraham-m6d Just as science does not understand that answer (yet) well, then do you invent a supernatural being about which you cannot verify anything and that escapes all basic logic?
@@Abraham-m6d”nothingness created matter” is not a scientific idea, it’s a religious one.
Bingo.
Truth is the addition that validates multiplication, which bestows the potential for meaning.
John Lennox makes an incredibly weak argument here.
First, no science makes the assertion that science is the only path to truth. Science doesn't even say it reliably produces truth at all. Theories are disproven all the time. That's a strawman.
Second, he says that rationality and revelation are not contradictory, which can be true. However, he then substantiates his belief in God using a horrible logical argument. He says, "If Goes exists, then has he revealed himself?" He then provides two pieces of evidence for why he thinks God has revealed himself, the Bible and Christ himself. Right after he says that falsifiability is not a prerequisite to truth, he lists a predicate that absolutely is falsifiable. The Bible makes historical claims, and history is a field that allows falsifiability. So, the question is, is the Bible accurate? That has a yes or no answer, thus, that can be disproven. Not like that matters, because his question is conditional and his argument assumes the consequent. It could very well be the case that God does not exist and the Bible is irrelevant.
If you want to believe in God because God has revealed himself to you, fine, but don't make a bad, logically useless argument to support it and to convince other people. Let God reveal himself to them.
Haughty and, in my opinion, quite pompous assertions are all you ever hear from Lennox. Rarely facts, never evidence. He is far too intelligent not to know what he's up to, which means he's strawanning and giving us constant false equivalence deliberately.
He is another scientist who does not have a precise knowledge of the methodology of science. Science assumes the existence of the material world and order and does not ask "why?". Such a question is answered by the right philosophy; semantic realism (Aristotle+A.Tarski) plus theology and the main text, the Bible- a theology of history (that assumes an order in historical events). "Truth" is a meta-logical statement (A.Tarski, AD 1933) and does not belong to the language of an axiomatic system of any (formal, natural, etc) science. Too many now obvious idiocies in textbooks of science regarding their own subject matter - I have proof of it (in e-mails or comments on Univ. channels).In general, a Ph.D. fool in Akademia and Church will not repent, i.e. he/she goes to Hell by committing sing contra Holy Spirit as to be a moron is a sin (Mark 7:22)
@@houmm08 It's frustrating to read comments like, "He's a mathematician, so you know his beliefs are rooted in logic". It breaks my heart. His background in mathematics means nothing in terms of his theoligical expertise, and he knows it means nothing, yet all I see are titles like, "Oxford mathematician gives evidence for God". He, of all people, should know what an appeal to authority is and be actively working to make sure his title as a professor or his expertise in math is not abused to give credibility to his theological arguments.
But I've never heard the man give a convincing argument for Christianity. It makes it hard not to think that he's deliberately leaning on his title. I don't want to assume motivation, but cmon Lennox. You know that's wrong. You have been trained in logic. Don't do that.
It's very interesting that a person can observe his/her own thoughts and even choose which thought they want to explore and which they want to postpone or bury. Consciousness seems to me more than merely a collection of thoughts.
Can you explain more?
but we are not alone in it, God is in that conscious life of people.
Hebrews 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
1 John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Hebrews 5:14 - But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil.
1 Thessalonians 5:21 - Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.
PROVERBS 20:27 KJV "The spirit of man is the candle of the LORD, searching all the inward parts of the belly."
1 Corinthians 2:11-13
11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God.
13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual.
@@Jayys647 It's more a finding than an explanation; I think it's interesting that a person has the ability to perceive their own thoughts ( as if consciousness is " above " thoughts ) and then it is possible to choose wich thoughts to dedicate some energy on...
Can't one be unconscious but still dream? A dream is a thought, no?
@salvadoroliveira6632 Do you think theres Truth in Thoughts?
Jesús Christ = The Truth
Why
@@LaukyS-lz5ql Because
I absolutely LOVE John Lennox.
Every debate I've ever seen him in he crushes his opponent,
BUT
always in a respectful & loving way
AND
proceeds to call them "friends".
(even with douches like Dawkins & Hitchens....which arguably, deserve some hostility with the vitriol & snobbish superiority they exude whenever they open their mouths).
I've never seen a debate where Lennox didn't make preposterous assertions and attempt unfunny gotchas 🙄
@@houmm08 👌
No one can prove how the first single cell was created, yet evolutionists created an entire “theory” based on a miracle.
Can you prove that is was a miracle?
@@TurinTuramber Yes I can. According to science, it doesn’t exist.
@@JohnSmith-wu6yx So what are you waiting for then?...
@@TurinTuramber maybe you didn’t read it. Go back and read.
@@JohnSmith-wu6yx This is painful. I didn't ask that you strawman the scientific consensus, I asked for your proof to support your supposition that the biological evolutionary theory is based on a miracle.
I don't think you have it and that's why you want to play silly games instead.
I have such a brain crush on John Lennox. I have been talking about him so often lately, that recently my husband puffed up his chest and was like “Okay, what does this guy look like?” And I was like “he’s just a cute little old Irishman!” 😂
And that’s how I got my man to watch an apologetics video with me
Lennox using the term 'scientism' is quite despicable, I find it disgusting actually
I'm sorry that sounds like a personal issue you need to work out
@@ByronJames7 as I said, despicable
@@houmm08 🤙🏾
What's the problem with it?
That what it is, if you base your conclusions only based on science and what science can prove. That is scientism
Great content again. Never thought i'd see Magnum P.I doing a youtube channel though 😂
Wonderfully well said. Bottom line, Jesus transformed my life from a living hell to living hope.Let the donkey’s bray but there is no atheist argument that could ever alter that fact.
Jesus is another mind drug.
You changed your life, along with medication possibly, and other humans probably. no one else can. Take some credit.
@@sids5002 You have no idea what you’re talking about.
@@kos-mos1127 whatever
@@davidramsey2566 How so? Do you know something I don't know? You're better than that nonsense. You transformed your life! That's wonderful.
congratulations you do agreat job, thanks, and God Bless You.
The carnal mind can only work with concepts, ideas about things, belief systems etc, and when God doesn't fit into any of that the immediate reaction is to write Him off as nonexistant. Once we come to know Him as the Person that He IS, ALL of the misconceptions turn to dust and blow away. You either know Him or you don't. Truth is what IS! If there is a box in the corner and you DECIDE what you think is in it, and you've been told what's in it by "experts", you can believe whatever you want about it, but you will never KNOW what's in the box until you let go of ALL presupposition and what you've been told and go look in the box. What's in there is what's in there and deciding what you think is in there will never change what's in there. Truth just IS!
Truth corresponds to objective reality. Reality is what it is. Reality just be.
Your closed box analogy, "you DECIDE what you think is in it, and you've been told what's in it by "experts", you can believe whatever " describes religious belief precisely, ironically.
@@sids5002 That is my whole point. It doesn't matter what we've been told ABOUT God by some so called "Expert" (a preacher), what have we come to know from our own Relationship WITH God? As I said, we either know Him... Personally, or we don't. (THAT's looking inside the box).
@@thomasmartinscott My point is that one cannot have a relationship with something which does not exist.
@@sids5002 Actually, one cannot have ANY understanding of a Relationship that they are completely blind to and ignorant of. I've never met your mother... so she doesn't exist!
This is perfect totally agree...
Spirit/Christ in us that's the love,hope ,faith ,consciousness ect
We are vessels (in the flesh) walking around doing His work .
Inner outer body experience whatever you wanna call it...
Under the opinion that facts can, may, and do change, then beneath the reasoning of mathematics, 1 + 1 = 2 demonstrates the existence of absolute truth. So, under this premise, one can say facts change and truth is constant.
Truth is domain (LeShan & Margenau” or in Ken Wilber’s Integral Philosophy, “Quadrant” specific.
See: The post-postmodern philosophy’ of Wilber and LeShan & Margenau as well as Popper.
Please don't make a habit of that
Question for Brandon: when you state that according to materialism or science that disbelieves in religion, faith, and God we can say for this you say according to materialism love is simply a chemical reaction? Is that meant as a hyperbole? Becuase I have been under the understanding that love, sex, happiness, meaning, emotions, all have understood reasons for existing, have varied forms of expression, exist in different forms across the animal kingdom to different degrees, have been studied by many people, play a large role in human life, and predate religion?
*_(regarding Christ) "...I am the Truth..."_* (4m 5s). This reminds me of the notion that learning many concepts requires that you [mentally] "stand" in the right location in order to understand something non-solid, like a type of relationship, or a personality trait. Sometimes an abstract idea can only be understood by extrapolating from two or more other abstract ideas.
The Bible is like this, for it is a book of *_Spirituality._* And spirit is non-physical (consisting of NO space, NO time, NO energy, NO mass, and NO ego). The Bible discusses spiritual topics through metaphor, simile, analogy and parable.
In many ways, the Bible points to Truth, but indirectly. It is like the old saying of the Wise Man who points to the Moon, but most people only see the Finger. In this metaphor, the Moon represents Truth, and the finger represents the literal ("ink") text of scripture.
The Bible is FULL of *_Intentional Contradictions._* AND many books were left out of the biblical canon because the POLITICIANS of the early church could not stand the degree of contradictions they found there. *_HOWEVER, the contradictions are NOT "errors" in logic, but PROMPTS for the reader to look beyond the literal to something Non-Physical._*
*_Example of Apparent Contradiction_*
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One of many examples which comes to mind involves Jesus telling his followers to eat his flesh and to drink his blood. BUT there is a Mosaic Law which prohibits the drinking of Blood. Jesus knew this and by this apparent contradiction he was weeding out the Biblical Literalists of his day -- the Pharisees, Sadducees and others.
We see metaphor right from the start of Genesis: We see "Light" before there are sources of electromagnetic radiation in Genesis 1. The first mention of "Light" is not the physical kind, but the metaphorical kind -- the *_agency of Awareness (spiritual)._*
And the story of the Garden was one of non-physical *_SPIRIT_* (Heaven). God said that Adam would die on the day he ate of the forbidden fruit, but Adam lived for 930 generations, for Genesis 5 tells us that "these are the generations" of Adam, and "days" were "years."
The *_"fruit"_* which Adam ate was *_non-physical_* -- a Matrix of *_dichotomous_* (2-sided) Non-Physical "things" -- good-evil, wisdom-stupidity, compassion-indifference, love-hate, hot-cold, action-reaction,... AND the Tree of Life, also in the Garden, was the non-physical matrix of attitude traits which lead back to God. This Tree of Life matrix is embedded in the 2 Genesis chapters following the 3 words at the end of Genesis 3 -- "...Tree of Life" (etz ha-Chaim).
"Fruit" means "product" or "end result" of one's efforts. Like, we can know a tree by the fruit it bears (which really means, we can know a person by their Behavior). Thus, the "fruit" eaten by Adam, and the Blood offered by Christ, are NOT physical, contrary to the claims of Catholics. AND thus, Christ was not talking of drinking physical blood, but the symbolic sacrifice which we can "see" and "touch" and "consume" ONLY by SPIRIT, just as Adam consumed only by spirit.
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*_END: Example_*
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Adam and Eve were not real people they were legendary figures. Looking at their names reveal that fact. Adam’s name means Earth and Eve’s name means source of life.
The writers of the Bible were taking facts sourced from the knowledge that previous civilizations discovered and translating them into the language and symbols that they had access to.
@@kos-mos1127 That is a most interesting hypothesis. *_Thanks!_* Yet, you have no proof.
I have my own hypotheses and *_some_* evidence to support them.
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*_The Bible's Hidden Wisdom: God's Reason for Noah's Flood_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
*_The Logical Christian_* (hardcover)
*_Proof of God_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
*_Trinity Treason: How the church betrayed its flock with the only unforgivable sin_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
*_Meaning and Context: Creation_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
*_Enemies of Christ_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
*_The Science of Miracles_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
*_Four Elements of God_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
*_The Art of Forgiveness_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
*_Dumb Genius: How intelligence is sometimes its own worst enemy_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
5:15 "So truth is a person."
Okay. That's a weird claim, but I'll assume that is the case.
5:35 "So when you ask the question 'what is truth?' How do I get to know the truth about a person?"
Given that truth is a person, your question could be interpreted as "How do I get to know a person about a person?" This question is incoherent.
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Knowing a person about a person is only coherent if the person in question is God. Which is the point in this case. So a concept like truth can and must only find its fullest ideal expression in God.
@@Jim-Mc So the question is "How do I get to know God about a person?"
@justingary5322 The performance of apologetics is not intended to convince people who do not already accept a given dogma. The performance of apologetics is a performance for people who already believe and just want their beliefs validated.
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Hi Brandon, Thanks for another great video.
One Community Note: Your comment on a ‘universe that’s going to collapse in a heat death in the relatively near future’ needs an upgrade .
The heat death will result from the universe continuing to expand (ever more rapidly) with lower energy density driving all thermodynamic activity to zero and, by current calculations, is many (many many many) billions of years into the future.
PS. Layman’s explanation - not triggered 😊
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Many folk don't understand that it is only our own minds that are responsible for all experience.
The world has no purpose or meaning of its own, because only your own mind can give meaning and purpose to anything.
And this varies enormously, which is why there is so much conflict in the world.
Everything is only an individual INTERPRETATION .
Two men look out from the same bars.
One sees mud, the other the stars.
Those interpretations are always a reflection of our own thinking , and emotional state.
A kind , forgiving person will see a totally different world from a fearful, angry person.
Christianity has somehow ignored the centrality of the mind, yet Jesus spoke about it at length.
I would stand in line to shake the hands of experts who show intelligence in their presentation.,but I would not waste the time in appreciating words that insult my intelligence.TRUTH is simply put; not a lie.
Love the outro and all ur vids
Life comes from life!
Matter comes from matter.
“If the thoughts in my mind are just the motions of atoms in my brain, a mechanism that has arrived by unguided processes, why should I believe anything it tells me - including the fact that it is made of atoms?"
-J.B.S. Haldane
You shouldn't, especially when you don't have a way to determine if what your brain tells you doesn't correspond to reality.
And this is how science was born
You don't need to do it alone, as science can do all of that for you
Of course the question must be asked are brains derived from unguided processes? ….if your premise is wrong the conclusion will be wrong….unless of course you want a desired result then take the false premise.
All are gifts!!!I tink GOD LOOK from haven what we are doing with the gifts 🤔.Jesus is the light by which we see!
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Great video
I'm of the opinion that truth is a category. Words and phrases do not inherently contain truths so, instead, we have put those words into the categories we believe they belong: true or false.
“The testimony of Jesus Christ is the spirit of prophesy.” The nearly six thousand years of fullfilled prophesy is demonstrable.
Truth is immutable fact. Fact is true statement. True is right outcome.
Is a collective longing for a “better world” perhaps explained through darwinism? That evolution promotes individuals who promote a more ordered and fair society?
Lennox: ‘Science doesn’t even fully understand what gravity is’
As a Christian I totally agree with you....and I fo enjoy hearing who I believe to be an intellectual man in Mr Lennox try and explain the truth...but ultimately faith SAVING FAITH comes buy hearing and hearing by the WORD of GOD....GOD himself told the rich man, if they believe not the prophets, neither will they believe tho one rose from the dead.....have a good day JESUS IS KING
I study a given with a given. Well said.
Consciousness doesn't come from matter. I never thought about that. How would consciousness come from matter? How did I never think of that? 🤦♀ I feel like I never used my brain until I cracked open a bible and now I'm waking up to all these questions and thoughts. Thank you for these videos.
Matter cannot come from consciousness.
I am saying it also! Jesus is ligit and gave me more grace than i could of ever dreamed of. He walked into my room in 07 and took me to meet the FATHER,my father who is light and love that the human brain can not fathom. I LOVE ALL OF YOU AND ESPECIALLY MY ATHIEST FREINDS. I used to be one after suffering a great deal of damage from religion. Turns out Jesus didn't like religion either freinds. You can "TRUST JESUS"!🙏💓
Glad for you. But Jesus did like religion. The physical church is important in todays world, even though it has lots of problems. I could quote all the times Jesus referred to the "religion" of the Jews and how important it was by looking them up. You will run across them as you read the Bible. Just remember when Jesus said; "on this rock I will build my church".
Right off the bat, it is not in science.
It is in Silence ❤️ ✌️ Oneness
I started my journey with a daniel fast. And it was good for a bit but it does NOT take place of actual fasting. I noticed much more spiritual hunger for Jesus after actually obstaining from food
It's very hard to believe God throws great stones down from Heaven.
But that's our only rational explanation for hailstones.
So it must be true (Joshua 10:11)
You can travel to Sodom and Gomorrah, many videos of it made by Bible Expedition, and find sulfur covering the ground with human bones all over. When God sent fire down on Gomorrah, it almost certainly meant meteors which can cause the damage seen at those places
*_Materialism on morality_* portrays it as a "social construct" and thus "relative," instead of absolute. But spiritual morality is indeed absolute because we can see the results of decadence and the results of righteousness. Decadent societies eventually collapse after getting worse and worse. Righteous societies get better and better. This is a measure of *_Behavior_* (human "fruit").
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Completely oversimplified nonsense.
Something I was thinking about is how is it an athiest can make the jump from a scientific focus to being able to discuss ethics? It is a leap I cannot make in their logic.
The same way that everyone else does? I don't really understand what you're trying to say. Atheism is just a lack of belief in God. Science and ethics are irrelevant to atheism
Philosophers have been trying to explain what truth is since the beginning with their own philosophies but none have come close to Jesus Christ of Nazareth. He came and proclaimed his authority and divinity without a single moment of hesitation. His word was so powerful and touching that even after He has been gone for so long the majority of the world still bows to his authority while the others are merely considered wise men. Kingdoms and empires have risen against Him and all have failed. Yet without raising a single sword He has conquered the world. He is found in the great and holy texts of other religions. These things should be enough to consider Him more than a man. No man, in all of time, has been able to do that before and after him. Jesus Christ is God.
The Bible says that God said not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil but still to this day we dont want to let our Knowledge go .
Cant we see that Knowledge goes with Ignorance?
If anyone can tell me why i am wrong please tell me.
Knowledge includes a recognition of ignorance. Ignorance does not include a recognition of knowledge.
@PastPresented Knowledge is ignorance .A person that believes in God is so chained up to that ,that they wont even listen to another person.They will listen but in the back of their mind they will still believe .When u listen to somebody then you have to drop all your knowledge to actually listen to what someone is saying .
Can you provide evidence that we have knowledge of Good and Evil?
Consider two acts that are identical in every manner except one act is good and the other act is evil. What is the objective criteria one uses that partitions one act from the other?
@mesplin3 what do you mean can i provide evidence?? Its clear as daylight ,dont you think so?
Think about this ,when a child is born ,the child has no idea what good and evil is,right?
Then that child watches their parents,television and reads books about good and evil and so on.
As the child grows up, they think what they know about good and evil is their own but it is not .So the knowledge they have about good and evil prevents them finding out what actual Truth is .
Not the Truth according to the books or what their parents told them or what society agrees on.
I mean Actual Truth .
@@Jayys647 So the child doesn't have innate knowledge of good and evil. But you claim that good and evil is as clear as daylight. You were a child at one point. When did the distinction between good and evil become as clear as daylight?